As a Mexican it bothers me when developed countries critique developing countries when they try and grow, as if like they didn’t do the exact same or worse.
Exacto. La hipocresia de Occidente en su maxima expresion. Durante dos siglos quemaron carbon, petroleo, gas a placer para desarrollar sus industrias, talaron millones de arboles para construir sus lineas de ferrocarril, masacraron decenas de miles de nativos en EEUU y ahora se preocupan dando lecciones del ''costo ambiental'' cuando otros paises quieren mejorar su calidad de vida. Por suerte este ''Occidente'' hipocrita, agresivo, depredador esta cada dia mas cuestionado y declinante. Saludos desde Argentina.
So agree! It’s because they want to keep you poor and poverty stricken, why doesn’t California stop the Highspeed train, it’s damaging the ecology of California. BS.
Why don't you guys talk about Vulcan Materials Company? An american company that actually mined that land, to sell the lime stone, gravel and more in the USA, btw there is a picture taken from above in a plane that the president was flying on were you can actually see the damage that company caused and just barely notice the Mayan Train on the side, a hotel dug in the sinkholes too and were planning on making hotel rooms hanging inside the sinkholes but i mean, nobody is talking about it, how odd 🤔
Es ridículo que vean una obra en la que si se hubiese construido en la época del ferrocarril en México ni lo verían, lo que es actual y como comentas sobre la extracción de materiales en lugares como este no se ven por qué no le interesa a la gente y mucho menos a quien tiene negocios en México.
Bububu and bub this place is so beautiful I can't hardly wait to visit such a grate placeamlo doing grate thing but chayoteros are against president lopez obrador
You should make another video about the Canadian mining companies and their impact in Mexico territory too, both economic and environmental, just to make a more fair approach to reality.
The people who live in the proposed train route were consulted before the project and overwhelmingly voted in favor of the train. Environmental impact and mitigation studies were also done a year before the start of construction. Then came along US funded NGO’s to derail the project using the environment as their cover. These same “environmentalists” didn’t protest when European and US hotels were propped up around the Riviera Maya and surrounding jungles without any regulations. I despise when developed countries act high and mighty as if their highways and other necessary infrastructure for connectivity didn’t affect their environment. They just want to keep us underdeveloped. 💯
jaja no hay tales MIAS de esa cosa, las que se presentaron tenían errores incluso en el mapeado con coordenadas UTM, todo se hizo a lo idiota como la refinería que no refina.
I think that’s an overwhelming trust on a government. Think we need to be open to both arguments. In Mexico, most if not all times, growth and profit is only for those in positions of power. Only time will tell. In hope that it does benefit the people and the country as a whole.
"Growing" like this in 2023 is not actually growing.. This "erect a bunch of 'MODERN' structures" mentality isn't modernity any more. Look at China -destroying their ecosystem to build some ugly concrete roach motels for people to live in, and now they're finding they've got a massive pollution problem - and rapidly declining birth rate, because surprise surprise once people "modernize" by moving to the big city - they want less children. This idea of "modernization" through destructive industrialization doesn't work. It will increase global warming which sucks for Mexico, because it's already unbearably hot in many places.
@@garretth8224 no is called tren maya is for tourism you are thinking about the other railway sistem that will conect the golf of mexico with the pacific
Nope, this is just about ego and not about tourism. There was no need to build such a thing. Many studies were done decades before for passenger trains. They only found that the only section profitable was the Cancun to Tulum section but warned that the environment cost was going to be huge. When the Lopez run for the presidency, he promised to do a rail loop called "tren Maya" in the Yucatan Peninsula. Conveniently, this train is connected to Lopez's state (Tabasco) and very close to his personal property. There is a law that says that for any government project has to show that it's going to be profitable in order to go ahead but several studies showed that this project as a whole is not profitable. Not to mention that the huge environmental damage. There were many law sues and most ended up in the supreme court because the supreme court was going to against the project, Lopez then declared the project a National Security project. So the sues can't get to the court until someone challenges the National security denomination before the courts. The opposition is doing that but the Supreme Court is busy with many unconstitutional laws that Lopez has instructed through his zoombies in the congress and senate to pass. This is about the stubbornness of the Lopez presidency.
@@garretth8224There is minimum cargo exchange within the peninsula. In fact most of the cargo or trade are conducted in the Gulf of mexico and the Caribbean. Quintana Roo is mostly a tourist state. Yucatan is more industrial than Quintana Roo and uses its ports to trade with the rest of Mexico, the US and the European union. Campeche is an oil state, they don't refine they just ship oil to other states.
As someone who's driven across the Yucatan Peninsula (several times) I can tell you right now that there is nothing there. If anything with this new Maya Train project they've FOUND NEW UNKNOWN prehistoric artifacts that would've never been found otherwise.
Como alguien que tiene conocidos arqueólogos , y vive en Yucatan debo decir que no los han descubierto antes debido a que el presupuesto asignado era nulo y no importaba , por la presión para documentar (no salvar) todo lo que se consiga se aumentó exponencialmente el presupuesto
Funny how the environmentalist never said anything regarding all the hotels in Cancun, Tulum etc. A train is a lot more ecological than roads as it minimizes forest destruction and eliminates CO2 emissions so stop making it seem like its the worst idea. This is the best possible outcome as the damage can be controlled and trees can be replanted while still bringing progress to the native people and prevent them from emigrating. I can’t wait for it to be done and go contribute to their local economy. Don’t act like you’ve never been on vacation to a nice beach? Think before you write… all construction started with nothing there and it has an effect in ecosystems!
@@garretth8224 yes that is true but in this project they are considering that and they are building multiple safe passages for wildlife. Again, it appears like the government understands the importance of being ecological friendly and they are trying to be extremely careful to not have a negative impact while still moving forward with development for the local people. The guy who supposedly quit his job is not native to that area, he is already used to the benefits of development and has the luxury to supposedly “quit” his job to go “defend” the ecosystems but the locals hardly have any jobs, running water or other modern services. So easy to complain about development when you are an outsider and you don’t have to live in precarious situations. Let the local people decide, like they already have and let them live in their homeland and still enjoy a decent life! All the corporate media complains about immigration but they also want to keep people enslaved to poverty unless is the rich taking advantage and exploiting their resources!
Did you forget all the cenotes that are being affected. Mexico president amlo lied and is protecting criminals. He should used all that money for a better health care he promised and medicine. Many lives lost already.
In Mexicos defense, developed countries were able to conduct this type of environmental destruction decades before environmental protection was a thing. Not saying it’s right, but is it fair to hold developing countries upto the same standards as developed ones? Like cut them some slack, let them catch up then impose restrictions.
The only right thing would be to provide them with financial incentive to not have to do these projects. If you had made a mistake in the past (that mistake being neglection of environmental protection) wouldn't you then try to have people learn from your mistakes?
@@meuuder I don’t think that’s the right approach either. We had our Industrial Revolution and it was diabolically destructive. We can’t tell developing countries they can’t have theirs, we can just hope they do it in a clean and conscientious way.
@@lukeh3020 you're just repeating what the guy above said. I think we should provide incentive and knowledge to lessen the strain on the environment instead of sidelining the escalation. How can you be against that?
Finally someone gets it. This is for the people of southern Mexico that have been long forgotten. There’s a saying I rather have a full and feed human than fat jaguares!
No, Mexico is about to be denominated a developed country in a few years. This development is not profitable as many studies have shown and it's damaging the environment hugely. Lopez has broken many laws and he knows this that it's why he denominated this project a National Security project so he could bypass the laws. But his denomination is being challenged and it's working through the many courts until it gets to the Supreme Court. Let's hope it gets reverses and the project gets stopped
If they committed some of the profits the train would generate into preserving the rest of the forest, I think that would be the best and more realistic outcome
They should had planned for and elevated railway if they really wanted to preserve the ecosystem. This current Mexican government is a totally negligent for profit criminal organization.
they failed to mention that the government has the most ambitious reforestation project with 'sembrando vida'... and that its also building the largest eco park in the world... it will be called 'parque ecologico lago de texcoco' if you want to look into it.
They are planting more than 1 million acres of trees in that area, did they tell you that and that pseudoenvironmentalist works for kimberly clark who in turn gets money from usaid not to mention that kimberly clark ís one of the biggest polluters in mexico
Luckily trees can grow back and many more can be planted.. I understand why people are upset, but it is better than building a bunch of highway systems… Hopefully it’s just one maglev train because that would be spectacular and hopefully this can help the people of Mexico not just the ones who are profiting from it.
@@15stars We can still reduce our environmental impact with how we build cities and infrastructure. We live on this planet so we should probably take care of it. We don't have anywhere to escape to.
See, I am all here for conservation. But we cannot mandate that countries historically exploited by colonialism not develop infrastructure in the name of environmentalism. Document the ecological cost and mitigate accordingly.
Exactly what I'm thinking. Videos like this always makes me think that the insider sees the developing and least developed countries as a zoo and not an actual place with actual people living in it.
I disagree with your biases, but I do agree that ALL countries should be able to develop. It really is a matter of staying in the past or moving forward towards the future. Some things are worth the sacrifice (as sacrifice is ultimately losing something for some benefit or the greater good). At the same time, it's obviously important to maintain ecology and history - the former of which, if lost, would have immense flow on effects, everywhere.
The big irony is that they’re also upset about them having to go through old ruins which means that their ancestors had already cut down that forest to build the ruins
@@briansanchez6699 Yeah, Mayans really did a whole lot of deforestation. Also, people in the south east don't struggle as much with starving, they can pretty much just raise their hand and find food. They are still very poor tho.
The impact of a train is minimal compared to a road. Sometimes people need to take a step back. I'm sure their other forests would have been just fine if they had trains instead of a billion rotten diesel trucks and unmaintained cars just ruining the air.
@Slowdownkids, The Tren Maya will be a fossil fuel based one (The worst one: High Sulfur Diesel!). And this is not all, Yucatan Peninsula does not have rivers, all it's water are subterranean water interconnected bodies which are polluted by that train construction. Didn't you know that? It's terrible!
@@Playami Yucatan is a very different and unique kind of jungle, it's not India, it's only water is subterranean and all of that is to be polluted with no chance to restore its pristine condition.
@@TheDANnl yeah, thats why in that specific place is going to be a bridge.. or like what they call it.. puente atirantado just google it 'puente atirantado tren maya' there are more than 200km of the 1500 km that are in bridges.... in a couple of years well look back at this post and one of us is going to be right
@Dev JB the program is to plant consumable trees, either for wood or for fruit harvesting, so those will be or cut again in the future, or be single crop, affecting the local flora and fauna.
It’s never good to destroy the Forrest jungle ect. However, if ur trying to move forward to stabilize urself as a first world country and get out at least at as a developing country then yes this is absolutely a “must do at any cost” because it will change the lives forever. More jobs better econonomy better wages everything changes for the better so yes, it has to be done. It’s not taking a lot anyways but Latin America needs to change for the better and this is a huge step and mexico seems to be the only country that’s able to afford these changes.
Mexico has the 12th highest gdp in the world… and it grows every year. In some parts you absolutely can live a first world lifestyle, but there is a lot of wealth inequality that needs to be fixed. Just like in the U.S. though, there is wealth inequality everywhere.
Yes, Mexico can and wants to afford these changes and that's why it will continue building these high speed trains all around the country; in the next 6 years Mexico will build 3 big lines in the center and the north of the territory…
When Europeans did the same a century ago, it was all fine & justified. Now others are on a path of progress and everybody finds a problem with that... Go and demolish half of New Jersey and put some trees there. Let's see how Freedom Folks would react to that... ( Not a word on how trains are efficient mode of transportation and would save on fossil fuel based pollution, when compared to the same amount of people being transported by roads ) These lobbyists don't find any problems in expanding highways and urban sprawl. But it's pathetic to see them against public transportation projects that are meant to serve common people.
You don't think perceptions change within a century? Humans used to think earth's resources were near endless. Nowadays we know we are the reason for the next mass extinction.. Progress is great but not at all cost. This project is not all sunshine. They wanted to do it along the coast, but hoteliers lobbied against it. Call that progress?
@Ashish Saxena The Tren Maya will be a fossil fuel based one (The worst one: High Sulfur Diesel!). And this is not all, Yucatan Peninsula does not have rivers, all it's water are subterranean water interconnected bodies which are polluted by that train construction. Didn't you know that? It's terrible!
1. We didn't know better, climate change wasn't even a concept a century ago. 2. We didn't really care until more recently. Demolishing a city and planting a forest is not the same thing as this. You can't accuse Americans in general of trying to dictate what you do. The US gov has no issues with this construction.
Check this out. There is a tolll road from Cancun to Merida they made as same deforestation than the train but nobody say anything about this and this private road have no benefits for tha population
@Imyourfather225 it's not just a passenger train, it's also a commercial train route. Meaning less usage and pollution form carbon dioxide from deasel engines. It can haul infinite amounts of product.
@@DiegoGarcia-lf3mhenough to rebuild and stabilize the ecosystem. Also this was more of a choice for the local people that would be affected and the majority was for it. I think that has more Merit that other mexicans and foreigners agreeing or not to build it.
People could have easily made the same argument against roads being built. Trains actually are a more efficient infrastructure for distribution and transportation. I took a trip in 2021 that encompassed the entire run of the Tren Maya but it was by car. Cancun - Tulum- Bacalar- Xpujil - Calakmul - Escarcega - Palenque - Campeche - Merida- Valladolid - Cancun What was my carbon footprint from that trip? How much risk did I take by using a car which can be stolen, crashed, break-downs, insurance, etc.? Let the tourists pay for the infrastructure that benefits the citizens of the area it's built in. And a lot of new national treasures are being unearthed and preserved thanks to the Tren Maya.
Roads were built with a purpose in mind to solve and improve mobility. What exactly is this project actually solving? It’s nothing more than a propaganda campaign project, foolishness of the current government. - Nobody in this country asked for another goddamn train in exchange of our jungles and cultural heritage -
a majority of problems could be avoided if the railway line was placed adjacent to the highways and completely elevated. this would reduce the environmental effect a whole lot.
@@ViralNewslatam what does that have to do with anything? so because they did the wrong thing that justifies us doing the wrong thing? what does the wildlife have to pay for it? destroying all the forests will only destroy the world so what good is it development for then? Also las SELVAS are not like the european forests, they are way more important to the global environment, you people are a disgrace odian a la maquina imperialista y al mismo tiempo quieren hacer todo como ella!
@@ViralNewslatam "You did it last time so why cant we now" is insufficient and honestly a joke of an argument. Europeans did it during the Industrial revolution, a time where people thought mercury is the solution to coughs. Im not saying developing countries must not progress at all, but that with the knowledge of the modern day comes the responsibility of protecting the environment and what little of rainforests we have left. There are always better ways to do things, and this is definitely one of them
this is bullshit misinformation ..the jungle is growing .. Mexico is planting 1 billion trees, cleaning up illegal dumpsites, reducing gas vehicles, etc. No cenotes are at risk, no archeological sites are bein destroyed, etc.
Repeat after me: the train was not built on virgin forest, but on tracks abandoned for forty years. The roads existed for more than 70 years and what was done was to take advantage of what already existed. To say anything else is to lie. It was built with the agreement of the native peoples and other inhabitants precisely to avoid the destruction of the jungle. Leaving these people in misery and telling them to take care of the jungle is what paper ecologists have been doing. In the last five years in Mexico, more than 1,000 million endemic timber and fruit trees have been planted on the lands of poor farmers who are paid a daily wage to take care of the trees.
First world countries damaged the environment so much that we can not afford to allow that trend to continue.I propose that the wealthy countries share part of the wealth they acquired by that process also will be nice of them if then return all the historical items they stole .
I am worried that what happened to the Roman Forum will happen to those Mayan ruins. The Roman Forum got a giant avenue built right on top of a part of it, destroying part of a priceless historical site. Same happened in Buenos Aires, where they chopped parts of the historical Cabildo building off to make 2 avenues. Economic development should never destroy historical sites.
well its going around the historical sites not that close for that to happen and about over half the rail road already existed just needed renovating and needed to get connected.
I am worried people are starving. People take for granted the have paved streets, homes with no leaks, jobs, electricity, food, water! So because some people that aren’t even Mexican believe or think that it is beneficial to the world that Mexicans live in poverty, that’s fine we should just except it? I think not! You take for granted that you have had these things your whole life you don’t know what these people feel or want. I’d much rather have this train that will provide jobs and opportunities. These historical sights will be here when we’re gone. On the plus side, they didn’t build anything too close to these sites. Actually they’ve found thousands of new Mayan artifacts in the new part of the rail system, not all is new just upgraded the railway was already there.
YES IT IS WORTH IT. The maya still exist and live in terrible conditions, if this do something to integrate them into the larger country its worth it, whatever it costs.
The jungle took over the Mayan population cities and almost hid them from view. With help from local and federal governments, hopefully the jungle can be encouraged to regrow over time.
Mexico is a vast country. Tourism has already destroyed the ecology of locations such as Cancun, Puerto Valharta etc. Perhaps now with this knowledge there can still be progress but in sympathy with the ecology not destroy it
they believe they are going to get more tourists if they build more hotels, highways , airports, but the true is that people will stop going mexico because it is loosing its beauty in the name of what the call progress...
In Sri Lanka, number of elephants are being killed by crossing train route every year. In that sense, I can foresee the ominous impact that the animals in that part will have to face in the future.
How can they "reforest"? We're talking about bulldozing ancient trees, and disrupting species ecosystems. You think you can just REPLACE these with some new trees, most probably GMO made, and everything will be just as good as before??
He is an environmentalist and is concerned about a narrow path that required some tree removal, yet he drives a gas vehicle and pollutes the air. What a hypocrisy
The USA obliterated anything that was a Native American landmark. Very little has survived and much of history was re written. Mexico at least has a connection to it’s culture.
This is good, but Mexico should also focus on improving its infrastructure. Specifically, its roads and rail lines to connect manufacturing centers to ports and the US-MX border. Mexico is very behind and needs to catch up ASAP...
Most people against this project were actually on favor of it because the proposed route was completely different; it was to follow an existing road, limiting ecological damage to a minimum. But after creating the path for it and placing foundations the Government realized it was going to be way out of budget, so they went for the easiest solution; cut a straight line across jungle and over fragile limestone caves, nothing will go wrong for sure. That's what made a lot of people oppose the project, the lies. And when people complained about it the President said "Oh, now it turns out everybody is an ecologist" in a mocking tone. And also he declared the project "Of National Interest" meaning the Courts can't halt construction and citizen can't request detailed expenses sheets. So it is a pretty grey project, corrupt if you want to keep it hidden from prying eyes.
Yeah, the parts of it that follow the pre-existing road aren’t a terrible problem (other than the traffic caused by the road closures lol) They completely changed the scope of the project without consulting the locals. My family is from Yucatán, and I know firsthand that many of them don’t want the train. I hate all the dumb Americans and Europeans watching this video and just saying “trees shouldn’t stop progress! Infrastructure for the win 🎉” because they don’t know anything about what’s going on 🤦♂️
Youve got to allow them to develop. Mexico gets shit on because the economy sucks. Let them improve, unfortunately there will be some sacrifices. Whats more important? The history or the lives of the actual people?
The same price when in Europe several countries open up the Black Forest to build ways for railroad and automoviles... They forget everything they have done for progress...
Well its either that or a highway. Get over it. The highway would do far more damage. They are far wider and we all know how people in cars love to litter. This is by far the best outcome.
There needs to be wild life corridors. A way for wild life to go over the train. Bridges in mapped out areas were we know there is high traffic areas of wild life.
I was going to watch this video, but a minute into the Chayote I got enough to stop watching it and move on to something less politicized. Viva Mexico!
I think Over bridge should be built in regular distances to connect the two part of forest and the railway line should be walled. So that animals don't come under train.
This is the British take, but I bet they are very silent about the destruction of rio tinto, etc. if you go to states like Oregon and Washington the destruction of trees is unbelievable
Why cant thay build the train track elevated abow the tree line on pilers like some higways are built that way the trees can grow freely without intefering with the train and animals can pass safly under it without geting hurt
Funny how those environmentalists don’t say anything about that, that company you mentioned has destroyed like 2 thousand square miles of land and underground rivers but they are silent.
Train is great media of transportation cleaner and faster is going to bring business and job to the Mexican from the peninsula Yucatan. All corps don’t like this kind of projects. the jungle was split it already with the highway…… Merida to Cancun 2 hours plus the price for Mexican is going to be cheaper a lot of people from that area never enjoy the beaches of Cancun.
Why people from the 1st world is so entitled to tell us what to do and how to do it, they have tons of passenger trains we have none, also their companies come here to extract resouses for them, Mexico should stop caring what they think
Just let this project be built and prosper. And then try to build many bridges or underpass for the animals and plant more trees on both ends of the jungle and make it a sanctuary....
Swear Half the people on these comments won't ever go to mexico to visit nature. Let the people build their own infrastructure without us interfering damn
Rails is better for environment than driving in EVERY METRIC. HSR opposition are not “environmentalists”. They are NIMBYs. They are literally delaying transitioning to renewable energy and all-electric transit by opposing EVERYTHING.
I mean This current government has done the most in term of reforestation about half of the rail road tracks already exist and are just getting connected and not all stretches had trees some didn't have any already.
People are tired of migrating to the United States looking for work. Now people have work in their region and can use that to support their families. It’s not easy when the cost of living is so high and people have no money because there is no work.
Wow thank you for your kind heart, I really find it difficult to trade myself I am looking forward to find an Expert to help me out when I ran into you
Develop countries development project doesn't harm environment but developing countries development projects degrade environment....What a world we're living in...😂
What about the damage of mine corporations in the north of Mexico? Why don’t you go as well to investigate that. Also, why there is no “research” or report about the hotels and how they’ve destroyed the coral reefs? I am not saying this is ok, but the south-east of Mexico has been forgotten for all until now…
yeah I'm sure there's a conspiracy against the south of Mexico, the evil reptilians don't what for it to develop and everyone is against the magnificent sacred AMLO who cannot do evil...
The only criticism I have about the Maya train is that it is not a bullet train. Should have been a bullet train so people can get from Cancun to Mexico City in a matter of minutes while gazing at the beautiful mountains scenery, specially during the wet season. Mexico hasn’t taken advantage of that, there’s a whole natural world unknown to Mexicans & tourists, Mexico has grand canyons, lush green valleys that are just hidden. It’s a real shame tbh.
Mexico invests in infrastructure and development and they begin to criticize, it almost seems that it bothers many that Mexico stops being an underdeveloped country to continue exploiting it. 😂
It is disgusting this report who is built on a false narrative rather than asking the true Mayan communities, but rather you create a report from pseudo environmentalist who in the past were no were to be found in the construction of these tourist mega projects to Cancun destroying communities and cenotes. What don’t you do your interviews with Mayan communities and how do they feel about the El Tren Maya?
It bothers me all the "rich" countries for criticizing this. And the mexican supporting them. Or tell me, was it environmentally friendly the railroads built in all of England? or the decimation of your forest for building ships en Spain? or invading half the world to destroy jungle and plant tobacco? Poverty in that area is 76% of the population. Think about it. Out of 10 people you know almost 8 have no money to buy food. When you see in the news "Mexico is a poor country", you see this area, average poverty on mx is 41% with out this area is almost at 20%. Yes the trains has a cost on the jungle, but its a chance to reduce that gap, in a place that has NEVER seen this type of investment.
the biggest joke here, they think this will boost tourism, but dealing with the cartels would ACTUALLY do that and be good for the Mexican people as a whole
Wow I can't believe what they done to the jungle and the holes of many species we will be paying the price for this deforestation in many years to come . RIP
Either way the project has to be done we can’t all just say no because of a jungle, where you live I can guarantee you before all that was created it was all forest or jungle etc and nobody complained about the environment. I mean it’s 2023.
@@ag97z72 absolutely but trust me that will create unbalanced environment and it will have a major impact it has been home to millions of species that are only found in that area of the world.
Maya train is great and has more pros than cons. There is no perfection. Nobody says a word of the ecosystems caused by countless of international huge luxury hotel resorts in Cancun Playa del Carmen and Tulum and Mayan Riviera
This is a high price to pay just to move tourists. Meanwhile Mexico’s existing railroads and ports need to be modernized. Growth for the sake of growth leads to collapse.
That interview of the President was about a construction of a bridge and road when he was Gobernor of México City 🤣. Funny how this videos misinform a lot.
Fake news! Train and stations only occupy 10,000 hectares, some 25,000 acres, while Mexican portion of Mayan jungle has 14million hectares, 1,400 times more.
@@myboysd5772 yeah!? What about nato facism? It won't be occurring if nato would have stayed where it should be You Western are blind or act to be? Can you imagine what will be the reaction of usa if russia deploy there nuclear weapons in Cuba and Mexico,,,,, oh I remember it happening and usa just shitted 😂 in pants and warned Cuba Just grow up western just grow up from colonial mindset 🙏
Leave them alone, please, stop criticism at once and let the country develop, 🇲🇽 fell behind 80 years in previous administrations, but there are railroads in 🇪🇺, 🇺🇸, 🇨🇳, 🇯🇵 and other parts of the 🌎 and I don't see any of you complaining
As a Mexican it bothers me when developed countries critique developing countries when they try and grow, as if like they didn’t do the exact same or worse.
Exacto. La hipocresia de Occidente en su maxima expresion. Durante dos siglos quemaron carbon, petroleo, gas a placer para desarrollar sus industrias, talaron millones de arboles para construir sus lineas de ferrocarril, masacraron decenas de miles de nativos en EEUU y ahora se preocupan dando lecciones del ''costo ambiental'' cuando otros paises quieren mejorar su calidad de vida. Por suerte este ''Occidente'' hipocrita, agresivo, depredador esta cada dia mas cuestionado y declinante. Saludos desde Argentina.
Sounds like you’re very sensitive.
I agree with you . That is the way it is..
So agree! It’s because they want to keep you poor and poverty stricken, why doesn’t California stop the Highspeed train, it’s damaging the ecology of California. BS.
@@Dgo-24 why? He displayed true facts man.
Why don't you guys talk about Vulcan Materials Company? An american company that actually mined that land, to sell the lime stone, gravel and more in the USA, btw there is a picture taken from above in a plane that the president was flying on were you can actually see the damage that company caused and just barely notice the Mayan Train on the side, a hotel dug in the sinkholes too and were planning on making hotel rooms hanging inside the sinkholes but i mean, nobody is talking about it, how odd 🤔
Back then they got paid to keep silence..
Because they paid Business Insider not to talk about Vulcan Materials.
Es ridículo que vean una obra en la que si se hubiese construido en la época del ferrocarril en México ni lo verían, lo que es actual y como comentas sobre la extracción de materiales en lugares como este no se ven por qué no le interesa a la gente y mucho menos a quien tiene negocios en México.
Todos los chairos al rescate 😂
Bububu and bub this place is so beautiful I can't hardly wait to visit such a grate placeamlo doing grate thing but chayoteros are against president lopez obrador
You should make another video about the Canadian mining companies and their impact in Mexico territory too, both economic and environmental, just to make a more fair approach to reality.
>=[ no you can't criticize first world countries gotta beat the developing countries to summit
They want to make a campaign to stop México's developement.
Isn’t this railroad for Gringo tourists tho?
@@tjq15 most likely
I have been there
The people who live in the proposed train route were consulted before the project and overwhelmingly voted in favor of the train. Environmental impact and mitigation studies were also done a year before the start of construction. Then came along US funded NGO’s to derail the project using the environment as their cover. These same “environmentalists” didn’t protest when European and US hotels were propped up around the Riviera Maya and surrounding jungles without any regulations.
I despise when developed countries act high and mighty as if their highways and other necessary infrastructure for connectivity didn’t affect their environment. They just want to keep us underdeveloped. 💯
jaja no hay tales MIAS de esa cosa, las que se presentaron tenían errores incluso en el mapeado con coordenadas UTM, todo se hizo a lo idiota como la refinería que no refina.
I think that’s an overwhelming trust on a government. Think we need to be open to both arguments. In Mexico, most if not all times, growth and profit is only for those in positions of power. Only time will tell. In hope that it does benefit the people and the country as a whole.
When other country want to grow .US media always compare cost enviromental damage
"Growing" like this in 2023 is not actually growing.. This "erect a bunch of 'MODERN' structures" mentality isn't modernity any more. Look at China -destroying their ecosystem to build some ugly concrete roach motels for people to live in, and now they're finding they've got a massive pollution problem - and rapidly declining birth rate, because surprise surprise once people "modernize" by moving to the big city - they want less children. This idea of "modernization" through destructive industrialization doesn't work. It will increase global warming which sucks for Mexico, because it's already unbearably hot in many places.
It is true...they always paint it on a different(ugly) picture...to make people feel sorry for it.
If you think destroying natural resources is growth, then your knowledge speaks for itself
@@bomega2818 because life is paradox
@@bomega2818 obviously you have not understanding of growth
The problem is that tourists want to leave their concrete jungle and visit natural areas without the struggle of nature.
The railway is for mostly cargo.
@@garretth8224 no is called tren maya is for tourism you are thinking about the other railway sistem that will conect the golf of mexico with the pacific
They don’t want nature they want ✨nature✨
Nope, this is just about ego and not about tourism. There was no need to build such a thing. Many studies were done decades before for passenger trains. They only found that the only section profitable was the Cancun to Tulum section but warned that the environment cost was going to be huge. When the Lopez run for the presidency, he promised to do a rail loop called "tren Maya" in the Yucatan Peninsula. Conveniently, this train is connected to Lopez's state (Tabasco) and very close to his personal property.
There is a law that says that for any government project has to show that it's going to be profitable in order to go ahead but several studies showed that this project as a whole is not profitable. Not to mention that the huge environmental damage. There were many law sues and most ended up in the supreme court because the supreme court was going to against the project, Lopez then declared the project a National Security project. So the sues can't get to the court until someone challenges the National security denomination before the courts. The opposition is doing that but the Supreme Court is busy with many unconstitutional laws that Lopez has instructed through his zoombies in the congress and senate to pass.
This is about the stubbornness of the Lopez presidency.
@@garretth8224There is minimum cargo exchange within the peninsula. In fact most of the cargo or trade are conducted in the Gulf of mexico and the Caribbean. Quintana Roo is mostly a tourist state. Yucatan is more industrial than Quintana Roo and uses its ports to trade with the rest of Mexico, the US and the European union. Campeche is an oil state, they don't refine they just ship oil to other states.
As someone who's driven across the Yucatan Peninsula (several times) I can tell you right now that there is nothing there. If anything with this new Maya Train project they've FOUND NEW UNKNOWN prehistoric artifacts that would've never been found otherwise.
AMLO is a piece of trash though, mediocre president lobbying for his friends’ projects just like the trash before him. Only this affects wildlife.
Como alguien que tiene conocidos arqueólogos , y vive en Yucatan debo decir que no los han descubierto antes debido a que el presupuesto asignado era nulo y no importaba , por la presión para documentar (no salvar) todo lo que se consiga se aumentó exponencialmente el presupuesto
Funny how the environmentalist never said anything regarding all the hotels in Cancun, Tulum etc. A train is a lot more ecological than roads as it minimizes forest destruction and eliminates CO2 emissions so stop making it seem like its the worst idea. This is the best possible outcome as the damage can be controlled and trees can be replanted while still bringing progress to the native people and prevent them from emigrating. I can’t wait for it to be done and go contribute to their local economy. Don’t act like you’ve never been on vacation to a nice beach? Think before you write… all construction started with nothing there and it has an effect in ecosystems!
Plenty of wildlife will get run over by the trains if there is no safe way through.
@@garretth8224 yes that is true but in this project they are considering that and they are building multiple safe passages for wildlife. Again, it appears like the government understands the importance of being ecological friendly and they are trying to be extremely careful to not have a negative impact while still moving forward with development for the local people. The guy who supposedly quit his job is not native to that area, he is already used to the benefits of development and has the luxury to supposedly “quit” his job to go “defend” the ecosystems but the locals hardly have any jobs, running water or other modern services. So easy to complain about development when you are an outsider and you don’t have to live in precarious situations. Let the local people decide, like they already have and let them live in their homeland and still enjoy a decent life! All the corporate media complains about immigration but they also want to keep people enslaved to poverty unless is the rich taking advantage and exploiting their resources!
Environmental destruction because of the tourism has been denounced before.
Some people never paid attention nor is doing now
Did you forget all the cenotes that are being affected. Mexico president amlo lied and is protecting criminals. He should used all that money for a better health care he promised and medicine. Many lives lost already.
Just because you like a president that doesn’t make everything he does ok . Remember the airport. He’s not the smartest
In Mexicos defense, developed countries were able to conduct this type of environmental destruction decades before environmental protection was a thing. Not saying it’s right, but is it fair to hold developing countries upto the same standards as developed ones? Like cut them some slack, let them catch up then impose restrictions.
You hit it on the head pal !
The only right thing would be to provide them with financial incentive to not have to do these projects. If you had made a mistake in the past (that mistake being neglection of environmental protection) wouldn't you then try to have people learn from your mistakes?
@@meuuder I don’t think that’s the right approach either. We had our Industrial Revolution and it was diabolically destructive. We can’t tell developing countries they can’t have theirs, we can just hope they do it in a clean and conscientious way.
@@lukeh3020 you're just repeating what the guy above said. I think we should provide incentive and knowledge to lessen the strain on the environment instead of sidelining the escalation. How can you be against that?
@@meuuder who’s providing it? Because if it’s just a form of charity it’s not going to work
Developing countries need to develop
Thank you 🙏
Finally someone gets it. This is for the people of southern Mexico that have been long forgotten. There’s a saying I rather have a full and feed human than fat jaguares!
I made concrete and asphalt for my working career and sometimes there is a thing as going too far with 'development'.
@@exhaustedcoffee2603 yeah keep thinking that way and you'll soon won't have either the jaguar nor food to feed the human idiot!
No, Mexico is about to be denominated a developed country in a few years. This development is not profitable as many studies have shown and it's damaging the environment hugely. Lopez has broken many laws and he knows this that it's why he denominated this project a National Security project so he could bypass the laws. But his denomination is being challenged and it's working through the many courts until it gets to the Supreme Court. Let's hope it gets reverses and the project gets stopped
If they committed some of the profits the train would generate into preserving the rest of the forest, I think that would be the best and more realistic outcome
They should had planned for and elevated railway if they really wanted to preserve the ecosystem. This current Mexican government is a totally negligent for profit criminal organization.
they failed to mention that the government has the most ambitious reforestation project with 'sembrando vida'... and that its also building the largest eco park in the world... it will be called 'parque ecologico lago de texcoco' if you want to look into it.
They are planting more than 1 million acres of trees in that area, did they tell you that and that pseudoenvironmentalist works for kimberly clark who in turn gets money from usaid not to mention that kimberly clark ís one of the biggest polluters in mexico
Knowing mexico they would cut corners and keep the rest of the money
Market based economies have no interest in maintaining the environment unless their a dollar amount associated.
Luckily trees can grow back and many more can be planted.. I understand why people are upset, but it is better than building a bunch of highway systems… Hopefully it’s just one maglev train because that would be spectacular and hopefully this can help the people of Mexico not just the ones who are profiting from it.
You can replant a tree but you can't replant an ecosystem.
It's the cost of progress save as much as possible but its something that must be done for Mexico to elevate itself
There is no path in life that does no harm. There's always a cost for improving the quality of life. We all live in places that once were forests.
Indeed, walk the path of least destruction. But destruction is an inevitability.
Some of us don't lol
Exactly how was every city built, I mean we gotta live somewhere.
@@MichaelMenard89 that's weak thinking look at those tribes in Africa living better lives than most of us who have technology
@@15stars We can still reduce our environmental impact with how we build cities and infrastructure. We live on this planet so we should probably take care of it. We don't have anywhere to escape to.
See, I am all here for conservation. But we cannot mandate that countries historically exploited by colonialism not develop infrastructure in the name of environmentalism. Document the ecological cost and mitigate accordingly.
Exactly what I'm thinking. Videos like this always makes me think that the insider sees the developing and least developed countries as a zoo and not an actual place with actual people living in it.
I disagree with your biases, but I do agree that ALL countries should be able to develop. It really is a matter of staying in the past or moving forward towards the future. Some things are worth the sacrifice (as sacrifice is ultimately losing something for some benefit or the greater good). At the same time, it's obviously important to maintain ecology and history - the former of which, if lost, would have immense flow on effects, everywhere.
I agree, I'm all for environment protection, but this will benefit very much the people there
@@Asmodeus_1finally someone understands. All the activists are not even in Mexico my people are starving!!
@@Asmodeus_1This is for the better
I doubt their ancestors would want them to starve to protect their old monuments.
The big irony is that they’re also upset about them having to go through old ruins which means that their ancestors had already cut down that forest to build the ruins
@@briansanchez6699 Yeah, Mayans really did a whole lot of deforestation. Also, people in the south east don't struggle as much with starving, they can pretty much just raise their hand and find food. They are still very poor tho.
The impact of a train is minimal compared to a road.
Sometimes people need to take a step back.
I'm sure their other forests would have been just fine if they had trains instead of a billion rotten diesel trucks and unmaintained cars just ruining the air.
And the parakeets live all over the continent. These activists shoulda been around 50 years ago.
@Slowdownkids, The Tren Maya will be a fossil fuel based one (The worst one: High Sulfur Diesel!). And this is not all, Yucatan Peninsula does not have rivers, all it's water are subterranean water interconnected bodies which are polluted by that train construction. Didn't you know that? It's terrible!
true... i've been on a train that runs tru a jungle in India... trust me... the jungle is still there thriving
@@Playami Yucatan is a very different and unique kind of jungle, it's not India, it's only water is subterranean and all of that is to be polluted with no chance to restore its pristine condition.
@@TheDANnl yeah, thats why in that specific place is going to be a bridge.. or like what they call it.. puente atirantado just google it 'puente atirantado tren maya' there are more than 200km of the 1500 km that are in bridges.... in a couple of years well look back at this post and one of us is going to be right
Well, the president was technically correct when he claimed he would not cut down a "single" tree.
Right
lots and lots and lots more
😂
From what I saw there was no cutting at all.
Straight up bulldozed.
@Dev JB the program is to plant consumable trees, either for wood or for fruit harvesting, so those will be or cut again in the future, or be single crop, affecting the local flora and fauna.
Mexico wants and needs to modernize one way or the other
It’s never good to destroy the Forrest jungle ect. However, if ur trying to move forward to stabilize urself as a first world country and get out at least at as a developing country then yes this is absolutely a “must do at any cost” because it will change the lives forever. More jobs better econonomy better wages everything changes for the better so yes, it has to be done. It’s not taking a lot anyways but Latin America needs to change for the better and this is a huge step and mexico seems to be the only country that’s able to afford these changes.
Well said.
Mexico has the 12th highest gdp in the world… and it grows every year. In some parts you absolutely can live a first world lifestyle, but there is a lot of wealth inequality that needs to be fixed. Just like in the U.S. though, there is wealth inequality everywhere.
Yes, Mexico can and wants to afford these changes and that's why it will continue building these high speed trains all around the country; in the next 6 years Mexico will build 3 big lines in the center and the north of the territory…
When Europeans did the same a century ago, it was all fine & justified. Now others are on a path of progress and everybody finds a problem with that...
Go and demolish half of New Jersey and put some trees there. Let's see how Freedom Folks would react to that...
( Not a word on how trains are efficient mode of transportation and would save on fossil fuel based pollution, when compared to the same amount of people being transported by roads )
These lobbyists don't find any problems in expanding highways and urban sprawl. But it's pathetic to see them against public transportation projects that are meant to serve common people.
You don't think perceptions change within a century? Humans used to think earth's resources were near endless. Nowadays we know we are the reason for the next mass extinction.. Progress is great but not at all cost. This project is not all sunshine. They wanted to do it along the coast, but hoteliers lobbied against it. Call that progress?
@Ashish Saxena The Tren Maya will be a fossil fuel based one (The worst one: High Sulfur Diesel!). And this is not all, Yucatan Peninsula does not have rivers, all it's water are subterranean water interconnected bodies which are polluted by that train construction. Didn't you know that? It's terrible!
@@TheDANnl You're stupidly mistaken, it's a hybrid train and uses electricity.
1. We didn't know better, climate change wasn't even a concept a century ago. 2. We didn't really care until more recently.
Demolishing a city and planting a forest is not the same thing as this. You can't accuse Americans in general of trying to dictate what you do. The US gov has no issues with this construction.
@@garretth8224 I know US has no problems with it. It's just an example...
Check this out. There is a tolll road from Cancun to Merida they made as same deforestation than the train but nobody say anything about this and this private road have no benefits for tha population
Right. These videos are just political propaganda against Morena.
a road that is used by millions, the train won't move the same volume of goods and people, that is a fact.
@@Imyourfather225 so it’s ok if we destroy the environment and we get revenue in exchange? How much is the correct amount?
@Imyourfather225 it's not just a passenger train, it's also a commercial train route. Meaning less usage and pollution form carbon dioxide from deasel engines. It can haul infinite amounts of product.
@@DiegoGarcia-lf3mhenough to rebuild and stabilize the ecosystem. Also this was more of a choice for the local people that would be affected and the majority was for it. I think that has more Merit that other mexicans and foreigners agreeing or not to build it.
People could have easily made the same argument against roads being built.
Trains actually are a more efficient infrastructure for distribution and transportation.
I took a trip in 2021 that encompassed the entire run of the Tren Maya but it was by car.
Cancun - Tulum- Bacalar- Xpujil - Calakmul - Escarcega - Palenque - Campeche - Merida- Valladolid - Cancun
What was my carbon footprint from that trip?
How much risk did I take by using a car which can be stolen, crashed, break-downs, insurance, etc.?
Let the tourists pay for the infrastructure that benefits the citizens of the area it's built in.
And a lot of new national treasures are being unearthed and preserved thanks to the Tren Maya.
Roads were built with a purpose in mind to solve and improve mobility. What exactly is this project actually solving? It’s nothing more than a propaganda campaign project, foolishness of the current government. - Nobody in this country asked for another goddamn train in exchange of our jungles and cultural heritage -
👏🏽 well said sir
That biologist acts as if he lives in a tree and the school he went to to become a biologist is hovering in the air.
a majority of problems could be avoided if the railway line was placed adjacent to the highways and completely elevated. this would reduce the environmental effect a whole lot.
And raise the cost and the time it'll take to complete, plus, you'll be digging, remember the sinkholes? So doing it this way is not the best
And tell us why the Europeans didn't do it then and instead cut down all their forests?
@@ViralNewslatam what does that have to do with anything? so because they did the wrong thing that justifies us doing the wrong thing? what does the wildlife have to pay for it? destroying all the forests will only destroy the world so what good is it development for then? Also las SELVAS are not like the european forests, they are way more important to the global environment, you people are a disgrace odian a la maquina imperialista y al mismo tiempo quieren hacer todo como ella!
@@ViralNewslatam "You did it last time so why cant we now" is insufficient and honestly a joke of an argument. Europeans did it during the Industrial revolution, a time where people thought mercury is the solution to coughs. Im not saying developing countries must not progress at all, but that with the knowledge of the modern day comes the responsibility of protecting the environment and what little of rainforests we have left. There are always better ways to do things, and this is definitely one of them
this is bullshit misinformation ..the jungle is growing .. Mexico is planting 1 billion trees, cleaning up illegal dumpsites, reducing gas vehicles, etc. No cenotes are at risk, no archeological sites are bein destroyed, etc.
Repeat after me: the train was not built on virgin forest, but on tracks abandoned for forty years. The roads existed for more than 70 years and what was done was to take advantage of what already existed. To say anything else is to lie. It was built with the agreement of the native peoples and other inhabitants precisely to avoid the destruction of the jungle. Leaving these people in misery and telling them to take care of the jungle is what paper ecologists have been doing. In the last five years in Mexico, more than 1,000 million endemic timber and fruit trees have been planted on the lands of poor farmers who are paid a daily wage to take care of the trees.
This is far better than building 6 lane highways. Less pollution and more economically viable in long term.
Wonderful jobs are needed and important to Mexico development
You cannot really enjoy nature without the struggle of nature...
First world countries damaged the environment so much that we can not afford to allow that trend to continue.I propose that the wealthy countries share part of the wealth they acquired by that process also will be nice of them if then return all the historical items they stole .
its infrastructure for people, so it's worth it
Blech
Thanks for presenting both sides of the story - it seems like both sides were fairly represented here. That’s rare these days.
NOT
@@SpartanChief2277 why not? What was misrepresented?
I am worried that what happened to the Roman Forum will happen to those Mayan ruins. The Roman Forum got a giant avenue built right on top of a part of it, destroying part of a priceless historical site.
Same happened in Buenos Aires, where they chopped parts of the historical Cabildo building off to make 2 avenues.
Economic development should never destroy historical sites.
well its going around the historical sites not that close for that to happen and about over half the rail road already existed just needed renovating and needed to get connected.
What's more important: historical sites, natural environments, humans living in poverty?
There are things that should be sacrificed for progress
You need to worry about your own business my man not ours.
I am worried people are starving. People take for granted the have paved streets, homes with no leaks, jobs, electricity, food, water! So because some people that aren’t even Mexican believe or think that it is beneficial to the world that Mexicans live in poverty, that’s fine we should just except it? I think not! You take for granted that you have had these things your whole life you don’t know what these people feel or want. I’d much rather have this train that will provide jobs and opportunities. These historical sights will be here when we’re gone. On the plus side, they didn’t build anything too close to these sites. Actually they’ve found thousands of new Mayan artifacts in the new part of the rail system, not all is new just upgraded the railway was already there.
YES IT IS WORTH IT. The maya still exist and live in terrible conditions, if this do something to integrate them into the larger country its worth it, whatever it costs.
Good for Mexico!!! Most Mexicans are happy about this project!!
probably yes, but that is because they are ignorants, they dont understand that people will stop going mexico because of projects like this...
@@cibervilla2594 hahaha no
@@cristianvelazquez9705 we will see..
The jungle took over the Mayan population cities and almost hid them from view. With help from local and federal governments, hopefully the jungle can be encouraged to regrow over time.
Mexico is a vast country. Tourism has already destroyed the ecology of locations such as Cancun, Puerto Valharta etc. Perhaps now with this knowledge there can still be progress but in sympathy with the ecology not destroy it
they believe they are going to get more tourists if they build more hotels, highways , airports, but the true is that people will stop going mexico because it is loosing its beauty in the name of what the call progress...
In Sri Lanka, number of elephants are being killed by crossing train route every year. In that sense, I can foresee the ominous impact that the animals in that part will have to face in the future.
Mexico is not Sri Lanka, man.
@@mikelarrieta1 It still has plenty of other life to get run over. Apparently only big animals count to you.
@@mikelarrieta1 Yes that's true. Sri Lanka is not a hub of drugs, gang crimes and mass shooting. 😁
@Joe I talk about facts not racism.
@Joe Mexico is a lethal country for years. You cannot deny that. It's a fact that we can see real. Why don't you admit it?
I live in cancun and the govt is doing alot to reforest and protect the flora and fauna beyond whats done before
no es verdad---lie
@@autentico3284 , this video was 13 minutes of lies lol!
How can they "reforest"? We're talking about bulldozing ancient trees, and disrupting species ecosystems. You think you can just REPLACE these with some new trees, most probably GMO made, and everything will be just as good as before??
that is just not true
He is an environmentalist and is concerned about a narrow path that required some tree removal, yet he drives a gas vehicle and pollutes the air. What a hypocrisy
The USA obliterated anything that was a Native American landmark. Very little has survived and much of history was re written. Mexico at least has a connection to it’s culture.
Seems like a very straight and wide swath of jungle for an environmentally low impact rail line
Just imagine if we have the same thoughts during the industrial revolution, development is needed in those places too
This is good, but Mexico should also focus on improving its infrastructure. Specifically, its roads and rail lines to connect manufacturing centers to ports and the US-MX border.
Mexico is very behind and needs to catch up ASAP...
Mexico did it today.... (The trains... with 7 new rail lines)
Most people against this project were actually on favor of it because the proposed route was completely different; it was to follow an existing road, limiting ecological damage to a minimum. But after creating the path for it and placing foundations the Government realized it was going to be way out of budget, so they went for the easiest solution; cut a straight line across jungle and over fragile limestone caves, nothing will go wrong for sure.
That's what made a lot of people oppose the project, the lies. And when people complained about it the President said "Oh, now it turns out everybody is an ecologist" in a mocking tone. And also he declared the project "Of National Interest" meaning the Courts can't halt construction and citizen can't request detailed expenses sheets. So it is a pretty grey project, corrupt if you want to keep it hidden from prying eyes.
You're misinformed. 😂
Yeah, the parts of it that follow the pre-existing road aren’t a terrible problem (other than the traffic caused by the road closures lol)
They completely changed the scope of the project without consulting the locals. My family is from Yucatán, and I know firsthand that many of them don’t want the train.
I hate all the dumb Americans and Europeans watching this video and just saying “trees shouldn’t stop progress! Infrastructure for the win 🎉” because they don’t know anything about what’s going on 🤦♂️
@@mikelarrieta1 Prove you are informed before accusing other's of being misinformed.
@@garretth8224 yeah! ervilla is misinformed & you too, garrita I'm the proof you ask for.
Youve got to allow them to develop. Mexico gets shit on because the economy sucks. Let them improve, unfortunately there will be some sacrifices. Whats more important? The history or the lives of the actual people?
American corporations are pissed because is the Mexican government that is doing it and not them 😂
The same price when in Europe several countries open up the Black Forest to build ways for railroad and automoviles... They forget everything they have done for progress...
Well its either that or a highway. Get over it. The highway would do far more damage. They are far wider and we all know how people in cars love to litter. This is by far the best outcome.
There needs to be wild life corridors. A way for wild life to go over the train. Bridges in mapped out areas were we know there is high traffic areas of wild life.
There are quite a number of animal crossings. They aren't dumb
They literally say this in the video
It literally said there will be a lot of those in the video...
@@coolboss999 ok, let’s see them build it
@@SpartanChief2277 k, let’s see them actually build them…
How about you mind your business… Mexico is a free country and we do far more than other countries to protect the environment.
As Britney Spears named one of her songs: Mind Your Business B*tch!
I was going to watch this video, but a minute into the Chayote I got enough to stop watching it and move on to something less politicized. Viva Mexico!
I think Over bridge should be built in regular distances to connect the two part of forest and the railway line should be walled. So that animals don't come under train.
why do they judge mexico for the good it does for its people
I’m excited for them. This will be great for them
People are animals too, and the ones on the peninsula are struggling, this train will help them.
This is the British take, but I bet they are very silent about the destruction of rio tinto, etc. if you go to states like Oregon and Washington the destruction of trees is unbelievable
Let’s put those artifacts in museums and build that track!!!!
Why cant thay build the train track elevated abow the tree line on pilers like some higways are built that way the trees can grow freely without intefering with the train and animals can pass safly under it without geting hurt
Vulcan Materials and predatory practices, let’s talk about them next Business Insider.
Let us also remember that one of the largest ecocides in Quintana Roo was carried out by the American company Vulcan-Calica
Funny how those environmentalists don’t say anything about that, that company you mentioned has destroyed like 2 thousand square miles of land and underground rivers but they are silent.
Train is great media of transportation cleaner and faster is going to bring business and job to the Mexican from the peninsula Yucatan.
All corps don’t like this kind of projects. the jungle was split it already with the highway……
Merida to Cancun 2 hours plus the price for Mexican is going to be cheaper a lot of people from that area never enjoy the beaches of Cancun.
i support the jungles of mexico
and i am from pakistan
Thank you from a Mexican.
Why people from the 1st world is so entitled to tell us what to do and how to do it, they have tons of passenger trains we have none, also their companies come here to extract resouses for them, Mexico should stop caring what they think
Lmao the us is barely first world.
@@garretth8224 I was referring to Europe, everybody knows the US is a third world country but very rich
Well, we have two: Tren Maya and Tren El Insurgente
Funny how the narrator calls mexico Central American 😅
Well, Yucatán is geographically in Central America
of course is central america, bunch of apes
Just let this project be built and prosper. And then try to build many bridges or underpass for the animals and plant more trees on both ends of the jungle and make it a sanctuary....
Swear Half the people on these comments won't ever go to mexico to visit nature. Let the people build their own infrastructure without us interfering damn
who's interfering?
This project is wonderful
Rails is better for environment than driving in EVERY METRIC. HSR opposition are not “environmentalists”. They are NIMBYs. They are literally delaying transitioning to renewable energy and all-electric transit by opposing EVERYTHING.
I mean This current government has done the most in term of reforestation about half of the rail road tracks already exist and are just getting connected and not all stretches had trees some didn't have any already.
People are tired of migrating to the United States looking for work. Now people have work in their region and can use that to support their families. It’s not easy when the cost of living is so high and people have no money because there is no work.
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Develop countries development project doesn't harm environment but developing countries development projects degrade environment....What a world we're living in...😂
What about the damage of mine corporations in the north of Mexico? Why don’t you go as well to investigate that.
Also, why there is no “research” or report about the hotels and how they’ve destroyed the coral reefs?
I am not saying this is ok, but the south-east of Mexico has been forgotten for all until now…
Its because of how much money tourism to Cancun brings in.
exactly
yeah I'm sure there's a conspiracy against the south of Mexico, the evil reptilians don't what for it to develop and everyone is against the magnificent sacred AMLO who cannot do evil...
Yes, Developing Countries Need to Develop.
What crime did humankind do to deserve Politicians 🤦🏿♂️
We sinned
The only criticism I have about the Maya train is that it is not a bullet train. Should have been a bullet train so people can get from Cancun to Mexico City in a matter of minutes while gazing at the beautiful mountains scenery, specially during the wet season. Mexico hasn’t taken advantage of that, there’s a whole natural world unknown to Mexicans & tourists, Mexico has grand canyons, lush green valleys that are just hidden. It’s a real shame tbh.
Mexico invests in infrastructure and development and they begin to criticize, it almost seems that it bothers many that Mexico stops being an underdeveloped country to continue exploiting it. 😂
It is disgusting this report who is built on a false narrative rather than asking the true Mayan communities, but rather you create a report from pseudo environmentalist who in the past were no were to be found in the construction of these tourist mega projects to Cancun destroying communities and cenotes. What don’t you do your interviews with Mayan communities and how do they feel about the El Tren Maya?
It bothers me all the "rich" countries for criticizing this. And the mexican supporting them. Or tell me, was it environmentally friendly the railroads built in all of England? or the decimation of your forest for building ships en Spain? or invading half the world to destroy jungle and plant tobacco? Poverty in that area is 76% of the population. Think about it. Out of 10 people you know almost 8 have no money to buy food. When you see in the news "Mexico is a poor country", you see this area, average poverty on mx is 41% with out this area is almost at 20%. Yes the trains has a cost on the jungle, but its a chance to reduce that gap, in a place that has NEVER seen this type of investment.
There’s already an extended network of wide and empty roads, the train could have just followed those existing paths.
It's following abandoned raíl lines already
The hotel associates put up a fierce fight against that. They were originally was going to go along exiting highways.
the biggest joke here, they think this will boost tourism, but dealing with the cartels would ACTUALLY do that and be good for the Mexican people as a whole
The whole world use to be forest and jungle before cities this is something that has to be done
Can't wait to use it. 🤗 Love train Maya ❤
Wow I can't believe what they done to the jungle and the holes of many species we will be paying the price for this deforestation in many years to come . RIP
The train is designed to make the most minimal amount of damage to nature
What did the mayans do to build their cities?
Either way the project has to be done we can’t all just say no because of a jungle, where you live I can guarantee you before all that was created it was all forest or jungle etc and nobody complained about the environment. I mean it’s 2023.
@@ag97z72 absolutely but trust me that will create unbalanced environment and it will have a major impact it has been home to millions of species that are only found in that area of the world.
Vulcan has destroyed pretty much everything in mexico , IS should make a vid about it.
I want to ride that Train!!
why can't they build a bridge for the line.... it boosts tourism even more also good for the ecosystem
Maya train is great and has more pros than cons. There is no perfection. Nobody says a word of the ecosystems caused by countless of international huge luxury hotel resorts in Cancun Playa del Carmen and Tulum and Mayan Riviera
People can say whatever but Im glad Mexico is starting a project and actually finishing it to grow and generate money. Bc living in poverty Sucks.
Los árboles fueron reubicados no salgan con sus mmds
This is a high price to pay just to move tourists. Meanwhile Mexico’s existing railroads and ports need to be modernized. Growth for the sake of growth leads to collapse.
That interview of the President was about a construction of a bridge and road when he was Gobernor of México City 🤣. Funny how this videos misinform a lot.
wow 1 stright line for the train across the forest wont hurt
Most of the people that live in the area want this, so please shush and let us develop our country.
Let Mexico be! The people voted for the Mayan train 🚆
The oceans will boil in 500 million years. Human progress is the only means by which life can escape this fiery fate.
You mean 5 billion years, that is when our sun will kill us. We are more likely to kill ourselves far before that anyways.
Fake news!
Train and stations only occupy 10,000 hectares, some 25,000 acres, while Mexican portion of Mayan jungle has 14million hectares, 1,400 times more.
The US should be spending money helping them with this instead of sending it to Ukraine
Of course they need to help Ukraine against Russian fascists.
@@myboysd5772 yeah!?
What about nato facism?
It won't be occurring if nato would have stayed where it should be
You Western are blind or act to be?
Can you imagine what will be the reaction of usa if russia deploy there nuclear weapons in Cuba and Mexico,,,,, oh I remember it happening and usa just shitted 😂 in pants and warned Cuba
Just grow up western just grow up from colonial mindset 🙏
We don’t need American help
Leave them alone, please, stop criticism at once and let the country develop, 🇲🇽 fell behind 80 years in previous administrations, but there are railroads in 🇪🇺, 🇺🇸, 🇨🇳, 🇯🇵 and other parts of the 🌎 and I don't see any of you complaining