Hi, thanks for featuring this video of mine, very happy to share our slice of the motoring world! The turquoise coupe at the beginning (the Tomcat) is from the early '90s and is a Rover 220 Coupe - and the Honda guess was very close. Rover and Honda co-developed their 80s and 90s ranges together so they have a lot of similarities. I have one of the Rovers and an Alfa 145 so there are a videos about those car on the channel
As a non Bot i have to agree with them, you are cranking out some gems lately. 😂 not your standard reaction channel, this is a real guy learning out of genuine interest and taking us along for the ride. You're doing it right 🤘❤️
That's over 78 MPG for our North American friends :-) To achieve that it has a inline-3 (yes) 1.2 L Turbo Diesel engine with an automatic transmission, and has aluminium and magnesium alloys in doors and other body parts to have less weight
@BrianLTU lol, but i live on madeira island lol, you're always going either up a mountain or down a moutain lol, all cars have higher consumptions here, compared to the factory values.
On the Alfa Romeo, the Tspark was exactly that. 2 sparkplugs per cylinder. Bit more power and cleaner running as the second spark burnt any leftover gasses. They fired a spit second after the 1st plug.
@@sliderdriver1 I was dying if my friend .. License 2 months asked me what wrong with his motor. Looked on it and told him it ll just plugs, no big deal. He was so happy .. for him cheap and fast repair. So i told him he bough himself T-Spark :D Not that happy after it. Worst part he asked me the same question after about 3 years again with that he never did it :D
I had a Granada ghia during the 90s in the UK. There was no power steering and it was built like a tank. It was a good workout when i first started to drive it, but it was super comfortable for it's day.
In Europe you could get a basic MB S-class with hand crank windows, cloth seats and manual transmission in the 70/80's. But still got the really nice quiet ride and interior space.
2:02 - Rover late 90's 200 series. 2:35 - Rover 200 coupe, a Honda Concerto in different skin. Many Rover cars are just reskinned Hondas. 3:08 - Rover. 3:11 - Volvo 960 / S90. 5:45 - Peugeot 404, was very popular in Africa 20 years ago. 6:42 - T.Spark = twin spark, 2 spark plugs per cylinder for more efficient combustion. 8:28 - Volvo 300 series, lightweight and rear wheel drive. You could easily fit it with 2.3 Turbo engine from 740. 😀 9:42 - VW Lupo. 11:06 - Matra Murena. 11:18 - Austin Allegro estate. 14:35 - You had them in US, called Merkur XR4Ti, but those were 3 door cars. 24:25 - these two are named Renault Megane.
3:50 Citroën Xsara Break 9:55 Vauxhall Astra GTE (do not confound with Opel Kadett GSi) 10:22 Only in UK. 🤷♀ 14:35 Ford Sierra (Merkur XRKTi is based on the coupe version, but is powered with the 2.3L Turbo used on the first TBird Turbo Coupe) 20:43 Ford Cortina
Great teaction video.a few points.the mini was originally an Austin mini, the cooper was a sporty version originally developed for rallying.the mini name is now owned by BMW.The Alegro was also a Austin.thete was a Cotina made by Ford which went through 5 different marks eventually replaced by the Sierra then by the Mondeo.The Granada was the big brother of the Cortina replaced by the Saphire also briefly featured .known as the "frog eye" because of the headlight design.
I have seen him ignore a Maserati Bora for the rear windscreen wiper of some Japanes compact. It doesn't get more down to earth than that, he did some nice old Citroen BXs too. But also more coveted classics lately. He also did an "every car worthy" festival in the Netherlands, which were mainly quirky cars, very invidual choices of ordinary priced cars that are a bit different.
From here also one vote for Ian and Hubnut as well as Matt (who talks in that video) and Furious Driving, love those channels. 😎👍 Matt imported ex-cop Crown Vic from Usa and it had lots of serious rust. Ian from Hubnut imported Ford Fairmont from Australia. You really should look road test videos from those channels 😀
And he owns a 2001 Aussie Ford Fairmont! Stumbled upon his channel because he did a review of a Daewoo Espero and loved it! I did have an Espero as my first car, so somewhat emotionally attached to it 😄
We have a joke about Alfa Romeo. "Why Alfa Romeo owners do not wave themselves on a road? - Cos they already met themselves that morning. In repair shop" That tells something about reliability.
Picture if you can a three-car convoy of Mini Coppers with four blokes in each. Each man just over 6' tall and weighing 250ILbs+ each. Each car barely able to do 60mph and with their suspension bottoming out. Those were the days of playing club Rugby I remember.
Also Escorts, i had a Mercury 'something' as a rental in 1981. Basically an FWD Escort estate, with a 1.6 US 4 cylinder engine, air con, electric doodaahs everywhere, Drove nearly as well as a European Escort, apart from the very low power from the American engine routed through a lethargic automatic box. Back in the days of using the Aircon for braking down long steep hills.
The blue-ish "Tomcat" at the start is a Rover, a British car (although Rover was briefly owned by BMW before they went completely and finally under, not undeservedly so). They did actually cooperate with Honda on a different model in the era, but the "Tomcat" is all-rover.
The Metro was basically a MINI with a square body, and the replacement to the MINI. It had MINI running gear and parts were interchangeable between the two for the most part. The MINI also ended up with the turbo engine from the Metro in the ERA Turbo.
Cooper in a Mini is a spec model. Minis were maid by Morris (like in MG - Morris Garage) and by Austin. Mini's could be One, Clubman, Ima, GT's, Special's, Moke...850's, 1000,'s, 1100's up to 14000's.
12:14 the Matra Murena has the gear lever between the driver’s and the middle seat. It’s a mid engined design and rather wide. Looks a hundred thousand dollars and cost 20,000. Engines were a 1.6 90 hp and a 2.2 140 hp. It had a plastic resin bodywork on a zinc plated chassis.
Matras are cars you REALLY don't see anymore. At least here in Swwden, the Bagheeras used to be somewhat common, but I haven't seen one in decades now.
Wow, from Furiousdriving. I am a huge fan of that channel and guy who runs it, I watch everything he puts out. Its a super wholesome everyday bloke whos into cars, in the best way possible.
11:24 “look at those lines, they’re horrible in the best way” - you understood the Austin “all aggro” (Allegro) at first glance. It was a belated replacement for the British bestseller of the 1960s, the Pininfarina-embellished ADO 16 Austin/Morris 1100/1300 model, featured in this clip as an MG and referred to by our correspondent as the “ADO” (all BMC models were ADO really, because it’s the code for the car project while in development). The Allegro, as others here have commented, has an extremely bad reputation because it came out when British Leyland’s quality issues were at their worst. But it mostly suffered from the empty coffers of the company during development - in fact in a time when most of the competition had moved to real hatchbacks with good packaging, modern engines, and variable interiors, the Allegro saloon was a heavily restyled shell on basically the same layout as the car it replaced, but with less appealing style and slightly worse packaging - it had a small trunk lid, no folding rear seats, and the ageing A- and B-series four cylinder engines dating back to the fifties. And on top of that, it was unreliable and rusted in the brochure.
Like the Alfasud the extra's labour strikes (f.e. bodyshells stood unprotected outdoors) and sabotage the Allegro became the bench mark of everything that was wrong with British Leyland. So the poor guy who bought one with those free of charge extra's became a regular customer of the AA!
@@Kommisar_Lutter The AMC Gremlin is a frankenstein car, they just chopped a part of to make a compact car, The original design of the Allegro was a stunning design, BL altered the porportions to fit existing BL parts in thats why it looks like a blowfish.
My neighbour had an Allegro back in the 1970s and he loved it, he actually had it for ten years and it was trouble free. Although he did have the windscreen pop out of it on two separate occasions.
Ok , so mini is a mini, the name cooper is a racing name derived from the rally driver John cooper , who built a mini rally car back in the 60s and kicked everything out of the way. So the mini … cooper … is a high spec version of the original mini .
Something comparable in the US would be a Yenko Camaro. Think of John Cooper as being like Don Yenko. For some reason, in the US, people seem to refer to any Mini as a Mini Cooper.
@ hi , I am from the uk. , however I know the car you are talking about, Derek on vice grip garage is actually doing a yenko tribute car as a giveaway prize through merch purchases 👍although it’s a yenko nova I believe 🤔
The Mini One you also could get with a Toyota diesel, 1,5ccm or something near that, 90hp. The One is the most basic version, Cooper was the more sporty expencive option(GTI class)
11:15 The idea behind the Austin Allegro Estate was to have a two door sedan to drive to your sports venue, and an estate trunk to have your golf bag with you.
My step-granddad had an Austin Allegro, which suited him because he liked fixing cars and they needed fixing a lot :p I remember poring over his Hayes maintenance manuals, which included gems like "If your windscreen suddenly fractures, don't punch a hole through it to see, or you'll spend the rest of your life having bits of broken glass fired at you through the air vents" (with accompanying cartoon). And a textual rant about how box grids would be superfluous if people just followed the Highway Code properly at traffic lights.
The UK vintage auto scene is awesome. Plenty of quirky & fun stuff, at decent prices too compared to what can be found in 🇪🇺 if you don't mind your steering wheel on the wrong side. 😜
Also sold as the Holden Barina in Australia (succeeded by the Opel/Vauxhall Corsa B also rebadged as a Barina). The Aussies set up a one make race using their Barinas so I can import proper race spec components, such as a forged long stroke crank, forged pistons of various compression ratios and diameters and a 3 into 1 racing exhaust manifold, for my 1.0 shopping trolly 🤣 🤣🤣
@@WhiteStarTen Cool! Why do you think the Metro was underpowered? My first car was a 1.6l Nissan Almera 3door ´06 98PS (German). I loved it. The seating position was very low. You felt like a race car driver.
@@Skyliner04s My manual 5d GLX had only 68hp compared to 3d GTi. The Geo Metro was a hire car in California and an automatic which probably robbed it a bit.
My mates mum had a mini back in the day. She used to take us to Rugby practice. Her and 4 passengers, varying from 6'4 to 6'8. As you can imagine it was a bit cramped 😂😂
most modern-ish Alfa's are T Spark Engine's they use 2 plugs per chamber for increased ignition I'm guessing, apparently also used in their race cars in the 60's
@Iwrocker The Ford Sierra, the white car next o the red mini was sold in the US as Merkur XR4Ti from 1985 -1989 European Ford Scorpio was sold in the US as Merkur Scorpio.
@ 10:00 The one car I regret getting rid of is the Ford Granada 2.8 Ghia X auto, in Dark Pearlescent Blue, all the bells and whistles, doodahs, and thingamajigs. Number Plate B89 BOE.....AAAaaaarrrrgggghhhhh!
On the Ford Sierra, the beigest of beige cars, you DID get them in the US, though Ford made a new brand just for them, so you'd know them as a Merkur XR4ti Edit: Shoulda read more comments first, just saw someone else mentioned it before me. :P But I can add in you also got the Ford Scorpio under Merkur, as the Merkur Scorpio
The Ford Sierra was actually sold in the US, just not as a Ford but the as the Merkur XR4Ti. They're super rare but they where sold over there. Also the Mondeo was an european Ford sold in the US as well ;) Also Ford Germany and Ford UK were seperate entities so they made different cars, so some where sold in the UK others in the rest of europe basically.
It's funny seeing an Austin Mini, a "New" Mini and then a brand new Mini Countryman or such next to each other. I have an '05 supercharged Cooper S and it was TINY next to a Countryman :D
My dad had a Ford Granada Ghia like the one with the rear window blinds, that he used to let me drive - they were regular UK cars, but the owner of this one probably imported it as they're rare now and normally in bad shape - this one looks mint. Dad's had a smaller 2.3 litre engine, automatic, in the same gold colour (or 'Ford Champaign' to give it its correct name). Big as a boat to drive (on UK roads) but really comfortable.
The 1st car is a Rover 220 2.0 Turbo and the cheapest 150 mph car of the time. It broke many official UK Land Speed Records as possible, using the high-speed circuit at the Millbrook . . All this resulted in 37 records being broken in 1992.
You would be surprised how much there is in the original Mini. You should check out some classic saloon car racing between Minis, Mustangs, Camaros, V8 Rovers etc. The Minis pass everything through the bends on three wheels and the big V8s just about overtake again at the end of the straights - rinse and repeat, really exciting racing.
The little hatchback Volvo is a joint venture with Dutch company DAF - that also makes trucks. They were rear gearbox mounted with the diff and were popular in rallying.
Volvo 360 at 8:30 was the first second hand car I bought in 1986 when I was 19. Followed by a 440 GLT, V40 old model, twice C30, twice V40 new model and now XC40. Been driving Volvo ever since. Volvo for Life.
I'm currently driving a 04' V40. Only thing botthering me is the lack of 2 way steering wheel and the seat posistion is too high even by lowest setting. And it takes way less cargo than my former car did which was a Mk3 Mondeo. Other than than there are miniimal problems with it.
Same for me , my uncle bought one for his company and had his engineers strip it down, was so impressed he bought another 20 for his company fleet. Probably the favourite car I owned, had a nasty accident in it, probably saved my life and fixed and back on the road 2 weeks later.
We have in the Netherlands something called Supercar Sunday every year around may, begin june, i have a friend that goes there every year i go with him sometimes. Around that time you can also see Supercars on the road that are going there, or going back after the event. We have some more car events, and the friend used to go to all of them, but now he goes only to Supercar Sunday
8.33 these volvo's were produced in Born, in the south of the Netherlands where man were sold domestically. Very sturdy but not pretty as volvo's happen to be.
The joy of car shows like these is finding stuff your dad or uncle or neighbour had when you were a kid. Seeing the cloth pattern, the dash, even the smell can trigger memories and nostalgia.
Hi ! Thank you again for this video ! The Ford Sierra featured here is not the absolute basic of its brand. On the first year of production, the core basic model was wearing an absolutely weird grey plastic front grill, whatever the color of the body. These must all been gone now.
The guy who did the original video is called Matt, his channel is Furious driving, he does a car with two other "youtubers" called Rustival, i attended the most recent iteration of the show, met Matt and "Ms Hubnut" as well as ben from "Tasty Classics" as well as James from Jayemm on cars
2:53 is a Rover 220 Coupe it was based on a Honda Civic platform using Rover engines too.. there was a 216 1.6 liter with 120 bhp and a 220 turbo 2.0 liter 200 bhp turbo really fast 7.5 seconds to 60 topspeed 145 miles per hour
Vents in the pillars where pretty common in the 70s and 80s Also, rubber spoilers vinyl roofs And "washboards" on the rear window, that's what we called them in the Netherlands 😂😂
Ive been to this car show. Its really really interesting and there is nothing like it anywhere else! Next year im planning on taking my 1995 Volvo 480 to it hopefully.
FuriousDriving has a lot of cool reviews of older more normal and mundane cars that have since become rare like for example that Mondeo, and usually the videos aren't too long, so if there are any older Euopean cars you feel like exploring, there is a good chance he has a review of one that shows a good deal of the car, and tells a little about their impact on the market back during their times.
The Volvo you see at 2:08 is a Volvo 960 or maby a S90 if it's the last year in production. They changed the name 1997 to go with all the rest of the cars from Volvo when they starting to use S for the sedans a V for the estates.
*The CLASSIC CAR MOTORSHOW is happening this weekend. (8th-10th August.) NEC Birmingham.* Rover 220 Turbo 'Tomcat' based on the Honda Concerto, restyled and re-engined (T16) by Rover. Very, very fast car.
Several of the cars that you didn't recognize I believe are Rovers, e.g. at 2:11, 2:40, 3:40 (the red car). Funny that you mentioned Honda, because in the 1980s and 1990s Rover and Honda did a lot of cooperation and some Rovers were basically rebadged Hondas. When I was a child in the 80s I loved the Ford Granada and I hoped my dad would buy one, but we were quite poor and could never afford even an old used one.
"what are these vents for?" - Well back in the day, all the kids had to pile into the back and sit on the paint tins so they therefore needed some way of breathing.
I'm 6foot 2. Had 2 minis. Trick is to push the seat all the way back and get an 8inch steering wheel, that way your knees fit between the door card and steering wheel/gear stick.
Bro hit the nail on the head with the first car lol. Saying it looked like an import/Honda. I don't know about this one in particular but a lot of rovers used Honda parts and some were even just rebadged Honda's.
Hi, at some time Honda and Rover which is in picture worked together, so some Hondas in USA were Rovers or MGs in europe. I think thats why you recognise parts of the car.
Matt, Furious Driving has an ex police Crown Victoria detective's car, after it arrived with him it failed its first MOT inspection due to excessive corrosion, more expanding foam, filler and underseal than steel. He had to make both inner and outer double skinned sills and other extensive body welding. The US dealer that sold it did a bodge job so it looked good but a possible death trap, the chassis also needed structural repairs, it just looked solid. Great videos of it being repaired to UK safe condition. Don't think I'll be buying from a US dealer, sight unseen anytime soon without a comprehensive condition report.
the only reason that cars from the 80s and 90s are driving in Europe is that a periodic inspection has been introduced in Europe, which means that a car is inspected every year after +/- 5 years for safety and road worthiness and therefore maintenance cars that you don't get in America and if you are a fan of a certain brand you will deal with it better
That Citroen at 3:42 is a Xsara Break (wagon). I used to own one and it was fabulous, because it was ultra cheap to buy and maintain, and my was also a diesel, so very low consumption (6l/100km, 39 mpg). But it was dull silver. That in the video is in an awesome blue, which I wish I could own back then.
My American aunt visited for the British grand prix a couple of years ago. One of our pastimes over the weekend was just walking around the campsites so she could admire the european cars, trucks and campers. She loved them.
2:37 - It's not a coupé, Ian, it's a 2-door sedan. You can immediately tell by the open boot. 😉 3:45 - I'm surprised by his surprise to see an Xsara estate, I thought they were as popular in other european countries as they were here in Portugal. 4:25 - The Paseo was sold here too, so it wasn't a Japan or US-only vehicle. 5:45 - Another very popular pickup here, some of them are still being driven around here where I live. 6:40 - T-Spark means twin spark, i.e. two spark plugs per cylinder. 9:45 - VW hatches, from the smallest to the "biggest": Up, Lupo, Polo and Golf. Now you have no excuse for not knowing one if you see it. 🙂 9:55 - Oops, that's not a Peugeot, Ian! It's a Vauxhall Astra GTE, a rebranded Opel Kadett GSI. But I understand why you mistook the Vauxhall logo for the Peugeot one. 11:40 - Not really. The estate was just a modified version of the coupé, so the tail lights are not an after-thought, they're in the coupé's original place. 24:05 - He was wrong about those Renaults, they're not 19s, they're 1st gen Meganes.
Awesome, cars from my youth! 14:22 The early 80's Ford Sierra seemed like something from the 21st century to me! 9:31 Friends of the family owned several Austin Metro's and Mini's. 21:07 I remember fitting in such a VW with in total 8 kids, myself being seated in the boot. Oh, those days where safety was of little concern!
The normal Alegro was more aerodynamic backwards than it was forwards. Minis were made/badged by Austin, Morris, Riley(Elf, had a sticky out boot/trunk) Wolseley (hornet, same as the Riley) Vanden Plas (Posh, leather interior), Innocenti (Italian) Rover and Leyland. They were available as pick ups, vans, Moke (a Jeep type thing), Saloon/Sedan and estate.
The Geo Metro was a Suzuki Swift almost everywhere else. That British Metro was sold as both a Austin and a MG. The Volvo 340 and 360 were built in the Netherlands after Volvo took over the DAF car factory, DAF used to build cars as well, not just trucks, those DAFs were the first car with a CVT and they could go just as fast in reverse, there even was a Dutch TV show that did races with those: in reverse.
Hi, thanks for featuring this video of mine, very happy to share our slice of the motoring world!
The turquoise coupe at the beginning (the Tomcat) is from the early '90s and is a Rover 220 Coupe - and the Honda guess was very close. Rover and Honda co-developed their 80s and 90s ranges together so they have a lot of similarities. I have one of the Rovers and an Alfa 145 so there are a videos about those car on the channel
Thank you for the info too!
Oh it was a Rover. Babe looked like it but too small to verify
As a non Bot i have to agree with them, you are cranking out some gems lately. 😂 not your standard reaction channel, this is a real guy learning out of genuine interest and taking us along for the ride. You're doing it right 🤘❤️
I agree. So gem. Much reaction. Very entertainment.
@Bot.number.69420 ok Leo, nice one 🤣 69 and 420 , seems you're living the good life 😉
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at 9:42 it's a VW Lupo, there was model named 3L. Because it "kind of" could do 100 km on 3 liters of disel
That's over 78 MPG for our North American friends :-)
To achieve that it has a inline-3 (yes) 1.2 L Turbo Diesel engine with an automatic transmission, and has aluminium and magnesium alloys in doors and other body parts to have less weight
But it vever did lol, it use to do 5 or 6l for 100km
@@TheAquarius1978really? So my 2002 v40 eats less lol
@BrianLTU lol, but i live on madeira island lol, you're always going either up a mountain or down a moutain lol, all cars have higher consumptions here, compared to the factory values.
@@TheAquarius1978 ah gotcha
On the Alfa Romeo, the Tspark was exactly that. 2 sparkplugs per cylinder. Bit more power and cleaner running as the second spark burnt any leftover gasses. They fired a spit second after the 1st plug.
For a short period of time.... Then they packed up😂
@@sliderdriver1 I was dying if my friend .. License 2 months asked me what wrong with his motor. Looked on it and told him it ll just plugs, no big deal. He was so happy .. for him cheap and fast repair. So i told him he bough himself T-Spark :D Not that happy after it. Worst part he asked me the same question after about 3 years again with that he never did it :D
5.7 Hemi v8 also has 2 spark plugs per cylinder. 16 spark plugs, nice, innit?
I am 73 and have had a variety of cars here in the UK. It is nice to see these old cars again. They bring back many memories.
I had a Granada ghia during the 90s in the UK. There was no power steering and it was built like a tank. It was a good workout when i first started to drive it, but it was super comfortable for it's day.
We had one for a short time too. Pretty decent car for its time but real shit in the winter. had to put lots of weight in the back to get anywhere 😂
my first car was a 78 granada,second 84 sierrra,third 1994 mondeo,fourth 2012 focus,my fifth will be a 2022 mondeo
For old mini's watch the original ITALIAN JOB movie with Michael Caine 👌🇬🇧
In Europe you could get a basic MB S-class with hand crank windows, cloth seats and manual transmission in the 70/80's. But still got the really nice quiet ride and interior space.
Back then MB was a badge of quality and "luxury", even for the cheap models.
2:02 - Rover late 90's 200 series.
2:35 - Rover 200 coupe, a Honda Concerto in different skin. Many Rover cars are just reskinned Hondas.
3:08 - Rover.
3:11 - Volvo 960 / S90.
5:45 - Peugeot 404, was very popular in Africa 20 years ago.
6:42 - T.Spark = twin spark, 2 spark plugs per cylinder for more efficient combustion.
8:28 - Volvo 300 series, lightweight and rear wheel drive. You could easily fit it with 2.3 Turbo engine from 740. 😀
9:42 - VW Lupo.
11:06 - Matra Murena.
11:18 - Austin Allegro estate.
14:35 - You had them in US, called Merkur XR4Ti, but those were 3 door cars.
24:25 - these two are named Renault Megane.
3:50 Citroën Xsara Break
9:55 Vauxhall Astra GTE (do not confound with Opel Kadett GSi)
10:22 Only in UK. 🤷♀
14:35 Ford Sierra (Merkur XRKTi is based on the coupe version, but is powered with the 2.3L Turbo used on the first TBird Turbo Coupe)
20:43 Ford Cortina
@@AngelinaJolie734the Megane's were called 19's before the rebranding
A common misconception that the Rovers where just a reskinned Honda. Rover and Honda 50/50 developed the Honda and Rover versions together .
Great teaction video.a few points.the mini was originally an Austin mini, the cooper was a sporty version originally developed for rallying.the mini name is now owned by BMW.The Alegro was also a Austin.thete was a Cotina made by Ford which went through 5 different marks eventually replaced by the Sierra then by the Mondeo.The Granada was the big brother of the Cortina replaced by the Saphire also briefly featured .known as the "frog eye" because of the headlight design.
Thank You all for joining discussion under my post, correcting me and adding new details. 👍
Can I suggest a channel,”Hub Nut” he specialises in the mundane vehicles,but being an ex motoring journo is knowledgeable about most vintage cars too.
I have seen him ignore a Maserati Bora for the rear windscreen wiper of some Japanes compact. It doesn't get more down to earth than that, he did some nice old Citroen BXs too. But also more coveted classics lately.
He also did an "every car worthy" festival in the Netherlands, which were mainly quirky cars, very invidual choices of ordinary priced cars that are a bit different.
Another upvote for Hub Nut. Ian is a walking encyclopedia of random car knowledge.
From here also one vote for Ian and Hubnut as well as Matt (who talks in that video) and Furious Driving, love those channels. 😎👍
Matt imported ex-cop Crown Vic from Usa and it had lots of serious rust.
Ian from Hubnut imported Ford Fairmont from Australia.
You really should look road test videos from those channels 😀
And he owns a 2001 Aussie Ford Fairmont! Stumbled upon his channel because he did a review of a Daewoo Espero and loved it! I did have an Espero as my first car, so somewhat emotionally attached to it 😄
Good suggestion and a friend of Matt,(Furious Driving.)
Check out their recently held gathering “Rustival.”
We have a joke about Alfa Romeo.
"Why Alfa Romeo owners do not wave themselves on a road?
- Cos they already met themselves that morning. In repair shop"
That tells something about reliability.
Picture if you can a three-car convoy of Mini Coppers with four blokes in each. Each man just over 6' tall and weighing 250ILbs+ each. Each car barely able to do 60mph and with their suspension bottoming out. Those were the days of playing club Rugby I remember.
Plus each had a boot full of gold bullion
Regarding the Ford Sierra, you did get them in the States, as the Merkur XR4Ti (the equivalent of the Sierra XR4i here).
Also Escorts, i had a Mercury 'something' as a rental in 1981. Basically an FWD Escort estate, with a 1.6 US 4 cylinder engine, air con, electric doodaahs everywhere, Drove nearly as well as a European Escort, apart from the very low power from the American engine routed through a lethargic automatic box. Back in the days of using the Aircon for braking down long steep hills.
The Escort EXP was around in the States also. Much better than the regular Escort models.
Ford Granadas and Cortinas were available in the UK, they are part of European Ford, built both in W. Germany and England.
We had the Ford Sierra in North America, it was the Merkur XR4Ti but they were all turbo 2.3L two door coupes.
You described the Austin Allegro station wagon perfectly, so weird and ugly it's already cool. 😄
Slightly less rust prone than the (almost identical) Alfasud.
The blue-ish "Tomcat" at the start is a Rover, a British car (although Rover was briefly owned by BMW before they went completely and finally under, not undeservedly so). They did actually cooperate with Honda on a different model in the era, but the "Tomcat" is all-rover.
The Metro was basically a MINI with a square body, and the replacement to the MINI. It had MINI running gear and parts were interchangeable between the two for the most part. The MINI also ended up with the turbo engine from the Metro in the ERA Turbo.
Actually, the star of the Furious Driving channel, whose name is Matt, also has a Crown Vic.
The former rust bucket... so much welding
Cooper in a Mini is a spec model. Minis were maid by Morris (like in MG - Morris Garage) and by Austin. Mini's could be One, Clubman, Ima, GT's, Special's, Moke...850's, 1000,'s, 1100's up to 14000's.
12:14 the Matra Murena has the gear lever between the driver’s and the middle seat. It’s a mid engined design and rather wide. Looks a hundred thousand dollars and cost 20,000. Engines were a 1.6 90 hp and a 2.2 140 hp. It had a plastic resin bodywork on a zinc plated chassis.
Matras are cars you REALLY don't see anymore. At least here in Swwden, the Bagheeras used to be somewhat common, but I haven't seen one in decades now.
Wow, from Furiousdriving. I am a huge fan of that channel and guy who runs it, I watch everything he puts out. Its a super wholesome everyday bloke whos into cars, in the best way possible.
11:24 “look at those lines, they’re horrible in the best way” - you understood the Austin “all aggro” (Allegro) at first glance. It was a belated replacement for the British bestseller of the 1960s, the Pininfarina-embellished ADO 16 Austin/Morris 1100/1300 model, featured in this clip as an MG and referred to by our correspondent as the “ADO” (all BMC models were ADO really, because it’s the code for the car project while in development). The Allegro, as others here have commented, has an extremely bad reputation because it came out when British Leyland’s quality issues were at their worst. But it mostly suffered from the empty coffers of the company during development - in fact in a time when most of the competition had moved to real hatchbacks with good packaging, modern engines, and variable interiors, the Allegro saloon was a heavily restyled shell on basically the same layout as the car it replaced, but with less appealing style and slightly worse packaging - it had a small trunk lid, no folding rear seats, and the ageing A- and B-series four cylinder engines dating back to the fifties. And on top of that, it was unreliable and rusted in the brochure.
Like the Alfasud the extra's labour strikes (f.e. bodyshells stood unprotected outdoors) and sabotage the Allegro became the bench mark of everything that was wrong with British Leyland.
So the poor guy who bought one with those free of charge extra's became a regular customer of the AA!
Those allegro lines are also very similar to usdm AMC Gremlin!
@@Kommisar_Lutter The AMC Gremlin is a frankenstein car, they just chopped a part of to make a compact car,
The original design of the Allegro was a stunning design, BL altered the porportions to fit existing BL parts in thats why it looks like a blowfish.
My neighbour had an Allegro back in the 1970s and he loved it, he actually had it for ten years and it was trouble free. Although he did have the windscreen pop out of it on two separate occasions.
Ok , so mini is a mini, the name cooper is a racing name derived from the rally driver John cooper , who built a mini rally car back in the 60s and kicked everything out of the way. So the mini … cooper … is a high spec version of the original mini .
Which is also why they have the John Cooper Works versions with more spice.
@ yeah , that’s way different to the modern badged up bmw version 😂😭😂
and the mini was sold under different british brands like austin, rover, morris
Something comparable in the US would be a Yenko Camaro. Think of John Cooper as being like Don Yenko. For some reason, in the US, people seem to refer to any Mini as a Mini Cooper.
@ hi , I am from the uk. , however I know the car you are talking about, Derek on vice grip garage is actually doing a yenko tribute car as a giveaway prize through merch purchases 👍although it’s a yenko nova I believe 🤔
The Mini One you also could get with a Toyota diesel, 1,5ccm or something near that, 90hp. The One is the most basic version, Cooper was the more sporty expencive option(GTI class)
11:15 The idea behind the Austin Allegro Estate was to have a two door sedan to drive to your sports venue, and an estate trunk to have your golf bag with you.
I go to this show every year. Amazing atmosphere, great cars, great people, great chats.
Yes we had the Granada in the UK, I've had three of them back in the day.
Btw , the metro you looked at … check out the rally 6r4 metro .. you will be surprised and smiling 😮
My step-granddad had an Austin Allegro, which suited him because he liked fixing cars and they needed fixing a lot :p I remember poring over his Hayes maintenance manuals, which included gems like "If your windscreen suddenly fractures, don't punch a hole through it to see, or you'll spend the rest of your life having bits of broken glass fired at you through the air vents" (with accompanying cartoon). And a textual rant about how box grids would be superfluous if people just followed the Highway Code properly at traffic lights.
That beige Sierra you had them as a 3 door Merkur XR4ti in the US.
And about the Mini, I am 6.2 and I had one!
Lol! I had a beige Sierra. I drove from south Wales to the south of France in it.
The UK vintage auto scene is awesome. Plenty of quirky & fun stuff, at decent prices too compared to what can be found in 🇪🇺 if you don't mind your steering wheel on the wrong side. 😜
Geo Metro was Suzuki Swift in UK, The Metro here is a an Austin/Rover Metro
Also sold as the Holden Barina in Australia (succeeded by the Opel/Vauxhall Corsa B also rebadged as a Barina). The Aussies set up a one make race using their Barinas so I can import proper race spec components, such as a forged long stroke crank, forged pistons of various compression ratios and diameters and a 3 into 1 racing exhaust manifold, for my 1.0 shopping trolly 🤣 🤣🤣
GEO Metro: Europe did not have Geo Metros (afaIk).
The Geo Metro was sold here under it´s original name as the Suzuki Swift.
I had a 1.3 GLX and my friend had the 2 door 1.3 GTi - 100+hp. Had the Geo Metro as a hire car in the US and it felt underpowered
@@WhiteStarTen Cool! Why do you think the Metro was underpowered? My first car was a 1.6l Nissan Almera 3door ´06 98PS (German). I loved it. The seating position was very low. You felt like a race car driver.
@@Skyliner04s My manual 5d GLX had only 68hp compared to 3d GTi. The Geo Metro was a hire car in California and an automatic which probably robbed it a bit.
9:35 That's an MG Metro. You've seen it before in rally videos. They made a Group B version, the 6R4.
In my country the Ford Granada was known as a smash'n'grab robbers car until some Volvo picked up the torch.
The Austin Metro was originally intended to be the replacement for the iconic Mini, but were sold side by side for many years
The basis for the MG-F.
The Mini actually ended up ending production _later_ than the Metro - Metro was 1980-1997 (Rover 100) and classic Mini was 1959-2000.
@@etherealbolweevil6268 I knew a mechanic that used to say " MGF's are just back to front Metro's"
My mates mum had a mini back in the day.
She used to take us to Rugby practice.
Her and 4 passengers, varying from 6'4 to 6'8.
As you can imagine it was a bit cramped 😂😂
Wow! I also had a Ford Cortina Mk.3 in white with a black vinal roof.
9:54 That Grey Car is not a Peugeot, it´s an Opel Kadett GSI/Vauxhall Kadett GTC
Sold as Pontiac Lemans in US. Their GSI equivalent was called GSE so they had those.
most modern-ish Alfa's are T Spark Engine's they use 2 plugs per chamber for increased ignition I'm guessing, apparently also used in their race cars in the 60's
22:21 I’m surprised you missed the Skoda Fabia beside the Mercury
@Iwrocker The Ford Sierra, the white car next o the red mini was sold in the US as Merkur XR4Ti from 1985 -1989 European Ford Scorpio was sold in the US as Merkur Scorpio.
@ 10:00 The one car I regret getting rid of is the Ford Granada 2.8 Ghia X auto, in Dark Pearlescent Blue, all the bells and whistles, doodahs, and thingamajigs. Number Plate B89 BOE.....AAAaaaarrrrgggghhhhh!
9:55 that's a Vauxhall Astra GTE or Opel Kadett GSI in other countries than GB if you talking about the grey hatcback.
You did get Ford Sierra. It was the performance model badged as Merkur XR4Ti
Loving the broken gas struts on the Sierra
On the Ford Sierra, the beigest of beige cars, you DID get them in the US, though Ford made a new brand just for them, so you'd know them as a Merkur XR4ti
Edit:
Shoulda read more comments first, just saw someone else mentioned it before me. :P
But I can add in you also got the Ford Scorpio under Merkur, as the Merkur Scorpio
The Ford Sierra was actually sold in the US, just not as a Ford but the as the Merkur XR4Ti. They're super rare but they where sold over there. Also the Mondeo was an european Ford sold in the US as well ;) Also Ford Germany and Ford UK were seperate entities so they made different cars, so some where sold in the UK others in the rest of europe basically.
Don't forget the Escort EXP...
It's funny seeing an Austin Mini, a "New" Mini and then a brand new Mini Countryman or such next to each other. I have an '05 supercharged Cooper S and it was TINY next to a Countryman :D
My dad had a Ford Granada Ghia like the one with the rear window blinds, that he used to let me drive - they were regular UK cars, but the owner of this one probably imported it as they're rare now and normally in bad shape - this one looks mint.
Dad's had a smaller 2.3 litre engine, automatic, in the same gold colour (or 'Ford Champaign' to give it its correct name). Big as a boat to drive (on UK roads) but really comfortable.
My parents had an Austin allegro for years. Performed really well.
The 1st car is a Rover 220 2.0 Turbo and the cheapest 150 mph car of the time. It broke many official UK Land Speed Records as possible, using the high-speed circuit at the Millbrook . . All this resulted in 37 records being broken in 1992.
You would be surprised how much there is in the original Mini. You should check out some classic saloon car racing between Minis, Mustangs, Camaros, V8 Rovers etc. The Minis pass everything through the bends on three wheels and the big V8s just about overtake again at the end of the straights - rinse and repeat, really exciting racing.
I think he has a vid watching mini v mustang in Australia. Awesome close race.
I had a Volvo 340 for a while, my first car ever! They were great! The gearbox was phenomenal!
The little hatchback Volvo is a joint venture with Dutch company DAF - that also makes trucks. They were rear gearbox mounted with the diff and were popular in rallying.
It was developed by DAF and after DAF's takeover by Volvo further improved and sold as a Volvo.
I drive my 85' scorpio on painted steelis this winter..
Volvo 360 at 8:30 was the first second hand car I bought in 1986 when I was 19. Followed by a 440 GLT, V40 old model, twice C30, twice V40 new model and now XC40. Been driving Volvo ever since. Volvo for Life.
I'm currently driving a 04' V40. Only thing botthering me is the lack of 2 way steering wheel and the seat posistion is too high even by lowest setting. And it takes way less cargo than my former car did which was a Mk3 Mondeo. Other than than there are miniimal problems with it.
Same for me , my uncle bought one for his company and had his engineers strip it down, was so impressed he bought another 20 for his company fleet. Probably the favourite car I owned, had a nasty accident in it, probably saved my life and fixed and back on the road 2 weeks later.
We have in the Netherlands something called Supercar Sunday every year around may, begin june, i have a friend that goes there every year i go with him sometimes. Around that time you can also see Supercars on the road that are going there, or going back after the event.
We have some more car events, and the friend used to go to all of them, but now he goes only to Supercar Sunday
There is a similar car show to this one also in the UK called Rustival, that might be worth a look.
8.33 these volvo's were produced in Born, in the south of the Netherlands where man were sold domestically. Very sturdy but not pretty as volvo's happen to be.
The joy of car shows like these is finding stuff your dad or uncle or neighbour had when you were a kid. Seeing the cloth pattern, the dash, even the smell can trigger memories and nostalgia.
Hi ! Thank you again for this video ! The Ford Sierra featured here is not the absolute basic of its brand. On the first year of production, the core basic model was wearing an absolutely weird grey plastic front grill, whatever the color of the body. These must all been gone now.
I belive the L was the bare to the bone base model as it was with Capris.
The guy who did the original video is called Matt, his channel is Furious driving, he does a car with two other "youtubers" called Rustival, i attended the most recent iteration of the show, met Matt and "Ms Hubnut" as well as ben from "Tasty Classics" as well as James from Jayemm on cars
2:53 is a Rover 220 Coupe it was based on a Honda Civic platform using Rover engines too.. there was a 216 1.6 liter with 120 bhp and a 220 turbo 2.0 liter 200 bhp turbo really fast 7.5 seconds to 60 topspeed 145 miles per hour
14:17 The go-card for the road, Would recommend the Italian Job movie (1st one, not the remake with the BMW mini's even if that ones fun too) !
My first car was an Alfa 147
Loved it but it also fulfilled every Italian car cliche and loved to have all kinds of issues
Vents in the pillars where pretty common in the 70s and 80s
Also, rubber spoilers vinyl roofs
And "washboards" on the rear window, that's what we called them in the Netherlands 😂😂
Ive been to this car show. Its really really interesting and there is nothing like it anywhere else! Next year im planning on taking my 1995 Volvo 480 to it hopefully.
You can also check out Wurthersee. A beautiful meet for German cars. Especially VAG.
FuriousDriving has a lot of cool reviews of older more normal and mundane cars that have since become rare like for example that Mondeo, and usually the videos aren't too long, so if there are any older Euopean cars you feel like exploring, there is a good chance he has a review of one that shows a good deal of the car, and tells a little about their impact on the market back during their times.
The Volvo you see at 2:08 is a Volvo 960 or maby a S90 if it's the last year in production. They changed the name 1997 to go with all the rest of the cars from Volvo when they starting to use S for the sedans a V for the estates.
*The CLASSIC CAR MOTORSHOW is happening this weekend. (8th-10th August.) NEC Birmingham.*
Rover 220 Turbo 'Tomcat' based on the Honda Concerto, restyled and re-engined (T16) by Rover. Very, very fast car.
Several of the cars that you didn't recognize I believe are Rovers, e.g. at 2:11, 2:40, 3:40 (the red car). Funny that you mentioned Honda, because in the 1980s and 1990s Rover and Honda did a lot of cooperation and some Rovers were basically rebadged Hondas.
When I was a child in the 80s I loved the Ford Granada and I hoped my dad would buy one, but we were quite poor and could never afford even an old used one.
"what are these vents for?" - Well back in the day, all the kids had to pile into the back and sit on the paint tins so they therefore needed some way of breathing.
Škoda fabia next to Mercury
Not fit in a Mini? They are huge inside.
I'm 6foot 2. Had 2 minis. Trick is to push the seat all the way back and get an 8inch steering wheel, that way your knees fit between the door card and steering wheel/gear stick.
I'm 6'5" and had a mini - seat mount extenders & lengthen the steering column & it's sorted
Bro hit the nail on the head with the first car lol. Saying it looked like an import/Honda. I don't know about this one in particular but a lot of rovers used Honda parts and some were even just rebadged Honda's.
Yes the mk1 mondeo is the euro contour
2:33 Rover!
"looks like a Honda" ... yes, they had a relationship with Honda, and used Honda models as the base for the design of their own models.
14:00 that little car has a rally racing pedigree.
14:25 but put a Cosworth in it and it’s the fastest four-door sedan of the late 80’s
Hi, at some time Honda and Rover which is in picture worked together, so some Hondas in USA were Rovers or MGs in europe. I think thats why you recognise parts of the car.
Matt, Furious Driving has an ex police Crown Victoria detective's car, after it arrived with him it failed its first MOT inspection due to excessive corrosion, more expanding foam, filler and underseal than steel. He had to make both inner and outer double skinned sills and other extensive body welding. The US dealer that sold it did a bodge job so it looked good but a possible death trap, the chassis also needed structural repairs, it just looked solid. Great videos of it being repaired to UK safe condition. Don't think I'll be buying from a US dealer, sight unseen anytime soon without a comprehensive condition report.
More Videos Like this please i suggest eds Auto Reviews he was at Event too i think
the only reason that cars from the 80s and 90s are driving in Europe is that a periodic inspection has been introduced in Europe, which means that a car is inspected every year after +/- 5 years for safety and road worthiness and therefore maintenance cars that you don't get in America and if you are a fan of a certain brand you will deal with it better
Geo Metro was my first car 😀
You can't beat the interior of the 80s cars.
Old English vinyl 😂😂
The better option when compared with that Orange and Brown striped polyester sort of fabric that decayed in sunlight.
Del boy classic 😂
Ford granada = ford falcons in Australia. Kind of...
I realy miss my Ford Granada 2,3 liter V6
Metro is Mg metro.you've seen the 6rv metro in group b rally
That Citroen at 3:42 is a Xsara Break (wagon). I used to own one and it was fabulous, because it was ultra cheap to buy and maintain, and my was also a diesel, so very low consumption (6l/100km, 39 mpg). But it was dull silver. That in the video is in an awesome blue, which I wish I could own back then.
My American aunt visited for the British grand prix a couple of years ago. One of our pastimes over the weekend was just walking around the campsites so she could admire the european cars, trucks and campers. She loved them.
You should, at some time, put on a Mini.
I used to drive one, and I'm 6'3. A bit cramped, but doable.
2:37 - It's not a coupé, Ian, it's a 2-door sedan. You can immediately tell by the open boot. 😉
3:45 - I'm surprised by his surprise to see an Xsara estate, I thought they were as popular in other european countries as they were here in Portugal.
4:25 - The Paseo was sold here too, so it wasn't a Japan or US-only vehicle.
5:45 - Another very popular pickup here, some of them are still being driven around here where I live.
6:40 - T-Spark means twin spark, i.e. two spark plugs per cylinder.
9:45 - VW hatches, from the smallest to the "biggest": Up, Lupo, Polo and Golf. Now you have no excuse for not knowing one if you see it. 🙂
9:55 - Oops, that's not a Peugeot, Ian! It's a Vauxhall Astra GTE, a rebranded Opel Kadett GSI. But I understand why you mistook the Vauxhall logo for the Peugeot one.
11:40 - Not really. The estate was just a modified version of the coupé, so the tail lights are not an after-thought, they're in the coupé's original place.
24:05 - He was wrong about those Renaults, they're not 19s, they're 1st gen Meganes.
Awesome, cars from my youth! 14:22 The early 80's Ford Sierra seemed like something from the 21st century to me! 9:31 Friends of the family owned several Austin Metro's and Mini's. 21:07 I remember fitting in such a VW with in total 8 kids, myself being seated in the boot. Oh, those days where safety was of little concern!
The normal Alegro was more aerodynamic backwards than it was forwards.
Minis were made/badged by Austin, Morris, Riley(Elf, had a sticky out boot/trunk) Wolseley (hornet, same as the Riley) Vanden Plas (Posh, leather interior), Innocenti (Italian) Rover and Leyland. They were available as pick ups, vans, Moke (a Jeep type thing), Saloon/Sedan and estate.
The Geo Metro was a Suzuki Swift almost everywhere else. That British Metro was sold as both a Austin and a MG. The Volvo 340 and 360 were built in the Netherlands after Volvo took over the DAF car factory, DAF used to build cars as well, not just trucks, those DAFs were the first car with a CVT and they could go just as fast in reverse, there even was a Dutch TV show that did races with those: in reverse.
Nottice the Ford Mercury they are rebaged in australia as the holden commodore in the late 1980s