Man, I really do love your guys' Tolkien videos.. you bring them all to life and in such a concise way, that it makes it a bit easier to follow the enormous amount of characters and locations that Tolkien invented. You're the best at this style of presentation and it works greatly for Tolkien.
This may be a question of definition. In the Second and Third Age they were known as Haradrim, but I doubt the name was ever used in the First Age. In that days when (quite elven-centristic) Beleriand was see as the realm that matters, of course all men east of the Blue Mountains (and even more those beyond the Misty Mountains) were "Easterlings".
@calebmarchand2512 There was no split during the 2nd Age. The Haradrim were present from the very get-go as primitive men until they met the Numenoreans who taught them agriculture and craftsmanship. This led to friendly relationships between the two peoples until Numenor became corrupt and hostile towards Harad and other men of Middle Earth.
*_"An Aliance once existed between Elves and Men. Long ago we fought and died together. We come to honor that allegiance [...] We are proud to fight alongside men once more"_* -Haldir, the Elf, LOTRS movies
This alliance referenced by Haldir was the Alliance between King Elendil of Arnor and King Gil Galad of Lindon against Sauron in the end of Second Age which ended in the defeat of Sauron,in which major men powers of Arnor and Gondor(governed by Elendil sons Isildur and Anarion)with all Elvish kingdoms(Lindon,Rivendell,Lothlórien and Greenwood/Mirkwood realm)ganged up on Sauron which had done a premature assault on Minas Ithil(Morgul). It had nothing to do with First Age and Haldir didn't fight in Helm Deep in the books,
1@@kermitthethinker1465 *I quoted "LOTRS MOVIES", never said Books* . I am verse on the lore, thanks, have read the all books, including Hobbit and Silmarilion. Haldir doesnt exist in the books, first of all. He is not refering to the second age necessarily. Haldir could be referring to the friendship or aliance between the Mithrim and the first Edain, the friendship between the house of Beör and the elves of Finrod. It could be to the alliance between men and elves from the first age that fought against Morgoth rather than anything between the Numenoreans and the elves. I like that quote because its an indirect reference to the firsr age friendship between the Edain and Elves of the First Age.
@@Alejojojo6 Haldir does exist in the books,he is the one who receives the company of the ring when they arrive in Lothlorien was Haldir and his brothers two brothers(one was called Orophin and I am forgetting the others name).
Amazing work man. It is clear that you studied Tolkien's world intensely, and you speak with knowledge. I always find your videos entertaining and really informative. Keep going! ⚔️
House of Beör was granted Ladros to live which Finrod originally settled before founding Nargothrond,they didn't settled the whole of Dorthonion which was ruled by Galadriel brothers(Aegnor and Angrod). Also the 1st age Easterlings were not same as second and third age Easterlings.
Considering Dune is hugely defining to the genre of science-fiction, as Lord of the Rings is to fantasy, I'd say a lore series of Dune is overdue. Especially with the recent film adaptions.
Up until I started watching the W&W vids I always took the Middle Earth men for granted and didnt even bother or care for them. Maybe it was because this world already had fantastical elves and dwarves and humans were, well, humans. But deep diving further through these vids its fascinating to learn of the diffrentiations like the houses of the Edain eventually becoming the Numenoreans, the formation of the Easterlings, and the foundation of the Rohirrim.
I’m surprised the Edain managed to cross the length of Middle Earth. The Avari, Silvan, and Nandor elves as well as Dwarves could have mistaken them for new breed of invading orcs and massacred them Tolkien should have also explored more on the elves racism against humans. He implied it but didn’t push through it expressively
Before the Third House of the Edain was called the House of Hador, they were called the Folk of Marach. When they entered Beleriand under Hador's great great-grandfather Marach. I wish Wizards & Warriors further luck in future videos, and hope they'll one day cover the fantasy and Sci-Fi worlds of anime/manga.
My one and only gripe with this video is incredibly nitpicky and I think its a great video, I enjoyed it thoroughly. That being said, my only gripe is with some pronounciations. Bay-or not Bee-or and some other ones, but hey if thats the only complaint i have this is an excellent video
Should be noted men of the 1st age were way more powerful and longer live than their descendants in later Ages. Numenorians are the closest thing to the 1st age men in the 2nd age. By the 3rd age, only limited bloodlines still have the might of the 1st age among men.
The Men of the First Age lived the same lifespan as ordinary Men. Bëor the Old died at the age 95, which was considered old at the time. It was their descendants, the Númenoreans, that Men lived lifespans at 3 or 4 centuries.
I'd be interested to know why/how/the discussions around the Eldar giving up large swaths of their land to these short lived hewmons- like, seriously, they were just cool with it?
I guess it was mostly because the Eldar simply had no the people to use the land for themself. Their number were limited and I doubt it grew much in that years, so giving away land they only claim but could not really populate was little problem. Like the Gondorians of later ages gave what would become Rohan away (ignoring the people who already lived there).
Thingol is a Sindar elf, but he was the only one of them to ever see the light of the two trees, since he was one of the original ambassadors of the elves to the undying lands before the elves migrated
@@Alejojojo6 esterlings are of short heigth, stocky, they have most trade with dwarves, and half of them served the dark side. Both vanyar and hador are blonde, tall, strong and figth as falanx.
People and cultures *influence* each other. These men have little traditions or knowledge of their own. It's a lot like how the Germanic bands got influenced by Rome for hundreds of years, took up their arms and ways, and fought for them for land and prosperity. It's called 'Noldorization' in a good essay about it. Tolkien knows this and drew this parallel. While nowadays we know the Germans had their own strong culture and traditions, Tolkien was influenced a lot by Roman annals of the migration age, and it shows. As Andreth says to Finrod- “We may be “Children of Eru”, as ye say in your lore; but we are children to you also: to be loved a little maybe, and yet creatures of less worth, upon whom ye may look down from the height of your power and your knowledge, with a smile, or with pity, or with a shaking of heads”
You are mixing Second Age narratives with First Age narratives, and Eriador and further east with Beleriand (e.g. "the Alliance of Dwarves and Men in the North came early in the Second Age", Dwarves and Men). Where are you getting the Easterlings as using Elephants?
@@AB-gk8cs The title says "in the First Age". and the video was attributing Second Age actions in Eriador or further east as happening in the First Age in Beleriand.
@@mEmory______ You are right it is not that difficult. And he is attributing Second Age actions in Eriador to the First Age in Beleriand before 5 minutes is complete, such as the Alliance of Dwarves and Men, which as I quoted from Tolkien, is a Secomd Age thing....
Listen a 2 minute ad read might not seem like much, but whwn tbe video is onky 20 minutes long, that is now 10% of the content is just an ad. Any other medium and you would be chastised.
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As a human myself this race of Middle-Earth has always appealed to me
Bro we all humans, I hope
@@sebastian4507 except Keanu Reeves, who's an elf or Maia
Can't wait for you to cover the Numenorean Army of the Second Age
“Day shall come again!”
-Hurin
"Aurë entuluva!"
And it’s a damn tragedy that day never came for him again afterwards.
@@myriadmediamusingsOhh, but it did.
Man, I really do love your guys' Tolkien videos.. you bring them all to life and in such a concise way, that it makes it a bit easier to follow the enormous amount of characters and locations that Tolkien invented. You're the best at this style of presentation and it works greatly for Tolkien.
A series on the Mass Effect Universe would be legit!
I hear you
I concur!
@@WizardsandWarriors yes please! first contact war!
The Easterlings didn't use elephants. That was the Haradrim who have no ties to the Easterlings. The Haradrim are also known as Southerons.
This may be a question of definition. In the Second and Third Age they were known as Haradrim, but I doubt the name was ever used in the First Age. In that days when (quite elven-centristic) Beleriand was see as the realm that matters, of course all men east of the Blue Mountains (and even more those beyond the Misty Mountains) were "Easterlings".
@@marcbartuschka6372 still no elephants
Shut up u know nothing
In the first age, the easterlings are both the easterlings and haradrim i believe the two factions split during the 2nd age if my memory is correct
@calebmarchand2512 There was no split during the 2nd Age. The Haradrim were present from the very get-go as primitive men until they met the Numenoreans who taught them agriculture and craftsmanship. This led to friendly relationships between the two peoples until Numenor became corrupt and hostile towards Harad and other men of Middle Earth.
They houses of hador,beor,haleth and legendary feats is my favorite part of book silmarilion.
I love these videos. Really shows just how much one has to consider when it comes worldbuilding. They're a great lesson and example rolled into one.
10:03 "Secretly sent an orc"
What, a single one?
He was a Terminator Orc, so pretty badass
Have very much enjoyed this series of armies detailing what they have. Terrific stuff !
*_"An Aliance once existed between Elves and Men. Long ago we fought and died together. We come to honor that allegiance [...] We are proud to fight alongside men once more"_* -Haldir, the Elf, LOTRS movies
This alliance referenced by Haldir was the Alliance between King Elendil of Arnor and King Gil Galad of Lindon against Sauron in the end of Second Age which ended in the defeat of Sauron,in which major men powers of Arnor and Gondor(governed by Elendil sons Isildur and Anarion)with all Elvish kingdoms(Lindon,Rivendell,Lothlórien and Greenwood/Mirkwood realm)ganged up on Sauron which had done a premature assault on Minas Ithil(Morgul).
It had nothing to do with First Age and Haldir didn't fight in Helm Deep in the books,
1@@kermitthethinker1465 *I quoted "LOTRS MOVIES", never said Books* .
I am verse on the lore, thanks, have read the all books, including Hobbit and Silmarilion. Haldir doesnt exist in the books, first of all. He is not refering to the second age necessarily. Haldir could be referring to the friendship or aliance between the Mithrim and the first Edain, the friendship between the house of Beör and the elves of Finrod. It could be to the alliance between men and elves from the first age that fought against Morgoth rather than anything between the Numenoreans and the elves.
I like that quote because its an indirect reference to the firsr age friendship between the Edain and Elves of the First Age.
@@Alejojojo6 Haldir does exist in the books,he is the one who receives the company of the ring when they arrive in Lothlorien was Haldir and his brothers two brothers(one was called Orophin and I am forgetting the others name).
Amazing work man. It is clear that you studied Tolkien's world intensely, and you speak with knowledge. I always find your videos entertaining and really informative. Keep going! ⚔️
House of Beör was granted Ladros to live which Finrod originally settled before founding Nargothrond,they didn't settled the whole of Dorthonion which was ruled by Galadriel brothers(Aegnor and Angrod).
Also the 1st age Easterlings were not same as second and third age Easterlings.
Yes, but some may have been fled back into the east when the War against valinor destroyed Beleriand and joined the people there.
@@marcbartuschka6372 they fled back to Eriador and became the Dunlendings and the men of Eredwaith.
@@FoD163 it could be the Hillmen of Rhudaur,if I remember correctly the Dunlendings are associated with the House of Haleth not Bëor
considering your LOTR videos are awesome may I suggest analyzing the battle of Beruna from the Narnia series?
I truly hope there will be future LOTR movies made about the 1st age. So much rich and deep History of the 3 races.
So much amazing potential!
Do you have any plans for Dune universe. With your animations it could be great one.
Seconded!
Considering Dune is hugely defining to the genre of science-fiction, as Lord of the Rings is to fantasy, I'd say a lore series of Dune is overdue. Especially with the recent film adaptions.
This is another well-made and excellent video. It is definitely going into my favorites playlist.
Thank you for this upload!!! Your work is phenomenal
Nice work dude thanks
Love your content guys
House of Hador for me are the best clan of men that ever existed in Middle. Loyalty at its finest.
Could you do a video on the Helldivers universe?
Humble request for Malazan Marines.
Just Malazan lore in general.
Up until I started watching the W&W vids I always took the Middle Earth men for granted and didnt even bother or care for them. Maybe it was because this world already had fantastical elves and dwarves and humans were, well, humans.
But deep diving further through these vids its fascinating to learn of the diffrentiations like the houses of the Edain eventually becoming the Numenoreans, the formation of the Easterlings, and the foundation of the Rohirrim.
I would love to see a Documentary on what Uniform and Armour was worn by the men of Gondor in the War of the Ring.
Hey guys. Just reminding you that a look into the lore of the Legacy of Kain series would be awesome.
Great video
Cool new video 😊 another great job
assassin's Creed lore please next
And continue the what ifs series
I really like this kind of content! :)
Thanks for another great video! 🧝♀🔥⚔
First Akaviri Invasion of Tamriel
Love these videos!
Wonderful !!!🤗🤗🤗🤗
Emeldir, wife of Barahir led their people to Brethil.
Will you be continuing the star wars lore series?
Yep!
@@WizardsandWarriors amazing can't wait, keep up the great videos.
I think it would be a good idea to cover dune. It is "trending" now and even most of the book readers do not read the lore encyclopedias
I’m surprised the Edain managed to cross the length of Middle Earth. The Avari, Silvan, and Nandor elves as well as Dwarves could have mistaken them for new breed of invading orcs and massacred them
Tolkien should have also explored more on the elves racism against humans. He implied it but didn’t push through it expressively
I wish you do Cyberpunk Corporate and Unification Wars.
Before the Third House of the Edain was called the House of Hador, they were called the Folk of Marach. When they entered Beleriand under Hador's great great-grandfather Marach.
I wish Wizards & Warriors further luck in future videos, and hope they'll one day cover the fantasy and Sci-Fi worlds of anime/manga.
Is there going to be anymore Wheel of Time content being released soon?
Not soon, but yes
Try middle earth Far East place and blue wizards
Gentlepersons, this is the 173rd day that I humbly submit my petition for a Fraggle Rock lore video.
The people demand a deep dive on fraggle rock
@@coreystockdale6287God damn right we do!!!!😭😭😭
I once asked for Avatar the Last Airbender lore videos. Never happened
@@blackflagsnroses6013Have faith brother.
Pepper Jack love Fraggle Rock.
Alexander doesn't die alternative please!!🙏
Love your videos! Anymore Conan lore in the works?
quick question: why did you guyst abandon the Wheel of Time lore series?
My one and only gripe with this video is incredibly nitpicky and I think its a great video, I enjoyed it thoroughly. That being said, my only gripe is with some pronounciations. Bay-or not Bee-or and some other ones, but hey if thats the only complaint i have this is an excellent video
Where are the videos of first law series.
I am waiting for them.😢
Nice
When is First Law part 3 coming?
Not sure
Should be noted men of the 1st age were way more powerful and longer live than their descendants in later Ages.
Numenorians are the closest thing to the 1st age men in the 2nd age.
By the 3rd age, only limited bloodlines still have the might of the 1st age among men.
The Men of the First Age lived the same lifespan as ordinary Men. Bëor the Old died at the age 95, which was considered old at the time.
It was their descendants, the Númenoreans, that Men lived lifespans at 3 or 4 centuries.
I'd be interested to know why/how/the discussions around the Eldar giving up large swaths of their land to these short lived hewmons- like, seriously, they were just cool with it?
I guess it was mostly because the Eldar simply had no the people to use the land for themself. Their number were limited and I doubt it grew much in that years, so giving away land they only claim but could not really populate was little problem. Like the Gondorians of later ages gave what would become Rohan away (ignoring the people who already lived there).
It wasn't that big of a area,they gave Ladros,Dorlomin,Lothlann and Brethil,it a very small area.
Not sure if Thingol was Noldor? Dont think he ever went west
Thingol is a Sindar elf, but he was the only one of them to ever see the light of the two trees, since he was one of the original ambassadors of the elves to the undying lands before the elves migrated
2nd age men were OP.
Yes,but first age men did amazing things without been super human due to Valar blessings to Numenor.
In Middle Earth, humans can stand their own against supernaturally strong dwarfs and agile elves because of plot.
First comment 🤙
The Age of Men is over.
Although your real life channel became a bit biased but still waiting to see some GOT and HOTD
who asked
Biased?
@@vladimirthegreen6097 Ah yes the white supremacist.
@@vladimirthegreen6097 and the options of dumbasses don’t matter.
How repetitive is tolkien.
Beor house = Noldor
Halth house = Nandor
Hador house = Vanyar
Easterlings = Dwarves
Em... no the Easterlings and the Dwarves have nothing in common and the Vanyar are few, the Hador are a lot.
Easterlings = avars?
@@Alejojojo6 esterlings are of short heigth, stocky, they have most trade with dwarves, and half of them served the dark side.
Both vanyar and hador are blonde, tall, strong and figth as falanx.
@@aurelian2668 why just avars?
People and cultures *influence* each other. These men have little traditions or knowledge of their own. It's a lot like how the Germanic bands got influenced by Rome for hundreds of years, took up their arms and ways, and fought for them for land and prosperity. It's called 'Noldorization' in a good essay about it.
Tolkien knows this and drew this parallel. While nowadays we know the Germans had their own strong culture and traditions, Tolkien was influenced a lot by Roman annals of the migration age, and it shows.
As Andreth says to Finrod-
“We may be “Children of Eru”, as ye say in your lore; but we are children
to you also: to be loved a little maybe, and yet creatures of less worth, upon
whom ye may look down from the height of your power and your knowledge,
with a smile, or with pity, or with a shaking of heads”
🙂👍
“swarthy” 🥴
You are mixing Second Age narratives with First Age narratives, and Eriador and further east with Beleriand (e.g. "the Alliance of Dwarves and Men in the North came early in the Second Age", Dwarves and Men).
Where are you getting the Easterlings as using Elephants?
I understood this as a preview to later ages - the easterlings and southlanders of the second/third age.
@@AB-gk8cs The title says "in the First Age". and the video was attributing Second Age actions in Eriador or further east as happening in the First Age in Beleriand.
@tar-elenionmaranwe1275 its not that complicated. He spends m9st 9f the video talking about the first age and previews the second age near the end.
@@mEmory______ You are right it is not that difficult. And he is attributing Second Age actions in Eriador to the First Age in Beleriand before 5 minutes is complete, such as the Alliance of Dwarves and Men, which as I quoted from Tolkien, is a Secomd Age thing....
@tar-elenionmaranwe1275 idk I don't see the issue, just because there was an alliance in the second age, doesn't mean there wasn't one in the first.
doorfs
Mostly wrong...
Listen a 2 minute ad read might not seem like much, but whwn tbe video is onky 20 minutes long, that is now 10% of the content is just an ad. Any other medium and you would be chastised.
excellent video.