I dnt believe Pac was ever tryin to be the best rapper. He was trying to get a message out and music was one way of doing it. Pac is the greatest bcuz of EVERYTHING he did
Everybody try to listen to the interview before commenting. There is no hate in this interview and a lot more is discussed than the one line in the title..
Yo RA I love these talks you have with vlad man, discussing hiphop and breaking down the structure of the artform, but i couldnt disagree more on the LL Pac issue. Drake is lyrical and got nice wordplay but all he raps about is girls and corny stuff just like LL did. Guys like Pac Nas and Jay portrait the image on the streets and to me thats what makes a top ten MC
I agree with everything u said. People always making these lists and don't even know a person's musical catalog. Most of these clowns that comment can't even tell u one thing about Cutmaster DC, Mantronix, etc. You grew up in that era so your opinion is highly respected.
A question I always wanted to ask u RA who wins a battle in there prime Rakim or Big Daddy Kane? I always say Kane because of the punchlines and his wit. And of course his showmanship if it was a live battle like it was supposed to be. And who are your top 10 favorite rappers?
I can't believe Vlad thinks Drake can touch PAC. That's just unbelievable that someone his age and knowing what he knows. I'm 22 and think PAC is wayyyyy better than Drizzy. And I listen to Drake but he's definitely not better than Tupac.
Calvin G Bruh that is no debate wat so ever..drake can barely rap, his flow is constipated as fuck..drake is an R&B artist, pac made r &b songs too, but they were still internal rhyming and will kill anything drake ever put out.
im a huge tupac fan, i have him tatted on me, but drake can rap. i dont know what the fuck you're talking about, and tupac never made r&b songs either..hes never sung one song..he rapped.
What about "Dear Mama" and "Brenda's Got A Baby"? Yeah, Pac rapped on those, but they were more soulful R&B type of songs. Pac even came with some melody on those verses. Believe it or not, Pac also had a soft side. Nothing wrong with that.
yessir! I was takin my kids to school last week and pulled up Bigger and Deffer on my phone. I forgot how epic that album is. By the time it got to "Get Down", my blood was pumpin like I had an expresso shot!
LL Cool J was dope...but he started making music for women because gangsta rap was dominating. 2Pac made music for everybody. He had songs for the thugs and songs for the women. Biggie copied that blueprint from 2Pac and it worked for him too. But naw bruh...LL ain't nowhere near 2Pac. But "I'm Bad" is my shit!
Remember when Pac dissed LL on My Lil Homies. Pac gave him love on Old Skool. Then hatin ass LL took Biggie in the Who Shot Ya Remix. Hahahaha...miss the old days. RIP Pac the God
R Gee wrong!! LL was rappin to the ladies waaayyyy before quote on quote Gangsta Rapp existed his name stands for Ladies Love Cool J; hence L.L. Cool J.
Frederick Johnson ICE CUBE is more versatile than Ren. ICE CUBE has all the skill and elements of the Art of being an EMCEE but Ren is a Rapper and isn't as artistic as ICE CUBE. That is the FACTS not OPINION. Facts always trump opinions. o·pin·ion əˈpinyən/ noun - a view or judgment formed about something, NOT NECESSARILY BASED ON FACT or KNOWLEDGE. VS fact fakt/ noun - a thing that is INDISPUTABLY THE CASE.
Lmao yall only argument is that Pac werent lyrical. Pac was all about passion and emotion, sending a direct clear message that why he aint care about being 'lyrical' so how can you use that against him. Even then its still wrong as he proved on many tracks that he could be lyrical when he wanted to, just listen to the Makaveli album where he was lyrical AND had SUBSTANCE while others may have slick rhymes but aint sayin nothing.
MrThekidisback right he was a poet so how can he not be lyrical but i was addressing what people view as 'lyrical' as in wordplay, punchlines which Pac showed he could do when he tried.
Pac was 'lyrical' he had great rhymes. were they the most technical, no but he could tell story at times and be poetic all day. if you are poetic, you are "lyrical" to some degree in my book. everything ain't all about multisyllables I mean shit.
@@gregmand13 love and share your opinion, I could go on and on about his annoying views, voice, and inability to interview without talking over the person, where is nardwar when you need him ?
Yall tend to forget Pac died at 25. LL still living. Plus Pac died after his best album. If he lived to see 40 you would be saying he sold out. If LL died after MSKUO album or Bigger and deffer. you would be calling him the greatest
A lot of y'all misunderstood him. if LL died before Pac he would have that legendary status because he died in his prime. Pac Died in his prime and look at the legacy. Hes just saying if roles were reverse it could of been LL. Ain't no disrespect here.
😂😂😂 you guys are funny as hell!!! Tell me why every single person that says someone else was better than Tupac, like big, LL , snoop, etc. be acting like those rappers wrote their songs as fast as Pac did? 😂😂😂 bro Pac knew he was going to die so he was busting out songs left and right!! As many as he could before his time was up!!! Just imagine if Babylon and none of those hating ass backstabbing ass mothafuckers were after him and he knew his time wasn’t limited, bro he would have given us MASTERPIECES!!! Every time you guys say that someone else is better than Pac and telling others they don’t know anything about rap, just makes you guys sound and look stupid as fuck 😂😂😂 do research first man 😂😂😂 that way you won’t look stupid again!! 😂😂😂 it sucks we didn’t get those masterpieces but most of those songs he wrote in a short amount of time are still way better than MOST of them other rappers songs!!!
@@sugs1191 400 bench press club is not talking about the click bait title jd is talking about the state of hiphop used as programming and dumbni down the culture
As a heavy fan of Pac he wasn't a great lyricist. Pac had a conscious/struggle/gangsta type of rap and the best energy out of all rappers on wax not to mention the poetry he spit. So for LL Cool J to be a better lyricist than Pac is believable but better Rapper? I can't agree
LL can rap obviously,but 2pac was for the struggle. Biggie was more lyrical than Pac,but that didn't stop him from making "Hit'em Up"! It was a lot of rappers more lyrical than Pac & they still couldn't fuck with him! #Facts
Rai Gresham It's facts when it's the truth. I speak truth so it's #facts! Name one rapper that shut 2pac down then you would make me a liar! Just name 1 rapper that shut Pac down?
Mookaron how about the fact that Bigge made "Who Shot Ya?" About a fictional foe, and Pac felt the force of the lines and the reception that song got and got so on his feelings he came back with "Hit Em Up", that basically was just someone ranting over a beat, wasn't witty, and only memorable for helping to fuel the beef. Biggie did get his attention as well with the line from "Brooklyn's Finest": If Faith had twins she'd probably have 2 Pacs. Now that's not saying that ended Pac, but just when he was challenged lyrically, he couldn't even really respond in kind. And is that the litmus test now for a great lyricist? You have to have ended a career? Then that would mean LL is better than him because he did it to 3 different rappers in different generations of the genre. Show me where Pac did that....
I actually agree with this, even in the age of the GREATS of Big Daddy Kane, Kool G Rap & Rakim when LL stepped on the scene in the same era he shook the scene DOWN like yo this cat can RAP his ass off so that is something that can't be disregarded. because BDK, KGR & Rakim are arguably all top 10 rappers ever and LL is on the same level as those dudes
2pac may not have been the most lyrical in the sense of punchlines and lining up syllables per se, but his imagery and his storytelling was always moving and powerful. His messages and his outspokenness coupled with these qualities is why he is mentioned among being the best of all time. He may not have been the best MC, but as a rapper, his influence somehow very well goes within and yet way beyond Hip Hop. One!
with pac it was mostly poetic and delivery based, as far as ACTUAL RHYMING goes. Big L destroys Pac, Kane destroys Pac, Biggie destroys Pac, G rap destroys Pac, the list goes on and on and on. Thats not taking anything away from Pac because he had a lot more impact than most and pretty much put Hip Hop on a GLOBAL stage. Pac had a certain character which made him stand out but he's not even in the top 20 of best technical emcee's and wordsmiths
@@Qonvex I said Pac got busy lyrically when he wanted to. I have heard many records where he got busy. I didn't say he was better than the people that you named.
@@mukumbosimpito1571 go listen to AZ's Do or Die, or Pharoahe Monch's Internal Affairs. Then compare them lyrically and you will see that they are on another level. 2Pac had a great message in a lot of his songs and managed to put Hip Hop on a world stage but not with complex lyricism.
Do people actually know what a rapper or MC is? I can name a ton of people that are a better rapper than Pac and I love Pac to death. But of you're talking rapping. Pac is a average rapper. Great artist and social leader but rapper. RA is right.
The problem is they don't know what an mc is. They don't even know what hip hop is smh. They were born during or after gangsta rap and jumped raps dick when it became mainstream and popular. They weren't around for the graffiti, breakin, block parties. They don't know the impact or sacrifice of Run Dmc, Kurtis Blow, LL Cool J, T-La Rock, etc put in to the culture. They speak on shit they don't know. Its like me trying to argue and debate with my mother about the Motown sound of the 60's. It could never happen I wasn't alive and only have second hand information.
When Public Enemy said "Elvis was a hero to most but he never meant shit to me". A lot of younger people think it's just a lyric. They don't understand the time (era) or the context. Those were very powerful words and it was throwing a dagger to the American power structure. Vlad wants to judge based on sales, hits or likes. When he can't accept in Hip Hop or the culture is what are you doing for the Hip Hop culture. Tupac said, I may not be the one, but I will have inspired the one, in an interview. What will drake have inspired? Not a stab on his music but what does he do for the culture?
Kevin X so you think their aren't plenty of young rappers that are nice that look up to or have been inspired by Drake? Being socially aware isn't the only way to influence and help hip hop culture. Look at all the trap rappers that grew up on and were influenced by Gucci. That's a cultural impact. Drake has continued to blur lines between R&B and hip hop, along with Cole, Kendrick, and Chance and guys like that he's reaffirming you don't have to be a street cat to rap. On a business side he's showing folk how to sustain your wave he's doing things for the culture .
Public Enemy said that because they're ignorant on what Elvis was. They come from the new school of thought which is "hate everything white in order to boost blackness" and black people sometimes ignorantly assume that white people look at icons who happen to be white as a symbol of whiteness. Michael Jackson is a symbol of blackness to black people but Elvis is not a symbol of whiteness to white people. White people do not think along those community based lines.
Little Jimmy Scumbag Well I beg to differ. PE was talking about the system and they were counter to what the main stream wants us to buy into. That hurt some people's feelings. My original comments were more about how powerful that line was at the time. It made it safer for others to go strong against the establishment. Kevin
osp80 I see where you're coming from, it all depends how you look at unless you really knew the man then you'd really know if he was a thief or just really loved black music that much
Someone please explain this: During the early to late 90's New York *loved* Snoop & Dre, Ice Cube, Cypress Hill, Likwit Crew and many other West Coast rap acts, but just didn't check for Tupac's music. He had a few songs that people thought were ok like "Get around" and "Keep ya head up" but it was never a situation where people were buzzing about his music the way they were for Wu-Tang, Gangstarr, Tribe, Snoop, Boot Camp etc.... So here is the question......Why not?
@BloodyJasonMask Any true 2Pac people know that album was his greatest deepest and more overlooked works in his entire career. Dear Mama was obviously a mainstream hit along with Me against the World being on Bad Boys soundtrack. But the album in full is by far his best overall project not 1 bad song and the message of him being depressed and in a very dark place while being incarcerated is just simply amazing even to this day .
I'm a die hard pac fan. People don't understand when they say "such and such is a better emcee than pac" pac was a poet a political rapper there are many better Emcees than pac but not a better artist. Like people like the person pac more than the rapper pac.
I have always argue that Pac was a better actor than rapper. but what always set him apart was his pen game.,,Lets face it his writing is what save him since his flow is just average. ,,he is no way a lyricist like a Big daddy kane or Rakim.His rhymes didn't roll off his tongue and had you jumping out your chair.
Imperial stats ###Bruh!! hop on your yellow bike and keep up , this isn't about Substance but more on DELIVERY.Pac was an average rapper who pen rhymes that was conscious and important.LL just brought the heat regardless of subject matter.
Vlad he made you look like you not hip hop on that last question. Vlad co-signing these young dudes without a rebuttal and RUGGED MAN gave him fact and some game!
"Hey Lover" was the shit back in the day. LL Cool J was one of those rappers that came out with a phenomenal song every now and then but he is not better than Tupac when you compare the complete catalogs of music from both artists. And I'm not even a Tupac fan like that.
"All-time is a long time. If you don't know the history, how can you even have an opinion on all-time?." Those lines can murder anyone on their own track.
Talking politics didn't really age well. Now everybody talks politics. But damn I wish pac was still alive with how ugly the the political climate has become and how much respect pac has. It would be a definite game changer. Not musically but politically!
I hate how every old school rapper thought they was talking bout "politics" and the truth. His music is either "I kill cause I'm a thug" or " Men don't appreciate ladies" or "police brutality" like every other rapper back then
Nothing can touch Pac. You can have all the musical rap skill in the world but still can't touch him. 2Pac had heart, and said a lot of things on record that these new rappers are very scared(especially now) to talk and go hard on. Biggie had the flow, hustlers mentality and skill but Pac had the spirit Heart and message.
KRiS yes its possible to touch Pac ive heard rappers better than him, plus tupac rapped about black on black crime then turned around on that social bullshit on the same album
Exactly as humans we have short memory spans and seem to forget about the great men before us who laid down the stones when there wasn't even a path to follow!!!
If LL ever had a public beef with Tupac, he wouldn't have let Tupac pull him down to the nonsense level, he would have forced Tupac to keep it Hip-Hop, and one to one, man to man, LL would have been completely remorseless. He would have never backed down. He would have destroyed Tupac.
Yeah he was deep and poetical. But if we're talkin about straight bars there are plenty of rappers who do it better than Tupac. its so stupid that its controversial to say that. Tupac is great more for what he symbolized and what he represented.
Artistically and song wise, 2Pac still shits on most of his peers. Pac has more classic songs in his catalogs more than most rappers. Pac's passion and energy in most of his lyrics still can't be matched. Don't try and downplay who he was as an artist just because he wasn't spitting punchline after punchline. His work ethic and body of work is still one of the greatest in hip hop.
thats not what happened though you probably didnt even watch the video. It seems like vlad was just waiting for that one line to headline the video instead of listening to what ra had to say
Pac social message: "THUG LIFE: Its okay to be a thug, and not try to be great, because we already lost". Before Thug Life, it was shameful to be a thug, and we were a better people for that. After Pac, a thug was the thing to be, and look at us now. The only people who look up to him and his "legacy" are losers. they seem to forget how he went from east coast pro-black to westside gangbanger...when your people look up to "heroes" like this no wonder why black folks can't get ahead...they don't feel they have to...Its all good in the hood. smh IMHO
Pac was the best at delivery and capturing that lifestyle, thats why he meant so much to a lot of people. He was like the hip-hop version of blues...But instead of uplifting them, he told them it was cool to stay there...for someone to be that influential, it was a crime not to try to do something positive.
You know nothing about Pac or his music and his message went over your head. Tupac was never an "East coast pro-black MC." 2Pac came out the gate rapping Oakland, Marin City, and The Bay Area. Not once did he represent an NYC borough in any of his music. So don't rewrite history. Pac has always ripped the West. Second, Thug Life was a philosophy he and his Stepfather Mutulu Shakur who was in prison came up with to politicize the streets similar to how the Black Panthers movement were tied to the streets and Pac was supposed to be the face of the movement. Third Pac was never a "Westside Gangbanger." Pac never promoted gang banging in his music. He rapped about the effects of such things. On Pac's very last album, "Makaveli 7 Day Theory," he has songs like "Hold Ya Hed," "Krazy," and "White Manz World." which are all social and political songs. So again, you have no idea wth you are talking about
kob456 lol Pac was born in harlem son...and of course the white mans oppression is part of the reason thugs should remain thugs right..throwing up the westside saying we'll ride on you mfs and I f*cked your wife is hardly revolutionary...he was a hypocrite and only low brow thugs "get" his message...the successful see that acting tough and barbaric it isn't the true path to prosperity. Only through education, peace, love and mutual respect can you rise above this lunacy...none of that was in his message
What does that have to do with anything I said? He went by MC New York before he got into the industry or before he ever signed a deal. That was a local rap name he was using at 18 or 19. On 2Pac's first ever album, "2Pacalypse Now," he went by his name 2Pac and was repping Oakland and the Bay. He never came into hip hop as a New Yorker, so stop it.
MRLEGEND101 Why are you telling me Pac was born in Harlem? First of all, I'm not even sure if he was born in Harlem. He was born somewhere in NYC and that's a fact. 2nd, where you are born is not the point. Pac still went through his most life changing moments living on the westcoast as a teen. 3rd, 2Pac throwing up the WS and riding on other rappers is called HIP HOP, you dumbass. That's what happens in hip hop. It's a competitive sport of music. 4th, Stop Looking at Pac as some "positive" rapper. Pac is not Common Sense. He never came in the game on some moral high ground. He was a flawed human being and he never tried to uphold the image of an MLK or Ghandhi. That's where people like you get it twisted. You hear a song like "Changes" and want to put him in a conscious category. 2Pac's whole style is to be a rebel. 2Pac was kind of following Malcolm X. That's what you don't understand. Yes, 2Pac did preach education, he did preach for brotherhood, he did preach unity, he did promote love for the SISTERS but he also talked about the HOES, spoke to the lowlives, and battled other rappers. This is what you call diversity. He's not some one trick pony.
Some of Tupac's Interviews are more enlightening and meaningful then some of LL Cool J Albums. LL made a impact in Hip Hop, Tupac was a influence and made a impact in Society. If Tupac was still here today the world would be a different place.
@@kevinscott59 That’s because most pure hip hop fans like myself (I was born late 70’s) have listened to hip hop since the 80s so there’s an appreciation for the art form. These Tupac fanatics (their not the only ones) no nothing about the history of hip hop (exactly what RA referred to). And if social conscious rap is their thing…I bet none of them have much to say about Chuck D or Arrested Development, The Roots (to name only a few)..as they maybe have heard one song if that! But I don’t get so annoyed at that..I stick to what I like. However, last point to be made, the fanatics are as much of the problem as cooperations who have dumbed down hip hop and made it regress as a music genre…as these fanatics are the target audience who have supported it over the last 20+ years.
@@its_rick_james_bich2575 no it doesn't bcos Chuck D Nd Krs one have both said the same themselves. And they're both pioneers and in my top 10 mcs. So a very silly comment on your behalf
Andre Salazar Hell no with LL's wack ass flow and old school ass bars. "Fish Fry Batter" "Oreo Cookie" wack ass lines he should never be mentioned with the G.O.A.T.
Problem with black America, once you pass 35 in rap your considered an old head. When it comes rock, reggae, classical or Spanish music age doesn't matter, how many people still go back and listen or even buy old school hip hop music besides those that are again considered as an old head. I still do and I love me some rakim, slick rick, etc but I don't count cause I'm 37. Johnny cash was making music for a hot minute and was never looked at as an old head, bob Marley, queen the list goes on
This video is a big ass L & a Hard ass slap in the face.LL Cool J is A Dope Ass Rapper.but he's Nowhere near Better than Pac.Bih put some Respek For Pac name
"Go back & listen to the greatness" the past few months ive gotten deeply into mobb deep, big l, wu-tang, rakim, nas, big daddy kane, & man is he right there is some greatness in the past that ive missed
HankBlockOG 2Pacalypse is a classic imo. Just about every Pac album is a classic. Shit, even some of the albums that the studios put together are classic-status contenders. Better Dayz for instance.
I agree, but you could say that about a lot of the other greatest emcees of all time. Kane, G Rap, Rakim, KRS, and them are also better than tupac...but thats because tupac wasn't a LYRICAL emcee he was a SPIRITUAL and EMOTIONAL emcee and we should remember him as such. I would have to say he is one of the best STORYTELLERS of hip hop along with slick rick
It’s fucked up how Will Smith, LL and Cube get shit for rapping back in the day, then later becoming actors doing movies or whatever, when Drake was the one doing Degrassi, then later becoming a rapper. Why doesn’t he get the same level of scrutiny for his past acting career?
ST HASH Take some Big & some Pac mix'em up in one pot sprinkle a little Big L on top WTF do you got? You got the illest & realest killers tied up in a knot the juggernauts of this rap shit like it or not!
pac is one of the greatest rappers of all time not because of his rap ability but his emotion and the experience u felt listenin to his music and his message as well
but at the same time, you wouldn't shit on his rapping ability. Eminem is a perfect example of how "rapping ability" is kinda meaningless. Great, you can fit 100 syllables into 2 lines and rhyme 20 words, but you said nothing of meaning. If your song is meaningless, it isn't HipHop.
The fact that Pac is still on everybody's mind and talked about in a lot of interviews is enough of an answer. You don't have to argue about who's a better rapper. Pac's legacy will live on forever. The nigga died 20 years ago and people still talk about him to this day.
It's always the rappers that are trash who got something negative to say about Tupac. it's like pac said "niggas talk a lot of shit but that's after I'm gone, cuz they fear me in the physical form, R.I.P. 2pac
I have always argue that Pac was a better actor than rapper. but what always set him apart was his pen game.,,Lets face it his writing is what save him since his flow is just average. ,,he is no way a lyricist like a Big daddy kane or Rakim.His rhymes didn't roll off his tongue and had you jumping out your chair.
As far as fame and reach he could be seen as the greatest. Buuut what about actual rapping take the fame out of the equation and going off of strictly skill level and rhyming and lyrics then 2pac isn't the greatest rapper at that point he would be 10 forsure
radio stations are told what to play or else loose funding. music is dumbed down to keep the masses blind to reality. youll never hear dead prez, immortal technique or any informative conscious music. they saw the uprising of black culture when public enemy, arrested development,, xclan, etc in the late 80's early 90's. conscious mainstream hiphop lasted from 1988-1992. they saw the black empowerment of hiphop in those years and immediately removed it from mainstream and gave you murder rap like deathrow. look at the shit storm ice t created as well as ice cubes Amerikkkas most wanted. now CRAP RAP IS MAINSTREAM.
Good Lyricists, mcs and rappers are a dime a dozen.... songwriters and artists like Pac come along once a generation... that’s why he’s considered one of the greatest
I gotta disagree with RA that LL is better but for anyone who says LL's whack needs to listen to ripper strikes back. That shit was filled with fire ass bars..
I'm so tired of people sleeping on my man PACs rapping abilities he was just as great as a Nas big pun Eminem etc hell he put biggie on he had bars go listen to death around the corner, bomb 1st, if I die tonight etc the whole putting him in top 5 base off impact and influence gets old he had skills just respect that
@@mfdoom163 bro,u dont know anything,dont go listen to songs like dear mama and come tell me pac aint the same lyrically as nas,if u actually dig deeper ull know pac is a lyrical god,i cant take u seriously
@@dxsh8853 I can't take you serious lmfao i've listened to all of tupacs songs and albums and hes not a lyrical cat nas is wtf listen to i gave you power by nas.
If Luda died in his prime, he would be talked about like Big and Pac are. Dude was a beast. I'm an old head, and I love Pac, but Luda's ability to exaggerate this whole larger than life persona was dope. He is easily the best from the south to ever do it. So we can say Big(NY), which I don't agree with, but most people do. Pac(CA), Possibly. Ludacris is the best from the South to do it as far as lyrical ability is concerned.
Dude is exactly right about what he said about how Hip Hop was dumbed down. BUT ...LL is only a better "rhymer" than Pac, not a better song writer & overall artist 💯
"I have been mumbling since I was a baby, the shit comes easy"- Lil Yachty.. The fact is few people could do what Biggie, Pac, Cube, Ludacris, etc. could do. A whole bunch of people could do mumble rap. That is the difference.
You know whats ironic. RA The Rugged Man, for most of the entirety of this interview, is talking utter sense and making great valid points about conditioning through Media/ Television/ Modern Hip-Hop ect. Then from 8:31 he proceeds to state "Ludacris was incredible in his prime" Wasn't Lucacris one of the most 'Commerical Rappers' in his prime? How was Ludacris not following the exact 'Conditioning' RA The Rugged Man was referring to? And then in a prior segment of this interview, from 6:35 Onwards, he decides to claim 'LL Cool J is a better rapper than not only the Notorious BIG, but 2pac. Tbh, I don't believe Tupac Shakur was the best rapper alive/dead in any shape or form but 'LL Cool J' Even for his era, was nothing close to 2Pac. Go look up LL Cool J and compare for yourself.
Ra is speaking the truth whenever somebody dies they are considered the best it's crazy how LL doesn't even get mentioned in the top 5 the guy is a lyrical best in his prime on the top of that he has about 20 records
marley1221 he's saying that they're not capable of creating an original idea for a movie. that now they're relying on comic book movies, which require a lot less creativity because the story is already played out
Futcho Bishh RA is a top 15 rapper of all time. you are clueless about Hip hop smh you judging someone on their skin colour but probably be the first to cry racism
California Love still gets played in clubs to this day... when was the last time you heard an LL song in a club? LL is a legend, but I give it to Pac... look at Pac's overall influence in hip hop. The word "thug" is used mainly because Pac put that on. FTW (f*ck the world) is a thing because of Pac. His presentation was so good they did the hologram show for him... and if you want lyrics, Pac had that flow too...
LL better than Pac?
I don't know man, but both are legends!
Hip-Hop Universe cuz u ugli
one is alive, and the other is dead.....
I dnt believe Pac was ever tryin to be the best rapper. He was trying to get a message out and music was one way of doing it. Pac is the greatest bcuz of EVERYTHING he did
Decovia79 agreed
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Everybody try to listen to the interview before commenting. There is no hate in this interview and a lot more is discussed than the one line in the title..
RAtheRuggedManTV The shit I used to get of my mates for bumping Mase's Harlem world back in the day, now it's cool to listen till lil Yachty!?
Yo RA I love these talks you have with vlad man, discussing hiphop and breaking down the structure of the artform, but i couldnt disagree more on the LL Pac issue. Drake is lyrical and got nice wordplay but all he raps about is girls and corny stuff just like LL did. Guys like Pac Nas and Jay portrait the image on the streets and to me thats what makes a top ten MC
I agree with everything u said. People always making these lists and don't even know a person's musical catalog. Most of these clowns that comment can't even tell u one thing about Cutmaster DC, Mantronix, etc. You grew up in that era so your opinion is highly respected.
A question I always wanted to ask u RA who wins a battle in there prime Rakim or Big Daddy Kane? I always say Kane because of the punchlines and his wit. And of course his showmanship if it was a live battle like it was supposed to be.
And who are your top 10 favorite rappers?
Since when did you start believing that CAPS WERE THE WAY TO GO? Dumbass.
I can't believe Vlad thinks Drake can touch PAC. That's just unbelievable that someone his age and knowing what he knows. I'm 22 and think PAC is wayyyyy better than Drizzy. And I listen to Drake but he's definitely not better than Tupac.
Calvin G Bruh that is no debate wat so ever..drake can barely rap, his flow is constipated as fuck..drake is an R&B artist, pac made r &b songs too, but they were still internal rhyming and will kill anything drake ever put out.
im a huge tupac fan, i have him tatted on me, but drake can rap. i dont know what the fuck you're talking about, and tupac never made r&b songs either..hes never sung one song..he rapped.
Nigga listen to can u get away, temptations
What about "Dear Mama" and "Brenda's Got A Baby"? Yeah, Pac rapped on those, but they were more soulful R&B type of songs. Pac even came with some melody on those verses. Believe it or not, Pac also had a soft side. Nothing wrong with that.
Right that's what imma tryna say to matt
LL Cool J had the goods. He became Hip-Hop’s first true superstar and no one can take it away.
“When I retire I'll get worship like a old battleship.”
yessir! I was takin my kids to school last week and pulled up Bigger and Deffer on my phone. I forgot how epic that album is. By the time it got to "Get Down", my blood was pumpin like I had an expresso shot!
LL Cool J was dope...but he started making music for women because gangsta rap was dominating. 2Pac made music for everybody. He had songs for the thugs and songs for the women. Biggie copied that blueprint from 2Pac and it worked for him too. But naw bruh...LL ain't nowhere near 2Pac. But "I'm Bad" is my shit!
R Gee #Facts
LL was out way before gangasta rap and his first single had a b side "I want you" on the back of "I Need a Beat" and "Rock the Bells" Not a #Facts
Remember when Pac dissed LL on My Lil Homies. Pac gave him love on Old Skool. Then hatin ass LL took Biggie in the Who Shot Ya Remix. Hahahaha...miss the old days. RIP Pac the God
R Gee. LL always wrote for the ladies. ladies love.
R Gee wrong!! LL was rappin to the ladies waaayyyy before quote on quote Gangsta Rapp existed his name stands for Ladies Love Cool J; hence L.L. Cool J.
ll is one of the GREATEST but PAC took shit to a whole OTHER LEVEL
You mean LL did. LL was the first to do it all, and he stayed in the game for over 20 years, while selling at least platinum.
Walton Lans PAC was the most important for black culture. LL was the better rapper tho
true as well. @ bubblehashman
I dont think so i been around both seen them both perform sorry got my mind made up should a made u a believer ll went to POP COMMERCIAL
Steph Curry The G.O.A.T do you know what thug life mean ? i bet not , just another ignorant fuck online.
" I was raised by thugs schooled by killers, learned my mathematics skills from real drug dealers." - Tupac the Goat
I've never seen a guest that Vlad disagrees with more.
The're people out there who call LL the GOAT since 1990. Jay Z's Uncle told Jay "You'll Never be better the LL"
The fact that they say Goat comes from LL. I believe its LL but it could be Melle Mel!
And as a MC, Jay-Z is STILL not better..
Ll was the goat but Jay Z took the crown from him so did PAC imo.
No one has took the crown from Rakim still the God MCEE
MC Ren is dope as fuck in his prime straight up
Frederick Johnson cube better tho
Antdolla bullshit
NO VASELINE...... conversation OVER. THE END
+meagainstthewrld final frontier
Frederick Johnson ICE CUBE is more versatile than Ren. ICE CUBE has all the skill and elements of the Art of being an EMCEE but Ren is a Rapper and isn't as artistic as ICE CUBE. That is the FACTS not OPINION. Facts always trump opinions.
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Vlad quit interviewing this GTA liberty city pedestrian
LMAOOOO
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+Chris Espinoza Lol, I get reference. No one can take the mic from LL, lol.
QUEENBEE " Your naive incompetence gets crushed by my dominance " BARS 😂😂
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Chris Espinoza lol
Vlad aint trying to get the knowledge this man dropping. Smh
Vlad always under cuts ra.
vlad is the biggest interviewer clickbater ive ever seen
It's a debate. It wouldn't be as good as it is if he didn't go back and forth with him.
Yup. Vlad is a fuckin brown nosin bitch. He ain’t bout shit. His knowledge of hip hop is laughable
Lmao yall only argument is that Pac werent lyrical. Pac was all about passion and emotion, sending a direct clear message that why he aint care about being 'lyrical' so how can you use that against him.
Even then its still wrong as he proved on many tracks that he could be lyrical when he wanted to, just listen to the Makaveli album where he was lyrical AND had SUBSTANCE while others may have slick rhymes but aint sayin nothing.
Dee Three Facts
And the thing is Pac was lyrical. People just don't know what lyricism is.
MrThekidisback right he was a poet so how can he not be lyrical but i was addressing what people view as 'lyrical' as in wordplay, punchlines which Pac showed he could do when he tried.
Pac was 'lyrical' he had great rhymes. were they the most technical, no but he could tell story at times and be poetic all day. if you are poetic, you are "lyrical" to some degree in my book. everything ain't all about multisyllables I mean shit.
ProtectedSouls4 not sure if you misunderstood but that is my point
Why is Vlad talking over the person he's interviewing
Because hes a leftest pussy who wants to be a rapper and cool.. i could go on and on. And this is coming from a gypsy who knows
@@gregmand13 love and share your opinion, I could go on and on about his annoying views, voice, and inability to interview without talking over the person, where is nardwar when you need him ?
He sucks.. never heard of him and this will be the only group of interviews i ever watch from him
Yeah i know. More like a debate. And why is he trying to act like he knows more about hip hop than this legend!
terrible to listen to.
Yall tend to forget Pac died at 25. LL still living. Plus Pac died after his best album. If he lived to see 40 you would be saying he sold out. If LL died after MSKUO album or Bigger and deffer. you would be calling him the greatest
Orlando Lewis facts
Johnny Virus No doubt
True.
All Eyez On Me's Overrated
A lot of y'all misunderstood him. if LL died before Pac he would have that legendary status because he died in his prime. Pac Died in his prime and look at the legacy. Hes just saying if roles were reverse it could of been LL. Ain't no disrespect here.
Francisco Gonzalez not true, the reasons that people love Pac and ride for him till this day doesnt apply for LL.
Francisco Gonzalez Pac was a living legend before he died. LL was a great rapper. Big difference.
Francisco Gonzalez well the same should be same for biggie
FACTS!
So was LL.
FINALLY SOMEBODY WHO ACTUALLY KNOWS HIP-HOP and not the commercial bullshit narrative pushed by the media on the masses!!! Props to RA
I know hip hop but I'd give PAC the edge. Ll was the goat at one time tho
😂😂😂 you guys are funny as hell!!! Tell me why every single person that says someone else was better than Tupac, like big, LL , snoop, etc. be acting like those rappers wrote their songs as fast as Pac did? 😂😂😂 bro Pac knew he was going to die so he was busting out songs left and right!! As many as he could before his time was up!!! Just imagine if Babylon and none of those hating ass backstabbing ass mothafuckers were after him and he knew his time wasn’t limited, bro he would have given us MASTERPIECES!!! Every time you guys say that someone else is better than Pac and telling others they don’t know anything about rap, just makes you guys sound and look stupid as fuck 😂😂😂 do research first man 😂😂😂 that way you won’t look stupid again!! 😂😂😂 it sucks we didn’t get those masterpieces but most of those songs he wrote in a short amount of time are still way better than MOST of them other rappers songs!!!
Just stfu you as trash as Vlad is.
@@sugs1191 400 bench press club is not talking about the click bait title jd is talking about the state of hiphop used as programming and dumbni down the culture
Dude shutup, you know jack shit about hip-hop
Who came strictly for comments ??
As a heavy fan of Pac he wasn't a great lyricist. Pac had a conscious/struggle/gangsta type of rap and the best energy out of all rappers on wax not to mention the poetry he spit. So for LL Cool J to be a better lyricist than Pac is believable but better Rapper? I can't agree
iLLest Tv You ain't got no stories about how you and Pac use to run niggas pockets in NY?
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iLLest Tv I see you do not know what a lyricist is. Pac was a hell of a lyricist. There's more than one way to be a lyricist.
William Elliott Compared to heavy hitters like NaS and "Reasonable Doubt" HOV? I can't agree fam.
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Putting the LL Cool J/ 2 Pac debate aside he spoke nothing but truth on the music industry.
ll cool j invented the acronym GOAT....greatest of all time #facts
LL can rap obviously,but 2pac was for the struggle. Biggie was more lyrical than Pac,but that didn't stop him from making "Hit'em Up"! It was a lot of rappers more lyrical than Pac & they still couldn't fuck with him! #Facts
Mookaron an opinion is not a #Fact. Lol, kinda proving R.A. Right here.
Rai Gresham ...true cause Hit em Up really isn't that dope to me. Neither did it damage Biggie's career. Faith really lost that fight.
Rai Gresham It's facts when it's the truth. I speak truth so it's #facts! Name one rapper that shut 2pac down then you would make me a liar! Just name 1 rapper that shut Pac down?
Mookaron how about the fact that Bigge made "Who Shot Ya?" About a fictional foe, and Pac felt the force of the lines and the reception that song got and got so on his feelings he came back with "Hit Em Up", that basically was just someone ranting over a beat, wasn't witty, and only memorable for helping to fuel the beef. Biggie did get his attention as well with the line from "Brooklyn's Finest": If Faith had twins she'd probably have 2 Pacs. Now that's not saying that ended Pac, but just when he was challenged lyrically, he couldn't even really respond in kind. And is that the litmus test now for a great lyricist? You have to have ended a career? Then that would mean LL is better than him because he did it to 3 different rappers in different generations of the genre. Show me where Pac did that....
Artman Nexus Hit Em Up is pretty weak lyrically not to mention Biggie did a better job on that beat on the Get Money Remix.
I actually agree with this, even in the age of the GREATS of Big Daddy Kane, Kool G Rap & Rakim when LL stepped on the scene in the same era he shook the scene DOWN like yo this cat can RAP his ass off so that is something that can't be disregarded. because BDK, KGR & Rakim are arguably all top 10 rappers ever and LL is on the same level as those dudes
I prefer those guys but LL was greater than them
The disrespect...
Wingzero83 is real
Wingzero83 what's disrespectful
2pac may not have been the most lyrical in the sense of punchlines and lining up syllables per se, but his imagery and his storytelling was always moving and powerful. His messages and his outspokenness coupled with these qualities is why he is mentioned among being the best of all time. He may not have been the best MC, but as a rapper, his influence somehow very well goes within and yet way beyond Hip Hop. One!
Remember PAC would do 5/ 6 songs in one night .PAC was a beast .
Pac was a all around mc .. he can rap about anything … pac was versatile
LL is not on Pac's level. When Pac was alive, these dudes were shitting in there pants.
lmao but 2pac is Suge bitch 😂😂
"Why you always dwellin on the past? Baby boys reminiscin old school shit, young fools get dicked, LL rules the shit... I SHOT YA!"
😂😂 Pac fanboy nonsense
I love watching RA talk about rap history. DJ Vlad sucks at debating. His opinions are trash.
I really think he should compile a history of golden era hip hop in a book.
_"Deepest, Bluest, my hat is like a sharks fin"_
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Horrific chorus but that beat was dope as fuck
Exactly
Josh W. Haha yeah right
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Why ppl still talking about pac u see the impact he got on people
Roderick Julius because vlad asked him..did u not watch the interview
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Because the same with Aaliyah and everyone else just because they dead
Pac got busy lyrically when he wanted to. FOH!
Yeah,but they werent well known
with pac it was mostly poetic and delivery based, as far as ACTUAL RHYMING goes. Big L destroys Pac, Kane destroys Pac, Biggie destroys Pac, G rap destroys Pac, the list goes on and on and on. Thats not taking anything away from Pac because he had a lot more impact than most and pretty much put Hip Hop on a GLOBAL stage. Pac had a certain character which made him stand out but he's not even in the top 20 of best technical emcee's and wordsmiths
@@Qonvex I said Pac got busy lyrically when he wanted to. I have heard many records where he got busy. I didn't say he was better than the people that you named.
@@Qonvex go listen to makaveli full, then talk to me about lyrics.
@@mukumbosimpito1571 go listen to AZ's Do or Die, or Pharoahe Monch's Internal Affairs. Then compare them lyrically and you will see that they are on another level. 2Pac had a great message in a lot of his songs and managed to put Hip Hop on a world stage but not with complex lyricism.
Do people actually know what a rapper or MC is? I can name a ton of people that are a better rapper than Pac and I love Pac to death. But of you're talking rapping. Pac is a average rapper. Great artist and social leader but rapper. RA is right.
The problem is they don't know what an mc is. They don't even know what hip hop is smh. They were born during or after gangsta rap and jumped raps dick when it became mainstream and popular. They weren't around for the graffiti, breakin, block parties. They don't know the impact or sacrifice of Run Dmc, Kurtis Blow, LL Cool J, T-La Rock, etc put in to the culture. They speak on shit they don't know. Its like me trying to argue and debate with my mother about the Motown sound of the 60's. It could never happen I wasn't alive and only have second hand information.
tee Joe says a person hiding who they are to talk shit on the internet
When Public Enemy said "Elvis was a hero to most but he never meant shit to me". A lot of younger people think it's just a lyric. They don't understand the time (era) or the context. Those were very powerful words and it was throwing a dagger to the American power structure. Vlad wants to judge based on sales, hits or likes. When he can't accept in Hip Hop or the culture is what are you doing for the Hip Hop culture. Tupac said, I may not be the one, but I will have inspired the one, in an interview. What will drake have inspired? Not a stab on his music but what does he do for the culture?
Kevin X word!
Kevin X so you think their aren't plenty of young rappers that are nice that look up to or have been inspired by Drake? Being socially aware isn't the only way to influence and help hip hop culture. Look at all the trap rappers that grew up on and were influenced by Gucci. That's a cultural impact. Drake has continued to blur lines between R&B and hip hop, along with Cole, Kendrick, and Chance and guys like that he's reaffirming you don't have to be a street cat to rap. On a business side he's showing folk how to sustain your wave he's doing things for the culture .
Public Enemy said that because they're ignorant on what Elvis was. They come from the new school of thought which is "hate everything white in order to boost blackness" and black people sometimes ignorantly assume that white people look at icons who happen to be white as a symbol of whiteness. Michael Jackson is a symbol of blackness to black people but Elvis is not a symbol of whiteness to white people. White people do not think along those community based lines.
Little Jimmy Scumbag Well I beg to differ. PE was talking about the system and they were counter to what the main stream wants us to buy into. That hurt some people's feelings. My original comments were more about how powerful that line was at the time. It made it safer for others to go strong against the establishment. Kevin
osp80 I see where you're coming from, it all depends how you look at unless you really knew the man then you'd really know if he was a thief or just really loved black music that much
Only 50 year olds will ever consider LL in the top 5
Kenny Lafortune Gtfoh bro Pac the GOAT not that BALD ass nigga with the kango
Kenny Lafortune Not really he had two dope albums he is overrated to be honest that's mainly due to NY niggas gassing him up so hard.
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50 year olds that have a better knowledge of hip hop than yall silly kids
"drake's far from wack" - "that's your opinion!" haha... well said.
I bet most of the thumbs down on this are based on the title. RA tells so much truth in this video, it's hard to disagree with anything he says here
Someone please explain this:
During the early to late 90's New York *loved* Snoop & Dre, Ice Cube, Cypress Hill, Likwit Crew and many other West Coast rap acts, but just didn't check for Tupac's music. He had a few songs that people thought were ok like "Get around" and "Keep ya head up" but it was never a situation where people were buzzing about his music the way they were for Wu-Tang, Gangstarr, Tribe, Snoop, Boot Camp etc.... So here is the question......Why not?
@BloodyJasonMask Any true 2Pac people know that album was his greatest deepest and more overlooked works in his entire career. Dear Mama was obviously a mainstream hit along with Me against the World being on Bad Boys soundtrack. But the album in full is by far his best overall project not 1 bad song and the message of him being depressed and in a very dark place while being incarcerated is just simply amazing even to this day .
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I'm a die hard pac fan. People don't understand when they say "such and such is a better emcee than pac" pac was a poet a political rapper there are many better Emcees than pac but not a better artist. Like people like the person pac more than the rapper pac.
I have always argue that Pac was a better actor than rapper. but what always set him apart was his pen game.,,Lets face it his writing is what save him since his flow is just average. ,,he is no way a lyricist like a Big daddy kane or Rakim.His rhymes didn't roll off his tongue and had you jumping out your chair.
jay gets buckets LL wasn't better than PAC tho if he said ice cube or somebody of that nature I would agree
jay gets buckets and ll cool jj was a pioneee of rap...
Imperial stats ###Bruh!! hop on your yellow bike and keep up , this isn't about Substance but more on DELIVERY.Pac was an average rapper who pen rhymes that was conscious and important.LL just brought the heat regardless of subject matter.
Jelani Don Won Ll is better than ice cube tho. Ll was the man in the 80s man he changed the sound. And dude was slaying emcees in battles
Vlad he made you look like you not hip hop on that last question. Vlad co-signing these young dudes without a rebuttal and RUGGED MAN gave him fact and some game!
wesley hill exactly
"Hey Lover" was the shit back in the day. LL Cool J was one of those rappers that came out with a phenomenal song every now and then but he is not better than Tupac when you compare the complete catalogs of music from both artists. And I'm not even a Tupac fan like that.
Nah , PAC got like 3 dope albums back to front ...LL Cool J has a 30 year career of bangers
"All-time is a long time. If you don't know the history, how can you even have an opinion on all-time?." Those lines can murder anyone on their own track.
2pac tried to save people's souls and rapped about political issues and took rap beef to another level..2pac 4life
Talking politics didn't really age well. Now everybody talks politics. But damn I wish pac was still alive with how ugly the the political climate has become and how much respect pac has. It would be a definite game changer. Not musically but politically!
Jexalso led his own race/culture to death , life prison sentences, and death row. ..so yeah whtever u say. Shiuldve stayed on his tu-tu's
I hate how every old school rapper thought they was talking bout "politics" and the truth. His music is either "I kill cause I'm a thug" or " Men don't appreciate ladies" or "police brutality" like every other rapper back then
Tupac Shakur helped damn plenty of souls. Fuck him and Suge.
Nothing can touch Pac. You can have all the musical rap skill in the world but still can't touch him. 2Pac had heart, and said a lot of things on record that these new rappers are very scared(especially now) to talk and go hard on. Biggie had the flow, hustlers mentality and skill but Pac had the spirit Heart and message.
KRiS yes its possible to touch Pac ive heard rappers better than him, plus tupac rapped about black on black crime then turned around on that social bullshit on the same album
Exactly as humans we have short memory spans and seem to forget about the great men before us who laid down the stones when there wasn't even a path to follow!!!
If LL ever had a public beef with Tupac, he wouldn't have let Tupac pull him down to the nonsense level, he would have forced Tupac to keep it Hip-Hop, and one to one, man to man, LL would have been completely remorseless. He would have never backed down. He would have destroyed Tupac.
He was too scary. While 2pac dissed him like he was food
2Pac wasnt a top lyricists his rapper persona eclipsed his bars. Personality carried him far.
D Nice Biggie was a top lyricist not so much Pac tho. Pac rapped from his heart.
Yeah he was deep and poetical. But if we're talkin about straight bars there are plenty of rappers who do it better than Tupac. its so stupid that its controversial to say that. Tupac is great more for what he symbolized and what he represented.
Artistically and song wise, 2Pac still shits on most of his peers. Pac has more classic songs in his catalogs more than most rappers. Pac's passion and energy in most of his lyrics still can't be matched. Don't try and downplay who he was as an artist just because he wasn't spitting punchline after punchline. His work ethic and body of work is still one of the greatest in hip hop.
You obviously don't know shit. How old are you 13?
Carlos Blanco Probably 10
i hate when people say stupid shit just because they know it will start an argument and bring them attention.
thats not what happened though you probably didnt even watch the video. It seems like vlad was just waiting for that one line to headline the video instead of listening to what ra had to say
" Your naive incompetence gets crushed by my dominance " BARS 😂😂
wtf is this dude a barber? or a chef ?
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Kaine He's one of the greatest lyricists of all time
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LL Cool J is a legend. He had the most sustained career of any rapper ever. 1985 to not that long ago he was still selling gold and platinum records.
Pac social message: "THUG LIFE: Its okay to be a thug, and not try to be great, because we already lost". Before Thug Life, it was shameful to be a thug, and we were a better people for that. After Pac, a thug was the thing to be, and look at us now. The only people who look up to him and his "legacy" are losers. they seem to forget how he went from east coast pro-black to westside gangbanger...when your people look up to "heroes" like this no wonder why black folks can't get ahead...they don't feel they have to...Its all good in the hood. smh IMHO
Pac was the best at delivery and capturing that lifestyle, thats why he meant so much to a lot of people. He was like the hip-hop version of blues...But instead of uplifting them, he told them it was cool to stay there...for someone to be that influential, it was a crime not to try to do something positive.
You know nothing about Pac or his music and his message went over your head. Tupac was never an "East coast pro-black MC." 2Pac came out the gate rapping Oakland, Marin City, and The Bay Area. Not once did he represent an NYC borough in any of his music.
So don't rewrite history. Pac has always ripped the West. Second, Thug Life was a philosophy he and his Stepfather Mutulu Shakur who was in prison came up with to politicize the streets similar to how the Black Panthers movement were tied to the streets and Pac was supposed to be the face of the movement.
Third Pac was never a "Westside Gangbanger." Pac never promoted gang banging in his music. He rapped about the effects of such things. On Pac's very last album, "Makaveli 7 Day Theory," he has songs like "Hold Ya Hed," "Krazy," and "White Manz World." which are all social and political songs. So again, you have no idea wth you are talking about
kob456 lol Pac was born in harlem son...and of course the white mans oppression is part of the reason thugs should remain thugs right..throwing up the westside saying we'll ride on you mfs and I f*cked your wife is hardly revolutionary...he was a hypocrite and only low brow thugs "get" his message...the successful see that acting tough and barbaric it isn't the true path to prosperity. Only through education, peace, love and mutual respect can you rise above this lunacy...none of that was in his message
What does that have to do with anything I said? He went by MC New York before he got into the industry or before he ever signed a deal. That was a local rap name he was using at 18 or 19. On 2Pac's first ever album, "2Pacalypse Now," he went by his name 2Pac and was repping Oakland and the Bay. He never came into hip hop as a New Yorker, so stop it.
MRLEGEND101 Why are you telling me Pac was born in Harlem? First of all, I'm not even sure if he was born in Harlem. He was born somewhere in NYC and that's a fact. 2nd, where you are born is not the point. Pac still went through his most life changing moments living on the westcoast as a teen.
3rd, 2Pac throwing up the WS and riding on other rappers is called HIP HOP, you dumbass. That's what happens in hip hop. It's a competitive sport of music.
4th, Stop Looking at Pac as some "positive" rapper. Pac is not Common Sense. He never came in the game on some moral high ground. He was a flawed human being and he never tried to uphold the image of an MLK or Ghandhi. That's where people like you get it twisted. You hear a song like "Changes" and want to put him in a conscious category.
2Pac's whole style is to be a rebel. 2Pac was kind of following Malcolm X. That's what you don't understand. Yes, 2Pac did preach education, he did preach for brotherhood, he did preach unity, he did promote love for the SISTERS but he also talked about the HOES, spoke to the lowlives, and battled other rappers. This is what you call diversity. He's not some one trick pony.
Some of Tupac's Interviews are more enlightening and meaningful then some of LL Cool J Albums. LL made a impact in Hip Hop, Tupac was a influence and made a impact in Society. If Tupac was still here today the world would be a different place.
This comment is pure comedy.
@@kevinscott59 That’s because most pure hip hop fans like myself (I was born late 70’s) have listened to hip hop since the 80s so there’s an appreciation for the art form. These Tupac fanatics (their not the only ones) no nothing about the history of hip hop (exactly what RA referred to). And if social conscious rap is their thing…I bet none of them have much to say about Chuck D or Arrested Development, The Roots (to name only a few)..as they maybe have heard one song if that! But I don’t get so annoyed at that..I stick to what I like. However, last point to be made, the fanatics are as much of the problem as cooperations who have dumbed down hip hop and made it regress as a music genre…as these fanatics are the target audience who have supported it over the last 20+ years.
Gosh ure a d£krider. I've got PAC slightly ahead of Llccolj. For me ll was the goat but then PAC took the title and now maybe Jay z has.
@@sugs1191 the fact you think Jay Z has “the title” shows how ignorant you are in regards to your appreciation of hip hop!
@@its_rick_james_bich2575 no it doesn't bcos Chuck D Nd Krs one have both said the same themselves. And they're both pioneers and in my top 10 mcs. So a very silly comment on your behalf
"Biz Markie is a better rapper than Kendrick Lamar" -RA The Rugged Man
Dank Dank he’s definitely more entertaining
no he's not
LL Cool J is DEFINITELY > 2Pac!! That's just a fact!!
hell NO
Paul Turn'd Up Schmidt You're a kid though!! Stick to arguments about Drake vs. Kendrick & dumb-shit like that!!
Andre Salazar Hell no with LL's wack ass flow and old school ass bars. "Fish Fry Batter" "Oreo Cookie" wack ass lines he should never be mentioned with the G.O.A.T.
Problem with black America, once you pass 35 in rap your considered an old head. When it comes rock, reggae, classical or Spanish music age doesn't matter, how many people still go back and listen or even buy old school hip hop music besides those that are again considered as an old head. I still do and I love me some rakim, slick rick, etc but I don't count cause I'm 37. Johnny cash was making music for a hot minute and was never looked at as an old head, bob Marley, queen the list goes on
preach bro
If they make a big hit song people will listening to that song in years.
This video is a big ass L & a Hard ass slap in the face.LL Cool J is A Dope Ass Rapper.but he's Nowhere near Better than Pac.Bih put some Respek For Pac name
PAC is the goat
He's not wrong. 2Pac is very overrated and wasn't a super lyrical rapper like prime LL was.
everybody is overrated..
ThisIsAUsername facts bruh
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ThisIsAUsername yet pac is the goat
ThisIsAUsername stfu you don't know shit about rap Tupac Shakur greatest of all time
"Go back & listen to the greatness" the past few months ive gotten deeply into mobb deep, big l, wu-tang, rakim, nas, big daddy kane, & man is he right there is some greatness in the past that ive missed
Ll is top 15 but pac has 3 classic albums
HankBlockOG 2Pacalypse is a classic imo. Just about every Pac album is a classic. Shit, even some of the albums that the studios put together are classic-status contenders. Better Dayz for instance.
I agree, but you could say that about a lot of the other greatest emcees of all time. Kane, G Rap, Rakim, KRS, and them are also better than tupac...but thats because tupac wasn't a LYRICAL emcee he was a SPIRITUAL and EMOTIONAL emcee and we should remember him as such. I would have to say he is one of the best STORYTELLERS of hip hop along with slick rick
listen to wherever u r big daddy kane and tupac. pac had the better verse on that track. pac could do mc shit when he wanted to.
It’s fucked up how Will Smith, LL and Cube get shit for rapping back in the day, then later becoming actors doing movies or whatever, when Drake was the one doing Degrassi, then later becoming a rapper.
Why doesn’t he get the same level of scrutiny for his past acting career?
RA is a fuckin legend one of the first too do a song with biggie. Respect too him all day muthafuckin Legend.
Rugged man knows his hip hop give him where credit is due Cool J is 1 tbe for a reason!
I am not here for this video, because upon seeing the description I've been unable to stop laughing, I am here for the comments.
Listen to RA, this man knows what he's talkin about.
Moses opened this nigga beard
big l is probably better than 2pac
Big L is way better than Pac. And L only has 2 albums.
*90*%
ST HASH I can't remember 1 big L hit record or 1 classic album
ST HASH Take some Big & some Pac mix'em up in one pot sprinkle a little Big L on top WTF do you got? You got the illest & realest killers tied up in a knot the juggernauts of this rap shit like it or not!
As good as Tupac was, he is majorly overrated. HE is more of a symbol/legend than the music he made. That's just the realness of his relevance.
pac is one of the greatest rappers of all time not because of his rap ability but his emotion and the experience u felt listenin to his music and his message as well
Nas will eat him for lunch
but at the same time, you wouldn't shit on his rapping ability.
Eminem is a perfect example of how "rapping ability" is kinda meaningless. Great, you can fit 100 syllables into 2 lines and rhyme 20 words, but you said nothing of meaning.
If your song is meaningless, it isn't HipHop.
The fact that Pac is still on everybody's mind and talked about in a lot of interviews is enough of an answer. You don't have to argue about who's a better rapper. Pac's legacy will live on forever. The nigga died 20 years ago and people still talk about him to this day.
People talk about every musician after they die decades after idiot
It's always the rappers that are trash who got something negative to say about Tupac.
it's like pac said
"niggas talk a lot of shit but that's after I'm gone, cuz they fear me in the physical form,
R.I.P. 2pac
hell no , 2pac is million times better than trash ll cool j
RICH BLACK KID trash ll cool j? Bruh you don't listen to music lol you are high as fuck
I have always argue that Pac was a better actor than rapper. but what always set him apart was his pen game.,,Lets face it his writing is what save him since his flow is just average. ,,he is no way a lyricist like a Big daddy kane or Rakim.His rhymes didn't roll off his tongue and had you jumping out your chair.
I don't care how good you can flip words or how extraordinary your vocabulary is, As far as impact & FEEL Pac was the greatest rapper who ever lived.
He's a great lyricist too though! this myth that he wasn't a great rhymer or lyricist is nonsense.
@@chaoticprogress true
Makaveli forever
As far as fame and reach he could be seen as the greatest. Buuut what about actual rapping take the fame out of the equation and going off of strictly skill level and rhyming and lyrics then 2pac isn't the greatest rapper at that point he would be 10 forsure
@@chaoticprogress he wasn't a great lyricist btw
he said one good thing about blasting lil yachty and now comes up with this shit lol
Ra is the best guest this cornball has ever had
I swear this dude was in the NBA before (Vlade Divac)
radio stations are told what to play or else loose funding. music is dumbed down to keep the masses blind to reality. youll never hear dead prez, immortal technique or any informative conscious music. they saw the uprising of black culture when public enemy, arrested development,, xclan, etc in the late 80's early 90's. conscious mainstream hiphop lasted from 1988-1992. they saw the black empowerment of hiphop in those years and immediately removed it from mainstream and gave you murder rap like deathrow. look at the shit storm ice t created as well as ice cubes Amerikkkas most wanted. now CRAP RAP IS MAINSTREAM.
The rugged man is a student of hip hop.
Kids today have no idea how dope and HUGE LL Cool J was in his prime. No idea at all.
Good Lyricists, mcs and rappers are a dime a dozen.... songwriters and artists like Pac come along once a generation... that’s why he’s considered one of the greatest
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LL Cool J "accidental racist" song should take him out if this conversation period. Pac would never make a song like that
I gotta disagree with RA that LL is better but for anyone who says LL's whack needs to listen to ripper strikes back. That shit was filled with fire ass bars..
I'm so tired of people sleeping on my man PACs rapping abilities he was just as great as a Nas big pun Eminem etc hell he put biggie on he had bars go listen to death around the corner, bomb 1st, if I die tonight etc the whole putting him in top 5 base off impact and influence gets old he had skills just respect that
Facts,bro,i deal with haters everyday that say pac aint lyrical enough to be on a top 10 list
Big pun would lyrically destroy pac he is on a whole different level of lyrical skill
@@jamalwalker THIS NIGGA JUST COMPARED TUPACS LYRICAL ABILITIES TO PUN AND NAS LOLOLOL I CANT TAKE Pac fans serious at all
@@mfdoom163 bro,u dont know anything,dont go listen to songs like dear mama and come tell me pac aint the same lyrically as nas,if u actually dig deeper ull know pac is a lyrical god,i cant take u seriously
@@dxsh8853 I can't take you serious lmfao i've listened to all of tupacs songs and albums and hes not a lyrical cat nas is wtf listen to i gave you power by nas.
Ayy RA the rugged man. Vlad knows who to interview. This dude a real white rapper
he's right. we have been dumbed down. imagine Lil yachty one night being played ten years ago. it would literally be a joke...
If Luda died in his prime, he would be talked about like Big and Pac are. Dude was a beast. I'm an old head, and I love Pac, but Luda's ability to exaggerate this whole larger than life persona was dope. He is easily the best from the south to ever do it. So we can say Big(NY), which I don't agree with, but most people do. Pac(CA), Possibly. Ludacris is the best from the South to do it as far as lyrical ability is concerned.
Ludacris was not a Pac or Biggie. He's not from the South either. The best rapper from the South was Andre 3000.
Dude is exactly right about what he said about how Hip Hop was dumbed down. BUT ...LL is only a better "rhymer" than Pac, not a better song writer & overall artist 💯
LL had more international and classic hits... LL had songs with Michael Jackson that you probably never even heard..
"Swarm of nonsense" I love it haha
"I have been mumbling since I was a baby, the shit comes easy"- Lil Yachty.. The fact is few people could do what Biggie, Pac, Cube, Ludacris, etc. could do. A whole bunch of people could do mumble rap. That is the difference.
You know whats ironic.
RA The Rugged Man, for most of the entirety of this interview, is talking utter sense and making great valid points about conditioning through Media/ Television/ Modern Hip-Hop ect.
Then from 8:31 he proceeds to state "Ludacris was incredible in his prime" Wasn't Lucacris one of the most 'Commerical Rappers' in his prime? How was Ludacris not following the exact 'Conditioning' RA The Rugged Man was referring to?
And then in a prior segment of this interview, from 6:35 Onwards, he decides to claim 'LL Cool J is a better rapper than not only the Notorious BIG, but 2pac.
Tbh, I don't believe Tupac Shakur was the best rapper alive/dead in any shape or form but 'LL Cool J' Even for his era, was nothing close to 2Pac. Go look up LL Cool J and compare for yourself.
Ra is speaking the truth whenever somebody dies they are considered the best it's crazy how LL doesn't even get mentioned in the top 5 the guy is a lyrical best in his prime on the top of that he has about 20 records
Facts
Hell naw PAC was making noise before that .The first rapper to put out double CD and sell 9 million .That s sick!!!
@@madizm05 if we are going verse for verse lyric for lyric LL smokes 2 pac
Dislikes Squad..... WE KNOW WHAT WE MUST DO !!! 😕😬
Pac stans bout to drag RA
Why he dissing Marvel movies though? Them shits are 🔥🔥🔥
marley1221 he's saying that they're not capable of creating an original idea for a movie. that now they're relying on comic book movies, which require a lot less creativity because the story is already played out
Two white guys in the rap game arguing 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
Futcho Bishh dj vlad is not in the game, r a is pretty dope
Futcho Bishh RA is a top 15 rapper of all time. you are clueless about Hip hop smh you judging someone on their skin colour but probably be the first to cry racism
RA The Rugged Man is fucking legendary I bet you listen to Lil Pump and shit.
California Love still gets played in clubs to this day... when was the last time you heard an LL song in a club? LL is a legend, but I give it to Pac... look at Pac's overall influence in hip hop. The word "thug" is used mainly because Pac put that on. FTW (f*ck the world) is a thing because of Pac. His presentation was so good they did the hologram show for him... and if you want lyrics, Pac had that flow too...
I Need Love is still played
I"M a 2pac fan since 1996.I got him painted on my wall, in my house,big ass portret.
Rugged man might be right.Pac just meant more for the culture.
True. LL should be in HOF before Pac.