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Audi B8 (A4, A5, A4 Allroad, S4, S5) Buyer's Guide - What You Need To Know Before Buying
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- Опубліковано 25 вер 2019
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►In this video, Aaron Davis, our Audi Catalog Manager walks you through everything you should look out for when buying an Audi B8. While this video touches on the A5, S4, S5, Allroad, and Avant, the spotlight is on the B8 A4. Aaron covers everything from the history of the B8, to the engine variants, to brake options, and even goes for a pre-purchase test drive.
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I really want to thank and appreciate the hospitality of the FCP Euro crew during this shoot. It's super apperant that the truly are involved in the scene and respect all their clients! Thanks again for everything.
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So much wealth of info. I'll always listen to a man about a VAG product with an Audi/VW logo tatted on him! Thanks for an awesome video!
Glad you like the video, Andy! Aaron has definitely been around VAG for quite some time!
When I bought my B8 S4 the seller basically said to me "learn to love FCP Euro, they're gonna be your new best friend". You guys are awesome, has been my one-stop shop for parts AND know-how to DIY.
Haha thats great advice for a new owner. Thanks for the support!
Lifetime BMW driver here, been looking to buy a B8 wagon as a winter car. This video is INSANELY informative! Thanks so much!
Glad you found it informative! Thanks for watching!
The "B" series Audi has always been my favorite. From the beast of B5(S4) all the way to the B8.5. The one I didn't care for much was the B7.
Thank you for making this video for the people who need to know not only to inform themselves about a possible purchase, but as you mention, to help the current owners know/make better decisions about their repairs(Be it DIY, or specialty shops).
We're glad you found it helpful! Our goal was to try and shed some light on issues current owners may not already know about, along with educating people who may know nothing about the platform at the same time.
I've delivered there many times.. always strike up conversations with them as a vw n now an Audi a4 b9 owner.. great guys..
I have an A4 B8 (2011). Love that thing.
Awesome awesome awesome video. Every second of this was full of good info. You earned a sub 👍🏻
Thanks, Fish Man!! Really glad you liked the video and thank you for subscribing!
One thing I wish I knew when I had purchased my b8 5 years ago, is that if you're buying a premium trim model, make sure it has folding seats as an option. Folding rear seats weren't standard on the lower trim
This was helpful I have a 2010 A4 and I think I got a good deal on it. I’m concerned about the timing chain and would rather get it replaced now vs later
hanzo lo , you are much better of addressing it before it becomes an actual problem. Especially if you got a good deal on the car, might as well capitalize on your savings and make it last! Incase you havent seen this video yet ua-cam.com/video/-ncZ0Tt4AUY/v-deo.html
Do it as soon as you can unless you want the engine to grenade itself. I usually just recommend you to swap with CPMA because the CAEB engines, in general, were just designed poorly as the CPMA fixed all the issues.
timing chain ended up being fineI contacted the service department in which it was dealt with and they informed me that all maintenance was up to date and it was on the car fax. there was a gap in service history from when the auction went to the dealership. few months later rear mail seal burst and soaked my clutch :( but got it all taken care of and it drives like never before! long story short it cost exactly what it should have haha
For the A4 B8, oil consumption fix and tensioner/chain would be at the top of the list.
is that for a 2008 model ?
Absolutely agree @ 10:42; cranked up the boost on my 21 TLX A-Spec and now I'm hurting for upgraded brakes (and tires).
I'm considering a 2013 allroad premium plus. 82k miles. Was hesitant because of potential repair costs. I like to work on things myself.. This video makes me feel a bit better about the consideration. Thanks a bunch, preciate the vid!
I had a few Infiniti BMW & Mercedes-Benz but now i want a Audi im going to buy one of these this week im doing my research on these before i buy
That's awesome, Kxng! Let us know when you pick one up!
Dont forget to stock up on the engine oil and keep plenty in your trunk)
Interesting. In Finland the base trim is business trim. It has folding rear seats, LEDs/xenon's, front and rear parking sensors , Bluetooth, and heated seats standard. It does not have leather seats (cloth seats which are actually quite good), no sun roof, no automatic seat adjustments and no rear seat climate vents (that's silly). A bit different trim compared to that premium.
Thats definitely interesting comparison!
I have a 2012 A4 with the 8 speed tiptronic transmission. To my knowledge only the s4 had the 7 speed dual clutch. Also the power figures on the 2.0t seem off, but that’s just my opinion.
I own a 2013 B8.5 3.0 tdi avant quattro with a 7 speed dual clutch called S-Tronic. I think only the Facelift A4s have the option for S-Tronic.
I got a 2012 Audi A4 Avant & shit Ian disappointed at all, people really don’t admire wagons. I like them because they’re different. I’m the only one in my area with an Audi wagon actually 🤷🏽♂️.
Avants have a sweet spot in our hearts as well. A few are in our employee lot everyday! They can be some super sleek cars when done right.
My 2014 one had water pump fail I haven't had any other fault, folding seats it's an option
fantastic video. ive been looking to pick up a B8 avant and this really helped me know what to look out for when checking one out and even owning one. Thank you
Happy to help Steven! The B8 Avant has a sweet spot in our hearts, let us know what you end up with!
Great video, very informative. I always like Audi but I am scare of Turbo engines. I love the 3.0 Superchaged V6 on S4 & A6's.
Glad you liked the video, Anibal! The supercharged cars are a ton of fun!
Great video guys. I plan on picking up an 09 a4 tomorrow. Looks like it's had quite a bit of work done already. Hoping I don't have to put new piston rings in it 🤞🏼
Fingers crossed!
Video Definitely helped a ton! Right now looking at b8.5 allroads or even avant a4.
Great intro to everything B8. Especially pointing out the seriously stupid naming conventions of the packages. Premium + or Prestige are where it is at.
Glad he talked about the intermediate steering shaft issue at the end. Easy fix for that is spray it with penetrating oil and then lube with white lithium grease. You missed talking about wastegate rattle and turbo replacement though! Turbos get replaced at 80 to 100k miles on these cars due to the wastegate issue. Fcp euro for the win on lifetime warranty! :)
Some pen oil + grease is for sure an easy quick fix for that! Good call on the turbo replacement, just an excuse for a fresh upgrade right ;)
What an awesome public service for Audi A4 B8 owners!
We try our best! Thanks for the support.
Buy a B8.5. (2013 and up) It fixes most of this problems.
Really great information, and an honest review, as a tech have you ever come across any information as to why Audi runs there thermostats at 88C and results in actual car operation of 96-100C under normal city driving 94C on that highway (although the temp gauge shows a steady 90C between 88-108C).
After opening the top end of older Audis its clear that almost all rubber oring and gaskets have failed by hardening. Including the infamous timing chain tensioner failures which is really the plastic guides disintegrating. Are there any thermostat options like 75-80C? because these engines are literally cooking them selves.
I love my GTI and I sometimes think about replacing it. After watching this video and the one you guys made on the MB W204, I think I’d go with Benz.
You guys are the real deal!
Liked and subscribed!
It's amazing that this content is free. Fantastic job, thanks!
I was in the market last summer for a B8 S4, really couldn’t get a good deal. Ended up purchasing the 2014 A4 2.0T B8.5.
Yes it’s less power than the S4 but jeez it looks like the B8 generation had several issues with their faulty engine design.
A4 is still a great purchase!
Best informative FYI I've seen! Thanks guys great job!
The only "questionable" content I saw with this video, were the hp ratings for the B8 Chassis.
We went back and forth with what to trust on this one as originally we were using what looked like higher more realistic numbers, but decided to go with the official Audi documents from the dealership system itself.
8 speed CVT is a new one on me.
I have a B8.5 S5, APR stage 2 with almost 80K miles. It's been rock solid and I've spent 0 bucks on repairs so far.
That's awesome, Shuo! Audi did make a number of updates with the B8.5, so they do have fewer issues. I'd still find some wood to knock on, haha!
This is definitely the perfect video
Thank you, ALI. Glad you like the video!
Straight to the point
You miss the ultra rare 1 of 200 audi a4 b8 30 years of quattro edition in 2011. It comes with a rs4 interior and some other goodies. I am lucky enough to own one. 6 speed manual 2.0t that looks like an rs4
Looking to byt a B8 avant as they are most popular here, especially with a 2.0 tdi diesel engine, wish you talked more about the diesels, which are way more popular in other parts of the world, but great otherwise
Awesome video. A must see for the potential B8 buyers. I recommend not to buy an Audi at all. They break to often and they will eventually turn into a nightmare. My B8 was a real money pit.
Greetings from Germany
Thanks for watching, Albert!
Is there eny engine that you can reccomend or everyone ist schrot?
@@angelnikolov7479 2.0 tdi should be rather ok...the say. Gasoline engines have a big issue with oil consumption
Tdi here with 156.000 km sweet and diesel power
I came for Avant, didn't get it. But good video.
Helped so much wit my a4 B8
Nice video. Would you do something similar for the TDI engines? Interested in the 3.0 TDI quattro.
Great video. Very comprehensive. Thanks!
Thanks, Basil! Glad you like the video!
Hey guys... really great video, thanks so much. Super informative. Im not really familiar with Audi, but Im looking at an A4 Allroad. Is there a specific year that you would recommend for reliability? I don't need bells and whistles (tech packages etc). is the 2016 (last year of the B8.5) a solid dependable year where they worked out any bugs from previous years, that won't be in a mechanics shop all the time? Ive heard also there is issues with the CVT transmission. is it true the A4 is the only version where the engine doesn't need to be pulled out for the timing chain? Again, I don't care about getting into refreshed version in 2017 because I have a feeling that would have too much tech. Im really concerned with the drive train reliability. would you recommend getting a warranty (I received a quote from Audi for a 4yr, 50K km warranty for almost 6K CAD). Any help or advice you could offer would be huge. Thanks again.
Great content 😊 did i miss the info about the 1.8 tfsi?
This was a good informative video. Thanks
You're welcome! Glad you found it informative!
Great video. Lots to absorb. Thanks.
What a great video. Thanks guys!
Are the timing chain and Water pump still an issue in the 8.5?
I have a 2009 B8 Avant 2.0T quattro automatic and it is a 6-speed auto.
Just subbed i liked that vid keep it upppp
I was waiting for A5
I just had the carbon cleaning done and replace my injectors I have 2013 A4 manual
When I got the car back after a drive turn off car if I turn the car back on within 5min or so it struggles to turn on but eventually does
What can be causing this issue? I didn’t have it before only after the cleaning and new injectors
I thought the B8s came with a ZF8, not a 7 speed automatic?
I had One a4 b8 2.0 , too many problems for a so expensive car...now i have a honda civic 1.5 which has top reliability.....
Feel sorry for US buyers, in Europe we have higher octane and got the 211 and 225hp 2.0tfsi engine models. And if you got the Black Edition you got the 7speed DSG DL501 out of the S4.
Yeah us U.S. buyers rarely get the good stuff from Europe 😭
We appreciate the sympathy!
I’m from México and I have a 2013 A4 B8.5 and this video is great 👍🏼 all the things you said are true. The control arms are totally a piece of sh#%%* I would like to replace them for a better ones but in Mexico it’s pretty difficult to find a good quality in replacements parts.
I noticed you didn’t mention transmission failure. Some forums have said that mechatronic failure on the B8 is common. I have 2009 1.8T A4 that suffered that and unfortunately we don’t have a local Audi dealership. What in your opinion is the best solution? Replacing the gearbox? Are gearboxes plug and play or requiring some coding?
My 09 a4 tip tronic is doing fine going into 100k miles
Your guide very cool man. I bought A4B8 1.8T 2009 and my garage they told the code P017100 system to lean it effected by sometime i can smell the petrol into the passenger room. So the garage apply to change oil catch tank and charcoal canister but now it still there few time i can smell petrol in passenger room. Please kindly advise to fix this problem. Thanks in advance for your kindly advise buddy.
Those rotors on the black s4 are sick! Are those from an s5?
Why would you want the yellow top breather over the black, what is the difference?
I'm curious how an engine mount can be controlled by the computer?
Great video, thanks!
Any advice for someone looking for a 2013+ B8.5 A4 Quattro (possibly 2012/2013 S4 as well) or B8 S5 09+ up to 99k miles on it? What are some things I should look for if the car is in 60-99k mile range?
Also if I get an inspection will they be able to tell me how soon I would need to get the timing belt/chain replaced?
I don't think you can completely fix the oil consumption on the 2008 model, so it's 1L per 1k km at least
also audi have some vibration going on because on quattro and that's normal too
What is the part number for the upgraded water pump? I have a 2009 A4 B8 2.0T Automatic. Do you also have a big break kit for this model?
Man dedicated his life for audi and VW. Even the founder doesn't
Where's the love for the diesels?
This vid was shot in the states. Unfortunately we never got the diesels for the B8 here
Here.DIESEL POWER
The seats fold down in every trim of the B8, except the base model "premium".
Great review
Thanks! Glad you liked the video!
Man this and that $5000 sensor fix issue makes me just want to go with a B8.5
I own a 2010 A4 B8 with rear folding seats premium package is this common on this year? or the 8.5 premium is the only one that doesnt fold seats
your transmission info seems off as they have an 8 speed transmission automatic with gears not cvt on quattro model
he said CVT on FWD only.
Fantastic video - are a lot of these issues improved upon or solved in the B8.5?
Glad you enjoyed the video! Some of the key things that did/didnt change from B8 to B8.5 are...Oil Consumption issues were addressed on B8.5 (they went with a tighter clearance on the cylinders, and upgraded to thicker rods my 2mm), but the waterpump and tstat still leak, and the control arms still get torn bushings. Most of the updates were based on the actual facelift/aesthetics of the car.
FCP Euro thanks for clarifying, disappointing they kept the plastic water pump in the 8.5. Thought that was just a serious design flaw that could be easily remedied with a higher quality part.
Thank you for this! I drive a B8 S5 special edition. I'm looking to upgrade my MMI, I have 3Gx but with the older screen. How much should it cost to upgrade?
Hi FCP, could you please help...
I'd really like to know whether to buy for best upgrade potential the A4 (1) 3.0 T (2) 3.0 TDI or (3) S4
Hi Zay, for the best upgrade potential we would recommend you buy the S4. The A4 uses a 2.0T engine which is mildly upgradable, but the S4 has a ton more potential. The diesel on the other hand is also mildly upgradable but has less potential than both the TDI and the A4 2.0T.
Lovely cars bar the oil consumption issue Audi tried covering up
Great video. How do I update the ECM software level? This is a requirement to update the PCV or breather with yellow top mentioned in the video in order to reduce the oil consumption.
B8 Quattro have ZF6s and B8.5 Quattro have ZF8s
2011+ have zf8, only 09-10 had zf6
Do the Audi s5s have armatic suspension or adaptive suspension? I'm not sure if it's the same thing but I do know that airmatics suspension is unreliable correct?
Very informative video. I am planning to buy b8.5. Any major issues i need to look for under 80k miles?
A user here for a b8/b8.5 avant caga code motor tdi s tronic. Plugs each 30.000km/60.000km oil 10-15.000km/. Dmf flywheel 130.000km / belt kit 120.000 +-. Fabricant recomended Castrol Long Life but I highly recomend Ravenol/RedLine/Extreme/Meguin or Amsoil Signature Series. Put some adtivie to the oil for example liqui moly molygen motor protect 250 ml or Mannol 9929. To the tank of diesel or gasoline i recomend too. Clean EGR and the Dpf if it has each 100.000 km. And if u want to know more im here. The car is incredibly good. Confortable and secure👌👍
@@YeiDCalle thanks a lot mate. Much appreciated.
@@arslanashraf9618 👌
What would be the best car for a first car out of all of these?
I had a B7 and loved the style and handling. BUT the reliability was poor. Several recalls. Several electrical issues. And turbo issues--my turbo gave up the ghost at 50K miles. Fun car, but cost of ownership for me was not acceptable.
They're great till they're not.
Shame you don't go over the diesels... ahhh the us market :( And considering 25 mpg to be easy on the gas .... #justusathings
Hey guys what’s up, I’m looking forward to buy a A4 2015, the sport Quattro version with about 52000 km, I would be very thankful if you guys tell me how reliable is this car and what this I should be aware before a buy this car. (I’m not sure if is a B8 or B8.5) I’m from Mexico and this model was maid for Mexico. Thanks a lot.
Excellent video. PLEASE PLEASE MAKE ONE ON VW CC VR6(VeryRare6) is what I have named me 2013 Fontana Red executive. And the 2.0T, had the 2011 black luxury also.
I have a 2012 Audi A4 Avant (the one you guys didn't show in the picture) and I did not hear you guys mention the 8 speed torque converter automatic variant for the Quattro(NOT the 8 speed CVT FWD). also the numbers from multiple tuning and wiki style sites don't correspond with your hp figures for the newer motors but it might be a regional thing?
So is there no such thing as a 8speed dsg ? I have a 2012 a4 s line Quattro
rly good Video! Im from Germany and drive a b8.5 3.0TDI. sadly u dont have one in ur video.
Can you tell me is it reliable this engine and is it still good option to buy in 2021 ?
@@angelnikolov7479 sry but i have to say that im not a technical guy! and i think my english is not that good to explain Details i may have heard about. Maybe u should go for a Facebook group. U can find many Drivers there wich share their knowledge.
Important for me was the Power and the quattro. And by now i have nothing bad to say about that. :)
kan i ikke lave en video om Volvo 2,9 t6, fuld service og hvad jeg skal være opmærksom på i købet af dette bil år 1998 til 2004.
Please same video on A6 4G!
Please specify you mention in the video only TFSI not TDI . If you mention audi A4 B8 , mention both TDI and TFSI . Not only one.
Milwaukee tools for the win!
Looking into the v6 3.0tsfi btw
2013 Audi A4 2.0T a good option?
Electric steering rack is great, until it fails completely at 68,000Km as mine did.
Best piece of advice regarding b8 chassis audi purchase - don't buy it. Unless burning oil and rebuilding the engine is your thing.
Some people are into that sorta thing 😁
@@fcpeuro yep, especially if you did know until after 1,000 miles after purchase that some oil has been burned off. In my search for a good b8 a4 with 6mt, I have concluded that they don't exist, all I ever could find were clapped out and pricey. Imo, if you need a sport sedan of that vintage with manual, don't even look at Audis
Does the 2.0t 225hp engine has oil consumption problem ?
I love drivin dad's a4 when i got to change oil and shits
dose the v6 and v8 have timing chain strech?