How does LeBron James EXTENDING his career affect his legacy? 🤔 'IT HELPS IT!' - Tim Legler | Get Up
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- Опубліковано 7 тра 2024
- Mike Greenberg is joined by Brian Windhorst, Tim Legler, Alan Hahn and Monica McNutt on Get Up to react to Kendrick Perkins' assertion that he wishes Los Angeles Lakers superstar LeBron James would retire from the NBA following another title-less season.
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That title meme continues with ESPN 😂
ESPN again talking about their precious LeBron instead of the other playoff games
Cus you gonna watch and comment
espn needs to put a statue of lebron outside there headquarters
lol my guy it’s 7 am PST. Relax.
@@jasondaley718Lebron and the lakers have actually been getting fewer views than videos about Playoff games recently actually. Plus how are the other teams supposed to get views when ESPN won't market them?
One day you might understand until then keep quiet
Kareem won titles with the Lakers at 40/41 years old with Magic as the bus driver
Bron can still compete for titles as a second or third option imho
I agree with this and this is what Lebron HOPED would happen with AD but AD doesn’t create for anyone, making Lebron the primary ball handler at all times.
@@kite36This is why the Lakers need to trade for a third star
NOT Trae Young though
That era didn't have as many good teams like today's
@@Original94Yea. Youre right.. That era had MORE good teams than the current era
lol
The Lakers just need a decent coach and bench players that can actually contribute. They sold all of their losses to the Nuggets. And a lot of people don’t mention but LeBron sold himself on awful turnovers and shot selections. Yes he was a main contributor but he was handling the ball and shooting way too much. He isn’t that guy anymore where he can take on a whole team every single play. He needs to come to terms with that
Now yall know Jordan had been retired for over 3 years when he went to play for the Wizards, no need to compare that to LeBron.
Plus mj came back to the wizards he could have joined a great team to win rings but he only came back for the love of the game and to be the owner
Tbh If you watch those games MJ didn’t have it anymore. Bro averaged 20 points on a team that he had unlimited shot attempts on.
MJ did the Bo Jackson/Deion Sanders thing playing multiple pro sports
@@Maxjuliann and to sell tickets
@@Maxjuliann lmao he retired 3 times for the game he loves
Expecting a 39 year old to lead his team to a championship when all season yall said the lakers weren’t a championship team is wild.
They’ve said the lakers are a championship team every single year Lebron has been there. Stop
Really? So the 7th or 8th seed in the West for the past few years is a championship contender? They spend half the season questioning if they will even make the playoffs but they are championship contenders…
He had Anthony Davis posting Shaq-esque numbers in the playoffs. Losing like that was pathetic
@vulcanraven9701 there’s 5 players on the court, and Shaq will even tell you that you win in the playoffs because of the others. Which is why Denver won… Lebron and AD outplayed Jokic and Murray that series but Denver’s others outplayed the Lakers’ others.
@@srtghost3842 I didn’t say it, espn did lol
There’s nothing that Bron can do to be goat on my list. Too many Ls.
But I love that he’s still hoopin’ at a high level.
65 years old and still the most dangerous guy in the league when going downhill.
I’m not going to lie, that’s terrible logic. Failure is apart of success. Perfection isn’t the epitome of success. He literally leads the entire NBA in points and shot great from 3 at 40 years old.
Using the word literary and saying he is 40 while he is 39...
@@Dextermxckand by your logic Lebron is still not the Goat lol
See I don’t understand why losing doesn’t effect lebrons legacy if winning would
@Maxjuliann Losing and winning is all about the narrative. If we talked about Jordan’s losses in the playoffs and that career wise Jordan is 45-50% in playoff wins, and 100% in the finals. It’s 45-50 because Jordan got swept and bounced out the playoffs the first 3 years of his career, and then the other three years couldn’t make it past the 2nd round. We still look at him as the goat because we ignore the hiccups and losses and the fact that bro retired 2-3 times while Lebron has never stopped playing. Also he’s the oldest starting player in the NBA, he shouldn’t be in the discussion as a first option anymore but here the lakers are, having to rely on him.
Because LeBalco Blame James is always been in a win, win situation, when their team wins Lefraud would get all credit, when lose lebron media pundits would blame everybody else 😂
I dont understand why people like yourself who are Lebron haters, follow & comment on every video about him- literally helping create the very thing which you complain about
Because hes literally the oldest player in the league. If a 90 year old man scores 20 in a game its an achievement, if he scores 0 its expected. Kobe played 20 years and was complete garbage after 17 years and no one was crying on TV telling him to retire or held the fact that he was washed against him. Somehow year 21/22 lebron despite playing at a top10-15 level this year is asked to retire? Jordan was washed in year 14 and 15 yet no one mentions it and act like he never played in WAS.
@@Reaper13-hi3yo I am a lebron hater because I don’t think he’s the goat lol Exaclty what I’d expect from a lebron glazer to think . I actually have lebron as 3rd all time behind only mj and Kobe but of course a lebron Stan like you would take that as utter disrespect
You expect this man to stop playing the game he loves cause Y'ALL think his legacy will be affected??
Windy shaded Perk with that G league comment 😂
I was looking for this comment. He didn't just shade him he climbed the shade tree and pissed on Perks head
He didn't put shade on him, he used Perk as a great example of how players want to extend their career. Perk even went to the g-league in order to get back to the nba and extend his career.
Those fools advice a man who averages 26 points in regular season and playoffs to retire. Perkins was average 5 points. He didn't retire. Basketball is a team sport. You can play 100 years never win. They act like LeBron never won anything. He should play until 45 Year old.
Win 6 NBA Finals > Lose 6 NBA Finals
Legacy secured alright 😂💀
Only 6 Finals....going to 10 finals is a goat thing.
@@bipindaniel9698eh. Only if one wins most of them. Second place is not something to brag
Winning titles requires HOF-level teammates. Nearly 90% of titles won since 1980, the winning team has more future HOFers. Jordan had the most HOFers in 5 of his 6 Finals. LeBron had the most HOFers in 3 of 10 Finals. 1 generational great player cannot overcome a roster of future HOFers. Ask Jordan in the 80s vs Boston.
@@vulcanraven9701 Then Bill Russel is the Goat. He has won twice that of Jordan 😝
If this is your argument, then Bill Russell is the GOAG. He won more finals than Michael Jordan
*Penny* *Hardaway*
So I’ve been aware that Michael Cooper is entering the Hall of Fame this year and he was nominated for a really long time. It got me thinking? Why not Anfernee Deon “Penny” Hardaway? He was nominated to the HoF for the first time next to the recently deceased Walter Davis whom Michael Jordan idolized as a kid.
The reason why I believe Penny Hardaway should be in the Hall of Fame is because Tracy McGrady got in there and as a first year ballot! Penny showed class to show up to Shaq’s Orlando Magic jersey retirement. Shaq ditched Penny for LA. I like how they’re still cool while MJ and Scottie won 6 rings and can no longer be in the same events together.
Tracy McGrady
7x All-Star
2x All-NBA First Team
3x All-NBA Second Team
2x All-NBA Third Team
2x scoring champion
Most Improved Player
Penny Hardaway
4x All-Star
2x All-NBA First Team
1x All-NBA Third Team
All-Rookie First Team
I know Penny only had 4 good years starting with his rookie year until his injury in 1997. But he did make the Finals by his 2nd year. T-Mac couldn’t get out of the First Round for years. Then didn’t make it passed the Semis until he got to Houston. Made the Finals with the Spurs in 2013 as one of the last guys coming off the bench. Michael Cooper won 1 DPOY, 5 rings, but was never an all-star and averaged 8.9 PPG in his career.
Vlade Divac is in the HoF. Toni Kukoc was an all-star once and he’s in the HoF. Penny is better than them both when all were at their peak. Chris Webber is in the HoF. I believe Penny Hardaway will eventually get in there. More people will realize he deserves it and also look at his NCAA coaching contributions. Penny will have Shaq as his HoF presenter.
Is it me or did yall catch that Windy just sent a sneak diss to Perk cause he played in the G league ?? Perk definitely gonna respond to that.
Perk is an idiot.
No. Windy had said that to Perk in his face with that take before. It’s not sneaky.
No, he explained that athletes want to extend their career and used Perk as a great example as he rather played a year in the g-league if this meant he could extend his career in nba.
FOR Y'ALL LEBRON FANS WHAT SHOULD LEBRON DO RETIRE OR STAY
this like asking anyone who averaged what bron did this season to leave the nba. Why is that even part of discussion?
Play until the wheels fall off.
If any player averaged 25-7-8 they would be celebrated.
Jaylen Brown got the richest contract in NBa history for averaging the same numbers or less sheeed you tell me
Well Kendrick Perkins has never been right about anything, so LeBron should feel great about continuing.
There it is
Rookie OKC Choked
Ray Allen
Adam Silver's gift + Kyrie
Mickey Mouse bubble.
Never won a playoff series without Scottie Pippen
Threatened to stay retired without Phil Jackson & Pippen
Had the best roster in the league for every title
Was the favorite in every Finals matchup
Played 7 HOFers over 6 Finals
Was the most athletic by a country mile
Has a perfect record in the Finals where it matters most case closed
Inseason gimmick mvp
Fake stats
The list goes on😂
He really wants to play with Bronny then retire 😌👍✨
How would playing longer hurt his legacy? He’s not won a championship in 17 of his 21 year career and his numbers are similar. Wouldn’t another year of not winning just be a typical year for Lebron?
Hes still playing at a top 10 level. The fact a 39 year old still has championship expectations every year tells you that his legacy is still intact
Jordan had 6 rings and smoking a cuban cigar on a yacht at 39.
@@WesJenkins518 good for him
if you are lebron james, regular season is not the aim for you. lebron says it himself. if your main goal is playoffs and you are eliminated in the first round, it hurts your legacy. a player of lebron' caliber is always expected to be successful in playoffs. otherwise no need to be in the league.
Bron hasnt been in the finals in how long? And we're used to seeing him in the finals? The media ladies and gentlemen
LONGEVITY & STACKING STATS is his selling point now.
imagine having 43k-45k career points
Imagine following & commenting on every video you can find to hate about someone you dont like. Goofy
@@Reaper13-hi3yo imagine assuming nonsense to make a point that's irrelevant on my comment. Suck more
Lebron could have 50k but if it’s not in the process of winning, it isn’t going to help his case.
Way more impressive than winning a bunch of weak plumber titles that no one will care about 20 years from now.
Bill Russell has 11 titles. Cope with that.
No one has more points than LeBron.
ESPN in the background looking how to to tie their sinking ship to Ant Edwards
When Perk made that hot take to get clicks, I immediately said that he was embarrassing himself and doing too much. You’re not Steven A Perk. Be you and stop hating.
At least he won the glorious in season tournament. Summer league tournament and G-league championship next 😤
Some people forget Basketball is a team Sport and decide to make hot takes based on individual expectations.
Larry Bird never had a beer belly
He's 🔒 in @ #2 is beyond laughable. After he's done playing he's lucky to be considered in the top 10.
Lebron needs to come back home to Miami. Legit the only team I can see him winning a ring again with. Humbled by the Don Riley. He would be perfect and have the cast around him and bring maybe two more vets like a Klay to add depth.
FUNNY🤣😜😜 CHOKED IN 2012 ALL STAR GAME HE GIVE UP SHOT 🏀 TO ME HE HAD TWO OPINIONS SHOT🏀THREE OVER KOBE OR DRIVE PASS KOBE KOBE IS A GREAT DEFENSE PLAYER ALSO
Perk is so wrong on this.
The dude is still balling at a crazy high level.
People saying he should retire just dont want him winning anymore nor putting his records completely out of reach.
a "crazy high level" without any defense, a lot of ball handling but even more turnovers, dude is by far the highest turnover in NBA history, alltime, yet he he's not leading in assists....what's going on man?
Doesn't matter he just in the way of other ppl talent growing
@@jayzee316 What's going on is you dont have any common sense. A guy who plays for 21 seasons who has the ball in his hands as a creator for the ENTIRETY of his career because of how good he still is, will accumulate a "longevity" stat like that.
Why do longevity stats only count when they paint him negatively?
@@jayzee316Lebron had one of his lowest usage rates and time of possesions in his career this past season…so he wasn’t ball dominant at all…the NBA tracks EVERYTHING now so ppl like u can’t just push your agendas anymore🤣and by this logic does it hurt kobe for having the most misses despite being 4th in scoring🤔
@@Reaper13-hi3yo funny you focused on the turnovers and bs longevity excuse 😂 he's sloppy with the ball he's the best in that it is what it is and that is the fact that he's not playing at a high level at all whatsoever lakers been a play in team last 3 seasons he's lost to Phoenix in the first round got swept last year and gentlemen swept this year I don't want to hear about denver it's the nba majority of his points is in garbage time with his no defense and non running back self he has no impact on a game overall anymore he's gassed in the 3rd he is a true LIABILITY!! We are exhausted with that sharp double edge ⚔ of he's 39 still doing on a win but he's 39 tho when they lose which is the majority of the dam time they was a play in team allllllllll season 😂 it's a wrap
IF HE FAILS AGAIN WHO KNOWS WHAT HE DO NEXT YEAR
Jaylen Brown last season
PPG 27 7 3 - Richest contract in NBA’s history at the time
Bron 26 7 8 he should retire
Make it make sense
He should have retired years ago when he still was on top lol 😂😂😂
Espn is like " what are we going to talk about if he do retire "
When he stops chasing down the fast break and blocking from behind then it's time to go. Dude is still a specimen.
How many of those coaches have titles without LeBron James? I'll take my answer offline.
Please keep looking at that list of coaches and tell me how many Hall of Fame or top tier coaches do you see on that list? He never had a Phil Jackson, Greg Popovich or a Steve Kerr so yeah he will have a bunch of mostly sorry coaches excluding Tyron Lue and Erik Spoelstra
No perk is right because let’s say steph wins another one before lebron is lebron number 2 all time argument secured I don’t think so just my opinion especially with stephs impact on the league
At the sake that many teams are needing to make a change..lebron for klay kuminga and wiggins
Memo to all the haters, winning a championship is hard, just asking Larry legend and Wilt Chamberlain
I know y’all are gonna regurgitate Lakers content during regular season but my god there’s so much playoff content and talking points and we’re talking about stuff that is a couple months away anyway.
His head is not I the Game all the way my opinion
These analysts didnt mention the biggest reason lebron is not winning anything, "NOW HE IS IN THE POWERFUL WEST LAST 6 SEASONS"
Bro mj last season wasn't great he is considered top 1 or 2 player of all time
Agree what big Perks said
How can you be one of the best 15 players in the league, your costar was the best player in the series, and you lose 4-1
Kendrick Perkins needs to get fired for his outlandish take 😂😂😂
LeESPN just cant help themselves. Now they super embracing this meme
I miss the old nba.
Dam espn needs to change their name to the lebron sports talk.
I love LeBron but he should probably just retire. He can still do it physically, but I don’t think he connects with his younger teammates or even coaching staff because he’s so superior and knows the game more than anyone on the team. And that comes with a lot of pressure as a teammate…cause if you don’t meet his expectations..you could be out of there.
Every team that LeBron has gone to was a losing team. But LeBron brought them a championship. NOBODY else can say that. Amazing accomplishment
Why Monica ? ….what are you wearing 😂😂😂😂 worst dressed award 🥇 goes to you
It actually hurts his legacy and in my opinion makes him a questionable top 5 player of all time
Lebron is the most popular and polarizing player, but hasn't been the best player in years.Still very productive but if you watch the game and not just look at stats and highlights.He takes alot of plays off defensively and offensively he has to pick and choose spots cause he is much older and gets more tired then when he was young
So who will be the scapegoat if they don’t even make the playoffs with a new coach?🤔
LeBron to the Spurs confirmed
How can Wembanyama help LeBrons legacy?
If i was LeBron, i would go to one of the best team in the league and start pile up championships. Then they would call it weak move. Nobody never win championships without a good team.
What a bunch if jock sniffers. Cut it out. Talk about the people playing and not the guy who's eliminated. Why aren't you talking about the Greek Freak or Joel Embiid? What about KD? If youre gonna talk about a guy who isn't top 5 then do it for the others too. Call me crazy but why not talk more about the teams that are left? Crazy idea i know. Also the longer he plays the worst it gets. End of story
What Legacy ?
Bron should go to the Cavs for 3yrs n called it a career
If the NBA continues to prop up Lebron by letting the refs call the game completely differently for the Lakers and their opponents in the Lakers favor, they will do a lot of harm to the confidence in their product. People are starting to make a living breaking down the ref BS.
Its not secure because if he would have swept the nuggets, these guys would be singing from the roof tops. But he lost so we're supposed to just be like "oh hes already the best" sorry thats not how it works.
HE ALREADY HURT HIS LEGACY CHOKED YEAR AGAINST DALLAS MAVERICKS GOING TO MIAMI HEAT RECORD 4-6 NBA FINALS OVERRATED AS HELL
You just talking bro 🥱🥱
@shawnkeith2414 that’s the dumbest take I’ve ever seen. Bro has 4 rings, we’re not calling Steph curry a failure for getting 4 championships. He has more rings the majority of players who have ever played the nba. There’s literally like 20 dudes collectively with more rings than Lebron in the history of the sport which has had tens of thousands of players. Let’s talk about how your favorite team likely hasn’t won a championship either ever or in years because that’s the reality for 90% of the NBA teams.
The Dallas Team Swept the Defending Champion Kobe Lead Lakers ..
Typing in all caps doesn’t prove your point Karen
@@kite36 4 rings... Rookie OKC choked, Ray Allen, Adam Silver's gift, Mickey Mouse bubble.
Na once the media stops shoving lebrons narratives down our throats people will see him for what he really is
ESPN Lebron is no where near MJ or kobe
Perk excels only on bad takes and at making grunt noises on the mic. Perk should not be on ESPN, he is also mad like more than 80% of the time which makes even more grunt noise for the mic to capture and send it to us. Im sure he has other talent.
We shall regret when this man retires why we didnt appreciate him more
Dudes saying he should retire because he can't carry a whole team to the finals by himself anymore 🤦♂️even though no other current player can either
Nobody wants to admit this because then that’s admitting that the things Lebron was doing was abnormal. He lead a Cleveland team of nobodies twice to the finals, a good team of Cleveland players to a ring, the heat to 2 rings and the lakers to 1. If he’s on the right team he could get 1-2 more but that’s if he wants to actually ring chase the end of his career which I don’t think he will.
👑, will always be the 👑.
PUTTING DOWN A MAN BECAUSE HE IS NOT A QUITTER! SAD SOCIETY WE LIVE IN.
NOT G LEAGUE PERKKKK 😭😭
Yea jumping super teams to super teams and having all the all stars on you're team. Yea you should be proud of that legacy. What's his a legacy ring chasing yea you should be proud of that lol.
LeBron legacy is fine but if he wants to win more championships he needs leave the Lakers and go back to Cleveland for a 3rd time, I doubt it happens though. If he stays with the Lakers they need more shooting and size on the wings
“Nobody wanted Wizards Jordan”
LeBron is still hooping! Play on
It doesn’t he just put his records out of reach
😂😂😂 espn is a joke what legacy . Lebum was media made
Lebron Could have Suited up For Denver In the Playoffs and averaged 30 against the Lakers and yall would find a way to blame the Lakers and Darvin Ham 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
This dude just averaged 26 8 and 8, if he can still play the game at a high level he should be playing.. LBJ = GOATED
Anyone who averaged anything lesser should retire given their stand point
@@peterkoroma7876 he’s 40
@@_NoMakeUp and?
Lebron is a Diva period
Which legacy? Lose 16 of 18 games in 4 finals??😂😂😂😂
How will Anthony Edwards affect LeBrons legacy?
Here we go again. Y’all can talk about it in the off season. LeGM is on vacation
😂😂 telling a man what too do is crazy work when you can't do a sit up 😂😂😂
Again?!? Why is he the topic of convo in the heat of the playoffs? His team is no longer in the playoffs.
Lame lame wish to see the back of lebom so espn can mention other talented players
Stop! extending his career does not affect his legacy. Nobody was saying nun bout Tom Brady so relax! He’s gone come back and if he chooses to pair up w another star he deserves it! He’s capable of winning ! They want Lebron to quit sooo bad ! Stfu!!
Win another Championship
WestBRICK is the one who needs to retire
Dude is clearly 100 pct WASHED
lol
True. Not enough is ttalked about how embarassing and pathetic Westbricks playoff series was
Hi ESPN. Ever heard the saying "flogging a dead horse"? LeBron is the dead horse and your insistent need to cover him even though we are in the middle of a LeBron-less playoffs.. is the flogging.
Wemby x Bron 3 peat
Jordan wouldnt get more than 3 rings if he played post 2008
Cleveland Miami Cleveland lakers LeBron James statue he will 5 times champion next season
Part of his legacy is firing coaches
I agree with Perk because it will take too much to build a team around Lebron. Thats the problem. If you look at the teams right now in the playoffs; they are young teams willing to listen and they are growing together. Lebron expects you to be already done growing and then he stifles the people around him, this includes coaches. He wanted to get rid of Spokelstra and he is a hall of fame coach now. If they would have listened to Lebron he would not be. Lebron is done just wrap it up because the Lakers do not pay coaches well, they offer no support to the coach in backing him up against players like a Lebron and AD. So you will not be getting some high level coach. Player wise the young guys are staying with their teams if they can because no one wants to go to the Lakers and be Lebron's towel boy and scape goat. So thats dead. He accomplished so much just go.
How does LeBron’s legacy affect LeBron’s legacy?
are basketball fans watching this seriously. Bron gets cooked by the media for existing
1st I agree LeBron needs to retire, tired of seeing him lose so much! Or....let him be a coach, all he do is get coaches fired, let him be the coach, maybe when he lose he'll fire himself and retire!
Don't mean a thing without a ring. Lebron should just retire.