This Fly Was Almost BANNED! - YONG SPECIAL/THREAD MIDGE - Fly Tying Tutorial

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  • Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
  • In this fly tying tutorial, Cheech ties the Thread Midge a.k.a Yong Special.
    There are many different names for this fly, but I came to know it through Andy Kim as the Yong Special about 20 years ago. As you will see, we kind of play around with the name of the fly, but regardless of the name, this midge pattern absolutely produces in this color and in many variations. This fly catches so many fish it should be banned.
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  • @waltsnow1762
    @waltsnow1762 Рік тому +4

    Met Andy Kim on the banks of the Green River, didn't know then what I know now! He showed me the fly and how to use it. The next day, my son and I are drifting the A section with Boomer (Trout Flies,Dutch John) and we talked about this guy and his popular midge fly! Boomer and other guides didn't like him. We had a wonderful day on The Green!!!....next day I had just caught and released a nice Rainbow, then a very nice Brown, and Boomer drifts by , I yell at him '' I just released a nice Rainbow and Brown on a Yong Special! ''......he yells back '' didn't count '' we waved at each other!

  • @vernonbice732
    @vernonbice732 11 місяців тому

    Didn't see this when it got posted. I'm another convert of the thread fly. I've tied a bunch of the small ones for my trips to the San Juan, but, I also tie them in larger sizes for lakes and ponds. On 16 jig hooks with beads I will even put a tail (mallard duck) or collar (peacock or ostrich) on them. FWIW, most of my patterns I tie with thread bodies.
    I was also taught to use Coates and Clark thread, but, I now use silk thread (Gutermann sewing thread or embroidery floss). The JuJuBee is another variant I like. Andy said he uses a different material now but I don't know what it is.
    Yep, Andy got tired of the folks snagging at the river. Many intentional. Pegging especially.

  • @1959TheBear
    @1959TheBear Рік тому +1

    Good stuff, did a internship on the Juan. I chased this fly for years and its history. I sorted core samples. One table spoon 3 thousand larva!! and 40 hours so eye strain.

  • @MainelyFlies
    @MainelyFlies Рік тому +11

    So you joined the 'banned' wagon! 😂 great tie as always simple midges are hard to beat

    • @flyfishingtheozarks
      @flyfishingtheozarks Рік тому +4

      It's like you guys are a "Banned of Brothers."

    • @MainelyFlies
      @MainelyFlies Рік тому +1

      @@flyfishingtheozarks haha! Join the dark side, Brian

    • @FlyFishFood
      @FlyFishFood  Рік тому +1

      We said it once. It was enough 😬😬

  • @jerryrichards6290
    @jerryrichards6290 Рік тому +6

    ty for giving Andy Kim credit for inventing this fly

  • @Taylor_in_Southern_Oregon
    @Taylor_in_Southern_Oregon Рік тому +12

    Love the vids Cheech, but c'mon. Please get off the bandwagon of ppl claiming this or that fly got banned, it's pure bs and you know it. Banned by who? Where? Pure unadulterated bs, please stop that. But definitely keep putting out vids, you're doing good work.

    • @FlyFishFood
      @FlyFishFood  Рік тому +5

      Nailed it. Back about 20 years ago there were talks of flies being so good they were banned. The Yong Special was always talked about in those circles and it would make me laugh. In no way shape or form was it almost banned… but some people thought it would be.

    • @Taylor_in_Southern_Oregon
      @Taylor_in_Southern_Oregon Рік тому +4

      @@FlyFishFood you guys totally rock. Currently the best fly tying vids on the internet

    • @cuttlefishpie3731
      @cuttlefishpie3731 Рік тому

      Banned from ABBA taking them ontour in case they got embeded in their tight fitting spandex pants

  • @ssegura50
    @ssegura50 Рік тому +1

    If you want to save bulk on the collar ditch the whip finish on the body thread and tie in your collar thread then tie off the body thread.

  • @flytyer2368
    @flytyer2368 Рік тому +1

    The crack about digital watches was pretty funny. Also, the copper color inside the glass bead is actually called the/a ‘liner’ or ‘lining’. The only issue I have is why would you use pure silk? Is awfully expensive compared to some of the other materials design to create underbodies. They are (depending on the manufacturer) labelled as “underbody” or “stomach”. They are great for building underbody bulk and would be excellent for this type of fly. Using pure silk as the full dress boys falling off their chairs right now….

    • @gregschick12
      @gregschick12 Рік тому

      I first learned of this fly about 20 years ago when we fished the San Juan with Andy Kim as our guide. Andy said that when he "invented" the fly he specifically used Coates & Clark threads for it. When the thread was twisted to cord it up it gave the segmented look that he wanted. Lots of new threads have hit the market since then, but his original scheme still works!! I don't know who added the glass bead to the pattern, but we know that works with other midge patterns, so it makes some sense.

    • @FlyFishFood
      @FlyFishFood  Рік тому +1

      May the boys fall off their chairs!

  • @GeorgeSemel
    @GeorgeSemel Рік тому +1

    Gee's with that had you look like some sort of revolutionary. As for the fly, that is the kind of fly I like, quick and cheap to tie.

  • @HalfInsaneOutdoorGuy
    @HalfInsaneOutdoorGuy Рік тому +2

    I'm beginning to really like semperfli threads =)

  • @regkane-Pluvis
    @regkane-Pluvis Рік тому

    Love your no BS approach.. Reg

  • @rubinconineski526
    @rubinconineski526 Рік тому +1

    It is very good.
    Thank you.

  • @mikekuczynski1552
    @mikekuczynski1552 Рік тому +4

    Thanks god you didn’t say the name because you know Andy is at the ESPN hole watching this :-)

  • @Subaruuu12
    @Subaruuu12 Рік тому +1

    its like a mercury buckskin, this thing would slay in later spring and summer when Caddis are about.

  • @streamsidedrifter
    @streamsidedrifter Рік тому +1

    Nice looking fly! Simple and effective does the trick!

  • @1959TheBear
    @1959TheBear Рік тому

    Wigwam club tried to ban a fly called Yellow Canary. Bet you cant find that one. It is a awesome streamer for the Kanloops that came out of Wigwam's hatchery ponds.

  • @CBL138
    @CBL138 6 місяців тому

    Like that patch on your hat..got any for sale? Video was great too. Lol😂

  • @cpayne1757
    @cpayne1757 11 місяців тому

    I dig ur purple vise. Who makes it...? Thx!

  • @mattp6355
    @mattp6355 Рік тому +4

    How can a fly be banned who's saying you can't use it???

  • @bruceacphoto5240
    @bruceacphoto5240 9 місяців тому

    Thx for bead threading tip🍻

  • @gldead3741
    @gldead3741 Рік тому +6

    Cheech me to Tye a fly !

  • @genie1247
    @genie1247 Рік тому +1

    Andy Kim …… He is everywhere!

    • @gregschick12
      @gregschick12 Рік тому

      Naw, that doesn't seem right.... He told us how to tie it almost 20 years ago!

  • @bonefish935
    @bonefish935 5 місяців тому

    nice fly buddy, but next time you record a video though, remember to wear a light-colored shirt. Dark on dark doesn't look good ;)

  • @bulgariandreamer
    @bulgariandreamer Рік тому +2

    I can't see it. Why so far???

  • @oldsmugglerflyfishing
    @oldsmugglerflyfishing Рік тому

    Nice one!

  • @guyontheflyflyfishing7778
    @guyontheflyflyfishing7778 6 місяців тому

    Andy Kim won't let ANYONE forget that he invented the Yong Special either - in fact, I am pretty sure he's tried to convince people he invented the San Juan River...

    • @RazorCityDen
      @RazorCityDen 6 місяців тому

      I heard he actually invented the trout 🙂

  • @wvlongshooter3912
    @wvlongshooter3912 Рік тому +5

    It’s so funny how the effective flies get banned or almost banned. I tell ya, cry babies in a sport can ruin it or at least put a dark mark on it. Ole well, thanks for the tie, I really appreciate it!!!

  • @markgotschall2914
    @markgotschall2914 10 місяців тому

    Killer in grey around Colorado.

  • @scottnock5241
    @scottnock5241 Рік тому

    Oh boy!!!

  • @horsefly5728
    @horsefly5728 Рік тому

    It looks like a Champion spark plug 😀

  • @moscaman559
    @moscaman559 Рік тому

    Simple but deadly!

  • @glenndotter5065
    @glenndotter5065 Рік тому +4

    Been fishing Yong Specials for years. Who wanted to ban it? How absurd!

  • @broay73
    @broay73 Рік тому +3

    Banned by WHO????????WTF????????

    • @Taylor_in_Southern_Oregon
      @Taylor_in_Southern_Oregon Рік тому

      No one. It's a crock of crap

    • @broay73
      @broay73 Рік тому +1

      @@Taylor_in_Southern_Oregon I thought so. Shiny titles to get a couple more views is dishonest.

    • @rickwieclawek5973
      @rickwieclawek5973 Рік тому

      The world is full of them or not, just depends on your point of view. I was dishonest once but I was mistaken.😅

  • @seanfalconer7182
    @seanfalconer7182 Рік тому

    It's called a what???

  • @scottstubberud1137
    @scottstubberud1137 Рік тому +3

    I’ve watched a few videos of yours where you say the flies were nearly banned. By who and how would that be possible? Are you talking tournament fishing? Or just BS? Seems a bit of a gimmick that is unnecessary to attract views. That aside your fly tying skills are excellent and well explained. I must say that the “banned” thing in the title actually almost made me not watch it. Seeing yong special is what grabbed my eye. That is what I clicked for. That being said I have tied and fished the yong special for years on the San Juan and for me a true yong does not have a bead. Just a small black head on a threaded body. Hugely effective without a bead but I’m not opposed to the bead but I would name it the beaded yong or better yet something totally different. BTW I have caught 3 fish of a lifetime of over 30” and 15 lbs plus at the Texas hole. All browns of course. One of those was on an olive yong! Absolute truth. I have photos. So to say that I love the yong would be an understatement. I met Andy Kim (who claims to have come up with the yong special) early in my fly fishing career and he turned me on to them and I’m glad he did. Often he and I will be the last guys to leave the river for the parking lot often using head lamps to gear down at rivers edge. But that is when the hogs come out to play!! All three of my huge toads came as the sun was setting behind the bluffs. What I call the bewitching hour! Party on dudes!!

  • @goyslop4289
    @goyslop4289 Рік тому

    Bass fisherman that tried fly fishing up in shambles.

  • @fish-n-riffs
    @fish-n-riffs Рік тому

    Wait, I’m not the only one spilling beads??

  • @Flyordie11300
    @Flyordie11300 8 місяців тому +1

    Andy Kim....Meh

  • @themazamen
    @themazamen Рік тому

    Who knew that FFF would sink so low that it would resort to click-bait. And you mock those who use tenkara?

    • @FlyFishFood
      @FlyFishFood  Рік тому

      We love tenkara

    • @themazamen
      @themazamen Рік тому

      Looking forward to the Kebari playlist on the channel.

  • @unionse7en
    @unionse7en Рік тому +1

    don't forget to NOT snag fish with this ;-)

    • @FlyFishFood
      @FlyFishFood  Рік тому +2

      If you can purposely snag a fish on a size 20 fly I’ll buy you a big gulp.

    • @unionse7en
      @unionse7en Рік тому

      @@FlyFishFood haha , u prolly know ia was joking BC the author of this fly has a terrible time with snaggers on his local beats

    • @Jon626
      @Jon626 Рік тому

      ​@@FlyFishFood he'd probably prefer dorritios hand smashed by lance egan himself.

  • @skiphughes7705
    @skiphughes7705 Рік тому

    So another youtube liar I see

    • @FlyFishFood
      @FlyFishFood  Рік тому

      No doubt. Let’s get rid of UA-cam liars. Can’t stand em.

    • @skiphughes7705
      @skiphughes7705 Рік тому

      ​@@FlyFishFood ok I blocked you

    • @FlyFishFood
      @FlyFishFood  Рік тому +1

      Yet here we are.

  • @kenallen5161
    @kenallen5161 Рік тому +1

    I see all these flies that were ALMOST BANNED!?? BANNED BY WHO!?? LOL !

  • @markinnis8404
    @markinnis8404 9 місяців тому

    Or you can grab your hook with your hackle pliers and just scoop the hook into the beads and a bead will be on your hook everytime. Just saying!😂😂