How far North can you get, only using local trains?
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- In the UK, each service is given a train identification indicator or "headcode" (as they used to be displayed at the end of the train). The indicator is 4 characters, with the first character being a number that indicates the type of train. A "1" indicates this is an express passenger service, whilst a "2" indicates that this is a local or stopping train.
So the challenge is, how far North can you get in a day, if you only travel by "Twos".
Here's the rules:
+ you can start on the first train of the morning out of any station
+ you must travel only on trains with a "2" headcode
+ you must always leave the station you arrived at - no other forms of transport are allowed, including walking between stations
I won't leave any more details here... you'll have to watch the video to see how I get on and where I go and on which trains.
As I say at the end, this was the best I've come up with, but I'm happy to hear from you if you think there's another route that can gain more lattitude than I managed.
finally, I have to add a huge thanks to @travelling_turtle , who's previous exploits have given me the inspiration to try my own challenge. I'm sure if he'd done it, it would have been called #Two24
I do wish the railway companies would show the headcodes on timetables and departure boards, as they do in mainland Europe. That extra bit of information can be useful sometimes when searching for your train.
Yes. I know exactly what you mean!
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I suggested that 40 years ago as a guard.
@@josephturner7569 I'm sure there'll be a meeting scheduled some time soon to discuss the suggestion 🤣
I think Elizabeth line shows the head code
I also think that Eurostar show the train numbers on their timetables.
Brilliant idea, brilliantly executed! Well done. Just glad you didn't have to grapple with the existential question of whether you could use a class 9 train or not - at my local station, the all-station Thameslinks are class 9s, but go to Euston and the class 9s are Avanti intercities to Scotland...!
Haha yes. Others have commented the same. But it wasn't a "not 1s" challenge it was "only 2s" so the question never really came up.
I may try this again on a different route, but not until the mornings/nights get a lot lighter.
Thank you for watching and for the kind comment. Coming from the master of the genre I feel it is high praise indeed 👍
@@JohnnyHooverTravels On RTT 9s are shown as Express Passenger so same status as 1s
Wow that's very enjoyable. Lots to see and hear about including the trains. You've left all the other rail travel guys in the dust.
High praise indeed. You are very kind. Thank you 👍
Well done for getting so far using only local trains John, that was certainly an epic journey
You're tellin' me! I was pretty tired on that last run to Dumfries. But hey, it worked!
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to be fair the fact this is possible shows how remarkably interconnected the whole rail network is, however whilst the total ticket price is cheaper than what you would pay using express, I'm not sure it warrants the amount of time it took, since a coach can do it 6 hours quicker for £40 less than what was paid here
haha yes! I can see no logical reason for taking this route unless you are doing a challenge like mine or you just love riding on trains to and from odd places.
As you say, if you really need to get there and not part with too much money, then I suspect the coach will be the way to do it.
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Thoroughly enjoyed your video. As a Bristolian by birth and resident of Worcester I really like that section. But the whole video was highly entertaining. Thank you
Yes, it was nice to be forced onto some routes by the rules and Worcester was certainly a bonus for me too.
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That Deacon Blue poster at Bristol Parkway is a local landmark now. It's been there for about 3 years!
haha - you know I did think it looked a bit dated. Good spot!
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That must`ve taken loads of planning! We were quite exhausted by the end of it :D Have a great weekend.
"we wre exhausted at the end of it" - then imagine how I felt! That shot that I took the following morning replaces a voice to camera thing I did when I actually arrived the night before. I realised the following morning I was pretty incoherent 🤣
I travelled many times on the line between Leeds and Skipton and once I even did a return journey between Skipton and Carlisle, then onwards to Annan. A journey on the Settle to Carlisle railway in the morning is just amazing
Yes, it is lovely and I plan do a proper video of the line on a nice day. With maybe a walk around Ribblehead too.
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This is a fun little challenge
Thanks! Yes it was. Though it proved tiring at the end.
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That was a brilliant video, what a fantastic idea for a challenge, well done
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This is a really complex challenge... You've got stopping Thameslink service with 9-headcodes and Pendolinos which are 9s as well, meanwhile stopping Southern services from London (skipping the metro stations) are all 1s as well. I genuinely don't think I could do this - all my trains are Southern 1s or Thameslink 9s!
Yes it was really tricky. The challenge is there, but I do wonder if it can be beaten coming up from your part of the country as there are so few 2s
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What a great video... I enjoyed this.
Thank you. I really enjoyed the challenge 👍
16:10 177 km/h, nice! I think the Class 360s that we have at EMR are 177km/h capable, though those trains would not be suitable for this challenge because, being a commuter service out of London, their headcode begins with 1, and not 2.
I have a possible new 2s challenge- so do watch this space!
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I never knew how train headcodes worked, interesting to learn about the 2s!
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Thursday and Friday just gone, i spend traveling around Leeds and i had so much fun, it was my first time on class 185s and the Nova 1s as well, i was super surprised that the 185s are more comfortable than TPEs 802 fleet. The slightly worse ride quality is definitely worth the much better seat quality.
I totally agree 👍
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Nice video! I did a similar trip in 2022 but from Penzance to Thurso in four days. Back then they were running covid timetable so it was possible to get a local from Manchester to Preston an than to Carlisle via the Cumbrian Coast Line all using “Twos”. The only two places where I had to bend the rule were from Carlisle to Kilmarnock where I took an express but stopped at all stations, and from Stirling to Inverness where I skipped a few stops in order to get my final train to Thurso. Glad to see someone also doing this kind of challenge♥!
Thanks. I'm also glad to hear that someone else is daft enough to do this kind of thing. Incidentally I rode the Far North line to Thurso and Wick last week, so that trip will be on the channel soon.
Thanks for watching and sharing your memories of your trip 👍
Very interesting video, I'm quite surprised everything worked to time! I wouldn't have guessed you can reach Scotland from Devon in one day on class 2s. Wonderful video, thank you!
I thought it was impossible but... I stand corrected.
It was a lucky run. I had some cheat trains in Lancs and Yorks in case the 2s got cancelled or delayed. In the end I didn't need them!
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Your best work yet I reckon but it must have been exhausting by the end! I will definitely try and beat that next Spring/Summer when time and funds allow.
Please do accept and maybe even beat my score. The challenge is there to be beaten!
Thank you for the kind words. It was exhausting. The words I recorded when I arrived into Dumfries were the stammering waffles of a very tired man... hence the second take the following morning 😉
First time I've been on your channel. I enjoyed the concept, and the journey, and your casually presented commentary. I'm a seventy six years
young train buff in Queensland, Australia, and simply love train videos from around the world. Especially from the UK however as that is the
birthplace of rail travel. As well as the birthplace of cricket, football, and Devonshire Teas. (chortle) I'm now a subscriber.
Thank you so much for the kind words. I'm pleased you enjoyed the video, so do please dip into the back catalogue too as there's lots more to choose from!
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You went past my local station, Skipton!
And it was all too brief... so i will be back!
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Great travelog video Johnny! Being a southwesterner myself and travelling all over England and Wales for work I've travelled many of these routes but never on "local" 2 trains. Impressive work sir!
Like you I had travelled many of these lines, but wizzed through on express. It was a nice change to take the slow train and take in the intermediate stations.
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What a great challenge and as always a fabulous watch! I love all the info you provide.
Thanks Tim. It was a long day and an even longer edit!
Best wises to you and Mrs Travels ❤️
Well down. A good challenge. I too like the 185 units, far better than 1the 187.
Thank you, very kind of you. The 185s were a very pleasant surprise.
Best wishes 👍
John, another really well put together video. You made the challenging journey really interesting and informative. Thank you. I'm looking forward to the next video.
Very nice of you to say so. Thank you for watching 👍
Some suburban services on the Southern area come off of branches where they stop all stations then run fast to London but are listed as class 1, other longer distance semi-fasts with less stops can be class 2
Then maybe there's a route up round London on 2s?
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@@JohnnyHooverTravels2M99 takes you from Selhurst to Hemel Hempstead via Shepherds Bush, Willesden Junction, and Watford Junction
@@memediatek I'll keep that one in mind... 👍
This was a clever idea and a great video! It is so nice to experience every-day train travel on smaller trains (and the lovely countryside and charming stations you went through) rather than express services. Those local lines seem to provide a needed service even if there isn’t always lot of customers.
Thank you. And yes, I was very pleased the way the challenge forced me to see some things I would have missed on the fast train.
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Sounds like a massive challenge. Or experience to ride on local trains across the UK. Awesome.
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Adding this to my favorites. Thanks for uploading, I like these sorts of challenge videos where you try and see what you can do using certain restrictions etc.
I wonder if you'd have changed for the delayed train and therefore got into Manchester earlier, would you have made any improvement? As it seemed like you were very time limited once you'd crossed the border into Scotland, and the lack of trains late at night were what stopped you from getting further (e.g. into Glasgow, etc).
Also, this is the sort of thing I'd love to do, but sadly not possible where I live. At my local EMR station, the only trains are 1-headcoded and not 2s.
Thanks for all that. You are right that the quick change at Stoke would not have helped the final destination, but it would have avoided some tight connections, that in this occasion i managed to make anyway! That Leeds to Carlisle didn't offer many other options...
Well done, that man--really enjoyed that trip on Mon Oct 23rd in NZ :-) I compliment you on the sharp quality of the images and the fact that you did not make you narration something of a speed-listening test, as some otherwise interesting speakers do.
The farthest north I've been is on ...Aug 18th 2016, Scotrail from Cupar to Dundee... and farthest west,, Bristol Temple Meads, from Yeovil.
Thank you. Good feedback to know the speaking pace was about right 👍
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johny the amount of hard work you putting i wish u best and may you have lot of subscribers and views
Thank you, that is very nice of you to say. Thank you for watching these daft videos 😉. 👍
Excellent video, I really enjoyed that. It was a nice change to see train travel at a more sedate pace and stations that don't often appear in travel vlogs.
Actually that's how it felt doing it too. A bit of slow travel every now and again isn't such a bad thing.
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Fantastic video. So glad you went through Skipton as I now live there. I love doing the Settle to Carlisle line it’s got some breathtaking scenery but you obviously need to do it in the day time haha 😂.
Yes. I just couldn't fit it in as I returned home, but I will do it. With a break to walk under the viaduct at Ribblehead i reckon too
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Well done Johnny, another great video ! :)
@@andywillis2650 thanks Andy! That one was a long day! 😀
New to your channel, this was a great idea for a video. The "New Model Army" reference convinced me to hit the subscribe button. Very Jago Hazzard-esque!
I’ve also done the "Galton Bridge Shuffle", in my case in order to get to Bordesley for a football match.
Haha! I do like to slip a few like that in here and there... you might like this one...
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Great video! Very interesting 👍
Thank you 🙂
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Knew you’d be aiming for the Dumfries (or Glasgow) ScotRail stopper. Amazing!!! Would love to contrast what you paid for the stopping trains and the Ranger ticket, though, with a comparable into city faire. Thanks for the great content.
Thanks! I do say at the very end what I would have paid if I'd just walk d up at Exmouth and bought a ticket to Dumfries. It would have been a little more, but A LOT quicker!
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@@JohnnyHooverTravels I’ve always wondered how far it would be possible to get in a day starting from either Penzance or Thurso. Maybe Thurso - penzance would be too simple, with the longest XC.
As for the costing, I must’ve missed this bit. Thank you for letting me know.
@@matthewsmatters I think Geoff Marshall has a video where they go from Lands End to John o Groats on busses and trains on the longest day and they do complete the whole thing!
What an absolutely wonderful journey, I’m so glad I found this video (& channel), this has made my day. Thank you, I really really enjoyed 😊
Thank you so much for finding me. Yes, there's lots more on the channel as I'll soon be hitting 100 uploads so do dip in!
In the meantime, thanks for loving this one. Comments like this keep me going to making another. 👍
@@JohnnyHooverTravels Well, with 100 uploads, a fresh cuppa, and an extra hour in bed this morning, there’s no better time to start watching 😆 Thank you
BTW when changing trains at manchester picadilly use the overbridge to avoid tangling with ticket barriers.
Ah yes. Very good shout. I'd forgotten that, which is especially dumb as some of my vids have shots taken from that very bridge! Doh!
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Great video and good to see you gave the correct pronunciation of Slaithwaite 😂
@@andygarnett5918 thanks! And thanks too for watching 👍
Hiya, new to channel and love these kind of videos (that's +1 subscriber haha), however your trudge through the Black country seemed a bit unnecessary. Did you ever consider taking the 0644 train all the way through to Cardiff, then on to a TfW service (albeit probably 150) to Manchester Piccadilly from there? By my calculations it would've arrived 90 minutes than from your planned route, according to todays timetable on RTT.
Firstly thanks for the kind comment and for watching the video.
I'm not sure about the south Wales to Manchester services? Are they not all coded as "1"s?
@@JohnnyHooverTravels That may be true, the poor quality of service and the use of 2-car 150s in my mind makes it a ‘local’ service. I double checked on RTT and somehow i completely overlooked that. After all it is the theme of the video! Was Exmouth the ideal starting point in terms of headcodes or geographically a good place start? Either way it would be nice to explore other start (and theoretical end) locations i.e in Kent, where i would like think there are more more frequent services that are classed as local trains.
@@maqueexxtv7241 i started at Exmouth because i live close by and I think it is possibly the best place to start. Though yes, I invite everyone to see if there is a better start point
What a thoughely enjoyable video.
Thank you so much for saying so, and thank you for watching 👍
I always prefer taking the train on the east coast it is way more beautiful and scenic in my opinion. The borders are lovely up near Berwick
Yes it's a lovely run. But sadly no way up on 2s. But I've been that way on the channel before and no doubt will do so again.
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That was excellent. Well done.
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Thank you for sharing this amazing video,
Thanks! It was a long hard day for sure!
This looks great! Just wondering though,are you looking at heading north in the shortest route posable or are you prepared to take diversions to the east & west as long as the end destination is north of your starting point? If you are then the one day ranger tickets might be to your liking.
The overall distance travelled was not a limitation. The rule was just taking trains coded 2. Hence there were enforced wiggles - but they were fun!
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Brilliant video with some stunning scenery!!
Such a complex challenge with lots of planning involved. If you had changed onto the train that was running late and would have got you into Manchester earlier, would you have got any further than Dumfries.
Can I ask what the logo is on your coat and hat please.
Hope all is well, take care and hope you have a great weekend.
I'm not sure it would have got me further, because of the Leeds-Carlisle train. But I would have definitely had less concerns about any delays getting to Leeds!
The logo is Exeter Falcons flag American football 🏈 . They are the team I play for!
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Great video, great photography
@@davidmatthews7876 thanks David. Much appreciated. Thanks too for watching 👍
Great video. As a canalophile I was fascinated with the number of navigations you crossed or travelled alongside.
Also I'm planning some bus trips with my new oldiwonks bus pass. I'll look at how far I could replicate your trip using local buses as expressed / coaches etc don't accept passes. Thrilled to see @travelling_turtle commenting. You two guys are both inspirational!
I know what you mean about the canals. As I passed through those industrial heartlands there were so many! My wife and I love walking the canals. Both rural and urban ones give you such a different view and, of course, they are pretty flat!
...and shhh, don't mention it to anyone but I was pleased the turtle 🐢 saw fit to comment- obvs he was a bit of an inspiration for this challenge 😉
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Wow, that was some journey! You must have a lot of stamina. A great idea though.
Thanks! The tank was empty at Dumfries though...
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Impressived how far you could get
I didn’t expect that you could reach Scotland
Interesting to see how the landscape changed and you should make a video of the shuttle in Stourbridge junction
Yes it was interesting to see the country slowly changing. Also it was interesting to here the different voices as you moved north.
Best wishes 👍
Oh... Stourbridge does sound like one that would be a monday bonus!
Great video, great trip! Surprised by the cost, too. Nice to see my local station mentioned in dispatches (Damn and Cursley.)
Small point; the last train looked suspiciously like a 150, not a 156 as in caption.
Second small point; Gloucester’s platforms are continuous (following without a break) not contiguous (sharing a common border - although I suppose they do that too.)
It was def a 156 - I just double checked a photo I took of it. It was 156 456.
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You’re right, of course. My error. 156-456, clearly visible in final train shot. And, again of course, you travelled on it. I ought to watch when I’m awake. Excellent video, mind.
The train you got from Wolverhampton to Crewe via Stoke is now a Stafford to Crewe via Stoke service.
@@donovanemery597 good job i did it when i could. But i suppose timetables are ever changing, so there may be another chance in the future (maybe a different route!)
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@@JohnnyHooverTravels it had changed by mid-December last year
This truly was a challenge. We wondered if you’d get to Scotland! Some really nice little stations along the way. I’m always impressed by the station gardens. A random question for you as a public transit expert: is it possible to enjoy a Devon and Cornwall holiday just using trains and buses rather than renting a car?
I am not an expert but I would say "yes". Especially if you use Google Maps to plan your route in advance. There are quite a few train and bus options. If you stay at Rail Holiday in St Germans they will give you a discount for arriving by train.
Most definitely yes! Especially if you are reasonably fit so can manage the walk to/from the station. There's some cracking little bus rides and if you go in summer they can be open top too.
There are also ranger tickets on both that can save you money and encourage you to "go the extra mile"
Excellent news. Saving for this next holiday has started! Thanks! @@JohnnyHooverTravels
@@sandiandgregh come back anytime with specific questions when you have more firm plans.
Thanks so much. We really appreciate the offer. :) @@JohnnyHooverTravels
Great video , really enjoyed that and quite an accomplishment
Thank you. It did feel that way when I arrived into Dumfries after 16 hours!
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I've really enjoyed your journey 😊 well done 👏
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Thank you…..glad you filmed it
You are most welcome. I'm glad you watched it! 👍
Well done 👏👏👏 I enjoyed your journey 👍
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Bravo sir, what a great challenge. I'm not a rail enthusiast by any means but I like the look of staying for a couple of days in one of the station cottages at Ribblehead and doing the Settle to Carlisle line that way. Have you ever done that?
Haha! Funny you say that, but I noticed the converted station buildings on the way and I was also thinking a weekend in one would be fun!
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Ha, does it always rain on your movies? I’m 4 minutes in and it’s looking pretty damp. This is the third I’ve watched after I chanced upon your Cadiz Bay Tranvía film. The other was Ribblehead with dog and friend. Great work, thanks.
Thanks you that's kind of you to say. I'm so pleased you found the channel and i hope you enjoy watching some of the sunnier videos. Here's a good sunny one!
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Really enjoyed that video, impressive how far you can get. Reminds me of a similar(ish) trip I did a few years back - Penzance to Wick using 15x Sprinter units only. Did it in just over four days, I think it is still possible but may take a lot longer.
Thank you. Yes, I thought I might get more of them on my trip too. But the 158 to Carlisle was fine. So pleased i made it to Leeds.
Great video and challenge really enjoyed it
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27:10 its called the settle-carlisle railway, not the leeds-carlisle route and alco you very rarely see a cancelattion on this route
Pedantically, the route I was following was from Leeds to Carlisle and, as you say, much of it was on the Settle & Carlisle railway. But the S&C only starts just south of Settle at Settle junction, so to call the whole journey as being on the S&C would be incorrect.
Anyway, enough of splitting hairs... I'd just like to thank you for watching, because if you got as far as 27:10, then you have pretty much watched it all. So for that, I'm very grateful. Do check out other trips on the channel and feel free to feedback on them too. Best wishes for 2024 👍
I done some checking and I reckon if you changed at Worcester Shrub Hill not Forgate Street, you could have got to Stirling at 00:28 so still within your 24 hour period!
Oh. Sounds very interesting. I shall remember that. I reckon I may try to beat it in 2024!
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@@JohnnyHooverTravels also have to use the direct Stoke to Manchester service as well
Wow, I was staring at headcodes for a good 15 minutes before I noticed the one 2 code from Dumfries to Glasgow. From that, if you can get across Glasgow to Queen St. quickly enough to make the 2322 Alloa train (40+ mins, so trivial if you're allowed to walk it), you can change at Stirling for the Dunblane train (from Edinburgh), for an extra few ticks North. However, it looks like it doesn't quite work. You miss it by a minute or two if you transfer via Glasgow low-level trains. Unless you're happy to take the Subway from Partick to Queen St., which almost seems fine, but the subway station is technically Buchannan St. not Queen St., and you have to cross about 10m of outside pavement between the entrances.
@@_purble haha that might work, but it foes, maybe break a rule. I shall try a rerun next year, and we'll see if those services are on the timetables
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That sounds like a fun way to Travel I could do that from Starcross
Yeah, go on and give it a try! And do let me know how you get on!
thanks for watching and good luck! 👍
Really good video. In theory you could do penzance to wick on just stoppers altho I believe you could only go via Carlisle as i dont believe there is any class 2 trains further then Newcastle towards Scotland.
Haha. Theory and practice are different things though. I don't think there is any way of doing it in a day.
But thanks for watching! 👍
Great fun, thank you
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Amazing video!
Why thank you, your lordship! Much appreciated and thanks for watching 👍
Hope they had the authority to have that many signs in Handforth ;)
They do indeed 👍🏻. They have signs in the style of lots of different rail systems around the world.
@@katrinabryce Cool. great to know. It was an interesting thing to see on what was, quite a long day! 👍
Great video, love to try something like this, unfortunately it would take a 40 mile drive before I could even catch a train
Thanks. Pleased you enjoyed it. Between you and me, I'm recording a follow up next week... so look out for that one coming soon!
Best wishes to you 👍
Amazing journey, amazing stamina. To try and beat it, are the Far North trains out of Glasgow QS Class 2? As I live just outside Nottingham I'm thinking Northern to Leeds, the S&C and the G&SW to Glasgow and onwards.
That is a possibility. Basically start further north, but get further north than i did to beat my latitude gain.
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I think you could probably get further north if you started more centrally than Devon. Maybe in London? Get an earlier train to Carlisle and then get the Carlisle - Glasgow train. Plenty of routes north from Glasgow, depending on what time you arrive.
Nice idea. But its the headcodes that could mess you up. I waited for 50min at Wolverhampton for a "2". Long waits can eat up the time.
Mind you 2Y09 leaves Euston for Birmingham at 05:35 and gets you in at 08:14, so that is a pretty good gain to start you off... I'll leave you to work out the rest!
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an amazing, but long trip
Yes, i would agree having done it!
Btw, "All By Twos - Go East" will be released in July, so watch out for that!
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On the east side of England the most northerly terminus of local trains is Chathill
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Doesn't look like the times are very good for getting there at the end of a day's journey. However, if you were doing this in the reverse direction, the 7:08 Chathill to Carlisle could be a place to start. It's a rather later start than this journey, but I would guess that the local trains continue later into the evening down south than in rural Northumberland/Scottish Borders, so you can probably finish later too. Whether that works out to a longer overall journey, I haven't tried to work out.
@@JohnnyHooverTravels Hi. Sorry for the late reply too.
The service to Chathill seems as tho it maybe a Parlimentory service but it is daily and according to the latest Northern Rail time tables the times from Newcastle (Upon Tyne) Central are as follows for Tuesday 7 November BUT this is daily ftr
Depart Newcastle 07:08
Arrive Chathill 08:23
or
Depart Newcastle 19:15
Arrive in Chathill 20:14
So unless you can get to Newcastle for 19:15 then you next most northerly on the east side of the country would be Morpeth and that has a more frequent service.
Using only Northern rail according to the app, the first service leaves Newcastle at 08 12, then at these times:
09:57, 10:57, 11,57, 12:57, 13:57 then 14:59, 16:05, 17:07, 17:57, 18:17, 19:08, 20:19, 21:21 and lastly 22:24 all departing from Newcastle and ALL Northern Rail.
Good luck with you next journey and thanks for a really interesting video.
Safe travels.
@@smogmonster1876 Thank you so much for that! As I've said elsewhere, I'll probably see if I can beat the original, but maybe not until at least May next year when the days are longer. 👍
Excellent video! I was thinking Margate north, avoiding London?
Oh that's a possibility. Show me the train times though!
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I like the idea but you should have done it in June when it doesn’t really get dark in the north or Scotland
That's a very fair comment. And I would have liked to. But I had personal reasons why I had to do it so late in the summer. If I try a different route one day, I will endeavour to do it all in the light.
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That was a very interesting video, thank you! It’s inspired me to look into something similar albeit from London, given that I am a Londoner. I’ve managed to find a route to get me from London (Liverpool Street, my most convenient London terminus) to Glasgow (Central). I will have a look into whether getting to Edinburgh is possible, and a route from (London) Liverpool Street to Liverpool Lime Street.
Yes, get out there and enjoy some travels!
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Enjoyed your video and the challenge. How can you find out the headcode of trains. I would like to have a go at this .But not starting in Exmouth!!
If you go onto Real Time Trains and view a train route in "detailed" view and then look at "train information" it quotes the train headcode.
Also, there are other views in RTT (arrival/departures from a station) that often quote the headcode.
Please do try a route from a different station and see if you can gain more latitude, or if not, find a fun route that was different to mine... and please let me know how you got on!
thanks so much for watching and commenting and "good luck" 👍
Wednesday 1st November, 23.41
Greetings from your newest subscriber! That was fascinating. Lots of places that I've been through in the distant past. Earliest were Stone, Stalybridge and Stafford, en route to college in 1968.
What do you use for journey planning? At the moment my go-to is Trainline, but I'm looking at doing a 7-Day GB Rail Pass holiday in the Spring and I'm going to need something more sophisticated if I'm going to get the best out of my investment. (First Class for flexibility, and about £580 with my railcard discount.)
Welcome on board!
I use RealTimeTrains, which takes feeds from, well, the real time rail data. Their detailed views quote headcodes and will also give you a good idea what type of train is used for the journey. Once the trip is rostered to a particular train set you even know the exact unit number on the service! (I would have loved that in my trainspotting days).
I still use apps like trainline for quick planning. RTT knows more, and sooner eg RTT will display a platform number ahead of the station board display- dead handy to beat the crowds at places like Paddington and Euston.
Thanks again for watching and I hope you have a great time crisscrossing the UK 👍
Great video. Do you mind if i ask if Mr Hoover is your real name ? I was wondering due to you location where you once a fan of the English Electric Class 50s that used to work in the Western region?
Haha! No it isn't because of the Class 50 Hoovers. I was in a punk tribute band and we all had surnames of white goods manufacturers. Follow this and it may even answer the other question!
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Well Done JH GT journey etc.
Thanks! And thanks for watching it 👍
Great video, but can you do it the other way and make it back home again. Really reasonably priced as well.
Haha yes! So many options!
I'm sure I will revisit this idea one day.
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Shame this wouldn't work anymore (that slow LM service is now a Stafford-Crewe shuttle)
You could have potentially gone via LAN and BIF but I know north of Millom it finishes very early
I think north of Dumfries they're given 1L** codes
Thanks for that. Looks like it could be tricky to improve on then.
Thanks also for watching 👍
@@JohnnyHooverTravels No bother. 👍
The last train from Dumfries to Glasgow Central has the headcode 2A15
@@mrender666 True . But would there be a Carlisle -Dumfries local that connects?
@@mrender666 I'm always on the lookout to see if i can do this "again but better!" Got some similar challenges in mind for when the nights get lighter 👍
I was surprised by tpe being in this, i thought you'd have to go from Manchester to barrow then barrow to Carlisle
Couldn't get past Preston. The only 2s North from Preston go to Blackpool, which was no good to me. Only corridor North I found was Leeds-Carlisle, hence the TPE hop over the pennines.
It was tiring, but a fun challenge. I may try to beat it next year!
Thanks for watching 👍
@@JohnnyHooverTravels it's always going to end up in Carlisle at least, sadly there aren't many local trains going through north Yorkshire or Northumberland at all due to how rural they are.
Before watching the video:
2T05 Topsham 6:01 - :18 Exeter St David's
2U06 6:44 - 8:35 Filton Abbeywood
2E53 8:47 - 10:15 Worcester Shrub Hill
2D47 10:47 - 11:36 Smethwick Galton Bridge
2W22 11:50 - 12:07 Wolverhampton
2J16 12:58 - 13:47 Shrewsbury
2K59 14:19 - 15:10 Crewe
2A80 15:16 - 16:20 Mauldeth Road
2F27 16:45 - 17:05 Eccles
2V92 17:16 - 17:25 Manchester Victoria
2I23 17:36 - 19:04 Leeds
2H29 19:49 - 21:08 Ribblehead
@@ccityplanner1217 close. But no cigar...
Thanks for watching (and getting into the guessing game) 👍
@@JohnnyHooverTravels : This was using Realtime Trains as I wrote the comment. It seems the trains from Manchester Piccadilly to Huddersfield have had their headcodes changed & now begin with a 1.
@@ccityplanner1217 ah. So pleased i did it when i could then!
I got to Murmansk. Had to stop there as I forgot to bring a coat.
nice one, just wondered if you could of gone via barrow?
Oh maybe. But I don't think so. I will check when I get home!
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@@JohnnyHooverTravels the only issue i have with limited looking is that it might only be a TPE class 1 service. to Barrow, but surly there is a northern service
Can we also start at any station as I think going a Kent or that area will get you in to Carlisle ealier and then it will get you more services out to Glasgow’s stations then to Edinburgh and better north services lastly is the Caledonian sleeper a 1 or 2 as it technically starts on the same day, and when it splits it’s new head coad maybe a 2
Also only Yorks that are 2 effectively only go south Sheffield leeds Bridlington scarbados or hull. Newcastle again don’t do 2 to Scotland unless it’s boarder line. So has to be leeds. Going other way my find some odd early morning commuters that are 2 unlike the south
Sure thing. Start where you like!
@@JohnnyHooverTravels as I bet starting in a more vomit or area like Kent may work but then crossing skirting london mybe a prob. It really has to leave uk via Carlisle as all rest like the tpexpress newc to Scotland is a 1. If you can get to Scotland earlier then you get slightly higher. On a type 1 v 2 if a train stops at all stations and there is no faster train ie york
To Scarborough would that E a 1 as rather than a 2 so some what should be 2 maybe be counted as a 1
I would like to try see someone attempt this in the east of England. 😂
Haha! Yes, it would be tricky!
Thanks for watching 👍
My daughter and son in law live in Mossley and we've always pronounced it Moss-ley. A hard 's' usually is signified with a double 'ss' whereas a single 's' usually gives a 'zed' sound in British English. The USA do is different so Press-ton (phonetic spelling) would be 'Prez-ton.' This is strange to me,but we aren't originally from the area.
I travel to the Czech Republic regularly and have a smattering of Czech and I must say that although the language "looks" hard, words are peppered with accents that tell you pretty much exactly how to say it. Meanwhile in English there are no accents and no rules (that aren't broken) and we end up not knowing how things are pronounced!
I specifically said "Moz-ley" in this video, because someone else commented on a previous video when I said "Moss-ley" that it was not pronounced that way!
Another friend was telling me that locally there were complaints that the railway operator had not pronounced some Yorkshire names correctly in their automated announcements too. One of the pitfalls of being a travel youtuber I suppose...
Thanks for watching and I hope that didn't spoil it too much for you 👍
There is often difficulty in distinguishing between the local pronunciation of a place name and the local accent. In Manchester (later Stockport) there used to be a bus manufacturer called Crossley Motors. Most people said Cross-ley, but people with strong Lancashire accents said Crozz-ley. I suspect Mozz-ley is the same. It probably goes with the Lancashire "buzz", as in "Shurrup an' gerron t'buzz!".
Funny. I lived in NYC for 78 years and have always pronounced the name of my state's capital, Albany, with a deep "a": all-bany. [With my Noo Yawk accent, it's probably more like awl-bany.] Now I discover that everyone on UA-cam says it with a broad "a", as in "Albert". Then there's that country, Oll-bania....
We do it to make ourselves crazy.
@@harveywachtel1091Albany is just another term for Scotland or in the Gaelic - Alba. Alba is pronounced Al-Bah in English but Al-ah-bah in the Gaelic. Albany can be pronounced Al-bany or Awl- bany depending on which school you went to.
Believe g w r have a direct service from Exmouth to Cardiff in the evening
Living down here I can safely inform you we have no direct services to Cardiff at any time of the day!
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How much further can you get if you restart from Dumfries? Is it possible to start from Penzance?
Def no to Penzance imho. As the time taken is immense for very little lattitude gain. Again, not sure about restarting.
Maybe smeone could see if you can get more latitude change on a southbound run?
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I presume you looked at the option of going up the East Coast? That would have been my suggestion.
not many local trains north of cambridge
No trains north of York he said. Maybe if you go back across to Newcastle but by that time you are almost at end of service?
@@bus3s Looking at Real Time Trains at for trains departing right now, 3P88 KGX-PBO would be presumably "local"? Then, obviously you will miss these particular examples, but 2K28 PBO-LCN, 2P88 Sheffield, 2N35 Leeds, 2E72 Harrogate, 2C79 York, then I think I am stuck.
@@katrinabryce So still no further than York like Johnny said?
Yeah, there was only 1s going north from York, so under the challenge rules it was therefore a dead end.
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Have you ever been to Hagley and Blakedown? Both are local to me and are in walking distance of each other
Nope. Never been to those stations. Though I have worked on the Hagley Road many years ago!
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Ooh you saved a few Bob there albeit you paid with your time
Yeah. Somehow I don't think you can call it a cheap travel hack. A route only for foolish UA-camrs I reckon!
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How do you know a trains Headcode?
@@PinoyBritish713 you can see them on Real Time Trains.
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I was looking how to do this but via a different route and from Carlisle going down south but its literally impossible. The route I got was incredulously similar to yours
Carlisle-Leeds
Leeds Huddersfield
Huddersfield-Manchester
Manchester-Crewe
Crewe-Birmingham
Birmingham-Smethwick
Smethwick-Worcester
Worcester-Bristol
Bristol-Exeter
Yes, that does seem to be it. Maybe when the timetables change, the challenge can take a different route! could you not get to Exeter in time for the last train to Exmouth? They do run very late.
Thanks for digging into it. 👍
@@JohnnyHooverTravels what I did try when the Litttlehampton line was closed for repairs last week and it was rail replacement buses I got as far as Bedford on the West Coast Main Line but then the Littlehampton Line is back now and they're all 1's
Did you get the fast train back ?
Haha! Next day I was enjoying the delights of the Pendolino for sure! I actually stayed up in the North for a few days.
Thanks for watching 👍
With anybody who do these challenges it would be useful to know the cost and preferable ticketing options.
I say it at the end and it is on screen. It cost me under £100, buying tickets pretty much at the point of travel. At the end i used one day of a 4-day north west ranger ticket as i knew i could use it later to partially get home afterwards (and have a couple of other days mucking around on trains)
Hope that clarifies it. Thank you for watching and raising the question 👍
Hiya! Question - why are Crossrail Elizabeth line services headcoded with a 9? Thanks.
Hmm. Not sure tbh. Sorry.
9 is a special requirement service. Crossrail trains get it because they go into the tunnel. So do Thameslink. I believe it means it gets priority by the signaller
9 means special signalling instructions. It is a reminder to the signaller that the train may need different procedures. Usually used by trains that may disappear briefly because of signalling system changeovers.