The song may not have been a diss toward Pac, i blame the dude who released it at a perfect time to fuel that fire! Just wreckless. I even blame him for Biggie demise. Had no business in LA!
Sean Combs, which is why I said I don’t blame Big, the song was made well before Pac’s unfortunate shooting, but Puffy controls what gets released, he was trying to sneak diss in my opinion, he never liked Pac. just listen to all interviews where 2pac mentions Puffy, he looked at him like the dancer he came into the industry as, and even the line… “you can tell those people you roll with whatever you want, but you and I know what’s going on”, clearly he knew Puff was on some behind the scenes BS
Puff knew what he was doing 🙄 But I seriously doubt he was going at LL!!! UPDATE: After going over the history, I take it all back: Who Shot Ya was definitely aimed at LL.
Been saying this for years only a goofy would think big dissed PAC on who shot ya because anyone with half of a brain knows the truth because ll made the response I shot ya to big also know big dissed ll on flava in your ear as well
Straight outta pac's mouth: Niggas been talking shit all while I was in jail. “Who Shot Ya?” L.L. got a song “I Shot Ya.” Even if it ain’t about me, nigga, you should be like, I’m not putting it out cause he might think it’s about him. -vibe
@@ijumpjudy you uppercut you're sister when she said I love Tupac you screamed don't ever talk about my husband that way I love him 🤣 you really are zesty for pac nuts
@dnyce8224 if I feel u kno something about my shooting & u keep telling me u get @ me later then u drop who shot u of course I'm gon think it's a bout me...but granted it might was recorded b4 pac got shot but diddy dropped it bad timing but I believe he knew what he was doin
Most people were not talking about LL Cool J in the same conversation with Nas, Raekwon, Tupac, Eminem, Ice Cube, Rakim, Notorious BIG, etc. when it comes to the top 5 best rappers of all time, so LL got too cocky and pigheaded
@@vicvega24LL came from a different era. He was in the game nearly a whole decade before those other people ever showed up. Busta Rhymez, LL Cool J, Big Daddy Kane and Rakim are all Golden Age era emcees that were just blessed with longevity.
Keith Murray was definitely a beast but it looks like the drugs got him down bad now...he ain't been the same ever since Fredo Starr washed him in a rap battle....
@@silentnavarinoYou NY stans crack me up. Y’all take every chance you get to hate on Pac but then want to claim him as as yours. Nope. Pac was a west coast rapper through and through. And not just cause he claimed west side in his music, but he stated in multiple interviews he got all his knowledge and game in Cali as well. Like OutKast said, it’s not where you are from but where you pay rent 🙂
@FireIceTalon NY never had a real problem with Pac. He made shit worst than it needed to be. He spent most of his life in NYC. He went out west and still connected with NY dudes like Shock G & Mophreme. NY was always around him and even had Stretch with him out west. Don’t talk that Pac/west shit when the west are the ones who actually ended his life foh
Jason’s Lyric dropped late September ‘94, but I know it couldn’t have been about Pac because my best friend’s brother was a DJ, he had the vinyl before 2pac was shot, I clearly heard and bumped the f*ck outta that joint before the Quad situation. That’s why I was always confused. Now what I can say, the timing of it being released as a cassette/CD single did coincide with Pac’s situation, which was poor timing, but I would put that on Puff not Big.
Big didn’t stop Diddy. If he was a true friend to Pac. He would tell Puffy naah but he didn’t, so Pac at the is point was discovering who his enemies were. Henchman set it up. Biggie didn’t have Pac’s back he added fuel to it.
@@12tribes61 let me break a few things down my friend. 1. Big was an “artist”, Puff ran Bad Boy Entertainment, Biggie wasn’t “telling” Puffy to do anything. 2. have you ever listened to “Who Shot Ya”? tell me where in any part of that song you would get the idea he’s referencing Tupac? “Hard to creep dem Brooklyn streets”, Pac was shot a Quad Studio in Time Square, that’s Manhattan!! 3. rarely spoken about but, Big was stepped to and robbed by some of Haitian Jack’s crew after warning Tupac not to associate with he, Jimmy Henchman, Scooter and the rest of that crew, but Pac went back and told Jack what Big said, and Big got dealt with for “being a friend”. 4. Mike Tyson told Pac the same thing… “these guys are over your head, don’t hang with them”, 5. ever listen carefully to “Against All Odds”, you know, the song Pac says “this is the realest shit I ever wrote”, notice he mentioned everyone he felt was involved with him getting shot and “set up” at Quad, wanna know who’s not mentioned in that song, not even once… Biggie!!!
I don`t even think Puff released it that time to aggravate Pac because it would make both Big and Pac look like snakes, and it makes both of them look like they got Pac shot.
30 years later and we got people giving us educated guesses on who dissed who and why but with pac thats never a problem cause like a man with a pair he called anyone and everyone out by name he had a beef with💯
Because cornballs wanna ride Pacs dick and make up beef so they can be loyal to Pac. The song never had anything to do with Pac or anybody else it wasn't a diss track it was just rap.
Yep then got unalived the very next year, ruined his record label, got a few more people unalived because of his actions smh that worked out great huh😕
@@mh7067 That's not why big got killed. Big got killed because Suge lost Pac so dude did it for Suge. The guy that did it was a gang banger that knew who really killed Pac but he was also a associate of Suges. They didn't go after the guy who really killed Pac cause it was some street shit. They shot a rapper to ruine Diddys business cause Suge hated Diddy after Jake was killed by Wolf.
Pac was the biggest skitzo. One minute he wants to be Malcom X the next he’s some gangsta. He was a confused individual who was nothing but a fronter. And because he thought $hit was a game he got himself killed along with Biggie because of his antics. And he wasn’t even that good of a lyricist. More of a poet but he’s been elevated beyond what he really was.
I tell people all the time .. that song DID NOT drop after pac got shot .. it became POPULAR after pac got shot .. when I first heard it, it was on a DJ clue tape without the famous “diddy intro” (AS WE PROCEED) .. and it didn’t have a second verse.. u had to be in NY at the time to know that .. that’s why we always argue against that theory.
Wellllll this might actually make some sense because middle of LL 2nd verse and all of his 3rd verse on the original (non remix version) I Shot Ya kinda addresses that Biggie line in a way and he references his history and that he never fell off. 🤔
Yeah. When you put it like that, there definitely was some animosity between BIG and LL. But hell who BIG WASN'T mad at??? He was beefing with half the Wu-Tang Clan! SMH BIG needed to chill.
@@timmy841212 true but people don’t want to talk about that lol. In this case He probably was feelin himself a lil bit in the studio over a fire beat and LL was there and he threw a shot just like homie said.
Also Rashaad Smith made "Doin It" Beat was made for Big and LL got it....that's why it has the Go Brooklyn sample in it. Definitely was some friendly competition at the least.
Also, LL made a Biggie diss track called All World. He made it a music video, but it was taken off air after Biggie's passing. The only part of the song I've remembered was "Biggie, I know you want me to retire."
I can believe that LL took that line and got in his feeling lol. LL was notorious for doing sneak disses too and getting in his feeling about young talent! That's why him and Canibus got into that rap beef which the latter won. But LL is still one of the best. He has a lot of hits!!!
@@fortycalsmith1yes Eric Sermon said Russell Simmons told LL to hang with EPMD so he can get ba k in that lyrical zone and the joint they did together LL cool j dissed EPMD. Eric Sermon said that his self.
What's so funny is that I was there that night at the Jason's Lyric party. I was in college at Morgan State at this time and my roommate from NYC had a friend who was in the music industry said he could get us in at the party. We drove all the way up to NYC that night went to the party. It was crazy because every rapper from the tri state area was there. I remember seeing Jada at the party. At first I didn't recognize her because she her hair cut short and it was blond. Lol, I also remember standing next to Biggie and seeing Anthony Mason big ass walking toward and standing a few feet from us.
They should have had Klepto tell this story in Vibe back in 1995! I wholly blame Puff for releasing that record, knowing what it fueled. Puff and his damn ego though.
Klepto really had the skills to be the next breakout solo star from JM after Kim. Oh My Lord and White Chalk certified bangers off Conspiracy. Cease became bigger solo but he himself said he wasnt really into rapping as much as writing
s/o to Klepto. To this date the beat is crazy, no way you can hold onto this & not release immediately. The fact this man waited to drop record after Pac was shot was COLD BLOOD’d
The song was not made before then, they just had the beat before then. It was originally a Mary J Blige song before and Biggie had a verse on it. Then they took it from Mary and gave it to Big to change it and make it a Pac diss after the fact.
Pac and LL were beefing over Quincy Jones daughter Kidada, way after these songs. Pac started dating her in 96 after she was with LL for like four years.
Y’all think Keith Murray crazy when he said he first got up on the track. This clears up a lot of shit because LL ‘S I shot u. I alot of people such as myself thought that was a follow up diss to 2pac also
Klept is keeping it 💯. A lot or the industry people didn’t want to publicly talk on it because of the heavyweight’s involved at the time but the streets new. I used to be around BIG in the clubs and kicked it with the same women. Remember when he was messing with my homegirl Denise. But I actually heard the Keith Murray original on a mixtape back in the days before they remixed it.
I was telling people for years that " who shot ya " was a direct Shot at James todd, ( LL. Cool J ).. But nobody was actually listening too the song & was feeding fire to burn where it shall not burn.. the media contributed too our Coastal Kings.. I miss them both soo much.. now klepto says it
That wasn't the point. This was literally after Pac got shot, and mix that Pac hearing in jail that Biggie & Puff knew the circles talking bout pulling on Pac, and a lot of radio interviews subtly teasing Pac being stuck in jail. Apparently Puffy knew this will piss Pac off because if the timing, but he released it anyway. It was the WAY it looked & how the public reacted to it, cos ofc the public is gna think it was aimed at Pac!
So you know where to tell Jake, lame nigga Brave nigga, turned front page nigga Does this sound like a diss at LL to you? What rapper was making front page in 94 in NY especially? Even if Big sent a line at LL, every line isn't.
Big`s former DJ said it years ago in a Big documentary that it was about LL, but no one went viral with the story. But if it was about Pac the story would have been all over the place.
@@jephtahcoe No, a lot of people thought the song was made to attack Pac but it wasn't. So now that they are finding out that it was made before he got shot, now they changing the goal post to Big or Puff releasing the song at a time to aggravate Pac to get publicity. That Who Shot Ya with Keith Murray was on NYC mix tapes before Pac got shot. Its on youtube, how do you think the individual who uploaded got it? Big ommited Keith Murray part and added a 2nd verse for Clark Kent because he wanted to Impress Clark Kent Because Clark Kent told Biggie he felt jay-Z was a better lyracist, but Big was the better rapper. The interview with Clark Kent talking about it is on YT. Its one of the interviews with Hot 97. Watch all of them till you find it. The First verse was partly about LL Cool J, the second Verse was big Trying to impress Clark Kent.
2PAC DID EVERY CELEB GIRL IN THE 90S BEFORE AGE 25, INCLUDING JADA, AND THIS MAN LAUGHING ABOUT 2PAC HAVING MADOONA PICTURE IN HIS ROOM. WHILE GETTING EXITED THAT HE TALKED WITH JADA 30 YEARS AGO.
I believe this outta any other story. Biggie couldn’t just come out and say this was about one person. Because it was a competitive time. He could use it for his advantage for any other MC taking shots and say it’s for everyone. I love it. My top 5 favorite songs all time too🔥💯
Facts they just didn't think pac would come back like that ...pac was a real man ...he said names wasn't afraid of anyone...he said it ...SHOULDN'T SHOT ME
I'm so glad this interview is out bcz I have been telling niggas for years this and every tell me I'm bugging but Big had said that somewhere but it was when I was in high school, early part of high school when I saw that so I can't recall where it was from and I couldn't remember where I seen it. So I couldn't show niggas but now, ha haaaaa. (Hittin' my Jadakiss laugh)😂😂😂😂.
PAC was at that event with Jada Pinkett too. September 30 1994. It’s the famous photos of PAC & Jada hugged up, she has short blonde hair and PAC was wearing white Karl Kani top with the backpack. Look it up.
I’m a Big and PAC fan 🤔 but more 2pac over Big due to time listening 🤔 and I truly believe Big wasn’t talking about 2pac on that song. It was just after what happen and the timing it drop 🤔 I mean hell, at a young age like 24 and 25 I would thought the same. A real shame how these 2 over talented brothers who was friends die so young and other people made hundreds of millions off them 😢
People who wasn’t around don’t realize that the song was recorded in September in 94. Big and 2 Pac were still friends then. Even up until Pac actually got robbed and shot almost 3 months later. They still were friends even then. Pac was so full of shit… he was lying acting like he didn’t know who shot him. Pac knew exactly who was behind the shooting (Haitian Jack).. everybody knew that. Big knew about LLs reputation for gettin on tracks wit niggaz and sneak dissin em subliminally (EPMD) and said fuck it… I’mma slick strike first!
LL said in a recent interview that he loved Big, and [agreeing with Klepto] he was in the studio when Big was writing his verse for the song. I dont think it was shots at each other, but more like friendly competition. You had to try to out do each other back in the day on the tracks. No one wants to be cooked on their own single.
Ummmm Hold The Mic 🎤 Bruh LL Is A GOAT ... BEEN In Tha Game For 40+Years, Name Your 40+ Year Relevant Artist. DON'T GET IT TWISTED THO 2PAC IS THE #1 GOAT 🫡😎🙏
So what you got your cashflow and escrow (damn), but your honey ran away like presto... alakazam. ...he aint watching you he rather watch his money pile Etc etc
It don’t matter when it was done. It matters when it was released. They chose to release it after Pac got shot at Quad Studios. He first heard it while in prison for the false sexual abuse charges.
Puffy and Bad Boy wasn't shit. It was definitely strategic on their part. BIG was definitely a guinea pig in this whole thing though I still don't think he's 100% innocent but when it comes to this song, I can believe he definitely had no intent aimed at Pac there.
@@ijumpjudy you the only one here with a billion UA-cam accounts 🤣 you can hide behind that computer and be the real gayster you are prayer boy your gay obsession with Tupac is worse then any female I have ever seen you have true feminine qualities sorry about me messing with you're sister she said I was bigger then you were you did nothing for her 🤣 🤣
Regardless the song was released at the wrong time. They knew what they was doing. They just didn't expect Tupac to turn up then they want to bitch up 🤣💯
@@ricol9291 We all know it was Puff ; but it's bigger than Puff which is why I say they . Scared 🤣 My criminal history shows otherwise Your misperception does not validate who I am 💯 . Have a great day .
Nah, bro. It was that old school line that made me feel it was about Pac because of his song “Old School.” Biggie’s ppl always gonna stay beating around the bush
@TJDuncan Lil Kim and Cease are more known but when the Mafia first started Klepto was more of a rapper than Cease. The Conspiracy album even has Cease rapping the least out of everyone
That song on Conspiracy called Oh My Lord is basically Big and Klepto rapping back and forth. Cease had verses on the album but at this time was more of a writer
You gotta remember back then release dates even on singles weren’t instantly produced. That song could’ve been waiting months before it hit the streets but once you got shit in rotation to be put out you gotta release it
Puffy is a slimy mf’er. Big had no business in LA. The best rapper I’ve heard and I’m from the BX but Big repping BK is nothing but respect. Sad part he didn’t even want any of that EC/WC beef. Sad.
@TheGr8-1 i keep saying that Diddy was real mad at Big for having a side label deal with Un. Always tell people look at everything Puff and to a degree Jay was doing after his death
Puff played everyone like his father Satan aka the Devil. Who’s Know as the father of lies. 1st Peter ch 5 vs 8. Who’s going back & fourth on the earth like a roaring lion. Seeking whom he may devour. This is the reason Gods says his people are devoured for their of wisdom. Hosea ch 5 vs 6
“Old School, New School, Need To learn though”…..aimed at Cool J. Those that don’t believe it was for LL and aimed at Pac WANT it to be about Pac ….then Cool J answered with the Posse joint “I shot ya”.
You need to ask him questions about Jr.Mafia or are there going to be all Jr.Mafia reunion?? Or why his verse was removed on Jr.Mafia " Player's anthem" single/video?🤔🤔🤔
@@ijumpjudy ok jump judy keep jumping you need a job you should get off welfare looking twig ass a job and get off your knees blowing your dad better get back to church that priest isn't done with you in the closet get out of your mothers basement🤣
The song may not have been a diss toward Pac, i blame the dude who released it at a perfect time to fuel that fire! Just wreckless. I even blame him for Biggie demise. Had no business in LA!
Well said!
I couldn’t had said that any perfect. 💯🎯
He’s dead get over it YO biggie Who Shot Ya Atari a sega genesis biggie Shot dead quick--- man I couldn’t picture this lol
Shit definitely wasn’t a PAC Diss 🤷🏾♂️
Sean Combs, which is why I said I don’t blame Big, the song was made well before Pac’s unfortunate shooting, but Puffy controls what gets released, he was trying to sneak diss in my opinion, he never liked Pac. just listen to all interviews where 2pac mentions Puffy, he looked at him like the dancer he came into the industry as, and even the line… “you can tell those people you roll with whatever you want, but you and I know what’s going on”, clearly he knew Puff was on some behind the scenes BS
I love how you let who you’re interviewing just talk without cutting them off
Leave the Nore subliminals alone.
@@BlackFaithProductionthat interrupting ass nigga OMG....and I say this with a NORE song literally in my top 5 lol
Big facts
That is definitely not normal...
@@BlackFaithProductionCould've been a shot at Vlad, he always cutting somebody off, and he swear he knows everything lol....
Puff knew what he was doing 🙄 But I seriously doubt he was going at LL!!!
UPDATE: After going over the history, I take it all back: Who Shot Ya was definitely aimed at LL.
Why not if LL was in the studio in biggie goes old school new school need to learn though I burn baby burn a disco inferno.
Listen to LLs I shot ya you can tell he was going at big.
Been saying this for years only a goofy would think big dissed PAC on who shot ya because anyone with half of a brain knows the truth because ll made the response I shot ya to big also know big dissed ll on flava in your ear as well
@@josephkanu2778I’m gonna read the lyrics. I just never put two and two together. Why didn’t they ever say it was LL? They waited almost 30 years???
@@timmy841212...no they didn't.
Jason's Lyric was released September 28th 1994. Tupac was shot at Quad Studios in N.Y.C. November 30th 1994.
@@james441 genius!
Two days short of a month a part.
Correction - "Two days short of 2 months apart."
@@drfangaz-pronouncedlikefan4019 almost 2 months apart.
@@lawlisceoul6763 True. I stand corrected. I crossed up my thinking on that goodie. 😂
So Big knew Pac was going to get shot two months before but didn't warn him! That's pretty shiesty.
HE WANTED TO TELL THAT JADA STORY SO BAD
Hahahaha I would too tho
😂😂😂😂💀💀💀his timing of telling that story was off just like the song itself
Str8 🦆😂🤣
Nah, I was there. Jada was feeling him
@@dins5066😂😂😂😢
Shirt yelling I don't fit you😂
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Glasses either
😂😂 classic 😂😂😂😂
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Straight outta pac's mouth: Niggas been talking shit all while I was in jail. “Who Shot Ya?” L.L. got a song “I Shot Ya.” Even if it ain’t about me, nigga, you should be like, I’m not putting it out cause he might think it’s about him. -vibe
💯💯💯
Back then, Brothers were getting shot everyday in New York literally.
So, Pac was definitely overreaching on that one.
@@ijumpjudy you uppercut you're sister when she said I love Tupac you screamed don't ever talk about my husband that way I love him 🤣 you really are zesty for pac nuts
@@ijumpjudy yea dmx was cracking it up like you when your dad serves you his beef lol
@dnyce8224 if I feel u kno something about my shooting & u keep telling me u get @ me later then u drop who shot u of course I'm gon think it's a bout me...but granted it might was recorded b4 pac got shot but diddy dropped it bad timing but I believe he knew what he was doin
LL was definitely competitive back in the day.
We all seen what happened with the 4,3,2,1 record😂😂😂
Most people were not talking about LL Cool J in the same conversation with Nas, Raekwon, Tupac, Eminem, Ice Cube, Rakim, Notorious BIG, etc. when it comes to the top 5 best rappers of all time, so LL got too cocky and pigheaded
@@vicvega24LL came from a different era. He was in the game nearly a whole decade before those other people ever showed up. Busta Rhymez, LL Cool J, Big Daddy Kane and Rakim are all Golden Age era emcees that were just blessed with longevity.
@gabbyrodriguez9595 Busta isn't part of that era. Busta is B.I.G era.
That’s why KEITH MURRAY stans like myself hold him in high regard. Dude was a monster when he was younger. One of my favorite emcees of all time.
He's definitely one of the G.O.A.T.'s. If he had the commercial success, he would've been one of the kings on the chart.
Keith Murray was definitely a beast but it looks like the drugs got him down bad now...he ain't been the same ever since Fredo Starr washed him in a rap battle....
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@@gabbyrodriguez9595 never knew about their rap battle🤔
Anybody with sense knew that songs wasn’t for Tupac and B.I.G had nothing to do with anything that happened to Pac.. two Ny Giants gone too soon.
All truth… But don’t call him an NY Giant… Stans will tell you he was from LA 😔
@@silentnavarinoYou NY stans crack me up. Y’all take every chance you get to hate on Pac but then want to claim him as as yours. Nope. Pac was a west coast rapper through and through. And not just cause he claimed west side in his music, but he stated in multiple interviews he got all his knowledge and game in Cali as well.
Like OutKast said, it’s not where you are from but where you pay rent 🙂
@FireIceTalon NY never had a real problem with Pac. He made shit worst than it needed to be. He spent most of his life in NYC. He went out west and still connected with NY dudes like Shock G & Mophreme. NY was always around him and even had Stretch with him out west. Don’t talk that Pac/west shit when the west are the ones who actually ended his life foh
Pac stans know your whole post to be true, but they're just sworn to ride pacs genitals at all cost so they play dumb
@@FireIceTalon U finished massaging bawlz?
For those who been living under a rock, this is Klepto, watch “I Need You Tonight” with Aaliyah & Junior Mafia
that song was trash
and again Who?
@@mzbrown6969😂
Lyrical wizardry
Man nobody knows dude 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Keith Murray was telling the truth🤣
Came here to say this
@@ixapsyborgSAME!!!!
about?
She was giving dude an autograph. 😂
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Jason’s Lyric dropped late September ‘94, but I know it couldn’t have been about Pac because my best friend’s brother was a DJ, he had the vinyl before 2pac was shot, I clearly heard and bumped the f*ck outta that joint before the Quad situation. That’s why I was always confused. Now what I can say, the timing of it being released as a cassette/CD single did coincide with Pac’s situation, which was poor timing, but I would put that on Puff not Big.
Big didn’t stop Diddy. If he was a true friend to Pac. He would tell Puffy naah but he didn’t, so Pac at the is point was discovering who his enemies were. Henchman set it up. Biggie didn’t have Pac’s back he added fuel to it.
@@12tribes61bitch shut up your talking out of your mother's arse hole
@12tribes61 that is exactly what happened facts 💯
@@12tribes61 let me break a few things down my friend. 1. Big was an “artist”, Puff ran Bad Boy Entertainment, Biggie wasn’t “telling” Puffy to do anything. 2. have you ever listened to “Who Shot Ya”? tell me where in any part of that song you would get the idea he’s referencing Tupac? “Hard to creep dem Brooklyn streets”, Pac was shot a Quad Studio in Time Square, that’s Manhattan!! 3. rarely spoken about but, Big was stepped to and robbed by some of Haitian Jack’s crew after warning Tupac not to associate with he, Jimmy Henchman, Scooter and the rest of that crew, but Pac went back and told Jack what Big said, and Big got dealt with for “being a friend”. 4. Mike Tyson told Pac the same thing… “these guys are over your head, don’t hang with them”, 5. ever listen carefully to “Against All Odds”, you know, the song Pac says “this is the realest shit I ever wrote”, notice he mentioned everyone he felt was involved with him getting shot and “set up” at Quad, wanna know who’s not mentioned in that song, not even once… Biggie!!!
I don`t even think Puff released it that time to aggravate Pac because it would make both Big and Pac look like snakes, and it makes both of them look like they got Pac shot.
30 years later and we got people giving us educated guesses on who dissed who and why but with pac thats never a problem cause like a man with a pair he called anyone and everyone out by name he had a beef with💯
Because cornballs wanna ride Pacs dick and make up beef so they can be loyal to Pac. The song never had anything to do with Pac or anybody else it wasn't a diss track it was just rap.
Yep then got unalived the very next year, ruined his record label, got a few more people unalived because of his actions smh that worked out great huh😕
@@mh7067 That's not why big got killed. Big got killed because Suge lost Pac so dude did it for Suge. The guy that did it was a gang banger that knew who really killed Pac but he was also a associate of Suges. They didn't go after the guy who really killed Pac cause it was some street shit. They shot a rapper to ruine Diddys business cause Suge hated Diddy after Jake was killed by Wolf.
A man with a pair, or a man who hides behind a posse?
Pac was the biggest skitzo. One minute he wants to be Malcom X the next he’s some gangsta. He was a confused individual who was nothing but a fronter. And because he thought $hit was a game he got himself killed along with Biggie because of his antics. And he wasn’t even that good of a lyricist. More of a poet but he’s been elevated beyond what he really was.
I tell people all the time .. that song DID NOT drop after pac got shot .. it became POPULAR after pac got shot .. when I first heard it, it was on a DJ clue tape without the famous “diddy intro” (AS WE PROCEED) .. and it didn’t have a second verse.. u had to be in NY at the time to know that .. that’s why we always argue against that theory.
Saw Keith Murray in the mid 90s , 🔥 🔥 🔥 show
Murray is in my top 7
Wellllll this might actually make some sense because middle of LL 2nd verse and all of his 3rd verse on the original (non remix version) I Shot Ya kinda addresses that Biggie line in a way and he references his history and that he never fell off. 🤔
Yeah. When you put it like that, there definitely was some animosity between BIG and LL. But hell who BIG WASN'T mad at??? He was beefing with half the Wu-Tang Clan! SMH BIG needed to chill.
@@timmy841212 true but people don’t want to talk about that lol. In this case He probably was feelin himself a lil bit in the studio over a fire beat and LL was there and he threw a shot just like homie said.
It was a pac diss period ,why was it released after pac was shot and in jail
Also Rashaad Smith made "Doin It" Beat was made for Big and LL got it....that's why it has the Go Brooklyn sample in it. Definitely was some friendly competition at the least.
@@sunnywilliams5232that could have just been a strategy on puffy's end
Respect from Sierra Leone 🇸🇱 west African
Respect Bro 🇺🇸 🇸🇱!!!!!👍🏽
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2:38 so you remember her giving you rhythm but you don’t remember if y’all exchanged numbers or not. Riiiight
Right, you’ll never forget pulling Jada in the 90’s lol mama definitely was poppin at that time
This is crazy. I always wondered about “Who Shot Ya” vs “I Shot Ya” being made around the same time. Wish we had UA-cam back then!
Also, LL made a Biggie diss track called All World. He made it a music video, but it was taken off air after Biggie's passing. The only part of the song I've remembered was "Biggie, I know you want me to retire."
28 yrs later even with social media ppl still don't understand. They just weren't there. Oh well!
That was CG(Big Chris/Biggie) response to back seat of my jeep
I be like, damn Klept, you be forgetting Sh*t. Then I say, wait, that was 29 years ago. I can't remember sh*t from back then either. LOL
I barely remember last year
Poor diet
@@moneyman24258 naw I’ve been eating clean for almost 10 years. It’s age.
Shit I can
ikr lol...a lot of weed
I can believe that LL took that line and got in his feeling lol. LL was notorious for doing sneak disses too and getting in his feeling about young talent! That's why him and Canibus got into that rap beef which the latter won. But LL is still one of the best. He has a lot of hits!!!
Yes he even went @ EPMD on some bs
LL did not won the verbal war. At all
@@fortycalsmith1yes Eric Sermon said Russell Simmons told LL to hang with EPMD so he can get ba k in that lyrical zone and the joint they did together LL cool j dissed EPMD. Eric Sermon said that his self.
@@wesleyrobinson4949 what song was that cause I don't remember L dissing them on Rampage
@@koffigedhe said the Latter I thought he meant Canibus..I felt Cani won
What's so funny is that I was there that night at the Jason's Lyric party. I was in college at Morgan State at this time and my roommate from NYC had a friend who was in the music industry said he could get us in at the party. We drove all the way up to NYC that night went to the party. It was crazy because every rapper from the tri state area was there. I remember seeing Jada at the party. At first I didn't recognize her because she her hair cut short and it was blond. Lol, I also remember standing next to Biggie and seeing Anthony Mason big ass walking toward and standing a few feet from us.
That’s DOPENESSSSSS right there. Must have been a great time
Approximately How tall was biggie in person?
I know that night was crazy! LOL hip-hop parties were a trip back then I read.
@@Whoshotyaa I'm 6'.0 and Biggie was taller than me so he looked to be about 6'2 or 6'3.
@@timmy841212 Yeah, It was cool and I had to hold everything in trying not to be startstruck.
They should have had Klepto tell this story in Vibe back in 1995! I wholly blame Puff for releasing that record, knowing what it fueled. Puff and his damn ego though.
Oh my lord Junior Mafia first tape. You got to give this man his respect.
Klepto really had the skills to be the next breakout solo star from JM after Kim. Oh My Lord and White Chalk certified bangers off Conspiracy. Cease became bigger solo but he himself said he wasnt really into rapping as much as writing
This nigga is a east coast character everybody almost got Jada lol😂
s/o to Klepto. To this date the beat is crazy, no way you can hold onto this & not release immediately. The fact this man waited to drop record after Pac was shot was COLD BLOOD’d
That song was made before the studio shooting it was puffy that decided to release it after pac was shot.
Exactly
They don't hear you...heads too far up Tupac's ass....trust me I tried to tell them smh
The song was not made before then, they just had the beat before then. It was originally a Mary J Blige song before and Biggie had a verse on it. Then they took it from Mary and gave it to Big to change it and make it a Pac diss after the fact.
Facts!
And Puffy was a bitch for that.
Pac and LL were beefing over Quincy Jones daughter Kidada, way after these songs. Pac started dating her in 96 after she was with LL for like four years.
He sounds like he was fun to hang out with back in the day.
I been looking for the full interview of Klepto for the longest, why did'nt Art Of Dialogue put put it out!
Biggie had a lot of short friends. No wonder why he was biggie smalls…😂
They wasn’t short only few of them was but biggie was 6’3 6’4 something like that biggie was taller than jay z too
Lol Buddy look like a fun size Cee-Lo Green.
@barrettlovett2238 I think he’s at least 6 feet. There’s footage of him next to Puff in the Quad studio lobby.
@@barrettlovett2238😅😅😅😅😂😂
Klepto is probably 5'10 but shorter than only BIG and D Roc in the crew
LL always taking something to heart
Y’all think Keith Murray crazy when he said he first got up on the track. This clears up a lot of shit because LL ‘S I shot u. I alot of people such as myself thought that was a follow up diss to 2pac also
Anybody that listened (which a lot of people did) to Mary's My Life album already knew this...
Klept is keeping it 💯. A lot or the industry people didn’t want to publicly talk on it because of the heavyweight’s involved at the time but the streets new. I used to be around BIG in the clubs and kicked it with the same women. Remember when he was messing with my homegirl Denise. But I actually heard the Keith Murray original on a mixtape back in the days before they remixed it.
Jason's Lyric was released on September 28, 1994...Tupac shot on November 30, 1994
I was telling people for years that " who shot ya " was a direct Shot at James todd, ( LL. Cool J ).. But nobody was actually listening too the song & was feeding fire to burn where it shall not burn.. the media contributed too our Coastal Kings.. I miss them both soo much.. now klepto says it
That wasn't the point. This was literally after Pac got shot, and mix that Pac hearing in jail that Biggie & Puff knew the circles talking bout pulling on Pac, and a lot of radio interviews subtly teasing Pac being stuck in jail. Apparently Puffy knew this will piss Pac off because if the timing, but he released it anyway.
It was the WAY it looked & how the public reacted to it, cos ofc the public is gna think it was aimed at Pac!
So you know where to tell Jake, lame nigga Brave nigga, turned front page nigga
Does this sound like a diss at LL to you? What rapper was making front page in 94 in NY especially? Even if Big sent a line at LL, every line isn't.
Big`s former DJ said it years ago in a Big documentary that it was about LL, but no one went viral with the story. But if it was about Pac the story would have been all over the place.
@@PPHDocumentaries Facts yo, No Doubt.. bro 🎯 🇵🇦
@@jephtahcoe No, a lot of people thought the song was made to attack Pac but it wasn't. So now that they are finding out that it was made before he got shot, now they changing the goal post to Big or Puff releasing the song at a time to aggravate Pac to get publicity. That Who Shot Ya with Keith Murray was on NYC mix tapes before Pac got shot. Its on youtube, how do you think the individual who uploaded got it? Big ommited Keith Murray part and added a 2nd verse for Clark Kent because he wanted to Impress Clark Kent Because Clark Kent told Biggie he felt jay-Z was a better lyracist, but Big was the better rapper. The interview with Clark Kent talking about it is on YT. Its one of the interviews with Hot 97. Watch all of them till you find it. The First verse was partly about LL Cool J, the second Verse was big Trying to impress Clark Kent.
He not lying cause it was on MJB album My Life it was 1 of her interlude Keith Murray was killing that track
2PAC DID EVERY CELEB GIRL IN THE 90S BEFORE AGE 25, INCLUDING JADA, AND THIS MAN LAUGHING ABOUT 2PAC HAVING MADOONA PICTURE IN HIS ROOM. WHILE GETTING EXITED THAT HE TALKED WITH JADA 30 YEARS AGO.
By law by birthright, klepto is a solid person all around the board.
Factz🎯 Always been✊🏿✊🏿S/O 2 Klept BK SALUTE‼️ 🗽🫡🫡
How this guy almost pulled 90s Jada is beyond me.
He's a klepto
Ain't no fuckin way! 90s Jada was like the finest chick in the neighborhood
@@chalay2010 Facts 🤣
this was simply the punchline of his "story"
He can't even remember getting the number. I call 🧢
Yo, that's a hip hop history class right there. Im a go listen to both them joints.
Everybody had Jada before will had her lol and LL getting dissed on who shot ya is interesting
Wowww,Ty For this Interview I Always 🤔 Ty 🙏🏾
I believe this outta any other story. Biggie couldn’t just come out and say this was about one person. Because it was a competitive time. He could use it for his advantage for any other MC taking shots and say it’s for everyone. I love it. My top 5 favorite songs all time too🔥💯
Facts they just didn't think pac would come back like that ...pac was a real man ...he said names wasn't afraid of anyone...he said it ...SHOULDN'T SHOT ME
@@phillipfulton2927 Nah f that people definitely said names back then.Cube had no problem doing,snoop and Dre took shots at Luke
@@LanceG007 i meant in general but you're right
I'm so glad this interview is out bcz I have been telling niggas for years this and every tell me I'm bugging but Big had said that somewhere but it was when I was in high school, early part of high school when I saw that so I can't recall where it was from and I couldn't remember where I seen it. So I couldn't show niggas but now, ha haaaaa. (Hittin' my Jadakiss laugh)😂😂😂😂.
But then you do not remember getting a number or not 😂😂😂naaah this cap
PAC was at that event with Jada Pinkett too. September 30 1994. It’s the famous photos of PAC & Jada hugged up, she has short blonde hair and PAC was wearing white Karl Kani top with the backpack. Look it up.
I’m a Big and PAC fan 🤔 but more 2pac over Big due to time listening 🤔 and I truly believe Big wasn’t talking about 2pac on that song. It was just after what happen and the timing it drop 🤔 I mean hell, at a young age like 24 and 25 I would thought the same. A real shame how these 2 over talented brothers who was friends die so young and other people made hundreds of millions off them 😢
Yo keep booking this guy for interviews he tells good stories
People who wasn’t around don’t realize that the song was recorded in September in 94. Big and 2 Pac were still friends then. Even up until Pac actually got robbed and shot almost 3 months later. They still were friends even then. Pac was so full of shit… he was lying acting like he didn’t know who shot him. Pac knew exactly who was behind the shooting (Haitian Jack).. everybody knew that. Big knew about LLs reputation for gettin on tracks wit niggaz and sneak dissin em subliminally (EPMD) and said fuck it… I’mma slick strike first!
Biggie was talking to Anthony Mason defensively because his wife keep talking to Big at that party
LL said in a recent interview that he loved Big, and [agreeing with Klepto] he was in the studio when Big was writing his verse for the song. I dont think it was shots at each other, but more like friendly competition. You had to try to out do each other back in the day on the tracks. No one wants to be cooked on their own single.
Damn Klepto , good to see him around you still . Hawthorne and Nostrand Ave . Klep that's all I am going to say homie
LL dissed him right back on Loungin’ with Total ! LL the best to ever do it !
The best to ever do what??
Ummmm Hold The Mic 🎤 Bruh LL Is A GOAT ... BEEN In Tha Game For 40+Years, Name Your 40+ Year Relevant Artist. DON'T GET IT TWISTED THO 2PAC IS THE #1 GOAT 🫡😎🙏
@@Looney504 he still the nigga nobody want it with
So what you got your cashflow and escrow (damn), but your honey ran away like presto... alakazam.
...he aint watching you he rather watch his money pile
Etc etc
@@ispeakmucho smh I wouldn’t be surprised if he hit Faith too damn
Jada was so fly during that Jason’s lyric era. In the scene where she's sitting in the car while Jason loads the TV in the back gets me every time.😍
No wonder why they call this guy Klepto😂😂😅😅
Thanks for clearing this up for us!
Super insightful! It all lines up
Jada Pinkett was the truth back then, now days she's The Sorcerer of Will Smith. She just looked at Will and he smacked the 💩 out of Chris Rock.
It don’t matter when it was done. It matters when it was released. They chose to release it after Pac got shot at Quad Studios. He first heard it while in prison for the false sexual abuse charges.
Y'all keep saying they, it was Puff who had control, it seems like he still got people shook, won't say his name, it was Puff, not They 😕
Puffy and Bad Boy wasn't shit. It was definitely strategic on their part. BIG was definitely a guinea pig in this whole thing though I still don't think he's 100% innocent but when it comes to this song, I can believe he definitely had no intent aimed at Pac there.
It wouldn't have mattered when it was released. Tupac would have still be sensitive about it and you stans woukd still be stanning about it.🤷♂️
Sir, you NEVER almost had Jada. August didn't ALMOST have her🤍
Thank you for clarifying.
& basically reiterating that Puffy’s a 🐍 & a 😈
I love the analogy of Keith shanking people while spitting. That's an excellent description and visual by Klepto!
Such a classic story now after researching it ll cool j took a few shots at biggie
Big gave homage to LL also
“You know the epilogue by James Todd”
This song is officially about everyone now smh
A lot of these dudes (even though they close to Big) are just pulling shit out their ass.
you do know Pac wasn't shot when the song was made right?
@bigdog533 you do know everyone has a story about who the song was about right?
@@TubiTuesdays They can have whatever but the song was made before Pac was shot. That's not hearsay that's just facts
And I believe it was Clark Kent who confirmed this story on that new Angie Martinez series......you pac fans are such groupie haters.
Great interview. He seems like he does not have an agenda and is just relaying his perspective on how things unfolded.
Biggie supposed to get the doing it well beat but LL got it instead that's why biggie diss him
I think I remember reading about that.
Yup that’s why Rashad had the go Brooklyn in the beat
Would've been a great song with Biggie on it. I hated that LL song.
R.I.P BIG
I think both of them would have been ill on the remix
Yo what beat was that?????
2:07 Pac probably was dissin' Klepto👁🤣👁
@@ijumpjudy I'm trying 2 tell ya🤣😭🤣.....Kato
@@ijumpjudy yep DMX was about that crack pipe Pac would have bodied him like you wish Tupac would have bodied you lol you about fudge lol
@@ijumpjudy dmx wasn't about it he had no career lol just like you
@@ijumpjudy you the only one here with a billion UA-cam accounts 🤣 you can hide behind that computer and be the real gayster you are prayer boy your gay obsession with Tupac is worse then any female I have ever seen you have true feminine qualities sorry about me messing with you're sister she said I was bigger then you were you did nothing for her 🤣 🤣
Classic New Yorker! Klepto!
Regardless the song was released at the wrong time. They knew what they was doing. They just didn't expect Tupac to turn up then they want to bitch up 🤣💯
I think they thought its good 4 record sells to release it but it ended bad
Puff was tryina cause controversy
Puff got y'all scared too, keep saying They, say it with me please, It Was PUFF, not They 😕
@@ricol9291 We all know it was Puff ; but it's bigger than Puff which is why I say they . Scared 🤣 My criminal history shows otherwise Your misperception does not validate who I am 💯 . Have a great day .
What do you mean by wrong time? Nobody has to ask Pac for permission to put out a record before being shot.
THANK YOU!!!! I have literally been screaming this since 95'...LAWD!!!
Nah, bro. It was that old school line that made me feel it was about Pac because of his song “Old School.” Biggie’s ppl always gonna stay beating around the bush
Boy stop!!!!! Old school was released a whole year later!!!! Knock it off Stan!!
@@hendrix-giovannijohnson9701💯
Dope story, I believe him! About the song not the Jada story lol 😂
KLEPTOMANIAC WAS A FRESH FLY LIVE NIGGA WITH BARZ IN THE 90s 💯💯🤞🏿
What's rap did he do? I never heard of him
No he wasn’t ….. only Lil Kim and Cease was known. The rest of them dudes was just regular
@TJDuncan Lil Kim and Cease are more known but when the Mafia first started Klepto was more of a rapper than Cease. The Conspiracy album even has Cease rapping the least out of everyone
His name wasnt even buzzin in junior mafia none of them niccas only lil kim & lil cease,
That song on Conspiracy called Oh My Lord is basically Big and Klepto rapping back and forth. Cease had verses on the album but at this time was more of a writer
Is that CeeLo Green bro..😂😂😂
Wasn’t Tupac at the Jason’s Lyric premiere, which took place in LA? And wasn’t “Who Shot Ya” recorded at The Hit Factory in New York?
Even if what he says is true which I do believe by the way. Puff released it at a point where he knew Pac would feel a way about it.
The song was out on the bad boy mixtape before 2Pac got shot
Also after Pac started blaming biggie for shooting him
You gotta remember back then release dates even on singles weren’t instantly produced. That song could’ve been waiting months before it hit the streets but once you got shit in rotation to be put out you gotta release it
TIME is the water that grows a legend. That’s all I’m gonna say
....bro that aint nothing to brag about, you dodged a damn bullet
Jada in the 90s was that girl though
@dtraversodt ...tupac ain't want her, but Will did...which one are you?
@@dacommish23 i wanted her back then too
KLEPTO WAS GETTING FRESH BEFORE RAP THIS IS FACTS HE BEEN A JIG NIGGA
Facts he introduced Biggie to foreign brands due to him boosting Gucci and Fendi among other things😅
@ I don’t know why he didn’t finish interviewing him
Amazing insight! Keep up the good work!
3:04 Where was Cease when all this goin down
Wasn't Cease and Nino the youngest in the group? 😅 probably at Chuckie Cheese or something
Klepto lookin’ like Terry Crews and Ye had a baby. 😅
Puffy is a slimy mf’er. Big had no business in LA. The best rapper I’ve heard and I’m from the BX but Big repping BK is nothing but respect. Sad part he didn’t even want any of that EC/WC beef. Sad.
@TheGr8-1 i keep saying that Diddy was real mad at Big for having a side label deal with Un. Always tell people look at everything Puff and to a degree Jay was doing after his death
@@dtraversodt good point.
Puff played everyone like his father Satan aka the Devil. Who’s Know as the father of lies. 1st Peter ch 5 vs 8. Who’s going back & fourth on the earth like a roaring lion. Seeking whom he may devour. This is the reason Gods says his people are devoured for their of wisdom. Hosea ch 5 vs 6
Bro looks like ceelo and sound like Tyson
If you want your story told
No interviewers erupting you
Being all in the videos...
Then come to
Art of Dialogue
“Old School, New School, Need To learn though”…..aimed at Cool J. Those that don’t believe it was for LL and aimed at Pac WANT it to be about Pac ….then Cool J answered with the Posse joint “I shot ya”.
Also....research on how LL got the Doin It beat from Rashad Smith. Things become clearer.
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No one cares
@@mattsm00thwho gives a fuck who don't care.
LL would have smoked Biggie the same way he smoked Canibus and Kool Moe D.
The only one that's smoking is you for saying something so stupid! LL wasn't a spitter like that! Not even close.
@philb.1502 I spoke facts
@@rodneyhiggins8562 LL wasn't a lyrical dude like that! To compare him to Biggie lyrically is absurd!
In a freestyle battle, Biggie got LL
@@dtraversodtBigg Woulda TOASTED COOL J👈🏿 Mad LL Run Out His Shoes-- BIG WAS LYRICAL INCLINE DIFFERENT 🎯🎯🎯
You need to ask him questions about Jr.Mafia or are there going to be all Jr.Mafia reunion?? Or why his verse was removed on Jr.Mafia " Player's anthem" single/video?🤔🤔🤔
i believe they wasn’t signed 2 Bad Boy, same with Tha Outlawz, they signed with Death Row after Tupac died
@@ijumpjudy when you finally got your tupac posters you got on your knees hoping pac was real 🤣
@@ijumpjudy ok jump judy keep jumping you need a job you should get off welfare looking twig ass a job and get off your knees blowing your dad better get back to church that priest isn't done with you in the closet get out of your mothers basement🤣