Andrew (Andrés in Spanish) It is imposible to explain it better. All the rational on behind starts with WHAT YOU WANT TO DO instead of HOW you want to do. It is totally different to drive to “travel to a remote place and film it or do pictures” than to “drive a huge American truck plenty of electronics, not tropicalized and with immense potential failures. This is not a joke for all adventures (either 4x4 or bikes); first you should define WHAT and after you should adapt the HOW. You are teaching the first lesson of all adventurers. Thank you very much Professor.
Well said Andrew! When i bought my 79 dual cab people would say the same thing. Oh they're overpriced, oh i can't justify spending that much money on a farm truck etc. Those people just don't get it. They never will. They can't justify the price tag because they can't see where the money went. It's all underneath. The engineering. No independent suspension, no rack and pinion steering which breaks all the time in rough off road situations, no sealed bearings which are easy to re-pack and replace on the side of the road, hardly any electronics and decades of proven use in the world's harshest conditions. You're paying for that R&D, that time, that simplicity and reliability. That camper you chose is absolutely awesome, and the rear axle relocation is a great modification for your setup. It will drive beautifully on outback tracks. And remember, the longer the wheelbase, the more comfortable the ride. I'm really looking forward to seeing it in action on your first trip away! Keep it up mate!
It's the badge you're paying for, it can't be the vehicle. If it's simple and remained pretty much unchanged for decades how can it command such a price. People say "you're paying for the Toyota reliability" and I don't dispute that at all. But when does reliability kick in? At what age do you/can you say that reliability begins? I'd say reliability would begin at around 7 years after something was first used or after 200,000kms. If you don't keep the vehicle up to & after that point, then you may be paying for something you won't use, the reliability. Not trying to create tension or argue, just raising a thought.
@@tengallonz I agree with you. Take the td42 GU patrol or 105 series cruiser as an example. They've had the better part of 20+ years of private R&D behind them and we know they work and how tough they are. We know all the short fallings of 79 series and that's just straight from factory not to mention the other issues popping up now (on top of the 70k+ price tag). The older 105s, 80s and patrols are built to last and if you even spent half of what you spent on a 79 on those you've got the most rock solid and simplistic rig going around exactly what a 4wd should be.
@@tengallonz you're not taking into account material costs today compared to 20 to 30 years ago. Forget the engineering for a moment. How much would an 80 series or gq patrol cost brand new today built exactly the same? A lot of people don't realise how much cost cutting manufacturers take to build new vehicles. Less metal, cheaper design etc. This goes for anything you buy not just cars. The only thing that's changed on the 79 series is the engine and slightly thinner panels to meet ANCAP safety requirements. Everything else is exactly the same. Imagine how much a 40 series would cost brand new built like it was back in the day? 70 grand is not a lot of money today, it's just people are used to buying cheaper cars that last half as long. I see the failures in the workshop every day on cheaper 4 wheel drives that people consider comfortable, fuel efficient etc. In reality they're shitheaps. The shortcomings of the 70 series people talk about are actually its strengths. Narrower rear axle purposely left like that for strength in heavy loading in mining use. When I worked in the mines the patrols would rust quickly from the coal dust. Things like metal quality that no one talks about. Not to mention the 70 series was used as a military vehicle. Troop carrier. Haven't seen any patrols or 80's used in the military. I wonder why??
Andrew bare with me on this but you are now looking at having the camper stand alone in relation to power. So what about engineering one of the rear doors into a gull wing or perhaps suicide door and by reducing the battery bank in the back seat you could put a fridge/ freezer in the back seat. Advantages- all the weight is well forward of the rear axle, the fridge will stay cooler due to the cab air conditioning, no need for a slide as it will be lower to the ground and the fridge is also part of the ute when the camper is off for day trips. Depending on the the fridge size you may not even need to change the doors but that’s a matter of choice on your part.
Simply brilliant Andrew... love watching and listening to every second of your videos. Maybe in my next life I'll be able to do the type of conversions that you are into and travel the world. I am 67 years old from Nepal and what you are doing now is my dream. I currently own a Nissan x trail t30 2004 model and do a lot of travelling within the country with my wife. All the very best and can't wait to see you in your new build out there in the bush.
Very nice! That's what makes personal builds amazing...it's all about YOUR preference. And why do it...because you can! Can't wait to see the full build and the maiden trip. Cheers.
I'm a simple minimalist guy, not usually into over the top, but I'm fascinated by this build. So many ideas on ovffer here that can be adaptable to any kind of build. My mind is going already!!
It surprises me that anyone tries to question what you do. Especially inexperienced people like myself. But I really appreciate the time you take to explain everything in depth.
I have also taken out the back seats from my 79 double cab and installing the electrical set up in the cab. I already have the electrical set up in the canopy with roof top tent but I feel for a short trip putting the canopy on and taking it off takes a lot of time. This way fridge fits in the cab and I don’t need to worry about all the extra lights and fridge working of the main battery while canopy is off. And if need to be the fridge can also be mounted on the tray.
I have watched all your videos and many of them several times over. There would never be a question from me of "why did you do this and not that? ( If I did it would only be to truly understand and most likely learn something." Your content is about you and your choices based on your needs. To me you are all about "why I did this" and that's how many of us are learning and why we are addicted to your content .(I am anyway) The very first video I saw I was hooked. If you think about that you gotta think why. Well, for me it's the detailed explaining of why, drawn from an abundant amount of experience. And yes, I love Land Cruisers, especially the ones we can't get in the States. Just wanna say, I greatly appreciate what you are doing along with all the time and effort you put into putting out good stuff. Good luck with the frig.
Andrew you can never go wrong with a land cruiser I my self have 25 years of experience with toyota in EAST AFRICA TANZANIA and we have some of the harsh condition in the world. I really like your builds cause u remain practical and affordable all the best to your new project.
I get the fridge issue as i had similar with trailers and so on. In the end I tossed the back seat and integrated the fridge as part of the setup. Its on a slide and at the right height plus if I drop the trailer or just take a swag and leave the trailer the fridge goes with me. This also means the fridge is protected.
Absolutely, you do what suits you. I consider your choices with you double cab build very interesting and inspired. l have a single cab 79 with a full popup roof Camper, I would have considered a chassis stretched double cab if I thought of it.
Hi Andrew - i have been watching your programs since i was a young boy , used to video tape the shows (back in the day) and play it back ,listening to the amount of info you display in a recording. Over 30 years old now and still a fan . You do know your stuff , and some might disagree with your choices. And that is Fine ! Guys enjoy the hard work he puts in to this . Just my 2C . Durban - RSA
Horses for Courses. Build what suits your lifestyle and what you want. I think I was sold on the Tommy Camper when I saw you stand up in the back and showed how light and airy the bedroom was. What a wonderful place to wake up. You can also get dressed inside easily because you can stand up. Two people could sit and eat inside when it is raining. Loving the build.
I love that you are solving these problems as you go. It’s a win, win for both manufacturer and adventurer. I live your passion and enthusiasm. Think big, dream big I say. Keep it up 👍🏻
I'm pretty sure Andrew speaks Afrikaans so maybe you didn't have to translate 'voortschrijdend inzicht' '-) About the second spare tyre: if you put just the tyre inside you can fill it up with, for example, recovery gear or towels etc. That way it hardly takes up any space at all!
Not many "UA-camrs" are as honest as Andrew. Such concise points in response to the commentators who don't understand the build. I must say that I'm surprised that there are so many people out there who just don't get it. In terms of drop down fridge slides, I too have considered acquiring one over the years but the weight has always put me off and will continue to do so, it's just not acceptable to take 40kg out of my vehicles GVM for a fridge slide.
Great clip Andrew, well explained, watched heaps of your clips and learn something new every time, even after spending 45 plus years in 4wd's and in the bush, Great job.
WOW i love this camper you can stand up inside the tent area and all the other stuff it just works like you said Andrew blank canvas and set it up as you want it
You dont have to explain yourself to haters that cant afford this level of build. I personally see your videos as a way to see whats possible, not what I can afford and then judge you for choosing things that are too expensive for me. Thank you for opening up the possibilities.
I am so glad I'm not the only ones whose mind goes absolutely crazy about a vehicle build. And I am so glad you are also on the weight train. As overlanding in a Suzuki Jimny, weight becomes everything and manufactures donot push the limits here. From fridges, to draws, canopies etc. They can all be be better engineered with modern technology to be lighter and more complex without comprising strength
Well said... To be honest I thought you already clarified these questions in other previous videos. Glad to see the build going so splendidly. No doubt there will be things changing here and there. It's to be expected. As you said.. You're experimenting.
Good on you Andrew. Why not, and you give those that can, something to aspire to. And for those that are like me who cannot get out there due to health reasons, you give us real enjoyment and we are with you virtually all the way. So congratulations and keep doing what you are doing. Cheers Peter.
You are an artist, your work is excellent! You have many years experience, people's comments are important but not decision makers. Keyboard warriors will always be that, keyboard warriors. Keep up the excellent work!
I resonate with "It's okay to change your mind" I have had a bit mental change on my build recently, and it was something that I was prepared to overlook until the problem was literally prepared to punch me in the face. Because I felt so pressured to stick with my initial intention out of fear of changing, however since I have made that decision it has been one of the most liberating things I have done! Andrew, at the end of the day if you went through this entire build, and you decided it didnt work, or that it is fantastic. We would still be here to watch you learn and figure it out. Even someone with as much experience as you and who has built as many vehicles as you, still learns daily. Its a beautiful thing. Someone like me just coming into the industry who has learnt everything he knows from people like you, Ronny, Expedition Overland, etc can rest assure that in the next 30 years we will also continue to learn new things everyday, having the mental flexibility to embrace change and new ideas, is what keeps it all exciting! Either way, I am very excited to see your vision come to reality.
Andrew I totally get what you have said and your thanking behind it, as it stands with me I've done roof tents, my children love it still but me and my wife struggle to climb up and down so a few years ago I started building Australian style camping trailers which worked very well, but like you you evolve and now I've started building an off road teardrop so we have no set up time for us, as for the future a de-mountable camper like yours will be the way I'm just not there yet, keep up the excellent work and on a foot note really enjoyed talking to you at the German overland show 👍
The way I would solve the fridge problem is to use a good useful foldable single step ladder to access the fridge. no drop-down needed and a small single step ladder is useful for other things too. ( lightweight and handy) Plus it's a form of exercise every time you grab a coke from the fridge, yay.
Have you considered a drawer fridge? Engel do a 30 litre with the ability to mount the compressor separately. You could have two 30 litre drawer fridges mounted like a filing cabinet.
If I understood you correctly, regarding the fridge freezer needing doors along the length of the fridge, ARB makes a dual zone 70L that IS a top loader with the doors hinged along the length. Hope that helps
G'day Andrew There's a company out of Victoria by the name of Off Road Downunder that manufacturer Australian made 4wd accessories. They happen to do a few fridge slides and they do offer an Alloy 60lt fridge slide, that may be of interest to you. Love the build mate, such insight and experience that you've to offer.
With regards to the spare wheel location. Those large ali uprights on the front of the tray seem to take up huge amount of space for what purpose? Can you remove or rework the bars to accommodate the spare wheel there without having to slide the tomycamper backwards? That 'wasted' area between the back of the cab and the front of the Tomycamper is weight and balance gold! and at the moment those bars are just using it up!.
The RAM truck base suggestion can only come from those not familiar with your work. The axle move on the 79 was critical for all the reasons you state and well executed. @14:40 - the explanation of the concept of space, and its use. Excellent perspective and one worth having in the discernment bag. What are you thoughts on a 24v cabin system? Separate from the factory crank system, which is a 2-battery (dual) 12v. All accessories apart from the crank system run on 24V. Reason being that at 24V, you need half the current to accomplish the same work as 12V at double the current. That means the cost of the entire electrical build can be less due to working with less current - smaller wires, smaller fuses, smaller chance of catastrophic loss in the event of a failure. Current cannot be 'conjured' like voltage can. So efficient use of it is key, and 24v seems to use less of it than 12v does, imo. Would appreciate any insight you can share. Thank you. Love your channel! God bless.
Your presentation is so good you have me responding to the screen like a mad man. I've said several times "I didn't even think of that." My wife said who are you face timing, Love?". Oh no one I responded. There was a silence . As if she was contemplating long term care insurance for mental incompetence. Then I said it's a 4xoverland. She responded with I understand now. Knowing a bit about overlanding but more about your presentation you saved me from a rubber room in my golden years.... Thank you Sir.
Did you think about putting the spare wheel behind one of the seats inside the cabin? Maybe standing in the back seat foot room or lying flat on the wooden surface you put in. 4:16. Maybe with a table plate on top for workspace. It would mean one side without a drawer there.
Andrew gets it. He understands what's important. I respect his passion, his experience and his logic. Great choice, great videos, great advice for all of us.
Really appreciate your content Andrew - and your honest and thoughtful opinions. Thought I would just chime in, as you mentioned the issue with track width, I've got an F250 which has traveled through a fair bit of Australia off road, and I've (touch wood) yet to have a puncture with it, despite doing the Madagan Line, quite a bit of Central Aus and Fraser island on worn out 20" All Terrains. You do have to close your eyes a bit to your paint work though with the extra width, but with the power (mine is a recent model and I've made some improvements to the engine power) and the good Automatic transmission, its a joy in sand, climbing the steepest part of Big Red with ease on its first attempt on a day where 9 vehicles in front of me (various Land Cruisers from a 200 to 79's to 80's and a 105, a Patrol wagon and Ute, and a couple of smaller dual cabs) all failed it. I also find that fuel economy I get is similar to friends that have Land Cruisers, unless you are regularly using all that power that is available (my Simpson desert figures made me blush). That said if you aren't familiar with a vehicle like this, I'm not sure I'd recommend them in Aus, if you factor in the modifications required to a Landcruiser the cost IMO isn't that much of an issue, and you have a much nicer platform (much stouter drivetrain, transmission and engine) that is quiet, comfortable and bloody luxurious. They also hold their value as well as a Landcruiser. I've owned a couple of F250's so I'm familiar with most of the idiosyncrasies, how to easily source parts when needed, and for what I am not comfortable to work on, I've got probably the best F250 mechanic in Aus about 15mins drive from my house... but the problem being is that none of them are built originally with the build quality of a Landcruiser (not talking about the major drivetrain components, I'd actually take the Cummins, Duramax or 6.7 Powerstroke over the 1VD for longevity, its the little things like sensors, switches etc.), and if there is an issue with it, the ability to pull into the closest town in Australia, or even a cattle station with a problem and for them not to look googly eyed at you is a massive plus. As much as I do love my F-Truck, as the more adventurous parts of Australia have begun to hold more appeal to me - I think my next vehicle will probably be a Landcruiser.
Great explanation Andrew, we all have different needs and budgets and all want something different out of our vehicles so its great to get an explanation behind your thought process, also well done on being honest about who has provided gear for no cost, so many in your position don't and there integrity suffers because of it. Really keen to see if you come up with a solution for the fridge.
Oh boy your videos have come a long way since you launched the channel. I watch every single one now. Even though a lot of the products you discuss are not available in Canada I still really enjoy your perspective. Keep up the good work!
lots of people forget, common brands can be serviced in many places and many country towns. Many of the USA trucks don't have the dealer and parts support by comparison
I really love your builds and ideas... You are always looking for better!... What about putting the spare tyre behind passenger/driver seat? Though the smell might annoy you and not preferable location... Otherwise the location you picked I believe is ideal and a cover/bag would eliminate any unwanted dirt.
Bravo - it’s your build to your desires and requirements!! U failed to mention - for overseas viewers - Toyota is the main commercial vehicle/brand used by commercial mining companies in Australia. In many remote areas u can get Toyota service, & spares. To have a vehicle towed is $6 to $12,000 - so a big US vehicle is not really a sensible option
Why not put the freezer in the car where the back seats used to be? You could also use it when the camper is off. Or do you also want to acces it from inside the camper?
Another Option for Electrical - Inergy just released TODAY it's FLEX DC POWER STATION... Hopefully this will help simplify certain parts of my Overland build. Anyway another great video Andrew!
Good answers to all the questions and a nice build. I am waiting to see what you do with the fridge as many have tried but there are compromises with everything. The easiest would be the front opening - could you make it work if you had slide out containers within the front opening fridge? Then you are only moving the contents and not the fridge.
For me, best aspect of your videos is the thought process - working out the details of your ideas. Life is a journey - does not mean you have to use the same ‘vehicle’ the whole way. If I camped the same way and same gear I used 30+ years ago, I would be miserable. Probably would have chucked the idea of going camping 25+ years ago. So, well done Andrew! Get the vehicle right, for you, so you can focus on your journey!
I put my ARB Elements fridge in my rear seat area (seats deleted), and diverted the warm air from the compressor exhaust into the lithium battery box to never have to deal with freezing temps. 2-for-1.
4xoverland Honestly a fantastic fridge, however to be truthful I know you are being weight conscious and due to the fridge being built to withstand being outdoors 24/7, it’s built a tad heavy at 70lbs. If I was watching weight, I’d choose another.
Are freezing temperatures really a problem in the outback? I only ask as I don't know, I live in the Pennines of Yorkshire (where freezing temperatures ARE a problem, but not as much as they used to be).
@@AnthonyIlstonJones the desert areas in mid winter can be just below zero at night, but southern states ie alpine and high country are ski fields in winter
Love your videos As for the spare wheel and fridge, my measurements show that (based on my Hilux D4D): - Remove the back seat for long trips needing 2 spare wheels - Place the spare behind the driver's seat, lifting your camera goodies space by 380mm or so. - Place the fridge on the left, 90 degrees to the back door. No slider needed
Adrew, this camper is a superb choice. Considering how important a tire is I would keep a full spare-wheel inside protected from UV and dirt. Waiting to see the build now
Thanks Andrew, I viewed your 76 series video and immediately liked and subscribed. 4wd accessories are quite pricey here in PNG, but its worth saving some extra Kina to upgrade a wonderful truck....can"t wait to see your next video.
Good onya’ Andrew, going well mate. Looking forward to seeing the Ute on a trip. Thanks for talking about the bits and pieces of the build in detail. 👍
Good on you Andrew, been following your adventures for many years with much respect. Horses for courses I'd say, the one perfect camper set up to suit everybody is in fantasy land. Anyhow the better your setup is the more time you'll have to sit around the camp fire thinking hmm wouldn't be nice to have a .... Soon you'll be planning the next build, Maybe the new Landy Defender will feature?
Nothing is impossible. I don't want to purchase a ready made roof top tent for my 2004 4JX1 3.0 Diesel Isuzu Trooper because it wouldn't "comfortably" suit my family and I and above all, prices on the market are sky high. So, started thinking, drawing and found the best way - economic way - to build a DIY comfortable and easy to mount and use 4 persons roof top tent. It's a new 1 month old project and about to see light soon, as soon as I get everything I need. I will film and take lots of pictures and once finished and ready, will post on UA-cam. The Trooper project was intended for a Morocco road trip from London right to the border of Mauritania, crossing France and Spain. But Morocco decided to leave it's border shut down due to Coronavirus crisis until the end of September. So have plenty of time now to work on my Trooper and get things right and this channel is a gold mine, playing the main role in getting my project on its wheels.
Try and ARB fridge they build them the way you need them to open Andrew. You may like to look at them. They even have the elements fridge which is up around the 70L you're looking for.
Enjoying the build videos thank you. Although your build is out of my budget, the ideas I pick up here have value and can be scaled to suit my vehicle, a hilux. Your weight saving ideas are of particular importance to me. BTW, I bought a second (stock size) spare for a desert trip I did last year and was shocked at how heavy it was! Keep up the great work.
Hello Andrew This is just my personal opinion your choices are brilliant, the times I have watched your vehicle builds and every one has been built to your specs which is the only way I think you should build a overland vehicle, as the build has got to be done for the person that is using it, not the person who thinks well I would have done this way. I own a land rover discovery 2 TD5, and just about finished building it for trips around the UK and Europe, it has been eighteen months in the build starting from ground up but I would have purchased a Toyota 79 series if I could have done here in the UK. Any way Andrew and family stay safe and as always enjoy your build and over landing trips
I see a lot of negative comments about the Ram. For my needs it's been a great fit. Plenty of power to tow my tractor, plenty of room for the dog and refrigerator, comfortable enough to drive all day and with a cap or canopy a ton of room for gear and a place to sleep. That being said imo Andrew made the right vehicle choice for his needs. The Ram is very large and heavy, not a good fit for tight trails, sand and in theory not as bullet proof as a 79 series.
Andrew I can't wait for you to set sail in the 79 I tell us about your experience. Funny you mention a RAM truck, I would trade you one for a 70 series any day.
Hatuey McFarland Funny how he mentioned “ Dodge” pretty funny since they haven’t made RAM trucks for over a decade. Old mate needs to get his facts straight.
I’m glad you’re sharing the details and frustrations! I too am trying to solve the fridge and slider space / weight issues in my 105 and 200 series builds. Currently the best compromise is to downsize to a 40l Evakool drawer fridge.... if only they made bigger versions! I’m very interested to see what you come up with.
Is a slider really necessary though? It's more weight & something else to go wrong. A simple step and a slightly larger fridge would be lighter and cheaper. People seem to want things SO convenient when it isn't necessarily the best option. Just my thoughts on the subject.
Anthony Jones I appreciate you being a devils advocate? It would have to be a folding step mounted to the rear bar in my case as many of the better/wilder camping locations don’t have level ground at the rear to allow for a nice portable step. Having said that, my goal is to try and eliminate people having to climb anything if they don’t have to haha. I’ve used the rear bar as a step for years now.....I do like the idea of a folding step though.. I’ll need to research how much drop they provide to see if there is a benefit.. thank you for the comment
Anthony Jones I appreciate you being a devils advocate. It would have to be a folding step mounted to the rear bar in my case as many of the better/wilder camping locations don’t have level ground at the rear to allow for a nice portable step. Having said that, my goal is to try and eliminate people having to climb anything if they don’t have to haha. I’ve used the rear bar as a step for years now.....I do like the idea of a folding step though.. I’ll need to research how much drop they provide to see if there is a benefit.. thank you for the comment
Those that think this is over the top need to go look at the likes of Patriot vehicle builds and adjust your parameters. ASPW builds are very reasoned.
Peter Phillips patriot builds are shit mate, all for show! Trays are light duty and canopy’s are a complete waste of space. There are so many more people out there marking proper equipment that is more suited for the applications
Patriot is almost typical for the American market. Where an "overland" trip is 100kms from home. Rigs kitted with everything AND 2 kitchen sinks. Their camper trailers are awesome but essentially all their products are for cheque book tourers
Andrew, I love the way you explain and detail everything. What about putting the 2nd spare under the truck, between the chasis rails? Its where all utes have them from factory, at least the ones that come to South America. Hope you can find a clever solution for this. Best wishes and regards from Uruguay.
Totally agree mate. Why the hell not indeed. I personally also can't afford that type of build, however it does give me fantastic ideas for what is possible. We all need a goal in life, something to strive for.
Hi ASPW. Re the 2d spare tire. Instead of hanging it off the back, why not put it side by side with the 1st spare in the space between the roll bar and the tommy camper. By my rudimentary calculation the widths of both will fit in the space. Thanks for your work.
Andrew, Love your films... The David Attenborough of the 4wding world !! After watching yourself, Ronny Dahl & Patriot Campers, I have purchased a 105 Landcruiser to do some camping with my family... Am so excited to learn, equip, modify and get out into the outback.... So a big thank you 😊
Bonjour Mr St Pierre White. I have been watching more of youtube videos since the virus forced many of us to stay home and work from home as well. I must say that your production is one of the best I have seeing and enjoy all of them. Your videos are very educational. It is unfortunate that north American population are not being offered the same trucks made available else where. I would of being curious trying out the some of the Toyota land cruiser in the bush where I live, in Canada. I personally drive a 2500 diesel ram truck, which has tones of power and some comfort. It would be a treat to watch you create an overland ram truck, like the 2500 diesel. Thank you very much for your production of videos and the sharing of knowledge.
So Andrew just some thoughts and prob you have already thought of these too. But 1st whenI saw your model LR and colors that you took into the wrap shop I was dubious on that if honest, but when you drove it outside, gotta say it came out great and importantly it’s different to anyone else out there I have seen in Aussie, so congrats will be good to see the finished truck landscaped out in its natural habitat for a LC then Im sure it will really pop. Couple questions a few others have raised the headboard, why retain a round hoop, looks at-least 60m. headboard, could have gained some more inches to the cab and less weight alah Patriots design or similar without hitting the cab or does this remove when camper is on the tray? Big one is the second tire, in my experience when speccing a build or even buying a vehicle I use the 90/10 rule, specc build for the 90% I need to use to for not the 10% which is where some go wrong, everything is always a compromise go to big you lose access to many off road locations weight width sheer size etc etc, my point is you have a double cab, it’s for Aussie conditions, won’t get an argument from me about that choice, bigger brings bigger problems not solutions, I got that early on, what works in Africa or US dosen’t often work in Aus or NZ especially. 1st q.. How many passengers and how often are you going to have more than you and or your wife, eg a 3rd per or 4th person, and even if you did have, we all know who have been in 70s theres not the most room for passengers and need or want in the rear of a 79 let alone the comfort of the rear, front is bad enough and that’s good compared to the rear, to me that is a 10%. to you maybe it’s more hence the question? So if it’s 10% meaning you rarely if ever will have rear passengers, why not remove the rear seats, build yourself, you have the skills a false floor and on the drivers side make a slot for the second spare wheel to roll in and out that is attached to the back wall upright still leaving at-least half the seat space between your drivers seat and back wall of 79 cab, the passenger side would be still completely spare for a Drifter style 2 draw setup, store camera gear or build whatever, you get a half on your side and a full access on the passenger side. This would be your core setup say for you and your wife, make this removable so seats could go back in place or even one seat (aftermarket if you take your daughter or someone else where there is plus 2 for example, but to me the size of the Tommi camper is 2 people so I can’t see how you’d be with more than 2 anyways most if not all of the time. It solves access to the spare! easy to roll out compared to the canopy height, it solves weight distribution as it’s even further forward and it will take up some space but that is workable, there still be plenty for gear bags storage boxes or self built draw system or whatever , you can make to suit your needs how you need them. Just my thoughts on that. Also re dirt and smell someone could make you a canvas wheel cover to mask that too, not a biggie imo. Whatever I can’t wait to see it hit the dirt for it’s first hit out, it will be different and that’s exciting to see, cheers and good luck with the rest of the process.👍
Andrew (Andrés in Spanish)
It is imposible to explain it better. All the rational on behind starts with WHAT YOU WANT TO DO instead of HOW you want to do. It is totally different to drive to “travel to a remote place and film it or do pictures” than to “drive a huge American truck plenty of electronics, not tropicalized and with immense potential failures. This is not a joke for all adventures (either 4x4 or bikes); first you should define WHAT and after you should adapt the HOW. You are teaching the first lesson of all adventurers. Thank you very much Professor.
It is not over the top. You are a Tinkerer, solving problems for the rest of us. Thank You.
Well said Andrew! When i bought my 79 dual cab people would say the same thing. Oh they're overpriced, oh i can't justify spending that much money on a farm truck etc. Those people just don't get it. They never will. They can't justify the price tag because they can't see where the money went. It's all underneath. The engineering. No independent suspension, no rack and pinion steering which breaks all the time in rough off road situations, no sealed bearings which are easy to re-pack and replace on the side of the road, hardly any electronics and decades of proven use in the world's harshest conditions. You're paying for that R&D, that time, that simplicity and reliability. That camper you chose is absolutely awesome, and the rear axle relocation is a great modification for your setup. It will drive beautifully on outback tracks. And remember, the longer the wheelbase, the more comfortable the ride. I'm really looking forward to seeing it in action on your first trip away! Keep it up mate!
First trip away should be to lake Eyre for all the salty yumps
It's the badge you're paying for, it can't be the vehicle. If it's simple and remained pretty much unchanged for decades how can it command such a price. People say "you're paying for the Toyota reliability" and I don't dispute that at all. But when does reliability kick in? At what age do you/can you say that reliability begins? I'd say reliability would begin at around 7 years after something was first used or after 200,000kms. If you don't keep the vehicle up to & after that point, then you may be paying for something you won't use, the reliability.
Not trying to create tension or argue, just raising a thought.
@@tengallonz I agree with you.
Take the td42 GU patrol or 105 series cruiser as an example. They've had the better part of 20+ years of private R&D behind them and we know they work and how tough they are.
We know all the short fallings of 79 series and that's just straight from factory not to mention the other issues popping up now (on top of the 70k+ price tag).
The older 105s, 80s and patrols are built to last and if you even spent half of what you spent on a 79 on those you've got the most rock solid and simplistic rig going around exactly what a 4wd should be.
@@tengallonz you're not taking into account material costs today compared to 20 to 30 years ago. Forget the engineering for a moment. How much would an 80 series or gq patrol cost brand new today built exactly the same? A lot of people don't realise how much cost cutting manufacturers take to build new vehicles. Less metal, cheaper design etc. This goes for anything you buy not just cars. The only thing that's changed on the 79 series is the engine and slightly thinner panels to meet ANCAP safety requirements. Everything else is exactly the same. Imagine how much a 40 series would cost brand new built like it was back in the day? 70 grand is not a lot of money today, it's just people are used to buying cheaper cars that last half as long. I see the failures in the workshop every day on cheaper 4 wheel drives that people consider comfortable, fuel efficient etc. In reality they're shitheaps. The shortcomings of the 70 series people talk about are actually its strengths. Narrower rear axle purposely left like that for strength in heavy loading in mining use. When I worked in the mines the patrols would rust quickly from the coal dust. Things like metal quality that no one talks about. Not to mention the 70 series was used as a military vehicle. Troop carrier. Haven't seen any patrols or 80's used in the military. I wonder why??
Jimbo Jones oh and don’t forget the top quality air filter.
Andrew bare with me on this but you are now looking at having the camper stand alone in relation to power. So what about engineering one of the rear doors into a gull wing or perhaps suicide door and by reducing the battery bank in the back seat you could put a fridge/ freezer in the back seat. Advantages- all the weight is well forward of the rear axle, the fridge will stay cooler due to the cab air conditioning, no need for a slide as it will be lower to the ground and the fridge is also part of the ute when the camper is off for day trips.
Depending on the the fridge size you may not even need to change the doors but that’s a matter of choice on your part.
Good idea. Would solve the access.
40 72 he will only answer questions if you pay him ( patreon)
Put Lamborghini hinges on the rear doors
Denis Vincent just putting an idea forward mate whether he answers or not doesn’t worry me.
@@47Rolling But then the fridge will be further away from the cooking area...
The Honesty of these videos is such breath of fresh air. Going where no other are going.
Simply brilliant Andrew... love watching and listening to every second of your videos. Maybe in my next life I'll be able to do the type of conversions that you are into and travel the world. I am 67 years old from Nepal and what you are doing now is my dream. I currently own a Nissan x trail t30 2004 model and do a lot of travelling within the country with my wife. All the very best and can't wait to see you in your new build out there in the bush.
Very nice! That's what makes personal builds amazing...it's all about YOUR preference. And why do it...because you can! Can't wait to see the full build and the maiden trip. Cheers.
I'm a simple minimalist guy, not usually into over the top, but I'm fascinated by this build. So many ideas on ovffer here that can be adaptable to any kind of build. My mind is going already!!
As long as you have been doing this, you most certainly deserve to build exactly what you want. Keep up the great work!
It surprises me that anyone tries to question what you do. Especially inexperienced people like myself. But I really appreciate the time you take to explain everything in depth.
I never commented about this great vehicle so well done, Andrew. Marvelous. Thats the category I'm in.
One of the most enjoyable channels on UA-cam. A pleasure to watch.
I have also taken out the back seats from my 79 double cab and installing the electrical set up in the cab. I already have the electrical set up in the canopy with roof top tent but I feel for a short trip putting the canopy on and taking it off takes a lot of time. This way fridge fits in the cab and I don’t need to worry about all the extra lights and fridge working of the main battery while canopy is off.
And if need to be the fridge can also be mounted on the tray.
I have watched all your videos and many of them several times over. There would never be a question from me of "why did you do this and not that? ( If I did it would only be to truly understand and most likely learn something." Your content is about you and your choices based on your needs. To me you are all about "why I did this" and that's how many of us are learning and why we are addicted to your content .(I am anyway) The very first video I saw I was hooked. If you think about that you gotta think why. Well, for me it's the detailed explaining of why, drawn from an abundant amount of experience. And yes, I love Land Cruisers, especially the ones we can't get in the States. Just wanna say, I greatly appreciate what you are doing along with all the time and effort you put into putting out good stuff. Good luck with the frig.
Andrew you can never go wrong with a land cruiser I my self have 25 years of experience with toyota in EAST AFRICA TANZANIA and we have some of the harsh condition in the world. I really like your builds cause u remain practical and affordable all the best to your new project.
I get the fridge issue as i had similar with trailers and so on. In the end I tossed the back seat and integrated the fridge as part of the setup. Its on a slide and at the right height plus if I drop the trailer or just take a swag and leave the trailer the fridge goes with me. This also means the fridge is protected.
Absolutely, you do what suits you. I consider your choices with you double cab build very interesting and inspired.
l have a single cab 79 with a full popup roof Camper, I would have considered a chassis stretched double cab if I thought of it.
Hi Andrew - i have been watching your programs since i was a young boy , used to video tape the shows (back in the day) and play it back ,listening to the amount of info you display in a recording. Over 30 years old now and still a fan . You do know your stuff , and some might disagree with your choices. And that is Fine ! Guys enjoy the hard work he puts in to this . Just my 2C . Durban - RSA
One of your best videos ever. Most valuable. Very informative and entertaining.
You are a class act Andrew. Never to be underestimated.
Horses for Courses.
Build what suits your lifestyle and what you want.
I think I was sold on the Tommy Camper when I saw you stand up in the back and showed how light and airy the bedroom was. What a wonderful place to wake up.
You can also get dressed inside easily because you can stand up.
Two people could sit and eat inside when it is raining.
Loving the build.
I love that you are solving these problems as you go. It’s a win, win for both manufacturer and adventurer. I live your passion and enthusiasm. Think big, dream big I say. Keep it up 👍🏻
I like how you reason through things. I also like the point that every choice made effects future decisions. I am really excited about this build.
"it's okay to change your mind"
In NL we say "progressive insight",
the ability to adapt to a better understanding.
It's called learning :-)
Dutch son, Nick Clegg disproved your theory.
Agree.
I'm pretty sure Andrew speaks Afrikaans so maybe you didn't have to translate 'voortschrijdend inzicht' '-)
About the second spare tyre: if you put just the tyre inside you can fill it up with, for example, recovery gear or towels etc. That way it hardly takes up any space at all!
Loving yours films Andrew and your explanations for the decisions you make about your builds
I am pleased you chose another Landcruiser, they are iconic to Australia.
Not many "UA-camrs" are as honest as Andrew. Such concise points in response to the commentators who don't understand the build. I must say that I'm surprised that there are so many people out there who just don't get it. In terms of drop down fridge slides, I too have considered acquiring one over the years but the weight has always put me off and will continue to do so, it's just not acceptable to take 40kg out of my vehicles GVM for a fridge slide.
Great clip Andrew, well explained, watched heaps of your clips and learn something new every time, even after spending 45 plus years in 4wd's and in the bush, Great job.
thanks Gary.
WOW i love this camper you can stand up inside the tent area and all the other stuff it just works like you said Andrew blank canvas and set it up as you want it
You dont have to explain yourself to haters that cant afford this level of build. I personally see your videos as a way to see whats possible, not what I can afford and then judge you for choosing things that are too expensive for me. Thank you for opening up the possibilities.
I am so glad I'm not the only ones whose mind goes absolutely crazy about a vehicle build. And I am so glad you are also on the weight train. As overlanding in a Suzuki Jimny, weight becomes everything and manufactures donot push the limits here. From fridges, to draws, canopies etc. They can all be be better engineered with modern technology to be lighter and more complex without comprising strength
Well said... To be honest I thought you already clarified these questions in other previous videos. Glad to see the build going so splendidly. No doubt there will be things changing here and there. It's to be expected. As you said.. You're experimenting.
Good on you Andrew. Why not, and you give those that can, something to aspire to. And for those that are like me who cannot get out there due to health reasons, you give us real enjoyment and we are with you virtually all the way. So congratulations and keep doing what you are doing. Cheers Peter.
You are an artist, your work is excellent!
You have many years experience, people's comments are important but not decision makers.
Keyboard warriors will always be that, keyboard warriors.
Keep up the excellent work!
I resonate with "It's okay to change your mind" I have had a bit mental change on my build recently, and it was something that I was prepared to overlook until the problem was literally prepared to punch me in the face. Because I felt so pressured to stick with my initial intention out of fear of changing, however since I have made that decision it has been one of the most liberating things I have done! Andrew, at the end of the day if you went through this entire build, and you decided it didnt work, or that it is fantastic. We would still be here to watch you learn and figure it out. Even someone with as much experience as you and who has built as many vehicles as you, still learns daily. Its a beautiful thing. Someone like me just coming into the industry who has learnt everything he knows from people like you, Ronny, Expedition Overland, etc can rest assure that in the next 30 years we will also continue to learn new things everyday, having the mental flexibility to embrace change and new ideas, is what keeps it all exciting! Either way, I am very excited to see your vision come to reality.
Andrew I totally get what you have said and your thanking behind it, as it stands with me I've done roof tents, my children love it still but me and my wife struggle to climb up and down so a few years ago I started building Australian style camping trailers which worked very well, but like you you evolve and now I've started building an off road teardrop so we have no set up time for us, as for the future a de-mountable camper like yours will be the way I'm just not there yet, keep up the excellent work and on a foot note really enjoyed talking to you at the German overland show 👍
The way I would solve the fridge problem is to use a good useful foldable single step ladder to access the fridge. no drop-down needed and a small single step ladder is useful for other things too. ( lightweight and handy) Plus it's a form of exercise every time you grab a coke from the fridge, yay.
Stand up fridge maybe easier
@@rickfranke4886 Not energy efficient. You loose all cold air every time you open it.
Have you considered a drawer fridge? Engel do a 30 litre with the ability to mount the compressor separately. You could have two 30 litre drawer fridges mounted like a filing cabinet.
love your videos , looking forward to see the finished product out in the bush .
If I understood you correctly, regarding the fridge freezer needing doors along the length of the fridge, ARB makes a dual zone 70L that IS a top loader with the doors hinged along the length. Hope that helps
G'day Andrew
There's a company out of Victoria by the name of Off Road Downunder that manufacturer Australian made 4wd accessories. They happen to do a few fridge slides and they do offer an Alloy 60lt fridge slide, that may be of interest to you.
Love the build mate, such insight and experience that you've to offer.
With regards to the spare wheel location. Those large ali uprights on the front of the tray seem to take up huge amount of space for what purpose? Can you remove or rework the bars to accommodate the spare wheel there without having to slide the tomycamper backwards? That 'wasted' area between the back of the cab and the front of the Tomycamper is weight and balance gold! and at the moment those bars are just using it up!.
The RAM truck base suggestion can only come from those not familiar with your work.
The axle move on the 79 was critical for all the reasons you state and well executed.
@14:40 - the explanation of the concept of space, and its use. Excellent perspective and one worth having in the discernment bag.
What are you thoughts on a 24v cabin system? Separate from the factory crank system, which is a 2-battery (dual) 12v. All accessories apart from the crank system run on 24V. Reason being that at 24V, you need half the current to accomplish the same work as 12V at double the current. That means the cost of the entire electrical build can be less due to working with less current - smaller wires, smaller fuses, smaller chance of catastrophic loss in the event of a failure. Current cannot be 'conjured' like voltage can. So efficient use of it is key, and 24v seems to use less of it than 12v does, imo.
Would appreciate any insight you can share. Thank you. Love your channel! God bless.
When guys see my build, they say it's way more and it's over kill. Like You, why the Hell not. I'm happy with it.
Your presentation is so good you have me responding to the screen like a mad man. I've said several times "I didn't even think of that." My wife said who are you face timing, Love?". Oh no one I responded. There was a silence . As if she was contemplating long term care insurance for mental incompetence. Then I said it's a 4xoverland. She responded with I understand now. Knowing a bit about overlanding but more about your presentation you saved me from a rubber room in my golden years.... Thank you Sir.
Did you think about putting the spare wheel behind one of the seats inside the cabin? Maybe standing in the back seat foot room or lying flat on the wooden surface you put in. 4:16. Maybe with a table plate on top for workspace. It would mean one side without a drawer there.
Andrew gets it. He understands what's important. I respect his passion, his experience and his logic. Great choice, great videos, great advice for all of us.
Really appreciate your content Andrew - and your honest and thoughtful opinions. Thought I would just chime in, as you mentioned the issue with track width, I've got an F250 which has traveled through a fair bit of Australia off road, and I've (touch wood) yet to have a puncture with it, despite doing the Madagan Line, quite a bit of Central Aus and Fraser island on worn out 20" All Terrains. You do have to close your eyes a bit to your paint work though with the extra width, but with the power (mine is a recent model and I've made some improvements to the engine power) and the good Automatic transmission, its a joy in sand, climbing the steepest part of Big Red with ease on its first attempt on a day where 9 vehicles in front of me (various Land Cruisers from a 200 to 79's to 80's and a 105, a Patrol wagon and Ute, and a couple of smaller dual cabs) all failed it. I also find that fuel economy I get is similar to friends that have Land Cruisers, unless you are regularly using all that power that is available (my Simpson desert figures made me blush).
That said if you aren't familiar with a vehicle like this, I'm not sure I'd recommend them in Aus, if you factor in the modifications required to a Landcruiser the cost IMO isn't that much of an issue, and you have a much nicer platform (much stouter drivetrain, transmission and engine) that is quiet, comfortable and bloody luxurious. They also hold their value as well as a Landcruiser. I've owned a couple of F250's so I'm familiar with most of the idiosyncrasies, how to easily source parts when needed, and for what I am not comfortable to work on, I've got probably the best F250 mechanic in Aus about 15mins drive from my house... but the problem being is that none of them are built originally with the build quality of a Landcruiser (not talking about the major drivetrain components, I'd actually take the Cummins, Duramax or 6.7 Powerstroke over the 1VD for longevity, its the little things like sensors, switches etc.), and if there is an issue with it, the ability to pull into the closest town in Australia, or even a cattle station with a problem and for them not to look googly eyed at you is a massive plus. As much as I do love my F-Truck, as the more adventurous parts of Australia have begun to hold more appeal to me - I think my next vehicle will probably be a Landcruiser.
I like the way you think on moving weigh forward of the rear axel.... As we have with our dual cab cruiser.. We went with a Metalink camp box & tray.
I totally agree as we get older our needs change we enjoy a bit more comfort and we have the experience to know exactly what works.
Great explanation Andrew, we all have different needs and budgets and all want something different out of our vehicles so its great to get an explanation behind your thought process, also well done on being honest about who has provided gear for no cost, so many in your position don't and there integrity suffers because of it. Really keen to see if you come up with a solution for the fridge.
Oh boy your videos have come a long way since you launched the channel. I watch every single one now. Even though a lot of the products you discuss are not available in Canada I still really enjoy your perspective. Keep up the good work!
Well done on this video, vehicle choice and build. Always enjoyable and follow these closely. Great work
Hit the nail on the head mate. Perfect touring build
lots of people forget, common brands can be serviced in many places and many country towns. Many of the USA trucks don't have the dealer and parts support by comparison
I really love your builds and ideas... You are always looking for better!... What about putting the spare tyre behind passenger/driver seat? Though the smell might annoy you and not preferable location... Otherwise the location you picked I believe is ideal and a cover/bag would eliminate any unwanted dirt.
Bravo - it’s your build to your desires and requirements!!
U failed to mention - for overseas viewers - Toyota is the main commercial vehicle/brand used by commercial mining companies in Australia. In many remote areas u can get Toyota service, & spares. To have a vehicle towed is $6 to $12,000 - so a big US vehicle is not really a sensible option
everist22 You know 👍🏻
Great stuff Andrew - Inspiring as always.
There's always something that can be taken away and used even on the most introductory build. Thank you
Why not put the freezer in the car where the back seats used to be? You could also use it when the camper is off. Or do you also want to acces it from inside the camper?
Another Option for Electrical - Inergy just released TODAY it's FLEX DC POWER STATION... Hopefully this will help simplify certain parts of my Overland build. Anyway another great video Andrew!
Good answers to all the questions and a nice build. I am waiting to see what you do with the fridge as many have tried but there are compromises with everything. The easiest would be the front opening - could you make it work if you had slide out containers within the front opening fridge? Then you are only moving the contents and not the fridge.
For me, best aspect of your videos is the thought process - working out the details of your ideas. Life is a journey - does not mean you have to use the same ‘vehicle’ the whole way. If I camped the same way and same gear I used 30+ years ago, I would be miserable. Probably would have chucked the idea of going camping 25+ years ago. So, well done Andrew! Get the vehicle right, for you, so you can focus on your journey!
I hope it meets all your explanations and you enjoy it Andrew. Its great work.
Your a gas man.😀
I put my ARB Elements fridge in my rear seat area (seats deleted), and diverted the warm air from the compressor exhaust into the lithium battery box to never have to deal with freezing temps. 2-for-1.
How the ARB Elements fridge? That might work well here.
4xoverland Honestly a fantastic fridge, however to be truthful I know you are being weight conscious and due to the fridge being built to withstand being outdoors 24/7, it’s built a tad heavy at 70lbs. If I was watching weight, I’d choose another.
Are freezing temperatures really a problem in the outback? I only ask as I don't know, I live in the Pennines of Yorkshire (where freezing temperatures ARE a problem, but not as much as they used to be).
@@AnthonyIlstonJones Probably not unless you go to the high country, but in the States it is was a concern for me.
@@AnthonyIlstonJones the desert areas in mid winter can be just below zero at night, but southern states ie alpine and high country are ski fields in winter
Awesome explanations Andrew👏
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I’ve that Tommy Camper, I’d buy one of those today, awesome!
Love your videos
As for the spare wheel and fridge, my measurements show that (based on my Hilux D4D):
- Remove the back seat for long trips needing 2 spare wheels
- Place the spare behind the driver's seat, lifting your camera goodies space by 380mm or so.
- Place the fridge on the left, 90 degrees to the back door. No slider needed
The blank canvass idea is good, very curious to see it perform when its finished.
Adrew, this camper is a superb choice. Considering how important a tire is I would keep a full spare-wheel inside protected from UV and dirt. Waiting to see the build now
Thanks for sharing your insights and expertise. This will be my choice of setups when finances allow. Dream rig . Loving this series.
What about a bushman fridge? Expands from 35L to 52L with different sized lids, mine has been faultless for years now
Thanks Andrew, I viewed your 76 series video and immediately liked and subscribed. 4wd accessories are quite pricey here in PNG, but its worth saving some extra Kina to upgrade a wonderful truck....can"t wait to see your next video.
Thank you for being you!
I own a Ram power wagon. I’m all about them. BUT, what you have said all makes sense. And I would agree with your decision.
Good on you JD Miller, your response is like a breath of fresh air, sanity prevails, cheers.
Good onya’ Andrew, going well mate. Looking forward to seeing the Ute on a trip. Thanks for talking about the bits and pieces of the build in detail. 👍
Good on you Andrew, been following your adventures for many years with much respect.
Horses for courses I'd say, the one perfect camper set up to suit everybody is in fantasy land.
Anyhow the better your setup is the more time you'll have to sit around the camp fire thinking hmm wouldn't be nice to have a ....
Soon you'll be planning the next build, Maybe the new Landy Defender will feature?
Nothing is impossible. I don't want to purchase a ready made roof top tent for my 2004 4JX1 3.0 Diesel Isuzu Trooper because it wouldn't "comfortably" suit my family and I and above all, prices on the market are sky high. So, started thinking, drawing and found the best way - economic way - to build a DIY comfortable and easy to mount and use 4 persons roof top tent. It's a new 1 month old project and about to see light soon, as soon as I get everything I need. I will film and take lots of pictures and once finished and ready, will post on UA-cam. The Trooper project was intended for a Morocco road trip from London right to the border of Mauritania, crossing France and Spain. But Morocco decided to leave it's border shut down due to Coronavirus crisis until the end of September. So have plenty of time now to work on my Trooper and get things right and this channel is a gold mine, playing the main role in getting my project on its wheels.
"Over the top, and why the hell not!" Quite Right! Totally agree.
Hi Andrew. Love the build.
Try and ARB fridge they build them the way you need them to open Andrew. You may like to look at them. They even have the elements fridge which is up around the 70L you're looking for.
Enjoying the build videos thank you. Although your build is out of my budget, the ideas I pick up here have value and can be scaled to suit my vehicle, a hilux. Your weight saving ideas are of particular importance to me.
BTW, I bought a second (stock size) spare for a desert trip I did last year and was shocked at how heavy it was!
Keep up the great work.
Hello Andrew
This is just my personal opinion your choices are brilliant, the times I have watched your vehicle builds and every one has been built to your specs which is the only way I think you should build a overland vehicle, as the build has got to be done for the person that is using it, not the person who thinks well I would have done this way. I own a land rover discovery 2 TD5, and just about finished building it for trips around the UK and Europe, it has been eighteen months in the build starting from ground up but I would have purchased a Toyota 79 series if I could have done here in the UK.
Any way Andrew and family stay safe and as always enjoy your build and over landing trips
Have you thought to put 2 40l drawer fridges like evakool, one on top of another? 1 frizer, 1 fridge
I see a lot of negative comments about the Ram. For my needs it's been a great fit. Plenty of power to tow my tractor, plenty of room for the dog and refrigerator, comfortable enough to drive all day and with a cap or canopy a ton of room for gear and a place to sleep. That being said imo Andrew made the right vehicle choice for his needs. The Ram is very large and heavy, not a good fit for tight trails, sand and in theory not as bullet proof as a 79 series.
Andrew I can't wait for you to set sail in the 79 I tell us about your experience. Funny you mention a RAM truck, I would trade you one for a 70 series any day.
Hatuey McFarland Funny how he mentioned “ Dodge” pretty funny since they haven’t made RAM trucks for over a decade. Old mate needs to get his facts straight.
dazza421970 WTF??? They are the same Chrysler guzzlers, they just removed the letters Dodge but still the same thing.
Hatuey McFarland I’m sure you will do it. You already know what Rams are made of.
I’m glad you’re sharing the details and frustrations! I too am trying to solve the fridge and slider space / weight issues in my 105 and 200 series builds. Currently the best compromise is to downsize to a 40l Evakool drawer fridge.... if only they made bigger versions! I’m very interested to see what you come up with.
Is a slider really necessary though? It's more weight & something else to go wrong. A simple step and a slightly larger fridge would be lighter and cheaper. People seem to want things SO convenient when it isn't necessarily the best option. Just my thoughts on the subject.
Anthony Jones I appreciate you being a devils advocate? It would have to be a folding step mounted to the rear bar in my case as many of the better/wilder camping locations don’t have level ground at the rear to allow for a nice portable step. Having said that, my goal is to try and eliminate people having to climb anything if they don’t have to haha. I’ve used the rear bar as a step for years now.....I do like the idea of a folding step though.. I’ll need to research how much drop they provide to see if there is a benefit.. thank you for the comment
Anthony Jones I appreciate you being a devils advocate. It would have to be a folding step mounted to the rear bar in my case as many of the better/wilder camping locations don’t have level ground at the rear to allow for a nice portable step. Having said that, my goal is to try and eliminate people having to climb anything if they don’t have to haha. I’ve used the rear bar as a step for years now.....I do like the idea of a folding step though.. I’ll need to research how much drop they provide to see if there is a benefit.. thank you for the comment
Knowing a vehicle can't be underestimated, especially when far from commercial resources. Well done.
Those that think this is over the top need to go look at the likes of Patriot vehicle builds and adjust your parameters. ASPW builds are very reasoned.
Peter Phillips patriot builds are shit mate, all for show! Trays are light duty and canopy’s are a complete waste of space. There are so many more people out there marking proper equipment that is more suited for the applications
@@goodie1704 So many people get sucked in to their flashy Patriot Games TV show and using their gear to be tough. Its pure marketing Hype.
Patriot is almost typical for the American market. Where an "overland" trip is 100kms from home. Rigs kitted with everything AND 2 kitchen sinks. Their camper trailers are awesome but essentially all their products are for cheque book tourers
Tom Goode shoot me some names please. Thank you.
Andrew, I love the way you explain and detail everything. What about putting the 2nd spare under the truck, between the chasis rails? Its where all utes have them from factory, at least the ones that come to South America.
Hope you can find a clever solution for this.
Best wishes and regards from Uruguay.
What you said about changing your mind... that was excellent
Totally agree mate. Why the hell not indeed. I personally also can't afford that type of build, however it does give me fantastic ideas for what is possible. We all need a goal in life, something to strive for.
Well done Andrew. You’re marvellous!
Hi ASPW. Re the 2d spare tire. Instead of hanging it off the back, why not put it side by side with the 1st spare in the space between the roll bar and the tommy camper. By my rudimentary calculation the widths of both will fit in the space. Thanks for your work.
Yes it will fit, but then Id have to remove one of the upper drawers and it would take up extremely valuable interior space.
Andrew, you are an inspiration, Thanks for your enthusiasm- some has rubbed off on me and i'm very grateful
Andrew, Love your films... The David Attenborough of the 4wding world !! After watching yourself, Ronny Dahl & Patriot Campers, I have purchased a 105 Landcruiser to do some camping with my family... Am so excited to learn, equip, modify and get out into the outback.... So a big thank you 😊
Still glad you went with the Land Cruiser.
Bonjour Mr St Pierre White. I have been watching more of youtube videos since the virus forced many of us to stay home and work from home as well. I must say that your production is one of the best I have seeing and enjoy all of them. Your videos are very educational. It is unfortunate that north American population are not being offered the same trucks made available else where. I would of being curious trying out the some of the Toyota land cruiser in the bush where I live, in Canada. I personally drive a 2500 diesel ram truck, which has tones of power and some comfort. It would be a treat to watch you create an overland ram truck, like the 2500 diesel. Thank you very much for your production of videos and the sharing of knowledge.
Hi Andrew. On the National Luna 52L you can move the hinges. So it will open as you want it to open
Onya mate !
So Andrew just some thoughts and prob you have already thought of these too.
But 1st whenI saw your model LR and colors that you took into the wrap shop I was dubious on that if honest, but when you drove it outside, gotta say it came out great and importantly it’s different to anyone else out there I have seen in Aussie, so congrats will be good to see the finished truck landscaped out in its natural habitat for a LC then Im sure it will really pop.
Couple questions a few others have raised the headboard, why retain a round hoop, looks at-least 60m. headboard, could have gained some more inches to the cab and less weight alah Patriots design or similar without hitting the cab or does this remove when camper is on the tray?
Big one is the second tire, in my experience when speccing a build or even buying a vehicle I use the 90/10 rule, specc build for the 90% I need to use to for not the 10% which is where some go wrong, everything is always a compromise go to big you lose access to many off road locations weight width sheer size etc etc, my point is you have a double cab, it’s for Aussie conditions, won’t get an argument from me about that choice, bigger brings bigger problems not solutions, I got that early on, what works in Africa or US dosen’t often work in Aus or NZ especially.
1st q.. How many passengers and how often are you going to have more than you and or your wife, eg a 3rd per or 4th person, and even if you did have, we all know who have been in 70s theres not the most room for passengers and need or want in the rear of a 79 let alone the comfort of the rear, front is bad enough and that’s good compared to the rear, to me that is a 10%. to you maybe it’s more hence the question?
So if it’s 10% meaning you rarely if ever will have rear passengers, why not remove the rear seats, build yourself, you have the skills a false floor and on the drivers side make a slot for the second spare wheel to roll in and out that is attached to the back wall upright still leaving at-least half the seat space between your drivers seat and back wall of 79 cab, the passenger side would be still completely spare for a Drifter style 2 draw setup, store camera gear or build whatever, you get a half on your side and a full access on the passenger side. This would be your core setup say for you and your wife, make this removable so seats could go back in place or even one seat (aftermarket if you take your daughter or someone else where there is plus 2 for example, but to me the size of the Tommi camper is 2 people so I can’t see how you’d be with more than 2 anyways most if not all of the time.
It solves access to the spare! easy to roll out compared to the canopy height, it solves weight distribution as it’s even further forward and it will take up some space but that is workable, there still be plenty for gear bags storage boxes or self built draw system or whatever , you can make to suit your needs how you need them.
Just my thoughts on that.
Also re dirt and smell someone could make you a canvas wheel cover to mask that too, not a biggie imo.
Whatever I can’t wait to see it hit the dirt for it’s first hit out, it will be different and that’s exciting to see, cheers and good luck with the rest of the process.👍