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Disco Elysium: Calling Kim a Slur

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  • Опубліковано 15 сер 2024
  • Never would have done this if no one asked for it.
    Kim's actor puts on a good performance. I genuinely felt bad about this.
    0:00 The Incident
    1:23 Apologizing
    3:07 Continuing to be a Dick

КОМЕНТАРІ • 463

  • @God9OuterSpace
    @God9OuterSpace 3 роки тому +5467

    Hurting Kim like that is worse than setting a puppy orphanage on fire

    • @Frazer2
      @Frazer2 Рік тому

      Even when you are purposely trying to disappoint him even mildly, you absolutely FEEL like a piece of shit.

    • @jablinski_time
      @jablinski_time Рік тому +50

      I can confirm this

    • @assasinezioayditore
      @assasinezioayditore Рік тому +18

      Same thing tbh

    • @Jules-69lol
      @Jules-69lol Рік тому +4

      huh

    • @JB-xl2jc
      @JB-xl2jc 6 місяців тому +8

      I realized that I would feel worse about saying this slur to Kim than about letting Kim get shit (but obviously both are horrible). Which is a strange thing to think, one could've killed him, the other hurts him only emotionally.... and yet...

  • @katn3344
    @katn3344 3 роки тому +3959

    This is the most painful thing I’ve ever seen in a video game

    • @frocco7125
      @frocco7125 2 роки тому +141

      [EMPATHY]: easy - Success

  • @marskessler
    @marskessler Рік тому +1035

    > I got good ending, now let's discover all the other content
    > You want me to hurt WHO?

    • @brendanfinan3257
      @brendanfinan3257 5 місяців тому +4

      who are you quoting?

    • @DolanDuking
      @DolanDuking Місяць тому

      @@brendanfinan3257 There were no quotation marks in that comment

    • @RIISK04
      @RIISK04 Місяць тому

      ​@@brendanfinan3257himself?

    • @ssebasgoo
      @ssebasgoo 12 днів тому

      I've also seen you could punch cuno in the face. Who does that?

    • @TheHippyProductions
      @TheHippyProductions 6 днів тому

      ​@@ssebasgoo I punched Cuno, got his respect, and we became bros after that in my playthrough

  • @yepyepyepyep8604
    @yepyepyepyep8604 2 роки тому +2877

    Kim being disappointed in you is worse than your own mother saying she's dissapointed

  • @lifeinvader1016
    @lifeinvader1016 2 роки тому +3003

    the whole "you've been calling me 'Kim' this whole time" thing was really cleaver of the writers

    • @Tuskbumper
      @Tuskbumper 2 роки тому +812

      100% I think It's easier to take it as Harrier is just an amnesiac and thinks like a child/ in an very immature way
      Which is why he's like "Kim look at this thing or that."
      But turning it on it's head with the "You have no respect for me, it all makes sense." was very clever I definitely agree.

    • @pabloc8808
      @pabloc8808 Рік тому +705

      @@Tuskbumper 100% that, especially because well, Kim never calls you out on it unless you choose to be an ass in this part of the game. This implies he doesn't actually mind Harry ignoring his rank and calling him by his name, as long as Harry shows respect towards him, the RCM and the case they're working on, but if Harry is an asshole towards Kim he takes note of the disrespect

    • @n0xure
      @n0xure Рік тому +292

      Just realized that Claire (the union boss) is pretty much the only character who calls you Harry - and you can alos take that however you want: at one hand it's a power move and clearly meant to mock the questionable authority of the RCM, but on the other hand: the fact that it's literally the first time in the game someone is calling you by your name is also disarming - he's only character shrewd enough to understand that someone high up at the RCM is trying to fuck you by putting you on that case with only Kim as backup; and even though he's exploiting that weakness - he acknowledges the human cost of the political games that you're caught in between.

    • @BlaizeEternal
      @BlaizeEternal Рік тому +252

      @@n0xure Kim will call you by Harry occasionally, usually it's out of concern though. More personal and empathetic like after you get shot (i think its if you have a high trust stat with him)

    • @maxmustermann-zx9yq
      @maxmustermann-zx9yq Рік тому +35

      ​@@n0xureI assume I'm not really spoiling anything to you when I say, that guy payed to have the other candidate in line for his position assassinated, he hoards the power and wealth by manipulating others to do his dirty work, so he doesn't have to risk anything himself
      He is "helping" Harry prove that the murder wasn't done by the Hardy Boys bc he already knows they didn't do it and it would be a justification to strike at the union, at the same time buttering Harry up in case he needs his report to "polished"
      You even found out that he had Harry shadowed since arrival and instead of stopping his self destruction they (its 2 twins BTW) had their agents collect dirt on Harry

  • @ninja3212
    @ninja3212 2 роки тому +3528

    Disappointing Kim is heart-wrenching, but the part that really does it for me is Volition's reaction to you accepting that you're an irretrievable human catastrophe. Volition, who the whole game is trying to get you to face reality and do what is right for you, who is always level headed and unemotive, is absolutely floored that you don't even feel the need to change at all. That is true horror, your own self finally giving up on you and accepting that you don't even want to be better.

    • @Ooffoop
      @Ooffoop Рік тому +2

      I mean at a certain point fuck em

    • @tinyplaidninjas8868
      @tinyplaidninjas8868 Рік тому +317

      I confess, I put loads of points into volition, not because I need more Morale points, but because Harry desperately needs a voice in his head telling him not to kill himself.

    • @Adanu191
      @Adanu191 Рік тому +33

      I had my Harry be better for himself. Relying on Kim was stupid when he was plainly killing himself with the drinking. On top of that, Kin is far too uptight.

    • @Xander77Ru
      @Xander77Ru Рік тому +68

      "I don't want to get better. I want to get worse."

    • @safe-keeper1042
      @safe-keeper1042 Рік тому +82

      Yeah, holy shit, volition sounds so incredibly hurt and disappointed when he realizes you don't even want to improve yourself.

  • @googplusisawful1922
    @googplusisawful1922 Рік тому +1087

    "if they don't mean anything, why do you say them?"
    damn. that's solid.

    • @davestrider9900
      @davestrider9900 Рік тому +63

      It hit me hard and I've never been even close to Harry's situation. It is a beautiful quote.

  • @GLENNACHEEMS
    @GLENNACHEEMS 2 роки тому +774

    my authority check was at 97% for this check and i fucking crumpled after failing it and having this happen

    • @rotveller9648
      @rotveller9648 Рік тому +17

      Same situation

    • @WWEECENA
      @WWEECENA Рік тому +77

      This is hilarious lmao, you poor guys, but moments like these are part of what makes the game great because you cant take anything for granted

    • @madeofmars
      @madeofmars Рік тому +55

      this, this is why i quicksave

    • @Romanticoutlaw
      @Romanticoutlaw 8 місяців тому +64

      I borrowed your luck for a 3% roll that I succeeded first try, and I apologize

  • @Erlkonig6109
    @Erlkonig6109 2 роки тому +1802

    hearing kim yell at you is one of the most terrifying things ever honestly

    • @ThePermanentMoose
      @ThePermanentMoose Рік тому

      I am proud to say the only time Kim had ever yelled at me was when I stuck my right thumb(my sword thumb) up my ass in front of him and Evrart

  • @Battlefieldtripshow
    @Battlefieldtripshow Рік тому +1256

    The thing that hurts the most about this scene is that no one else in the room responds. No one calls him out, the music doesn't stop, no one even stops dancing. Nobody else in the room gives a shit.

    • @komikett
      @komikett Рік тому +146

      Oh, my bad, at first I thought it said “you might be imagining it, but it feels like Egg Head turned down the volume down. Such is his respect.” after Kim walked out, but it’s because Harry stopped dancing. 😢 ahhhh that’s so sad!!!! I thought Egg ahead noticed at first, but no one does anything 😖

    • @Sasha-jo4tw
      @Sasha-jo4tw Рік тому +63

      to be fair they're just kids. kids usually dont interrupt when adults are fighting

    • @tarfielarchelone2674
      @tarfielarchelone2674 Рік тому +20

      ​@@Sasha-jo4tw they're 30 lol

    • @Sasha-jo4tw
      @Sasha-jo4tw Рік тому +3

      @@tarfielarchelone2674 how do you know?

    • @sydneygorelick7484
      @sydneygorelick7484 Рік тому +46

      ​@@Sasha-jo4tw Andre is "older than 20" and balding. 30 is a reasonable guess

  • @shedal2571
    @shedal2571 2 роки тому +1634

    Wow, he stayed quiet about not liking being called Kim; if you didn't go through this route, you'd never know.

    • @alazkazam
      @alazkazam 2 роки тому +409

      he says he *prefers* being called liutenant multiple times im pretty sure

    • @jzenhenko
      @jzenhenko 2 роки тому +193

      I definitely picked that up and always called him Lt Kitsuragi

    • @blablablanana
      @blablablanana 2 роки тому +494

      He also said that hes okay with being called kim because its short and convenient. I guess it just depends on your relationship with him or choices you make

    • @ryanspencer3106
      @ryanspencer3106 2 роки тому +525

      It seems like he's fine with people he trusts and likes calling him Kim, but it's insulting when someone he dislikes doing it, as he sees it as them looking down on him and not acknowledging all his efforts

    • @jackuval9362
      @jackuval9362 Рік тому +116

      @@jzenhenko I didn't even know it was possible to call him Lieutenant instead of just Kim, in fact I always wondered why it felt weird to choose "Kim" options and it's because he doesn't call you "Harry" or "Raphael"

  • @Maedawg0001
    @Maedawg0001 2 роки тому +1937

    there are so many parts of Disco Elysium I will never see. I never want to go through this. I never want to read this conversation. I never want to be in this situation. In a game where choices matter, usually it's fun to see where all of the choices lead, but not here. not this game. Some choices go places that hurt my own spirit so much, that I would never feel comfortable playing a game like that.

    • @thiccalbert
      @thiccalbert 2 роки тому +57

      So other people think like that too...

    • @kitovalle3981
      @kitovalle3981 Рік тому +142

      For me that's the one of the strongest points the game makes, such is life, most of the time you don't know what choices will lead you to hurting situations, and even if you do, sometimes you don't have any other option, sometimes we fuck up good, hell sometimes we don't even get that we fucked up in the moment or we are unable to accept it, disco elysium for me is about failing, and hurting, but must importantly, it is about surviving, living with the consequences of you actions, learning what you can and standing up in the face of literal monsters. The pale, the love of your life leaving you, even the case itself are all adversities outside of our understanding and it can feel like there's no hope, there's nothing you can do to stop these monsters from eating you piece by piece, except there is, you solve the case didn't you? Maybe if you push on you'll be able to defeat more of the monsters, and that ressonated with me a lot, but that's just my interpretation

    • @raspymorten
      @raspymorten Рік тому +114

      I'd take actual moral damage if I went down this route.

    • @kyubiiofrage
      @kyubiiofrage Рік тому +44

      Apparently if you say you see him as “a true *Vacholiere*”, he’ll really appreciate it as “no one has ever said that to (him) before.”
      So just in case you fail the dance check, you can still make it something really touching.

    • @falconeshield
      @falconeshield Рік тому +30

      This is the only game that encourages you to NOT 100% it

  • @EdgarAllanPogo
    @EdgarAllanPogo 2 роки тому +950

    Man upsetting Kim is like THE WORST thing. I would have save scummed if I ever failed this I don't even care. Like I feel sick just watching this.

    • @inkdash2341
      @inkdash2341 Рік тому

      I failed this check randomly, my authority stat was really high - and I was horrified by needing to call Kim a monkey fucker, so I reloaded and replayed HALF AN HOUR and then save-scummed until I won the dance check. Goddamn, sir, I can fail a lotta things but Kim deserves every ounce of my love and respect, and I will not have it otherwise

    • @rangergxi
      @rangergxi Рік тому +41

      Being able to call him a true Revacholier somewhat makes up for it.

    • @bottlesalts
      @bottlesalts День тому

      @@rangergxi still, he leaves your side for the day :( i can't do work without kim by my side to gawk at my stupidity

  • @alanspirand880
    @alanspirand880 2 роки тому +819

    Oh noooo. Jeez, failing that authority dice roll has one of the most punishing consequences I've seen in the game. It feels so terrible when you *have* to say terrible shit because you failed a skill check, but that also makes this experience very real.

    • @uhoh7545
      @uhoh7545 2 роки тому +95

      If doing a sick gainer on a grandma wasn't enough of a warning for failed skill checks, that's really on you

    • @NotBamOrBing
      @NotBamOrBing 2 роки тому +92

      @@uhoh7545 doesn't the game actually reward you for doing the sick gainer on the grandma? the amount you have to pay is reduced by like 30

    • @blakethesnake6686
      @blakethesnake6686 Рік тому +44

      @@NotBamOrBing 60 if you pass empathy check

    • @kyubiiofrage
      @kyubiiofrage Рік тому +16

      @@NotBamOrBingyou can also get it reduced if you don’t run and pass an authority check. Down to 30 if you’re lucky.

    • @janusceasar7851
      @janusceasar7851 Рік тому +32

      ​@@NotBamOrBing
      the game has a 50/50 rewards on good and bad choice. Even the game warns us that being too good in something will be detrimental to Harry.

  • @globoboboglob3270
    @globoboboglob3270 3 роки тому +1024

    Fuck... I took IRL moral damage from watching this.

  • @LovelyLori193
    @LovelyLori193 2 роки тому +590

    God it breaks my heart to see Kim upset

  • @Sp0ttheCat1701
    @Sp0ttheCat1701 2 роки тому +1038

    Honestly as an Asian-American person I love this scene. Kim acts and says exactly what I wanted too every time someone was racist to me but I was too shocked to say.

    • @user-gg3xn4yh9u
      @user-gg3xn4yh9u 2 роки тому +136

      As an asian person too I honor how Kim reacts to racist comments. he is always calm but he knows what to say!!

    • @falconeshield
      @falconeshield Рік тому +14

      ​@@user-gg3xn4yh9u Best husbando

    • @TheSonyron
      @TheSonyron Рік тому +4

      Why is it even a slur specifically for asians. I don't want to sound like an asshole but I literally don't know the context behind the slur. Can someone explain it, sorry for asking

    • @thetaaaa
      @thetaaaa Рік тому +103

      ​@@TheSonyron "Yellow" is a common and enduring slur for people of (usually) East Asian descent. It goes back to the 1700s but was popularized in the 19th century as the term "yellow peril" because a common way to refer to the perceived threat that Asian influence had on Western (American, British, European) lifestyles. The term is extremely racist and is based on skin colour.
      "Monkey" or "monkey man" is also a common racial slur, often for black people, but also used for just about any non-white ethnic group. It comes from the belief that non-white ethnic groups are somehow "less evolved" or more "primal" than white people.
      I did my best to explain this tactfully and accurately, but I am white and this is not my area of expertise, so if anyone reading this has any corrections or additions please let me know.

    • @safe-keeper1042
      @safe-keeper1042 Рік тому +22

      As a white guy growing up in a white country, I can't imagine. Must be so incredibly frustrating.

  • @one-cardpony460
    @one-cardpony460 3 роки тому +457

    "I have to protect the investigation from you."
    I thought the way I played it was soul-wrenching, geez!

  • @Se7enRemain
    @Se7enRemain 2 роки тому +455

    This scene was fucking fantastic. I literally covered my mouth in he real world when I realized what I made Tequila Sunset say. I got caught up in making Kim dance, so used to finger guns working I didn't even realize I called him a 'yellow monkey fucker.' My regret going into the apology was genuine

    • @tilmania361
      @tilmania361 Рік тому +25

      same here i got so excited by the idea of seeing kim dance i only went click-click-click until it was too late :(

    • @AgniFirePunch
      @AgniFirePunch Рік тому +4

      I think you mean Raphael Ambrosius Cousteau!

  • @amishninja1
    @amishninja1 2 роки тому +347

    Daaaaamn. I've played through this game twice and didn't know you could even be that bad to him. Kim is so god-damned Lawful Neutral that you can call him a racial slur, prompting an emotional response born out of years of prejudicial trauma, double down on it, and he STILL sticks with the investigation. That's good honor.

    • @mr.presidnt
      @mr.presidnt 29 днів тому +4

      you know hes lawful good. you know it.

  • @gryynnn
    @gryynnn 10 місяців тому +306

    I think it's good writing that if you fail the check, there's no way to back out of calling Kim the slur. Even if you've been making all the "right" choices with Harry and playing him as someone trying to get better, the fact that he has the capacity to blurt out a slur without thinking says a lot about who he was before losing his memory (and still has the potential to be)

    • @genericname2747
      @genericname2747 10 місяців тому +22

      Yes, but also.
      Feels bad hurting Kim :(

    • @gryynnn
      @gryynnn 10 місяців тому

      @@genericname2747 Real

    • @gianni50725
      @gianni50725 8 місяців тому +13

      What? The man is capable of saying and doing all sorts of insane things in this game if you fail checks. Just look at the failed authority check with Titus (no matter what, you can't fully back out of doing something dumb in front of him). Trying to judge his past character based off of these checks is dumb.

    • @jonahulichny9874
      @jonahulichny9874 8 місяців тому +49

      @@gianni50725or maybe what op outlined just happens so much more than just calling Kim a slur. The “who harry was before the amnesia and has the potential to be” thing.

    • @jogclemson4430
      @jogclemson4430 8 місяців тому

      ​@giannih5072 The failed check with Titus is more proof that checks reveal who he used to be. He can threaten suicide to get what he wants just like he did when he first showed up to the Whirling n Rags

  • @Frazer2
    @Frazer2 2 роки тому +305

    "You fucked up and you couldn't even say you're SORRY." story of my life.

  • @ZwiekszoneRyzyko
    @ZwiekszoneRyzyko 2 роки тому +164

    This is why despite finishing the game multiple times I still cannot get the Baddest of the Bad Cops achievement. I simply do not have the heart to hurt Kim 😢

    • @DanPhantomFan
      @DanPhantomFan Рік тому +26

      I got the achievement on Day 1 but I felt horrible so I sent Harry to sleep on the trash the next day

    • @snartboy5000
      @snartboy5000 15 днів тому

      @@DanPhantomFanbad detectives get put in the dumpster bed

  • @attetate
    @attetate 2 роки тому +259

    I failed a 97% roll and got this

    • @Noelciaaa
      @Noelciaaa 2 роки тому +51

      same with the mercenary confrontation. it was going so well and i also had 97% there to protect Kim and failed... HOW!!

    • @BooguyTheAdept
      @BooguyTheAdept 2 роки тому +48

      Yeah, I don't like the people who scam-save, but it's totally justified in this segment. And in mercenary brawl.

    • @Noodles4Ever1000
      @Noodles4Ever1000 2 роки тому +6

      im here to offer my sincere condolences

    • @Noodles4Ever1000
      @Noodles4Ever1000 2 роки тому +43

      IT HAPPENED TO ME IT LITERALLY FUCKING HAPPENED TOT ME WE ARE BROTHERS IN ARMS NOW I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS FUCKING HAPPENED TO ME

    • @googplusisawful1922
      @googplusisawful1922 Рік тому

      I would immediately save scum 😭💀

  • @jinx1987
    @jinx1987 Рік тому +174

    That should’ve led to an instant game over

  • @PandaLord13
    @PandaLord13 7 місяців тому +41

    You can shoot a kid in this game, and yet this is still somehow quite possibly the most evil thing you can do.

  • @multicooldude131
    @multicooldude131 3 роки тому +388

    Lmao I just beat this game today, Kim is one of the greatest characters of all time and it’s a crime to disrespect him like that

  • @Jango172
    @Jango172 3 роки тому +309

    i asked for this, oh my god you even did the worst possible choices please i need to sit on a roof for three hours

    • @MuttonChopCop
      @MuttonChopCop  3 роки тому +118

      Would it feel better if I did a compilation of being bros with Kim?

    • @Jango172
      @Jango172 3 роки тому +70

      @@MuttonChopCop i wont come down until you do

    • @MuttonChopCop
      @MuttonChopCop  3 роки тому +47

      @@Jango172 Oof. I hope thats not the case. My upload schedule is trash.

    • @MuttonChopCop
      @MuttonChopCop  3 роки тому +68

      @@Jango172 making one right now. So far I recorded scenes of the aces low. the "crime bros" drama fail with the shopkeeper, joking about the body being dead, and dancing.
      I'm gonna add whistling while on the swingset, talking about how kim names cases, and the end of the tribunal.
      What else should be in the comp?

  • @anyoneattheendoftime4932
    @anyoneattheendoftime4932 2 роки тому +283

    This is worse than Undertale's genocide route.

    • @falconeshield
      @falconeshield Рік тому +4

      DAMN

    • @Zarmdthecoolest
      @Zarmdthecoolest 9 місяців тому +9

      At least the monsters didn't think you were their friend

    • @Zarmdthecoolest
      @Zarmdthecoolest 9 місяців тому +1

      I mean. I think Toriel did. But she had no reason to trust you as much as Kim did

    • @vincevvn
      @vincevvn 7 місяців тому +4

      Not even close

    • @baronreeves9232
      @baronreeves9232 7 місяців тому

      I feel conflicted about this

  • @xPrecisionx
    @xPrecisionx 2 роки тому +114

    This is the fucked-up alternate timeline where Kim treats you the same way precinct 41 does

    • @ginar2339
      @ginar2339 Рік тому +33

      It’s not an alternate timeline. It’s the consequences of your own actions. And based on the way the rest of 41 treats Harry, my guess is that he’s done something similar with all of them.

    • @Daniel_WR_Hart
      @Daniel_WR_Hart 10 місяців тому +18

      @@ginar2339 You can call the woman officer horse-faced the first time you see her in person

    • @anusaukko6792
      @anusaukko6792 8 місяців тому +7

      @@Daniel_WR_Hart Past-Harry was dangerously based jesus christ

  • @InkAndSmudge
    @InkAndSmudge Рік тому +92

    It was interesting to hear Kim getting angry. I didn't realise calling him by his name came across as disrespectful either. His voice actor does a great job of sounding angry, I really felt this!

  • @weirdbug_
    @weirdbug_ 9 місяців тому +93

    i got kim to dance and failed a 98% check right after that and harry screamed something like ''finally you monkey fucker'' I panicked and immediately alt+F4'd out of the game lmao

  • @enniusdrusus867
    @enniusdrusus867 2 роки тому +73

    I've gone soft. I can't even continue watching this vid. Jesus. This game is so good at making you invest in the characters.

  • @n0t_kgb253
    @n0t_kgb253 2 роки тому +121

    I felt bad even just watching this, holy shit.

  • @FoolsGil
    @FoolsGil Рік тому +500

    I only wish the devs let Harry get punched out if you push it too far. Kim folds you flat, you wake up, he's gone, he reappears the next day, refuses to even speak about what happened.

    • @fluffyravens3758
      @fluffyravens3758 Рік тому +196

      That's the thing, isn't it? For one, it shows Kim's strength and fortitude to not do that - but for another, Kim knows that in their society he can't get away with something like that the way Harry can because of what he looks like. He's built up that massive restraint and force-of-will to make it so people *have* to take him seriously (it's telling that the Brow-Off shows that Kim's Authority is absolutely off the charts). Kim and Harry are great foils - they're only one year apart in age, both born Revacholians, both in the police force for twenty years (Harry has actually only been there for 18 years), but the way they've been treated in their world is very different.
      Even beyond the racist comments he gets from other characters in Martinaise, it's telling that Kim is as clever as you, and *considerably* more competent, and yet despite Past-Harry's constant drinking and crazy-difficulty-to-work-with, Harry's still been been offered two more promotions than Kim has over the same amount of time (to be a lieutenant double-yefritor instead of a lieutenant). If Kim lost his cool and hit Harry, it'd be blamed on him.

    • @8-bitmonster624
      @8-bitmonster624 Рік тому +90

      @@fluffyravens3758 In Harry's defense of his rank, though I have no doubt Revacholian's and the RCM treat Kim differently. It's stated in the game that Harry started working himself to death after the break up, taking roughly two cases a week! which has lead to his whopping 216 cases solved with only room for one more open case in his ledger. He got his rank cause of his eccentric superstar cop persona and unorthodox approach to interrogation I.e." the can opener". plus Kim was a junior cop for thirteen year technically which in my opinion is where the real prejudice was, seeing how clever and competent he was!

    • @fluffyravens3758
      @fluffyravens3758 Рік тому +9

      @@8-bitmonster624 That's true, thanks for adding on!

    • @8-bitmonster624
      @8-bitmonster624 Рік тому +10

      @@fluffyravens3758 absolutely! We're Disco Elysiusts here!

    • @falconeshield
      @falconeshield Рік тому +1

      @@8-bitmonster624 That only happens if you choose those options though.

  • @ejynk
    @ejynk Рік тому +47

    i'm an east asian guy and holy shit what he says is kind of just what i want to say sometimes. oh, man, this scene was so good because it's so realistic. nobody bats an eye, nobody calls him out on his bullshit, the victim is expected to and does in fact not retaliate because the fuck can you do in that kinda situation, where nobody gives a shit?

  • @MrFiremagnet
    @MrFiremagnet 2 роки тому +935

    Well, I'm a half asian in a culture that has racism pretty normalized, and I have to listen slurs almost on daily basis. They aren't that hurtful at all, to an adult person at least, but just as game said - it's like a broken record, heard one time too many. Feeling of alienation despite being diffirent in a look only is real. And his feelings and opinions are so on point. Hopefully it will make at least some people who play this game think about that stuff.

    • @TheButterMinecart1
      @TheButterMinecart1 2 роки тому +109

      It's not so much that it's outright offensive, but more so that it's just tiring to hear.

    • @MrFiremagnet
      @MrFiremagnet 2 роки тому +64

      @@TheButterMinecart1 yes, exactly.

    • @LieseFury
      @LieseFury 2 роки тому +112

      i'm a white person so i don't experience racism but this is very similar to the feeling i get when people talk shit about trans people or Autistic people. like, haha. your funny percent joke is a real banger the 700th time.

    • @Milkman69ner
      @Milkman69ner 2 роки тому +14

      I’m white and experience racism now daily. It’s really damn sad how the world nearly got rid of racism in the 90s and now it’s just everywhere all the time

    • @TheButterMinecart1
      @TheButterMinecart1 2 роки тому +42

      @@Milkman69ner *Did* the world nearly get rid of racism in the 90s?

  • @polliniciocanario1698
    @polliniciocanario1698 3 роки тому +160

    pls a compilation of being bros with kim

    • @MuttonChopCop
      @MuttonChopCop  3 роки тому +35

      making one right now. So far I recorded scenes of the aces low. the "crime bros" drama fail with the shopkeeper, joking about the body being dead, and dancing.
      I'm gonna add whistling while on the swingset, talking about how kim names cases, and the end of the tribunal.
      What else should be in the comp?

    • @MuttonChopCop
      @MuttonChopCop  3 роки тому +14

      There's another channel like mine. You might like some of his videos.
      ua-cam.com/video/yG1i88sjC7I/v-deo.html
      ua-cam.com/video/qpEw9pBBR4s/v-deo.html
      ua-cam.com/video/w7NNW11cYE8/v-deo.html

  • @Floweramon
    @Floweramon 2 роки тому +140

    Damn. I felt bad enough when I failed a skill check with the gardener and just randomly pointed out that she was black, which she brings up later (this was early in my first playthrough and I didn't understand the system fully so I hadn't even thought to save so I could try again), but this... I would take losing hours of progress from not saving over going forward with that. Kim's disappointment hurts so much.

  • @MrFoxInc
    @MrFoxInc Рік тому +55

    I am so grateful that I never even encountered this scenario. It would literally be the only time where "If you die in the game, you die in real life (on the inside)" wasn't just a meme, it would have been real.

  • @baconiam4027
    @baconiam4027 2 роки тому +71

    I couldn't go through with the failed skill check. Didn't even have the courage to leave the church, reloaded a quick save almost immediately...

  • @arielc7730
    @arielc7730 Рік тому +35

    I knew you needed Authority to pass the check and I reeaaaaaaaaaaaaally wanted to dance with Kim. I passed the check and I have never been so glad about anything. I had no idea this was the fail outcome and H. O. L. Y. S. H. I. T

  • @gamessdd4254
    @gamessdd4254 2 роки тому +77

    i'm a rough one but can't insult Kim. this scene definitely heartbreaking, i wanna hug this poor guy so much

  • @Kpsla
    @Kpsla Рік тому +42

    I love how he doesn't sound angry. He sounds hurt. Maybe this was the final straw, or maybe it was a devastating betrayal, but he wasn't prepared for it either way.

  • @laultimarebanada
    @laultimarebanada 6 місяців тому +11

    I love this one because you not only dissappoint Kim, but Volition as well. That "That's it? You don't even want to change?" is so powerful. Volition is one of the only aspects of yourself that are actively trying to cheer you up and make you a better person, and cop despite the situation. And yet there it is, absolutely disappointed at your own incompetence.

  • @alicebell4123
    @alicebell4123 Рік тому +39

    I’m curious how ‘continuing being a dick’ route affects confrontation with Precinct 41 when Kim gives you final evaluation and all

  • @dingleberryliespewer3177
    @dingleberryliespewer3177 Рік тому +37

    This is one of the most painful things I've seen in a video game. Kim is the best of the best, no matter what happened in my playthrough I knew he had my back so I was true to him. I cannot express how happy I am that I passed this skill check, this would have been the only failed check I would have save scummed.

  • @122josh
    @122josh 2 роки тому +48

    What monster would do this Kim is love Kim is life

  • @zaxxoid
    @zaxxoid 5 місяців тому +7

    I have to remind myself that it's all fiction to stop myself feeling ashamed just for watching; that's how effective the writing is. Wow.

  • @goosemoade5813
    @goosemoade5813 Рік тому +23

    To be honest I save scummed this check for like half an hour bc I had low authority. God this fucking kills me to watch

  • @snkhuong
    @snkhuong 2 роки тому +39

    as an asian guy grew up in the west, this hit me hard

  • @k80_
    @k80_ Рік тому +11

    “+1 Respects you” just makes it even worse.

  • @Kuraiomo
    @Kuraiomo 11 місяців тому +17

    "Games make you violent". Meanwhile I just wanna Kim to like Harry and don't wanna pick any mean dialogue options.

    • @Daniel_WR_Hart
      @Daniel_WR_Hart 10 місяців тому

      Have a playthrough where Half Light is your main skill

    • @Kuraiomo
      @Kuraiomo 10 місяців тому

      @@Daniel_WR_Hart Does not half light constantly tell you to kill people :^)?

  • @corncornrocks
    @corncornrocks 9 місяців тому +9

    Of course they hide one of my favorite dialogues behind the prerequisite of being an absolute dick.
    "What do you see when you look at me?"
    "A true Vacholiere."
    The vindication that Kim must have felt there makes me feel good inside, even though I'll never see this dialogue myself

  • @DylanBelievesInTheNet
    @DylanBelievesInTheNet Рік тому +17

    Unfathomable pain, literally your skill sets give up on you improving after that point.
    I could not go through playing that way myself, and I actually regret hearing this/seeing this.
    Great work to the writers and actual creators behind Disco Elysium, but how dare you lol

  • @pastapirate
    @pastapirate 10 місяців тому +15

    If I failed that check, I would immediately quit the game, no matter how much progress it would cost. This is just straight up heart-breaking

  • @Jenny-zu6nm
    @Jenny-zu6nm 2 роки тому +59

    on my first play through i failed the check and this happened.......cant describe how guilty i felt

    • @Jenny-zu6nm
      @Jenny-zu6nm 2 роки тому +24

      i reloaded instantly though so i didnt even know there was a conversation to be had outside lol

    • @Noelciaaa
      @Noelciaaa 2 роки тому +10

      @@Jenny-zu6nm yeah same. i didn't even finish the dialogue, just intentionally crashed the game lmao. this, yelling at Acele and failing to protect Kim at the shooting, were the only "cheats". all the other failures were just funny. these were too painful.

    • @AreweAble
      @AreweAble 2 роки тому +18

      instant reload. replay the game. reinstall. burn down your home and start anew

    • @Jenny-zu6nm
      @Jenny-zu6nm 2 роки тому +15

      @@AreweAble nuking my hometown cus i made kim sad

  • @luc1792
    @luc1792 2 роки тому +47

    Jesus fuck. I didn’t realise it could go this badly

  • @screamingphoenix8113
    @screamingphoenix8113 Рік тому +47

    Unironically, Disco Elysium portrays racism better than 99.9 percent of all media. I really hope they one day make an original movie or TV series, more people need to experience this.

  • @Ahicksaf
    @Ahicksaf 2 роки тому +298

    Kim is the most non-judgemental most understanding person you'll ever meet in your entire life. No wonder his a video game character and not someone real. People like that don't exist

    • @seacrystal6189
      @seacrystal6189 Рік тому +45

      There are people like that out there, they're just very hard to find

    • @Daniel_WR_Hart
      @Daniel_WR_Hart 10 місяців тому +1

      In my first playthrough I was very corrupt and racist, but I never got this scene because I failed the dance check so I was surprised that he could even get this angry

  • @DJCAT4545
    @DJCAT4545 2 роки тому +37

    I want to give Kim a hug

  • @iva3839
    @iva3839 2 роки тому +22

    omg this is so heartbreaking... scenes with Dora aren't even close

  • @Insanitydagger
    @Insanitydagger 2 роки тому +26

    this is so painful… kim… beautiful cinnamon roll too pure for this world

  • @thelaughingrouge
    @thelaughingrouge 2 роки тому +24

    WHO DARES SLUR MY BEST BOY?!

  • @orangejuice782
    @orangejuice782 Рік тому +19

    shaking and crying while trying to unpause this at 0:46 but being unable to because i do Not want to exist in a world where kim is hurt like this

  • @thetoaster6413
    @thetoaster6413 2 роки тому +23

    Thank you for doing this for all of us. I would never be able to go down this route, it genuinely hurts so much to make Kim dissapointed.

  • @helioobianchi
    @helioobianchi 6 місяців тому +4

    I'm gonna go play a genocide run in Undertale to lighten up the mood

  • @TheRandomYoYo
    @TheRandomYoYo 10 місяців тому +6

    I must mention. This moment is one of the best representations of the human condition. You are there. In the moment. Everything is going right. Everyone there is on your side. Taking vibe notes from you. And then... then you misread it for one moment. And call, Lieutenant Kim, the one who has, against his better judgement, backed you up through it all, a slur.
    Everything in your mind then turns 93 degrees. Nothing can bring back the vibe, nothing can take back the words, which you threw in a fit of blinding energy, nothing can win back the Lieutenant.
    As if you learned nothing, and are just coasting through it all, thinking you are invincible.
    These seemingly simple moments, with no bearing on the important events form and shape the entire future of the relationship.
    Always keep your vibe in check.

  • @nunbiz7328
    @nunbiz7328 2 роки тому +12

    Harry: "Can't anyone take a joke anymore"

  • @AutieZo
    @AutieZo 8 місяців тому +5

    I only spent 3 days with Kim, but i still feel heartbroken by the thought of hurting him

  • @CommissarMitch
    @CommissarMitch Рік тому +7

    Kim do make a very good point though:
    He has always given Harry his title; either Detective or Officer.
    But Harry has always called Kim by Kim. Sure if you play a friendly character then at the very least he will shake it off, but that got me.

  • @seaque.
    @seaque. 2 роки тому +102

    i was planning on superstar, racist, communist playthrough but seeing this makes me wonder if i can manage it.

    • @MuttonChopCop
      @MuttonChopCop  2 роки тому +49

      It's 100 percent possible. It just may count some racist answers under facism in your journal.
      You can still be a fascist communist tho. Nothing stops you.

    • @seaque.
      @seaque. 2 роки тому +29

      Nothing... except feeling guilty of my behaviours during the game.

    • @TheChatterbox1991
      @TheChatterbox1991 2 роки тому +11

      You can be a "less racist" facist in your playthrough.
      In fact if you do, Kim is lightly more sympathetic then not at all.

    • @avgvstvs7
      @avgvstvs7 2 роки тому +11

      @@seaque. Game sort of treats all types of right wing thought points as same and jumbles them together, you can be a pathetic straight up racist like lorry driver or revacholian indepedence supporter monarchist yet it all comes down to same shit, also if you play as a kingsman nationalist you might even change your mind a little on Kim

    • @genderlesswhale2868
      @genderlesswhale2868 Рік тому +21

      I did it and I quit halfway because, while this is the worst interaction, there are so many micro aggressions and casual disrespectful things you can say to Kim. It made me realise that when Kim is quiet or sounds dismissive towards you in a normal run, it is nothing compared to the cold silence when he gives up on you (My first run was also a hyper empathy autistic goober kind of run- kind of rp'd myself- so the difference was soooooo jarring. Going from Kim being pleasantly surprised that you care about his feelings to the resignation that he's in another awful situation with a fellow officer, yet again.).

  • @alleycatmoth
    @alleycatmoth Рік тому +5

    thank you for going through with this, i was able to go through with the genocide route in undertale, but this is waaaay too much for me i couldn't even imagine a playthrough of this game where i hurt this perfect man

  • @palomarivera5475
    @palomarivera5475 Рік тому +7

    Volition sounds like Kevan Brighting a bit when it's voice breaks from disappointment

  • @pigeon3264
    @pigeon3264 Рік тому +14

    Watching these options makes me want to open up my save to check on Kim even though we got the best possible ending and he's my bff :((

  • @Fr0stbite1801
    @Fr0stbite1801 2 роки тому +17

    I'm not here to watch this video. I'm just here to say that if I, maybe while under the influence of a lovecraftian mind-devourer, ever decide to make this specific dialogue option, I renounce my human rights forever.

  • @IshiiShiro8964
    @IshiiShiro8964 2 роки тому +10

    Oh god judging from the comments I don't even know if I want to see it anymore,
    thank god I passed this check first try

  • @periforbylee
    @periforbylee Рік тому +4

    In my first playthrough, I never rolled back the progress except for this scene when I failed the Authority check. It was terrible and I did not want to continue, ended up not seeing Kim’s dance moves! Now looking for his dance moves and alternative scenes in UA-cam. Thanks for uploading this.

  • @magdak6907
    @magdak6907 Рік тому +15

    I wanted to finish the game in 100% but my heart can't handle dialogues where we are mean to Kim

  • @hedgehog.of.cydonia
    @hedgehog.of.cydonia 2 роки тому +7

    „my half-brother” option makes me cry

  • @morganqorishchi8181
    @morganqorishchi8181 Місяць тому +2

    Every time I remember Kim's VA had only ever done minor voice work in commercials before this, it blows my mind. His performance makes me want to cry and hug him close.

  • @HR-pl7yy
    @HR-pl7yy Рік тому +5

    I couldn't even force myself to watch«continuing to be a Dick» part.

  • @chair_imagination5053
    @chair_imagination5053 3 роки тому +11

    Thank you fot doing this, it was very hard for me to do this in the game myself (Sorry for english, its not my language)

  • @cowboyanxiety
    @cowboyanxiety 10 місяців тому +2

    god im so glad i passed this check on the first try, would have been devastating to fail and have gone through this. however, my morbid curiosity NEEDED me to find out what the scene was like, so im glad i could watch it here. thanks for uploading!

  • @RogerBluesky
    @RogerBluesky 2 роки тому +9

    It was... Such a painful and hard process, to finish watching this video. My curiosity and eagerness to find out more about the universe I'm so fatally in love with fought to death with all saint and humane that is in me... My heart just started bleeding.

  • @haoshenme
    @haoshenme Рік тому +8

    Wow now I am so proud of myself choosing the lieutenant option after the pinball task. Kim didn't give a clear response to that, but he did hint it here and there.

  • @lillydevil2486
    @lillydevil2486 Рік тому +5

    Oh my god, stop. It physically hurts me to even IMAGINE doing this to Kim
    Kim is the best :(

  • @NatNatey
    @NatNatey Рік тому +7

    It's interesting that Kim calls you "detective" at the end -- based on that one Esprit de Corps check, it feels like "officer" would have fit better. Though I guess at this point *both* serve the same purpose, huh?

  • @komos3719
    @komos3719 Рік тому +5

    I'd rather die than let this occur

  • @glitchmaster2672
    @glitchmaster2672 11 місяців тому +2

    The one time you are allowed to reload your save.

  • @billtalent1
    @billtalent1 Рік тому +8

    This made me not want to finish the game. I wanted Kim to dance so I thought sure I'll do that. Then he just calls him a slur, and I'm like well this is not a very fair consequence.

  • @repleeca
    @repleeca 3 роки тому +15

    Jfc I actually started crying

  • @end2034
    @end2034 Рік тому +4

    Volition sounds so fucking surprised when you say you don't want to change like geez

  • @snrkbol
    @snrkbol 22 дні тому

    THIS PHYSICALLY HURTS Ty for doing the lords work owwew

  • @vadym5581
    @vadym5581 Місяць тому +1

    Harry: *calling Kim the most offensive slur known to man*
    Also Harry: 🕺🕺🕺

  • @plutototoh
    @plutototoh Рік тому +6

    I had heard that you could call Kim a slur if you messed up, one of the few spoilers I was grateful for to know I needed to save in advance just in case. It's been a while since I played and I've been curious bc this scene is infamous, but I couldn't even bring myself to look it up or watch it proper until now. It's way worse than I thought. I'm thankful you picked the kindest and the worst options, both, because I would never have the heart to do this myself :( Thank you for taking one for the team

  • @BlueBeetle1939
    @BlueBeetle1939 8 місяців тому +2

    I could never let this happen

  • @thepancakemann
    @thepancakemann Рік тому +3

    Failing this authority check was the only time in my entire playthrough where I reloaded an old save due to failure.

  • @drizzypuffs523
    @drizzypuffs523 Рік тому +3

    I save scammed this check so many times but the apology was actually nice

  • @handoverthestromboli6715
    @handoverthestromboli6715 Місяць тому

    God i love the extended metaphor of a "tape recorder" as Harry's thoughts and feelings molding around the new world he's learning about that appears all over this game "Spining on empty, forever," "a magnetic tape reader on the world," to UI for the text display scrolling out like a thin strip of tape and all the sound effects and now "like a man who's heard the same record one too many times" for Kim's persistent experience with racism in the RCM
    Good shit