Trains In The 1980's Crewe Diesel & Electric Variety, Autumn 1988
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- Опубліковано 29 лис 2013
- A great variety of diesel and electric locos and units filmed at Crewe - including examples of Class 08, 20, 31, 37, 47, 56, 58, 85, 86, 87, 90, 97, 150, 155, 303, and 304 - all seen during a few hours one late afternoon in early Autumn 1988.
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When we had a REAL railway!
Wish we could go back to that era.
I may be American, but I know for a fact that yes, Britain's railway system is kinda crap these days. For me, it's too many different companies and liveries, as well as not enough locomotive-hauled passenger trains; here in America, pretty much all passenger rail is still loco-hauled, mainly in push-pull configuration on commuter routes; we do have some multiple units, but they're few and far between, and many of them are European designs that don't meet our very, very strict crash safety standards because our freight trains are bigger, longer, and heavier than in Europe.
@@Trainlover1995 Why is the British railway system so divided today? In the 80s there was only one company.
Times move on, people in the era in the video would probably still be mourning what they had 30 years earlier. For all its faults, today we have a rail system that carries twice as many passengers on more trains much more safely.
@@MGstaR17 do sone research maybe?
I agree
Cracking footage, these were proper trains, takes me back to when I was a kid.
Class 45 etc all amazing engine sounds proper railway
Thanks very much.
I don't know what it is about trains, I don't know lots about them, but I could sit and watch them all day. Something relaxing about it all.
In 1988 I purchased a two week all train/any UK destination rover ticket for my vacation. While changing trains at crew I was struck by the variety and frequency of trains there so decided not to take my intended train but instead hang around and take in the action. This video took me straight back to that day. Thank you so much for these great memories.
Glad you enjoyed it and brought back some great memories. I did a few All Line Rovers back in the mid-late 1980s too - they were certainly great value if you wanted to clock up some miles!
Some great memories and definitely something for everyone. Reminds me of the fact that the only 25kv loco I really liked was the class 87 - wonderful machines.
Its the variety that always strikes me. How could you not be fascinated back then?! Look at 3:35!! brilliant! I was a spotter in 70s and 80s (around Dorking, Surrey) and I really wish id gone further afield a few times to Crewe or Swindon or out to somewhere like Woodhead even (although i was only 9 when that closed)! Something like hauling only 2 vans at 6:30 wouldn't prob happen now it would be seen as 'economically wasteful' or some crap. 7:50 aaaaah motor rail!! excellent.
This was filmed just around the point that music and girls took over from trains, for me!
Superb video. Loads of great memories spent on the platform ends here before the railways just became a variety of multiple units and a couple of freight locos.
Thanks very much. Things were certainly very different back then compared to today - just glad I was able to record a selection of 1980s & 1990s railways before things changed.
I feel oddly relaxed watching this. If only trainspotting could be a paid career! Thanks for sharing.
Takes me back. Used to go to Crewe many Saturdays back in the early 80s. All the livery was just blue and yellow then.
What a great video crewe must been so good in 1980s all them diesels. 20s 37s 08s my favourite, loved watching this
that's a fantastic video there Darren it brings you back British rail days when diesel and electric locomotives all dominating this route
Oh the good old days remember my first trip here when I was about five yrs old, but most of the London services were mk3 and DVT stock don't remember seeing the mk2a and mk1 stock then, awesome video!
Surprised not to see myself as a 15 year old school kid on the end of platform 6 there - Spent many a Saturday afternoon hanging around Crewe.
This is taken just after the remodel which saw the introduction of 80mph through the up and down fast mains - and massive increase from the previous 30mph limit
Great video - Takes me back to my youth :)
+nwguyuk Thanks very much, i'm glad these old videos bring back good memories for so many people. Although not local to me, I do have more movies from Crewe back then on my channel - so you may spot yourself yet!
What memories. I lived in Chester then and Crewe was my regular place to watch trains. Remember the excitement of seeing brand new 90001 and 90002 on test trains. Such variety both in locos and liveries - happy days
great stuff. :) this is the railway i remember. great to see an 85: i will never forget the huge roaring noise they made coming into Wolverhampton from Liverpool or Manchester. thank you for posting this. :)
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it. Yes, those electrics always sounded great when they took power after sitting idle.
Excellent catch my friend. Thumbs-up. Greetings.
There seem to be a lot of train videos filmed at Crewe on UA-cam but for me 20 minutes was long enough in Crewe on the way to / from the Battle of Nantwich last January. Crewe itself feels a bit run-down and I was happy when the Nantwich bus came. It's like having to walk through a seedy part of Sheffield to get to the Interchange to get a bus into Derbyshire...
(I used to be a railfan in 80s-90s but not so much now except on journeys).
Spent many a day at Crewe when we had all this traction and when we had a proper railway not all those plastic things we have now, thanks for sharing.
Nice video. Great to see an original blue class 56004 locomotive 😊
Thanks. BR Blue was never the most exciting livery, but the Class 56s looked smart in it.
Watching Railcam,,Crewe is bloody dead compared to this. Loved the Welsh 37/4s. Liked the Cardiff parcels, used to see that a lot at Shrewsbury too. My dad could have been driving in this vid.
Great memories. Thanks again for sharing.
brings back so many memorys ,first vissit to crew in 80s , so many locos hard to keep track
In the days when human beings did the announcements. Oh how I miss them!
At Crewe it's still human beings
Fantastic variety of trains. I do miss Loco hauled servies and the sight of locos stabled at stations. Very enjoyable watching! Dave
Proper English railway back then. It's all European shit now
Good footage, if only there were this many locos there today.
Excellent video once again, great to see these old engines so busy......My grandson of 6 years is now an avid fan of your clips bud, he's even asked why he cant see any of these great looking trains about anymore, that took a while to explain lol. Oh and just incase anyone is wondering what happened to the loco at 4.04 in the clip it was being moved to the workshop after it was struck by Loco 5521 causing the damage you can see.
Never a dull moment at Crewe in 1988. Oh to be back there again! Thanks for uploading this, just great.
I miss these days. Loved visiting Crewe, Warrington and Runcorn. some very nice classic loco action.
Quite possibly my favourite rail vid on youtube ...although my heart did sink a bit when the sprinters started to make an appearance :-) If I ever get round to building a model layout, it would be based in the 80s... such a variety of locos, coaches and wagons in all sorts of liveries.
Locomotives in this Country Nowadays are nothing Compared to What I saw on the Railways in the 1970s and Early 1990s when there were the Classic Clagging Sounds of the Class 20,25,26,33,40,47 and the Classic sound of the Napier Engine of the Class 55 aka the Celtic when we had Muscle Power Back then,I know there is a Generation that liked to remember the Good Old days of Steam When Mallard Broke the Record of 128mph in 1938 and got a lot of Respect for that But I was Bought up in the Diesel and Electrification Age but Compared to what is on the Railways now since well all I have to say is Nah Don't think Much of The Modern Rail Network Since Privatisation Back in the Early 1990s and Now with all the Foreign Made Stuff on the Railways like the Italian Made Pendelinos and Dutch Abelio,Would Much rather go back to the Time of When Such locomotives I remember were on the Railways.🚂🚍🚆🚅
The good old trains with classic looking trains and locos...
+Victor Meldrew -7homas These were the days to be an enthusiast I guess, not the same now - although there's certainly a lot more colourful trains to film I guess!
Great video! Love the old Class 304. Reminds me of the old 308s that used to run along our Southend Victoria line with the 302s and the odd 312 :)
The "304"s were supplemented by "303"s and "305"s in the '80s and '90s.
Its funny but at the time, all this mundane every day stuff seemed fairly dull!
Little did we know just how 'dull' it would really be 27 years latter.
You can see the APT sitting there at the very back! It was only two years after being left for preservation so it was probably still very operational
Well captured Darren, great variety, always plenty going on back then!
That 86 in blue looks really nice hauling that blue/grey rake or mk2s. Kinda 60s retro. Interestingly, 2015 sees the reintroduction of class 87 use on passenger trains with the caledonian sleepers. So you can still see an 87 + mk2/3 set stopping at Crewe today, just like old times! :-)
InterCity Skoda on 4 Mk1s? Outrageous!!
Some got a coat of NSE tooth paste too, but they got withdrawn not long after that.
The good old days and a great video!
Cracking video, lots of memories of Crewe as a teenager around this era
Another top drawer upload.. Thabk you, thank you !!
Fantastic a pleasure to watch such diversity, very good
What a cracking video, happy days indeed. Just can't guess what is going to appear next and very well filmed, steady and without lots of crash zooming. Two things that let down so much stuff on You Tube. Well done indeed.
An 85 @ 19:53 without it's central BR cast logo? Never saw that, thought they all wore that until the death. Beautiful roarer. Miss them.
Brilliant! I really enjoyed this! Thinks I should have got that 37 up to Manchester! Thanks for posting!
Those real mish mash assorted rakes of coaches. Love them.
47484 I K Brunel in GW 150 livery was a nice surprize - I think it went to CD working parcels trains in 1987 before being transferred back to Old Oak Common during 1990. These compared with today's tram-like offerings are real trains!
+Flyfactors UK 47484 was one of those locos you always liked to see. I was lucky enough to see it on the Great Western and on the Midland Mainline too. As you say, today it's all a bit too unit like, but there are some special liveries out there to chase.
another great collection and sounds
We'll never ever see the likes of this again.. Thank goodness you saved it. A big like from me
Brill... Great to be taken back in time. I wonder if the spotters of today will look back like we do. Don't think many youngsters will make libraries of their films to keep for future years.
Well you're wrong there.
Another vintage classic Daz, some good stuff seen here. Liked.
Enjoyable video Darren thanks for sharing
+mscangliarail Thank you very much.
Remember Crewe well, used to travel from London Euston To Aberystwyth as a kid around this time. Usually this service was Mk3's hauled by an 85 or 86, then change at Crew to get a 150 'sprinter' the rest of the way. But one time the train was made up of an 86 and load of NSE Mk1s, then at Crewe the 86 was swapped out for a 37 and it took us all the way. but they didn't plan this too well as the 10 coach London train didn't fit on platform Aberystwyth. lol.
v11cu96 didn’t the Euston - Aberystwyth train go via Birmingham and Shrewsbury?
Nice video, thanks for posting
Great stuff brings back a lot of memories
Some more great footage
First started at Stafford feb 1988 on BR and this has depressed the hell out of me, what has gone
I know what you mean. I wish I had gone further and filmed more now, but i'm just grateful I've the hours and hours of footage from the 80's & 90's I have - one of the reasons I film a lot now is that you never know how things will have changed in 30 years from now.
Great to see & hear the class 85 at (19.55)
Nice vid :)
great video, only went to Crewe once or twice. spent most of my time at Birmingham or Coventry . liked Bristol temple Meads also.thanks for sharing .
+soupdragon12345 Thanks. Crewe back then was much better than today, then again so were many other places! There's a good Bristol Temple Meads 1990's movie on my channel too if you've not seen it.
Excellent nice to see some real stuff.
Great vid, especially love the Roarer at 19:50 :-)
Ahead of time, I think. :) Already nice and fast Intercity trains in the 80s.
What a collection! No way as exciting as this these days. Thanks for sharing such great memories.
Those 56s were (are) one fine pieces of machinery.
Indeed they were - and still are doing work for Colas, and before too long GB Railfreight too :-)
Brings back memories!
The total lack of a blade of grass, weed or tree on the track is so different from the mess of the railways today.
great video especially the screaming grid,such a shame that the only thing you see regularly now off that video are the crappy diesel units!
Great video:
Great stuff
You must have been incredible brave to have used motorail. Dread to imagine how many cars were pelted by line side scallies.
Busy busy busy little Gronk .
Nice to hear “delayed” again though lol. Great footage 👍
Some gems indeed
Great Video, can you possibly advise what equipment you used to transfer from VHS to Computer as I am looking to purchase this week, lots of video to share! Many thanks, Mike
Ah, how things change in 26 years
Smashing footage, Always went to crewe on saturdays whilst doing an east midlands rover, nice to see plenty of corporate blue, We did not know how lucky we were back then, keep up the good up loads
Big dirty Grid!😍
very cool
Look closely at the background at 11:20. I do believe that’s one of the power cars of the APT.
Darren, a brilliant video, a great reminder of what Crewe used to be like for the variety of loco's that could be seen on a daily basis, thanks for sharing, it's a like, cheers...Bill
Why is E3195 wearing the old running number scheme and livery?
So basically, you have the class 90s with the new intercity livery, then you have most locomotives with BR blue, then you have this oddity with the old electric blue livery and logo.
It must have been a rare catch by then.
Is there a story of what happened to 31466?
+Ben 1337 E3195 was 86426 repainted during 1988 for some celebration or another - cannot remember which as I was only 15 years old in 1988.
Flyfactors UK Geez, I wish I could have been there,
I LOVE the BR Blue Era.
E3195 was repainted in "original" livery in 1987 for the InterCity 21 celebrations. It was displayed at Bounds Green Open Day, and used on specials to for the sector as well as operating in normal traffic as seen here.
10:06 a class 90 on 4 mk1's!
that would look ridiculous at a model railway exhibition, lol.
it did look rather odd. :) i presume the 90 was still on test, which would explain it.
Absolutely superb video. If I could ever go back in time then Crewe in the 80's would have been where I'd go. Great variety of locos and not a Pendo or Voyager in sight!
Good video. Abit strange seeing Class 303s working outside the Glasgow area
Nice. Do up and down fast are no directional running? Is this still the case now?
Hope those poor buggers weren't trapped in the lift for too long!
Did you film this yourself?
Didn`t know the motor rail was still running in 88 !! Thought it ended years before!! Looked quite heathy with trade with all the cars on it !! Always high end gas gazzling cars on them.In other words big earners!!
3:40 gronk for the win! lol.
What platform were you stood on? (In the first few clips)
It looks like platform 1. The big wall would be behind him.
5:00 What's a "domestic railman", and why would they be needed at the ticket barriers?
4:06 what happened to the 31 in the middle and who would off thought 45/50 of the 150/1s are back in the north west and I used to catch the 303s on the Glossop/hadfield line
Those "303"s used to break down on the Hadfield services. I was once stuck outside Newton for over an hour.
loved the 155 LOL
I quite liked the Class 155's - there's been talk of more coming back by doubling up Class 153's, which seems crazy! lol
They double them up(and even treble them) on Great Western, seen such consists working out of Bristol. Also saw a GW 153 coupled to a South West Trains 158 this week - interesting pairing.
Nice surviving early Jaguar XJ6 on the Motorail at 7:11.
"Electrician required to the lifts "? Oh dear.
Marveles ...
well i remember the old provincial liveries of trains
What was a domestic railman? Never heard of that grade.
+Supersonic8984 I don't know to be honest, maybe sounds like someone responsible for station upkeep/cleaning?
Only ever found on the London Midland Region apparently. Responsible for station upkeeping.
Nice video, when trains were TRAINS!
That Glasgow Bleu train strayed a good disctance from home.
And I imediatly noticed the number on the dented class 31, 31466, that one has been for a year in our fleet at the ELR, that damage was not the final condemnation for that loco.
Loved the thrash of the 37's and the starting grid with the MGR. (and the sound of the 85's)
Its not nostalgia is it to say that trains had a bit more character back then?
No, it's not. There was definitely more variety on Britain's rail system in those days. Nowadays, most passenger trains are boring old multiple units built by foreign manufacturers, and the interesting multiple units like the Pacers, Sprinters, Turbos, and Networkers are being withdrawn because of bullshit safety standards, and bean counters who would rather buy foreign than rebuild older rolling stock to modern standards (at least the InterCity 125 isn't going anywhere for a long time).
I may be an American who's stuck with Amtrak and publicly-owned commuter rail agencies, but even I know that Britain's rail system was second-to-none in those days. BR should never have been Privatised, and I would kill to see it Renationalised under the BR banner with good old loco-hauled passenger trains and Rail Blue paint. And if they're feeling real good, bring back steam, too. Better for the environment, and can benefit from modern technology.
@@Trainlover1995 How are Sprinters interesting?
Travelling by train was a luxury. Now it's all about poxy money
@@Trainlover1995 sadly the 125s are almost all gone now due to the rubbish 800 class
what happened to that 31
time machine please !
11:18 APT in the distance.
Omg you’re right!