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  • Опубліковано 3 лип 2024
  • This is from yesterday’s livestream!
    From Epic the Musical Thunder Saga by ‪@JayHerrans‬
    ⚠️ THIS DOES NOT BELONG TO ME ⚠️
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  • @4welementender
    @4welementender  2 дні тому +42

    THE VIDEO FOR THE ENTIRE LIVESTREAM IS OUT!

    • @bookreviewsfromareadingmac1148
      @bookreviewsfromareadingmac1148 День тому +3

      Where is it available?

    • @baolongleuc2588
      @baolongleuc2588 День тому +1

      ​@@bookreviewsfromareadingmac1148It's set to private right when the stream ended, luckily I joined it right at the beginning of Luck Runs Out.

    • @storminlogan1878
      @storminlogan1878 День тому

      I joined right around Survive.

  • @chesscakee
    @chesscakee 3 дні тому +890

    I wish the live streams for Epic were kept up rather than privated. I appreciate you posting the live stream for this Saga

    • @Bethopo
      @Bethopo 3 дні тому +23

      WAIT SHOOT NEVERMIND IT DID GET PRIVATED NO

    • @Bethopo
      @Bethopo 3 дні тому +18

      Im so sorry the underworld and ocean saga seem to be at least unlisted I’m sorry

    • @zoerose6194
      @zoerose6194 2 дні тому +14

      Yeah it was at 2am for me

    • @Adrianacopycat
      @Adrianacopycat 2 дні тому +8

      why was it privated?

    • @Mapple318
      @Mapple318 2 дні тому +17

      Real, like my sleep schedule is already messed up, i cannot afford to to not sleep a night for the lives T-T

  • @xsxeno
    @xsxeno 3 дні тому +744

    For y’all who havent noticed: this saga was released on independence day. Odysseus loses his whole crew, thus becoming independent
    yep
    nah i go to school and come back to likr 300 likes what the

    • @red_moon_in_venus
      @red_moon_in_venus 2 дні тому +33

      STOP THIS MAKES EVERYTHING SO MUCH WORSE 😭

    • @Apollo_G
      @Apollo_G 2 дні тому +22

      NAHHH YOU UNSAY THAT RIGHT NOW 😭😭😭

    • @arandompersonontheinternet8690
      @arandompersonontheinternet8690 2 дні тому +32

      on top of that technically he rereleased the first two sagas because the old record labels sucked and he didnt get money so you could say its Jay's Version (i hate myself)

    • @fortunaazofefluger8958
      @fortunaazofefluger8958 2 дні тому +2

      But not for long

    • @Lychiiee
      @Lychiiee 2 дні тому +19

      All of the Sagas have dropped on holidays. This is just a fun little fact that is actually really interesting to see;
      The Troy Saga - Christmas & Independence Day
      The Cyclops Saga - Holocaust Remembrance Day & Independence Day
      The Ocean Saga - Christmas
      The Circe Saga - Valentines Day
      The Underworld Saga - Chernobyl Remembrance Day
      The Thunder Saga - Independence Day

  • @LaContaminacion413
    @LaContaminacion413 2 дні тому +322

    After listening to this, The Horse and the Infant takes on a totally different dimension. "The blood on your hands is something you won't lose. All you can choose is whose."

    • @Mapple318
      @Mapple318 2 дні тому +40

      And both time, its because Zeus pushed him to choose someone who will die

    • @Spiritfox1
      @Spiritfox1 2 дні тому +6

      Wow Gigi’s Mutiny is BUTIFUL

    • @Mapple318
      @Mapple318 2 дні тому +10

      @@Spiritfox1 for real! And the way Odysseus brands his sword only to be stabbed by another man is EXACTLY how i thought it'd go the first time i heard the full version!

    • @Spiritfox1
      @Spiritfox1 2 дні тому +1

      @@Mapple318 I watch her animations like 24/7

    • @Mapple318
      @Mapple318 2 дні тому

      @@Spiritfox1 as you should.

  • @deltaphazon4688
    @deltaphazon4688 2 дні тому +361

    I do like how the animation of Scylla has Odysseus letting Eurylochus hold one of the torches after he admits to being the one who opened the wind bag. It's like he's saying "You got most of the fleet killed? Then you can die next."

    • @sada-hoshi4331
      @sada-hoshi4331 2 дні тому +16

      Why he was the one who got the fleet killed? Wasn't it because they hurt the cyclops and poseidon found them at that time?

    • @Soupdippedinbread-jt9gq
      @Soupdippedinbread-jt9gq 2 дні тому +66

      ​@@sada-hoshi4331, my logic is probably wrong but to me, if eurylochus didn't open the bag, they wouldn't have ended up getting blown to Poseidon

    • @questworldiangreenknight7455
      @questworldiangreenknight7455 2 дні тому +56

      When listening I immediately wondered “oh crap is he gonna try and give Eurylochus to Scylla?!”…Honestly don’t blame him. Eurylochus is kind of a massive hypocrite.

    • @questworldiangreenknight7455
      @questworldiangreenknight7455 2 дні тому +34

      @@Soupdippedinbread-jt9gqtrue, they probably would have got home just before Poseidon showed up, so they’d still have an angry god to deal with but better on land than a rickety boat lol

    • @terra4822
      @terra4822 2 дні тому +19

      ​@@questworldiangreenknight7455
      Im pretty sure had they landed home, Poseidon would have flooded Ithaca.

  • @Ash_ok33
    @Ash_ok33 2 дні тому +146

    As one of the Sun Gods’s cows, i can definitely say we were pissed off

    • @Ayhgkcgbhdgjj
      @Ayhgkcgbhdgjj 2 дні тому +15

      On another note would the sun cows’ milk be magical

    • @Malygosblues
      @Malygosblues 2 дні тому +20

      Are you all enjoying Epic the Moosical?

  • @Hanahaki_Lily
    @Hanahaki_Lily 2 дні тому +380

    Lowkey, Odysseus put a whole lot of faith of Zeus actually dropping that thunder cuase i was actually scared that the crew would strike odysseys down for a second there-

    • @guycrew3973
      @guycrew3973 2 дні тому +37

      I mean Zeus did say he was the judgement call so you can’t blame Odysseus

    • @robertmartens9072
      @robertmartens9072 2 дні тому +49

      I also think at that moment he didnt care. Probably felt he deserved it

    • @SrJumbo
      @SrJumbo 2 дні тому +32

      Yeah his mental was probably in shambles sacrificing his crew and he was starving with a stab wound during a 12 year long journey with his crew not listening to him.

    • @trla6505
      @trla6505 2 дні тому +8

      @@robertmartens9072 he would relief that moment for the rest of his live i know

    • @carlossosa7879
      @carlossosa7879 2 дні тому +10

      If an all powerful god tells you to choose I’m pretty sure you know he will either keep his word or kill u himself no in between

  • @maskyartist2127
    @maskyartist2127 2 дні тому +383

    ngl what i love most about thunder bringer, aside from the obvious, is one thing. The Siren's Song DID effect Odysseus in a very small way. when making his choice, him or his crew, "Penelope" comes in to sing "I will take the suffering from you"
    It's not meant to be the Siren Song taking effect, but it has that same feeling, as that WASNT his wife saying that. That was just a facade tempting him towards death, and considering we see in the animatic that Odysseus joins his crew in the water-
    its just good symbolism :) like the siren song DID work just not for the siren. It worked for Odysseus and gave him that last push to keep moving.
    For the CHANCE to see his wife in the flesh, and not just some illusion.

    • @villals
      @villals 2 дні тому +48

      Off topic but i dont think anyone else noticed. Odyseus wasnt just buying time in suffering he was also testing the sirens morals. "Nah you wouldnt have spared me." Everytime the siren demanded odyseus join her in the water odyseus kept up the act to "buy time" but also to see if the siren would give up and spare odyseus instead of insisting he come in the water but the siren failed his hopes and he decided to be cruel towards them

    • @Spiritfox1
      @Spiritfox1 2 дні тому +4

      You guys are good at finding Easter eggs

    • @captainblue5096
      @captainblue5096 2 дні тому +2

      @@villalsI doubt it since his crew was rounding the others up anyway. He knew what the sirens wanted and would do to him, but he kept the charade to learn the way home.

    • @villals
      @villals 2 дні тому +4

      @@captainblue5096 exactly what i meant by the "buy time" part but its cool to headcanon that he was hoping to find atleast a bit of mercy in the siren

    • @crusaderthestranger5982
      @crusaderthestranger5982 День тому +2

      @@villals
      That's an interesting observation!
      Although it's not confirmed this does sound like something Odysseus would consider.

  • @liloubanana7196
    @liloubanana7196 2 дні тому +67

    Think Eurylochus realized Odysseus marked him as sacrifice and he only survived because he gave the torch to his crewmate ? Hearing Ody calling him brother afterwards to try and appease him, the irony ✨

  • @vivianacordova8809
    @vivianacordova8809 2 дні тому +165

    Seriously what the heck did Jorge put in this saga!? I cant stop listening to it

    • @emanuelstornello8009
      @emanuelstornello8009 2 дні тому +16

      The special epic sauce

    • @DelliGaming
      @DelliGaming 2 дні тому +20

      He sprinkled some lotus in for good measure

    • @Alby-td3ub
      @Alby-td3ub 2 дні тому +7

      @@DelliGamingyhea also he may have harnessed the power of the Sirens

    • @elijahquipse5879
      @elijahquipse5879 2 дні тому +10

      He put the ✨Pam Pam ✨

    • @vivianacordova8809
      @vivianacordova8809 2 дні тому +3

      @@elijahquipse5879 OMG I love your profile pic! 🔱

  • @ailiathegreat
    @ailiathegreat 3 дні тому +211

    am I the only ones who think the crew is WARNING Eury about Odysseus not caring about what he must do to survive during Mutiny?

  • @erikatempesti1151
    @erikatempesti1151 2 дні тому +25

    Ody in the underword: "then i become the monster!"
    Me now after the Thunder saga: IT'S TOO MUCH MONSTER ODYSSEUS!!! QwQ

  • @4welementender
    @4welementender  2 дні тому +79

    Scylla: 6 torches, basically 6 deaths because created light to distract Scylla so they can make it out alive, Eurylochus dropped the torch so he didn’t die
    That’s my interpretation

    • @SrJumbo
      @SrJumbo 2 дні тому +32

      In the animation if u look closely he hands his torch to a crew member to run and save someone then he realizes the torches are bait for the monsters. I think that head canon is pretty cool.

    • @King_scar
      @King_scar День тому +1

      its probably pitch black so ur right i think =]

  • @amruthuniverse9340
    @amruthuniverse9340 2 дні тому +213

    Damn, it’s kinda sad seeing ody betraying his crew, all this wouldn’t have happened if Eurylochus didn’t open the bag, right?

    • @ritajitpal3323
      @ritajitpal3323 2 дні тому +36

      Well they betrayed first

    • @zoe.r.4544
      @zoe.r.4544 2 дні тому +82

      Probably not. They probably would have gotten home before meeting Poseidon. They were very close. They wouldn't have gone to Circe, which means no underworld, which means no drawn out journey, which also means no hunger, and subsequently no unaliving of Apollos cow friends, and no dead crew. That betrayal was part of the reason everything went wrong

    • @amruthuniverse9340
      @amruthuniverse9340 2 дні тому

      @@zoe.r.4544 damn

    • @kenken2982
      @kenken2982 2 дні тому +30

      Eurylochus could have died 2 different times throughout the story but lived through both after which did something dumb which caused the death of more people

    • @TalkativeHands
      @TalkativeHands 2 дні тому +48

      Yeah, they were so close to home that Odysseus' mother was able to see them get blown away. And in some stories this is what caused her to take her own life.
      Also, the crew betrayed him first.

  • @Omega_WoIf
    @Omega_WoIf 2 дні тому +107

    I am absolutely LOVING Zeus’s design, the black and yellow look SO COOL!! He’s still awful for forcing Odysseus to kill an infant and making him choose between himself or his men. He looks badass though.

    • @NateFaglie
      @NateFaglie 2 години тому

      Zeus is Zeus he’s meant to be an assholl

  • @emanuelstornello8009
    @emanuelstornello8009 2 дні тому +43

    Knowing zeus and listening to the gruesome fate line makes me think that the crew died not by the explosion or drowned but that they got electrocuted to death as the ship was struck, leaving only Odysseus alive as zeus willfully avoided hitting hin with the lightning

    • @mrpyon3724
      @mrpyon3724 2 дні тому

      In the oddysey, they not die for the lighting, they were send with the waters to be devored by charibdis.

    • @fbiuzz
      @fbiuzz День тому +1

      @@mrpyon3724 No? In the Odyssey Zeus did struck their ship down.

    • @mrpyon3724
      @mrpyon3724 День тому

      @@fbiuzz he did but they died in that way.

  • @dee2273
    @dee2273 2 дні тому +22

    The ending of thunder bringer though maaaannnn. The crew knowing they messed up and still tried to appeal to his humanity. Odysseus knowing there is no going back accepting the fate of his decisions as his very brothers curse at him trying to kill him… he floats there drowning literally in the weight of his decisions. Powerful stuff

  • @Amaratsu-DD5
    @Amaratsu-DD5 2 дні тому +59

    One man attempts to save his men from the consequences of their own actions.

  • @cookieoppressor9700
    @cookieoppressor9700 2 дні тому +26

    Okay props to the person that made the segment where Scylla attacks. That was downright terrifying

  • @userunknown8830
    @userunknown8830 2 дні тому +32

    Okay, so I was relistening to Scylla and Mutiny on Spotify, and something that barely even registered but now looking back on it is amazing because the last time they manage their “Full Speed Ahead” motif cohesively was before Odysseus sacrificed six of his men, but after they start trying to row away from the island after killing the cow It's like the men are trying to perform the "Full Speed Ahead" motif, but unlike before when they were all together, now it's completely disorganized and frantic, especially with Odysseus yelling "FASTER" really sounding like he was just screaming at them instead of giving orders in the background. Gives me the vibe of them no longer obeying him from respect, but pure panic, hence while they're all disorganized and everything feels incredibly off rhythm.
    I also like the detail that Eurylocus has always been backed up by the crew, but even now in Mutiny when he led the crew to overthrow Odysseus, sure they stabbed him and knocked him out, but the second the stakes were raised, they immediately fell into line desperately trying to follow Odysseus with Eurylocus not even fighting because even after they rose their Mutiny, he was still their “Captain” not Eurylocus!

    • @thetombengskiddos6903
      @thetombengskiddos6903 День тому +8

      another thing: after hearing how paniced Odysseus is, Eurylochus immediately defaults to calling him "Captain" again. it's like he's been calling him "Captain" for so long its just drilled into his mind

  • @bopqw1055
    @bopqw1055 2 дні тому +172

    a lot of people want to talk about Eurylochus vs Odysseus parts to play so lets list the problems and effects
    Eurylochus 8 ish in total: 1). being second in command is in charge of moral and food stores like a quartermaster on a ship. so running out of food 2 times is on him.
    2.)the cyclops killing them because he shot the sheep first instead of waiting and asking questions like Odysseus, 3.) opening the bag leading to the rest of the whole story, 558 men because of disobeying orders, 4.) betraying Odysseus after specifically being told to trust him and not start a mutiny in "luck runs out". 5.) by opening the bag causing the trip to take years of extra sailing making it so Odysseus cant see his mom in time.6.) attempting to abandon the crew to Circe. 7.) starting a mutiny. 8.) killing the cows directly protected by the sun god (even after the cyclops incident)
    Odysseus 1-3.5: 1.) yelling at athena divine mentors are really nice. 1.5-2.) doxxing himself to the cyclops[ possible .5 due to him mitigating those consequences multiple times]. 3.) the Scylla lair
    Eurylochus is the reason for almost every bad thing that happened.

    • @smiklosovic8971
      @smiklosovic8971 2 дні тому +58

      Something worth mentioning as well is that in most of those cases, the outcomes were unpredictable. They didn't know how they would end or how many lives would be lost. The tipping point for the mutiny was that in Scylla's lair, Odysseus DID know exactly what would happen and didn't just allow it, but planned it intentionally. It wasn't just the unfortunate loss of six men; it was literally human sacrifice.

    • @user-ps5ip7le5j
      @user-ps5ip7le5j 2 дні тому +27

      *557 men one guy died because he got drunk and fell off circe's palace roof

    • @Mapple318
      @Mapple318 2 дні тому +10

      ​@@smiklosovic8971true, but he did it in the attempt to get everyone else home safely (i hope)
      It doesnt excuse his sacrifice, but still good to mention.

    • @alanplays2881
      @alanplays2881 2 дні тому +9

      Odysseus is the one who shot the sheep in Polyphemus

    • @smiklosovic8971
      @smiklosovic8971 2 дні тому +30

      @Mapple318 Likely no, unfortunately. Everything in this saga is pointing to otherwise. From scylla singing "deep down we only care for ourselves" (at the same time that Odysseus gives the command that will doom 6 of his men) to in thunderbringer him literally choosing his own desire to get home over the lives of all the remaining crew. He didn't WANT any of his men to die, but when it comes down to them or him, they're expendable. It was worth the lives of all 600 of them for the CHANCE of getting back.
      In the underworld saga we were lulled into the impression that to become a monster was to become a ruthless protector; that Odysseus would destroy any threat to his crew, or "team" no matter how cruel. What really happened that maybe even he didn't realize yet, was that he effectively became his own team. It was no longer Odysseus and his crew vs anything that stood in their way; it instead became Odysseus alone vs anything that stood in his way, including his own men and friends. To become a monster is not as honorable as we initially hoped.

  • @rociohotaru3725
    @rociohotaru3725 2 дні тому +48

    I was like (not knowing the story that well) "why do people say that Eurylochus opened the bag? He was very afraid of the Gods' intention so he wouldn't do something so stupid, right?" Oh well...

    • @leejihoom4543
      @leejihoom4543 День тому +8

      honestly when eurylochus said he had something to confess at the beginning of puppeteer my dumbass was like “it sounds like he’s confessing his love lol” and then put no further thought into it so when eurylochus revealed he opened the bag i was like “WHAT??….nevermind that shouldn’t actually be surprising” 😅

    • @rociohotaru3725
      @rociohotaru3725 День тому +3

      @@leejihoom4543 Right? I never thought what could be what he wanted to confess until I saw theories and was like "nooo, it can't be, impossible" and when he said it, *GASP*... I knew it

  • @4welementender
    @4welementender  2 дні тому +111

    QUESION: Do you all want the entire thing? Like the entire livestream or just individual sagas from the livestream? I have the entire clip from the Livestream

  • @user-zc4xt1wl6i
    @user-zc4xt1wl6i 2 дні тому +57

    I’m going to be honest it was a headcannon that elpenor was the one who opened the bag just bc it would be funny, at least until it was revealed that eurelecous (I can’t spell) opened it

  • @FrizzyPlus.20
    @FrizzyPlus.20 2 дні тому +26

    I love the fact that the community accepted the fact that Eurylochus has giant Claymore, while Odysseus just has a tiny sword. Since the mutiny snippet!

    • @wrongbodyrightsoul
      @wrongbodyrightsoul 2 дні тому +5

      i think jay confirmed it actually!! idk where but i remember something about eurylochus canonically having this giant greatsword

    • @kalisyt5823
      @kalisyt5823 День тому +1

      ​@@wrongbodyrightsoulIn a video from 2 months ago about easter eggs in Epic, yeah it's canon

  • @Nitsirk301
    @Nitsirk301 2 дні тому +42

    You're such a lifesaver, I missed the stream (because timezones suck and I was asleep) and I really appreciate the snippets of extra context!

  • @mrnoname5183
    @mrnoname5183 2 дні тому +12

    Haha, i like that he eventually went with 12 years or so. Because he messed up the head cannon years in the Circe song. So now he’s not exactly sure how long he’s been out at sea, which really adds to his desperation.

  • @amyhurst3629
    @amyhurst3629 2 дні тому +12

    So glad to find this with the original animations AND lyrics visible on screen, really clears up some questions from the official videos. 😅

  • @HH-lo7jw
    @HH-lo7jw 2 дні тому +21

    If Odysseus hadn't sacrificed 6 men, his entire crew would have been lost either way.

  • @candlestickcaleb2806
    @candlestickcaleb2806 2 дні тому +23

    Putting my 2 cents in here.
    People are quick to condemn the whole crew for their mistakes with the wind and cows, which is fair as they done goofed. However, Ody started all this by ignoring his mentor (goddess of wisdom) and in his pride doxxed himself. Adding on the fact that he didnt even try to figure out how to deal with scylla and just decided that sacrificing 6 men was worth it. Eurylochus was right in his callout, Ody is quick witted and used to value his crew. He quickly came up with the plan to drug the cyclops and followed up with the poke his eye out plan. He came up with the trojan horse and the battle plan for troy. He was willing to head to circe knowing the odds were impossible to win. He even used his wits against poseidon. However when faced with scylla he made no effort beyond "light 6 torches."
    Also love the irony of him singing in Monster how he might he feels responsible for the death of his crew so far with his mercy, so he just outright kills 6 by choice.

    • @purplebaggyboi
      @purplebaggyboi 2 дні тому +3

      To be fair. On how they made Sylla, what was ody supposed to do? He knew from suffering that they needed sacrifices. If they fight, theyd probably losr more men than sacrificing.

    • @candlestickcaleb2806
      @candlestickcaleb2806 2 дні тому +4

      @@purplebaggyboi I fully get that there may have been no other choice, but what gets me is he doesn't even try to find a way to save his men. He was fine with walking to confront circe knowing he probably couldn't win but still had to try. I love the character growth even if it's to show him becoming more ruthless. I still think Eury is the primary problem, just wanted to pop off on Odysseus.
      As a bonus thought, I did wonder why they didn't just use the captured sirens as sacrifice if Ody knew they would need 6 sacrifices? Figured if you tied torches to them, they might have worked as the 6 needed.

    • @soulbound2
      @soulbound2 День тому

      ​@@purplebaggyboiWell he has a pod of paralyzed syren I'm sure skila likes sushi

  • @wielderofspoons
    @wielderofspoons 2 дні тому +9

    Thank you souch for capturing this. Seeing it live with the animetics made it punch even more. It was amazing! Im glad others will get to experience it too.

  • @ChaosQueen1575
    @ChaosQueen1575 День тому +8

    0:00 Suffering
    2:33 Different Beast
    6:03 Scylla
    9:04 Mutiny
    13:55 Thunder Bringer
    Hope this helped!😊

  • @azazelreeds
    @azazelreeds День тому +4

    Zeus's big number being so focused on himself for most of it is honestly so in character for him

  • @Imgonnaboopyou
    @Imgonnaboopyou 2 дні тому +7

    Imagine if eurylocus asked why he wanted specifically six torches 😭😭

  • @Tomy_Lightning
    @Tomy_Lightning 2 дні тому +25

    There were 4 options go in a way where Poseidon awaits, charybdis (which is almost certain doom) and two options with Scylla sacrifice or get the entire rest of fleet killed.

    • @wrongbodyrightsoul
      @wrongbodyrightsoul 2 дні тому +4

      i think ody does actually stumble upon charybdis later! at least in the unreleased song lineup, there's one called "charybdis" so i'd assume he meets her.

    • @Tomy_Lightning
      @Tomy_Lightning День тому +2

      @@wrongbodyrightsoul yes, but if he went there with what was left of his crew, they wouldn't have made it.

  • @denisnaruto8443
    @denisnaruto8443 3 дні тому +158

    Ok, i am on ody's side, the crew deserved it, they killed the cattle, not ody, and they litterally stabbed him, after EURYLOCHUS started the battle, they punished ody because eury started a fight, ody doesnt deserve to be killed, he didnt do anything, he didnt want a fight, and he git stabbed, even tough he was clearly winning a fight that he didnt start, its not his fault

    • @Orange-juice12
      @Orange-juice12 2 дні тому +38

      I'm guessing Eurylocus wasn't the only one mad about losing 6 crewmates

    • @Reaperwarth95
      @Reaperwarth95 2 дні тому +44

      Please don't forget that Eurylochus took the wind bag from Odysseus the same bag that help them get home if them not open it, but noo Eurylochus have to take it and open the bag end up killed 550 men from Poseidon

    • @KyleElitePlays1
      @KyleElitePlays1 2 дні тому +32

      ​@@Reaperwarth95 550, not 552. Poseidon sank 11 ships with 50 each.
      558 was mentioned in the underworld because 7 died against Polyphemus, 550 from Poseidon, and Elpenor fell off Circe's roof, and nobody remembered him.

    • @garretthildebrandt428
      @garretthildebrandt428 2 дні тому +44

      Not only that, Eurylochus has been antagonistic from the start! Always questioning Ody, he wanted to leave their men to Circe, he opened the wind bag, and now the cattle. And he has the temerity to blame Odysseus for their suffering.

    • @Reaperwarth95
      @Reaperwarth95 2 дні тому +3

      @@KyleElitePlays1 my bad thank you for the info I will fix my comment

  • @sammich_uwu
    @sammich_uwu 2 дні тому +13

    Ah thanks for the reupload! I had wanted to check if the animatics really had scylla go after the torches. makes you realize ody was really trying to kill eury

  • @AryannaPabilona
    @AryannaPabilona 2 дні тому +22

    Huhu thank you so much for this, I wasn't available when it went live and now its seems the live was privated😅

  • @whitehairedbadass3475
    @whitehairedbadass3475 День тому +5

    I don't know the lore of scilla, but its my headcannon that she wasn't distracted by the torches, she just accepted the sacrifices. She sings her song knowing that to pass her lair safely people have to sacrifice or risk losing the whole ship.
    Edit: now i know the lore and ill just accept that as what happens in this musical. In the original there were other things that helped them to only sacrifice six men. She would have just devoured the whole crew anyway.

  • @garretthildebrandt428
    @garretthildebrandt428 2 дні тому +40

    17:05- That’s Wolfy’s animation!! Have they been working on an animatic??

    • @just-flower-dec7
      @just-flower-dec7 2 дні тому +37

      That's not wolfy. It's Anniflamma's part. You may know her for amazing Ruthlessness animatic where Poseidon looks like a horse

    • @questworldiangreenknight7455
      @questworldiangreenknight7455 2 дні тому +1

      @@just-flower-dec7that’s what I was thinking.

    • @garretthildebrandt428
      @garretthildebrandt428 2 дні тому +1

      @@just-flower-dec7 Thanks! I knew it looked familiar!!

  • @arturoa.4941
    @arturoa.4941 2 дні тому +6

    Thank you for uploading this. I love the animation for Thunder Bringer 😢

  • @saphyrus1486
    @saphyrus1486 2 дні тому +3

    i just love that theres text to tell us whats happening in between songs and lyrics THANK YOU for recording the stream

  • @4welementender
    @4welementender  3 дні тому +145

    Ok to everyone the credits are in the description 🎉❤
    THE THUNDER SAGA ALL 5 SONGS IN ORDER WITH LYRICS ⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️
    1) SUFFERING 🌊
    2) DIFFERENT BEAST 🧜‍♀️
    3) SCYLLA ⚕️
    4) MUTINY 🔪
    5) THUNDER BRINGER ⚡️
    The last stand of Odysseus’ crew ends today…
    ALL RIGHTS ARE TO EPIC THE MUSICAL NOT ME

    • @LnightwingR
      @LnightwingR 2 дні тому +2

      Do you have the new Troy and Cyclops sagas from the stream as well by any chance???

    • @4welementender
      @4welementender  2 дні тому +4

      @@LnightwingRyes I’m currently uploading the entire video of the stream that I have on this channel, it might take a while tho

    • @LnightwingR
      @LnightwingR 2 дні тому +1

      @@4welementender That’s awesome, thanks a lot

  • @eff-jay8188
    @eff-jay8188 День тому +3

    The look of "Oh we're so fucked" on Odysseus and Eurylocus's faces when Zeus arrived was priceless😅

  • @fluffycat2728
    @fluffycat2728 2 дні тому +8

    The live was great and yeah I wish he posted them! I want the whole live to rewatch 😭

  • @st4rgirl_77
    @st4rgirl_77 2 дні тому +27

    The fact that ody was willing to kill eury not 1 or 2, but 3 times is so sad. Firstly with the torches in Scylla, later in their fight in mutiny, and finally in Thunder Bringer, where he finally killed him and the rest of his crew

    • @ritajitpal
      @ritajitpal 2 дні тому +4

      First, he asked Eury to light up 6 torches, not for him to hold one... he never specified anyone to hold the torch as he didn't want to be the one to make the desicion... second, in the mutiny, it was Ody defending himself and supreesing the betrayal, what do u expect??

    • @RestExalted
      @RestExalted 2 дні тому +3

      To be fair. Eury litterally confessed that he caused MOST OF THE PAIN in the entire story. The sheep. The bag. THE BETRAYAL And the cattle. Eury did SO MUCH damage without knowing and probably would've caused more as Oddy thought.
      He litterally brought this upon himself with his hubris

    • @st4rgirl_77
      @st4rgirl_77 2 дні тому +2

      @@ritajitpal in the official animatic u can see that eury was holding a torch almost all the time, so indirectly they are telling the plans of ody

    • @st4rgirl_77
      @st4rgirl_77 2 дні тому

      @@RestExalted ik but its kinda sad

    • @bahnankhayre9534
      @bahnankhayre9534 2 дні тому +2

      @@RestExaltedthe sheep was actually Odysseus though, so that one’s on him. The bag was a ginormous fumble though.

  • @XSweetCherryBlossomX
    @XSweetCherryBlossomX 2 дні тому +4

    This one truly BROKE ME

  • @Rraf_cookie
    @Rraf_cookie 2 дні тому +4

    Bro thanks I was looking for the small animatic clips everywhere and finally found them!

  • @Adrianacopycat
    @Adrianacopycat 2 дні тому +12

    11:58
    ODY!!! EURYLOCHUS CALLED HIM ODY!!!!

    • @S-kj8jt
      @S-kj8jt 2 дні тому +3

      Yeah that broke my heart 😢

    • @Adrianacopycat
      @Adrianacopycat 2 дні тому +1

      @@S-kj8jt
      rhe nickname given from the fandom is now canon!
      spelled that wrong

  • @noodle1299
    @noodle1299 День тому +2

    THAT ANIMATION FOR SCYLLA IS SO DAMN GOOD AND TERRIFYING!! I love it :D

  • @EmmanuelLYS
    @EmmanuelLYS 2 дні тому +8

    I always thought that odysseus getting betrayed by his crew was his crew held him so erylochus could stab him.

  • @SchariacIvy
    @SchariacIvy 2 дні тому +41

    OMFG EURYLOCHUS CANT STOP CAUSING A TROUBLE FOR EVEN ONE SONG

    • @st4rgirl_77
      @st4rgirl_77 2 дні тому +4

      what? ody literally sacrified six men, he knew what was going to happen. In fact, he tried killing eury when he told him to light up the torches. They both did things wrong, but, unlike ody, eury didn't know what would happen when he opened the bag, etc. Ody was always conscious of the consequences and still did the things he did, so I think that is such nonsense saying that eury cant stop causing trouble

    • @SchariacIvy
      @SchariacIvy 2 дні тому +4

      @@st4rgirl_77 The fact that he did it without knowing he was gonna cause trouble doesnt change the fact that he caused trouble. Odysseus did wrong things too but it was for most of them to stay alive, they got mad at Ody for being nice, then they got mad at him because he was cruel and made things worse, even though odysseus handled such hard situations in the best way he could he just couldnt trust him and blamed him which caused the zeus thing so i dont really like him

    • @MelianLimGachaVideos
      @MelianLimGachaVideos 2 дні тому +6

      @@st4rgirl_77 Here's the thing, all of them would've been to Ithaca by now if Eury didn't GODDAMN open the bag. Poseidon couldn't do anything to them in the ocean without the winds as Aeolus is the God of the Wind. And Poseidon couldn't drown Ithaca because FATE wouldn't allow him. But of course, Eury just had to open the bag. Odysseus' hubris of telling his name to Polyphemus wouldn't matter, and he wouldn't have even doxxed himself if Athena hadn't intervene and told him to kill it. Ody was beginning to run back to the ship. Then again, Ody and his crew wouldn't be in this situation if GODDAMN Aphrodite and Paris didn't start a pointless war over a woman.

  • @justanotherguy6421
    @justanotherguy6421 2 дні тому +32

    Let me just...*adds to playlist of Epic stuff to show friends*

  • @adrianalbn0361
    @adrianalbn0361 День тому +2

    Thank you so much for posting this!! I missed the live stream and couldn’t find it anywhere :(

  • @prenstr9560
    @prenstr9560 2 дні тому +14

    i was waiting to someone post the livestream

  • @maylanster
    @maylanster 2 дні тому +11

    i was finding the thunder saga and this was the only video i saw
    thx so muchh

  • @elijahquipse5879
    @elijahquipse5879 2 дні тому +3

    YES! THANK YOU

  • @saphyrus1486
    @saphyrus1486 2 дні тому +2

    Thank you!!!!

  • @malenejensen02
    @malenejensen02 2 дні тому +2

    You are a saint!

  • @--Bo--
    @--Bo-- 2 дні тому +1

    Thank youuu, i was watching the stream but it started at 3 am for me and fell asleep halfway through the circe saga :(

  • @hellboundchaoscommand7567
    @hellboundchaoscommand7567 2 дні тому +5

    My question is why didn’t they leave six of the sirens alive on the deck to be the sacrifices to Scylla

    • @mrpyon3724
      @mrpyon3724 2 дні тому +1

      Siren are all knowing, they would first eat his hands before taking the torch.

  • @KyleElitePlays1
    @KyleElitePlays1 2 дні тому +14

    pov: u were at the livestream

  • @cheshiremadness8614
    @cheshiremadness8614 2 дні тому +5

    You would think they would at least take a moment to second guess killing a random group of animals after the sheep incident

  • @crystalkatsuka
    @crystalkatsuka 2 дні тому +6

    They stab him, tie him up then calls him ody 🖐️💀

  • @TwiggyShei
    @TwiggyShei День тому +1

    Zeus: EITHER you die or your crew dies.
    Odysseus: okay, i choose for you yo kill them.
    Zeus: "To Whom It May Concern..."

  • @nashtasoleil
    @nashtasoleil 3 дні тому +4

    Thank you ❤

  • @grungekitty77
    @grungekitty77 2 дні тому +1

    Thank you! Mom had to go to urgent care so I missed theblive stream and I desperately needed to know the stage directions! I had no idea how we went from Ody clearly getting stabbed so waking up and going "my head". Like was the first part of the song a dream sequence or...? Now I know!

  • @nome9038
    @nome9038 День тому +1

    Imagine just being on the crew and getting sacrificed when u did nothing

  • @whitehairedbadass3475
    @whitehairedbadass3475 День тому +2

    Eurylochus a real hypocrite when he wanted to leave the whole crew behind with Cerce.

  • @millypage7797
    @millypage7797 2 дні тому +10

    Does anyone have the entire stream available? Id love to have seen Jay and the whole thing. Because of timezones i wasn't able to watch 😢

  • @LandonDillman
    @LandonDillman 2 дні тому +2

    9:58 gigi slaying as always

  • @SchariacIvy
    @SchariacIvy 2 дні тому +8

    Odysseus losing his men whatever he does is so sad, nothing chances even if he greets the world with open arms nor become a monster, he sees the illusion of the ability to change his fate if he does the right thing, but nothing ever changes

  • @thelongpenguin5749
    @thelongpenguin5749 2 дні тому +2

    CREDIT IN THE DESCRIPTION DOES NOT JUSTIFY STEALING AN ENTIRE ALBUM

  • @user-hz5ej8pr2j
    @user-hz5ej8pr2j 2 дні тому +1

    I love Peney says oh no

  • @deadeye4047
    @deadeye4047 2 дні тому +3

    I LOVE this saga!!! The only thing I would change is to make Zeus look older, like in God of War 2 & 3. I love his design nonetheless, THUNDER BRINGER is the best song in the entire project thus far.

  • @kolealexander-we2dj
    @kolealexander-we2dj 3 дні тому +7

    Nice

  • @mischiefnation5675
    @mischiefnation5675 6 годин тому

    Eurylochus: Lets cut our losses and run leaving behind the kidnapped men for Circe.
    Also Eurylochus: YOU KNOWINGLY KILLED 6 MEN!? *Overthrows Odysseus*

  • @wibbly8011
    @wibbly8011 День тому +3

    My question is, did the crew think striking down Odysseus would save them (would it have?) or did they just want revenge for him being unwilling to die for them (you know after they opened the wind bag, stabbed him, and killed the cattle of the sun.)

    • @AzizGyan
      @AzizGyan День тому +1

      I blieve it was amixure of both plus the worry/uncertenty of what to do

  • @MilKing_DaughterOfPoseidon
    @MilKing_DaughterOfPoseidon 2 дні тому

    I couldn’t get to the livestream due to a family event and I just kinda had to imagine what had happened
    OMGS I WAS CORRECT ABOUT MOST OF THE STUFF-
    IM SO PROUD OF MYSELF LOL

  • @Cursedhaze
    @Cursedhaze 2 дні тому

    Had he listened to Athena in my goodbye all of this would have been essentially avoided. She warned him.

  • @dr.pinck_zlime
    @dr.pinck_zlime 2 дні тому +4

    dem this is groosem

  • @NateFaglie
    @NateFaglie 2 години тому

    I just realized that e man had a torch and handed it of not knowing it was a mark for who should die

  • @user-qj1hx3zz2g
    @user-qj1hx3zz2g 2 дні тому +4

    (I wrote this before watching the entire video) I’m sort of confused because it the second part of mutiny when they are on the sun gods island Ody said ‘if we kill his cattle, who knows what he’ll send’ or something like that, then after eurylochus stabs or shoots the cow, Ody says the cows were immortal

    • @alanplays2881
      @alanplays2881 2 дні тому +11

      Immortal and invulnerable are different things. They can live forever, but a mortal wound like a cut throat will still kill them

    • @midnightumbrmoon3644
      @midnightumbrmoon3644 2 дні тому +1

      Yeah what Alan said. Vampires, for example, are immortal but they can still be killed by certain items like wooden stakes and such.

    • @projectlim9105
      @projectlim9105 2 дні тому +1

      They're immortal and cannot die of old age and I'm assuming sickness even, they can exist for thousands of years and not once perish to natural conditions. However, if someone were to slay them, then they'll drop dead because that is the only thing that isn't a natural condition, the one thing that creates a disturbance in their otherwise peaceful life. Other people's intervention is a disturbance to the natural order of things, for which the cows don't take part in, because the natural order of things doesn't affect them, it's completely frozen for them

  • @rimzahzouhi2372
    @rimzahzouhi2372 2 дні тому +1

    16:21 dude who is next to the mustach guy looks so done for real 😂 as if he knows Odysseus choice already

  • @x.fantasy._.ashleyyea.x6160
    @x.fantasy._.ashleyyea.x6160 2 дні тому +3

    does anyone know where i can find all the animatics? they're awesome but it's a bit low quality here 😅

  • @Joqathan
    @Joqathan День тому

    I CANT WAIT FIR WISDOM SAGAAAAAA!!! I CANT WAIT FIR CALYPSO

  • @NateFaglie
    @NateFaglie 2 години тому

    I think that the reason he stayed still when the crew was attacking him in thunder bringer was because Zeus said he wouldn’t die to day

  • @ameliahilton604
    @ameliahilton604 2 дні тому +3

    Time Stamps :D
    Suffering 00:00
    Different Beast 2:32
    Scylla 6:03
    Mutiny 9:05
    Thunder Bringer 13:49

  • @OmnitrixIsDead
    @OmnitrixIsDead День тому

    not this part giving me chills- 4:46

  • @whitehairedbadass3475
    @whitehairedbadass3475 День тому +1

    Damn..so they killed the cows he told them not to, then expected him to sacrifice himself for them...after they already gave up on getting home?

  • @pegasusbs6237
    @pegasusbs6237 2 дні тому +1

    You might want to do a reaction & repost so that your under fair use & we don't loose those awesome animations!!

    • @4welementender
      @4welementender  2 дні тому +1

      I mean I made this for people who didn’t watch or want to rewatch Thunder saga live stream without interruptions hopefully, and the credits are in the descriptions

    • @pegasusbs6237
      @pegasusbs6237 2 дні тому

      @@4welementender absolutely!! I just mean jay intended it for stream only so he might copyright it without that added layer. I do really enjoy it tho as I wish the stream was public 😭😭
      Best luck to you 🤞🤞

  • @CheRockle
    @CheRockle 2 дні тому +1

    Oop- I thought this was illegal ;-;

  • @user-ml8xz5lk9i
    @user-ml8xz5lk9i 2 дні тому

    Pls i need someone with the storm saga part of the livestream theres one animatic I cant find that i rly liked in that part😭😭😭

  • @evers_claw
    @evers_claw 2 дні тому +1

    Does anyone know who did the animation at 7:57?? I can't see the full name in the corner, nor can I find it anywhere outside of this stream.

  • @Kocmoc911
    @Kocmoc911 2 дні тому

    The rise of 4W elements ender is beginning, silver play button?

  • @strongfish9198
    @strongfish9198 2 дні тому

    Thank you so much for posting this! Sadly, I missed the stream because it was at 4am where I am and my alarm didn't wake me 😭
    I was so sad, but thanks to the I got to see it ❤

  • @hello-lz4xj
    @hello-lz4xj 2 дні тому +1

    I love you 🙏

  • @alphasaiyanrex1616
    @alphasaiyanrex1616 4 години тому

    I can’t be the only one who wants Sh figuarts or Mafex or Amazing Yamaguchi to make a figure of that Version of Zeus 14:05
    Edit: I know it’s most likely impossible but still

  • @LexitaMai
    @LexitaMai 2 дні тому

    Does anyone know where to find the animations? 👀

  • @H4UNT3D_F3RN
    @H4UNT3D_F3RN 2 дні тому +4

    Hello! As a reminder, recording the livestream was a violation of copyright law. If Jorge chooses not to release it, having it or distributing it is a violation. By viewing or promoting a recorded version of the stream, you are being complicit in an illegal activity.
    As phrased by an EPIC Discord Moderator herself /info