I'm brand new to this game. I haven't even played yet, so I'm watching "how-to" videos before I attend my first Crokinole local event I've been invited to. 🎉❤😂
Best video you’ve come out with yet. Even though (I think) I’ve established myself as an index finger shooter I found this extremely fascinating. Definitely giving me some ideas to work with for the tougher angled shots
This was less scripted than normal. I usually write out a bit of script just to try to keep it succinct. Toufh for someone who likes to talk as much as I do lol. This one I just had a few bullet points and let it rip.
I have changed my shooting style 3 times and the last one seems to be coming along. My wife has been really struggling with finding stability. Hopefully this video will help. Thanks John
@@TraceyBoards I’m really surprised there isn’t more instructional videos out there. I’m a pool player, and when I first started playing, UA-cam was my main source of information.
I'm new to Crokinole, and I'm really loving it. A fellow beginner shoots using a technique similar to the one you describe in which the shooter places a finger on top of the disc and gives it a shove rather than flicking it. Actually, this guy puts two fingers on top of the disc while giving it a push. We're just playing for fun, so I just let it slide (so to speak!), but it seems to me that this violates Rule 7e, which states that a disc must be STRUCK by one or more finger. If the shooter is merely sliding the disc forward, it isn't really being "struck". I'd be interested in your opinion on this.
Glad to hear that you’re liking it 😁 and you are right- if you’re playing by national Crokinole association rules, shoving it from the top is not a legal shot. And, so long as it’s house rules you can let it slide, so long as everyone’s happy playing! It’s just something to keep in mind if your friend ever goes to a tournament
Hi there, I got a question, how I flick my fingers is I hold my index finger just behind the edge of the board (or sometimes push it against the playing surface and then release), and let the edge give me the right amount of flicking pressure for the shot, is this a valid shot (if this makes a little bit of sense :)?
Great video and very helpful. Getting my first board in a few weeks. Super excited. Also getting a Klask board. Recommend checking Klask out if you haven't heard of it, but most excited about my crokinole board!
As I was reviewing the rules after a different video I was surprised to see “A disc must be struck by one or more fingers.” In the rules. Have you ever played with someone who flicks/strikes the disc with more than one finger?
I personally have seen a handful of people try to strike it with 2 or 3 fingers, but everyone quickly switches to 1 finger since doing it with more isn’t nearly as accurate (if there’s anyone reading this who shoots with more than 1 finger, let us know!)
I’m trying to find those little baskets that go on the side to store disc that are in the ditch. I saw them on Amazon,but now I can’t find them. What are they called? Trying to stop my wife and I from pulling from the ditch.
If I’m reading this right, you’re most likely looking for a disc tray to put discs on before shooting, so there’s no need to pull them from the gutter 😁 traceyboards.com/shop/crokinole-accessories/crokinole-8-button-tray/
@@TraceyBoards I’m looking for something to put the discs in after being put in the trough. I saw a small basket that clipped on the edge. But now I can’t find it. We keep pulling and playing discs from the trough by mistake. Because,you know. We are kinda dumb.
@@2robdot I don't know about the baskets. I do know that for some reason when you use the 8 button trays it just seems to stop people from pulling discs from the ditch. I have seen it a number of times.
from a rules perspective, no. From a success perspective, there can be a difference in how the button slides convex vs concave. Many of the top players prefer the flat side down. Some will intentionally use it flat side up if they need more drift or 'action' on their shot. Glad you are enjoying the content, lots more to come.
What about using your pinky finger? Lay your pinky on the board and hold it with your thumb just as you would with your index finger and release. It’s more of a sweeping action but it’s something I was trying when I first started. I now use my index finger.
Thank you Jeremy. I only got into Crokinole starting with the huge rush from the Shut Up and Sit Down review in 2019. My first board was a Mayday to see what it was like which cause my buddy to buy a much better board 15 minutes after playing on my Mayday (although there was a 3-4 month wait due to the great crokinole rush of 2019. My second board is a custom designed WoodenYouKnow with a watch face which is in my office. I'll probably get a Tracey in the coming year to replace the Mayday at home and donate the Mayday to someone for further indoctrination. Bottom line is I am very much a novice. While I am a crokinole novice I am a lifelong (50 year old) pool player and engineer so I have always approached the game from a mechanics standpoint. Like with pool it seems the greatest factor to success in crokinole is consistency in your shot mechanics. Nothing is worse in pool than an erratic stroke and bridge. If you are constantly changing it up, don't have smooth motions, and fail to have a stable bridge nothing else will help and this perfectly translates to crokinole. If your shooting hand isn't stable and your stroke consistent you can never, every improve beyond a glass ceiling. As you stated, it all comes down to a stable hand and consistent approach. After playing around I have settled on the system Jeremy Slater showed in his video last year ua-cam.com/video/2bFhBf3p9wg/v-deo.html While placeing the disc as shown though I have my index finger extended so as to be aiming as I place the disc. Once the disc is down I place my index finger in the shooting position and remove my middle finger as shown in the video. Another thing I have taken from this is to never move my hand after placing the disc without completely resetting. If I place the disc and find the line is not to my liking I will remove hand and disc from the line and reset entirely. Once my hand is down it should be only a matter of extending my index finger perfectly forward exactly as I do for every single shot. This is exactly how I set up for a shot in pool. As I set down the my bridge hand and the cue I am lining up with my stance. If I do not like the line I see down the cue after entering my shooting stance I DO NOT correct while bent over the ball; I stand up and completely reset. I want every muscle to function the same as it does for every single shot save the amount of power to be applied. That is at least how this very novice and diligently practicing new crokinole player approaches the game. Thank you again for great boards and videos, I look forward to having a Tracey soon.
Justin makes great videos and clearly knows the game extremely well. I watched that video when it came out but quite intentionally did NOT rematch before recording this one. I wanted this to be my take on it and not 'borrow' content from his video if that makes sense. The goal was really to show some options. I agree with all your points about being solid and consistent. In my experience people transition well from pool to crokinole. Seeing angles is so important and comes with practice. I hope we get to sit across from one another some day :-)
Great vid! Your videos convinced me and the wife to take up playing! We got ourselves a 'beginner' board and are having loads of fun! Question: are you allowed to switch hands for shooting? I'm ambidextrous and can shoot with both hands but this means I'm not leaning as much for my offhand shots... is this allowed or an unfair advantage? Thanks for your videos, they are very informative and well done! Also thank you for introducing us to a very enjoyable game!
We did a video about this a while ago: ua-cam.com/video/InLYPidNmDU/v-deo.html Short answer is that there is no rule against it. The fact that you can shoot with either hand is just great for you. you shouldn't be punished for that any more than a top level player should be punished for being able to shoot better than others with their dominant hand. :-)
I'm new to this game and am not sure what is a legal and an illegal shooting technique but my friend that I play with uses pressure with his index finger and pushes down on the back of the biscuit to pressure it across the board.
Nice tips! I've thought about picking up a blank die, write those different styles (including the spider) on its faces and use it to randomly choose which style each player needs to use on the match. I think it's going to be really fun! Besides that, how do you choose which side of the disc to use? Thanks!
Wait. 1. I'm new to this with a board on order. The sides of the disk are different? Aren't they both flat? 2. I think you covered that thumb method just so you could work in that "Attila the Thumb" pun. 3. I wonder if flicking pucks would be a better approach to playing Sjoelbak too. 4. You don't happen to have a twin brother in Great Britain that posts travel/adventure videos under the Bald and Bankrupt channel do you?
HI Jeremy. Sorry to post on an old vid but I've been watching a few of yours today but I'm not able to find one where you explain the board "wax" that I see in the gutter. What is that stuff and what is the best way to use it? Do you put in on the board as well? Appreciate your time and your videos.
first, sorry it took so long for me to see this. Second, I am not quite sure what you mean. Do you mean once you set a peice down to shoot it can you change your mind? if that's what you mean, yes, absolutely. You have to keep one cheek on the chair when you shoot but you are allowed to move around in that chair (without moving the chair that is)
In my experience, however someone starts playing is what they prefer. Anyone who grew up playing cues hates the idea of finger flicking and vice versa. I don't hate cues but for me it takes away some of the tactile-ness (is that a word?) of the game. I just love the feel of flicking the disc so much ...
@UCpIZd_cu07c7SdeQ5sQ%F0%9F%98%82%F0%9F%98%82ZquA What can I say, I attended the university of board building :-) as much as I talk you'd think I'd know ALL of the words LOL.
Why did you call it a disc in this video instead of a button like you have and at least another couple other videos? Is it because “flick your button“ could be a term that is a double entendre? Lol
How do you flick?
Instructions unclear, flicked my biscuit too hard.
@@DanielVieu like Gailer? 🤣
@@TraceyBoards mod3ans
Inconsistently
@@jimgrant9081 did you take lesson from Daniel Vieu??? 🤣
I'm brand new to this game. I haven't even played yet, so I'm watching "how-to" videos before I attend my first Crokinole local event I've been invited to. 🎉❤😂
That’s awesome! Let us know how your first Crokinole event goes 😄
Best video you’ve come out with yet. Even though (I think) I’ve established myself as an index finger shooter I found this extremely fascinating. Definitely giving me some ideas to work with for the tougher angled shots
This was less scripted than normal. I usually write out a bit of script just to try to keep it succinct. Toufh for someone who likes to talk as much as I do lol. This one I just had a few bullet points and let it rip.
I have changed my shooting style 3 times and the last one seems to be coming along.
My wife has been really struggling with finding stability. Hopefully this video will help.
Thanks
John
And thanks for the question/suggestion. Happy flicking :-)
I’m loving these crokinole videos
Glad to hear it :-) we already have more ready to roll out, more ideas and wide open to even more suggestions.
@@TraceyBoards I’m really surprised there isn’t more instructional videos out there. I’m a pool player, and when I first started playing, UA-cam was my main source of information.
@@shortydancer we're working on it:-)
Great instructions, great video!! Must be those Saturday night T-Bones 😆🥩 (posted in wrong spot earlier)
So... I can make T-bone steak purchases a business expense???
I was goofing around last night and sank a couple of 20s using the crazy thumb method, lol.
its fun to play with for sure. guessing it will never be my main flick but still fun
I'm new to Crokinole, and I'm really loving it. A fellow beginner shoots using a technique similar to the one you describe in which the shooter places a finger on top of the disc and gives it a shove rather than flicking it. Actually, this guy puts two fingers on top of the disc while giving it a push. We're just playing for fun, so I just let it slide (so to speak!), but it seems to me that this violates Rule 7e, which states that a disc must be STRUCK by one or more finger. If the shooter is merely sliding the disc forward, it isn't really being "struck". I'd be interested in your opinion on this.
Glad to hear that you’re liking it 😁 and you are right- if you’re playing by national Crokinole association rules, shoving it from the top is not a legal shot. And, so long as it’s house rules you can let it slide, so long as everyone’s happy playing! It’s just something to keep in mind if your friend ever goes to a tournament
Great video as usual 👌
Well thank you. Glad you enjoy the content :-)
Hi there, I got a question, how I flick my fingers is I hold my index finger just behind the edge of the board (or sometimes push it against the playing surface and then release), and let the edge give me the right amount of flicking pressure for the shot, is this a valid shot (if this makes a little bit of sense :)?
Thank you, I started to play 3 weeks ago.this video helpt me al lot
Glad to hear it :-) keep watching the tips videos and the drills as well. Happy flicking :-)
Great video and very helpful. Getting my first board in a few weeks. Super excited. Also getting a Klask board. Recommend checking Klask out if you haven't heard of it, but most excited about my crokinole board!
I have heard of Klask just haven't played it yet. Thanks for the comment and the suggestion 😀
As I was reviewing the rules after a different video I was surprised to see “A disc must be struck by one or more fingers.” In the rules. Have you ever played with someone who flicks/strikes the disc with more than one finger?
I personally have seen a handful of people try to strike it with 2 or 3 fingers, but everyone quickly switches to 1 finger since doing it with more isn’t nearly as accurate (if there’s anyone reading this who shoots with more than 1 finger, let us know!)
Thanks for the heads up !
Any time!
I’m trying to find those little baskets that go on the side to store disc that are in the ditch. I saw them on Amazon,but now I can’t find them. What are they called? Trying to stop my wife and I from pulling from the ditch.
If I’m reading this right, you’re most likely looking for a disc tray to put discs on before shooting, so there’s no need to pull them from the gutter 😁
traceyboards.com/shop/crokinole-accessories/crokinole-8-button-tray/
@@TraceyBoards I’m looking for something to put the discs in after being put in the trough. I saw a small basket that clipped on the edge. But now I can’t find it. We keep pulling and playing discs from the trough by mistake. Because,you know. We are kinda dumb.
@@2robdot I don't know about the baskets. I do know that for some reason when you use the 8 button trays it just seems to stop people from pulling discs from the ditch. I have seen it a number of times.
@@TraceyBoards ok,thanks.
really helpful video (s) subbed.
glad to hear it, happy flicking :-)
Barb n I are loving your videos, thanks for taking the time to produce these videos! Question, does it matter which side of the disc/button one uses?
from a rules perspective, no. From a success perspective, there can be a difference in how the button slides convex vs concave. Many of the top players prefer the flat side down. Some will intentionally use it flat side up if they need more drift or 'action' on their shot.
Glad you are enjoying the content, lots more to come.
What about using your pinky finger? Lay your pinky on the board and hold it with your thumb just as you would with your index finger and release. It’s more of a sweeping action but it’s something I was trying when I first started. I now use my index finger.
Great vid. You missed the Boot double tap:). Nice spider showcase!
The Boot Double Tap is such a high level shot it requires an entire video to itself.
Thank you Jeremy. I only got into Crokinole starting with the huge rush from the Shut Up and Sit Down review in 2019. My first board was a Mayday to see what it was like which cause my buddy to buy a much better board 15 minutes after playing on my Mayday (although there was a 3-4 month wait due to the great crokinole rush of 2019. My second board is a custom designed WoodenYouKnow with a watch face which is in my office. I'll probably get a Tracey in the coming year to replace the Mayday at home and donate the Mayday to someone for further indoctrination. Bottom line is I am very much a novice.
While I am a crokinole novice I am a lifelong (50 year old) pool player and engineer so I have always approached the game from a mechanics standpoint. Like with pool it seems the greatest factor to success in crokinole is consistency in your shot mechanics. Nothing is worse in pool than an erratic stroke and bridge. If you are constantly changing it up, don't have smooth motions, and fail to have a stable bridge nothing else will help and this perfectly translates to crokinole. If your shooting hand isn't stable and your stroke consistent you can never, every improve beyond a glass ceiling. As you stated, it all comes down to a stable hand and consistent approach.
After playing around I have settled on the system Jeremy Slater showed in his video last year ua-cam.com/video/2bFhBf3p9wg/v-deo.html While placeing the disc as shown though I have my index finger extended so as to be aiming as I place the disc. Once the disc is down I place my index finger in the shooting position and remove my middle finger as shown in the video. Another thing I have taken from this is to never move my hand after placing the disc without completely resetting. If I place the disc and find the line is not to my liking I will remove hand and disc from the line and reset entirely. Once my hand is down it should be only a matter of extending my index finger perfectly forward exactly as I do for every single shot. This is exactly how I set up for a shot in pool. As I set down the my bridge hand and the cue I am lining up with my stance. If I do not like the line I see down the cue after entering my shooting stance I DO NOT correct while bent over the ball; I stand up and completely reset. I want every muscle to function the same as it does for every single shot save the amount of power to be applied.
That is at least how this very novice and diligently practicing new crokinole player approaches the game. Thank you again for great boards and videos, I look forward to having a Tracey soon.
Justin makes great videos and clearly knows the game extremely well. I watched that video when it came out but quite intentionally did NOT rematch before recording this one. I wanted this to be my take on it and not 'borrow' content from his video if that makes sense. The goal was really to show some options.
I agree with all your points about being solid and consistent. In my experience people transition well from pool to crokinole. Seeing angles is so important and comes with practice.
I hope we get to sit across from one another some day :-)
Great instructions! Enjoyed the video! ( Must be those Saturday night T-Bones )😆🥩
Great vid! Your videos convinced me and the wife to take up playing! We got ourselves a 'beginner' board and are having loads of fun! Question: are you allowed to switch hands for shooting? I'm ambidextrous and can shoot with both hands but this means I'm not leaning as much for my offhand shots... is this allowed or an unfair advantage?
Thanks for your videos, they are very informative and well done! Also thank you for introducing us to a very enjoyable game!
We did a video about this a while ago: ua-cam.com/video/InLYPidNmDU/v-deo.html
Short answer is that there is no rule against it. The fact that you can shoot with either hand is just great for you. you shouldn't be punished for that any more than a top level player should be punished for being able to shoot better than others with their dominant hand. :-)
What about if you are cross-dominant?
I'm new to this game and am not sure what is a legal and an illegal shooting technique but my friend that I play with uses pressure with his index finger and pushes down on the back of the biscuit to pressure it across the board.
Nice tips!
I've thought about picking up a blank die, write those different styles (including the spider) on its faces and use it to randomly choose which style each player needs to use on the match. I think it's going to be really fun!
Besides that, how do you choose which side of the disc to use?
Thanks!
Well there's a hot topic. Leave it with me.
Short answer is flat side down the vast majority of rhe time.
Wait. 1. I'm new to this with a board on order. The sides of the disk are different? Aren't they both flat? 2. I think you covered that thumb method just so you could work in that "Attila the Thumb" pun. 3. I wonder if flicking pucks would be a better approach to playing Sjoelbak too. 4. You don't happen to have a twin brother in Great Britain that posts travel/adventure videos under the Bald and Bankrupt channel do you?
HI Jeremy. Sorry to post on an old vid but I've been watching a few of yours today but I'm not able to find one where you explain the board "wax" that I see in the gutter. What is that stuff and what is the best way to use it? Do you put in on the board as well?
Appreciate your time and your videos.
ua-cam.com/video/wLFcvpQk-dY/v-deo.html
@@TraceyBoards Thats it! Thanks for the link!
Are you from the Bog of Souls?
Can you change your position while shooting
first, sorry it took so long for me to see this. Second, I am not quite sure what you mean. Do you mean once you set a peice down to shoot it can you change your mind? if that's what you mean, yes, absolutely. You have to keep one cheek on the chair when you shoot but you are allowed to move around in that chair (without moving the chair that is)
Here’s one you missed. I’ve seen a player use his index finger but it was held back by his thumb and middle finger. .
interesting. just anohter example of how each player finds their own style of play :-)
can you brace your flick with your thumb in the gutter?
Be honest you waited all all video to say “Atilla The Thumb”
Why not play with a crokinole cue? It makes the game so much better.
In my experience, however someone starts playing is what they prefer. Anyone who grew up playing cues hates the idea of finger flicking and vice versa. I don't hate cues but for me it takes away some of the tactile-ness (is that a word?) of the game. I just love the feel of flicking the disc so much ...
@@TraceyBoards tactility is the word you're looking for.
Great video btw.
@UCpIZd_cu07c7SdeQ5sQ%F0%9F%98%82%F0%9F%98%82ZquA What can I say, I attended the university of board building :-) as much as I talk you'd think I'd know ALL of the words LOL.
That music in the background is very distracting and annoying. I couldn't focus on what the guy was saying. Why not omit the background music?
A friend used his baby finger to kind of “push “ the disc..cheating I say!
depending on what you mean by push I would agree with you :-)
Y U big noob? 😮
Why did you call it a disc in this video instead of a button like you have and at least another couple other videos? Is it because “flick your button“ could be a term that is a double entendre? Lol
So the proper terminology is “disc”, however, our family grew up calling them “buttons”, so the terms are often used interchangeably for us 😁