There is enormous cultural and linguistic differences between the Koi and the Bantu. As great as the differences between English language and culture and Chinese.
I want to watch this but as an atheist in Texas, any discussion of evangelical christianity requires more strength than I currently possess. I'll come back to it when I feel more outraged and/ or curious
I'm an atheist but have become interested in the topic. Not because I believe it, but because it's underrated historical knowledge, and it also teaches us about human psychology and group behavior (not just European, apparently)
Without being disposed negatively or positively to Protestantism some of the phenomena described over the course of the lecture reminded me of Hegel’s argument that Christianity was an ideology suited to a sect (His point being the limited scope) and that the historical stage was ripe,for it because of the mystery that Rome’s decline was bringing (unhappy consciousness), it could be that Revivalist Protestantism has recaptured that spirit in both its dynamism and limited scale. I am not sufficiently well versed in Christianity’s history but for me the main pertinent element seems to be the escapism this revivalism offers (see all the references to supernatural phenomena). I had also never heard of the Chinese incident from the mid 1800s which Professor Ryrie describes, absolutely fascinating piece of history.
For? Depends how broadly you define it. Any meaning or morality as being true. Would fall under that label in my mind. Human rights would fit under this.
@@philgwellington6036 Your welcome more thoughts the better. Experiments require minds. If religion is an experiment is that not a religious idea? Not trying to be flippant. But would not any mind before matter even deism be religious?
I come from South Africa. The spread of belief in christ does not indicate that it is true christianity. Most of the Christian denominations still have a mixture of christianity and shaman practices. Magic, traditional superstition, witchcraft, muti , is still a strong part of these religions. While the singing is very beautiful, it creates sense of community, and it creates a more moral character for the staunch adherents, there is a strong emotional outpouring of feeling at meetings. I myself have been involved in teaching these people to break away from superstition..
To Graham College. I thank you for the free education which I benefit from tremendously!
Mr Ryrie, excellent, brilliant presentations…..so clear!
Thought-provoking. Many thanks!
Truly a useful lecture. Many thanks!
There is enormous cultural and linguistic differences between the Koi and the Bantu. As great as the differences between English language and culture and Chinese.
I want to watch this but as an atheist in Texas, any discussion of evangelical christianity requires more strength than I currently possess. I'll come back to it when I feel more outraged and/ or curious
How you doin today?
I'm an atheist but have become interested in the topic. Not because I believe it, but because it's underrated historical knowledge, and it also teaches us about human psychology and group behavior (not just European, apparently)
Without being disposed negatively or positively to Protestantism some of the phenomena described over the course of the lecture reminded me of Hegel’s argument that Christianity was an ideology suited to a sect (His point being the limited scope) and that the historical stage was ripe,for it because of the mystery that Rome’s decline was bringing (unhappy consciousness), it could be that Revivalist Protestantism has recaptured that spirit in both its dynamism and limited scale. I am not sufficiently well versed in Christianity’s history but for me the main pertinent element seems to be the escapism this revivalism offers (see all the references to supernatural phenomena).
I had also never heard of the Chinese incident from the mid 1800s which Professor Ryrie describes, absolutely fascinating piece of history.
So ironic his final comments on non-political evangelical Protestantism - 4 years on and their support for Trump changed everything
FYI 'Genadendal' in Dutch means 'Dale of forgiveness'; the emphasis is on the second syllagle ('na').
Brilliant Professor! You should do stand up history, 47.33 is a classic lol. Don't worry, you passed this test ..
Why are southern Baptists called southern baptists?
22:20 ritual weeping - interesting
Genadendal is pronounced [χəˈnɑːdəndal].
Interesting in general, but echoing Western talking points about the Cultural Revolution deeply compromises his analysis of China.
Is religion a placebo?
perhaps
For? Depends how broadly you define it. Any meaning or morality as being true. Would fall under that label in my mind.
Human rights would fit under this.
@@nics4967 Thank you. I was just putting my thought out there lol. Another thought.. is religion a kind of experiment?
@@philgwellington6036 Your welcome more thoughts the better. Experiments require minds. If religion is an experiment is that not a religious idea?
Not trying to be flippant.
But would not any mind before matter even deism be religious?
@@philgwellington6036 Though deism is too hands off and it need not be a trancendant mind.
Your talking like by q from start trek?
27:15 Preachers tale, aka Lie.
I come from South Africa. The spread of belief in christ does not indicate that it is true christianity. Most of the Christian denominations still have a mixture of christianity and shaman practices. Magic, traditional superstition, witchcraft, muti , is still a strong part of these religions. While the singing is very beautiful, it creates sense of community, and it creates a more moral character for the staunch adherents, there is a strong emotional outpouring of feeling at meetings.
I myself have been involved in teaching these people to break away from superstition..
Which part are you calling superstition, the shamanism or the Christianity?
You sound nuts. What brand of Christianity is the true religion? The reformed church of South Africa that supported the apartheid regime?
@@AbandonedVoid 😎