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  • Pastor Ghazala Shafique comes on The Pakistan Experience for a Truthful and Heartbreaking Podcast on the lives of Christians in Pakistan after the Jarawala Incident. On this deep dive podcast, we discuss the persecution of the Christian Community, Everyday Racism and Hatred,
    The Role of the State, Zehn Saazi, and False Accusations.
    Ghalaza Shafique has a Masters in Economics, a Masters in Divinity, Founding member of the Minority March and a prominent Human Rights Activist.
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    The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications.
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    Chapters:
    0:00 Introduction
    2:30 Rawalpindi Incident
    5:30 Zehn Saazi of Hatred
    11:50 Role of the State and the Police
    17:15 Using derogatory terms against Christians
    24:30 Persecution against the Christian Community
    32:00 Promoting Peace and Institution Building
    37:00 Fixing the Judiciary and a lack of Justice
    45:00 State Narratives
    55:00 Pakistaniyat
    1:01:00 False Accusations and Blasphemy Law
    1:09:30 Jobs and Quotas for Christians
    1:14:00 State does not care about lives of Christians
    1:18:00 Names of Christians in Pakistan
    1:21:00 Audience Questions
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  • @Bhatti_69
    @Bhatti_69 9 місяців тому +112

    She is really brave unlike most people what we call the 'silent majority '

    • @ThePakistanExperience
      @ThePakistanExperience  9 місяців тому +9

      100%

    • @ahaanmisra4892
      @ahaanmisra4892 9 місяців тому +13

      I feel that the channel is braver for bringing such views to the fore!! God bless this channel!!

    • @ThePakistanExperience
      @ThePakistanExperience  9 місяців тому +2

      @@ahaanmisra4892 ❤

    • @SarojEkka-zc3nq
      @SarojEkka-zc3nq 9 місяців тому

      ​@ThePakistanExperience shahzad , writing this in the hope you will understand sooner than later. Please, please, I request all good Muslims to open & read thier holy books & other texts. Kafirs are reading that and they know the root cause. I understand their context could be different but don't you understand people simply follow thier role models. They are doing same what prophet did in hope of jannat. And Kafir know there are maaca & madna quaran versus which are totally different. People don't read all & behave like you. Jahils in all religions follow thinks literally. Don't you get it otherwise who can kill people in masjid. Do you think they are scared of Allah? They think it is what Allah wants. WAKE WAKE WAKE PLEASE....

    • @ThePakistanExperience
      @ThePakistanExperience  8 місяців тому +2

  • @pakistanifacts6725
    @pakistanifacts6725 8 місяців тому +18

    Proud of her for being brave, i am in awe of her as a christian living in a increasingly radicalized society.

  • @BTLTvNews
    @BTLTvNews 8 місяців тому +14

    We as a Christian TV channel (BTLTV) watched this interview of sister Ghazala Shafiq and felt happy that our nation has such a brave woman who can express the pain of the nation. We want to salute our sister because it is very important for the survival of the country and every nation living in this country to reach out to the people and our sister Ghazala Shafiq has bravely told the bitter truth. I wish all the people watching the program could understand the whole truth and know the facts. But at the same time, we want to salute the courage of the host of the program to ask honest questions and to use his right of opinion to hear detailed answers to those questions. It is our prayer that Allah Almighty gives every Pakistani a healthy mind so that he can eliminate prejudices and become a part of the survival of the Pakistani nation and the country of Pakistan. Sincerely BTL TV

    • @pakistanifacts6725
      @pakistanifacts6725 8 місяців тому +2

      As a Pakistani, i am ashamed that we have failed to protect and safeguard the rights of our christian brothers and sisters.

    • @kapilmohansharma6135
      @kapilmohansharma6135 8 місяців тому

      ​@@pakistanifacts6725You need not be ashamed brother, you are doing what you are taught since childhood. And trust me in Pakistan non-muslims and then muslim sects like Shia, Ahmadi, Kadyani etc will be exterminated in couple of years.
      In 1947, non-muslims were 20+ %, now 3 - 4 %. Congrats to all Pakis.

  • @user-vh1wv2fp9t
    @user-vh1wv2fp9t 8 місяців тому +17

    I M a christian woman from India. We christians R much more safe in India. She is a brave lady who fearlessly speaks out her mind. I was speechless to know about the difficulties our Christians brothers & sisters face in Pakistan

    • @abhishektanwar8576
      @abhishektanwar8576 8 місяців тому +1

      You are safe because of peaceful majority who you contstantly abuse

    • @georgedheeraj
      @georgedheeraj 5 місяців тому

      ​@@abhishektanwar8576lol what

    • @davidemmyg
      @davidemmyg 2 місяці тому

      Does every Christian do that or is that a stereotype that is built up for political reasons?

  • @noumaniqbal1874
    @noumaniqbal1874 9 місяців тому +18

    Thank you Shahzad Bhai for this podcast. I am very happy that someone from our community has been allowed to present unadulterated facts about what we as minorities are feeling and going through. May God bless you and your efforts.

  • @deathslayer5813
    @deathslayer5813 9 місяців тому +61

    I was seriously amazed by the amount of times shehzad had to clarify that "Islam is not the problem".
    That clearly tells you what the actual problem is😂

    • @PRAKASHKUMAR-pl6gj
      @PRAKASHKUMAR-pl6gj 9 місяців тому +11

      100 percent 👍 agreed

    • @Muhammad-Imran.231
      @Muhammad-Imran.231 8 місяців тому

      The problem is Radicalized Pakistanis Muslim not the Islam

    • @PRAKASHKUMAR-pl6gj
      @PRAKASHKUMAR-pl6gj 8 місяців тому +9

      Muslims are not radicalized but islamic from its very begining is radicalized.....Ayan hirsi ali.

    • @kamalshar7204
      @kamalshar7204 8 місяців тому +1

      ​​​@@PRAKASHKUMAR-pl6gj watch the debate between Muhammad hijab and harsi. Hijab ended her career 😂 what about mosques being attacked everyday in india and more than 400 churches in manipur india. india talking about Islam being radical is a paradox 😂

    • @dollartreeshark6786
      @dollartreeshark6786 8 місяців тому +3

      @@syedamariyamzahra2492mmd was among first people using Islam to raid caravans, loot and rape women. The Meccans only banished mmd from the city for apostasy, whereas cruel mmd recommended death for apostasy.

  • @mariasabir3821
    @mariasabir3821 9 місяців тому +29

    Difficult to listen to, and that's exactly why it's necessary to have this talk. Thank you so much for this Shehzad

  • @ReadnComment
    @ReadnComment 8 місяців тому +11

    She is a brave Pakistani Christian lady, she is talking about cheap muslim nation she hit the nail.
    Wishing her safety. God Bless you.

  • @edwin4642
    @edwin4642 9 місяців тому +11

    She is brave ♥ she has the courage of telling truth . Amazing women ♥

  • @nabeelk
    @nabeelk 9 місяців тому +13

    Congratulations 🎉 Shahzad Bhai for bringing her to the podcast. She has bigger balls than most of us combined.

  • @summertime_lol
    @summertime_lol 9 місяців тому +43

    So proud of her for discussing and bringing up this important issue and highlighting the Radical Jihadi Agenda launched by our radical Maulvis and Politicians. As a young muslim, I condemn the unfair Pakistani Blasphemy Law and I hope Allah guides our next generation and safeguard them from these Shaytani Maulvis. Ameen...

    • @mry300
      @mry300 9 місяців тому +1

      Amen

    • @jj-yi1ne
      @jj-yi1ne 9 місяців тому

      @@mry300 stop spreading your religion

    • @mry300
      @mry300 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@jj-yi1nekya matlab

    • @anadianBaconator
      @anadianBaconator 8 місяців тому +1

      @@jj-yi1newhat a dumb comment

    • @jj-yi1ne
      @jj-yi1ne 8 місяців тому

      @@anadianBaconator you proven my point. you didnt refute me. your religion is disgusting. you know its nonsense thats why you have to use these methods to keep your beliefs

  • @Michaelvarghesee
    @Michaelvarghesee 8 місяців тому +7

    I am a Keralyean Christian and I do pray for everyone's wellbeing.
    However , I am not cut off from my Civilizational Identity of being one with the Vedic HINDU Roots.
    Bharath is a Sacred Geography which was sliced by a Direct Action Day hoster a.k.a Jahil e Azam Jinnah.
    At the time of Independence, Punjabi Christian Community supported Jinnah in creating an Abrahamic Exclusive Franchise Country a.k.a Pakistan .
    This proved to be the FATAL Mistake in not ACCEPTING the fact that ABRAHAMIC SUPREMACY exists in the world as long as you glorify Invaders and as long your Holy Sanctum is in the Middle East.
    The Indo Abrahamic Converts* should know this Sacred Ground of Bharath is their Mother and Father.
    Those who love their Native Identity , their Ancient Civilizational Ancestors and its indigenous beliefs ....despite being Converted out of the Mainstream Fold ......they will always ensure that they live harmoniously with fellow Brothers and Sisters of ALL RELIGIONS.
    Shameless folks created a Terrorist Breeding Cult House that destroyed more than 500 Temples , Gurudwaras and Churches for creation of this so called Riyaasath e Mughalisthan.

  • @naveenantin9707
    @naveenantin9707 8 місяців тому +15

    I'm a CSI Christian in India.we live here peace fully life . We respect each other even they're different religions.

    • @skynet2010
      @skynet2010 8 місяців тому

      Good joke

    • @rohand04
      @rohand04 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@skynet2010I'm a proud Indian Christian and I have never been discriminated against in my life

    • @vibinrobin
      @vibinrobin 6 місяців тому

      ​@@skynet2010 I am Indian Catholic 🇮🇳

    • @SkyMonkeyDrum
      @SkyMonkeyDrum 5 місяців тому +1

      Manipur and ladakh 😂

    • @vibinrobin
      @vibinrobin 5 місяців тому +1

      @@SkyMonkeyDrum Manipur is Meitei vs Kuki

  • @gerarddsouza2178
    @gerarddsouza2178 8 місяців тому +6

    Beautiful and touching podcast. I pray for the Christian community in Pakistan

  • @Beep1616
    @Beep1616 9 місяців тому +17

    You continue to exceed every expectation that we set. Great job.🎉

  • @zakigill5315
    @zakigill5315 8 місяців тому +4

    Thanks shazad to give chance to explain our Christian community issues through sister Ghazala Sjafees.
    Thanks sister for well explained. 🙏
    Good show as usual👍

  • @dgurmani
    @dgurmani 8 місяців тому +3

    Love this episode. Please bring more of the Pakistan minority community on your show from the Sikh, Hindu, Parsi, Bahai, Christian, Hazara, Makrani, and other backgrounds. Thank you. We need this awareness more and more, not just in time after a horrific attack. Also, let's hold the people in power and influence that you interview accountable as well.

  • @ahmedhasssn.01
    @ahmedhasssn.01 9 місяців тому +11

    no doubt she’s a brave iron woman , more power to her.
    praying for her safety.

  • @samibabar9543
    @samibabar9543 9 місяців тому +12

    What an iron lady! She is the part of minority whose lynching, marginalization and segregation is celebrated by the Jahil community of Pakistan. And still she regards Pakistan her home. I have no words of her bravery. The time when there is a surge in flights and brain drain, she is standing tall and fighting for her home in the same country. No words literally. Prayers for your safety and security, and each and every minority communities.

  • @hotfun07
    @hotfun07 9 місяців тому +12

    This lady called out Manipur! Without realizing that Meitis have Christian and Sanamahi communities as well. Meitis DO NOT FOLLOW Hinduism only. Besides, Kuki immigration into the state across Mayanmar border has caused a demographic imbalance.
    What an opportunist 😅

    • @testahom4690
      @testahom4690 9 місяців тому

      Meitis are Hindus who are killing Kuki Christians. Modi is as bad as Pakis in killing Chrisitans

    • @prashantp2029
      @prashantp2029 9 місяців тому +4

      Sab pata hai bhai, it's just they have this tendency to play victim card no matter what....India being a 3rs world is no less than 1st world when it comes to treating its minorities

    • @AnuRajKhadka
      @AnuRajKhadka 9 місяців тому +2

      ​@@prashantp2029jitna bhi karo
      Sirf gyan dene gey yeh uthiye Desh key 😢😢

    • @prashantp2029
      @prashantp2029 9 місяців тому +2

      @@AnuRajKhadka Fir se rephrase karke bolo...samajh nahi aaya

    • @electrostatic4677
      @electrostatic4677 9 місяців тому

      Wether it's a tribal conflict or not the Fact is that 300+ Churches were burnt countless people murdered and women raped.. All of this is visible on media.. Where was your government? How could they let it happen for so long????

  • @comparativereligiondailynews
    @comparativereligiondailynews 8 місяців тому +7

    Freedom of Expression should be given to all. Abolish Blasphemy Law. There should be no Blasphemy law in any Islamic country.
    @ 29 September 2023
    @ 12 Rabi Ul Awwal 1445 AH in India ❤

  • @shifaburhan
    @shifaburhan 9 місяців тому +9

    I don't even want to say anything because there is a lot to say and I could go on and on and it will still not be enough. I left Pakistan 5 months ago. Sometimes, I feel like disassociating myself from Pakistan; other times I feel we should be the ones driving change and if not us, then who else? And at times, I feel that we all get only one life and why waste that life trying to improve or change a hopeless state? It's confusing, disappointing and disheartening. Thank you Shehzad for trying to speak up on these subjects and still believing that this country has hope.

    • @habeebmirza2723
      @habeebmirza2723 8 місяців тому

      Since you moved out, what do you think Pakistan's top five problems are?

    • @RG-iw4c
      @RG-iw4c 8 місяців тому

      @@habeebmirza2723 one one problem
      Islam and his preaching.
      Muslim vs non muslim(kafir).
      Arb ke bnaye allah ne.
      Vo isliye chal gye ki us time direct duri riyast pr war krke unke sansadhan and women ko kbja liya jata tha slave sex or dhan ka lalch
      Chal jata tha.
      Lekin aaj duniya vesi nhi rhi.

  • @asifpervaiz4069
    @asifpervaiz4069 8 місяців тому +1

    I am Asif from USA
    I highly appreciate, you are the only hope for Christians in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.
    Your interview opened the eyes of the European Union and humans right wing United Nations.

  • @bintezahra786
    @bintezahra786 9 місяців тому +4

    Thank you so much for conducting this Shehzad! We really need many more of such conversations to take place.
    Noreen Fatima

  • @jeremiahjohn1617
    @jeremiahjohn1617 9 місяців тому +11

    A really civil and informing podcast as well as a very needed take on present circumstances of our nation.

  • @Salreviews8
    @Salreviews8 7 місяців тому +2

    A fantastic interview given by the author and bringing awareness to normal Pakistans .Every individual irrespective of their religion should be given freedom to practice their own religion. No religion is superior.

  • @azeegs2960
    @azeegs2960 8 місяців тому +1

    Lots of respect to Pastor Gazala Shafique. I wish you life and safety.

  • @Outofthisworld794
    @Outofthisworld794 9 місяців тому +13

    30 minutes into podcast and cant hold my tears 😢

  • @mkhattakfocused1
    @mkhattakfocused1 8 місяців тому +1

    Candid and bold discussion by both of you. We need to put an end to discrimination against all minorities. I feeel ashamed on atrocities inflicted against Christians and apologise from my Christian brothers and sisters.

  • @atifazeem1702
    @atifazeem1702 9 місяців тому +2

    I wish you all the strength in this world to bring courage and understanding in The Community.

  • @annajoseph7027
    @annajoseph7027 8 місяців тому +3

    Best podcast ever .... Im glad Ps Ghazala brought issues all together, and that she was invited to speak the reality, although many wouldn't agree. She lives a life on thread. Bravo to you Ps Ghazala. I adore you ❤

  • @ali19231
    @ali19231 9 місяців тому +29

    Thanks for this Shehzad. Podcasts like yours reinforces the belief that our civil society is not dead. I am glad everyone in Pakistan came out to support our Christians brothers and sisters.

    • @ThePakistanExperience
      @ThePakistanExperience  9 місяців тому +1

    • @MujhenahiBolna-zk6pv
      @MujhenahiBolna-zk6pv 9 місяців тому

      And non abrahamic religion followers can die?

    • @amit9023
      @amit9023 9 місяців тому

      Your Constitution doesn't support then forget people... They can't hold higher post in Govt.. Can't become head of state.. And cleaning toilet is reserved for them... You guys are good in only comment section.. Otherwise born hater of non Muslim from core

    • @rohand04
      @rohand04 9 місяців тому +4

      we all know how much muslim respect it's minorities. And how much islamic Republic like Pakistan protect the non Muslims.
      Lahore had around 40% Hindus and Sikhs according to 1941 Census. It means the city had many temples and gurdwaras. Similar was the situation across the whole of Pakistan, including the part that became Bangladesh in 1971. Today, the country has just 13 operational Hindu temples managed by the Pakistan’s Evacuee Trust Property Board (ETPB), the Pakistan government institution that manages religious institutions and festivals of the minority community in the country.
      2014, an organization, the All Pakistan Hindu Rights Movement (PHRM), published a survey report. The survey report found that 95% of the temples present in Pakistan since 1990 were destroyed or damaged. Out of the 428 places of worship, only 20 remained operational while 408 temples were converted either into commercial properties or into residential establishments. Out of the 20 temples, 11 were in Sindh, 4 in Punjab, 3 in Balochistan and 2 in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.
      Babri Masjid demolition in India only hastened the pace of temple demolition across Pakistan and Bangladesh. Around 1,000 temples were alone targeted or destroyed in Pakistan and 2014 PHRM survey findings continue to reflect in 2021 as well. From 20 operational temples in 2014, Pakistan now only has 13 temples managed by ETPB.
      we all know the love what you give non Muslim specially Christian.. . In 1947 Muslims threatened Christians that Pakistan was made for Muslims only and that if Christians wanted to stay there, they had to live a life of servitude and perform sanitation work.. "Sewer Cleaners Wanted in Pakistan: Only Christians Need Apply." Remember this add by pakistani army in 2020. Guess nothing much change here..
      well it's hilarious when we see muslim pointing out isreal about the killing and Palestine or even Rohingaya or kashmir .. While the same won't say a word about the virtual annihilation by killing forced migration of non Muslim community in islamic country.. Where the native population is refused to below 5% in some places below 1% like afghanistan Pakistan Indonesia even all meddle east
      Have you ever asked why are the population of 31 islamic majority country have 95% + muslim population.. 39 have 88% +
      Why is it that it is impossible for non Muslim to live in these islamic country.. The Persian left for india..
      The Afghanistan lost it Buddhist monastery
      But how many islamic country condemn the virtual inhalation of sikh from afghanistan who were 6 mn in '71 .. And less than 100 left today.. Or the forced conversion and marriage of hindu and Christian under age girls in Pakistan.. The inhalation of Ahemidia in Pakistan Indonesia and kurdistani mens and thier girls turkey syria Iraq Iran.
      UAE and Saudi Qatar treatment of its labour is like trash. As per the islamic laws and Kafala System. Where labour were your property or slave
      Kurds have had a long history of discrimination perpetrated against them by the Turkish government. Massacres have periodically occurred against the Kurds since the establishment of the Republic of Turkey in 1923.
      Do you want me to go to talk about northern cyprus.
      The Indonesia.. The 2022 annual report of the Setara Institute on Democracy and Peace cited a total of 333 actions infringing on religious freedom during the year. Incidents of religious intolerance were highest in East Java. The report found nonstate actors conducted 175 of the actions infringing on freedom of religion during the year, up from 171 actions in 2021. Total incidents included 19 cases of blasphemy accusations, 13 cases of impeding the construction of a house of worship, 15 cases of forbidding worship, and seven cases of destruction of houses of worship
      I'm sorry I still have not heard a single word of condemnation from any muslim..
      Just look at only islamic State in India.. Where are the natives
      The reality is you expect india to be secularism but you justified a killing because the alleged disrespect of quran in your own Bangladesh..
      While in India Christian we are among the richest religious demographic only second to sikh.. Earning 2 times the national average and have 2 highest education percentage.. Only second to jains..
      Guess I am blessed to be born in India not the other side of the borderline

    • @MujhenahiBolna-zk6pv
      @MujhenahiBolna-zk6pv 9 місяців тому

      @@rohand04 As a Jain I approve it

  • @rasa8600
    @rasa8600 9 місяців тому +6

    Very sad state of affairs for the minorities & looks like the Govt & majority doesn’t care about them . Thanks for the Podcast hopefully people will show empathy & this violent herd mentality will end.

  • @electrostatic4677
    @electrostatic4677 9 місяців тому +16

    Best podcast till date.. Takes a lot of Courage to do it in Pakistan, and I really appreciate you and commend you for this. 🙏🏼❤

  • @TechForgeEmmad
    @TechForgeEmmad 9 місяців тому +4

    Thankyou so much for this, more power to the lady.

  • @amitbhotia
    @amitbhotia 9 місяців тому +73

    horrific condition of minorities in Pakistan 😢😢😢

    • @ali19231
      @ali19231 9 місяців тому +11

      The entire world watched the naked girl in Manipur. Don't throw stones when your own house is made of glass.

    • @sahilnautiyal4575
      @sahilnautiyal4575 9 місяців тому +17

      ​@@ali19231bro ye hora hai no deny..ye chiz kabi ni ruk sakti duniya mae... but beside..we INDIAN 🇮🇳🇮🇳 progresing in every fild...and look out you your Country everything is chaos...and pakistan ek din bi bheek ke bina ni chal sakti

    • @rohand04
      @rohand04 9 місяців тому +20

      ​@@ali19231I'm a proud Indian Christian and yes we are happy and prosperous in our land...
      It ironic that Pakistani try to protray manipuri attack as attack' on Christian and Hindus
      understand why they are fighting.. The naga & kuki trib (predominantly Christian tribal )has reservation in Indian Constitution and are protected by the Indian Constitution under the sedule trib act.. the metli tribes (predominantly hindu and muslim) too want .. This protection.. Which Kuki tribe are in opposition and have picked up arms for the same..
      Please don't portray it as an attack on Christian.. When in actuality it's a tribal conflict.. Till recently kuki and naga both Christian were fighting for dominance over the forest of manipur..
      Indian constitution does not discriminate based on religion..
      We all have equal opportunity to progress and prosper
      As India Christian we are among the richest religious demographic only second to sikh.. Earning 2 times the national average and have 2 highest education percentage.. Only second to jains..
      Guess I am blessed to be born in India not the other side of the borderline

    • @iotasymbol8498
      @iotasymbol8498 9 місяців тому +4

      ​@@ali19231 but it was ethinic war not an relegious onw

    • @asadullamomin2638
      @asadullamomin2638 9 місяців тому +4

      Same in india

  • @bashh568
    @bashh568 9 місяців тому +3

    Thanks for amplifying voices like this

  • @horridcreep6340
    @horridcreep6340 9 місяців тому +7

    This is why Shehzad and Junaid are my favorite Podcasters,love you both with all my heart ❤️💕

  • @NK29979
    @NK29979 8 місяців тому +2

    It was heart wrenching to watch this podcast. Completed this podcast in three sittings. While the discrimination from micro to macro level is astounding, the privileged majority are completely indifferent or in denial of this blatant violation of human rights. Salute to Pastor Ghazala for still being optimistic about change in the society. Thank you, Shahzad for this much needed podcast.

  • @patmclaughlin107
    @patmclaughlin107 9 місяців тому +1

    @1:08:15 Very very important point. Respect for this woman for speaking her mind out. Very courageous woman.

  • @bharathfsf3686
    @bharathfsf3686 9 місяців тому +14

    Kudos to you for doing a podcast on Christian lives in Pakistan. It's a horrifying tale.

    • @ThePakistanExperience
      @ThePakistanExperience  9 місяців тому

      🙌

    • @user-ln6cc4rf5z
      @user-ln6cc4rf5z 9 місяців тому

      WHAT ABOUT INDIA? MUNIPUR?

    • @mrinalinisingh3819
      @mrinalinisingh3819 9 місяців тому +2

      ​@@user-ln6cc4rf5zit between community metei and kuki.

    • @rohand04
      @rohand04 9 місяців тому +4

      ​@@user-ln6cc4rf5z I'm a proud Indian Christian and yes we are happy and prosperous in our land...
      It ironic that Pakistani try to protray manipuri attack as attack' on Christian and Hindus
      understand why they are fighting.. The naga & kuki trib (predominantly Christian tribal )has reservation in Indian Constitution and are protected by the Indian Constitution under the sedule trib act.. the metli tribes (predominantly hindu and muslim) too want .. This protection.. Which Kuki tribe are in opposition and have picked up arms for the same..
      Please don't portray it as an attack on Christian.. When in actuality it's a tribal conflict.. Till recently kuki and naga both Christian were fighting for dominance over the forest of manipur..
      Indian constitution does not discriminate based on religion..
      We all have equal opportunity to progress and prosper
      As India Christian we are among the richest religious demographic only second to sikh.. Earning 2 times the national average and have 2 highest education percentage.. Only second to jains..
      Guess I am blessed to be born in India not the other side of the borderline

    • @user-ln6cc4rf5z
      @user-ln6cc4rf5z 9 місяців тому

      I FOLLOW INDIAN NEWS. ITS ABOUT RELIGION, WHY CHURCHES WERE BURNED?@@rohand04

  • @FauiqeAlone
    @FauiqeAlone 9 місяців тому +10

    The true wonder woman ❤❤❤ Thank you Shehzad once again for bringing to us thoughts of this great person. ❤

  • @brosssss844
    @brosssss844 9 місяців тому +6

    She is so brave to be talking about it.

  • @AbhishekVerma-jk2tt
    @AbhishekVerma-jk2tt 9 місяців тому +2

    Excellent discussion! Its tough to look at oneself, ones own country and talk abut all the wrongs, but such introspection is thr only way forward. Brilliant guest! She's an orator for sure

    • @ThePakistanExperience
      @ThePakistanExperience  9 місяців тому

      🙌

    • @kamalshar7204
      @kamalshar7204 8 місяців тому

      Bhai aisi podcast Bharat me kar ke dikha de pata chal jaayega 😂 manipur me 400+ churches jal chuke hai koi bol kyun nhi Raha hai 😂 hypocrites sanatan😂

    • @jokepore1532
      @jokepore1532 6 місяців тому

      itni nafrat q hai aapko hinduo se?? @@kamalshar7204

  • @kavitakhanna177
    @kavitakhanna177 9 місяців тому

    Very informative podcast.We should listen to her. Her ideas are universal.

  • @user-ij1jb4so6p
    @user-ij1jb4so6p 9 місяців тому +5

    This is a pseudo account I use to do my work, But I am a Pakistani belonging to Shia community. We are and always have faced this extremism against us. We hardly take any kind of unconstitutional or extreme step despite all odds we simply protest and raise our voice against the injustice we have been facing so far . So the Ulumah that came to you to take a step forward to guide the new generation and start a joint campaign against this kind of mindset is a genuine effort by them. I deeply condemn what ever is happening in Pakistan to any minority and as an informed and educated Muslim I know the my rights and all of the rights of people of all religions and even to those who do not believe in any.

    • @jj-yi1ne
      @jj-yi1ne 9 місяців тому

      shias are raped in india. stop crying

  • @HOG1070
    @HOG1070 9 місяців тому +8

    the most dangerous thing i found in this discussion is about the school textbook and what they say about other religions.
    Unless that is changed, nothing will.

  • @babar_rav_apte
    @babar_rav_apte 9 місяців тому +28

    Also I just wanna tell all those listening to this....both Pakistani and Indians
    Police chief of Punjab blamed this incident on RAW.

    • @ananyasingh2663
      @ananyasingh2663 9 місяців тому +12

      We are actually living in a meme huh

    • @user-ln6cc4rf5z
      @user-ln6cc4rf5z 9 місяців тому +5

      THEY THROW THEIR LIABILITIES ON OTHERS

    • @atokimruk937
      @atokimruk937 9 місяців тому +6

      Everything including bad weather, indigestion, etc are all blamed on India/RAW. The low IQ Pak-Punjab IG is just one example. .

    • @sameerturki5159
      @sameerturki5159 9 місяців тому +2

      Its RAAAAAAA...

    • @pragsri8377
      @pragsri8377 9 місяців тому +2

      So this is how Mission Majnu movie was written.

  • @devenbhalerao3569
    @devenbhalerao3569 9 місяців тому +25

    Pastor's name is Ghazala Shafiqe.. this itself says about the state of minorities in Pakistan..

    • @r.b6170
      @r.b6170 9 місяців тому

      What do you mean; I don't understand: what's particular about her name ????

    • @imxohail
      @imxohail 9 місяців тому

      @@r.b6170 In Pakistan, Christians mask their religious identity by naming their kids same as muslims.

    • @surajrshetty
      @surajrshetty 9 місяців тому +3

      Her name sounds Muslim. In India , Christians usually have christian names.

    • @r.b6170
      @r.b6170 9 місяців тому

      @@surajrshetty I think you mean to say "English names". .... ( most Arab Christians have what many in the subcontinent would consider 'Muslims names' )

    • @surajrshetty
      @surajrshetty 9 місяців тому +3

      @@r.b6170 Arab Muslims and Christians use arabic as common language so it is understandable there. Why would Pakistani Christians have “Arabic” names? Have you considered that they may be doing out so that they don’t stand out and get targeted?

  • @preetmohantuli1795
    @preetmohantuli1795 9 місяців тому +3

    An amazing podcast and a very emotional one . Shehzad bhai you are truly surprising with your efforts and hard work .
    Rest up when you can , your country needs many more like you

  • @saifuddin7187
    @saifuddin7187 8 місяців тому +1

    Thank you riaz bhai ❤❤❤ for raising your voice against minorities genocide in pakistan. Being a good Muslim i strongly condemned this disgusting genocides. We want a prosperous peaceful Pakistan and all minorities are the real patriotic pakistani

  • @alithegreat6541
    @alithegreat6541 9 місяців тому +14

    Hello sir. You're one of few people in my list i love to listen a single word you utter.
    You talk on those topics which usually skipped out by main Media.
    You give me a sense to think critically all is not fine.
    Thank you so much. 😍😍

    • @ThePakistanExperience
      @ThePakistanExperience  9 місяців тому

    • @ahaanmisra4892
      @ahaanmisra4892 9 місяців тому

      ​@@Babasasa111aapne last time kitaab ki shakal kab dekhi thi??? Calendar dekh kar batana!! Agar dekhna aata ho

  • @Samuelsherif
    @Samuelsherif Місяць тому

    Thanks for raising the voice for the Minorities of Pakistan.
    She is a great Christian leader.

  • @ravindramorey5433
    @ravindramorey5433 9 місяців тому +7

    The condition of Christian is as worse as Hindus and Sikhs in Pakistan is really surprising as an Indian. Anyway, it is said that during partition, many Christians in Punjab opted for Pakistan against India since they thought Islam is closure to Christianity compared to Hinduism. How foolish decision in retrospective.

    • @jj-yi1ne
      @jj-yi1ne 9 місяців тому

      you just made that up. how many christians are you killing in manipur

    • @usama5263
      @usama5263 8 місяців тому

      Manipur mein bhi christians hi hein na??

    • @AnuRajKhadka
      @AnuRajKhadka 8 місяців тому

      ​@@usama5263christians vs Christians hein Ache se in Padh ley

    • @usama5263
      @usama5263 8 місяців тому

      @@AnuRajKhadka
      🤣🤣🤣
      Nice joke, it's Hindus vs Christians, Christians Kya Apne khudke church jala rhe hein??
      You indians are like those uncles who love to gossip about others, but when someone talks about them they hate it
      you indians are like those uncles

    • @Char444
      @Char444 8 місяців тому

      Actually conditions of Christians is relatively better than hindus and sikhs because Christians are more educated, are more in army and have more support from missionarries.

  • @bellowcloudlion1656
    @bellowcloudlion1656 9 місяців тому +8

    I heard a Christian Air Force pilot once say, 'I have no idea anymore why I fight for this country. My community is debased and degraded. Is this the Pakistan I fight for?". He retired soon after and left the country. There are more like him, I have met them, and by the end of it all, they are dispirited and disillusioned. What the Pakistani state does to its minorities is barbaric. There is no way out of the abyss until the state reconfigures the ideological worldview of its citizens. Now that the Pakistani State is on the brink, it might finally be compelled to take stock of the fictitious and specious ideology that it has disseminated ever since its inception.

  • @pa1ful
    @pa1ful 9 місяців тому

    Thank you Shehzad, This is a much needed conversation to be had in our entire subcontinent.

  • @jamalkhan3708
    @jamalkhan3708 3 місяці тому +1

    Beautiful conversation. This is the reason Muslims are leaving Islam and as a Pakistani I am on of them declaring Jesus Christ is Lord and savior.
    Much love and respect for sister Ghzala🙏
    First time on this channel and it’s owned my subscription.

  • @shahzebkhan2654
    @shahzebkhan2654 8 місяців тому

    Even the way she is speaking with heavy heart and almost about to cry which even make me emotional.

  • @rabiafaizy
    @rabiafaizy 9 місяців тому +1

    making a lot of sense. Well said.

  • @stephennehemiah
    @stephennehemiah 8 місяців тому +2

    Wish India had youtubers like you in this climate. This is fantastic reporting to platform a minority voice and ask the right questions and let them answer.

  • @TruthPrevailz
    @TruthPrevailz 9 місяців тому +5

    Man this woman is so calm while saying what she is saying. Stable head.

  • @nazmulhaque7025
    @nazmulhaque7025 9 місяців тому +2

    Watching from Bangladesh🇧🇩

  • @ajb4690
    @ajb4690 8 місяців тому

    Thank you very much for bringing up relevant people on the podcast and have a constructive discussion to educate people and make them question their delusional worldview.
    I really appreciate your work. Keep up the good work:)

  • @supriyakeswani
    @supriyakeswani 9 місяців тому +3

    I’m gutted hearing this - never realised things are this bad with minorities in Pak. Thank god things are so very different with us in India.

    • @r.b6170
      @r.b6170 9 місяців тому

      Very much so; as we've recently seen

    • @sandipanhalder6188
      @sandipanhalder6188 9 місяців тому

      Ok enjoy your pakistan🤣🤣

  • @abusami6922
    @abusami6922 8 місяців тому +1

    May God bless you sister 🙏🏻
    I think all the Patriots regardless of there religious beliefs to protect and bring out the country from such crises, should stand with sister Gazala and likewise organization
    🙏🏻🤔

  • @iramfatima3480
    @iramfatima3480 8 місяців тому

    It needs a lot of courage to bring this topic. We are at the verge of collapse due to self destruction. Ended in tears!!

  • @ryneronline
    @ryneronline 9 місяців тому +10

    There is still a large number of people from all classes who have no idea what happened.. they still dont know what happened in Pindi or Gojra or Shanti Nagar or Jospeh Colony or the couple burnt alive in the brick klin

  • @parveenakhtar3084
    @parveenakhtar3084 9 місяців тому +1

    Hello sister Pastor Ghazala ji, you are great woman of God, our people's are not safe there finally they need to come out from there and this we can do together, God bless you 🙏

    • @kamalshar7204
      @kamalshar7204 8 місяців тому

      Yahi baat Bharat me bol ke dikha manipur me 400+ churches jaaleyi gayi hai. Chattisgarh me bhi 100s churches jaalya gaye hai uska kya waha kyun nhi bolte ? 😂😂 hypocrites 😂

  • @AlPacinoSalvador7
    @AlPacinoSalvador7 9 місяців тому +1

    Shehzad you are shehzada and thank you for asking my question regarding Ertugrul.
    I have many things to share with you but for now all I would say is thank you.
    Lots of prayers for you and your family.

  • @sprinkleroilfish
    @sprinkleroilfish 9 місяців тому +3

    Thanks for the podcast Shehzad ❤

  • @raylaghari2577
    @raylaghari2577 9 місяців тому +1

    Thank you Ada for speaking to her!

  • @muhammadharris4470
    @muhammadharris4470 8 місяців тому

    Extremely refreshing to hear her 🙂

  • @noorbakhshiatimes786
    @noorbakhshiatimes786 9 місяців тому +11

    Az a Muslim i am really so sorry Mam😢...I am.ashamed.

    • @SaurabhDube195
      @SaurabhDube195 9 місяців тому +2

      It's your book which justifies this actions..you shouldn't be ashamed.. you should be proud.

    • @chanchalbpsingh6708
      @chanchalbpsingh6708 9 місяців тому

      Shame on chuslam....

    • @noorbakhshiatimes786
      @noorbakhshiatimes786 9 місяців тому

      @@SaurabhDube195
      Which book bro? Moolvies like TLP justifies such types of action not our book like Holy Quran. There is no permition ........

    • @jj-yi1ne
      @jj-yi1ne 9 місяців тому

      @@chanchalbpsingh6708 how did you come to that conclusion

    • @chanchalbpsingh6708
      @chanchalbpsingh6708 9 місяців тому

      @@jj-yi1ne Harkate dekho chuslam driven musalmano ki.... You shall also reach this conclusion.

  • @shashwattripathi4559
    @shashwattripathi4559 9 місяців тому +1

    First of all ma'am hats off. Incredibly brave commentary. I pray that sense prevails Secondly proud of my fellow indians to not be engaging in schadenfreude in the comments.

  • @ananyasingh2663
    @ananyasingh2663 9 місяців тому +11

    Guys repeat after me
    RELIGION IS THE ISSUE.
    RELIGION IS THE ISSUE
    RELIGION IS THE ISSUE

    • @jj-yi1ne
      @jj-yi1ne 9 місяців тому

      your religion is the issue. you support bloodshed so you can cry victim about your religion

  • @Navdeepsingh-td7yd
    @Navdeepsingh-td7yd 9 місяців тому

    Sorry to hear abt this.Rab bhala kara.

  • @persisd7428
    @persisd7428 8 місяців тому

    May God bless you and keep you in His care

  • @waseem42khan
    @waseem42khan 8 місяців тому

    Excellent Sister Pastor Ghazala

  • @geetaprabhakar4261
    @geetaprabhakar4261 8 місяців тому

    Respect for your Honesty,Shezaad 🙏🙏🙏

  • @farooqwilson
    @farooqwilson 9 місяців тому +2

    Both of them are real humanitarian workers

  • @ashutoshtripathi5402
    @ashutoshtripathi5402 9 місяців тому

    These types of podcasts 🙏

  • @nopenother3915
    @nopenother3915 9 місяців тому

    Sending you love and well wishes from India maam. Ur strength is inspiring, and I wish we could help in some way.

  • @manojbhavsar9217
    @manojbhavsar9217 9 місяців тому +8

    Shehzad Bhai you are very brave 🌹🌹🌹

  • @MHanan-sn4wx
    @MHanan-sn4wx 9 місяців тому +1

    A great podcast 👏 👌 👍

  • @kamranchaudhry5747
    @kamranchaudhry5747 9 місяців тому +5

    Please staf safe Pastor sahba. We need you for the long fight

    • @kamalshar7204
      @kamalshar7204 8 місяців тому

      Bharat ke pastors ko bhi support kar manipur me 400+ churches jaalye gaya hai. Waha nhi dikhta tum logo ko 😂 hypocrisy 😂 Kai 100 Christian mahilayon ko nanga ghumaya gaya hai 😂

  • @imranrakha
    @imranrakha 8 місяців тому

    Proud of Ghazala and thanks to #tpe

  • @Gamer-bw8zz
    @Gamer-bw8zz 8 місяців тому

    Great work

  • @rishiraaj.580
    @rishiraaj.580 8 місяців тому +2

    Very Very Scary Situation. 😮

  • @saqh.4439
    @saqh.4439 8 місяців тому

    Bitter truth ,so sad and inhumane

  • @khalidmufti4463
    @khalidmufti4463 9 місяців тому +3

    ہمیں مذاہب سے بالا تر ہو کر صرف انسان بننے کی اشد ضرورت ہے

  • @maryamcheema8427
    @maryamcheema8427 8 місяців тому

    I appreciate this sister's inspirational message, which continues to share hope and love even in the face of her community's pain. Dear sister ❤, you have no need to prove yourself. Our true measure should be how we treat our fellow brothers and sisters in humanity, and we should fear God in that regard. My heart goes out to our Christian brethren and their struggles 😭. They are referred to as "People of the Book" in the Quran. It's important to counter the extremists and clerics who deny their Pakistani identity. I've had the privilege of meeting Christians who have a deeper connection with God than some Muslims. This sister's knowledge of Islam surpasses that of many who claim to be "people of knowledge." Who are we to judge? Everyone is Allahs creations, love them as he loves them.

  • @timemania4777
    @timemania4777 9 місяців тому +1

    Once again Great podcast....🥲🥲

    • @ThePakistanExperience
      @ThePakistanExperience  9 місяців тому

    • @chanchalbpsingh6708
      @chanchalbpsingh6708 9 місяців тому

      ​@@ThePakistanExperience Kafir ko mara to kya hua ki she was 7 month pregnant... Jannat milegi with 72 virgin hoors to quench Islamic tharak.... This is real face of chuslam...

  • @dawoodkate1565
    @dawoodkate1565 8 місяців тому

    She is a brave lady one time I see him with my eye I pray may me we get more sister like her

  • @asherswing
    @asherswing 8 місяців тому

    thank you

  • @CoderNerdette
    @CoderNerdette 4 місяці тому

    very good and God bless you👍👍👍👍👍

  • @momo19991
    @momo19991 8 місяців тому

    Thank you for bringing Pastor Ghazala Shafique. While collective punishment is against our modern sense of justice and empathy, we cannot say that it doesn't come from religion. We can look at what happened to Banu Quraiza where countless men and boys were slaughtered, and the stories of cities that Allah destroyed including that of Loot and Thamood. This whole idea of blasphemy and extreme physical punishment for words uttered, and personal behavior is coming from Islam. In Pakistan, this ideology and laws based on religion are destroying the unity of Pakistan.

  • @Gappasappa
    @Gappasappa 9 місяців тому +2

    Can't bear to listen to the whole podcast. The pain, just to listen, is unbearable. 😢😢

  • @donystills3876
    @donystills3876 9 місяців тому +2

    We r proud of you sister

  • @niyajee
    @niyajee 9 місяців тому +3

    Bahut shukriya. One of the best podcast. Love You n best of luck for your bright future. Indian chahte hain Pakistan prosperous ho progress karey.

  • @MujhenahiBolna-zk6pv
    @MujhenahiBolna-zk6pv 9 місяців тому +7

    00:00:46 To be honest Christian and ahemadia communities in Today's Pakistan were fore runner for partition and now you can see how are they treated. I guess there is a thing called Karma

    • @electrostatic4677
      @electrostatic4677 9 місяців тому +1

      That's not true.. There are only 1.2% Christians in Pakistan that were already living there before partition.. No Christian or Hindu ever migrated here. Infact There are more Hindus( 2.2%) than Christians in Pakistan.

    • @testahom4690
      @testahom4690 9 місяців тому

      Liar liar. Why would Christians supprot partition to create a Islamic country. Either you are a blind Modi bhakt ya Islamic Jihadi

    • @prashantp2029
      @prashantp2029 9 місяців тому

      ​@@electrostatic4677Those numbers are highly inflated....talk to any neutral expert on demographic...he will tell you how they inflate minority numbers to avoid international scrutiny

    • @MujhenahiBolna-zk6pv
      @MujhenahiBolna-zk6pv 9 місяців тому

      @@electrostatic4677Bro that's what I am saying Lahore was a city 50 muslim 50 hindu - sikh but when it came to voting Christians voted to muslims