Quentin Miller: I Thought Big Sean was Solid, He Tried to Play Me on Credits & Publishing (Part 17)
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
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In this clip, Quentin Miller opened up about the chance he got to work with Big Sean. He explained how things eventually went south after Quentin wasn’t initially included on the album credits for the project he worked on, not to mention Big Sean stiffing him on the communication in the process.
I think where Q goes wrong is he looks up to these artists too much. He needs to be more business savvy or have more business people savvy around him
I agree 100 percent
This is facts
Factz he comes off as to much of a fan instead of about his business
Facts
Yep
Dude definitely can't be the only one. Think about it. He's the most "famous " ghost writer in the rap game. If he's being thrown under the bus lord knows how many are underneath it with him
It's very common. Mase was ghostwriting for a LOT of rappers back in the day. Tons of rappers used ghostwriters, that's a fact.
Drake wrote for lil Wayne too
Skillz, DOC, Em, Monch, hov, Nas, etc. Are all writers who have written for others
Yup you gotta respect Quentin for having the balls to talk about it publicly though
Exactly...such a shame
I did not know he wrote for Big Sean. Damn. This dude is an animal. 🔥
He’s your favorite rappers favorite rapper.
He’s your favorite rappers favorite rapper.
He’s your favorite rappers favorite rapper.
The bars he wrote for big Sean don’t hit like the ones he wrote for Drake though
That could be a good or bad thing😂
My heart really hurts for this guy. The industry a sick place
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It’s called a business
Get your business in order
I’m met a bunch of dudes like this who do work for free because they never figured out how to do business
Make a contract unless you want people to consider you a stupid fuck
He gets some of the blame also for not getting a lawyer. He keeps getting screwed but he never gets a lawyer for any business he's doing.
This industry is also a popular contest. U can be that talented unknown artist and get taken advantage off and still won’t get any recognition unless you are “popular “ and “cool” enough for one of them to like you. It’s like lil kids in school. I feel like QM was too real and down to earth to let him in their circle. Ppl have to like you at the end of the day. Talents can only take you so far. I was in similar situation with Bone Thugs and Ruthless records back in the days.
@@MrLong-mb3pk he didn’t feel like him he needed a lawyer. He thought that he was actually cool with them. Come to find out he was another invisible and forgotten writer or producer.
They tried to play him like a studio musician, but his contributions were one of the main ingredients in those songs.
they try to play him every chance they get
And big Sean be talking that positive we building type shit
😂
He aint complaining he telling his side or truth....don't get mad because he really yall favorite rapper you didn't know...he wrote most yall favorite songs
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I’m talking giving real tea. ☹️ this was disappointing
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Dude he's been crying in every part, he is complaining and playing the victim
He gets hoed so much like damn when will you get it at this point lol
Bro seems like he's too kind hearted to be in the cut throat music business. He's being a good person and the artists are being good business people.
There aint no good businessman with no ethics, them popular rapper just being good at being evil
I dont see how not giving credit to someone who contributed to your work is good business tbh its quite the opposite
“Good business people” = stealing other peoples ideas and work ?
For Big Sean to be complaining on how Kanye did him, and he out here doing ppl the same way…. Says a lot about him (Sean)
Right !!!! Turns out they all cornballs
Facts lol
Everyone in this industry
I was thinking the same thing. Lost respect
Big Sean should be way more grateful.....Kanye took the time to listen to him as a stranger on street.
Quentin seems like a rap nerd that got the opportunity to work with some of his idols and when the rappers he was working with noticed he looked up to them they started exploiting his naivety and trust. In the entertainment industry you CANNOT trust anyone! Most of the guys he looked up to saw him as a potential rival so naturally they consconciously or subconsciously sabotaged him. He should read the 48 laws of power and get back on his grind!
Perfect comment
Absolutely 💯 % underrated comment. You nailed it.
He should have read: any fucking book
Doing things for people without mentioning what you want to be paid and then expecting to be paid will always lead to disappointment
Iv heard moron tales like this endlessly
Iv seen a dude who was singing, lead singer for a band and driving the truck, loading and unloading and setting up gear every night and someone was ‘thanks for your hard work’ and he said “it will even better when I get paid” they instantly snapped back like paid? When the fuck did we talk about pay?
They were literally laughing in his face
They figured he was doing it for free, because in the end he was.
Damn bro that's crazy I can totally see that
@@Hashdollars Yea. Knowing your value is important in any industry.
TO SEE THIS DUDE GET DONE LIKE THIS AND HE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR HITS!!!! THIS MAKES ME SO SAD... I HOPE GOD BLESS HIM TREMENDOUSLY.
Bro really could have been a young legend if he didn’t get so much hate early in his career. It sucks he had to learn how fake and hostile the music industry can be while still being so kind and considerate towards the Artist he looked up to. I hope he is at peace and will continue being creative after all of this bs. I’m a fan for life now 👌🏾🔥❤️🔥💯
dude was used by the industry soon as they found out he wrote for Drake or did reference tracks they used him for the same thing and try to ghost him
yea its sad but end of the day, its his fault. Ive been in similar situations and signed over rights to music without grasping the business end. It was my fault, i shouldnt have signed it, should have hit a laywer but i was green and needed $ so i took anything they gave me. luckily it was only master and not my publishing they got him bad smh but you live and learn...
He still here.
Facts 👋🏿👏🏿
I wonder what a world where Quentin embraced the hate and took the me vs the industry route would look like.
Of course I don’t know him but he seems like a genuinely good spirit. Unfortunately the world ain’t the same way. He gotta learn to keep his guard up.
I think entertainers get did dirty early in their career and feel that's how the game is played and adopt that mentality then turn around and do the same to naive up and coming artist, or it could be the team of people around them pushing their shiesty behavior.🤷🏾♂️
@@pipedown1246this isn’t that shiesty
Now is the time he should write an album about his experiences. He would shake up the game for real!
If it was 2016 I would agree
And be a 🎯
He need to ether everybody
He already tried and failed
@@drastic357 link?
Big Sean is the whole focal point of this video that we just completely miss the part where he says he did Blessings. I remember that hook was legendary when it came out. And now it makes sense it came from Q. In fact I always thought Believe Me by Lil Wayne, the Drake hook sounded like Q too. Wouldn't doubt it. Q really did ghostwrite several hits in that era we ain't ever know about 🤫
The hook is common. Anyone could’ve came up with it. You acting like it was profound 😭
@@mlkt8550 Man all I remember was my and my boys were singing "Im WAAAAAYYY up I feel blessed!" Those inflections were poppin back then, Young Thug -esque era 2014-15
It was a stupid Hook but I get your point.
@@mlkt8550 Then why aren't you rich and famous making catchy hooks if it's so easy? What a clown
A kid could have wrote that hook. Come on now
Yall are really attacking this man for speaking his truth. This industry is a mess. Much respect to QM.
all the people who attack know nothing about the industry and music....they think you suppose to do things for free
Man I've been a huge fan of Sean since the Finally Famous mixtapes and I hate to hear this story. Q went through a lot and it's crazy because he's obviously talented at what he does. Hip hop just has a terrible relationship with "ghost"writing or getting help. I feel like if you're gonna get help with bars or flows then let it be known. What's done in the dark always comes to the light.
He is the only who played himself. He’s so gullible
shut up😂😂😂😂
Why doesn’t QM sue these artists? Sounds like he wasn’t paid at all
I knew SOMEBODY was writing for Big Sean cuz he got good outta nowhere
😂😂the most hit or miss nigga in the game, makes sense now
Lmao one he talking about writing hooks for big Sean not actual verses and helping him on different flows lmao and this is from blessing which is what 2015 lmao like ya say anything and it’s sad
@@MadMaxTopShottaDrake sung hook blessings Quentin for sure wrote Sean verse
Nah, that Blessings verse from Sean sounded like what I thinl Drake sounds like. So this makes sense @@MadMaxTopShotta
The problem is they think he soft.. if he start slappin the shit outta them.. they’ll act right
Facts
I appreciate Miller for being so honest about his situation.
tell the true majority of the time in life...i know we humans gonna lie but most of the time its good to be real like QM did in this interview
Took damn near 10 yrs of him denying everything for him to finally come clean
@@jaahnnn that’s the most fucked up part
He seem like a genuine dude. Guess music industry ain't the place for that.
Wow Big Sean tried to throw Ye under the bus but he out here doing the same thing 😂😂😂😂
Ye started that to be fair, and owes him 5 million. I guess Crediting Qm wasn't in the budget when your boss fucking you over lol
Quentin is prime example of why you need charisma and a personality to be a big artist.
😂 swear
😂😂😂😂😂
Charisma yes. People can fake personality
Nah he just too real industry want ya to leave that being real ish in the past and lie to the ppl its all a dawm scam tbh
I'm confused I don't mean this in a negative way. I support this young black brother in all his future endeavors. But what does he do for rappers that they can't do for them selfs? There capable of compusing good music them selves. I understand the ghostwriter logic . But somebody please explain
Quentin’s problem isn’t him being soft or not from the streets but a victim of horrible management or lack there of. If he had respected & connected representation be it in the music industry, streets or both, artists wouldn’t play with him like that on the business end.
Something don't add up fr.
His biggest issue is his lack of business savy, most of this stuff you can handle on your own by sticking to paperwork and contracts but it sounds like he did alot of homeboy handshake deals which are void in the court of law.
Being soft is his biggest issue. The music industry and Hollywood is like high school. How many smart nerdy guys got finessed into doing the cool kids homework for free ? Same here.
@@RatBastard701 Yeah it's completely his own fault, he's a dummy and got finessed. He should hold himself accountable and learn from his mistakes and keep it moving. Welcome to business.
He need Suge knight
He's a nice guy and that keeps getting taken advantage of.
It's always people with the biggest hearts that feel hurt the most
How has he gotten this far without a lawyer? He should keep some of this to himself
Right!
Facts usually lawyers be banging on your door for situations like these …these are some high powered artists …i feel like theres still a bag left on the table but idk man
His Probably A Person That You Can Easily Finnese Thoe . Dude Went Thru Alot Cause He Ain't Realize His Potential .
That's exactly how it got that far...soon as u start askin reasonable questions the distance comes
Some might disagree but I feel like it’s something he doing for reason behind everyone else actions . He only telling one side
QM should publish his own list of songs he worked on. Because he wrote some bangers.
“Be careful of which role you play in someone’s life because they will eventually have a story to tell” - Erica Dinero
Wish this guy the best, the music game can be tiresome with all the shady ppl
People like him get taken advantage of because their soft spoken and don’t involve themselves in no drama. I just wish he would’ve had knowledge about the music business before he started writing songs for people💯🙏🏾
No it’s because he does not have business savvy
That is why it is called the music BUSINESS...if you mess up in the business department..it will be a struggle.
It’s not about being soft or being unproblematic, you gotta know the business and READ paperwork! The reason he never had the upper hand is because he never negotiated on the business side at first hand. He was being led by false promises
Nah bruh I am very upfront and people especially black people will take advantage of you (probably because of drug addiction/greed) and they just take advantage of you when you don’t even put into perspective they’re a piece of shit.
people have no fucking clue what this man has been through. You know what it is to be working with th top artist in the game to being blackballed and evrything going to shit over something you had NOTHING TO DO WITH!! If that shit would of happend to anybody else that person would probaly be hooked on drugs or dead by now. The fact is Quentin Miler saved Drake's career by taking his side in the beef and Quentin hasnt been properly compesated for that. Drake has to make that shit right with that nigga
Man I felt his pain in trying to spit out what he wanted to say, good people are hard to come by and this further proves it. Bless you QM 🙏🏾
He should already know to not trust any of those artists by now. Verbal promises don’t mean nothing if it’s not already sealed in black and white. 👌🏾
Saying Big Sean is one of the best to ever do it is wildddd
Thats crazy . He's not even top tier .
I searched for this comment LOL
Nah he kinda is but that's your opinion nigga he one of ma favorite rappers
@@tyrushbk FOH it’s not an opinion matter , Wayne kanye Eminem either you like them or not are some
Of the best to ever do it, Sean is not nowhere near, he had dark sky paradise and Detroit and that’s it.
@@keezemojito1278 Detroit 2 lyrically is better than DSP so idk what your taking about and that album was fire, so was the finally famous mixtapes and what you expect with HB. Yes it’s opinions sean is talented
How does this dude not have an attorney? Why is he chasing down credits and royalties?
The industry is notorious for not paying out, even on signed contracts they don’t rush to pay you
You seem real genuine and you’re very talented. You will get your big break cream will eventually rise to the top don’t give up. 4:20
If he’s responsible for the work we have heard then the game is an embodiment of him during a period which I’m sure given his time and effort played a part in molding the theme of now so in hide sight, qm is a godfather in many aspects. I hope this gives him the recognition he deserves.
I feel like he's attracting what's happening to him. He constantly seeks pity from people and feels bad for himself. "Look at me my life was so hard and everyone screwed me over". It's a self fulfilling prophecy and just attracts more of what he focuses on (reticular activation system). He obviously can't say no and is a people pleaser, and puts himself into these situations. He should hold himself accountable and learn from his mistakes rather than bring people down. I've known people like this, they let themselves get used all the time and become so bitter they can't be happy for anyone else. Don't fall into his narrative and pay attention to how he talks about others.
Exactly!!!
Agreed
What does Quentin being naive have to do with the industry being filled with two-faced weirdos.
Both things can be true, and the only ways to avoid it is to become two faced yourself or avoid the industry.
Yea the more parts that come out it’s starting to become a self problem the more i hear him … the only situation I feel for him is how that Drake situation played out … but hopefully he learned just take the cash if ya business ain’t situated right
Could be he is good at the creative side of things but not experienced enough on the business end. Listening to him talk he doesn’t sound the sharpest cat out there with this rap shit…it would kill me to write great songs for other people and then never be able get your own shit jumping. That has to fuck with people in that scenario…also I don’t agree with people using ghost writers. If you can’t write your own shit you should not be rapping. Simple as that. It’s called rap or lip syncing.
He took the ghost out of ghost writer. In all seriousness, Sean gotta fix that.
if i was quentin, big sean gonna have to run that fade doing some bs like that. i want all the smoke
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Facts lol you play me like that we gotta run the fade on sight 🤣🤣🤣
He needs to get a manager and stop being friends with these people. He’s too fucking friendly. That’s his fucking problem. I can just tell by his fucking tone. He’s friendly as fuck. He needs to cut that shit out. And get himself a manager. So managers could talk within each other. This man is a whole artist.
Damn I knew Sean was never a real one since the beginning, no man acts like that he a weirdo
When someone gets played as much as this, it means they are stupid
Thank you! He’s a sucker lol
He didn't really get played. Just unlucky, who could have predicted Meek would do what he did.
One word: attorney
Not stupid maybe just a genuinely good person and fucked up people take advantage of that.
Yea James you wouldnt get played by the elites right? u way to smart even tho u out here with us peaseants watching youtube videos of theese ”dumb” ppl…
That’s crazy QM seams like a really good dude you can tell he wears his heart
Another example of how the nice guy always finish last. That’s why you gotta let ya nuts hang on these devils
Imma need Sean to respond to this.
It seems like allot of artist didn’t want Quentin name attached to them because of the ghostwriting controversy with drake…..
But they want the pen tho, just no the face, and the only reason they want the pen is because of drake so it’s tricky, he’s like a kryptonite but you need him.
Bring this man back. His pen 🖊 is strong AF.
Mannnnnnn he needs an therapist and a lawyer
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A lawyer, key word! Been in the game this long and still getting finessed 😒
No lie this a good balance
It’s simple young bro you gotta be willing to live or die behind what’s yours and stand on good business
Damn man. Quentin Miller is like...the red-headed stepchild of hip-hop. They did him so dirty for no reason when all he's done is just be great.
there are 100s of Quentin Miller's being used, hes not the only one.
I hate hearing stories like this for real, it’s all good when it’s a struggle, but soon as the bag come in you get hustled.
I'm so happy he's coming out and saying what really goes on in the music industry! Do you think these rappers really mess with these new up and coming artists? No they don't! They mess with them because they're trying to grab the new flow the new style! That's it! Not for the love not trying to help it's to Jack the new style and swag! Drake is notorious for this. They are already hot artists they're just messing with you for a new innovation new motivation and to learn some new styles and trends. They do not care about you they only care about what you can do for them!
The industry saw his potential and did not let him have see the light of day
This man deserves his flower plus more , he put that work in he deserves the credit and the financial gain from it , prays to you my brother
2 things
1 this is one side of the story we need both to make a conclusion.
2 he can only blame himself he did the work without doing the paperwork 1st then feels a type of way u just meeting people u can’t expect them to do anything but what’s best for them rns.
He should write a book at this point
Quentin just keep it moving fam💯👍
Damn bro, I’m glad I’m hearing these stories cuz I’m on the cusp and I see how you gotta move w these niggas, it ain’t no “it’s for the love” type shi, this game cold
Q gotta start slapping dudes. You whoop 1 person ass and the rest will fall in line
His stories don’t add up and he tells them in a way that leaves out so much
Good guys never get treated fairly. No matter the situation.
The amount you have to fight in the arts is crazy.
Damn the whole industry just crapped on this man 🤦🏿♂️ he deserves his just do!!
QM been my favorite artist for a few years now. A lot of songs you don’t even need to check the credits, if you know Q’s flow you know where he put his mark. Blessed being one of em, the G-Eazy joint is so obvious too. Been trying to work with QM for so long. Never gonna give up.
I see a lot of ppl feel for him and wonder why he isn’t big in the industry. Every single of you actually can make this guy blow by sharing his music by just showing support . But i bet y’all won’t do that and y’all act like you care about this man’s career like that lol it’s funny to me yall have the power to make this man blow up
A passionate guy, a good guy that these fools took advantage of, its a nasty place. smh
Never go into business with your Heart ❤️ specially when it involves other individuals.. specially in the music industry
I can’t believe this nigga big Sean did to him like that I really loved that song blessed he wrote that shit and they didn’t give him the credits 😮
Damnnn I feel so bad for this guy
Can’t be a fan boy Q , you should be living as good if not better 💯
A damn shame how they did this talented guy with such a pure heart
I ain’t never heard no shit like this. He really could capitalize on a book. He deserves some notoriety and acclaim. He got chewed and swallowed by the industry. He earned his 💐 with this one. Big ups to Vlad!
I want to know, and surprised Vlad didn’t ask, about what exactly did Quentin wrote on these songs: Did he just do the hooks, wrote the verses, gave the rappers ideas on what to write etc?
Crazy thing, dude really seem like he hella genuine and works cuz he love it. Them opportunities just get sour cuz if the Sucka shit the industry be on smh
If that was around the time of the Drake controversy it makes sense that many other artists would later distance themselves from Q even if they worked together on music.
That boy blessed individuals. Point blank period!
2 things are immortal FACTS..... Father time & Karma is UNDEFEATED.... Those that played him gone most definitely experience some form of KARMA....& The first thing they gone be trying to figure out is "WHY THIS HAPPENING TO ME"..... BIG FACTS
Gods going to bless him it's all about timing and he's going to open the door for a lot other genuine people when God promotes him it's all a test , so he want never do to others what people have done to him.
Rule #1 in the entertainment industry: Trust yourself with your business long before you let "relationships" dictate how you should appropriately handle your business
Left me on read left me on read 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This is why a Suge Knight existed. Once people realize Quentin is a push over, the disrespect walks in. Only because the amount time he spends around them, they can see he doesn't have someone that will fight for him.
People not your friend! Until proven through time and actions. Friend, Bro, Fam, Love is not to be thrown around lightly.
Crazy how 99% of your favorite rappers don’t create their own work….always more behind the curtain
Yea most get help but that doesn’t mean they’re not steering their ship
It almost sounds like he was being passed around like they was running a train pause lol
He's the kid your mom told you to go play with eventhough you didn't want to. Then he told on you and you realized why you didn't want to in the first place
😂😂😂😂😂
💯💯 🤣 I can see this
damn... this man QM really got disrespected so many times shit is wild...
I hate how they did this guy man .. I wish I had power in the music game I would lift this brother up
Dang ghostwriters don't get no love from these rappers get used and abused
“Left me on read.. left me on read..” 😂
Q story has showed me a lot ALoT of these dudes aren’t real
Blessings, Sean's big radio hit that was the lead single off his album!? What an injustice.
That was the second hit actually, IDFWU was the first
Damn! The whole industry so phony because Drake literally stole Big Seans flow on multiple songs, the biggest one being “Forever” back in 2009, when Drake admitted to it, Big Sean wasn’t fucking with him for years, it wasn’t until 2013 where they reconciled and collaborated on “All Me”. But for Big Sean to act Hollywood, and not give Quentin his propers, he basically did the same shit Drake did to him, just in a different way. Fuck the music business 🤦🏿♂️
Pretty much all y’all favorite rappers .. QM be in the studio helping them 🤣
Everything bro has said so far just shows how exploitative the music industry is. His whole story is filled with people either trying to take advantage or bully him, no loyalty or respect at all for him. This is sad.
That's why people say its never personal only business . You always demand business first instead of trying to make friend
In the words of Big Ak “PICK UP A STICK” Quentin all these niggas do is play with ya 🤣
this dude is the master of messed up paperwork. know your worth!
This guy got played by everybody got damn .
damn... he wuz really out here writtin for ya favorite rappers favorite rapper SHEEESHHH