Mate, love how you do your review presentations. No BS or trying to be a comedian, you just get straight into the real world stuff, very easy to watch and listen to. Well done.
Not sure if anyone else notice it. But both left hand side steps are bent about the same on both trucks. So they must be about the same height from factory. Good video.
Hi 4X4 Australia, I've just seen the CURRENT AFFAIR regarding the issues of the current FORD RANGER. Issues such as suddenly braking at 80 km/h, dash board screen showing nothing and poor customer service. In your future videos, COULD YOU PLEASE INCLUDE CURRENT ISSUES WITH THE VEHICLE (any vehicles) and WHAT THE MANUFACTURERS DOING ABOUT IT (fixes). Your videos influences how our hardworking Australians buy their knew vehicles. You will provide GREAT SERVICE to our community by providing not just the POSITIVE and NEGATIVE reviews about the vehicle but also the actual issues with it. This way, the MANUFACTURERS can be put on notice, up their standards and giving the manufacturers the idea CUSTOMER SERVICE should be their number one priority. Now that's a concept, PASSIONATE ABOUT CUSTOMER SERVICE.
I would say the Hilux is not bad, it’s still good at whatever is thrown at it! It’s just that the Ranger has set a very high benchmark with the new generation model…
Hilux is just mediocre. It's not great at anything, its not bad at anything. Toyota just do what they have to at a bare minimum to keep top of the sales charts. Last to bring out lane assist, adaptive cruise, rear vents for back seat passengers... have they put a light in the glove box yet?, seriously mine doesn't have one Look at landcruiser 80/105/200 or 79 series. through the roof $wise and they just keep on keeping on. Want bang for expensive buck.... its Toyota. You'll work it out once it's time to sell.
@@supercruiser4925 Love how some of you Toyota fan boys bash other manufactures. Toyota is not perfect in reliability either and have a few class-action lawsuits filed against them to prove it.
I installed one on my 2012 Wildtrak.One of the best investment one can make.Not as fancy as on the new Ranger, but with a 5 inch screen on top of the dash that can fold flat, it's great for parking, and seeing in front of the vehicle.
The Ranger looks great outside, but wow that interior is several steps above anything else on the market right now. I'm not sold on the biturbo 2.0, hopefully the 3.0 turns out to be a good lump.
I had the bi-turbo 2020 wildtrak. Now driving the new wildtrak bi-turbo (because it'll take well over 6 months to get the V6). It's a bit more refined in the new one. I was worried about something as small as a 2l in 2020, until I watched a towing comparison with a 3200kg caravan and the 2l was significantly better than the old 3.2 I've also had the old 3.2ltr and the bi-turbo 2.0 has more grunt and smoother than that was.
@@matthewh8005 I've just upgraded from a 2020 wildtrak with the 2.0 and put 84,000km on it. Was happy with it. Now driving the new one with the 2.0 I agree with the reviewers that in the new Wildtrak the 2.0 and transmission has been refined a little. If there wasn't a 6+ month wait for a v6 I would have grabbed that, but no regrets on the 2.0 (significantly better than the old 3.2 & 6 speed which I've also had)
Let's not forget the most important thing said. "Ranger has a brand new engine" I think if I was going to buy the new Ranger, I would wait a few years till they mastered the build on the engine and pick up anything that goes wrong with it etc. The reasons Toyota's are so good is because when the new gen comes they really fine tune the reliability of their motors. If they find any problems they sort it out fast.
@@danusually6189 Yeah just did some reading. It's actually used in Ford Territory too LOL! Impressive.. Also said the most powerfull 3.0 700Nm was used in Range rover sport and disco sdv6. And we all know how great the range rover sport and disco are for reliability hahahahahaha
@@markharcourt2214 Don't forget Range rover sport and Disco sdv6 hahahahaha What a pos engine blows turbos at 150k on the regular 10k turbo bills So excited to not buy that car ever
The ranger though, keeps traction control active in the front wheels when you go into 4L with the diff lock on. The rest of the other pickups don't do that. But great video though, just wish they added slightly more torque in the V6 Ranger.
When it comes to the amount of torque am sure they were considering the longevity of the engine, as they update the model, they'll increase the power and torque ever so slightly but just enough not to compromise the lifespan of the engine. These are still work horses despite their appeal as lifestyle vehicles
@@MutsyChils Absolutely Boety, that's why I'm a Toyota guy. Running a gd6 @ 110 000kms and still strong as new. Goes to the mines, goes to the farm, pulls a trailer once a while
I like the ranger, I have the 3.2lt model but what I don’t get is why aren’t any of the reviewers talking about all the issues the new ranger is having. I really want to update to the new model but until all the issues are dealt with I won’t touch one with a 10ft pole.
I had a good laugh when old mate said “Nothing wrong with driving this Hilux over long days behind the wheel” with his voice shaking from the horrible jittery ride the Hilux is known for! That says it all for me.
I have a Toyota Hilux Rugged X on order which will arrive in December, (order placed begining of this year) not sure to go ahead with it or cancel it and get the Ranger wildtrak
I'd still take the Hilux any day. Wouldn't be seen dead in a Ranger( plus I don't own a Jet Ski). Everyone I know that has one has had issues. One mates blew up at 20,000 km. f that. My 2021 Sr5 Hilux hasn't missed a beat and is a amazing off road.
A new ranger owner here, hilux is still rugged king but for ranger tech was amazing. For offroad i still into the hilux but comfort is for the ranger still. The ranger feel lighter to drive so far.
I think the ranger will dominate if Ford can keep up with sales. If the v6 is reliable it will dominate all the other utes including the Hilux. Next years Amarok will be a great addition but I think the Ranger will be on top for the next couple of years at least.
Like the new ford ranger but I just don't like the fact you have to go into the display unit to lock up the rear diff. Would not want to flood the ford for that reason
Is it true with prolonged exposure to water crossings and corrugations the electric steering rack fails and a new genuine ford ranger electronic steering rack costs 8 to 10 grand if you can find one ?
Driving now an XLT for 2 months and wish I had an SR5. The interior linings are not good quality and the lag can make for unsure driving. Plus I feel like a flog teenager driving it. Trading it in.
G'day, Not sure how much I can believe once you said the Ford is the only V6. If you got that wrong what else is not quite right. I'm looking forward to comparing the V6 Ranger to the two 3.0L V 6 duel cabs I have owned over the last 10 years. (Navara ST-X 550 and Amarok Ultima)
yes we still are waiting here in the US for the new ranger . no diesels here . nice if we could get the Everest as the explorer $50k US 2.3 4cy is a 3row mall -mom- moblie. not much of a. off roader no low range
It's inevitable that the Hilux will have full-time 4wd since that is the foundation of the Landcruiser. I look forward to purchase when they have the same drivetrain as the Landcruiser.
I suspect Ford would have resolved most of the issues with the 10 Speed auto gearbox by now, after all the dramas with the previous generation Ranger. Which leaves the engines - and to which I think the bi turbo will be more reliable than the V6, as its a far newer design. The V6 was originally sourced from Citroen and due to the original front wheel drive packaging, the crankshaft was made incredibly compact so the V6 could be mounted in an east-west orientation. Unfortunately, the crankshaft is extremely short - very narrow castings on the throw between main and big end journals. I believe this is a weak point for the V6 motor and the internet is littered with examples of snapped crankshafts. Let's hope the brains trust at Ford Australia have made suitable changes to beef up the crankshaft and introduced design changes to the big end bearings so they don't develop a habit of spinning on the block.
@@tempestv8 Citroen or Land Rover? A lot of people have said it comes from Land Rover, which was then put in the F-150 which had identical HP and Torque to what it has now.
@@motorpolitan8884 both Citroen and Land Rover adopted the engine as it as a collaborative effort between Ford and PSA Group (Peugeot and Citroen were part of PSA). As such PSA vehicles like the Citroen D6 and the Peugeot 607 sedans were running around at the same time as Land Rover Discovery 3 with this same engine. Remember that Ford owned Land Rover at that time, and needed to replace the TD5 motor - it would have been horrendously noisy for the likes of the Discovery 3, so Ford repackaged the 2.7 litre TDV6 that was used in the front wheel drive Citroen and Peugeot sedans.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_AJD-V6/PSA_DT17 This handy article talks about the origins of the Lion V6 engine. Land Rover did not have the funding to develop a new engine, and under the ownership of Ford, various engines from Ford's vast divisions was put into the Land Rovers. The TDV6 came from Ford Dagenham UK factory. The 4.4 litre TDV8 in the Range Rover came from Ford Chihuahua Mexico factory. Only just recently has Land Rover cut ties with Ford for the supply of their engines, as Tata has injected sufficent funding to develop in-house engines (Ingenium)
@@tempestv8 When the engine was redesigned in 2018 to go in the F-150, the crank was changed to a stronger forged unit and with better bearings. There's not been any failed that I've seen (JLR also got the new crank at the same time).
The retention of traction control with the diff locked is a big advantage for the Ford. But you know what? The Toyota TC system is so good that the rear locker almost becomes obsolete. I kid you not, I have done a couple of comparisons with my Fortuner and it makes no difference, locked or not. In fact the risk of damage is increased with it on because the TC is turned off. And I am talking about some tricky mud holes as well as VHC tracks including Blue Rag and Billy Goats Bluff.
@@vevohoeyo no, the toyota is supreme offroad without a diff lock because the TC is 10 times better than the ford's. I have had experience with both. The ford needs a difflock or it struggles with traction. The TC is slow to respond and allows way too much wheel spin before applying brake pressure The toyota rarely needs a difflock because the TC is so good at distributing drive to all four wheels with minimal wheel spin. It always impresses me with how good it is. It is almost as good as Landrover TC. But you are right, turning off the TC in the toyota is dumb, and only actually disables the car. That's why I rarely use the diff lock.
@@garrygraham7901 don't know what you are smoking the Toyota is just slight better not 10 times plus ranger has way better articulation also it keeps the traction while being the lockers on unlike hilux and its proved many times so the Ranger is way better offroad than any Toyota in that regard
Having driven the new Ranger I'm surprised noone is mentioning 3 immediate stand out niggles after 5 minutes in the saddle. 1. The gear shifter is extremely light to hand and its very easy to accidently skip past the shift option you want. 2. The turbo whine sounds like a screaming child at certain revs. 3. The center screen is too 'flat' and should be angled for ease of use Small niggle yes but ones you WILL notice on the daily. If I were most, I would wait until this new model is revised as is usually the smart choice for any make/model
I test drove the V6 Wildtrak today….none of the issues you raised sprung to mind. I was surprised that the bonnet latch is on the passenger side though!!
It sucks that the V6 diesel doesnt get made in Thailand market i was exited when the ranger had a V6 option but I was dissapointed when the Thailand market doesnt get the V6.
The ranger also does not disconnect front traction control when the diff lock is activated, unlike the hilux. Its understood the new ranger actually has more wheel travel than the hilux.
Oh just another thing the Hilux should be on the front of the pic as it is still the leading selling and most reliable in Australia as you stated for years😉
Nice double cab. As to how good the engine will be, just ask how good the Land Rover Discovery4 mill was/is - it seems that this is essentially the same lump?
there was some work done to that before and after it went into the F150 so same roots but improved reliability according to the US websites - in particular they reworked the crankshaft and moved the EGR Cooler - should be a solid base...
Disappointed you did not measure fuel useage. When you pick the cars up, fill them up and again when finished. Its not hard! Incorrect and misleading info with regard to "full-time four wheel drive", which it is not. It is not driving all four wheels all of the time. Rather, it is an "on demand", system that proportions drive to the front wheels when slip is detected at the rear. Two different systems that you should have been across.
@@vashthestamspeed1374 that might be true, but rightly or wrongly, you’re not going to find a comparison video that puts the Hilux over the current Ranger.
@@bernardpeel7133 joke on u i’m wanted dead or alive for possession of an unregistered nuclear warhead and im going to do a comparison review soon…. jokes aside i gotta say that the hilux interior are trash (and i own one) the ranger interior are not better but they’re up to date while toyota is stuck in the 2010s
I don't understand why there is no apple to apple comparison. I'm not sure about the availability in Australia but Hilux does come with a V6 petrol. So that will be right up against the V6 Ford has got.
With power and torque outputs of the bi-turbo Ranger similar to the toyota 2.8, why wouldnt you compare like for like?? The only comparision is a favorites contest .
Ranger side step already took a hit, the ramp over is not so good now that the wheelbase is longer. Prob only one or 2 areas where the hilux is better. USA markets get a hilux V6? we should here too?
1. The USA gets the Tacoma and it comes with the 3.5L V6, you will never get it because Thailand taxes anything more than 3250cc out the ass. That's why the Ranger had a 3.2L. 2. It's a petrol, how popular are petrol utes in Australia? 3. 4.0L V6 Hilux was sold in Australia but not anymore, I think it's because they didn't sell very well. Consumed too much fuel and performed like the 2.8L diesel.
they have been similar for like a decade mate lol, media hype and marketing about the Toyota reliability is just that... marketing now. it used to be accurate about 30 years ago, unfortunately Toyota has flogged the shit out of that horse without keeping with the competition.
The worst thing to deal with the ford is everyones gonna be driving one in a years time. They are literally every 4th car here in nz now... once the must have v6 is available they will sell every single one. 3k more than the 2.0. No Brainer.
If you want the more cheapest maintenance spareparts cost you choose Toyota Hilux but if you like car that very convenience driving experience but higher maintenance cost you choose Ford ranger
For features only i like ranger raptor..for power and durability,hilux still the best...if 600nm or 250 hp you want,just remap or buy ecu-shop and remap plus exhaust and upgrade intercooler...hilux still have value for money....
Bruh inline 4’s are inherently less balanced than any 6. Youre thinking about inline 6’s, those are inherently almost perfectly balanced. But an inline 4 is far less smooth than a 6, be it inline, V or flat.
Wana hear a noisy engine, buy a Dmax. I have a 2021 DMAZ and a 2019 Hilux. The Hilux is much smoother and quieter throughout the rev range. The Hilux is a much much better vehicle
@@YLB-FISHING 10 years is enough for me. But my Everest didn't even last 5 years before it became insufferable with relentless breakdowns, adblue and terrain management failures. A bloody nightmare that was only solved by a Toyota. Maybe I was just unlucky, but I don't think I can risk another. Give me a car that will last 30 years every time. Let the kids learn the hard way, I guess.
@@nzftw8974 but they’re petrol though, in which they absolutely chug fuel. The city fuel economy on the 2017 4.0L V6 Hilux (the last year of the v6 hilux in Australia) is over 16L/100kms
In these times of bigger caravans, trailers whatever, who wouldn't want that extra torque of the V6, and why I bought a Ram 2500 with the Cummins in it, those 4 cylinder engines are ok with a box trailer, but load them up and they struggle, especially in the hot summers days, not to mention the issue of overloaded utes and caravans, but that's another issue again. All off the utes in that 3.5 tonne capacity SHOULD WITHOUT question have at least a V6, and I will NOT buy any of those 4 bangers, and people only buy them because there hasn't been many other options in this country, well now there is, and the V6 Ranger will go good, it's about time these car makers selling vehicles in this country got with it.
How distracting is the large infotainment screen in say foggy conditions on roads with no streetlights or road markings& oncoming traffic for a guy in his 50s or older?
Preferred the actual amarok v6, it has better performance. More HP less torque but in straight line quicker than this ranger v6. At beginning everybody hate 4motion and the 4 cylinder biturbo. Now Ford copy the same things because of the merge.
Straight line performance between the old Amarok and the new Ranger has more to do with the tare weight, there's a good couple of hundred kilos in it. Ford didn't stick the EcoBlue engine in it because of VW, they did this because of the EU emissions laws making the 3.2 untenable.
Why does car reviewer say the new v6 diesel? It is the old Land Rover lion v6. Many issues with this motor, main one is the basic design; no getting around that!
"the Hilux has been the best selling 4x4 for many, many years"?? The Ranger has been the best selling 4x4 for the past 4 years. Hilux only wins when you include 4x2.
@@carholic-sz3qv look it up mate it's not exactly a secret. 2018 onwards Ranger sold more 4x4 than Hilux. 46000 vs 39500 last year so by a decent margin too. Can't deny published sales figures.
@@simmo6035Hilux is the best selling vehicle in Australia but he said best selling 4x4. Just clarifying. Most people here aren't interested in 4x2 stats. People buy them for completely different purposes so why would you include them when specifically taking about 4x4? It is Australian 4x4 after all.
Hi guys, there is one very important detail for me - Hilux has got the button for manual regeneration of the DPF. For me it is a crucial point, I live in the country side in Europe and use the truck for mainly shorter ways. All the modern diesels hate short tracks, Toyota use to have big quality issues in the past - but they found a root cause and implemented a bulletproof measure. So, considering the fact that I need a reliable work horse - I go for Hilux.
You'll need to get rid of it soon because the Euro-Greenies are shutting down diesel, with petrol soon to follow. Did you know that electric cars actually clean the air as they drive ?
So the test looked like it was mostly conducted off road. How often do owners of these do that type of driving, I know these are not the roads i find on my daily life for work and home. With the increased width and length of the wheel track and base, i'd love to hear how people find these on suburban streets. I have driven both Ranger's and Hilux's and like my MY21 Hilux better because it does the job i need and doesn't feel like a truck... Not everyone wants the biggest vehicle available, sales will be a good indication in time to come.
Ranger represents buyers that are borrowing big $ to purchase a vehicle with tail shaft vibration and a hunting transmission. The owner will be bankrupted.
Haha in SA it's exactly the opposite. But then again depends on the region, drive through one town and it's hilux and land cruisers everywhere - driver through the next and all you see is ford, from the figo up to the everest and ranger
You forgot how the ranger has issues with over heating transmissions, computer issues, peeling bed liner, vibrations through the tail shaft and has been reported by channel 9 with customers buying the vehicle and they haven’t lasted more than a few weeks before having to have a complete vehicle exchange due to the rangers breaking system locking on by itself at 80 kms per hour, then you forgot how Toyota have increased prices in what is a nothing special model, seeing the hilux hit the $80 grand mark but no improvements. Over all Australians are robbed blind on every brand in the country when it comes to full and mid size pick ups.
You must be one more dead 💩 who believes in fairytales the ranger has been the best selling next gen in oz for the last 16 months Maybe ask tinker bell for some money so you can buy one , we all know you cannot afford one on unemployment benefits 😂😂😂
price will play a part if you don't have a 3 tone van then the hilux will do the job for 12 k less 🤷♂️ the ranger does out perform the hilux when it comes to latest technology and comforts tho
So we have worked out this is a paid advert for the ford Ranger, knowing you can’t downgrade the Hi-lux all be it even a couple of years older compared to the latest technology, just come to the fact what sells the Ranger over Hi-lux is the price and no waiting time for delivery nothing else,
Mate, love how you do your review presentations. No BS or trying to be a comedian, you just get straight into the real world stuff, very easy to watch and listen to. Well done.
Not sure if anyone else notice it. But both left hand side steps are bent about the same on both trucks. So they must be about the same height from factory. Good video.
Yeah but the Hilux side steps looks to have more damage
Hi 4X4 Australia, I've just seen the CURRENT AFFAIR regarding the issues of the current FORD RANGER. Issues such as suddenly braking at 80 km/h, dash board screen showing nothing and poor customer service. In your future videos, COULD YOU PLEASE INCLUDE CURRENT ISSUES WITH THE VEHICLE (any vehicles) and WHAT THE MANUFACTURERS DOING ABOUT IT (fixes). Your videos influences how our hardworking Australians buy their knew vehicles. You will provide GREAT SERVICE to our community by providing not just the POSITIVE and NEGATIVE reviews about the vehicle but also the actual issues with it. This way, the MANUFACTURERS can be put on notice, up their standards and giving the manufacturers the idea CUSTOMER SERVICE should be their number one priority. Now that's a concept, PASSIONATE ABOUT CUSTOMER SERVICE.
You only wish you could afford one dribbler
Makes me want my sport even more now!
I would say the Hilux is not bad, it’s still good at whatever is thrown at it! It’s just that the Ranger has set a very high benchmark with the new generation model…
Hilux is just mediocre.
It's not great at anything, its not bad at anything.
Toyota just do what they have to at a bare minimum to keep top of the sales charts.
Last to bring out lane assist, adaptive cruise, rear vents for back seat passengers... have they put a light in the glove box yet?, seriously mine doesn't have one
Look at landcruiser 80/105/200 or 79 series. through the roof $wise and they just keep on keeping on.
Want bang for expensive buck.... its Toyota. You'll work it out once it's time to sell.
Last to break down. Dpf issue fix. Ranger just sets itself on fire by battery faults.
@@supercruiser4925 Love how some of you Toyota fan boys bash other manufactures. Toyota is not perfect in reliability either and have a few class-action lawsuits filed against them to prove it.
@@markharcourt2214 79 series the truck for men doing men's work. U can keep ur pony trucks mate, my grandchildren will still drive in my 79 one day.
@@Kamdo777 79 series a truck🤣🤣🤣😂
There is nothing like a Toyota and nothing lasts like a Toyota.😎📷🇦🇺
The ranger is going to sell like hot cakes. If I'm going to spend 70k+ I may as well buy the best car available.
The front mounted camera is a no brainer. It's amazing that it isn't available as an aftermarket accessory. 360 degree view is very handy also.
I installed one on my 2012 Wildtrak.One of the best investment one can make.Not as fancy as on the new Ranger, but with a 5 inch screen on top of the dash that can fold flat, it's great for parking, and seeing in front of the vehicle.
@@fhclappen8595 I've searched for one and can't find anything suitable. Do you have any info you can provide on your set up.
The Ranger looks great outside, but wow that interior is several steps above anything else on the market right now. I'm not sold on the biturbo 2.0, hopefully the 3.0 turns out to be a good lump.
The ranger looks meh outside lol….
I just test drove the 2.0 and it was great. I placed an order for the WildTrak on the spot and am getting one in October.
I had the bi-turbo 2020 wildtrak. Now driving the new wildtrak bi-turbo (because it'll take well over 6 months to get the V6). It's a bit more refined in the new one.
I was worried about something as small as a 2l in 2020, until I watched a towing comparison with a 3200kg caravan and the 2l was significantly better than the old 3.2
I've also had the old 3.2ltr and the bi-turbo 2.0 has more grunt and smoother than that was.
@@matthewh8005 I've just upgraded from a 2020 wildtrak with the 2.0 and put 84,000km on it. Was happy with it. Now driving the new one with the 2.0 I agree with the reviewers that in the new Wildtrak the 2.0 and transmission has been refined a little.
If there wasn't a 6+ month wait for a v6 I would have grabbed that, but no regrets on the 2.0 (significantly better than the old 3.2 & 6 speed which I've also had)
@@NeilMcAliece your 2020 Wildtrak, is it automatic trans? Any parts replaced?
This was the first new ranger review that was not 100% press statement, well done mate
You can hear how much nicer the Ranger is to drive just in his voice😂😂
seen a few rangers on the road, they have a great road presence. they look good and stand out, i want one haha
Let's not forget the most important thing said.
"Ranger has a brand new engine"
I think if I was going to buy the new Ranger, I would wait a few years till they mastered the build on the engine and pick up anything that goes wrong with it etc.
The reasons Toyota's are so good is because when the new gen comes they really fine tune the reliability of their motors.
If they find any problems they sort it out fast.
The engine is actually an old ford engine. Just new to ranger
I don't think "its new". If it is the same engine thats in Amarok/Audi A6/Toureg etc.........Its a beauty
Engine is from the F150
@@danusually6189 Yeah just did some reading.
It's actually used in Ford Territory too LOL!
Impressive..
Also said the most powerfull 3.0 700Nm was used in Range rover sport and disco sdv6.
And we all know how great the range rover sport and disco are for reliability hahahahahaha
@@markharcourt2214 Don't forget Range rover sport and Disco sdv6 hahahahaha
What a pos engine blows turbos at 150k on the regular
10k turbo bills
So excited to not buy that car ever
The ranger though, keeps traction control active in the front wheels when you go into 4L with the diff lock on.
The rest of the other pickups don't do that. But great video though, just wish they added slightly more torque in the V6 Ranger.
Yessir, howzit buddy from SA, ZIM OR BOTS?
@@repentfromsinfollowjesus2953 Zambia 🇿🇲.
How about you?
@@chandamusonda6883 Nice one man, I'm in Bots🇧🇼
When it comes to the amount of torque am sure they were considering the longevity of the engine, as they update the model, they'll increase the power and torque ever so slightly but just enough not to compromise the lifespan of the engine. These are still work horses despite their appeal as lifestyle vehicles
@@MutsyChils Absolutely Boety, that's why I'm a Toyota guy. Running a gd6 @ 110 000kms and still strong as new. Goes to the mines, goes to the farm, pulls a trailer once a while
That tail-shaft vibration though
Wait for the transmission that hunts and can't make its mind up
Love that powerful V6.
So does VW.....
I like the ranger, I have the 3.2lt model but what I don’t get is why aren’t any of the reviewers talking about all the issues the new ranger is having. I really want to update to the new model but until all the issues are dealt with I won’t touch one with a 10ft pole.
The new ford truck looks impressive but how much would be the service maintenance i cant imagine.
I had a good laugh when old mate said “Nothing wrong with driving this Hilux over long days behind the wheel” with his voice shaking from the horrible jittery ride the Hilux is known for! That says it all for me.
Superb, bloody great V6 and permanent 4wd. How much fuel does it burn?
I have a Toyota Hilux Rugged X on order which will arrive in December, (order placed begining of this year) not sure to go ahead with it or cancel it and get the Ranger wildtrak
I'd still take the Hilux any day. Wouldn't be seen dead in a Ranger( plus I don't own a Jet Ski). Everyone I know that has one has had issues. One mates blew up at 20,000 km. f that. My 2021 Sr5 Hilux hasn't missed a beat and is a amazing off road.
The fear of what other people think about you, man’s greatest fear
My Ranger 170,000 km hasn’t missed a beat and I tow a 3 tonne boat
@@mitchellphillips3583 There's an engineer at Ford somewhere who just got the sack.
@@davidnobular9220 😂😂😂
It seems side steps on both got damaged during this testing, unless they have factory curve in them?
A new ranger owner here, hilux is still rugged king but for ranger tech was amazing. For offroad i still into the hilux but comfort is for the ranger still. The ranger feel lighter to drive so far.
I think the ranger will dominate if Ford can keep up with sales. If the v6 is reliable it will dominate all the other utes including the Hilux. Next years Amarok will be a great addition but I think the Ranger will be on top for the next couple of years at least.
Lol…..
Yea but it won't be reliable let's be honest.
@@carholic-sz3qv great reply
@@ln5747 it's more reliable than other pos ute tbh
@@chuchaman4554 it's not but ok.
getting my toyota in a few months time.cant wait
I have one had heaps of problems with it
Like the new ford ranger but I just don't like the fact you have to go into the display unit to lock up the rear diff. Would not want to flood the ford for that reason
@quiy dio good for you buddy!
I already own 2 Rangers , now I want number 3 😁 what a beast of a car 👍
Man, can I be rich like you?...
Go for Raptor maybe
Is it true with prolonged exposure to water crossings and corrugations the electric steering rack fails and a new genuine ford ranger electronic steering rack costs 8 to 10 grand if you can find one ?
The only thing that concerns with the Ranger is FORD. So many owners complaining of poor support from the manufacturer to date!
Driving now an XLT for 2 months and wish I had an SR5. The interior linings are not good quality and the lag can make for unsure driving. Plus I feel like a flog teenager driving it. Trading it in.
Great review!!!
The new ranger has disc brakes in the rear, can’t believe it’s taken this long!
The rangers look good but I’m still sticking with my new Hilux. Really happy with it.
G'day, Not sure how much I can believe once you said the Ford is the only V6. If you got that wrong what else is not quite right. I'm looking forward to comparing the V6 Ranger to the two 3.0L V 6 duel cabs I have owned over the last 10 years. (Navara ST-X 550 and Amarok Ultima)
That is why I get mine next year
God I can’t wait for Ranger new gen to come here in America
First - loving the new ranger, ford have nailed it with this one
yes we still are waiting here in the US for the new ranger . no diesels here . nice if we could get the Everest as the explorer $50k US 2.3 4cy is a 3row mall -mom- moblie. not much of a. off roader no low range
@@youtubecarspottersguide1 the Rangers in Asia have manual transmission too.
One lasts 4 years, the other 20+. Nothing has changed.
The ranger is the only one which will last 20 years with that 2 decade old engine so..
It's inevitable that the Hilux will have full-time 4wd since that is the foundation of the Landcruiser. I look forward to purchase when they have the same drivetrain as the Landcruiser.
Which of the three midsize pickup trucks listed will you give 1 seat to? Toyota hailax, ford ranger raptor, mitsubishi l-200?
we just have to wait and see how reliable that Ranger is.
I suspect Ford would have resolved most of the issues with the 10 Speed auto gearbox by now, after all the dramas with the previous generation Ranger.
Which leaves the engines - and to which I think the bi turbo will be more reliable than the V6, as its a far newer design. The V6 was originally sourced from Citroen and due to the original front wheel drive packaging, the crankshaft was made incredibly compact so the V6 could be mounted in an east-west orientation.
Unfortunately, the crankshaft is extremely short - very narrow castings on the throw between main and big end journals. I believe this is a weak point for the V6 motor and the internet is littered with examples of snapped crankshafts. Let's hope the brains trust at Ford Australia have made suitable changes to beef up the crankshaft and introduced design changes to the big end bearings so they don't develop a habit of spinning on the block.
@@tempestv8 Citroen or Land Rover? A lot of people have said it comes from Land Rover, which was then put in the F-150 which had identical HP and Torque to what it has now.
@@motorpolitan8884 both Citroen and Land Rover adopted the engine as it as a collaborative effort between Ford and PSA Group (Peugeot and Citroen were part of PSA). As such PSA vehicles like the Citroen D6 and the Peugeot 607 sedans were running around at the same time as Land Rover Discovery 3 with this same engine.
Remember that Ford owned Land Rover at that time, and needed to replace the TD5 motor - it would have been horrendously noisy for the likes of the Discovery 3, so Ford repackaged the 2.7 litre TDV6 that was used in the front wheel drive Citroen and Peugeot sedans.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_AJD-V6/PSA_DT17
This handy article talks about the origins of the Lion V6 engine.
Land Rover did not have the funding to develop a new engine, and under the ownership of Ford, various engines from Ford's vast divisions was put into the Land Rovers.
The TDV6 came from Ford Dagenham UK factory.
The 4.4 litre TDV8 in the Range Rover came from Ford Chihuahua Mexico factory.
Only just recently has Land Rover cut ties with Ford for the supply of their engines, as Tata has injected sufficent funding to develop in-house engines (Ingenium)
@@tempestv8 When the engine was redesigned in 2018 to go in the F-150, the crank was changed to a stronger forged unit and with better bearings. There's not been any failed that I've seen (JLR also got the new crank at the same time).
Thanks 😊
The retention of traction control with the diff locked is a big advantage for the Ford.
But you know what? The Toyota TC system is so good that the rear locker almost becomes obsolete. I kid you not, I have done a couple of comparisons with my Fortuner and it makes no difference, locked or not. In fact the risk of damage is increased with it on because the TC is turned off. And I am talking about some tricky mud holes as well as VHC tracks including Blue Rag and Billy Goats Bluff.
The ranger is actually way better offroad because of this. The hilux is worse when you ingage difflock. It goes back to 3 wheel drive
@@vevohoeyo no, the toyota is supreme offroad without a diff lock because the TC is 10 times better than the ford's. I have had experience with both. The ford needs a difflock or it struggles with traction. The TC is slow to respond and allows way too much wheel spin before applying brake pressure The toyota rarely needs a difflock because the TC is so good at distributing drive to all four wheels with minimal wheel spin. It always impresses me with how good it is. It is almost as good as Landrover TC. But you are right, turning off the TC in the toyota is dumb, and only actually disables the car. That's why I rarely use the diff lock.
@@garrygraham7901 don't know what you are smoking the Toyota is just slight better not 10 times plus ranger has way better articulation also it keeps the traction while being the lockers on unlike hilux and its proved many times so the Ranger is way better offroad than any Toyota in that regard
@@hotrod7603 Ah been smokin' big stogies of reality, old mate! 😎
After seeing that ranger and all the other wonderful trucks, how does the hilux keep outselling them?
Reliability. More tech more problems.
Having driven the new Ranger I'm surprised noone is mentioning 3 immediate stand out niggles after 5 minutes in the saddle.
1. The gear shifter is extremely light to hand and its very easy to accidently skip past the shift option you want.
2. The turbo whine sounds like a screaming child at certain revs.
3. The center screen is too 'flat' and should be angled for ease of use
Small niggle yes but ones you WILL notice on the daily. If I were most, I would wait until this new model is revised as is usually the smart choice for any make/model
I test drove the V6 Wildtrak today….none of the issues you raised sprung to mind. I was surprised that the bonnet latch is on the passenger side though!!
Over here in America we don’t have Hiluxes. We have Tacomas , Tundras, Rangers, Rams, Silverados, Wranglers, Raptors, Canyons/Colorados
Price?
My dad has the 2015 hilux & I has the 2019 ford raptor and it need more upgrades but my dad hilux is worth it still working fine
The Rangers look the one to buy .
It sucks that the V6 diesel doesnt get made in Thailand market i was exited when the ranger had a V6 option but I was dissapointed when the Thailand market doesnt get the V6.
The ranger also does not disconnect front traction control when the diff lock is activated, unlike the hilux.
Its understood the new ranger actually has more wheel travel than the hilux.
Yet the hilux went better over the deep holes. He said it and it was visually apparent. Slower and more controlled.
@@simmo6035 is Toyota a sponsor of 4x4?
Love the look of the Aussie Ford Ranger
It's not made in Australia
@@A2906-o8q it may not be but it was made for the Australian market
@@kenxiong6830 it's also made for the market where its produced
@@A2906-o8q yes but not until recently. It was originally made for the Australian market hence why it’s referred to as the Aussie Ranger.
@@kenxiong6830 who refers to it?
R.I.P Hulix
Hilux will never die mate 💪
@@nzftw8974 Cap🧢
Hilux lest we forget
Oh just another thing the Hilux should be on the front of the pic as it is still the leading selling and most reliable in Australia as you stated for years😉
Nice double cab. As to how good the engine will be, just ask how good the Land Rover Discovery4 mill was/is - it seems that this is essentially the same lump?
there was some work done to that before and after it went into the F150 so same roots but improved reliability according to the US websites - in particular they reworked the crankshaft and moved the EGR Cooler - should be a solid base...
I am stil a Toyota fan!!!!!!
@@johanjacobus3188 it´s a free country (almost) so what ever floats your boat ;)
Disappointed you did not measure fuel useage. When you pick the cars up, fill them up and again when finished. Its not hard! Incorrect and misleading info with regard to "full-time four wheel drive", which it is not. It is not driving all four wheels all of the time. Rather, it is an "on demand", system that proportions drive to the front wheels when slip is detected at the rear. Two different systems that you should have been across.
Agreed was a lost opportunity to also talk about off road specs such as ground clearance etc.
Is it just me, or was his voice noticeably more shaky in the Hilux than when he was driving the Ranger?? 🤔
The V6 is in a class of its own. Can you do a 2.0 bi-turbo deisel comparison/review?
Anyone who thought the Hilux had a chance of winning this battle was kidding themselves.
then your ranger don’t start in the morning while my hilux works even after a nuclear warhead strike
@@vashthestamspeed1374 that might be true, but rightly or wrongly, you’re not going to find a comparison video that puts the Hilux over the current Ranger.
@@bernardpeel7133 joke on u i’m wanted dead or alive for possession of an unregistered nuclear warhead and im going to do a comparison review soon….
jokes aside i gotta say that the hilux interior are trash (and i own one) the ranger interior are not better but they’re up to date while toyota is stuck in the 2010s
Okay now you're lying
It won't start after a Nuclear Strike
GREAT review.
10/10
THANK YOU.
I don't understand why there is no apple to apple comparison. I'm not sure about the availability in Australia but Hilux does come with a V6 petrol. So that will be right up against the V6 Ford has got.
With power and torque outputs of the bi-turbo Ranger similar to the toyota 2.8, why wouldnt you compare like for like?? The only comparision is a favorites contest .
So which one won offroad?
Ranger side step already took a hit, the ramp over is not so good now that the wheelbase is longer. Prob only one or 2 areas where the hilux is better.
USA markets get a hilux V6? we should here too?
Wasn't aware the US even got a hilux.
I’d say it’s a petrol v6 though?
Have you seen the Hilux side step in this video? Obviously not.
@@BomberFletch31 hehehe
1:37 and 1:40 mark
1. The USA gets the Tacoma and it comes with the 3.5L V6, you will never get it because Thailand taxes anything more than 3250cc out the ass. That's why the Ranger had a 3.2L.
2. It's a petrol, how popular are petrol utes in Australia?
3. 4.0L V6 Hilux was sold in Australia but not anymore, I think it's because they didn't sell very well. Consumed too much fuel and performed like the 2.8L diesel.
Listen to his voice in the hilux, getting rattled about. Lol
Can you please do a navara stx/pro 4 x vs the new ranger?
At 5:50 “600nw is not a lot more” 😳 I think he must be hiding a Peterbilt with a MX13 PACCAR at home 🤣
I’m curious is the Hilux still the reliable choice, or are modern electronics meaning all utes are similar?
they have been similar for like a decade mate lol, media hype and marketing about the Toyota reliability is just that... marketing now. it used to be accurate about 30 years ago, unfortunately Toyota has flogged the shit out of that horse without keeping with the competition.
@@1989cranston Cool good to know, its would be the Ranger everyday of the week for me.
The worst thing to deal with the ford is everyones gonna be driving one in a years time. They are literally every 4th car here in nz now... once the must have v6 is available they will sell every single one. 3k more than the 2.0. No Brainer.
Except the Xclass Mercedes being the only other V6 and V8 ute on market.
If you want the more cheapest maintenance spareparts cost you choose Toyota Hilux but if you like car that very convenience driving experience but higher maintenance cost you choose Ford ranger
For features only i like ranger raptor..for power and durability,hilux still the best...if 600nm or 250 hp you want,just remap or buy ecu-shop and remap plus exhaust and upgrade intercooler...hilux still have value for money....
Still under powered and good by warranty 😆
You can't flash the ECU to get less noise and a smoother engine.
Weight plays an important role when towing as does wheel centres the new F150 will solve that problem
Remap and start cracking pistons like the previous Hilux engine.
It's weird the inline diesel engine is noisy/rattles more compared to V6 diesel engine it's the other way around with petrol inline and petrol V6
Bruh inline 4’s are inherently less balanced than any 6. Youre thinking about inline 6’s, those are inherently almost perfectly balanced. But an inline 4 is far less smooth than a 6, be it inline, V or flat.
Who is more prone to overheating, diesel or gas?
Wana hear a noisy engine, buy a Dmax. I have a 2021 DMAZ and a 2019 Hilux. The Hilux is much smoother and quieter throughout the rev range. The Hilux is a much much better vehicle
The Hilux belongs to the history..
You can’t compare between the two anymore, The new Ranger is far ahead in all aspects.
Except reliability and build quality...
@@garrygraham7901 Not like a lot of Toyota buyers I don’t have the desire to stay with my car for 30 years.
Buy a new car every 5 years and no drama
@@YLB-FISHING 10 years is enough for me. But my Everest didn't even last 5 years before it became insufferable with relentless breakdowns, adblue and terrain management failures. A bloody nightmare that was only solved by a Toyota. Maybe I was just unlucky, but I don't think I can risk another. Give me a car that will last 30 years every time. Let the kids learn the hard way, I guess.
@@garrygraham7901 👍🙌
Yeah, far ahead in breakdowns for Ford Ranger & Ford Everest.
Gees, I'd be very worried if I was Toyota! Creamy V6 vs puny 4 cylinder.......
There v6 Toyota hiluxes out mate
@@nzftw8974 Where?????
@@billybob1511 do your research
@@nzftw8974 but they’re petrol though, in which they absolutely chug fuel. The city fuel economy on the 2017 4.0L V6 Hilux (the last year of the v6 hilux in Australia) is over 16L/100kms
@@HughRussell06 that’s why you go diesel my friend
Does the Ford use a torque converter transmission?
Yes it does. It's not a DCT or a CVT
@@kylebutler7142 not sure if the old ones had Powershift which was a piece of shit
They fixed the armrests!
In these times of bigger caravans, trailers whatever, who wouldn't want that extra torque of the V6, and why I bought a Ram 2500 with the Cummins in it, those 4 cylinder engines are ok with a box trailer, but load them up and they struggle, especially in the hot summers days, not to mention the issue of overloaded utes and caravans, but that's another issue again.
All off the utes in that 3.5 tonne capacity SHOULD WITHOUT question have at least a V6, and I will NOT buy any of those 4 bangers, and people only buy them because there hasn't been many other options in this country, well now there is, and the V6 Ranger will go good, it's about time these car makers selling vehicles in this country got with it.
The Ford F-150 RHD from factory arrives next year 4.5t towing
That will rattle a few cages
Ford Ranger 👏👏👏
How distracting is the large infotainment screen in say foggy conditions on roads with no streetlights or road markings& oncoming traffic for a guy in his 50s or older?
The only thing i hate about the ranger is the 2.0 biturbo model
Vw and ford 💪💪🤝
Toyota for me mate. Cape Town South Africa ❤️
Preferred the actual amarok v6, it has better performance.
More HP less torque but in straight line quicker than this ranger v6.
At beginning everybody hate 4motion and the 4 cylinder biturbo.
Now Ford copy the same things because of the merge.
I’m a fan of the 4cylinder Twin Turbo combo, it’s got plenty of power / torque imo and its great fuel economy wise.
Straight line performance between the old Amarok and the new Ranger has more to do with the tare weight, there's a good couple of hundred kilos in it. Ford didn't stick the EcoBlue engine in it because of VW, they did this because of the EU emissions laws making the 3.2 untenable.
Ranger ♥️
Why does car reviewer say the new v6 diesel? It is the old Land Rover lion v6. Many issues with this motor, main one is the basic design; no getting around that!
"the Hilux has been the best selling 4x4 for many, many years"??
The Ranger has been the best selling 4x4 for the past 4 years. Hilux only wins when you include 4x2.
Lol……… wtf are you talking about!!!
@@carholic-sz3qv look it up mate it's not exactly a secret. 2018 onwards Ranger sold more 4x4 than Hilux. 46000 vs 39500 last year so by a decent margin too. Can't deny published sales figures.
Why wouldn't you include 4x2?
Are the Everest/Ranger reliable in Australia?
@@simmo6035Hilux is the best selling vehicle in Australia but he said best selling 4x4. Just clarifying. Most people here aren't interested in 4x2 stats. People buy them for completely different purposes so why would you include them when specifically taking about 4x4? It is Australian 4x4 after all.
Do the hilux come with bent running boards from the factory or is it just a Toyota thing?
It’s a Toyota thing
Hi guys, there is one very important detail for me - Hilux has got the button for manual regeneration of the DPF. For me it is a crucial point, I live in the country side in Europe and use the truck for mainly shorter ways. All the modern diesels hate short tracks, Toyota use to have big quality issues in the past - but they found a root cause and implemented a bulletproof measure. So, considering the fact that I need a reliable work horse - I go for Hilux.
You'll need to get rid of it soon because the Euro-Greenies are shutting down diesel, with petrol soon to follow.
Did you know that electric cars actually clean the air as they drive ?
Got a a fortuner (suv hilux) and its a crap ride but will get the job done. Hats off to the aussie engineers that made the current Ranger
So the test looked like it was mostly conducted off road. How often do owners of these do that type of driving, I know these are not the roads i find on my daily life for work and home. With the increased width and length of the wheel track and base, i'd love to hear how people find these on suburban streets. I have driven both Ranger's and Hilux's and like my MY21 Hilux better because it does the job i need and doesn't feel like a truck... Not everyone wants the biggest vehicle available, sales will be a good indication in time to come.
You can't compare driving the old ranger and new one. They're miles apart.
@@Jessemakesvids Think you missed the point that this was mostly conducted off road..
Ranger is danger😄
The 2.0 L is an engine for only 200,000 kilómeters. Show me how many Amaroks 2.0 with more than 200K have Zero issues on their engine???
My 2014 amarok Highline is still going strong at 228,000 kms
@@HughRussell06 You should upload a video to show it, it would be really interesting to witness
Some people are lucky and you are one of them you dont see and here that often
The Hilux represents buyers over 50 while the Ranger represents a younger buyer who wants more style, features and practicality from their ute…
91% of Hilux buyers are aged 20-38, seems you’re not so honest or just writing things for the sake of it Joe…..
Ranger represents buyers that are borrowing big $ to purchase a vehicle with tail shaft vibration and a hunting transmission.
The owner will be bankrupted.
Haha in SA it's exactly the opposite. But then again depends on the region, drive through one town and it's hilux and land cruisers everywhere - driver through the next and all you see is ford, from the figo up to the everest and ranger
rubbish
@@nesher3290 South Australia or South Africa ?
You forgot how the ranger has issues with over heating transmissions, computer issues, peeling bed liner, vibrations through the tail shaft and has been reported by channel 9 with customers buying the vehicle and they haven’t lasted more than a few weeks before having to have a complete vehicle exchange due to the rangers breaking system locking on by itself at 80 kms per hour, then you forgot how Toyota have increased prices in what is a nothing special model, seeing the hilux hit the $80 grand mark but no improvements. Over all Australians are robbed blind on every brand in the country when it comes to full and mid size pick ups.
You must be one more dead 💩 who believes in fairytales the ranger has been the best selling next gen in oz for the last 16 months
Maybe ask tinker bell for some money so you can buy one , we all know you cannot afford one on unemployment benefits 😂😂😂
From where I come.. TOYOTA RULES and it will always be THE WHEELS OF OUR NATION ❤️💥💯🇻🇺
price will play a part if you don't have a 3 tone van then the hilux will do the job for 12 k less 🤷♂️ the ranger does out perform the hilux when it comes to latest technology and comforts tho
So we have worked out this is a paid advert for the ford Ranger, knowing you can’t downgrade the Hi-lux all be it even a couple of years older compared to the latest technology, just come to the fact what sells the Ranger over Hi-lux is the price and no waiting time for delivery nothing else,