I love how the prisoner clearly never thought about it. He's even surprised that he's suspected to do something like this. You can see that the fact that this man isn't treated as a criminal he doesn't even think about being one.
Interviewer: "You could break off the legs of the table and use as a club." German prisoner: "Please leave my table alone or I have to call the guard. D:"
What is this, why am I hearing news media twitter trolls and Ben Shapiros voice in my head screaming "SOCIALISM † COMMUNISM †" right now? Apparently the neo liberal free market wants bad prisons
Just to destroy your thoughts a bit... they even make profit. They try to make as much as possible by themselves. So one prison facility cooks for all prisons an other one backes bread, but they also make bread to sell. there are laundry facilities. they do all the laundry for other prisons but also wash clothes for outside factories or hotels.
Doesn't work with everyone, yeah there are people in prison who honest to God were in a rough patch in their life and made mistake due to their circumstances, but there are people put there that are pure evil
@@Error-7-0-7 the pure evil ones (if they even exist at all) are only a tiny fraction of the inmates in european prisons and an even tinier percentage in the US, since there are so many people locked up there who would never even end up in prison for the same crimes here.
@@Error-7-0-7 No one is pure evil. The closest thing to evil is a psychopath (or someone with a similar mental disorder causing a lack of empathy and sympathy), but even with those people, they're not pure evil because most of them don't understand what they're doing which is why they are considered a psychopath in the first place. Anyone that has a reason (any sane reason) is not evil, maybe damaged or broken, but not evil.
one thing they didn't mention is that normally in Germany the long term sentences are not together with the short term ones. We have prisons for 6 months to 5 years and 5+ years up. We don't want them to learn how to be a better and harder criminal. If you are sentenced as a minor (under 21) we also have special prisons so they don't get in contact with the more hardened criminals.
@@Maddinhpws even Kids under The age of 14 are going to life and sometimes even on death row. There is no minimum age of 14 for prosecution in the U.S.
@@elpresley Yes what I mean is, courts can decide whenever they want to prosecute a minor not as a minor but as an adult. I mean there was literally the case of someone who was prosecuted as an adult for drinking as a minor.
yeah but American prisons are like that because gang members are in prison while in EU gangs run wild and ordinary citizens are arrested more than the gang members.
Yep. Same here. There are a lot of reasons to feel down about the state of the country and it think that the prison system of effective but the victims are left out of the calculation. A little bit of "punishment" seems fair to me. A short period where they have tu suffer under lesser cicumstances and rehibilitation after that.
@@madeyeloony2047 Da können immerhin auch die Amerikaner mitlesen :D Ich finde aber, dass Bestrafung ein Bestandteil sein muss. Reintegration ist wichtig und kostengünstiger aber gerade bei Mord muss auch auf objektiver Ebene Verlegung geübt werden.
The German system has a high incentive to rehabilitate because the prisons are paid for by the taxpayers. In the US prisons are also paid for by the taxpayers, but they're run by private companies, so the incentive is simply to have more prisoners. More prisoners = more profits. Hence the corruption and the high incarceration rate.
for us in Germany that's normal, we now that that so exists and it's all caused by the law *die würde des Menschen ist unantastbar* for all it's like, nobody would like it, if you are on the wrong path, but everyone even the government cares about you and would help you to get normal again. even the kids! we get Programs in school and more. all to make sure that the kids are going to be okay.
Right, what people dont know, is, that there is a imprisonment lobby.. Also the almighty military lobby wants to sell weapons and stuff to police and prisons, so they have to insure that the laws and decisions that are made cause more and more crimes and violence, plus give the people the impression that it does. Sounds unbelievable - but thats the truth since the USA is ruled by companies.
That doesn't make sense. Are those private companies somehow eliminating the incentive for citizens to stop this accumulation of prisoners? Why do their desires remove the desires of citizens? If the German government moved to having private contractors handle their prisoners, would people suddenly stop caring about paying taxes to pay for the increased prison population?
@@Mr_Keksi We need to import your and Dutchs punitive system to Israel. Here, the prisons are being overcrowded for years. Human dignity?? - Only on A4.
I visited a German prison some months ago. If you're young, you can finish school there and if you don't have a job, you can learn how to become a carpenter, a chef, a hairstylist, etc. It's the "Ausbildung". If you pass the test, you can work in that job afterward and can earn money in a legal way, and against aggression they have meetings and psychologists and therapists. But if you are too dangerous, you might never get out. I asked how often people did not return when they have earned a day out. Answer: Never.
I remember that one time some guy called at a popular german late night tv show called "domian" where the host talks with random people about their problems etc. The guy was a prisoner who got his day out and he decided not to return. At the point of the phone call he was already on the run for some weeks and he had nowhere to go. He had enough money but he coldn't go to friends and family and he couldn't get a hotel room because he would need to have his ID card for that. Basically if one decides to flee its only a matter of time until he returns to prison on his own.
@@0TurnAround0 Yes, beeing on the run is somewhat worse than beeing in the prison in germany. What is also not mentioned is, that you get the leave mostly later during the sentence.
@Theodor Stark "escaping a prison is not a crime in Germany. If you're on prison leave and you do not return, you will not face a trial. " Yes, but you are going to loose privileges earned, and being released early for "good behavior" becomes very unlikely ... So you are punished for it in a way, it is just not an additional sentence ...
@@hartmutholzgraefe Well yes. You didnt follow a rule. Its not directly punishable as its not a crime but it puts you further behind when it gets to having more freedom (going outside, shorter sentence). What will be punished though is destroying stuff on the way out. So for example if you cut open the door of your cell that is a crime as you destroyed property and have to pay for it.
Tabletop Troll Thats only theoretically. Practically, the Basic law (Grundgesetz) is considered as the constitution. Otherwise, a Federal Court of Constitution wouldnt make any sense ...
@Tabletop Troll well they did not call it constitution because germany was at the time seperated and the grundgesetz (wich is the german constitution) was thought to be temporary until germany was reunited again. They just did not change it upon reunification i guess because the grundgesetz worked out pretty well und there was no wish to change it.
There were two articles which said how to act when Germany gets reunited. One (124) said they have to write a new constitution. The other one (forgot the number) said that they can adapt the Grundgesetz (basic law) as a constitution. The chose the second one because when Germany reunited they didn't build a new country but the DDR was made to a part of the BRD (Bundes Republik Deutschland) and everyone was happy with the Grundgesetz. It worked. So why should they change it? I hope this makes it clear. And I'm sorry for my English.
@@kunstro Well, it _is_ still a flaw to the German Constitution that it never was approved by the German People. It may be just a symbolic formality, but we humans live by symbols and formalities.
well i guess since prisons in germany are not private money makers but owned by the state the prisons have no interest in keeping a crimminal a crimminal
In general we don't have interest in that. Even if we sound harsh or unfriendly, we still care. And even more about people who did wrong. We like to prove that we can do better than that and often, we do
@@versnagt1995 Uhm ... no, not everybody is blinded with nationalism here! Even though there are nationalists, unfortunately, but I think every country suffers from that problem! Still, NOT EVERYBODY is nationalist in Germany. For the majority of germans it is a shame to be nationalist. And I think probably our education system is not perfect, but it's not "kinda muh" (whatever that means). I'm sure american education system isn't perfect, either. Please get yourself informed before you comment. Thanks.
Can't remember where the quote is from but I recall something like "You can tell how civilized a society is by looking at how they treat their problematic individuals - prisons and mental institutions."
"The degree of civilization in a society can be judged by entering its prisons" - Fjodr Dostojewski PS: He was a prisoner himself once upon a time. Can't remember whatfore though.
for us in Germany that's normal, we now that that so exists and it's all caused by the law *die würde des Menschen ist unantastbar* for all it's like, nobody would like it, if you are on the wrong path, but everyone even the government cares about you and would help you to get normal again. even the kids! we get Programs in school and more. all to make sure that the kids are going to be okay.
@@notthere83 The same counts for how the society treats their animals and their high-maintenance people. And when it comes to that, Germany is really not good in doing that
@@karlgrylls2406 how do you mean this? Ich denk mal du bist deutscher, deswegen hier in deutsch: Inwiefern werden Gefährder und "Tiere" vom Staat nicht hart genug rangenommen?
Fun Fact: The german police is not allowed to shoot others without being threatened or shot with a gun. To prevent unessecary deaths. The more you know
Strayfox not only aggressive ones. They also shoot them when they have to be quick and cant allow the dog to slow them down. I know some guys and it happened to them.
@@wcstevens7 Exactly, meaning you aren't able to see your family and friends that often. I think that alone is punishment enough, you don't have to be tormented on top of that. Edit: Tormented meaning bad inmates and guards.
And in most cases, it makes people a better person. They have to do their job, earn money for it and have to spend it on themselves (groceries, new clothes, etc). Learning the importance of having a regular income paired up with therapy is the most important part of that rehabilitation.
CrazyCircles1 Agree, criminalisation largely (aside from high level corruption) exists in US & Aust & UK in areas of family & economic trauma, prison echoes this lack of civillisation.
Seh ich nicht so. Straftäter, die durch Mord, Vergewaltigung, schwerste Körperverletzung oder Raub das Leben eines anderen zerstört haben geben ja auch nichts auf das Grundgesetz. Warum sollte das Grundgesetz, wovon die Straftäter ja offensichtlich nichts halten, dann für die Straftäter gelten? Mörder, Kinderschänder und Wiederholungstäter, die nicht aus ihren Fehlern lernen sollten hingerichtet werden oder zumindest für immer eingesperrt werden OHNE Aussicht auf Freilassung, da sie der Gesellschaft nur schaden. Fertig, aus. Hast du mal gesehen wie die Gefangenen in den USA reagieren, wenn ihnen im Gericht 50+ Jahre Gefängnis oder die Todesstrafe ausgesprochen wird? Die fangen an zu heulen wie kleine Babies und brechen zusammen weil sie realisieren, dass ihr Leben von nun an genauso zerstört ist wie das deren Opfer. In Deutschland lachen sich die Kinderschänder und Mörder in´s Fäustchen, wenn sie im Gericht 5 - 10 Jahre Gefängnis bekommen und danach wieder freie Menschen sein dürfen obwohl deren Opfer tot sind oder ihr Leben lang damit zu kämpfen haben. Die lächerlich geringen Strafen in Deutschland sind eine Beleidigung für die Opfer.
@@DonicMusik Damit müsse man eine Linie an einer bestimmten Stelle ziehen können. Ab wann ist eine Straftat wirklich so schlimm, dass man die Würde des Menschen aberkennt? - Es geht schwer.
@@DonicMusik lustigerweise ist mord durch die allgemeine handlungsfreiht sogar geschütz, aber natürlich aus verfassungsrechtliche hinsicht strafbar. eine erklärung für die verhältnismäßig milde strafe ist, dass es sich bei zb entführungen für den täter lohnen soll das opfer am leben zu lassen. Wer nichts zu verlieren hat, ist viel gefährlicher.
@@DonicMusik Und du willst sicherlich für die Mehrkosten aufkommen, die durch längere Haftzeiten entstehen würden. Immerhin hat der deutsche Staat auch nicht unendlich viel Kapital zur Verfügung, was bedeutet, dass die Mehrkosten vom Steuerzahler getragen werden müssten. Hinrichtung kommt nun einmal wegen unserem Grundgesetz nicht in Frage, da die Unantastbarkeit des Menschen auch Kriminelle einschließt, immerhin sind auch diese Menschen. Und ich persönlich könnte Hinrichtungen auch nicht akzeptieren. Wem willst du die Rolle des Henkers aufbürden? Du verdammst jemanden dazu Menschenleben zu beenden, etwas das keine Kosten kennt, da jeder Mensch einmalig ist und somit unersetzlich in seiner Gesamtheit.
Also fun is, that a german dorm is easily twice the size of that cell, if you even live in one and not in another rented apartement. On top of that a one person dorm costs 250-400€ per month, furnished. They are mostly a few kilometres away from Campus with easy access to the City, accessable with one tram/bus line, so no switching. Technically the cost to attend uni in NRW (a state) is 90€ per semester, the 210€ rest are for a public transport ticket for NRW and can be paid for by the uni if you currently have a really bad time and show that you are actively working on it. Some unis even allow for 0% loans if you really need some money, e.g. no support from family computer broke and you do graphics processing for CS, so you need a laptop/pc with a proper graphics card and CPU
My dad is US American, my mom is German, they got divorced when I was 6 years. My mom fought hard to take me with her back to Germany. When I was 17, I traveled back to the US for the summer to visit my dad. After having seen the US, I was happy and proud to be German. I thank my mom for fighting to take me with her.❤
@@artiew8718 Thanks for reminding us stupid Germans that we have a history no one is proud of. But i want to tell you, that we do our best recovering, doing better and never let things like this ever happen again. And to explain to you, he means that Germany does a good job in care for equal treatment, no matter where are you from, if you are poor or rich or which race you are. Schools and University are free, we have a good functioning health care system, our crime rate is low and we have a system that tries it best to support people who don't have a job or a home. So please try to let go of that stereotype that Germans are nazis and aggressive and hateful. We try our best to be different. P.S.: I'm sorry if there are any grammar or spelling mistakes. As you have maybe read english is not my mother tounge.
Keeping able bodied men 23h in a cell... and wondering about problems? There's really nothing that's not fundamentally wrong in the American prison system, is there?
@@MrCmon113 Well, I guess they get the mental crippling part right already. Time to make more money with some hunger games maybe? (Joking dead serious)
JUST read a job description for the Texas DOC: high school diploma, current drivers license, proof of immunizations, recent physical exam, criminal history, no work experience required. I was shocked! that's IT .. and i was NOT a direct hire with the DOC, it was through a subcontractor! Just unreal.
It's so weird, that I as a German asked myself: "Do they actually think being able to beat up people is enough requirement for an American prison guard/police officer?"
@@TerryReedMiss also.. why is a drivers license required? I think that wouldn't be a requirement in Germany. Since there is no need for driving in a prison, is there?
Well, it´s not quite like that. They are being kind of exploitet. In Germany there are more than 60,000 prisoners. A large part is obliged to work - usually at a fraction of the minimum wage. The prisoners do not pay into the pension fund, they are threatened with old age poverty. Moreover, the work in the prisons harms the competition outside the prisons. Profiteers are the federal states that run the prisons - as well as well-known corporations or their suppliers as clients.
12:25 Well it's technically not prison. He already did his sentence, but psychologists deem him very dangerous, so now he is locked up for crimes he didn't do. This difference is important, and the living conditions should be different from prison.
@@Manueelaa Yeah, and it can only be used on people who got a life sentence (which means "15 years + possibly this extension thing, if needed"). As far as I know, only murderers get those sentences, and only very few of them actually get their sentences extended.
@@faultier1158 And I do think that the Sicherungsverwahrung is a critically discussed topic in Germany. Currently there are 500 Men and one woman in Sicherungsverwahrung.
@Sascha Schröder Auf dem Papier gesehen verleitet P&P zu schwerwiegemden gewalttaten. Bzw. sagt mir mein SL. immer ich soll heute doch bitte keine Zivis umlegen xD
@Sascha Schröder In a Roleplay, you have a purpuse, I need to defeat the bad guy and I need a wepen, its logic to break of the tabel legl. Prisoner why do I want to destroy my dinner table, thats is illogical. Its not like a tabel legl will helpe my situation.
The first article of the German constitution states: "Human dignity shall be inviolable. To respect and protect it shall be the duty of all state authority." US prisons don't seem to leave a lot of space for human dignity.
I know that is the official translation of the 1.1st article of the constitution. Though I would translate it as "Human dignity IS inviolable.... I my mind it is always reads more like a statement of fact/truth instead of a commandment. Especially since the 2nd part of article 1 reads "Therefore the German people...". The "Therefore" relates to the fact/truth stated in the 1st part of the article. I wonder why it was translated like that. Maybe I lack the nuanced understanding of the English translation?
Calming down with yoga is very important. Yoga can also be used to prevent many types of diseases, so that treatment costs can be reduced. When it comes to saving costs, Germany is very efficient.
He just represents the American perspective. The Americans would probably ask the same stern questions he did so he did great. If you do an interview you also have to challenge your interview partner a little bit or else it's just a conversation between two people who agree with each other which is not something a person wants to see if the aim is that people challenge their own perspectives and opinions.
It's not "brainwashed" , he views most of it from the north american perspective. In the US prisons are famous for how bad they treat human beings, that's why they were in search of new kinds of rehabilitation practices like in germany. They also suffer from increasing corruption and crowded prisons, but Connecticut is a great start for example . Still, most US people are not familiar with european prison systems, hence the questioning.
@A. I. if he served prison for the rest of his life it wouldnt get anyone to anything. no one has a profit off of it. not the family, not the man. he cannot change what he has done. no one can. the only thing he can do is live a normal life, that would actually profit him and the society for example for jobs etc.
@A. I. the punishment for the murderer is the constant memory of the crime, it is the mental effect it has on you. it is the regret you feel. after a brutal prison camp this will not be regret anymore, that is why the american prison system is dangerous.
Funyn fact, for breaking out of prison there is no more jail time in germany, cause the right of personal freedom is in our base law. But if you break any laws on your way to do so, you get jailed for. ^^
It's not because of personal freedom, obviously the right to freedom is taken away when in prison. It's because the german supreme court (Bundesverfassungsgericht) acknowledged that the desire to be free is a basic human instinct. A similar guideline (leaning on a tradition going back millenia to the old testament/the jewish tanach; Dtn 23,25f) was made in the case of stealing food and drink in small amounts if it's necessary for your immediate survival (Mundraub). Although theoretically still a misdemeanor (therefore "guideline" and not a legally binding decision) it can only be enforced if the victim of the theft files a "Strafantrag" (which is different from a law suit) which basically never happens.
@@wurstkonig3621 and simply by getting a "Platzverweis" wich means if you steal your apple from Edeka and you get caught the manager of that market can say you are not allowed in that edeka anymore, meaning, if you go there anyway you are trespassing. For trespassing you can go to jail for up to a year or you have to pay a fine. Like Theft of things with small value you have to make a "Strafantrag" to enforce Trespassing
Pretty much like with drugs. It is legal to use them but not to own them. But to use them you need to own them. It is very hart to use drugs without owning and buying them before and even harder to proof in court.
@Yama Satru That doesnt really change anything. Im sure it would be still considered owning, its illegal either way. But if you were to use some stuff of someone else, someone hands you a joint, i guess you would get away with it. (Nobody would care anyway, normally)
2:37 Wrong question. The real question is: What would the inmate do if he didn't have a future for himself? Is that too hard to answer? Do you really think with no future the inmate would try to obey the law in future? Of course not. You can't make any human fear a prison enough to make him not commit any crimes despite having no future.
exactly!! if there is no hope, there is no way. I've heard way too many (American) inmates say that they are actually happy to be back in prison because at least they know there is food and a roof over their head. sounds extreme, but is reality!! there is little to no hope in American prisons so how do they expect inmates to do better in freedom after being locked up 23 hours a day for years??
It is actually sad, in comparsion to US. And it's funny at the same time, because he knows that even as ex-con, he still has a future to work for. Why would he run away from it, what a stupid question to even ask.. :D
Even if he escaped. Prison escape itself is not punishable over here in Germany. But that doesn't mean he wouldn't lose his privileges since they are only granted to him as long as he accepts their terms and conditions and follows the rules that come with those. But his original sentence couldn't be extended due to him escaping because then you'd make the pursuit of freedom illegal and that is against the constitution.
well, it is not that funny, because he wants to spend time with his family. And if he flees now, where does he go? Not to his family, because there is where they would look first....
@@boahneelassmal ok, just read the German Wikipedia article on that. The escape itself is not punishable in Germany (and Austria too), but they break in most cases other laws such as law against property damage, assault, resistance to law enforcement officers, etc. So that in fact then the escape will be punished.
@@derdrache487 in a very low crime (especially violent crimes) country the chances of losing loved one is a lot less than in the US! Also no very few (none) are going to get shot by steping on a lawn or by accident because someone plays with guns!
I had been to German prison for 18 month. The punishment I the loss of freedom, and if you spent time there, you think twice about committing crime. Our system is not perfect, and not all of our prisons look like the ones showed here, but it is way more helpful to treat people like people and not like animals...
@@kappalel1237 I guess that bro is probably a sis since Walküren (Valkyries) are female in Norse mythology, as far as I know. Please let us know the name of the books.
I love how shocked the interviewer is when the prison director tells him he thinks he deserves to have a prospect in life after he served his sentence.
6:15 Yes. We Germans like to think that we as a culture learned from the mistakes of the past. By the way, breaking out of prison isn't illegal in Germany -if you can break out of prison in such a way that you don't commit any further crimes (like damaging property, or attacking a guard) your sentence won't go up when you're caught again. There won't be an early release though, i suspect. And of course helping someone fleeing is still an offence.
since the right of freedom is a basic law here you cant be punished with a longer sentence for breaking out of prison. but all your "good time" gets cut once youre back. if our system didnt work we wouldnt use it.
@Make White People Proud Again Germany has 3rd world immigrants for over 60 years now, beginning in the year 1954. There are no significant differences in criminal statistics beween germans and immigrants after living for 5 years in germany. I was never victim to an immigrant but 2 times to proud white people, or Nazis; thats how we call them over here. Greeting from a 100% german.
I spent 36 months in prison with the feds for white collar fraud. That was a decade ago and since then I have very firmly established myself as a productive member of society who has never committed another crime. I can say that, without question, our criminal justice system and our culture does absolutely nothing to rehabilitate anyone. Our system and our people do not get any credit whatsoever for a formerly incarcerated person turning their life around. Those who get rehabilitated do it in spite of all that. If someone picks themselves back up after prison, ONLY that person (and perhaps that persons inner circle of friends and family) get the credit. The bottom line is our system of justice is a dramatic failure. We are effectively running crime factories in this country and all citizens are shareholders in these factories. The USA has some of the highest rates of crime, particularly violent crime in the entire world because of the incredibly immature way that our society chooses to deal with this issue and the people who do wrong. People need to be held accountable for running afoul of the law but what we are doing is insane and creates much worse problems.
Kevvy Kim You don’t know me brother. But my close friends and people I volunteer with in community (to help others) DO know me and they DO trust me. They know that I’ve learned from my mistakes. I constantly do the best I can to walk a good path, every single day. I’ve done that now for over a decade. If you’re a Christian or even philosophical or even choose to believe that life has any meaning at all then you’ll take to heart what Jesus taught regarding forgiveness and understanding. One thing he said in particular really stands out to me in that “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.....” so what that means is that everyone (including yourself) have made bad choices. Nowadays any determined prosecutor can take any of those bad choices you have made and turn them into prison sentences for you. What you said about Brazil, I’m not doubting you. I’ve heard there are some really horrible things going on there too and I want those things to stop also. This may sound cliche to you but I truly want the whole world to live in real community with each other where everyone is loved and cared for. So what I’m saying regarding this whole issue is that I know what I’m talking about when it comes to the “get tough on crime” prison system. It’s basically a war on you and me and everyone in society and it begins at the point of condemning anyone. That applies not just for the USA but EVERYWHERE. I’ve lived that experience and I’ve seen how it affects people and how it destroys families and society at large. If you truly want to live in a far safer world then it begins with re-examining our approach and method of dealing with this issue, otherwise things are only going to get much worse.
funguslicker Thank you 🙏 very much. Your kind words truly mean a lot to me. I think our culture in the USA has a whole lot to learn from your culture. You are much appreciated more than you may know as being an ambassador for your culture and sharing that wisdom with the rest of the world.
Also fun fact:If u try to escape u need to be naked... cuz if u take something from the prison with u to escape ur going to get charged for stealing😉🤝🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪
@@Robin93k Lol many of my cousins are in prison and they mostly have prison clothing.They can wear personal clothings if they are training or when its sleep time but not always
Das ist halt die deutsche Metalität. Wir haben es besser als die meisten Länder auf dieser Welt, beschweren uns aber trotzdem über alles. Meckern auf hohen Niveau halt.
Feels so good to see US look left and right. Many countries only look at their own way and think it's the only right thing to do. Learn from your neighbours, improve your country.
Yes that is a big step for America, Citizen love their country and have every right to do so. But always calling it the greatest country makes you blind, noone can be best in everything, so learning is the only option to get better.
@@juliusw2719 Trump got elected because the democratic party didn't have any good candidates for the election, Hillary was a terrible candidate and has lost the election several times before 2016, and the democrats decided to go with her for some reason. Trump has had a sub 40% approval rating for much of the time he's been in office, which isn't very much considering approval ratings for presidents go up to 70%+ when the economy is doing good like it is now. If you think Americans are self-absorbed I implore you to take a look at western Europeans and Canadians on the internet who think they're countries are absolutely perfect utopias.
@@machida58 He is a communist. He said that he will also increase taxes for the middle class. He will spent money until there's nothing left anymore. To tax the rich like 70 to 90% is stupid! They will just leave. Most socialist/communist countries have to build a wall around, so that the rich won't leave. BTW, Bernie is a big fat LIAR. We do not have one single socialist country in Europe. We have a free market economy /capitalism & some social programs.
I left the US 23 Years Ago, and will never return. There is no solution in the states, it is to late for that. you would need to reboot the minds of all Americans
@@cisco8257 I mean...it's gotten more expensive to renounce your citizenship and they tax you hard even if you're living abroad. I'm trying to move myself, it's just very, very expensive.
This kind of reminds me of John Rawls Philosophy. He argued something like: You can judge a country or system by considering how they treat the lowest/weakest members of society.
If you torture a prisoner out of revenge, meaning he will receive high amounts of violence, first this will worn out his psychic condition, he will probably break down or his desire for violence will increase even more. This is not how you rehabilitate people or keep society safe. When you try to abuse an abuser, how is this going to help anyone, he was violent in the first place and will not change by creating more violation for him.
Americans indoctrinated themselves into being tough in every aspect of life. You are tough on your criminals, you are tough on your regular citizens (no healthcare + absurd minimal wages/minimal living conditions), your police is tough, your gangs are tough, your army is tough, your presidents have tough speech, your corporate influence is tough and strong. But when everything is tough, what place is left for goodhearts and a relaxed life?
Having lived in the states as an exchange student, I also feel like parents are tougher on their children, too. I´m not advocating anti authoritarian education but my parents in Germany usually appealed to my conscience when I had done wrong while my Host parents in the states grounded me or "punished" me otherwise. I know which I liked better and I know which I´ll want for my children, too.
At the same time, Americans are also very entitled. In the sense that they see themself as very enlightenend with the best way of life in the world, being the most free nation with the best democracy.
@@TomOkkaTom The "grounding" thing is already very punitive. But there are parents today (2018 in the specific cases I know about) that sign permission slips to allow their children's teachers and I think also school administrators to *paddle* them. Even the "Child, you did this thing that you shouldn't have done, don't do that. Seriously, don't do that." approach is more effective than a lot of people in a lot of countries seem to think. Edit: The paddling thing takes place in the US, not Germany.
word to that. I sometimes wonder ... by now it's an open secret that the Military-Industrial Complex supports Hollywood movies with lots of stuff going Ka-bumm as long as the movie makes the military look good. So ... all those "but we can't tread murderers in a human way!!!!1!" comments and talking points. Coincidence? Or engineered?
US Americans often talk about freedom, and that freedom is the most important thing and how proud they are to live in a free country. I find it ironic that many Americans don’t seem to consider that taking away freedom from an offender is a huge punishment in itself. There is no need to punish them further by poor living conditions. Neither should the prison guards/correction officer punish people however they like. It should be up to the court to decide about the punishment, imo.
8:48 that is one thing, I as a German, especially regarding what is going on rn, have never understood. This weird obsession about race. What race? There literally is only one human race on the planet, the Neanderthals are dead, we're the last, and you Americans make "race" an issue. Just the concept of race alone sounds racist to me.
Don't forget that the concept of racism was coined in the European "motherland". You just don't get to see or experience as many racist incidents because the number of non-white European citizens is so small compared to the US. The race issue is a complicated one that isn't just about hatred towards people with a certain skin tone. It's about unconscious bias (white lady clutching her handbag when she sees a black teenager, police always assuming that the white person is telling the truth, the assumption that black men are inherently more dangerous as they tend to live in more impoverished and thus criminal neighborhoods which makes cops pull out their guns much quicker). If you can, I would recommend you to get some further information about racism in the US and in Germany from your local Black Lives Matter Chapter (in Berlin) on social media. You can also look up sources about those key words "school-to-prison pipeline", "gerrymandering", "redlining", "war on drugs" and how that disproportionately affected the black community, the history of "school busing" and how schools were then resegregated. Remember: if the number of visible minorities was higher in Germany, there would likely be just as much visible racism as in the US. Us Germans tend to present ourselves often as far superior to the United States, but in the end white supremacy doesn't stop once you've crossed the Atlantic Ocean.
@@joshina4497 Race is a sociological concept that needs to be used and be talked about as long as racial discrimination and racial bias exists. We won't eradicate racism by simply ignoring that race is a concept in the minds of almost every single person on earth. The human being is not really able to unlearn such categories as race, religion, culture once it has been learned. If you truly look at yourself you will find that you too hold opinions, assumptions and biases about race and that you have blind spots of ignorance towards members of other ethnicities. All people do. Unlearning them is a life long process :) but it's worth it.
Scientifically, you are quite correct, differences between races (for lack of a better term) are negligible at most in terms of biology. However, when the interviewer brings it up, he is pointing out a real factor in how well this may translate to the United states. Incarceration rates of black and latino people are astronomical. (A racism problem, not a race problem, to be clear) if we started to implement a prison system like the one depicted here, it is very likely that these lenient sentences and better conditions would favor white people like they already do in America. It would be tragic to see the divide of the treatment of prisoners based on race widened by this addition. Systemic racism in the american judicial system is rampant.
@@jmz1736 the whole justice system needs a root and branch reform from the cops, through the courts and the prisons, up to the legislature. But reform in each area should drive reform in the others. For example, if a state spends loads less on housing prisoners and can divert funds into, say, retraining the police, or education, then the taxpayers will vote cos they can see the benefit of their dollars. One of the biggest problems is the punishment mentality in the US. It means that the brutality of the prison system is justifiable because it is focused on the crime, not the person who did the crime. They don't matter at all, because if they are in prison, they must be guilty. And if they're guilty, they are no longer a person.
Its funny, because even though prisons are privat companys, there is no free market they are in. I think thats really important. Why should a company care for the lives of the people inprisoned? Its like a hotel but the customers aren't able to choose. Free market benefits from competition. So its not "socialism" to criticize prison as a private business, its just common sense. Additionally prisons benefit, if there is more crime, because the criminal is their resource to make money. If there is money in a business, there is a lobby. Plus they pay taxes, i guess. Plus, high prison rates are good for politicians because they "do something" against criminals and offer society a way to get "revenge". But in the end, only the companys and polititians benefit, while both the tax payer and criminal lose.
That’s completely wrong. I’m a retired teacher and a Republican. I know lots of Republicans. We care about helping people learn to become a good person. Democrats just want to turn people loose and think that is caring. I’d like to see real job skills taught in prisons and in high schools. I’d love to see these men (almost all of whom had no father in the home) be mentored by a good man. I love the ideas from other countries in this video.
@@MaryJF49 This is a joke which addresses the fact that it is common by Republicans, when something doesn't fit their perspective, to call it socialism or communism and a prison system focused on rehabilitation instead of punishment or revenge is not a typical Republican viewpoint. "Democrats just want people to turn loose" sounds like a really bad strawman of a Democrats position on this subject. When you and your fellow Republicans have an such avangardististic view on this topic, I appreciate it and hope your ideas get heard by other Republicans too.
@@pwenkojammy2894 no it isnt and thats why you ensure he will treat people that way in the future, locking him up for the rest of his life in a peison or sentencing him to deathrow will just cause dead inmates or even guards.
Can you imagine knowing that you will have to spend your entire life, without chance of release, in one of those cells? Where there's bars going out to a huge communal area and you have no privacy at all? Can we also talk about how the prisoner, who voluntarily have an interview, decided not to tell them his crimes and they then went to the administration to ask about them anyways? How disrespectful is that?
It's nowhere stated that they asked anyone else, just that German privacy laws prohibited it to find out. In the USA the criminal records are public, so you can check if your neighbor ever got in trouble with the law .
@@JohnPopcorn06 do you want that the Prisoners become a working member of Society, or do you want that they get out and are more dangerous than before? Because your statements seems really biased.
@@musiccer7446 it depends what kind of prisoners they are. i want to save those who we can, and lock away those who are no longer humans. but we also have to punish them. and it is not some "bloodthirsty reaction" from my part. justice is a complicated concept, but i believe it heavily depends on the notion of "making the victim and its family peace with the situation". if someone killed my parents in a car accident because the driver drank alcohol, i would want to make him pay (going to prison for years). and if we have to really choose, i value justice much more than that the prisoner to become a working member of society after his release.
Still everybody is afraid to go to prison because your life will be ruined if you go there once. You will never find a decent job again. It's more like a death sentence for career, relationship and time.
@PicogramCan you elaborate how their prison system works? As for Isolation, is a two edged sword. Some cannot bear to deal with their inner conflicts, while others come stronger and wiser out of it. And if you ask me, people should only be send into isolation, when they have been teached how to properly meditate (focus on feeling and accepting everything within you and outside consciously). Only then the true magic happens, when they apply shadow work in the isolation and thus resolve their inner conflicts and traumata in the process.
DevilTrigger ehh you need to backup that claim with evidence mate. Because that’s pretty absurd, and no it’s not a death sentence to your career unless that career was in the police or correctional system. It also depends on what a person has been convicted of? Because it’s normal to provide a “straffe attest” that is a record of convictions. And there are different kind of records but your convictions on the record also has a expiration date from which will be deleted from your record 12 years I think. But I’m looking forward to your evidence stating that the Nordic system has a higher rate of suicide than others
"Be smart on crime" instead of "be tough on crime" - I like the ring of that. Maybe the U.S.Americans will one day realize that a criminal is a "malfunctioning" human being. But if you have a malfunction, punishment will make it worse, so you don't punish, you _repair._ That's the smart way.
@@davidcook680 - ever heard of Anders Breivik? He is locked up in _Norway,_ a country with one of the most humane prison systems in the world, but given his … interesting state of mind … it is very unlikely that he ever will make another step in his life as a free man. There are a few people who are “beyond repair”, who _cannot_ be rehabilitated and then released, no matter what we try. Everybody else - you can function as a productive member of society, so do just that.
@@imamessbutitsfine2377 US Privacy laws are non existent compared to German ones and I find it funny that they still tried, despite him clearly refusing. Nosy.
Here in Germany most people who get locked up in "preventive detention" committed severe sexual crimes (multiple or extreme rapes etc) or something else you could just describe as madness. So in a nutshell: people who really have a high level mental disorder get locked up there (so basically impossible to rehabilitate). They still get psychological treatment and it is checked on a regular basis if the person is still dangerous for society. So you can have a good guess on what he did ;)
@@semiramisubw4864 Yes it's not illegal, only if you commit crimes during the escape. If you just escape without doing anything like kidnapping or destroying stuff you are perfectly fine.
Treat humans like humans and they might become humans. Criminals are not born as "evil" criminals they are socialized to become criminals. Greetings from Germany. ;)
The inmates of our local prison always make decorations for the kindergartens at Easter and Christmas. There is an art group that takes part in the annual exhibition in the town hall and sells paintings and sculptures. Sometimes you see a chain gang (without chains) cleaning the embankments of the creek that flows through the town. The local teachers sometimes come in the prison and take school exams. Nervous forty-year-olds sit in front of them with tattoos and slightly trembling hands. A volleyball tournament with teams from the surrounding area has already taken place in the prison. The captain of the prison team explained to the guests: "We only ever play at home".
It really sickens me to see these people 23 h of the day locked up in these dog cells. I couldn’t take it as a guard to see these people everyday treated like slaves. That’s one of the biggest crimes in the world right now. How is this allowed?!
@@gamer3d147 more like whats right with them? Treating humans like humans, showing them that they have a chance after jail. That they can build up the base for their new life in there, and continue living on that base.
Tbf from outside perspective it feels like the US hasn't changed at all since it was founded. I mean a lot of things in many countries can be seen the same but somehow the US manage to have that feel in general.
@torivarnor so as an american, im shook, are u really happy to be the best of the rest and not THE BEST.. bro whats wrong with you, thats anti-american
the same goes for police officers. They are trained for at least 2yrs, many for 3yrs. That's why it is highly unlikely something like the death of George Floyd could happen in Germany (or many parts of Europe). A European police officer wouldn't risk the death of an already arrested suspect. In the case of Floyd he probably wouldn't get arrested in the first place. He was sitting in his car well away from the alleged use of counterfeit money.
The main problem of the USA is, that privatisation had gone way too far there. When you privatise prisons, big business is always finding a way to earn more and more money. Which means more and more people are put into prison, not because they deserved it but because they are a business-asset then....
complete right, thanks. First articel of german constitution: Human dignity is inviolable First articel is not longer but its fundametel and stay over all laws any time.
I live in Germany and I feel quite safe in my town as well as when walking in the forest on my own. There might be different regions in Germany but I'd guess more than 97 % of the neighbourhoods are as safe as mine.
I live in a City where about 40% of the habitants have a migration background (in the house where I live in it is 50/50) and I feel safe here (even if walking around alone in the evening). I also often walk alone through the forest and I feel good and safe.
@Al Castill I wanna see a group of those US hard core prisoners sent to german prisons and suddenly be treated as human beings, that can do better than they did. I think they would break down and cry.
Makes me proud of being German. For me, like for many other germans, thats a weird feeling. We still very much remember the dark past of our nation. I believe this makes us a bit humble which of course is a good thing.
Btw. here is a music video about that special (mostly west) german relationship to our flag. Be warned its a little cringy but real in many aspects. ua-cam.com/video/HMQkV5cTuoY/v-deo.html
Valdas Netavo America is definitely the best place to live. I’ve been traveling all over the world since I was a kid. My parent’s are big on traveling.... even now they want me traveling with them. I don’t mind spending time with them but visiting other countries is pretty much a waste of time. I don’t remember seeing any country that left me awed at how great it is. Anything in another country can be found in America anyways lmao. Nothing interesting or special. There really isn’t anything fun or particularly great in this world lmao
What you have in the US is that prosecution and punishment is led by the public. And while there is a noble thought behind it, fact is, the public really doesnt understand things like why somebody becomes a murderer and what to make out of a murderer after he got sentenced. The mob wants retribution while the reasonable thing to do is rehabilitation. Not to say that it is easy, but you know what Kennedy said.
I really don't think that's the main problem... while yes I'm not a big fan of the jury system, I think things like mandatory prison sentences for very minor crimes or the three strike rule are a bigger problem. I'm german myself... so of course I don't really know where the problems really lie, but I think in many states the jury only decides between guilty and not guilty while the judge decides the punishment. Even when the jury decides the punishment, they still have to stay within the law .... so they can't just put somebody away forever and ever just cause they feel like it. The problem is that the law makes it way to easy to lock people away ... and not just that, but it makes it hard or even impossible to let them go free. According to the three strike law, if you get convicted thrice of the same crime (sometimes eve if it's a minor crime) you get an automatic life long sentence. Jury has nothing to do with that.
@@Ari33sa I am German too^^ I get your point but what you have to keep in mind is that in the states judges are elected by the public/appointed by politicians. Which means they are pushed to popular opinions (e.g. punishment) or political agendas. In Germany only the "Verfassungsgericht" gets elected by the Parliament. So the Justice system here is more independent.
@@dassalz7701 yeah that's True. Butter i just think in the US the Law itselft is a bigger Problem than the people Who make the sentences. If the Law didn't allow or even force them to give such high sentences. .. the US AT some point just Decided to go really tough on even Minor crime. That's Not the judges fault. .... of course there is still the Problem of the wrongfully convicted, though, and racist prejudice.
Biggest difference: In Germany we talk with our prisoners. We show them respect and treat them as equals. In US prisons the guards walk past them/don't respond or force them to keep a distance. I don't know about all yall but when someone ignores and won't listen to me I get annoyed, mad or desperate, it's stressful and provoking af. That's one of the reasons why there's always such a tension in American prisons.
Are u from Germany sir? Ive been in Germany for like 2 says but i didn't enjoy it!! Its very hard to surivive speaking only English in Germany!! Even when i said like "Thanks u very much" They wont even reply back. How strange 😂😂
water full and we didn’t enjoy having you. But normal American tourist, expats etc. are always welcome. Like the ones who come here to study because of free and very good education.
@Max Ragged It's not dropping crime rates you have to look out for but rate of recidivism. You can only drop crime rates if you change something in society and not in a prison that only see uses when a crime has already been comitted. Still in Germany (like it was said) this rate is roughly 50% lower in comparison to the US which is a huge difference in successfull management.
@@waterfull2907 If you are an American and speak US English with a very strong American accent, hardly anyone in Germany will understand you. You must speak Oxford English!
This reporter is part of the problem. The way he is interviewing these people seems like he is trying to prove a point. he doesn't keep a neutral mind, full of biases.
I think that's intentional. He's specifically presenting the questions in an American perspective, so that the people watching this, or more specifically the people that NEED to watch this, who are Americans, can better understand it. If he were to be over-optimistic and constantly praise the system instead of asking the questions your regular American citizen would ask, they would simply dismiss it as foreign propaganda they cannot understand. It's entirely fine to ask these loaded, biased questions, exactly because the people he is talking to still have the answers. If you can't even shake the system with intentionally aggressive questions, that very much proves it's validity.
I agree with the last commentator. I think he's just doing his job as a journalist by asking several critical questions from different standpoints. If not, for example hard-punishment-fans would complain that their point of view were never pointed out or confronted.
@@wurstsalatplays523 That ain't true. If I ask "Who do you like more? The funny nice guy or the smelly poophead with a knife." I already insert some form of bias that could result in an answer that has an even more biased result. Of course, even without multiple given answers as options you can be biased if you either seem completely ignorant to anything or make assumptions and say like they are a matter of fact even if you simply have no idea. This can either result in more pressure on the people that has been asked or them being annoyed.
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I work as a doctor, and our hospital has a contract with a high- security prison nearby. So quite often we have inmates with appendicitis, cancer, broken bones, whatever. When I started to work there I was very reluctant what to think about the fact that these bad guys could just be taken out to an ordinary hospital. But now I really appreciate our German system, especially the police and prison staff. They are highly trained and very professional, and they know very well when some prisoner tries to fool them. As long as the inmates are calm, everybody will treat them well. But I can tell you that the prison guards can really switch to badass when someone tries to use his hospital stay to break out or cause trouble. I think the guards are sooo important, and when people in the US want to establish this system, they really have to invest in training, especially psychology and deescalation and self-defense skills (we use Krav Maga). 🎩 Hats off to out prison staff, they are doing an excellent job 👏
"As long as the inmates are calm, everybody will treat them well. " If no as a doctor you torture them, is it correct? How do you think a prisoner with cancer while dying alone could be quite normal? You personally declare you are playing a bad doctor together with bad cops. Funny for Germany! Where is European Human Rights? Torture is everywhere even in most developed countries.
@@ersinemre877 how are you coming to this conclusion? Torture is illegal in Europe and ttthe death sentence is also illegal since it is seen as a form of torture. Bad good cop? Bad doctor? I don't see how you can come to this conclusion. She just basically said that she also found it strange that prisoners seem to be under nearly no controle but that she realised that the guards can also do the entire violence thing if the prisoner tries to escape. But that they are also trained in other methothes to deascalade the situation. The use of violence to prevent an escape/attack on the doctor is ttthe or else she talks about. And yes dying prisoners are in most cases as normal as anyone else. If you want to know more about human rights you should check out international help organisations.
Having just seen the deeply disturbing and emotional documentary about the maximum security prison in Indiana, this is just so inspiring and amazing. I live in Germany and I didn't know about any this. Super documentary!!!
As a convicted felon 20+ years ago I knew NY state would not reform me. There were not enough incentives to help me change my life on the outside. Instead it made me want to rebel against the system. I made it my choice to reform myself. I have and still do face obstacles but I know going back to prison is not an option. I have matured and have been a productive member of society ever since. Out of prison 20+ years and I still have the tag sewn on my shirt so to speak. The German prison system seems to be working because the inmates are not just a number to help the country get revenue.
"Low level offenders get fines or probation" Imagine all the people in jail in the US just for smoking pot or any other minor charge stuck in a prison with high level offenders and no way out
in Europe, one also does not get arrested for minor crimes. You get "angezeigt auf freien Fuss" aka "charged on free foot". Only those who commit very severe crimes get into jail before court hearings.
@@lizvlx Well, this depends. You can get in prison right away in Germany (Vorläufige Festnahme) if there are facts that you: 1. Flee (No place of living in germany e.g.) 2. Continue your crime/crime series 3. Destroy/alter evidence 4. Committed a crime with a long prison sentence (e.g. capital crime) That is rarely the case, though. And some people and policemen complain, that there are offenders still allowed to roam the street after commiting dozens of smaller crimes, although convicted, they don't get a prison sentence. It takes a few of those "smaller" crimes to get finally sent to prison by a judge, if it's evident, that the offender doesn't stop.
As an American I think that the Judeo Christian teaching of “spare the rod, spoil the child” has been taken very literally. We definitely need to adopt a different approach to incarceration and rehabilitation. The honest truth is, the home is broken. It shouldn’t be up to the government to grow decent humans. They should be raised in the home. That said, once they are there they shouldn’t be treated as animals. I think it’s a horrific circle of perpetual insanity. Recidivism is a profitable business. Also, if I could be so bold, the demographics of Germany and the US are extremely different. Even though Germany doesn’t have a census, we’re all aware there’s a difference. The Democrat party is a racist party in control of the prison system. They control the black community within the inner cities like they are still in slavery. Incarceration is their newer answer along with abortion clinics on every inner city street corner and benefits that they lose if they make over 1000 a month. They are strangled within the cities with no vehicles so travel is on foot and concentrated. It’s pathetic how they are herded. So while you’re system is obviously superior, consider the differences as well as what conditions are being bred purposefully to keep the prisons full for years to come. Ours are privatized and corrupt. So it’s the ruling class at fault and the black community overwhelmingly vote Democrat. I’ll never understand it. Most Americans want prison reform, it’s bi-partisan amongst the people. The Democrats will not allow it.
@@sashleymo4 Every single Democrat voted for the criminal justice reform bill in December, twelve Republicans voted against it. Prison privatization and the steep rise in prison population began in 1983 under Reagan and his so called "war on drugs". Your attempt to blame it all on Democrats is ridiculous.
@@sashleymo4 _"We definitely need to adopt a different approach to incarceration and rehabilitation."_ - I think the problem goes much deeper. The U.S. prison system is just a symptom, not the cause. There are many things to change in incarceration an rehabilitation, but I do not think they will persist without working on the cause of these developements.
This is why privatization incentives make sure capitalism industry maximize income sources, so making sure prisoner returns after they are out is part of prisons goal here in the states.
It's more complicated than this :) it is also the general "tough" attitude shown by American law enforcement. It is all those guns out there. It is bad privatization incentives. It is a general lack of respect for the individual. And many more reasons.
"Being smart on crimes" - That is the main point. How useful is somebody in Jail? After his crime he still puts financial pressure on society. By reintegrating them for example educating them to become carpenters, bakers etc you do not loos the "human potential" of the inmate. If he gets the chance to get a happy life with a decent income he wont commit crime anymore and for society it even pays off. At my local butcher there is an employee who was an inmate. He is a very friendly guy and now has a family.
"... visited several German prisons, and were amazed of how laid back everyone was, including guards" - yes, if you don't keep inmates on edge with dire conditions (zero privacy, open-air cells & noise, probably often bad sleep), the lives of the guards will improve, too.
Interviewer: „You could break off a tables leg an use it as a weapon“
German prisoner: „Are you okay?“
"I know a good psychiatrist. Should I go get him?"
I love how the prisoner clearly never thought about it. He's even surprised that he's suspected to do something like this. You can see that the fact that this man isn't treated as a criminal he doesn't even think about being one.
I think it is more about demolishing your home (even if temporairly) without serious cause.
@@Essfffssfff could as well be a pathological liar. It's still a prison
@@philipp3877 dude stfu, and you have a lack of empathy and are a pathological liar yourself probably
Germans : We treat Prisoners like they are human beings.
Reporter : But why?
Because any of the 1st world countries are better than America.
Germany, Sweden, the UK, etc.
Raflamar well, not in every way
@@Andre-lp5yh yeah true. America has guns
@@SynthgirlBulge and race riots and corona virus
First chapter of the german constitution "Human dignity is inviolable. To respect and protect it is the duty of all state authority.".
Interviewer: "You could break off the legs of the table and use as a club."
German prisoner: "Please leave my table alone or I have to call the guard. D:"
I am your first reply after three weeks and about 1100 likes.
Oh it's 1200 now
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German Prisoner: Dude, are you okay? Do you need some help?
Bottom line: German prisons are not a private business aimed at making a profit out of the inmates...
What is this, why am I hearing news media twitter trolls and Ben Shapiros voice in my head screaming "SOCIALISM † COMMUNISM †" right now? Apparently the neo liberal free market wants bad prisons
America got sumin wrong atleast
Only 8% are private
Just to destroy your thoughts a bit... they even make profit. They try to make as much as possible by themselves. So one prison facility cooks for all prisons an other one backes bread, but they also make bread to sell. there are laundry facilities. they do all the laundry for other prisons but also wash clothes for outside factories or hotels.
@@IramCoercere But no one wants to hear that.
People become dangerous, when they have nothing to lose.
derz so true!
very very true!!
Yes, and even the non-violent or harmless people can become bitter and/or dangerous after a harsh sentence and inhumane conditions.
@@dannyvario4776 Wait, you are telling me constant torture over several years can change people? Who would have thought....
Best answer here!
"If you treat them as if they are your enemy, they will react as enemies. ...Show them that there is a different way of conversation."
Doesn't work with everyone, yeah there are people in prison who honest to God were in a rough patch in their life and made mistake due to their circumstances, but there are people put there that are pure evil
@@Error-7-0-7 the pure evil ones (if they even exist at all) are only a tiny fraction of the inmates in european prisons and an even tinier percentage in the US, since there are so many people locked up there who would never even end up in prison for the same crimes here.
@@Error-7-0-7 No one is pure evil. The closest thing to evil is a psychopath (or someone with a similar mental disorder causing a lack of empathy and sympathy), but even with those people, they're not pure evil because most of them don't understand what they're doing which is why they are considered a psychopath in the first place. Anyone that has a reason (any sane reason) is not evil, maybe damaged or broken, but not evil.
Is that was you told the woman he shot in the head for money?
@@pwenkojammy2894 Even that person has to get a chance at rehabilitation back to society
one thing they didn't mention is that normally in Germany the long term sentences are not together with the short term ones. We have prisons for 6 months to 5 years and 5+ years up. We don't want them to learn how to be a better and harder criminal.
If you are sentenced as a minor (under 21) we also have special prisons so they don't get in contact with the more hardened criminals.
Same in USA. Jail is under 1 year and prison 1+ years. Minors also go to special prisons called juvenile detention centers (juvie)
@@attk177 Except for when a 14 years old does a crime but it is for some reason decided to treat it as if he was 18. Which makes no sense whatsoever.
@@Maddinhpws even Kids under The age of 14 are going to life and sometimes even on death row. There is no minimum age of 14 for prosecution in the U.S.
@@elpresley Yes what I mean is, courts can decide whenever they want to prosecute a minor not as a minor but as an adult.
I mean there was literally the case of someone who was prosecuted as an adult for drinking as a minor.
yeah but American prisons are like that because gang members are in prison while in EU gangs run wild and ordinary citizens are arrested more than the gang members.
Interviewer: "You could break off a tables leg an use it as a weapon.“
German prisoner: "There are knives in the kitchens, you know?"
Hahahaha
@@colapinklink8120 not a joke tho =)
There ARE knifes in the kitchen... which inmates use...
savages!
Funny thing the Germany prisoner didn't have that ideology until the American reporter brought it up that show how the Americans think.
When I feel down about living in Germany I like to watch american documentarys obsessing about everyday things for me
haha, same
same
Yep. Same here. There are a lot of reasons to feel down about the state of the country and it think that the prison system of effective but the victims are left out of the calculation. A little bit of "punishment" seems fair to me. A short period where they have tu suffer under lesser cicumstances and rehibilitation after that.
Ihr könnt auch Deutsch reden ... Müsst ihr aber auch nicht
@@madeyeloony2047 Da können immerhin auch die Amerikaner mitlesen :D
Ich finde aber, dass Bestrafung ein Bestandteil sein muss. Reintegration ist wichtig und kostengünstiger aber gerade bei Mord muss auch auf objektiver Ebene Verlegung geübt werden.
The German system has a high incentive to rehabilitate because the prisons are paid for by the taxpayers. In the US prisons are also paid for by the taxpayers, but they're run by private companies, so the incentive is simply to have more prisoners. More prisoners = more profits. Hence the corruption and the high incarceration rate.
In Germany we also have mandatory labour unions and living wages for 90% of people ect.
for us in Germany that's normal, we now that that so exists and it's all caused by the law *die würde des Menschen ist unantastbar*
for all it's like, nobody would like it, if you are on the wrong path, but everyone even the government cares about you and would help you to get normal again. even the kids! we get Programs in school and more. all to make sure that the kids are going to be okay.
Right, what people dont know, is, that there is a imprisonment lobby.. Also the almighty military lobby wants to sell weapons and stuff to police and prisons, so they have to insure that the laws and decisions that are made cause more and more crimes and violence, plus give the people the impression that it does. Sounds unbelievable - but thats the truth since the USA is ruled by companies.
@@i-am-your-conscience wow. That's awful!
That doesn't make sense. Are those private companies somehow eliminating the incentive for citizens to stop this accumulation of prisoners? Why do their desires remove the desires of citizens? If the German government moved to having private contractors handle their prisoners, would people suddenly stop caring about paying taxes to pay for the increased prison population?
Crazy in Germany we think that the Skandinavians have the best prisons. They really try to rehabilitate the inmates.
True!!
Yeah but the problem are the lack of skilled workers, not the rehabilitation
@@Marcelino_y_vino the "problem" in Norway is a lack of prisoners. They actually have started closing down prisons.
@Zoey Lowlands and Abi on Drums: Wow! That sounds great!
@@Mr_Keksi We need to import your and Dutchs punitive system to Israel. Here, the prisons are being overcrowded for years. Human dignity?? - Only on A4.
I visited a German prison some months ago. If you're young, you can finish school there and if you don't have a job, you can learn how to become a carpenter, a chef, a hairstylist, etc. It's the "Ausbildung". If you pass the test, you can work in that job afterward and can earn money in a legal way, and against aggression they have meetings and psychologists and therapists. But if you are too dangerous, you might never get out. I asked how often people did not return when they have earned a day out. Answer: Never.
It's not never, but the percentage is really small. In Rhineland-Palatinate 0,04% don't return. And they are mostly apprehended afterwards.
I remember that one time some guy called at a popular german late night tv show called "domian" where the host talks with random people about their problems etc. The guy was a prisoner who got his day out and he decided not to return. At the point of the phone call he was already on the run for some weeks and he had nowhere to go. He had enough money but he coldn't go to friends and family and he couldn't get a hotel room because he would need to have his ID card for that. Basically if one decides to flee its only a matter of time until he returns to prison on his own.
@@0TurnAround0 Yes, beeing on the run is somewhat worse than beeing in the prison in germany. What is also not mentioned is, that you get the leave mostly later during the sentence.
@Theodor Stark "escaping a prison is not a crime in Germany. If you're on prison leave and you do not return, you will not face a trial. "
Yes, but you are going to loose privileges earned, and being released early for "good behavior" becomes very unlikely ...
So you are punished for it in a way, it is just not an additional sentence ...
@@hartmutholzgraefe Well yes. You didnt follow a rule. Its not directly punishable as its not a crime but it puts you further behind when it gets to having more freedom (going outside, shorter sentence). What will be punished though is destroying stuff on the way out. So for example if you cut open the door of your cell that is a crime as you destroyed property and have to pay for it.
"Looks like a dorm for some Ivy League"...
Well, that says a lot about both your prisons and your dorms........
Well also the German dorms look like the prisons 😂 being a university student sucks haha
Lool, I thought the exact same :D
@@velaria4930 well at least it doesnt bankrupt you like it does here.
@@jmz1736 actually in the US the cost of keeping an inmate in prison a year costs about the same as a student attending and living at a university.
@@ussarng4649 OR MORE-- for the university edu!
Like the first Article of the german constitution says: The human dignity is untouchable.
Tabletop Troll Thats only theoretically. Practically, the Basic law (Grundgesetz) is considered as the constitution. Otherwise, a Federal Court of Constitution wouldnt make any sense ...
@Tabletop Troll well they did not call it constitution because germany was at the time seperated and the grundgesetz (wich is the german constitution) was thought to be temporary until germany was reunited again. They just did not change it upon reunification i guess because the grundgesetz worked out pretty well und there was no wish to change it.
There were two articles which said how to act when Germany gets reunited. One (124) said they have to write a new constitution. The other one (forgot the number) said that they can adapt the Grundgesetz (basic law) as a constitution. The chose the second one because when Germany reunited they didn't build a new country but the DDR was made to a part of the BRD (Bundes Republik Deutschland) and everyone was happy with the Grundgesetz. It worked. So why should they change it?
I hope this makes it clear. And I'm sorry for my English.
@Tabletop Troll that was quiet important to you, aight? poor boy.
@@kunstro
Well, it _is_ still a flaw to the German Constitution that it never was approved by the German People.
It may be just a symbolic formality, but we humans live by symbols and formalities.
well i guess since prisons in germany are not private money makers but owned by the state the prisons have no interest in keeping a crimminal a crimminal
In general we don't have interest in that.
Even if we sound harsh or unfriendly, we still care. And even more about people who did wrong. We like to prove that we can do better than that and often, we do
@@MasumiSeike also known as "Gutmenschen"
@@CooKieFigHt11 No, it's just being "Mensch" (human). :)
@@katsee8699 that's a nice comment but sadly not true
@@Abcdefg25152 How do you know?
6:04 , for real? People in the US still compare germany nowadays to world war 2? Come on, please. No.
Their education systems is kinda muh. That s why . Also they are blinded with nationalism
Most people in the US don't know Germany other than what they see in movies and learn in a few history lessons
@@versnagt1995 Uhm ... no, not everybody is blinded with nationalism here! Even though there are nationalists, unfortunately, but I think every country suffers from that problem! Still, NOT EVERYBODY is nationalist in Germany. For the majority of germans it is a shame to be nationalist.
And I think probably our education system is not perfect, but it's not "kinda muh" (whatever that means). I'm sure american education system isn't perfect, either. Please get yourself informed before you comment. Thanks.
@@versnagt1995 you are blinded with nationalism
@@Maya-pm4et I think he was talking about the US
Can't remember where the quote is from but I recall something like "You can tell how civilized a society is by looking at how they treat their problematic individuals - prisons and mental institutions."
"The degree of civilization in a society can be judged by entering its prisons" - Fjodr Dostojewski
PS: He was a prisoner himself once upon a time. Can't remember whatfore though.
for us in Germany that's normal, we now that that so exists and it's all caused by the law *die würde des Menschen ist unantastbar*
for all it's like, nobody would like it, if you are on the wrong path, but everyone even the government cares about you and would help you to get normal again. even the kids! we get Programs in school and more. all to make sure that the kids are going to be okay.
@@Flex2212 Thanks!
@@notthere83 The same counts for how the society treats their animals and their high-maintenance people. And when it comes to that, Germany is really not good in doing that
@@karlgrylls2406 how do you mean this? Ich denk mal du bist deutscher, deswegen hier in deutsch: Inwiefern werden Gefährder und "Tiere" vom Staat nicht hart genug rangenommen?
Fun Fact: The german police is not allowed to shoot others without being threatened or shot with a gun. To prevent unessecary deaths. The more you know
yearly average of humans and pets killed by police is 12
@@-crosby wtf who kills pets?
@@alisa9127 usually aggressive dogs who attack people
Very relevant for the current situation... 😢
Strayfox not only aggressive ones. They also shoot them when they have to be quick and cant allow the dog to slow them down. I know some guys and it happened to them.
In Germany we also say, the punishment consists of the time your freedom is taken, not of the way.
Jakob Gibhardt ..The punishment is loss of Liberty
@@wcstevens7 Exactly, meaning you aren't able to see your family and friends that often. I think that alone is punishment enough, you don't have to be tormented on top of that.
Edit: Tormented meaning bad inmates and guards.
And in most cases, it makes people a better person. They have to do their job, earn money for it and have to spend it on themselves (groceries, new clothes, etc). Learning the importance of having a regular income paired up with therapy is the most important part of that rehabilitation.
CrazyCircles1
Agree, criminalisation largely (aside from high level corruption) exists in US & Aust & UK in areas of family & economic trauma, prison echoes this lack of civillisation.
Yeah. You basicly loose your free will for some time, cause u fkd up ur decsision making.
They teach you how to life to the fullest again.
Die Würde des Menschen ist unantastbar
Seh ich nicht so.
Straftäter, die durch Mord, Vergewaltigung, schwerste Körperverletzung oder Raub das Leben eines anderen zerstört haben geben ja auch nichts auf das Grundgesetz. Warum sollte das Grundgesetz, wovon die Straftäter ja offensichtlich nichts halten, dann für die Straftäter gelten?
Mörder, Kinderschänder und Wiederholungstäter, die nicht aus ihren Fehlern lernen sollten hingerichtet werden oder zumindest für immer eingesperrt werden OHNE Aussicht auf Freilassung, da sie der Gesellschaft nur schaden. Fertig, aus.
Hast du mal gesehen wie die Gefangenen in den USA reagieren, wenn ihnen im Gericht 50+ Jahre Gefängnis oder die Todesstrafe ausgesprochen wird? Die fangen an zu heulen wie kleine Babies und brechen zusammen weil sie realisieren, dass ihr Leben von nun an genauso zerstört ist wie das deren Opfer.
In Deutschland lachen sich die Kinderschänder und Mörder in´s Fäustchen, wenn sie im Gericht 5 - 10 Jahre Gefängnis bekommen und danach wieder freie Menschen sein dürfen obwohl deren Opfer tot sind oder ihr Leben lang damit zu kämpfen haben. Die lächerlich geringen Strafen in Deutschland sind eine Beleidigung für die Opfer.
@@DonicMusik Damit müsse man eine Linie an einer bestimmten Stelle ziehen können. Ab wann ist eine Straftat wirklich so schlimm, dass man die Würde des Menschen aberkennt? - Es geht schwer.
@@DonicMusik lustigerweise ist mord durch die allgemeine handlungsfreiht sogar geschütz, aber natürlich aus verfassungsrechtliche hinsicht strafbar.
eine erklärung für die verhältnismäßig milde strafe ist, dass es sich bei zb entführungen für den täter lohnen soll das opfer am leben zu lassen. Wer nichts zu verlieren hat, ist viel gefährlicher.
@@DonicMusik Wir haben bereits so etwas, es nennt sich Sicherungsverwahrung:
de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sicherungsverwahrung
@@DonicMusik Und du willst sicherlich für die Mehrkosten aufkommen, die durch längere Haftzeiten entstehen würden. Immerhin hat der deutsche Staat auch nicht unendlich viel Kapital zur Verfügung, was bedeutet, dass die Mehrkosten vom Steuerzahler getragen werden müssten. Hinrichtung kommt nun einmal wegen unserem Grundgesetz nicht in Frage, da die Unantastbarkeit des Menschen auch Kriminelle einschließt, immerhin sind auch diese Menschen. Und ich persönlich könnte Hinrichtungen auch nicht akzeptieren. Wem willst du die Rolle des Henkers aufbürden? Du verdammst jemanden dazu Menschenleben zu beenden, etwas das keine Kosten kennt, da jeder Mensch einmalig ist und somit unersetzlich in seiner Gesamtheit.
The fact that a German prison cell is referred to as being equal to an Ivy league dorm shows how bad the infrastructure crisis really is..
rofl!
I just had the same thought.
Yeah, i wouldn't put my dog in a dorm like this.
Also fun is, that a german dorm is easily twice the size of that cell, if you even live in one and not in another rented apartement. On top of that a one person dorm costs 250-400€ per month, furnished. They are mostly a few kilometres away from Campus with easy access to the City, accessable with one tram/bus line, so no switching. Technically the cost to attend uni in NRW (a state) is 90€ per semester, the 210€ rest are for a public transport ticket for NRW and can be paid for by the uni if you currently have a really bad time and show that you are actively working on it. Some unis even allow for 0% loans if you really need some money, e.g. no support from family computer broke and you do graphics processing for CS, so you need a laptop/pc with a proper graphics card and CPU
one should reconsider - even the locks work better than the ones of private dorms...
My dad is US American, my mom is German, they got divorced when I was 6 years. My mom fought hard to take me with her back to Germany. When I was 17, I traveled back to the US for the summer to visit my dad. After having seen the US, I was happy and proud to be German. I thank my mom for fighting to take me with her.❤
I wish the best for you and for Germany.you must truly be proud of your country cause it restores faith in humanity.
God bless you lady Kim!
@@cosmonautbilly9570 Yeah that's why most great things came out of Germany... oh wait!!! Germany = Hitler. America = Google, UA-cam, Smartphones, ETC
@@artiew8718 Thanks for reminding us stupid Germans that we have a history no one is proud of.
But i want to tell you, that we do our best recovering, doing better and never let things like this ever happen again.
And to explain to you, he means that Germany does a good job in care for equal treatment, no matter where are you from, if you are poor or rich or which race you are. Schools and University are free, we have a good functioning health care system, our crime rate is low and we have a system that tries it best to support people who don't have a job or a home.
So please try to let go of that stereotype that Germans are nazis and aggressive and hateful.
We try our best to be different.
P.S.: I'm sorry if there are any grammar or spelling mistakes. As you have maybe read english is not my mother tounge.
@@artiew8718
Yes your right. There's really nothing important invented in Germany...
Keeping able bodied men 23h in a cell... and wondering about problems? There's really nothing that's not fundamentally wrong in the American prison system, is there?
ja,das denke ich auch jedes mal wenn ich einen Film über USA Gefängnisse sehe...
@@beakittelscherz5419 just type in English
@@ashuu3 translation: bea thinks this as well when she sees movies about US prisons...
You suggest they should first be cirppled? : 3
@@MrCmon113 Well, I guess they get the mental crippling part right already. Time to make more money with some hunger games maybe? (Joking dead serious)
German correctional officer: 2 years learning psychology, communication skills, conflict management.
Meanwhile in the US.
JUST read a job description for the Texas DOC: high school diploma, current drivers license, proof of immunizations, recent physical exam, criminal history, no work experience required. I was shocked! that's IT .. and i was NOT a direct hire with the DOC, it was through a subcontractor! Just unreal.
It's so weird, that I as a German asked myself: "Do they actually think being able to beat up people is enough requirement for an American prison guard/police officer?"
@@lukasholtkamp7614 hahah yes why do you think we have the problems we do currently lol
@@TerryReedMiss also.. why is a drivers license required? I think that wouldn't be a requirement in Germany. Since there is no need for driving in a prison, is there?
Unlike the US, Germany doesn't think of prisoners as free labor slaves.
I wish for some where this so..
Well, it´s not quite like that. They are being kind of exploitet.
In Germany there are more than 60,000 prisoners. A large part is obliged to work - usually at a fraction of the minimum wage. The prisoners do not pay into the pension fund, they are threatened with old age poverty. Moreover, the work in the prisons harms the competition outside the prisons. Profiteers are the federal states that run the prisons - as well as well-known corporations or their suppliers as clients.
Well we did that a while ago and it worked pretty well back than
unlike germany, american isn't bending over to invaders.
@@ryankelley5160 are you sure about that?
Attention, contextual punchline:
The German prisoners live the American Dream 😄
Well played, man.... Well played.
The American dream : " from rages to riches " is possible ...... but in America ... Very unlikely
Kinda true xD
@@versnagt1995 why not?
You mean like Germans live it and Americans can only dream of it? Sounds about correct.
12:25 Well it's technically not prison. He already did his sentence, but psychologists deem him very dangerous, so now he is locked up for crimes he didn't do. This difference is important, and the living conditions should be different from prison.
Yes it's called "Verwahrung". The idea behind it is not punishment, it's to keep society safe from individuals deemed as dangerous.
@@Manueelaa Yeah, and it can only be used on people who got a life sentence (which means "15 years + possibly this extension thing, if needed"). As far as I know, only murderers get those sentences, and only very few of them actually get their sentences extended.
@@faultier1158 And I do think that the Sicherungsverwahrung is a critically discussed topic in Germany. Currently there are 500 Men and one woman in Sicherungsverwahrung.
@@faultier1158 Not only murderers. I know that there is someone in Verwahrung who commited multiple robberies.
In there are the real, untreatable psychos, and should stay there.
4:45 Reporter gives the prisoner violent ideas.
4:54 "Gosh I haven't even thought about that"
@Sascha Schröder Auf dem Papier gesehen verleitet P&P zu schwerwiegemden gewalttaten. Bzw. sagt mir mein SL. immer ich soll heute doch bitte keine Zivis umlegen xD
I swear to god, if you know german it sounds 10 times funnier how he says it in the most oblivious manner
@@jooplin "da hab' ich noch gar nicht drüber nachgedacht" hahaa
@@letmesleep6056 weißt Bescheid 😂
@Sascha Schröder In a Roleplay, you have a purpuse, I need to defeat the bad guy and I need a wepen, its logic to break of the tabel legl. Prisoner why do I want to destroy my dinner table, thats is illogical. Its not like a tabel legl will helpe my situation.
American dream. It's called dream because u have to be asleep to believe it.
It will never change, it's just about the money.
LOL sad, but in a way true.
or it's called a dream, because dreams can also be nightmares. :/
Doesn't make much sense if you look at how much all of it costs you guys.
@@CrazyCircles1 explains why there are so many privat prisons ... ofc they want to loose money
Pretty sure the American Dream is about money and comfortable living. It's a goal to achieve.
The first article of the German constitution states: "Human dignity shall be inviolable. To respect and protect
it shall be the duty of all state authority."
US prisons don't seem to leave a lot of space for human dignity.
Die Würde des Menschen ist unantastbar.
I know that is the official translation of the 1.1st article of the constitution. Though I would translate it as "Human dignity IS inviolable.... I my mind it is always reads more like a statement of fact/truth instead of a commandment. Especially since the 2nd part of article 1 reads "Therefore the German people...". The "Therefore" relates to the fact/truth stated in the 1st part of the article. I wonder why it was translated like that. Maybe I lack the nuanced understanding of the English translation?
joe cheney, and this is why America is the center of all hypocrisy.
But no article explains what human dignity means :D
@@mcmarkmarkson7115 but no article explains why you have common sense :D
"The prisons uniform: streetclothes. For the inmate who finds this too stressfull -there is yoga."
OMG so funny
So, what's funny about that?? Because you don't get it......
@@0whip99 What dont they get? Or I didnt get?
Calming down with yoga is very important. Yoga can also be used to prevent many types of diseases, so that treatment costs can be reduced. When it comes to saving costs, Germany is very efficient.
@@WCiossek Im sure thats true, I was talking about out how the narrator told it.
Watching this as a German really gives you a different perspective. The interviewer gives of a "brain washed" vibe.
He just represents the American perspective. The Americans would probably ask the same stern questions he did so he did great. If you do an interview you also have to challenge your interview partner a little bit or else it's just a conversation between two people who agree with each other which is not something a person wants to see if the aim is that people challenge their own perspectives and opinions.
That moment when anyone questions your radically diffrent system, and he's brainwashed?
It's not "brainwashed" , he views most of it from the north american perspective. In the US prisons are famous for how bad they treat human beings, that's why they were in search of new kinds of rehabilitation practices like in germany. They also suffer from increasing corruption and crowded prisons, but Connecticut is a great start for example . Still, most US people are not familiar with european prison systems, hence the questioning.
@A. I. if he served prison for the rest of his life it wouldnt get anyone to anything. no one has a profit off of it. not the family, not the man. he cannot change what he has done. no one can. the only thing he can do is live a normal life, that would actually profit him and the society for example for jobs etc.
@A. I. the punishment for the murderer is the constant memory of the crime, it is the mental effect it has on you. it is the regret you feel. after a brutal prison camp this will not be regret anymore, that is why the american prison system is dangerous.
"This would be a nice dorm room." how sad is that??
Its true.
@@cookingandlive Yeah, but I gotta admit, that would be a pretty decent dorm room in Germany as well. Only dorms have less leisure programs.
Funyn fact, for breaking out of prison there is no more jail time in germany, cause the right of personal freedom is in our base law.
But if you break any laws on your way to do so, you get jailed for. ^^
It's not because of personal freedom, obviously the right to freedom is taken away when in prison. It's because the german supreme court (Bundesverfassungsgericht) acknowledged that the desire to be free is a basic human instinct.
A similar guideline (leaning on a tradition going back millenia to the old testament/the jewish tanach; Dtn 23,25f) was made in the case of stealing food and drink in small amounts if it's necessary for your immediate survival (Mundraub). Although theoretically still a misdemeanor (therefore "guideline" and not a legally binding decision) it can only be enforced if the victim of the theft files a "Strafantrag" (which is different from a law suit) which basically never happens.
@@wurstkonig3621 and simply by getting a "Platzverweis" wich means if you steal your apple from Edeka and you get caught the manager of that market can say you are not allowed in that edeka anymore, meaning, if you go there anyway you are trespassing. For trespassing you can go to jail for up to a year or you have to pay a fine. Like Theft of things with small value you have to make a "Strafantrag" to enforce Trespassing
but you wont get the ability to be released earlier then. (keine gute führung)
Pretty much like with drugs. It is legal to use them but not to own them. But to use them you need to own them. It is very hart to use drugs without owning and buying them before and even harder to proof in court.
@Yama Satru That doesnt really change anything. Im sure it would be still considered owning, its illegal either way. But if you were to use some stuff of someone else, someone hands you a joint, i guess you would get away with it. (Nobody would care anyway, normally)
2:37
Wrong question. The real question is:
What would the inmate do if he didn't have a future for himself?
Is that too hard to answer? Do you really think with no future the inmate would try to obey the law in future? Of course not. You can't make any human fear a prison enough to make him not commit any crimes despite having no future.
There is nothing more dangerous than a man without hope
Yeah that's true. Good thing that we watched the same documentary where we saw you loose your freedom for years after you commit a crime.
Fluppi very true !!
exactly!! if there is no hope, there is no way. I've heard way too many (American) inmates say that they are actually happy to be back in prison because at least they know there is food and a roof over their head. sounds extreme, but is reality!! there is little to no hope in American prisons so how do they expect inmates to do better in freedom after being locked up 23 hours a day for years??
@bob joe You can say both things, but does either matter if evidence (from countries like Germany, Sweden, Norway, ...) points to certain conclusions?
"you could escape if you want to"
"ja"
"but you don't"
"nein"
idk why this was so funny to me🤣🤣🤣
It is actually sad, in comparsion to US. And it's funny at the same time, because he knows that even as ex-con, he still has a future to work for. Why would he run away from it, what a stupid question to even ask.. :D
Even if he escaped. Prison escape itself is not punishable over here in Germany. But that doesn't mean he wouldn't lose his privileges since they are only granted to him as long as he accepts their terms and conditions and follows the rules that come with those. But his original sentence couldn't be extended due to him escaping because then you'd make the pursuit of freedom illegal and that is against the constitution.
well, it is not that funny, because he wants to spend time with his family. And if he flees now, where does he go? Not to his family, because there is where they would look first....
@@boahneelassmal That was informative! Never heard about this, can you be more specific and name the law where I can find that?
@@boahneelassmal ok, just read the German Wikipedia article on that. The escape itself is not punishable in Germany (and Austria too), but they break in most cases other laws such as law against property damage, assault, resistance to law enforcement officers, etc. So that in fact then the escape will be punished.
They do the same in sweden, norway, denmark
Greetings to our Scandinavian friends!
thats true but its quite easy to take germany as an example for historic reasons
True. USA can learn from us, and we (germany) can learn from sweden, norway etc.
Norway has the lowest re-incarcerationrate in the world.
@@JonathanXLindqviust also the prisons are even nicer from what I saw on UA-cam :o
"We're being SMART on crime... and that happens to mean more lenient"... Perfectly said.
Phantastic! Very good story... I'm from Germany and I am a 100% behind our mindset about this
@@derdrache487 in a very low crime (especially violent crimes) country the chances of losing loved one is a lot less than in the US! Also no very few (none) are going to get shot by steping on a lawn or by accident because someone plays with guns!
Germany. The land of Gutmenschen
@@CooKieFigHt11 looks like it works
Der Drache Not everyone in Germany goes to prison for rape and child abuse
I had been to German prison for 18 month. The punishment I the loss of freedom, and if you spent time there, you think twice about committing crime. Our system is not perfect, and not all of our prisons look like the ones showed here, but it is way more helpful to treat people like people and not like animals...
Nice that you share this! Stay strong...and outside these walls!!👍
No clue who you are, but your name gave me flashbacks to a series of books i read as a kid. Lovely memories, thanks bro
@@kappalel1237 I guess that bro is probably a sis since Walküren (Valkyries) are female in Norse mythology, as far as I know. Please let us know the name of the books.
@@bildfluss looked it up yesterday, the books are called „skulduggery pleasant“. Walküre is one of the main characters... ^^
@@kappalel1237 oh dude I just read the first book like a week ago
I love how shocked the interviewer is when the prison director tells him he thinks he deserves to have a prospect in life after he served his sentence.
6:15 Yes. We Germans like to think that we as a culture learned from the mistakes of the past.
By the way, breaking out of prison isn't illegal in Germany -if you can break out of prison in such a way that you don't commit any further crimes (like damaging property, or attacking a guard) your sentence won't go up when you're caught again. There won't be an early release though, i suspect. And of course helping someone fleeing is still an offence.
This is correct. However you while you wont violate the law, you will still violete internal prison rules and can recieve punishment for that.
since the right of freedom is a basic law here you cant be punished with a longer sentence for breaking out of prison.
but all your "good time" gets cut once youre back.
if our system didnt work we wouldnt use it.
@Make White People Proud Again Germany has 3rd world immigrants for over 60 years now, beginning in the year 1954. There are no significant differences in criminal statistics beween germans and immigrants after living for 5 years in germany. I was never victim to an immigrant but 2 times to proud white people, or Nazis; thats how we call them over here. Greeting from a 100% german.
@@dirkdriessen1133 Same in Belgium. Escaping from prison is a prisoner's right.
@Make White People Proud Again bro shut up, american nazis are so cringe
I spent 36 months in prison with the feds for white collar fraud. That was a decade ago and since then I have very firmly established myself as a productive member of society who has never committed another crime. I can say that, without question, our criminal justice system and our culture does absolutely nothing to rehabilitate anyone. Our system and our people do not get any credit whatsoever for a formerly incarcerated person turning their life around. Those who get rehabilitated do it in spite of all that. If someone picks themselves back up after prison, ONLY that person (and perhaps that persons inner circle of friends and family) get the credit.
The bottom line is our system of justice is a dramatic failure. We are effectively running crime factories in this country and all citizens are shareholders in these factories. The USA has some of the highest rates of crime, particularly violent crime in the entire world because of the incredibly immature way that our society chooses to deal with this issue and the people who do wrong.
People need to be held accountable for running afoul of the law but what we are doing is insane and creates much worse problems.
Kevvy Kim You don’t know me brother. But my close friends and people I volunteer with in community (to help others) DO know me and they DO trust me. They know that I’ve learned from my mistakes. I constantly do the best I can to walk a good path, every single day. I’ve done that now for over a decade.
If you’re a Christian or even philosophical or even choose to believe that life has any meaning at all then you’ll take to heart what Jesus taught regarding forgiveness and understanding. One thing he said in particular really stands out to me in that “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.....” so what that means is that everyone (including yourself) have made bad choices. Nowadays any determined prosecutor can take any of those bad choices you have made and turn them into prison sentences for you.
What you said about Brazil, I’m not doubting you. I’ve heard there are some really horrible things going on there too and I want those things to stop also. This may sound cliche to you but I truly want the whole world to live in real community with each other where everyone is loved and cared for.
So what I’m saying regarding this whole issue is that I know what I’m talking about when it comes to the “get tough on crime” prison system. It’s basically a war on you and me and everyone in society and it begins at the point of condemning anyone. That applies not just for the USA but EVERYWHERE. I’ve lived that experience and I’ve seen how it affects people and how it destroys families and society at large. If you truly want to live in a far safer world then it begins with re-examining our approach and method of dealing with this issue, otherwise things are only going to get much worse.
@@chrisulmer694 Powerful. Keep walking the good path
i am from germany. i am glad you picked yourself up after what you have done. educade others. be the best you can be!
punishment is never the way!
funguslicker Thank you 🙏 very much. Your kind words truly mean a lot to me. I think our culture in the USA has a whole lot to learn from your culture. You are much appreciated more than you may know as being an ambassador for your culture and sharing that wisdom with the rest of the world.
Entengummitiger Thanks man and God bless. You’re a good dude and much appreciated.
German fun fact: Here it is not a crime to try to or escape from a prison. Because the need to live in freedom is just human.
True, but any illegal activity you commit while escaping still counts though.
Also fun fact:If u try to escape u need to be naked... cuz if u take something from the prison with u to escape ur going to get charged for stealing😉🤝🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪
@@qolalite6001 If you escape in your own clothes, it's not stealing. But in practice it will be very hard to escape without breaking anything.
@@qolalite6001 If you watched the video, you'd realize that german prisoners mostly wear their personal clothing and not goverment issued wardrobe.
@@Robin93k Lol many of my cousins are in prison and they mostly have prison clothing.They can wear personal clothings if they are training or when its sleep time but not always
Während wir über unser Land meckern, bewundern uns andere Länder!
Das ist halt die deutsche Metalität. Wir haben es besser als die meisten Länder auf dieser Welt, beschweren uns aber trotzdem über alles. Meckern auf hohen Niveau halt.
Ist doch gut. Dadurch wird es noch besser.
@@privateger hahaha
@@carolusmagnus332
_"Meckern auf hohem Niveau"_ - ist das übliche Nicht-Argument, wenn sinnvolle und mögliche Veränderungen verhindert werden sollen.
Manchmal hilft eben ein Blick von außen. :) - Mich macht es stolz, dass wir für einige Dinge bewundert werden.
Feels so good to see US look left and right. Many countries only look at their own way and think it's the only right thing to do. Learn from your neighbours, improve your country.
That's exactly what i think.
Yes that is a big step for America, Citizen love their country and have every right to do so. But always calling it the greatest country makes you blind, noone can be best in everything, so learning is the only option to get better.
@@juliusw2719 Trump got elected because the democratic party didn't have any good candidates for the election, Hillary was a terrible candidate and has lost the election several times before 2016, and the democrats decided to go with her for some reason. Trump has had a sub 40% approval rating for much of the time he's been in office, which isn't very much considering approval ratings for presidents go up to 70%+ when the economy is doing good like it is now. If you think Americans are self-absorbed I implore you to take a look at western Europeans and Canadians on the internet who think they're countries are absolutely perfect utopias.
@@memebrother7083 BERNIE 2020
@@machida58 He is a communist. He said that he will also increase taxes for the middle class. He will spent money until there's nothing left anymore.
To tax the rich like 70 to 90% is stupid! They will just leave.
Most socialist/communist countries have to build a wall around, so that the rich won't leave.
BTW, Bernie is a big fat LIAR. We do not have one single socialist country in Europe.
We have a free market economy /capitalism & some social programs.
I left the US 23 Years Ago, and will never return. There is no solution in the states, it is to late for that. you would need to reboot the minds of all Americans
Jesus dude you sound like you just escaped the soviet union lol
@@cisco8257 I mean...it's gotten more expensive to renounce your citizenship and they tax you hard even if you're living abroad.
I'm trying to move myself, it's just very, very expensive.
I left in 94, only go back to visit
Good , we don’t won’t you back
I wanna leave america also. If I won the damn lottery.
"The degree of a society's civilisation can be judged by entering its prisons" or smthg like that -- Fjodr Dostoewsky
This kind of reminds me of John Rawls Philosophy. He argued something like: You can judge a country or system by considering how they treat the lowest/weakest members of society.
"Civility" I'm guessing would be the translation.
So, you treat people like animals and they act as such. Weird...
*surprised pikachu face*
No animal will ever be as bad as what humankind brought in the world.
If you torture a prisoner out of revenge, meaning he will receive high amounts of violence, first this will worn out his psychic condition, he will probably break down or his desire for violence will increase even more. This is not how you rehabilitate people or keep society safe. When you try to abuse an abuser, how is this going to help anyone, he was violent in the first place and will not change by creating more violation for him.
Americans indoctrinated themselves into being tough in every aspect of life.
You are tough on your criminals, you are tough on your regular citizens (no healthcare + absurd minimal wages/minimal living conditions), your police is tough, your gangs are tough, your army is tough, your presidents have tough speech, your corporate influence is tough and strong.
But when everything is tough, what place is left for goodhearts and a relaxed life?
Having lived in the states as an exchange student, I also feel like parents are tougher on their children, too. I´m not advocating anti authoritarian education but my parents in Germany usually appealed to my conscience when I had done wrong while my Host parents in the states grounded me or "punished" me otherwise. I know which I liked better and I know which I´ll want for my children, too.
At the same time, Americans are also very entitled. In the sense that they see themself as very enlightenend with the best way of life in the world, being the most free nation with the best democracy.
@@CrniWuk Oh yeah for sure. I think there is an overall, maybe false confidence that makes them not question things as much as they maybe should.
@@TomOkkaTom The "grounding" thing is already very punitive. But there are parents today (2018 in the specific cases I know about) that sign permission slips to allow their children's teachers and I think also school administrators to *paddle* them. Even the "Child, you did this thing that you shouldn't have done, don't do that. Seriously, don't do that." approach is more effective than a lot of people in a lot of countries seem to think.
Edit: The paddling thing takes place in the US, not Germany.
@@camelopardalis84 oh wow! The parents are not allowed to paddle themselves though so how do they get to allow the teachers?
Mad respect to the peple in the US that are trying to change things.
word to that.
I sometimes wonder ... by now it's an open secret that the Military-Industrial Complex supports Hollywood movies with lots of stuff going Ka-bumm as long as the movie makes the military look good.
So ... all those "but we can't tread murderers in a human way!!!!1!" comments and talking points. Coincidence? Or engineered?
US Americans often talk about freedom, and that freedom is the most important thing and how proud they are to live in a free country. I find it ironic that many Americans don’t seem to consider that taking away freedom from an offender is a huge punishment in itself. There is no need to punish them further by poor living conditions. Neither should the prison guards/correction officer punish people however they like. It should be up to the court to decide about the punishment, imo.
8:48 that is one thing, I as a German, especially regarding what is going on rn, have never understood. This weird obsession about race.
What race? There literally is only one human race on the planet, the Neanderthals are dead, we're the last, and you Americans make "race" an issue. Just the concept of race alone sounds racist to me.
right? It's horrible that a lot of people from the US still use the word "race" like that... what race? There's only the human race.
Don't forget that the concept of racism was coined in the European "motherland". You just don't get to see or experience as many racist incidents because the number of non-white European citizens is so small compared to the US. The race issue is a complicated one that isn't just about hatred towards people with a certain skin tone. It's about unconscious bias (white lady clutching her handbag when she sees a black teenager, police always assuming that the white person is telling the truth, the assumption that black men are inherently more dangerous as they tend to live in more impoverished and thus criminal neighborhoods which makes cops pull out their guns much quicker). If you can, I would recommend you to get some further information about racism in the US and in Germany from your local Black Lives Matter Chapter (in Berlin) on social media. You can also look up sources about those key words "school-to-prison pipeline", "gerrymandering", "redlining", "war on drugs" and how that disproportionately affected the black community, the history of "school busing" and how schools were then resegregated.
Remember: if the number of visible minorities was higher in Germany, there would likely be just as much visible racism as in the US. Us Germans tend to present ourselves often as far superior to the United States, but in the end white supremacy doesn't stop once you've crossed the Atlantic Ocean.
@@joshina4497 Race is a sociological concept that needs to be used and be talked about as long as racial discrimination and racial bias exists. We won't eradicate racism by simply ignoring that race is a concept in the minds of almost every single person on earth. The human being is not really able to unlearn such categories as race, religion, culture once it has been learned. If you truly look at yourself you will find that you too hold opinions, assumptions and biases about race and that you have blind spots of ignorance towards members of other ethnicities. All people do. Unlearning them is a life long process :) but it's worth it.
Scientifically, you are quite correct, differences between races (for lack of a better term) are negligible at most in terms of biology. However, when the interviewer brings it up, he is pointing out a real factor in how well this may translate to the United states. Incarceration rates of black and latino people are astronomical. (A racism problem, not a race problem, to be clear) if we started to implement a prison system like the one depicted here, it is very likely that these lenient sentences and better conditions would favor white people like they already do in America. It would be tragic to see the divide of the treatment of prisoners based on race widened by this addition. Systemic racism in the american judicial system is rampant.
@@jmz1736 the whole justice system needs a root and branch reform from the cops, through the courts and the prisons, up to the legislature. But reform in each area should drive reform in the others. For example, if a state spends loads less on housing prisoners and can divert funds into, say, retraining the police, or education, then the taxpayers will vote cos they can see the benefit of their dollars. One of the biggest problems is the punishment mentality in the US. It means that the brutality of the prison system is justifiable because it is focused on the crime, not the person who did the crime. They don't matter at all, because if they are in prison, they must be guilty. And if they're guilty, they are no longer a person.
Let's make a prison for rehabilitation, peacefully and human
Republicans : That's communism!
Its funny, because even though prisons are privat companys, there is no free market they are in. I think thats really important. Why should a company care for the lives of the people inprisoned? Its like a hotel but the customers aren't able to choose. Free market benefits from competition. So its not "socialism" to criticize prison as a private business, its just common sense.
Additionally prisons benefit, if there is more crime, because the criminal is their resource to make money. If there is money in a business, there is a lobby. Plus they pay taxes, i guess. Plus, high prison rates are good for politicians because they "do something" against criminals and offer society a way to get "revenge". But in the end, only the companys and polititians benefit, while both the tax payer and criminal lose.
@@NeurosenkavalierEmilSinclair could you summarize
That’s completely wrong. I’m a retired teacher and a Republican. I know lots of Republicans. We care about helping people learn to become a good person. Democrats just want to turn people loose and think that is caring. I’d like to see real job skills taught in prisons and in high schools. I’d love to see these men (almost all of whom had no father in the home) be mentored by a good man. I love the ideas from other countries in this video.
@@MaryJF49 This is a joke which addresses the fact that it is common by Republicans, when something doesn't fit their perspective, to call it socialism or communism and a prison system focused on rehabilitation instead of punishment or revenge is not a typical Republican viewpoint. "Democrats just want people to turn loose" sounds like a really bad strawman of a Democrats position on this subject.
When you and your fellow Republicans have an such avangardististic view on this topic, I appreciate it and hope your ideas get heard by other Republicans too.
@@randomhuman3687 That WAS a summary!
I rather be sentenced 15 years in German prison than 5 years in US prison.
I'd rather be sentenced 15 years in german prison than 5 months in US prison.
Above all, you would have to fear early death in US prison.
Dont drop this Words too Easy. I guess its possible 2 survive US Prisons and loosing 10 years More is Heavy af
Chris Diy maybe don’t commit a crime lmao
When you behave good in a German Prison you would be out after 4 years probably xD
2019 In germany the police fired only 67 shots over the course of a year.
And there were 14 people killed
Boring weekend in the us
@@terrysilver8290 HAPPY , SAFE time in the USA!
...and thats pretty much for the German Police
And we still think it's too much
In germany we treat our prisoners as human beings.. which should be a normal thing everywhere in the world.
Is that how he treated the woman he shot in the head?
Pwenko Jammy eye for eye and the world is blind -Gandhi-
ist einfach so
@@pwenkojammy2894 It is maybe not the best system. But i am glad we dont have the american way. Or the Chinese which are very similar in my opinion.
@@pwenkojammy2894 no it isnt and thats why you ensure he will treat people that way in the future, locking him up for the rest of his life in a peison or sentencing him to deathrow will just cause dead inmates or even guards.
Can you imagine knowing that you will have to spend your entire life, without chance of release, in one of those cells? Where there's bars going out to a huge communal area and you have no privacy at all? Can we also talk about how the prisoner, who voluntarily have an interview, decided not to tell them his crimes and they then went to the administration to ask about them anyways? How disrespectful is that?
First thing that came to my mind!
imo, that's so american. but no frontation tho
this is why it is called punishment
It's nowhere stated that they asked anyone else, just that German privacy laws prohibited it to find out.
In the USA the criminal records are public, so you can check if your neighbor ever got in trouble with the law .
@@JohnPopcorn06 do you want that the Prisoners become a working member of Society, or do you want that they get out and are more dangerous than before? Because your statements seems really biased.
@@musiccer7446 it depends what kind of prisoners they are. i want to save those who we can, and lock away those who are no longer humans. but we also have to punish them. and it is not some "bloodthirsty reaction" from my part. justice is a complicated concept, but i believe it heavily depends on the notion of "making the victim and its family peace with the situation". if someone killed my parents in a car accident because the driver drank alcohol, i would want to make him pay (going to prison for years). and if we have to really choose, i value justice much more than that the prisoner to become a working member of society after his release.
Still everybody is afraid to go to prison because your life will be ruined if you go there once. You will never find a decent job again. It's more like a death sentence for career, relationship and time.
@PicogramCan you elaborate how their prison system works?
As for Isolation, is a two edged sword. Some cannot bear to deal with their inner conflicts, while others come stronger and wiser out of it.
And if you ask me, people should only be send into isolation, when they have been teached how to properly meditate (focus on feeling and accepting everything within you and outside consciously).
Only then the true magic happens, when they apply shadow work in the isolation and thus resolve their inner conflicts and traumata in the process.
DevilTrigger ehh you need to backup that claim with evidence mate.
Because that’s pretty absurd, and no it’s not a death sentence to your career unless that career was in the police or correctional system.
It also depends on what a person has been convicted of?
Because it’s normal to provide a “straffe attest” that is a record of convictions.
And there are different kind of records but your convictions on the record also has a expiration date from which will be deleted from your record 12 years I think.
But I’m looking forward to your evidence stating that the Nordic system has a higher rate of suicide than others
I spent time in prison
4 years after being released,I purchased a home.Now I own two homes. I am successful.
@DevilTrigger sources?
@DevilTrigger If you mean in the country side - some. In isolation cells - no!
"Be smart on crime" instead of "be tough on crime" - I like the ring of that. Maybe the U.S.Americans will one day realize that a criminal is a "malfunctioning" human being. But if you have a malfunction, punishment will make it worse, so you don't punish, you _repair._ That's the smart way.
Yeah Ted Bundy should have been shown compassion lmao.
@@davidcook680 - ever heard of Anders Breivik? He is locked up in _Norway,_ a country with one of the most humane prison systems in the world, but given his … interesting state of mind … it is very unlikely that he ever will make another step in his life as a free man. There are a few people who are “beyond repair”, who _cannot_ be rehabilitated and then released, no matter what we try. Everybody else - you can function as a productive member of society, so do just that.
He wouldn't tell us his crimes and German Privacy laws kept us frlm finding out😂😂
I loved that part.
"Wait what do you mean you cant just tell me his name, adress, commited crimes and social security number???"
what's funny about that
@@imamessbutitsfine2377 US Privacy laws are non existent compared to German ones and I find it funny that they still tried, despite him clearly refusing. Nosy.
Here in Germany most people who get locked up in "preventive detention" committed severe sexual crimes (multiple or extreme rapes etc) or something else you could just describe as madness. So in a nutshell: people who really have a high level mental disorder get locked up there (so basically impossible to rehabilitate). They still get psychological treatment and it is checked on a regular basis if the person is still dangerous for society.
So you can have a good guess on what he did ;)
"Gosh I haven't even thought about that"
*escapes prison next day using the leg of the table*
escaping the prisons here isnt illegal.
@@semiramisubw4864 Yes it's not illegal, only if you commit crimes during the escape. If you just escape without doing anything like kidnapping or destroying stuff you are perfectly fine.
@@FelixIsGood I often here it. But is it still considered well behavior (gute Führung) and does one still have the chance to get out earlier?
@@bildfluss i don't know, i guess not. But you have the chance anyway.
Us Germans have to believe in rehabilitation because that's what happened to our whole country after the worst possible crimes.
It just makes sense tbh, we learned it the hard way, a way that shouldntve existed but we learned out of it
I cannot agree more
I agree
I really like the interviewers reaction at 7:20 when he said "Theyre all human beings"
Noticed that too!
Treat humans like humans and they might become humans.
Criminals are not born as "evil" criminals they are socialized to become criminals.
Greetings from Germany. ;)
You mean Greetings from Ermenonville?
The inmates of our local prison always make decorations for the kindergartens at Easter and Christmas. There is an art group that takes part in the annual exhibition in the town hall and sells paintings and sculptures. Sometimes you see a chain gang (without chains) cleaning the embankments of the creek that flows through the town. The local teachers sometimes come in the prison and take school exams. Nervous forty-year-olds sit in front of them with tattoos and slightly trembling hands. A volleyball tournament with teams from the surrounding area has already taken place in the prison. The captain of the prison team explained to the guests: "We only ever play at home".
GREAT production! Objective, honest, outcome-oriented. Thanks a lot from Germany!
L3P3 you r my maaaan
It really sickens me to see these people 23 h of the day locked up in these dog cells. I couldn’t take it as a guard to see these people everyday treated like slaves. That’s one of the biggest crimes in the world right now. How is this allowed?!
The fact that the interviewer found it unusual that the prisoners are treated as people scares me
Why isn't anybody talking about how Germany's prison room looks like a potential Ivy League dorm?? America, you okay?
not really lol...
Right? That's a pretty cramped room by the standards of most colleges I know.
Iris Sirirada you should ask what’s wrong with Germany lmao
@@gamer3d147 more like whats right with them? Treating humans like humans, showing them that they have a chance after jail. That they can build up the base for their new life in there, and continue living on that base.
US Americans’ thinking is way outdated, almost primitive.
not almost it is, their prisioncells looks like caves
Tbf from outside perspective it feels like the US hasn't changed at all since it was founded. I mean a lot of things in many countries can be seen the same but somehow the US manage to have that feel in general.
@torivarnor we re comparing the so-called first world countries, fella.
@torivarnor do you compare walking skills of a 4 year old toddler to 10 month old child to see who’s faster?
@torivarnor so as an american, im shook, are u really happy to be the best of the rest and not THE BEST.. bro whats wrong with you, thats anti-american
6:36 prison guards are well trained and highly paid AND SOME ARE ALSO HOT APPERENTLY.
:D
6:45
@@zedor1872 lmao
the same goes for police officers. They are trained for at least 2yrs, many for 3yrs. That's why it is highly unlikely something like the death of George Floyd could happen in Germany (or many parts of Europe). A European police officer wouldn't risk the death of an already arrested suspect. In the case of Floyd he probably wouldn't get arrested in the first place. He was sitting in his car well away from the alleged use of counterfeit money.
@@granville7 true! BUT racism and xenophobia are also german problems.
Jedes mal wenn ich eine Hasskappe auf die deutsche Justiz schiebe, gucke ich mir dieses Video an und mir wird ganz warm ums Herz.
Same
Das macht einen schon stolz
Weil leider viele hierzulande auch nicht verstehen, dass Resozialisierung neben der Strafe dazu gehört. Viele wollen nur bestrafen bzw Rache
@@grafzahl4698 deshalb bin ich ganz froh darum, dass wir hier in deutschland keine laienrichter, wie in den usa haben.
@@KTRTWVPAUS Es gibt sehr wohl Schöffen aus dem Volk.
@@cleancoder3838 ja aber diese beschließen nicht das endgültige Urteil.
The main problem of the USA is, that privatisation had gone way too far there. When you privatise prisons, big business is always finding a way to earn more and more money. Which means more and more people are put into prison, not because they deserved it but because they are a business-asset then....
Treat a human being like a human being and this is what you get. Treat a man like a dangerous wild animal and is anyone surprised how that works out?
complete right, thanks.
First articel of german constitution:
Human dignity is inviolable
First articel is not longer but its fundametel and stay over all laws any time.
I live in Germany and I feel quite safe in my town as well as when walking in the forest on my own. There might be different regions in Germany but I'd guess more than 97 % of the neighbourhoods are as safe as mine.
Depends highly on who you are and who your friends are tbh...
@@FailableGamer not really.
I live in a City where about 40% of the habitants have a migration background (in the house where I live in it is 50/50) and I feel safe here (even if walking around alone in the evening). I also often walk alone through the forest and I feel good and safe.
If you treat a person like a wild animal you shouldn't be surprised if they react like one. Treat them as equals and with respect, you get this
I want to go to prison in Germany better than my job at Walmart lol
You don't really want.... !!
@Al Castill I wanna see a group of those US hard core prisoners sent to german prisons and suddenly be treated as human beings, that can do better than they did. I think they would break down and cry.
You want to stay in a nice apartment and play all day long on Playstation ?!?
Vote in every election, avoid voting GOP--that party supports for profit prisons. Vote dem--our only hope for improving working conditions
Tadi, who wouldn’t want to stay in a nice apartment with a comfy bed, and a PlayStation?
Proud of my country!😊🇩🇪❤️
@grogdizzy geh kacken
@grogdizzy only the second. The first was Serbien/ Austrian fault
@grogdizzy Thank god the US have not... Oh, wait...
grogdizzy Okay be proud of the deportation of the Japanese people after the Pearl Harbor attack
grogdizzy grow up and get a life, mate
Makes me proud of being German. For me, like for many other germans, thats a weird feeling. We still very much remember the dark past of our nation. I believe this makes us a bit humble which of course is a good thing.
guilt-tripping, much?
@@SkyForceOne2 I could name a long list of Nations that would benefit from being a bit more guilt driven about their past.
@@derPetunientopf so... literally EVERY nation on this planet?
@@SkyForceOne2 No but most of the western countries and in general all the big ones. There are also many countries who are fine as they are.
Btw. here is a music video about that special (mostly west) german relationship to our flag. Be warned its a little cringy but real in many aspects. ua-cam.com/video/HMQkV5cTuoY/v-deo.html
Im so happy i live in Europe... Seems, America is worst place to live.
🇪🇺🇪🇺🇪🇺
Valdas Netavo yeah cause ur a criminal ain’t u lmao
Near east: Am i a joke to you?
@@gamer3d147 Nope but if u live in USA, look a round u living in a big zoo... USA best tv show on a planet 👌
Valdas Netavo America is definitely the best place to live. I’ve been traveling all over the world since I was a kid. My parent’s are big on traveling.... even now they want me traveling with them. I don’t mind spending time with them but visiting other countries is pretty much a waste of time. I don’t remember seeing any country that left me awed at how great it is. Anything in another country can be found in America anyways lmao. Nothing interesting or special. There really isn’t anything fun or particularly great in this world lmao
What you have in the US is that prosecution and punishment is led by the public. And while there is a noble thought behind it, fact is, the public really doesnt understand things like why somebody becomes a murderer and what to make out of a murderer after he got sentenced. The mob wants retribution while the reasonable thing to do is rehabilitation. Not to say that it is easy, but you know what Kennedy said.
I really don't think that's the main problem... while yes I'm not a big fan of the jury system, I think things like mandatory prison sentences for very minor crimes or the three strike rule are a bigger problem. I'm german myself... so of course I don't really know where the problems really lie, but I think in many states the jury only decides between guilty and not guilty while the judge decides the punishment. Even when the jury decides the punishment, they still have to stay within the law .... so they can't just put somebody away forever and ever just cause they feel like it. The problem is that the law makes it way to easy to lock people away ... and not just that, but it makes it hard or even impossible to let them go free.
According to the three strike law, if you get convicted thrice of the same crime (sometimes eve if it's a minor crime) you get an automatic life long sentence. Jury has nothing to do with that.
@@Ari33sa I am German too^^ I get your point but what you have to keep in mind is that in the states judges are elected by the public/appointed by politicians. Which means they are pushed to popular opinions (e.g. punishment) or political agendas. In Germany only the "Verfassungsgericht" gets elected by the Parliament. So the Justice system here is more independent.
@@dassalz7701 yeah that's True. Butter i just think in the US the Law itselft is a bigger Problem than the people Who make the sentences. If the Law didn't allow or even force them to give such high sentences. .. the US AT some point just Decided to go really tough on even Minor crime. That's Not the judges fault. .... of course there is still the Problem of the wrongfully convicted, though, and racist prejudice.
Yes. People are idiots by nature.
Biggest difference: In Germany we talk with our prisoners. We show them respect and treat them as equals.
In US prisons the guards walk past them/don't respond or force them to keep a distance.
I don't know about all yall but when someone ignores and won't listen to me I get annoyed, mad or desperate, it's stressful and provoking af. That's one of the reasons why there's always such a tension in American prisons.
Are u from Germany sir?
Ive been in Germany for like 2 says but i didn't enjoy it!!
Its very hard to surivive speaking only English in Germany!!
Even when i said like
"Thanks u very much"
They wont even reply back.
How strange 😂😂
Yeah , because we should always cater to rapist and murderers . We should respect their feelings and make them feel at home in prisons .
water full and we didn’t enjoy having you. But normal American tourist, expats etc. are always welcome. Like the ones who come here to study because of free and very good education.
@Max Ragged It's not dropping crime rates you have to look out for but rate of recidivism. You can only drop crime rates if you change something in society and not in a prison that only see uses when a crime has already been comitted. Still in Germany (like it was said) this rate is roughly 50% lower in comparison to the US which is a huge difference in successfull management.
@@waterfull2907 If you are an American and speak US English with a very strong American accent, hardly anyone in Germany will understand you. You must speak Oxford English!
When you put low level criminals in jail they are with the worst of the worst. In the USA they use way too much force. It just isn't right
I also feel like putting low level criminals in a jail together with the "worst of the worst" will lead to those low level criminals getting worse.
This reporter is part of the problem. The way he is interviewing these people seems like he is trying to prove a point. he doesn't keep a neutral mind, full of biases.
I think that's intentional. He's specifically presenting the questions in an American perspective, so that the people watching this, or more specifically the people that NEED to watch this, who are Americans, can better understand it. If he were to be over-optimistic and constantly praise the system instead of asking the questions your regular American citizen would ask, they would simply dismiss it as foreign propaganda they cannot understand.
It's entirely fine to ask these loaded, biased questions, exactly because the people he is talking to still have the answers. If you can't even shake the system with intentionally aggressive questions, that very much proves it's validity.
I agree with the last commentator. I think he's just doing his job as a journalist by asking several critical questions from different standpoints. If not, for example hard-punishment-fans would complain that their point of view were never pointed out or confronted.
A question cant be biased.... only the answer can be
@@wurstsalatplays523 That ain't true. If I ask "Who do you like more? The funny nice guy or the smelly poophead with a knife." I already insert some form of bias that could result in an answer that has an even more biased result. Of course, even without multiple given answers as options you can be biased if you either seem completely ignorant to anything or make assumptions and say like they are a matter of fact even if you simply have no idea. This can either result in more pressure on the people that has been asked or them being annoyed.
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I work as a doctor, and our hospital has a contract with a high- security prison nearby. So quite often we have inmates with appendicitis, cancer, broken bones, whatever. When I started to work there I was very reluctant what to think about the fact that these bad guys could just be taken out to an ordinary hospital. But now I really appreciate our German system, especially the police and prison staff. They are highly trained and very professional, and they know very well when some prisoner tries to fool them. As long as the inmates are calm, everybody will treat them well. But I can tell you that the prison guards can really switch to badass when someone tries to use his hospital stay to break out or cause trouble. I think the guards are sooo important, and when people in the US want to establish this system, they really have to invest in training, especially psychology and deescalation and self-defense skills (we use Krav Maga). 🎩 Hats off to out prison staff, they are doing an excellent job 👏
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@@MrManilook 😂👍 Genau 😉 ist aber schon etwas länger her 🙂
@@ersinemre877 actually a prison system focused on rehabilitation can sink costs. Why? Because it prevents people to repeditly get into prison.
"As long as the inmates are calm, everybody will treat them well. " If no as a doctor you torture them, is it correct? How do you think a prisoner with cancer while dying alone could be quite normal? You personally declare you are playing a bad doctor together with bad cops. Funny for Germany! Where is European Human Rights? Torture is everywhere even in most developed countries.
@@ersinemre877 how are you coming to this conclusion? Torture is illegal in Europe and ttthe death sentence is also illegal since it is seen as a form of torture.
Bad good cop? Bad doctor? I don't see how you can come to this conclusion.
She just basically said that she also found it strange that prisoners seem to be under nearly no controle but that she realised that the guards can also do the entire violence thing if the prisoner tries to escape. But that they are also trained in other methothes to deascalade the situation. The use of violence to prevent an escape/attack on the doctor is ttthe or else she talks about.
And yes dying prisoners are in most cases as normal as anyone else.
If you want to know more about human rights you should check out international help organisations.
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@@Luca-sz5uy Ehre Alder
I really liked that part
Having just seen the deeply disturbing and emotional documentary about the maximum security prison in Indiana, this is just so inspiring and amazing. I live in Germany and I didn't know about any this. Super documentary!!!
As a convicted felon 20+ years ago I knew NY state would not reform me. There were not enough incentives to help me change my life on the outside. Instead it made me want to rebel against the system. I made it my choice to reform myself. I have and still do face obstacles but I know going back to prison is not an option. I have matured and have been a productive member of society ever since. Out of prison 20+ years and I still have the tag sewn on my shirt so to speak. The German prison system seems to be working because the inmates are not just a number to help the country get revenue.
Most of this boils down to Germany's 1st article in its constitution: "The human dignity is inviolable"
"Low level offenders get fines or probation" Imagine all the people in jail in the US just for smoking pot or any other minor charge stuck in a prison with high level offenders and no way out
in Europe, one also does not get arrested for minor crimes. You get "angezeigt auf freien Fuss" aka "charged on free foot". Only those who commit very severe crimes get into jail before court hearings.
@@lizvlx Well, this depends. You can get in prison right away in Germany (Vorläufige Festnahme) if there are facts that you: 1. Flee (No place of living in germany e.g.) 2. Continue your crime/crime series 3. Destroy/alter evidence 4. Committed a crime with a long prison sentence (e.g. capital crime)
That is rarely the case, though. And some people and policemen complain, that there are offenders still allowed to roam the street after commiting dozens of smaller crimes, although convicted, they don't get a prison sentence.
It takes a few of those "smaller" crimes to get finally sent to prison by a judge, if it's evident, that the offender doesn't stop.
@@Dragon.7722 yup i know, i was just simplifying it :)
@erica thomass there is nothing wrong with african men. men in general however.... ;)
5:43 _"as clean and as bright as a google campus"_ 😂😂😂
Americans: "we are christians and believe in forgiveness!"
Also Americans: "this guy did smth wrong, punish him to death!"
The United States of America is built on the principle of "Do as I say, not as I do", they consider themselves to be GOD, not to be christians.
The interesting thing is that it is legal to break out but you can only be prosecuted for the damages incurred because freedom is a human need
And you might miss out on privileges granted for good behaviour.
As an American I think that the Judeo Christian teaching of “spare the rod, spoil the child” has been taken very literally. We definitely need to adopt a different approach to incarceration and rehabilitation. The honest truth is, the home is broken. It shouldn’t be up to the government to grow decent humans. They should be raised in the home. That said, once they are there they shouldn’t be treated as animals. I think it’s a horrific circle of perpetual insanity. Recidivism is a profitable business. Also, if I could be so bold, the demographics of Germany and the US are extremely different. Even though Germany doesn’t have a census, we’re all aware there’s a difference. The Democrat party is a racist party in control of the prison system. They control the black community within the inner cities like they are still in slavery. Incarceration is their newer answer along with abortion clinics on every inner city street corner and benefits that they lose if they make over 1000 a month. They are strangled within the cities with no vehicles so travel is on foot and concentrated. It’s pathetic how they are herded. So while you’re system is obviously superior, consider the differences as well as what conditions are being bred purposefully to keep the prisons full for years to come. Ours are privatized and corrupt. So it’s the ruling class at fault and the black community overwhelmingly vote Democrat. I’ll never understand it. Most Americans want prison reform, it’s bi-partisan amongst the people. The Democrats will not allow it.
@@sashleymo4 Every single Democrat voted for the criminal justice reform bill in December, twelve Republicans voted against it. Prison privatization and the steep rise in prison population began in 1983 under Reagan and his so called "war on drugs". Your attempt to blame it all on Democrats is ridiculous.
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_"We definitely need to adopt a different approach to incarceration and rehabilitation."_ - I think the problem goes much deeper. The U.S. prison system is just a symptom, not the cause.
There are many things to change in incarceration an rehabilitation, but I do not think they will persist without working on the cause of these developements.
This is why privatization incentives make sure capitalism industry maximize income sources, so making sure prisoner returns after they are out is part of prisons goal here in the states.
Yup
It's more complicated than this :) it is also the general "tough" attitude shown by American law enforcement. It is all those guns out there. It is bad privatization incentives. It is a general lack of respect for the individual. And many more reasons.
"They are all human beings ..."
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Dieser Kommentarbereich ist nun offizielles Eigentum der BRD.
Understood this. In Afrikaans: Dié kommentaarbereik is nou offisieël eiendom van die BDR.
@@hghbryson6821 Thats dutch
@@riccardos2955 Well then it's the same in both, coz that's Afrikaans as well.
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That's dutch
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"Being smart on crimes" - That is the main point. How useful is somebody in Jail? After his crime he still puts financial pressure on society. By reintegrating them for example educating them to become carpenters, bakers etc you do not loos the "human potential" of the inmate. If he gets the chance to get a happy life with a decent income he wont commit crime anymore and for society it even pays off.
At my local butcher there is an employee who was an inmate. He is a very friendly guy and now has a family.
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@無垢 doch, doch, doch
Köftespieß mit Sauerkraut
Nein Steffen nein.
Und ein Jahr später geht es wieder von vorne los 🤣
2:30 That’s about the nicest description of Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania you’ll ever get, even the locals don’t speak that highly of themselves lol
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"... visited several German prisons, and were amazed of how laid back everyone was, including guards" - yes, if you don't keep inmates on edge with dire conditions (zero privacy, open-air cells & noise, probably often bad sleep), the lives of the guards will improve, too.
we can count prison riots in the last 31 years with one hand here in germany. how about the usa?