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- Опубліковано 21 кві 2023
- Internalizing the "Homosexual Underground" thought and then immediately following it up by pestering Kim with invasive questions about his sexuality, right in front of the hardie boys, all after forcing him to wear That jacket
'I'll spare you another 20-hour mind project' What a burn lol. He knows Harry so well.
He's known Harry for like three days and can already read him like a mf book
The big man's in the mind palace, nothing wrong with it.
Totally. Best partner in any videogame.
"u gay?"
"yes we gay keep walkin"
Fucc around you gon catch this 4.6mmini ball
😂
"I have big news, Kim."
This game. This fucking game.
Lmaoo
I fucking love the "Uhm.. uh.."
And that’s a *success*
@@OkamiG15 In *reaction speed*. I love this game.
reaction speed always knows what to not say
Kim is like 'figure yourself out OUTSIDE working hours, please'
HE'S JUST LIKE ME
That’s gonna be a visit to the HR
"Nice job REACTION SPEED, we answered that right on time"
The fact that this whole conversation is happening in front of the Hardie Boys makes it even better - especially if it's right after you tell them about Ruby's thing for Klaasje
also the one with the mustache is also gay
I love how Kim indirectly calls out everyone in the comments including harry for obsessing over other peoples sexuality.
Hey, im just exhausting dialogue trees, man.
i mean, i'm not the one who put all this sexuality stuff in the game...
Exactly, the authors are at fault xD @@nurgle-j5n
@@nurgle-j5n Not the topic of sexuality is being criticized, the obsession over other people's preferences is.
I get it, people are using the word sexuality for two different concepts here,
it's difficult, but the context gives it away.
@@nurgle-j5n It's different in a game tho. Characters in media are made to be dissected and overanalyzed really, and even if not, it's just harmless fun and thought excersize
What it ciriticzes is obsessing over people's sexualities irl, as that is none of your business really
This is why he's the only character who isn't censored when he says Piss F****t, he's allowed to say it
He has the f-word pass
Drama [Medium: Success] - He's allowed to say it.
Suggestion [Challenging: Success] - You, on the other hand, shouldn't push your luck.
@@emersonpage5384 Logic (Trivial) : It's pretty obvious why you shouldnt, right?
Rules for thee, not for me.
@@bangotrue1089Sugestion [Challenging: Success]: Or maybe.... You can say it. But we don't remember it yet.
I love how "Drama" is the arbiter of gay
Drama is the arbiter of whether you think someone's lying or not, no?
A lacy pimp vest adds drama or a Japanese weeaboo robe. Dude, did you even read the plot with your ass? Hmm... uh...
@@ChadVulpes No, just gay.
alongside Composure because that's the skill that figures out the smoker likes men
I love how kim really is just like
"Yes i'm gay, now please let's go back to work"
[reaction speed: success]: "umm, uhh."
great job
I’m so glad I had this on my first playthrough, I remember actually audibly saying “I KNEW IT”
Im straight as fuck but plz let me romance Kim
Everyone loves Kim.
Do you really think Kim’s standards would ever be low enough to fall for Harry lol
Why you gae
@@TransSappho -1 health -3 morale
Are you though?
i wasn't prepared for that "uhm... uh...", it almost killed me of laughter
i always wondered why he chose the piss jacket… mystery solved
Harry is fixated on his male nature, Kim knows this and will always support him, not even as a friend, but in order to keep his mental state comfortable, so that Harry can be more productive.
@@777CHEKIST777 mostly Harry with high physique, I suppose. Sorry cop, for example, is too sorry to be obsessed with masculinity
@@user-pt2jn5yz9gYou may be a sorry cop who puts a gun in his mouth and grabs his balls, but at least he doesn't take bribes. You are a high school coach after all. Ok, Boomer.
When I tell you that the Homosexual-Underground had me giggling to myself the whole time.
“Bonuses: Stopped obsessing about sexuality” and then STILL choosing to ask Kim about it had me laughing my ass off dude.
I understand Kim so much, if a sloppy bear who i have seen puke, jamrock shuffle AND have a bi-crisis in front of me, asked me if i was gay i would come out of the closet right there
“I can fix him”
what in the slang did I just read dawg
@@anusaukko6792 you are english yes? You can read
@@wizardofgaysex I'm just confused seeing these random terms I have never heard of in my life before. No clue what a sloppy bear, jamrock shuffle, or a bi-crisis is 😭
@@anusaukko6792 A bear is a hairy and/or big gay dude. Being a sloppy bear is being the "unkempt" kind of hot: bed head, wearing underware while lounging in couch, poorly shaven or untamed beard. You need to play the game to know what a jamrock shuffle is, and a bi-crisis is when a person who believed they had a sexuality sudently finds out they're bissexual. In Harry's case he gets really confused about how infatuated he is over the Smoker In the Balcony in the game (which amuses Kim to no end).
I audibly cheered when I first saw this, totally worth getting grilled by Kim.
the little cursor dance at the end fuiwqfikuqwjhf
and we still can't have a romance with Kim
I mean with the heaping pile of hot mess that Harry is, I feel like he needs to figure his shit out first before pursuing anyone, let alone Kim.
@@strictlydonotcare2421 true and Kim doesn't seem like the type to flirt on the job or with a co-worker
@@joshknight2463 that being said, I would romance Kim in a heartbeat if given a chance
Speak for yourself. I am absolutely in a romance with Kim, and we adopted Cuno as our garbage child. We're a happy family.
I feel like it would be too incestuous to be in a relationship with Kim.
He's more than a mere bro. He's a proper brother to Harry
holy shit i missed this. I even did the thought and everything.
KIM LIKES MEN??? IO HAVE A CHANCEEEEEEE
just let him talk about his car, easy as that
no you don't. you talk to your own tie
@@spacegay9309 ...yeah thats fair
@@spacegay9309Who says Kim isn't into weirdoes
Bro gay and got ocd holy shit man stop being relatable
I’m sayin
And that's why he can say f***** without the censoring
You know someone really messed with Harry brain when even his Thoughts are left speechless
Kim you absolute huggable perfect man I wish to kiss that forehead filled with car details of yours rn...
Kim is the best centrist. We will spare him in the coming centricide.
If you have time
I wish the homosexual underground thought factored into questioning Klassje, like you are resistant to being compromised by her or something. I tried it and it didn't work.
Well Harry is obviously bi so that won't help.
Klassje isn’t able to compromise and control Harry bc she’s a beautiful woman. It’s because she sees his soul, understands him, and has already passed through the ‘end of bender’ stage…a week ago…when smth craaaaazy happened to her lol.
But anyways, that’s my thought. They’re both cut from the same cloth and Harry can be played to be very trusting of people similar to him
Actually, you’ll notice Kim is unaffected in this way. Your skills will tell you as much, he has not been compromised. Harry is a half-dead bisexual who’s been compromised by both Klaasje AND Kim lmao.
Because harry isn't gay? Regardless of how the thought ends, if you know the backstory, which you'd know if you played it out, you know Harry is attracted to women
@@stevenyoung9738 Bro discovers the concept of bisexuality lol. Harry has a gaydar, there's no way he's straight.
I can roleplay, but only as someone who cares about/is nice to Kim
so true. i haven't drank a single time cause kim would be mad
@@muda_muda_mudaaI haven't drank a single time OR did drugs, even when Kim is away. *That's* how much I care about Harry's recovery and Kim's happiness
you thought abou this *eight hours*!?
Some people need many years.
"Yes, we gay. Keep investigatin."
The fun part is, if you went through with this dialog, you're actually part of the people that are obsessing about other people's sexuality and Kim is kinda roasting you, through Harry
On a side note, I have never seen this game before, it looks so cool!
I 100 percent recommend Disco Elysium although I'd suggest not purchasing DE right now b/c the lead writer was ousted by the company that owns the game ip.
Or just curious and playing a game, very very very much more likely
@@TheBarbarianBear That's kinda messed up. Guess I'll pirate it :)))))
@@Langharig_Tuig Yup, but you're still curious about someone's sexuality. It's arguably "worse" because it's a virtual character. Btw, I'm not criticising the players, just pointing out the irony of the situation. I, myself, would be very curious to know his sexuality :D
@@carlosmspk You're just wrong, is it that hard to admit? People playing a game are just curious for the sake of curiosity. Nothing more to it; there's no irony, no hypocrisy, nothing else but just curiosity itself.
Saw a post asking who would be big and little spoon between these two. I can’t believe that’s even a question it’s so obvious.
Then... Who? I think, Kim is a big spoon, idk if it's popular opinion or not.
@@user-ut6eq7kb7edefinitely. He's the responsible one for putting up with Harry's bullshit and for coddling him the entire game.
Mind you, I could definitely see moments where Harry occasionally tries to 'take back control' by demanding to be the big spoon only to beg Kim be the big spoon again the next night.
@@user-ut6eq7kb7e yeah, for sure, Harry is too much of a disaster not to be little spoon
@@scipio6142 spork for sure
it STARTS with kim as the big spoon, but overnight harry starts desperately clinging to kim like a teddy bear and, in the process, becomes the big spoon
but i didn't wanna know his sexuality because i obsess over other people's sexuality.... i wanted to know because i wanna know if he's an option :(
Reaction Speed fucking kills me here
New waifu
Omega Players : This is quite unexpected Gigachada Players : We have chances for Kim's romance
В англосфере (да и в русскоговорящем) никто не использует omega. Лучше подставить virgin или beta
PS: да, я знаю про яойщиков и омегаверс
PPS: да, я душнила
I love this game's sassyness at times - its an amazing game though it does require shedding the mindset that you need to do well.
AAAAAAAAAAAAA WHAT THIS IS SO IMPORTANT AND I MISSED IT BECAUSE I DIDNT FINISH INTERNALIZING THIS BEFORE THE END GAME
i love that there's no in-game bonuses, that was so good (and almost relatable, i got something like a -2 authority IRL)
wait, Kim's gay? YES! I KNEW IT! ALL THE FANTASIES
God, the humor of this game never fails.
Reaction speed value.
I didn't get the drama success when I did this. Took the whole thing as Kim just saying he was so I'd shut up about it, whether he was telling the truth or not wasn't even relevant.
Honestly, I thought that too.
Like Kim just gave the answer that would make you stop thinking about useless shit and just get back to the case.
"Detective, though I admire your open mindedness, might I remind you that we *still* have to get the dead body out of the tree?"
@@DrunkenCoward1If he wasn't gay he would nust say "No, I'm not".
And did anyone in the fanbase listen when the game told them to stop obsessing over other people's sexuality? At all?
When did that stop anyone? X)
there's people doing it in this comment section
Uh...um...
We're not obsessing over his sexuality. We're just down bad for Kim.
they're not people, but fictional characters. hope it helps!
This is peak representation.
This interaction is SO GOOD.
I personally like that one of the main characters aren't straight, it gives some diversity in the whole cast but also annoys me that most of the times when someone talks about Kim they mainly talk about them being gay and nothing else (which is quite ironic that Kim calls out this kind of behavior in this clip)
Actually, Harry is heavily alluded to being bi too, and is directly questioned by a pair of eyes he (probably-) hallucinates on the dock wall, infront of the strike. Its just a few lines of dialogue, bisexual being a option among a handful of 'bi' starting words, but it you choose the bisexual option the eyes in the wall say something along the lines of "Yeah, I bet you are."
Also his potential flirty interactions with the smoker on the balcony, and the item description for the jean pants you can find in the coal room Cindy the skull sleeps in. Probably other ones I'd missed out hadn't expecterienced in my playthrough. There's a surprising amount of queer subtext and text.
So chances are, both main characters are queer. I wasn't all that interested in the homosexual underground thought, so I never completed it, all this is based off what I did run into without it, there's more details I probably have missed.
@@Asdfghjklqwqrty I wouldn't even call it alluded to, but rather it being straight up canon.
Harry is obviously into the Smoker on the balcony, and it's the main thing that Kim finds funny about their interactions (the fact that Harry is attracted to him but can't seem to piece it together).
It's also canonical that both Kim and Harry are repressed when it comes to their sexualities, but in seems to be in very different ways. When reading the book about the medicinal uses of pale, one of Harry's "inside voices" will tell him that he and Kim should take their pants off and explore eachother's bodies, and that it might help them since "Kim is ever more repressed than he is". Kim is most likely repressed in the sense that he's not really showcasing/making it obvious that he is queer, which makes sense given the fact that he is also half Seolite. He already gets a lot of racist comments, so he doesn't need to give people another reason to harass him (if they ever make a sequel with Harry & Kim being the protags again, i hope they dive into this topic a bit more, since i feel like not many games cover the experience of being a racial minority AND queer). Meanwhile Harry seems to be repressed in the sense that he is queer but doesn't realize it. Yes, while the homosexual underground's message about not being obsessed with other peoples sexualities is good, it also paints a very obvious picture about Harry having internalized biphobia. The homosexual underground thought is one of the ones that takes the longest time to process, all for you to not come to a concrete conclusion, and that's no coincidence. There's also a chance of Harry actually knowing that he is queer, but forgetting it alongside everything else, but I feel like if this were the case, he'd just come to a concrete conclusion.
Other notable moments are, Harry literally fantasizing about being spanked by a man (honestly don't remember when exactly this happens, but it does) and Harry hugging the woman in front of the bookstore during the communism quest and there being an internal dialog option about how he'd prefer to be hugging a man. The game also hints at Harry being into Kim (and vice versa), the game's official twitter account has also reposted a Harry x Kim fanart last year for Valentines day (2022), they've also done something similar this year for Valentines but it's a bit in poor taste/this one seemed more like pandering due to what's going on w the company.
Anywho there's probably more of these moments I missed.
I love that you've either played into the joke or the very premise of it went over your head.
Either outcome gives me a giggle.
@@drakkletannon hehe
I've only recently played DE, but have been seeing the memes and people discussing it for ages (both of which usually centers on Kim or Harry), and I've only ever found out Kim's gay in my own playthrough. Not really sure where you're getting that people only talk about that.
“that sign won’t stop me because i can’t read” -some of yall
"Hey Kim do you pack fudge?"
"No I get my fudge packed, can we get back to work?"
I don't think I ever been excited about someone saying that he's gay. I even did the "fist pump" thing.
WTF Kim was gay all this time?
He had a partner named "Eyes" that he talks about as if he were a lover
@Faith Mystery oh, yes, I remember this. Back then, I thought about that, but wasn't sure if he really gay or not
I respect him a lot. He's not going to lie about who he is, but it's obvious he values his performance as an officer far more, and wishes Harry would focus on the case instead. I love Kim's character.
@@faithmystery4441 They weren't a couple. His partner, nicknamed Eyes, died because of him. That's why he talks about him the way he does.
But yes, he is gay.
@@carlwheezer1640 .....please look at my comment again 😅 I think you misunderstood what I was saying
Or was it the way I worded it?
Kis is not gay, he's homosexual, like Freddy Mercury
i want him
He wants to get back to the case
Even Kim knows the cringiness of trying to make your sexuality your most defining trait. He'll spare you the cringe and tell you himself what his most defining trait is, he's the goddamn detective who's here to get the job done! honestly I feel like a lot of modern fiction writers can learn from this example.
I ship so hard
Reaction Speed: Success
Also Reaction Speed: Uhm... uh...
Kim's nearly perfect.
"Uhm... Uh..." thats so fucking funny lol
We have a chance!!!!
love that homosexual underground phrases things the way that it does because harry...theres a reason you spent 8 hours thinking about your and other peoples sexuality (kims, the smoker) because you are bi. it isnt rumination with no basis. you say to kim "ive finally managed to stop obsessing over my sexuality" and he doesnt really reprimand you for it, but kim is secure in who he is and would like to get back to the case.
To be fair questioning your sexuality is indeed a 20 hour mind project
Finally the Kim memes make sense to me!
Can’t believe we didn’t find it throughout my play AAAAA so much better now!!! And I anyway sort of guessed that Kim is gay 💓❤️🔥
Imagine Drama being like: "aint no way, he must be lying, we need another 8 hours to think it over"
I was asking for a friend...
1:04 dayum, twitter in a nutshell.
🏳🌈
Trash
His professionalism is utmost, i hada hint or hunch, but just fluttered over the fact subconsciously. The skinny professional dude trope? Has this concept been done enough to be a trope? Anyways
In the word of the Great Juan Gabriel "You dont ask about what you see"
Game speaks not to Harry, but to a player,
"Uhm... Uh..."
I have no idea what this game is and I am so confused why did I get this
Meme material
So Kim is homosexual? I'm actually surprised. But i'm okay with the news.
we cant marry him can we?
awesome!! good for them!
This game…
Nice
WHAT
Gayyyyyyyyyyy
Woo!
What? I thought he had a thing for Alice... They way he talked to her...
You mean, being nice to her?
@@endervalentine9588 idk, he was being a little too nice to her, and there was something in his voice...
@@alzvaracc I think they’re just friends
@@endervalentine9588 well, now it's obvious
@@alzvaracc straight people are something else
I can't tell if he's actually gay or is just saying yes so we shut up and get back to the case. Doesn't help that it was Drama that confirmed it.
he's gay.
Who knows? Both of it can be valid, but Considering lbgti is trending right now I have no doubt everyone's scrambling to pick the former as canon, even if the game never confirmed it directly outside of his one ambiguous statement
@@kraney195 why are y'all so adamant about this, he's gay. plain and simple.
@@jacm4150 Why are you so adamant against this? I swear Shippers always turn into the most facts-based people on the planet whenever the evidence slighty points there way.
@@megabear8905 Mein brother in christ, he is. He confirmed it. Kim is known for being blunt and straightforward, so he answered yes if not he would deter or say 'no'. Simple as that.
i didn't wana know this...
Boo fucking hoo
Maybe you should stop obsessing over others people sexuality
I hate how the game pretends to be an open rpg, but then decides to lecture you about the things you choose.
The third person narrator really does the game a disservice by commenting on nearly everything you do.
It’s not even introspective. I don’t need someone to tell me what my Harry thinks or does. I want to decide that.
Omg kim/the whole game is ruined for me now ...there's zero chance a person like kim could exist in the real world
The coolest gay video game character
You’ll find your man one day buddy
This made me a little sad. I was hoping that of all the characters in the game he had a loving wife and children awaiting his return home.
Can still be a loving husband and kids xD
@@toolatetothestory🫵🤢
@@sxteya Begone, homophobe 🤮 Go back to your church with the statistically likely chomos
@@sxteya cry about it
kim has a loving husband and kids awaiting at home, cry about it lol
Now i feel less bad for picking traditionalist dialog to piss off kim
Why?
@@johnnorris5675 how can a good cop bad cop dynamic be convincing if it isnt genuine to the core, i want to be holding my weapon and my gun and sing a military march song and point that shit at the suspect while kim tries to comfort him
@@alexiosmonary3388 I am confused as to how that relates to you feeling less bad.
@@johnnorris5675 than you clearly haven't toned down volition in any of you're playthroughs, you're probably sane to the point you would ask the bartender to pour a shot of orange juice, stop sane'ing and get retarded, a gay centrist bottom detective and a bi fascist drunkard go together like mom and dad (they're still divorced but you get what im saying)
@@johnnorris5675He's trying to be edgy "I don't care about this genuinely good person because I hate good things in the world with all of my outdated ideologies".
Feels like this game is brainwashing you.
This is a completely optional thought that gives you absolutely zero benefits and the game makes fun of you for pursuing it anyway. In my opinion DE is highly intelligent its handling of many topics and I find it really hard to see how anyone could be "brainwashed" by anything in it; unless the message is that small Finnish children are awful and should be avoided
you don't need a justification for wanting to go 'ew gays icky' just own it and accept the consequences
@@telidro That is exactly the message. Don't trust Finnish children. Its bad for your longevity and good fortune.
Yeah Kim Kitsuragi made me gay ):
If seeing Kim "Brainwashes" into liking men then I have news for you buddy.
This really ruined the game for me. Personally I think Harry should have kick dropped Kim after this reveal tbh would have really heightened the tension.
Well, what ruined the game for me was that there wasn't an option to make out with Kim after this reveal.
@@senbontorii2680 we need a mod to correct that option, one that allows us to kiss Kim every time we want to
snowflake lmao
Our society has this issue on such an abhorrent scale. I dont care that you are gay or not or whatever, stop shoving it in my face and everyone mind their own.
Kim is literally giving you the shorstest answer possible, and *you* have to go out of *your* way to ask *him*, you are all the same, you don't want things to change because you don't like you can punch downwards as easily anymore
@@itsyasoph sounds like a lot of seething to me lol
We "minded our business" for about 18 centuries, from the rise of christianity in until extremely recent times, and all it resulted in was that homophobia and trasphobia irreversibly cemented itself in western cultural canon.
We didn't get the right to "mind our own business" until people started shouting in the streets and throwing bricks at cops, and *now* people want to play the "if you play nice and assimilate you'll be treated fine" card? Fuck that
Places like Florida clearly show that if you turn down the pressure for even a second, the reactionaries will do everything in their might to push the boundaries as far back as possible - once the "loud queers" are dealth with we'll be back to the 2010's when it was "nonbinaries" who were the problem, then "cut the T" crap, then "bisexuality isn't real, pick a side crap", and so on until conversion therapies are back (if they even left in your state in the first place)
I am minding my own fucking business, my business is that half of the bloody country is voting for a party actively trying to revoke my basic human rights
@@itsyasoph LITERALLY im convinced this comment is some really bad attention seeking ragebait.
Our society has this issue on such an abhorrent scale. I dont care that you're a homephobe or not or whatever, learn some human empathy, shut up, stop shoving it in my face and everyone mind their own!