@@mlamont235 they are kinda lame, there are way better out there with less financial backing, meaning without digging in the crates you as a pop rap listener will never hear em
Nice documentary but Kendrick didn’t not start the trends with skits telling an albums story. That’s MOST of the albums from the 90s he brought it back
Lol look at what happened just now with the kendrick verse on metro album. The album overall is solid and metro continues to solify himself as one of the best of this generation, but all anybody wanna talk about is kendrick sending shots 😭
You didn’t mention that right after the release, Big Sean heard the verse, and he had an urge to go back in the booth and make his verse better but he didn’t, cause he was proud of it all. He let the whole thing rock
In hindsight when I listen to that “Control” song Kendrick did have the best verse. But ALL 3 of those guys WENT CRAZY. I hate that Sean and Jay Electronica verses didn’t get the respect they deserve. That was just truly an all around amazing song and moment in Hip-Hop.
@@jjeverest0 that's not at all what I said, dont make stuff up, learn to read. I quoted from the video, watch the part of the video, Ito point out he said "aid". Lay off the weed bro.
Good documentary, but the Kendrick bias is heavy. Kendrick didnt "wash" Sean on Control. Both of them had good verses. One of them just did a call out which garnered more attention. And then Kendrick almost "ended Sean's career?" Cmon now. Those bars were barely jabs😂
its impossible man, no man can destroy another rapper's career, no soul can destroyyou except you allow it. if big sean was popping great albums or records who will even be talking about kendricks disses. @@overlord6815
Facts..so many people were triggered by Kendrick's disses..bro was just playing..everybody know he's one of the greatest lyricists of all time and it's not even up for debate.
@@79pedI’m not saying Big Sean doesn’t have some heat but it’s laughable to take him as serious as Kendrick especially when it was 7 years ago Big Sean’s catalog wasn’t that strong
Also, you are very young if you think Kendrick started the “skits” trend on albums. That was always common, but it got unpopular or maybe too time consuming for rappers in the modern era.
You totally skipped big seans big bidness where he mentioned “nobody sonning me if I am a son I’m the one you look up to, fuck you” Which was a response to the heart part 4
wait... did this guy actually say that Kendrick started the trend of people having skits on albums? has he... ever listened to a 90s or 2000s rap album?
Yes Kendrick was one of the first. Heres why.. you have to listen. He said "around this time".. meaning Kendrick was one of the first to bring back the trend around the time. Name 5 mainstream rappers from 2010-2012 or even the few years before 2010 that heavily had skits on their album. Thats what he means. He not saying no one in the 90s did it. Hes saying Kendrick heavily brought the trend back around that time because we hadnt really seen it done in a while
@@googlee8882Every Ludacris album lol The most recent one around the era that you just listed was Theater of the Mind in '08. Let's not forget that GKMC was a 2012 release but was probably written beforehand when other artist were doing skits lol
As i get older i see how rappers with a different perspective and depth can get outshined by a lot of flashing lights. Each time i listen to control, i've rewound each rappers verse, and each contribute awesome bars. its not necessary to diminish one verse over another because one of the verse was in attack mode. All three verses were fire in "Control."
Watching this make me realize that the 2010's was the last great decade to be a rap fan. Alot of rappers in that time striving to be the best. Now in the 2020's the rap game is completely dry and there's no new generational artist that's coming up.
You talking underground, sure there's some great hip hop in the underground scene. Mainstream hip hop on the other hand is completely dead. Not just hip-hop but the music industry in general. There's a lot of UA-cam videos on hip hop saying the same thing. We are 4 years into the new decade and the hip-hop scene has completely changed.
2022 was alright, but it don't compare for me to 2015, 2016 and 2018 those were the greatest years of the 2010's. And I don't think those times can't be replicated. The big 3( Drake, Kendrick & Cole) are last the rap superstars. I personally think there will never be another rap superstar in these modern times.
Heart Part 4 dropped 1 week before Humble bro! I remember cause he cleared his instagram and put up the IV cover for it. Humble came afterwards, so that would have been the second jab if it is one at all, not the first
Nipsey was a friend of Kendrick. They've known each other since around 2006-2007 when they were traveling together. Nip and Sean knew each other since 2008. When nipsey died in 2019, big sean and nip were already working on the song Deep Reverence. After nip passed, sean recorded his 2nd verse on the track, not long after. Big Sean talked to joe on Feb 2020 and said that he reached out to kendrick after nip died to connect once again. People tought he was downplaying the beef. He released Deep Reverence on March 2020 which he talked about the kendrick beef in his 2nd verse. After the song released, sean said kendrick reached out to him and they talked again. I think they dont have beef no more and resolved what happened.
@@jjeverest0 that was not even close to the point I was making tho, idk how you got that out of skits from the 90's and 2000's being after kendrik lol go to english class bro
Big Sean humble and unproblematic. I like Kendrick but the Beef towards him wouldn't be a satisfying battle because Sean doesn't really see why the beef is even happening and why. I would rather see Kendrick go after ones that take shots at him and wants a battle
The Control verse wasn’t really a diss. But it definitely alienated Kendrick and caused beef from the two guys he’s on the record with. Plus diss bars from Mac Miller and Big KRIT. It even cause some subliminal shots between Cole and Kendrick and can’t forget Drake and I think Lupe joined in as well with afew bars 😂
@@yusifudo46 the king of each coast bars made NY people upset. It was a big moment that generated a lot of buzz that couldn’t go unanswered if you were a prideful MC
@@michaelbarnes2126but he didn't tell a lie. Kendrick would smoke any of them except J Cole. Cole is a serious problem for any MC, and he liked the challenging nature of his bars.
Quick fact check. Kendrick was not the first to either use or make popular skits on an album. Artists were doing this long before Kendrick was even born. To make it easy though, Dr. Dre's Chronic II album has skits, and that came out long before Kendrick did.
These bloggers and the internet make everything worse. If Big Sean wasn’t offended at first then he wasnt… he didnt care until the people starting egging on foolish ness
Exactly lmao, this dude said people were shocked that control didn’t end up on hof when he LITERALLY said the same day that it dropped that he couldn’t clear the sample in time
Any dudes that got mad about it were soft. He literally said he’s got love for them, and being mentioned shows that you were competition. That’s a compliment in itself.
ngl the kendrick sucking is STRONG af. most rappers take shots at rappers in general, or hype themselves, and even if there was a level rivalry it 10000% sounds like fans like this youtuber just wanted to see the beef. “u deprived us as fans of an amazing back and forth” lmfao yeah okay and yeah the kdot leaks werent really good. his delivery would be what saved it. what could have been a “cool” rivalry became just an annoying moment. u can have kendrick in your top 5/3/2 whatevs but imo jcol/drake/sean just like big bro to him..they dont have to “match” him cuz they really shaped hip hop going fwd
@@matjr331I don't think Kendrick's verse was all that brutal. It's not bad, but it's too nice to be considered polarizing or even a diss in the first place. Don't get how it made people so upset.
@@earljohnson2613 when people say battle rap talking about Mainstream rappers they are talking about diss tracks i think. But yea, most if not all of them would get smoked by actual battle rappers from URL RBE and KOTD.
Kendrick didn't really diss them, he just let them know he was here and he's a damn problem lol. Ice Cube on the other hand and Tupac are a tie for greatest actual diss tracks in my opinion.
Two problems from the control verse::: 1. He did not murder these rappers, they still relevant. 2. These rappers' core fans are still bumping/ listening to these rappers.
@@episode1439how he fall off? Cause Morale wasn't Damn pt 2 and nothing but bangers that every track charts and gets certified? Believe it or not some people do the music for the art and not to accumulate Spotify streams and be in tiktok videos lmao.
saying kendrick started “skits” is crazy, i’m a huge kendrick fan but what about em’s skits on the mmlp, relapse, etc. and i’m not even gonna say em started them but saying kendrick did is indeed crazy.
I never did believe Control was left off the album because of sample issues but Heart Part IV sharing a sample doesn't mean anything. Kendrick had way more pull in 2017 than Sean did in 2013, he'd have an easier time clearing samples regardless.
Me personally i think the beef was both real and fake. On one hand you got someone so serious about climbing the latter in the rap game as fast as possible while the other one writing rhymes just for fun because he just enjoys writing music. Don't want to say Kendrick was just bullying because he was literally the new kid on the block. But if i was big sean i would not have even thrown not one shot because I'd see that i was worthy enough to be called out as one of the greatest rappers in the game to be mentioned and just respect. But thats just me i guess.
Bro Kendrick has always been very competitive and made it clear that he wants to be the best rapper alive. Calling these folks out by name really doesn't mean shit. I understand the videos are based off of there being actual drama but I think it's just a hungry rapper that wants to be the best. They should all have that mentality and have at some point. Called out their idols and competitors by name
@ramsescano5622 he fell off to me, I'm not part of the rest of the world IDGAF about this world or the collective consciousness so everything that you motherfuckers think is cool or normal I despise & don't really give a fuck about that shit I view everything different than a normal man
Just a heads up for what was mentioned near the end - copyright strikes for music are usually tied to the beat of the song, not the lyrics. They're also usually handled by the label rather than the artist, and even that is not usually done directly by them, but by a method called "audio fingerprints" (any musicians that use services like Distrokid can verify this - platforms like Twitch, UA-cam, and Instagram use similar methods to automatically know when you use somebody's music in your uploads as well). So yeah, dude that leaked that verse getting a copyright strike doesn't necessarily make that "Element" verse real, it just means the beat triggered the system enough for a strike to be issued, especially with how fast it spread.
Honestly rappers start or maintain their beefs on their own yes. But 90% of the time it’s the fabs the start and maintain it because we typically make comparisons of one rapper to another. Kendrick wasn’t starting no beef, he was literally shaking up the rap game and was successful at doing so. But people only focused on Big Sean because it was his song but nobody really spoke about other rappers responding. This “beef” is honestly on the fans.
The supposed "tweets" from most rappers are them acknowledging that someone who is respected in the rap game called the dame people out that he was collaborating with in a team player attitude. None of that was beef. Some took it personally for sure but those tweets showed how much everyone appreciated having a fire lit under them to get them to show why they had earned a name in the first place. The only real beef Kendrick might have is with drake tbh. But we can save that for another day.
Yall gotta pay attention ..... Big Sean started dissing *FIRST* by dropping 4th Quarter Freestyle in 2014, then the rest followed. Mac Miller also responded to Kendrick on "Here We Go" off the *FACES* album.
I wish these guys would actually just name each other in disses instead of this subliminal shit. Trying to figure out whether these guys are dissing or not is annoying as hell.
Right. Probably why the Story of Adidon was one of the more memorable diss tracks in recent memory imo. Can’t remember if he says Drake’s name specifically….but there wasn’t shit left to dissect when that track ended 😂 you know exactly what was said and who it was directed to (not to mention the cover art)
@@ShrimplessScampi He DID name drop Drake! "Marriage is something that Sandi never had DRAKE! How you a winner but she keep coming in last place?" Name dropped his MOM too!
“This is especially weird for someone like Kendrick Lamar who really stays to himself and avoids the politics of being a rapper in the modern era” And then proceed to talk about how Control bodied Sean & Everybody being called out blatantly 😭😭😭 Bit of a miss w that take Lou ! 🤣💯🙏🏽
Id say Kendrick had a bad person in his ear. And Kendrick is also a very competitive person who has a hard time trusting people to reconcile (said as much on Father Time). Big Sean on the other hand, is a pretty calm and collected guy. He doesnt take things to heart like that, but the Control questions were getting in thw way of his art. Which us why he seemed to hate talking about Kendrick but still claims there was no issues. But he just kept gettng better with cosigns from Ye, Eminem, Lil Wayne etc. which may have made a classical lyricist like Kendrick a little annoyed. Unstoppable force -> Immovable object
The control verse was controversial more than a diss song. I would be offended if he didn’t mention me if I’m considering myself one of the goats of my generation.
Drake has f'ed over several artists before and after Kendrick. Say what you want about the Big Sean thing, though it wasn't really that bad, but don't defend Drake like he's innocent.
How does every youtuber just completely ignore the „i got love for you all“ before „but im tryna murder you, make sure your corefans never heard of you“? Nobody besides Drake took that line seriously and knew it was just an exaggeration in means of the competetiveness of kendrick. That line doesnt shake up anything, it even puts respect on all the names he dropped.
True but it's still an official release, I had to reupload this video cuz the Heart Pt. 4 part was being copyrighted by the original owners. Had to reduce the length to make it fair use
It’s so funny bc take the controversy out and how many bars separate the control verses really? Big Sean was going in too he just didn’t diss the whole rap game
@@dynamic3708 it wasn’t really a diss but that’s how the culture took it. Between the controversy and rappers getting in there feelings that was the big story. But bar for bar Sean had a really good verse too my point wasn’t really about the “diss”
Bro this is only my 2nd time watching one of your videos (after the reason one) and I have to say this was not enjoyable. Your titles are clickbait, you never leave up an article or quote long enough to be read so the video then has to be paused and rewinded to be read (and this is constant) and throughout the ENTIRE VIDEO all you do is hint to things that will be said "in a minute" or later on in the video. This wasn't even a deep dive, just mentions of what was already known..
Bro, you’re reading way too much into this… Hip-hop is a competitive sport when Kendrick was saying he wanted to murder them. He wanted to murder them on the beat. This is not anything new. Every rapper goes through this. Go through hip-hop history. This happens once every 10 years.
All these cats be getting in thier feelings, it's Mcing Microphone controlling, when you got the mic, you (have to control it) period the media reads too much into it because they don't do music, it's like looking at abstract picture and not being the actual artist not really understanding the picture
In all honesty that's HIP HOP. Every song or lyric is a flex of skills and mental intellect. That some people can relate to an cause others to think about on a deeper level or on a higher level. Artist want to be the best in their craft an in their field it's almost like samurai challenging others to be the best. And for some of the artists get they get stronger while others fade away to other fields of interest to them.
Big Sean is so unproblematic. One of the most chill rappers. Him, Wiz Khalifa, 2chainz etc.. they just be chilling. Never really in no scandals
Big Sean with no problems? Wtf? Naw haha cap for sure
You just named 3 of the lamest rappers ever lol.
@@smokythecameraman if you think those 3 are lame, then your opinion already is invalid. Anything else you say is irrelevant after this
@@smokythecameramanHonestly agree, besides 2 Chainz. He's got a smoothness about his flow that I really like.
@@mlamont235 they are kinda lame, there are way better out there with less financial backing, meaning without digging in the crates you as a pop rap listener will never hear em
Nice documentary but Kendrick didn’t not start the trends with skits telling an albums story. That’s MOST of the albums from the 90s he brought it back
Lil Wayne been doing it before Kendrick
people been doing it since before lilwayne. sticky fingaz album black trash is the greatest example of it@@sleepyblue8
facts.
Thank you. This shit was super popular in the 90s and early 2000s. Eminem and Cam'ron both come to mind. I'm sure there's hundreds of other examples
Think it was de la soul who started it
I don’t blame big Sean for leaving that song off the album. The whole album woulda just been viewed from the control verse from Kendrick.
exactly, its his album, it works much better as a single
@@cjpack I feel the same way. What if he put it on the deluxe, all this wouldve happened
You a fool. This went over they heads 😂🤣😂
Whack move. Some of these dudes can’t calm themselves rappers if they can’t handle competition. Mfs soft these days.
Lol look at what happened just now with the kendrick verse on metro album. The album overall is solid and metro continues to solify himself as one of the best of this generation, but all anybody wanna talk about is kendrick sending shots 😭
You didn’t mention that right after the release, Big Sean heard the verse, and he had an urge to go back in the booth and make his verse better but he didn’t, cause he was proud of it all. He let the whole thing rock
In hindsight when I listen to that “Control” song Kendrick did have the best verse. But ALL 3 of those guys WENT CRAZY. I hate that Sean and Jay Electronica verses didn’t get the respect they deserve. That was just truly an all around amazing song and moment in Hip-Hop.
EXACTLY man like what 🤦🏾♂️😂 Electronica’s verse was beautiful.. excellent outro
Jay and Big Sean’s verse went crazy on that song they got overshadowed by Kendrick calling out names
Wipe the semen off your lips
If Sean continued this we might be getting “Meet the Andersons”
😂😂😂😂
Only thing is kendrick can't rap with sean....by a good bit
@@Kenuwine24 holy troll
Kendrick did not start the trend of putting skits in rap albums… 😂
he says that "aid in telling the story" since that album in its entirety has a theme vs just being funny or articulating the meaning of one song.
Supreme Clientele? Every newer rapper has pulled inspiration from someone before them
@@Betterthanyofyou so by that logic, kendrick is the first rapper to tell a story in an album too lol
Fr skits have been a part of rap albums since the dinosaurs
@@jjeverest0 that's not at all what I said, dont make stuff up, learn to read. I quoted from the video, watch the part of the video, Ito point out he said "aid". Lay off the weed bro.
Good documentary, but the Kendrick bias is heavy. Kendrick didnt "wash" Sean on Control. Both of them had good verses. One of them just did a call out which garnered more attention. And then Kendrick almost "ended Sean's career?" Cmon now. Those bars were barely jabs😂
Two things can be true at once. Big Sean had a good verse but Kendrick did was him
Kendrick washed big Sean in DAMN , if you know , you know
Hot take: Kendrick was my least favorite verse on it.
@@interviewwithdevin2902Me when my music taste sucks
And he just likes your comment without doing shit lol
Fun fact: Mac actually did write those adjective bars lol
RIP Larry ❤️
Destroy big sean's career? Damn man, you guys can really blow things up😂
You act like it's impossible to do.
its impossible man, no man can destroy another rapper's career, no soul can destroyyou except you allow it.
if big sean was popping great albums or records who will even be talking about kendricks disses. @@overlord6815
This channel is so bad. The clickbait bull shit is so corny
whos big sean?
This guys losing credibility with his biased views and idiotic jabs throughout the video.
As a Kendrick fan, that Big Sean diss was light. If it came out and Big Sean were to respond, Kendrick would have responded harder.
That’s what they are baits
I said that it would’ve been a pusha/drake type hit at that time
Facts..so many people were triggered by Kendrick's disses..bro was just playing..everybody know he's one of the greatest lyricists of all time and it's not even up for debate.
100%
The amount of Kdot bias in this video while trashing on Sean☠️ when the 2 ain’t even beefing like that
They’re not beefing at all anymore. They squashed it years ago
Big Sean is nothing - and never been. The "Kendrick bias" is for a reason; he's the goat
@@79ped please big Sean just ate his plate with the songs he just DROPPED 😳
@@79pedI’m not saying Big Sean doesn’t have some heat but it’s laughable to take him as serious as Kendrick especially when it was 7 years ago Big Sean’s catalog wasn’t that strong
@@JayaveofficialIf a Big Sean song drops and nobody cares, does it make a sound?
Also, you are very young if you think Kendrick started the “skits” trend on albums. That was always common, but it got unpopular or maybe too time consuming for rappers in the modern era.
You totally skipped big seans big bidness where he mentioned “nobody sonning me if I am a son I’m the one you look up to, fuck you”
Which was a response to the heart part 4
shit ass bro
wait... did this guy actually say that Kendrick started the trend of people having skits on albums? has he... ever listened to a 90s or 2000s rap album?
I was just about to comment about that. I stopped watching after that comment. That was crazy
Yes Kendrick was one of the first. Heres why.. you have to listen. He said "around this time".. meaning Kendrick was one of the first to bring back the trend around the time. Name 5 mainstream rappers from 2010-2012 or even the few years before 2010 that heavily had skits on their album. Thats what he means. He not saying no one in the 90s did it. Hes saying Kendrick heavily brought the trend back around that time because we hadnt really seen it done in a while
@@googlee8882Every Ludacris album lol The most recent one around the era that you just listed was Theater of the Mind in '08.
Let's not forget that GKMC was a 2012 release but was probably written beforehand when other artist were doing skits lol
@@Braillionaire bro you just said Ludacris😂😂😂
@@googlee8882 Go back and listen... He used skits more than Kendrick even lol And his skits were HILARIOUS lol
As i get older i see how rappers with a different perspective and depth can get outshined by a lot of flashing lights. Each time i listen to control, i've rewound each rappers verse, and each contribute awesome bars. its not necessary to diminish one verse over another because one of the verse was in attack mode. All three verses were fire in "Control."
so true
I actually agree with you completely 🙂🙂
Watching this make me realize that the 2010's was the last great decade to be a rap fan. Alot of rappers in that time striving to be the best. Now in the 2020's the rap game is completely dry and there's no new generational artist that's coming up.
You talking underground, sure there's some great hip hop in the underground scene. Mainstream hip hop on the other hand is completely dead. Not just hip-hop but the music industry in general. There's a lot of UA-cam videos on hip hop saying the same thing. We are 4 years into the new decade and the hip-hop scene has completely changed.
2022 was alright, but it don't compare for me to 2015, 2016 and 2018 those were the greatest years of the 2010's. And I don't think those times can't be replicated. The big 3( Drake, Kendrick & Cole) are last the rap superstars. I personally think there will never be another rap superstar in these modern times.
Production is so amazing nowadays. Give the kids some time to adjust.
@@jessindeednot really? Mainstream rap is intensely simplistic and mediocre
@@ytyoungrichnhigh I didn't see the rap was good. I'm talking about beats and sound engineering.
Heart Part 4 dropped 1 week before Humble bro! I remember cause he cleared his instagram and put up the IV cover for it. Humble came afterwards, so that would have been the second jab if it is one at all, not the first
Oh good catch 😅 that does change a few things
Big Sean verse on On Everything didnt drop til after DAMN and HUMBLE came out too btw@@louaista
Nipsey was a friend of Kendrick. They've known each other since around 2006-2007 when they were traveling together.
Nip and Sean knew each other since 2008.
When nipsey died in 2019, big sean and nip were already working on the song Deep Reverence. After nip passed, sean recorded his 2nd verse on the track, not long after.
Big Sean talked to joe on Feb 2020 and said that he reached out to kendrick after nip died to connect once again. People tought he was downplaying the beef.
He released Deep Reverence on March 2020 which he talked about the kendrick beef in his 2nd verse. After the song released, sean said kendrick reached out to him and they talked again.
I think they dont have beef no more and resolved what happened.
That’s awesome
Fr I choose this over beef. That’s beautiful 👌🏾
As a Kendrick fan, The meat ridding is a bit too deep. To be fair to Sean, his verse was great.
To clarify skits were very popular in the 90s and 2000’s but by the 2010s people had steered away from them until Kendrick released GKMC
How? Mad projects had skits before Kendrick wtf
@@Revengex19999 they didnt really add to a narritive of the overall album from albums in that year.
@@Betterthanyofyou what artists after good kid used skits to add to a narrative?
@@jjeverest0 tyler, vince, frank and every underground mixtape after
@@jjeverest0 that was not even close to the point I was making tho, idk how you got that out of skits from the 90's and 2000's being after kendrik lol go to english class bro
Big Sean humble and unproblematic. I like Kendrick but the Beef towards him wouldn't be a satisfying battle because Sean doesn't really see why the beef is even happening and why. I would rather see Kendrick go after ones that take shots at him and wants a battle
The Control verse wasn’t really a diss. But it definitely alienated Kendrick and caused beef from the two guys he’s on the record with. Plus diss bars from Mac Miller and Big KRIT. It even cause some subliminal shots between Cole and Kendrick and can’t forget Drake and I think Lupe joined in as well with afew bars 😂
I still don't get what made these rappers that mad about this.
@@yusifudo46 the king of each coast bars made NY people upset. It was a big moment that generated a lot of buzz that couldn’t go unanswered if you were a prideful MC
@@michaelbarnes2126but he didn't tell a lie. Kendrick would smoke any of them except J
Cole. Cole is a serious problem for any MC, and he liked the challenging nature of his bars.
@@Gottiline_Ace Cole would smoke any MC easy work at this point in time. That includes Kendrick
@@michaelbarnes2126idk about that but it’ll be competitive. J Cole doesn’t diss ppl and when he has it wasn’t all that
Quick fact check. Kendrick was not the first to either use or make popular skits on an album. Artists were doing this long before Kendrick was even born. To make it easy though, Dr. Dre's Chronic II album has skits, and that came out long before Kendrick did.
Big Sean had phenomenal albums and he also won a lot awards and more hits. Kenderick has more Grammys but Big Sean still has impressive career
Big Sean DOES NOT have more hits than Kendrick. Not even close
Ion know what you smoking, but whatever it is got you thinking Sean got more hits than Kendrick, shit need to be discontinued
I like Big Sean but let's be honest...Good Kid Maad City is bigger than Sean's whole career.
Big Sean is ass homie
@@imnottellingyou9724 that’s 🧢. Kenderick has more political statements Big Sean been making hits since 2011
These bloggers and the internet make everything worse. If Big Sean wasn’t offended at first then he wasnt… he didnt care until the people starting egging on foolish ness
Exactly lmao, this dude said people were shocked that control didn’t end up on hof when he LITERALLY said the same day that it dropped that he couldn’t clear the sample in time
Any dudes that got mad about it were soft. He literally said he’s got love for them, and being mentioned shows that you were competition. That’s a compliment in itself.
bro didn’t get washed, he just wasn’t controversial so i can understand why he’d be annoyed lmao
ngl the kendrick sucking is STRONG af. most rappers take shots at rappers in general, or hype themselves, and even if there was a level rivalry it 10000% sounds like fans like this youtuber just wanted to see the beef.
“u deprived us as fans of an amazing back and forth” lmfao yeah okay
and yeah the kdot leaks werent really good. his delivery would be what saved it.
what could have been a “cool” rivalry became just an annoying moment.
u can have kendrick in your top 5/3/2 whatevs but imo jcol/drake/sean just like big bro to him..they dont have to “match” him cuz they really shaped hip hop going fwd
Exactly man, as a big fan of both.. people be blowing Kdot… Sean verse was good. Kendrick verse was just polarizing
@@matjr331I don't think Kendrick's verse was all that brutal. It's not bad, but it's too nice to be considered polarizing or even a diss in the first place. Don't get how it made people so upset.
@@dynamic3708 he said nothing that should have made people mad smh
@@enishi4ty5 Cole, Sean and Drake are big bros to Kendrick? Wtf are you talking about bro 😂😂😂
I’d love to see Kendrick in an actual rap battle. I think people might be surprised on how it would go.
Depends on who he’s going up against
I mean battle rap and just rapping are 2 different things lol
@@FabledClock facts. I think there’s plenty of rappers that would smoke Kendrick in a rap battle but only a few that could smoke him on a track.
@@jg5004frfr
@@earljohnson2613 when people say battle rap talking about Mainstream rappers they are talking about diss tracks i think. But yea, most if not all of them would get smoked by actual battle rappers from URL RBE and KOTD.
Didnt Big Sean clear up that the beef was squash and there wasn’t anything bad blood on Deep Reverence
To say Kendrick started skits is crazy to me
Mac Miller was prolly joking he not that sensitive and he was cool with tde
Yeah mac was kool with them he and k dot actually did a couple songs together after the control song
Kendrick didn't really diss them, he just let them know he was here and he's a damn problem lol. Ice Cube on the other hand and Tupac are a tie for greatest actual diss tracks in my opinion.
2:59 bruh he jus tryna create competition 😂😂😂😂 it wasn’t even that serious
Two problems from the control verse:::
1. He did not murder these rappers, they still relevant.
2. These rappers' core fans are still bumping/ listening to these rappers.
If anything Kendrick more fell off
It was more of a top dog shout-out. Honestly the people who were "at the top" but not mentioned were who he dissed, to me anyway 🤷🏾♀️ idk.
@@episode1439how he fall off? Cause Morale wasn't Damn pt 2 and nothing but bangers that every track charts and gets certified? Believe it or not some people do the music for the art and not to accumulate Spotify streams and be in tiktok videos lmao.
Fell off? Every album he dropped after that was #1 albums and 17 Grammys😂😂
@@gavinswearingen6492right. Even won a Grammy for that album.
How can you hate Big Sean? 💀
I don't hate him but I don't like his music
He’s very sensitive like Drake
@@worldztune852 bruh moment
Ego
Yea the title is crazy, it was just some competitive rap shit and got squashed years ago.
saying kendrick started “skits” is crazy, i’m a huge kendrick fan but what about em’s skits on the mmlp, relapse, etc. and i’m not even gonna say em started them but saying kendrick did is indeed crazy.
Ugk’s ridin dirty, wu tang’s 36 chambers, etc did it before em
I liked Big Sean's verses on Control.
I never did believe Control was left off the album because of sample issues but Heart Part IV sharing a sample doesn't mean anything. Kendrick had way more pull in 2017 than Sean did in 2013, he'd have an easier time clearing samples regardless.
Me personally i think the beef was both real and fake. On one hand you got someone so serious about climbing the latter in the rap game as fast as possible while the other one writing rhymes just for fun because he just enjoys writing music. Don't want to say Kendrick was just bullying because he was literally the new kid on the block. But if i was big sean i would not have even thrown not one shot because I'd see that i was worthy enough to be called out as one of the greatest rappers in the game to be mentioned and just respect. But thats just me i guess.
Love how people still talking about that control verse from Kendrick TEN YEARS after people said we'd forget it 😂
Big Sean had the best verse on "Control." But nobody is ready to have that conversion. Just read the lyrics.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂💀
Jay Electronica has the best verse imo
@@VII_DivineTV To each their own.
@@andresmeraz1996 Ah, a bunch of emojis. You didn't read the lyrics.
@@yokaigypsyRight. To each their own. Big Sean didn't have the best verse. Jay Electronica out did them both.
Big Sean is my personal favorite rapper. Kendrick is #2, would love to see more music from them together.
Bro Kendrick has always been very competitive and made it clear that he wants to be the best rapper alive. Calling these folks out by name really doesn't mean shit. I understand the videos are based off of there being actual drama but I think it's just a hungry rapper that wants to be the best. They should all have that mentality and have at some point. Called out their idols and competitors by name
That's why they both fell off because who cares about two black men hating each other? We're supposed to be helping and uplifting each other.
Kendrick"Falling Off"😂😂😂Bro U Got Jokes
Kendrick fell off? Aight 😂😂😂
@ramsescano5622 he fell off to me, I'm not part of the rest of the world IDGAF about this world or the collective consciousness so everything that you motherfuckers think is cool or normal I despise & don't really give a fuck about that shit I view everything different than a normal man
Joey Badass had the best response! Killuminati 2 is legendary
BIG K.R.I.T's too, mount olympus was legendary
No he didn't. Papoose had the best response.
@@joeys02man Mt Olympus was CRAZY!!! 🔥🔥🔥
King Los mannn
@@yokaigypsy papooses diss was butthurt as hell im glad Kendrick got at him on that bet cypher
Just a heads up for what was mentioned near the end - copyright strikes for music are usually tied to the beat of the song, not the lyrics. They're also usually handled by the label rather than the artist, and even that is not usually done directly by them, but by a method called "audio fingerprints" (any musicians that use services like Distrokid can verify this - platforms like Twitch, UA-cam, and Instagram use similar methods to automatically know when you use somebody's music in your uploads as well). So yeah, dude that leaked that verse getting a copyright strike doesn't necessarily make that "Element" verse real, it just means the beat triggered the system enough for a strike to be issued, especially with how fast it spread.
after not like us big sean is going to send kendrick a box of chocolates and a handwritten apology note
Big Sean’s verse had way more memorable lines and wordplay for me, Kendrick didn’t say much outside of calling out rappers. Just my opinion.
Facts
Honestly rappers start or maintain their beefs on their own yes. But 90% of the time it’s the fabs the start and maintain it because we typically make comparisons of one rapper to another. Kendrick wasn’t starting no beef, he was literally shaking up the rap game and was successful at doing so. But people only focused on Big Sean because it was his song but nobody really spoke about other rappers responding. This “beef” is honestly on the fans.
The supposed "tweets" from most rappers are them acknowledging that someone who is respected in the rap game called the dame people out that he was collaborating with in a team player attitude. None of that was beef. Some took it personally for sure but those tweets showed how much everyone appreciated having a fire lit under them to get them to show why they had earned a name in the first place. The only real beef Kendrick might have is with drake tbh. But we can save that for another day.
18:13 "Drake and Meek Mill beef might get you gassed up
But I'm a while 'nother beast, I'd really fck you up"💀
If the control song never came out, Sean would've never wrote those verses so yeah, they were for Kendrick
Damn. Surprised these two would beef. They both seem like such cool down to earth dudes
"beef" 🙄
@Steve-ns1uxthat’s one way to put it
T-Pain had skits in his 3 rings album back in 2008. Not to mention the many rappers doing skits prior to that.
Yall gotta pay attention ..... Big Sean started dissing *FIRST* by dropping 4th Quarter Freestyle in 2014, then the rest followed.
Mac Miller also responded to Kendrick on "Here We Go" off the *FACES* album.
Big Sean went crazy on control to he definitely didn’t get washed lol
I wish these guys would actually just name each other in disses instead of this subliminal shit. Trying to figure out whether these guys are dissing or not is annoying as hell.
Part of the game
I know 😂 the subs are fun to dissect though
Right. Probably why the Story of Adidon was one of the more memorable diss tracks in recent memory imo. Can’t remember if he says Drake’s name specifically….but there wasn’t shit left to dissect when that track ended 😂 you know exactly what was said and who it was directed to (not to mention the cover art)
@@ShrimplessScampi He DID name drop Drake!
"Marriage is something that Sandi never had DRAKE! How you a winner but she keep coming in last place?"
Name dropped his MOM too!
“This is especially weird for someone like Kendrick Lamar who really stays to himself and avoids the politics of being a rapper in the modern era”
And then proceed to talk about how Control bodied Sean & Everybody being called out blatantly 😭😭😭
Bit of a miss w that take Lou ! 🤣💯🙏🏽
Id say Kendrick had a bad person in his ear. And Kendrick is also a very competitive person who has a hard time trusting people to reconcile (said as much on Father Time).
Big Sean on the other hand, is a pretty calm and collected guy. He doesnt take things to heart like that, but the Control questions were getting in thw way of his art. Which us why he seemed to hate talking about Kendrick but still claims there was no issues. But he just kept gettng better with cosigns from Ye, Eminem, Lil Wayne etc. which may have made a classical lyricist like Kendrick a little annoyed.
Unstoppable force -> Immovable object
i thought you would talk about what Sean said in Deep Reverence and what both treat each other nowadays
"We may have missed on one of the greatest rap beefs of all time" boy do i have some news...
The control verse was controversial more than a diss song. I would be offended if he didn’t mention me if I’m considering myself one of the goats of my generation.
I just watched Big Sean's Tiny Desk concert, I forgot he had so many hits.
Yes, it was very good!
Love this vid! Thank you for Giving me Credit and showing love ❤
8:25 skits have been in hip hop like forever. Almost every major album had a skit at one point and that was before GKMC
Skits have been a major part of west coast hip hop albums since Dr Dre and snoop Dogg Kendrick did not invest or bring it to the mainstream.
“I was just having fun”, had me rolling lmao
I’ve always thought Kendrick a hater, hating drake who helped him for no reason. But he rich at the forefront so everybody think it's ayt.
Drake has f'ed over several artists before and after Kendrick. Say what you want about the Big Sean thing, though it wasn't really that bad, but don't defend Drake like he's innocent.
How does every youtuber just completely ignore the „i got love for you all“ before „but im tryna murder you, make sure your corefans never heard of you“? Nobody besides Drake took that line seriously and knew it was just an exaggeration in means of the competetiveness of kendrick. That line doesnt shake up anything, it even puts respect on all the names he dropped.
Why y’all sleeping in big Sean like he don’t snap 😅
14:21 this is a huge reach simply because the heart part 4 was never officially released on streaming services
True but it's still an official release, I had to reupload this video cuz the Heart Pt. 4 part was being copyrighted by the original owners. Had to reduce the length to make it fair use
@@louaista ooo I never realized that.
Skits has always been a thing in hip hop.. have you heard an slim shady album or wiz Khalifa mixtape
Ofc. but at the time Kendrick was known for using it the most cuz his GKMC album was popping off
@@louaistawrong Cam’ron’s skits on purple haze was almost 10 years prior, they’ve been doing skits for the longest bro.
@@louaistathen said that....
The fact that big Sean let him do that and actually Released it 😂😂😂 that is WILD! And actually kanye west had skits on his " Late Registration " album
He did it out of respect. Had kendrick not mentioned other rappers he would’ve had a regular verse
Kanye West has skits on both of his first two albums.
K DOT BEEN A BOOGIE MAN
'Irregardless' isn't a word big homie
Kendrick didn't start skit's on albums ppl wayyy before him been doing it
Kdot mos def didn't make skits popular. Folks been doing skits since the early 90s
8:20 lets not act like Eminem wasn't the king of album skits before Kendrick blew up. Joyner. Tyler the creator. Outkast. Just to name a few.
the dude who researched info for the video was prolly fanato cuz he only likes kendrick
It’s so funny bc take the controversy out and how many bars separate the control verses really? Big Sean was going in too he just didn’t diss the whole rap game
How was it a diss?
@@dynamic3708 it wasn’t really a diss but that’s how the culture took it. Between the controversy and rappers getting in there feelings that was the big story. But bar for bar Sean had a really good verse too my point wasn’t really about the “diss”
Well now it seems they have squashed their beef
yo you need to chill trying to start beef where there isn't any. this is some toxic shit right here.
I love Kendrick but show some respect, Sean murdered that control verse and I wouldn’t say he got washed. Kendrick just did Kendrick things.
The HUMBLE diss is a reach because of it being used in the context of DAMN> as an album
I'm early, great video! You should do a video on the takeover phonks been having this past year ! Keep up the great work
yea he did it again with the future metro album 😅
Big sean knew he'd be washed
Skits in hiphop have been a thing lmao
Never heard of this beef before. But Louista sounds far from impartial, as he comes across as clearly is pro-Kemdrick
Bro this is only my 2nd time watching one of your videos (after the reason one) and I have to say this was not enjoyable. Your titles are clickbait, you never leave up an article or quote long enough to be read so the video then has to be paused and rewinded to be read (and this is constant) and throughout the ENTIRE VIDEO all you do is hint to things that will be said "in a minute" or later on in the video. This wasn't even a deep dive, just mentions of what was already known..
I was thinking the same thing after watching this and the Rae Sremmurd video.
Um sir..kdot was nowhere near the first rapper to have skits on their album..lol..but dope video though. I'm subbing
So.. This is the future. Kendrick did it again....
How did I get am ad 4 seconds in lmfao great doc mate!
Damn, it’s starting to sound like Kendrick is the problem
How? Joe Budden was the one escalating the whole thing.
Bro, you’re reading way too much into this… Hip-hop is a competitive sport when Kendrick was saying he wanted to murder them. He wanted to murder them on the beat. This is not anything new. Every rapper goes through this. Go through hip-hop history. This happens once every 10 years.
All these cats be getting in thier feelings, it's Mcing Microphone controlling, when you got the mic, you (have to control it) period the media reads too much into it because they don't do music, it's like looking at abstract picture and not being the actual artist not really understanding the picture
What's crazy tho is that Big Sean's verse was better than K dots verse on Holy Key. K dot killed him on Control tho lol
If anything it's the other way around. Lmao ain't no fucking way Sean out did Holy Key
That intro didn’t age very well 1:06
In all honesty that's HIP HOP. Every song or lyric is a flex of skills and mental intellect. That some people can relate to an cause others to think about on a deeper level or on a higher level. Artist want to be the best in their craft an in their field it's almost like samurai challenging others to be the best. And for some of the artists get they get stronger while others fade away to other fields of interest to them.
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Now that youve told it from kendricks perspective, tell it from the umpires perspective.