The truck has basically 15 Powerwalls worth of batteries. You expect that for $45k? It's a far better deal than the Cybertruck, which is $25k more, even more spartan and inside, and a bit over half the real world range.
Freezing? I feel like there are more than ever being sold. People spend how much for a basic 4runner or tacoma with basically the bare minimum? 75k isn't insane for an EV with this kind of range. It is strange tho that they included a 360 camera and adaptive cruise control, but not heated seats. Still, this truck has the longest range of any EV at the time of writing this. I see a niche market here.
It's hard to profit from them due to battery cost. It's not like this truck will be making huge margins. This whole thing part of the game to make Americans less independent. Unnecessarily raise the cost of everything, based on a false premise of "doing good", in order to force people out of gas cars and homes and into condos and apartments with limited range vehicles, all under the guise of environmentalism, when it's really to keep people easier to corral and contain.
@@getrippedincAlmost every EV depreciates like a rock so I wouldn’t be surprised seeing it for 40k in a year. An electric work truck is such a niche product that very few people would actually want.
@@TroySavaryyeah I'm sure the 35lbs of extra equipment would destroy the range. Personally I don't mind as I move the seat once when I buy a vehicle and never again
@bobman717 No, I don't mean that the seats destroy range, but that no other EV trucks offer a battery this size, especially for the price. So you could choose another truck to get power seats but you will take a huge range hit.
Just picked one up for 67,000. Going to save me $800 a month in fuel cost. Texas has an electric plan for free night time charging. Works perfect as a roofing sales and repair truck. Can put my drills and battery powered tools up front in the trunk and charge them when I drive.
This what happens when you don't put your full effort Into an ev and just try to make a buck on the hot ev market. They missed with the hummer and now have gotten worse
like doesnt the lightning literally start around 40k? if thats its competition why price it so much above? maybe they thought the range would carry it through dealerships
Most high capability trucks these days are in this price range. Ram 3500s, Ford F350s, Even Chevy trucks(non-EV) are in this price range these days. Basically, anything that is a Duelley is in this price range.
They missed the boat of the basic work truck with the single cab for the lone service guy who needs to haul a crew of himself and his tools and supplies. A smart accessible storage. As well as an 8' bed and mounting points for aftermarket camper shells and utility racks.
I'm sure the crew cab is necessary to house all the batteries this thing requires underneath. Single cab would probably have terrible range, and also it would be harder for them to ask this much money for it.
@@quintonulm2435 Single cab long bed would probably have good range. Short bed would have issues, sure but a long bed would be very empty at the bottom.
I'm glad someone else said it. I work for my local county public works department and I can see a few roles where this EV could replace a traditional ICE truck. However, that short bed crew cab configuration makes it almost a non starter. And I'd hate to be the guy that finds the first leak in that mid tailgate separating the cab from the bed on trash day.
It's funny that in this video he's talking about the feature to open the truck bed into the interior like it's kind of dumb or useless or something. In reality for someone who actually does anything besides drive to the donut shop. That feature is incredibly useful, totally necessary. And over the years in an Avalanche i owned every guy who's seen me do that with the Avalanche and then put a ton of stuff in it, was totally in love with that vehicle at that point.
As a Chevy sales guy these things are sitting, we got 2 of them about 3 months ago and we’ve had maybe 5 people even look at them, it’s way too much for the average consumer and if you’re spending that much money why would you get the fully loaded one? Also they RST is starting at 97k not 107k. I also find it crazy that the WORK TRUCK trim doesn’t have the coolest feature which is the pass through bed, I had a customer that was going to buy to and write it off for his company but because it didn’t have that pass through and the fact the drivers seat has no lumbar support, I understand that they’re expensive to build but it only works in the hummer/high trims
@@Invrexs I agree, some people are too eager to incur business expenses due to "tax write off!". Not to go off on a tangent but the easier thing to do is realize the entire system is fraudulent and that participation is voluntary. If they print billions for their bills, why do they need people to pay them? Check around the popular book website for the "how to" about freeing oneself from legal tyranny, through knowledge of the UCC. The real full title name can't be written in YT comments or else the spam filter will catch it. That's how you know a nonfiction book is good. It's short too and cheap.
Local gmc /buick dealer in my town has an orange new ev hummer sitting on the front of the dealer where the dealer “showcases” their better cars. It’s been sitting for a while now. People in my town don’t have that kind of money. 😂
Nah all the truck guys will buy it. They don’t mind paying ridiculous prices for trucks ($1300+ a month) to have the “cool new truck.” This is coming from a gen 1 raptor owner. They’re going to lose hella equity though
You can (almost) buy TWO base ICE F-150s for one of these as they cost about $38k. I don’t need a spacious rear seat, I need a longer bed in back to haul building materials. I don’t want my employees drag racing other drivers. I don’t need 4 wheel drive. I don’t need 450 mile range, driving to a job site 200 miles away (and back) uses up most of the work day. Complete and total miss.
GM is absolutely clueless if they actually believe people will even consider this thing as a work truck, especially at this price point. If you're an actual professional and need a barebones work truck but want it to be electric, literally just get a Transit van. None of the currently available electric pickup trucks make any sense as work vehicles because, as you said, you want them to have a long bed and no rear seats, but all the electric trucks you can get are shortbed crew cab models.
The price is mostly irrelevant to me due to cost savings on fuel and maintenance over how many miles my work trucks see. We drive around 100-200 miles per day going from site to site. Trucks could charge at home and the company would pay for it all and it'd save money long term. Hell, some of our trucks are already this expensive or more so. But as long as these things have 5'-6' boxes they're absolutely useless. I absolutely need an 8' bed in a work truck. With any cab and 8' bed I'd 100% be a buyer but a 5-6' box wouldn't fit half my supplies.
@@DrGand There is the folding midgate that might allow e.g. 4'x8' sheets (see 9:30). But it seems like you'd have to strap them down to not crush the front row in a crash.
It’s clearly for fleet buyers, who need the capability and range but not the style or comfort - to help them meet emissions rules. There’s plenty of others choices out there for lifestyle buyers.
The only thing I can think is that GM got a government order for a bunch of these. I know the National Parks are committed to only having EV in their fleet. I can imagine getting permission for buying this is easier than other, more tricked out, alternatives.
It's definitely a fleet truck. A company's CFO can justify the cost over 48 months as that's about the breakeven point for comparing to a gas truck and the cost to fuel. I agree, it's probably being pushed by high level meetings between GM and their major fleet customers.
i’ve worked on these for police fleet use and Port Authority fleet use and they’re becoming very popular. To the average person i don’t see these selling much
I am wondering if this is a similar to how Aston Martin rebadged a smart car in order to meet the regulations of having X average percentage of emissions across their lineup. Maybe GM never intended anyone to actual buy this ugly, overpriced POS.
@@pablomax9376 I've always kinda suspected the same - that the automakers don't expect these models to actually be successful, but the morons in the government are basically forcing them to try.
lol it's comical how quickly people get used to something. Pre 2021 it was very common for cars to lose 40-50% within the first 2-3 years. in fact most leases have residual values in that range.
@@ronald4life1 It was more like 25% after 2 years. Unless it was a Honda, Toyota, Subaru then it was around 10%-15% after 2 years. However, you weren’t financing @ >7% it was around 2.5%-3% EVs depreciate worse than smartphones.
@@mikedelape6609 I’m about to buy a 2024 Land Cruiser. It’s not quite $75k but it’ll still be worth a lot more than this truck in 5 years. Everything is at least 30% more expensive than it was 4 years ago. EVs are still undergoing growing pains, they’re almost disposable at this point. 5-7 years from now this EV Truck’s specs will be laughable compared to what you’ll be able to get at that price point. It’ll be like an iPhone 3G compared to an iPhone 15.
I have a few issues with your rant at 21:20. Truck buyers are more interested in capabilities than style. I sell pre-owned vehicles and when it comes to trucks I have had trouble moving the lighting because my customers all either need to tow or need to work, and those are not people I would recommend an EV to. This truck actually seems like decent rig, if only they could get the price down about 15k or more.
Especially because heated seats are one of the easiest ways to increase range on an EV. Instead of having to heat the whole giant cabin, you just heat the people directly.
@@Techfanatic73 My 2011 base model got 6.0 0-60 stock. At the time it was faster than a Raptor but it was as basic as it got, crank windows and 4x4 on the floor. Speed =/= high trim.
It is absurd to call this thing a work truck. I bought a brand new four-cylinder Nissan frontier and 2017 for $16,700. Here we are seven years later and as far as I know, you can’t get any new truck for less than $30,000, that is totally insane. I guess I’m going to drive my 2001 model Tacoma and 2017 frontier for the rest of my life and I’m only middle-aged. I am not willing to get ripped off in any transaction in life. Somebody is gonna come along and blow all these makers out of the water with an affordable truck.
What you say is true, but the days of a sub $20k work truck are gone, and they aren't coming back. And it's OUR fault, the customer. That said, I would argue that this IS a work truck but for a very specific buyer. Imagine your gig includes daily towing: car hauling, generator, wood chipper, water tanks, tool trailers, parts, whatever. A gas truck towing will be lucky to get 8mpg in the city. At $3.50 gallon, call it 43 cents per mile in fuel. This truck towing will get 1 mile per kwh. In Ohio, I pay 7 cents per kwh so call it 7 cents per mile. That's a HUGE difference. Now imagine you log 100 miles a day towing in your work truck. Imagine you do that 5 days a week, 50 weeks a year. I'll do the math for you; gas cost=$10750 per year, EV cost=$1750 per year. The EV requires NO MAINTENANCE! No oil changes, no belt to snap, no exhaust to rot, no $8000 transmission to fail, no tune up, no starter...literally nothing. Because of regen, even the brakes will last 5 times as long on the EV. In 5 years of daily city towing, the gas truck will be a clapped out money pit. The EV will still be maintenance free and good as new. Even if the battery degrades 50% (it wont) it'll still have twice what you actually need. Conclusion: run the numbers and the EV is a bargain.
I feel like your video must have been recorded a long time ago. Not only is the RST already being shipped to customers, but even the GMC Sierra EV is starting deliveries. That being said, the strategy of starting with the WT is that fleet buyers are basically guaranteed demand up front. The fact that several of those fleets were rental companies also adds the benefit of getting these trucks into customer hands very quickly.
@@Jlemus01 pretty much. People forget that these are going to be bought by GSA and sent to military bases all around the world. Apparently the pentagon has stated they were going to electrify their fleet vehicles as a means to reduce their carbon footprint.
99.9% of companies wants to spend as little money as possible and bring in as much income as possible. Spending 74k times 10,20,50 is just not a smart financial decision. Buying regular Silverado WT or Colorado WT’s would be so much smarter
That giant rectangle slapped on the dash with giant bezels on top of bezels winds up shrinking the size of the screen to like 7”, it looks horrible, cheap, and outdated. It looks like something out of a ten year old Polaris Slingshot. All for the low, low price, of seventy four thousand American dollarydoos.
I rented one of these for a few days. Loved the range, acceleration, and camera system on such a large vehicle. I would consider buying one for like half the price.
@@95mushroomNo, they absolutely should not be. Unless they automatically come on when starting the vehicle and shut off when the vehicle is off. Relying on automatic lights is why so many idiots drive around with no lights in hazardous conditions. It's best practice to just always have them on anyway. "Lights on for safety" and what not.
@@VoidOneGamer No, so many idiots drive around with no lights at night because they "think they're smarter then the car" and switch the car off from auto. GM's system works as Auto-On, every single time. Even if you switch the lights off, the next time the car turns on, its back to Auto-On. Its been this way with GM cars for 20 years, and it should be industry standard at this point.
@95mushroom Well, my 04 buick had it and it wasn't something that could be relied on. Even the modern GM trucks I drive, I don't prefer they decide when my headlights turn on. Because they don't unless it's dark. Running lights come on instead. As a part of my job, I sit in the side of the road and take phone calls or do paperwork, and I don't want my lights on when I'm doing that...strobes yes but don't want to give the impression I'm moving if I'm not.
This truck is so well equipped for the price. I love the vinyl floors. The fact that any vehicle has carpet inside baffles my mind. The plastic around the bottom of the body is fantastic for longevity with rust. 75k for a truck that will save 5k per year in fuel is fantastic.
I work at a Chevy dealership in the shop and we have one of these that's bricked with 7 miles on it 🤣 and the suspension collapsed in on PF. All for 97k. I don't have faith in these.
17:45 they designed this very well. there is no lack of storage. the seats fold up and allow you to slide some big piece of equipment in that space. if there was a larger storage tray underneath the rear seat you couldn't put a bandsaw or such in the rear. it's a work truck.
The market would offer that truck if enough people wanted it. I stopped wanting a straight cab truck when I was 19 and there was no room for stuff and a person in the cab of my truck at the same time.
As someone who only buys vinyl seats and floor trucks, I am glad they are offering this, but the price is crazy. I get the giant battery isn't cheap, but it really needs to be $55k for that interior (which i am all about). If the equivalent gas work truck is say $45k, you got $30k for gas and additional maintenance which is quite a bit.
Family member of mine got a brand new F-250 Duper Duty to use for his construction company. He paid disgustingly little out of pocket after write offs and incentives. He ownes it outright for less thsn I spend monthly on groceries. Thats what will likely happen with these WT Silverados. Without that scenario, the pricing is absolutely absurd. However, the amount of Hummers, Rivians, Lightnings and now even Cybertrucks i see in my area (Metro Detroit area) is ridiculous. They're everywhere! Despite price tags, people are affording them. Theres obviously something we dont know...
The work truck is meant for commercial/fleet buyers, not average joes. The basic Chevy ICE pickup we use at work was over $60 grand, but it costs more to operate and maintain.
My first thought too, but then I considered the application where you need bodies more than tools, like a painting company or lawn service. I agree it's a tough sell but not /completely/ silly. Hopefully they will eventually offer other configurations.
@fullsenderman8291 he doesn't need to have used one for work, many fleet buyers do not need crew cabs for their fleets. Regular cabs or extended cabs often do everything they need.
@@hellocar123 i mean in a literall sense it is, but to consider the fact that the msrp is 96k and this is before auto retailers get their grubby hands on them, it's anything but sensible, yet alone cheap. Annnnd I'm keeping my quotation marks 🤭
I have a 2023 Trail Boss Colorado with the same infotainment. You can modify the shortcuts on the left. You hold, drag and drop. Allows you to add the camera shortcut (and others) on the side. Always accessible.
I thought the wireless charging would be great paired with wireless CarPlay in my super duty. After using for a week I noticed that the wireless charging wouldn’t charge fast enough to keep the battery from dying while using CarPlay lol. I use a charge cable now.
Most people buy 3rd party phone holders of some sort. OEM’s should build some sort of pull out or flip out wireless charging phone holder that also has feet. And give you an adapter for tablets also.
And what’s with the bezels being ⅔ of the surface area of the displays. This is dumb, displays are cheap. If you’re gonna put in the real estate, fill it up with display.
I was in contracting for years, and our fleet had much more expensive trucks that couldn't tow as much. You can write these off, and if you add in the almost zero maintenance and low low fuel costs comparatively... This thing is a home run for a local contractor, even at $75,000.
My brother got one of these while his truck was at the dealership. It was awesome but only as a rental. Very quick and comfortable ride. Sound system was alright and it seems to be well built. But charging infrastructure is terrible and expensive plus the range isn’t great if you drive at Texas speeds. He said it would be an awesome truck for 35k. Not 90 after markups.
I think the work truck would sell better around the 40k price point. Some companies might not mind the higher price for tax reasons. The RST version should be around 70k. These manufacturers are pricing a lot of us out of the truck market.Im a loyal GM owner, but I don't see myself buying any truck over 2010 year.😢
GM aren't trying to sell these EV trucks, they're just trying to comply with government mandates. It's a waste of money and time and resources on their part and ours.
@@bahamatodd it is true. If you can make one its not hard to make the other. they have been doing that for decades. The alternative is get rid of V8s like Ram and say goodbye to Corvette while you are at it.
Two of them showed up at my local Chevy dealership about 4 weeks ago. Both of them also white paint like featured here. Both of them obscenely expensive. Both of them still sit on the lot each day, but the sales staff moves them around every couple days to maintain the façade of continually changing inventory...
@@bk_nreynolds3278 that is one thing I actually do like about the Silverado EV because the range is actually pretty good especially for electric pick up truck probably one of the best of any electric pick up.
That price is insane. I really don't see companies buying these as fleet vehicles. So much for the promise of EVs being cheaper than ICE vehicles. It was a fairy tale all along.
its because someone set the price high and people are paying it. People are buying the Ford Lightning EVs, Tesla cybertrucks, and Rivian R1Ts, and those are going for 100k or more. thats now the base price, and anyone who goes lower is throwing out free profit. this is a 35000 truck with a 13000 battery and a massive upcharge, which is exactly what we should have expected without any government intervention preventing price gouging.
People started idealizing EVs as a "luxury" because Tesla was the only real option for a while. Manufacturers ran with that market and counterintuitively made the "economical" EV archetype into a rolling entertainment center, rather than something sensible and simple like I recall EVs being conceptualized as.
There is an “OFF” button hidden on the top left of the center display. Took me forever to find. You need to shut it off if you don’t exit the vehicle right away after putting the vehicle in park. The truck will remain “ON” in ACC mode until you hit that hidden button (quirk).
I use the F-150 Lightning as a work truck, and the absolute worst thing about it, besides the range, is the automatic front trunk. It takes forever to open and close. I'd rather do it manually. Also, because I have a ladder rack, I always worry that the hood is going to hit the top of the rack or when I'm carrying something on the rack. Besides that, it's the best truck I've ever owned.
I don't believe manufacturers at all with their range numbers. It's ridiculous. One quick search will show you how bad these ranges get when it gets cold, and I mean really cold out. We need some laws passed so that just like city/highway mpg ranges, we get "optimal" and COLD ranges.
I tend to agree with you that they are overstated, but I have seen a couple of tests that where done at 70 mph and It actually pretty much got what it advertised.
Cars/Trucks keep getting more expensive and worker's wages are stagnant. Automakers are going to keep milking these high prices for as long as they can. Some brands have inflated their prices to almost double what the actual inflation rate is.
He has a specific scale of 0-60 times for that category. Believe it or not the Lightning goes 0-60 in 4 seconds flat and this actually takes over 5 seconds, but yes it does seem like a score of 4 seems too low.
I disagree wit many of Doug's points. i don't think the majority would want pretty looks in exchange for 4 wheel drive and range. As an EV owner, I'd take range over pretty interior any day. The range is super nice. The price is what hold me back. I would also take this over the Rivian (too small) or the Lightening (just as expensive and not enough range) anytime.
what do you mean no driver assist? it comes standard with lane keep assist, auto breaking, side blind zone, pedestrian breaking, and collision alert, you keep calling it stripped down but if it had carpet, heated and a power driver seat it would be an LT, it already has a power steering wheel I've had to do a proposal for fleet purchase and this is really understating the features on this truck, the pricing right now also gets 7500 off, very behind on the update not defending how expensive it is, but youve also got some of the stats wrong. the 74k version doesnt drive 450, but it tows 11k instead. the 450 version tows 10k and is 79k.
Just crazy the amount of things a 74k truck DOESN'T HAVE! I get it's the work /fleet version but it should be a 40k work truck. Probably why they're making the base model 1st to see how well it'll sell at that crazy price before they bring out the RST for over 100k. Its just wild were talking about a 74k work truck hahaha
Why would you buy this base work truck for $75k when you could get a low mileage and optioned out Silverado High Country or Sierra Denali for roughly the same price?
Well, if you're a fleet buyer, costs are paramount. The fact that yearly operational costs are next to nothing for many years on this guy is what some fleet buyers are already discovering.
Doug might be off about work truck buyers not wanting the fancy or comfy features, but he's right about it being priced too high. For $75k, I would expect heated seats at least. My $20k Spark even had heated seats. Nice to see higher range finally.
Doug, I think you touched on it yourself: It seems clear to me that the target customer for this truck is a fleet buyer. It makes sense for a business owner to buy one or several of these. They don't care much about luxury features for their employees to enjoy while driving the trucks, but they DO care about the immense fuel and maintenance cost savings relative to gas/diesel trucks. As for that huge range, it's for towing! This truck has so much energy capacity that it might actually be able to travel for 2-3 hours between charge stops while towing a large trailer at highway speeds.
I've been getting the vibe for awhile now that we are seeing products produced that not many want and the response is to admonish the customer base instead of focusing on producing a good product
@@dannydaw59 give me a new Tacoma for 30k. A Tundra for 45k. Naturally aspirated. Keep all the BS electronics. I don't want a message appearing on the dash telling me to go to the dealer for service because there's a problem with the "active grill shutters" which shouldn't even be a thing. If you want a good example, look up the guy with the 2018 F-150 who had to spend $6500 in repairs because he got moisture in his taillights which prevented his truck from starting. The cost of the new taillights alone was over $3k from Ford because they are loaded with unnecessary electronics and sensors. It's utter nonsense.
"basic and stripped down" hits different at 75 grand
Double the price of what it should be no doubt
This isn't the "base stripped down" model.
They think they are porsche.
@@TakuroSpirit77 please explain how the base model is not the basic stripped down model
@@killersealslow IQ comment
They missed the opportunity for the EVALANCHE
EV + Avalanche = Evalanche
Yep.
oh dang
That's a completely different class of trucks though, it might still happen lol
It's coming believe that. Caddy EVXT next.
It's a $35k truck with a $40k battery.
Well said!
And another 40k to replace 😂
It is what it is. Worth it.
@@lgmisfit10 Yes, that's how money works.
That's exactly what it is.
This should be a $45K truck and offered as a direct to consumer model. No BS dealership games.
I’m pretty sure there are some government regulations for certain companies to sell via dealerships?
They would lose huge money on every truck sold. I bet at $70k they break even
@@kstorm889 and that's with huge fed subsidies
The truck has basically 15 Powerwalls worth of batteries. You expect that for $45k? It's a far better deal than the Cybertruck, which is $25k more, even more spartan and inside, and a bit over half the real world range.
Illegal for them to sell directly to consumers
75K on a base model work truck.....When EV sales are freezing, and depreciation is like Niagara falls. Greeeeaaaaat
Freezing? I feel like there are more than ever being sold. People spend how much for a basic 4runner or tacoma with basically the bare minimum? 75k isn't insane for an EV with this kind of range. It is strange tho that they included a 360 camera and adaptive cruise control, but not heated seats. Still, this truck has the longest range of any EV at the time of writing this. I see a niche market here.
Folks at GM have lost their fricken minds with this pricing structure. No bailout this time, let the market decide GM's fate in the future.
Funny how socialism is ok for multi billion dollar corporations but not for us normies. 😂
@@drunkpolack7612 really? the stockholders lost everything the UAW was bailed out
the stockholders lost everything the UAW was bailed out
100%...I didn't like it then, I REALLY wouldn't like it now.
@@stanmarcusgtv not even close
GM gave it the "we don't want to sell EVs" price
@@VenomSnakee and look. What a truly unattractive vehicle, especially against traditional trucks and Rivian
😂
lol 👌😂👍
It's hard to profit from them due to battery cost. It's not like this truck will be making huge margins. This whole thing part of the game to make Americans less independent. Unnecessarily raise the cost of everything, based on a false premise of "doing good", in order to force people out of gas cars and homes and into condos and apartments with limited range vehicles, all under the guise of environmentalism, when it's really to keep people easier to corral and contain.
Even Ford did a better ev pickup... Lol
Can’t wait for these to be on the used maker for 35k in 1 year with 3000 miles on it.
@@MyJDavis me too 😂
I hope so this would be an EPIC vehicle for the price that could act as backup power for my lake house during short outtages
@@MyJDavis you wish
@@getrippedincAlmost every EV depreciates like a rock so I wouldn’t be surprised seeing it for 40k in a year. An electric work truck is such a niche product that very few people would actually want.
Just like Tesla's 😂. I can't wait to buy a used EV for next to nothing.
75K with manual seat adjustment is criminal. What the actual f
Choose between fancy seats or actual usable range in an EV truck. Easy choice for soneone who uses it for actual work.
@@TroySavaryyeah I'm sure the 35lbs of extra equipment would destroy the range. Personally I don't mind as I move the seat once when I buy a vehicle and never again
@bobman717 No, I don't mean that the seats destroy range, but that no other EV trucks offer a battery this size, especially for the price. So you could choose another truck to get power seats but you will take a huge range hit.
it's because of the expensive battery package.
How often do you need to move the seat once you have set it for yourself?
Just picked one up for 67,000. Going to save me $800 a month in fuel cost. Texas has an electric plan for free night time charging. Works perfect as a roofing sales and repair truck. Can put my drills and battery powered tools up front in the trunk and charge them when I drive.
Gonna cost you 1,500 a month in depreciation. Enjoy
@@jjjnout6778 Why not be excited for the dude? Go outside and sniff some grass buddy
Congratulations. Is it true that insurance is much higher for EVs since the smallest accident near the battery will total the vehicle?
@@NordestadaThanks. I've been driving a 2003 Ford F-350, and this truck is costing about $50 more per month with Farmers insurance.
Actually, you can most likely charge your tools in the truck as the truck itself is charging.
LOL. A work truck for $74k. Who is going to buy this?
If it wasn’t electric. Lots of buyers. Lol. Powerful work trucks are going for that price. Like the F-250 F-350. Ram 2500-3500
The average American of course
@@1hundredzthose are 3/4 ton trucks. This is not.
People with jobs....
no worries, this is getting discontinued by March next year
would have made sense around 55k for a good fleet EV work truck but starting at 74k is insane.
when they gonna struggle to sell it thats probably gonna be the discount price it will be sold by the dealers lol
They're probably still losing money on it at 74k
Not even that. Should be 35 and then we would get it at 55k when it hits the dealers
This what happens when you don't put your full effort Into an ev and just try to make a buck on the hot ev market. They missed with the hummer and now have gotten worse
like doesnt the lightning literally start around 40k? if thats its competition why price it so much above? maybe they thought the range would carry it through dealerships
I love how these “work” trucks are no where near “work” prices…
They tryin to get those corporations
Most high capability trucks these days are in this price range. Ram 3500s, Ford F350s, Even Chevy trucks(non-EV) are in this price range these days.
Basically, anything that is a Duelley is in this price range.
I agree. It's very overpriced. Which is typical for GM.
Government agencies will buy them for fleet vehicles no doubt
@@kingzach74But the Silverado EV is not one of those. Why would you spend just as much to get a less capable vehicle just because it’s electric?
They missed the boat of the basic work truck with the single cab for the lone service guy who needs to haul a crew of himself and his tools and supplies. A smart accessible storage. As well as an 8' bed and mounting points for aftermarket camper shells and utility racks.
I'm sure the crew cab is necessary to house all the batteries this thing requires underneath. Single cab would probably have terrible range, and also it would be harder for them to ask this much money for it.
@@quintonulm2435 Single cab long bed would probably have good range. Short bed would have issues, sure but a long bed would be very empty at the bottom.
I'm glad someone else said it.
I work for my local county public works department and I can see a few roles where this EV could replace a traditional ICE truck. However, that short bed crew cab configuration makes it almost a non starter. And I'd hate to be the guy that finds the first leak in that mid tailgate separating the cab from the bed on trash day.
It's funny that in this video he's talking about the feature to open the truck bed into the interior like it's kind of dumb or useless or something. In reality for someone who actually does anything besides drive to the donut shop. That feature is incredibly useful, totally necessary. And over the years in an Avalanche i owned every guy who's seen me do that with the Avalanche and then put a ton of stuff in it, was totally in love with that vehicle at that point.
As a Chevy sales guy these things are sitting, we got 2 of them about 3 months ago and we’ve had maybe 5 people even look at them, it’s way too much for the average consumer and if you’re spending that much money why would you get the fully loaded one? Also they RST is starting at 97k not 107k.
I also find it crazy that the WORK TRUCK trim doesn’t have the coolest feature which is the pass through bed, I had a customer that was going to buy to and write it off for his company but because it didn’t have that pass through and the fact the drivers seat has no lumbar support, I understand that they’re expensive to build but it only works in the hummer/high trims
Whats the point of using the trucks as tax write offs if he still has to pay money for the trucks? Its not like theyll be free or anything
@@Invrexs I agree, some people are too eager to incur business expenses due to "tax write off!". Not to go off on a tangent but the easier thing to do is realize the entire system is fraudulent and that participation is voluntary. If they print billions for their bills, why do they need people to pay them? Check around the popular book website for the "how to" about freeing oneself from legal tyranny, through knowledge of the UCC. The real full title name can't be written in YT comments or else the spam filter will catch it. That's how you know a nonfiction book is good. It's short too and cheap.
@@Invrexs Tax break? It's a simple concept not sure why you don't understand it.
Pass-through & bed step
Local gmc /buick dealer in my town has an orange new ev hummer sitting on the front of the dealer where the dealer “showcases” their better cars. It’s been sitting for a while now. People in my town don’t have that kind of money. 😂
This will be a sales disaster.
Nah all the truck guys will buy it. They don’t mind paying ridiculous prices for trucks ($1300+ a month) to have the “cool new truck.” This is coming from a gen 1 raptor owner. They’re going to lose hella equity though
Hopefully
absolutely
@@Michael_Grayregular truck guys won't buy an EV truck.
It already is...gm has delayed production
You can (almost) buy TWO base ICE F-150s for one of these as they cost about $38k. I don’t need a spacious rear seat, I need a longer bed in back to haul building materials. I don’t want my employees drag racing other drivers. I don’t need 4 wheel drive. I don’t need 450 mile range, driving to a job site 200 miles away (and back) uses up most of the work day. Complete and total miss.
GM is absolutely clueless if they actually believe people will even consider this thing as a work truck, especially at this price point. If you're an actual professional and need a barebones work truck but want it to be electric, literally just get a Transit van. None of the currently available electric pickup trucks make any sense as work vehicles because, as you said, you want them to have a long bed and no rear seats, but all the electric trucks you can get are shortbed crew cab models.
@pauls4002 you sound like you know of what you speak. This is insane!
The price is mostly irrelevant to me due to cost savings on fuel and maintenance over how many miles my work trucks see. We drive around 100-200 miles per day going from site to site. Trucks could charge at home and the company would pay for it all and it'd save money long term. Hell, some of our trucks are already this expensive or more so.
But as long as these things have 5'-6' boxes they're absolutely useless. I absolutely need an 8' bed in a work truck.
With any cab and 8' bed I'd 100% be a buyer but a 5-6' box wouldn't fit half my supplies.
@@DrGand There is the folding midgate that might allow e.g. 4'x8' sheets (see 9:30). But it seems like you'd have to strap them down to not crush the front row in a crash.
Interesting. Thanks for sharing.
It’s clearly for fleet buyers, who need the capability and range but not the style or comfort - to help them meet emissions rules. There’s plenty of others choices out there for lifestyle buyers.
The only thing I can think is that GM got a government order for a bunch of these. I know the National Parks are committed to only having EV in their fleet. I can imagine getting permission for buying this is easier than other, more tricked out, alternatives.
It's definitely a fleet truck. A company's CFO can justify the cost over 48 months as that's about the breakeven point for comparing to a gas truck and the cost to fuel. I agree, it's probably being pushed by high level meetings between GM and their major fleet customers.
i’ve worked on these for police fleet use and Port Authority fleet use and they’re becoming very popular. To the average person i don’t see these selling much
So not only does no one want this, it's priced so they'd never even consider it. Bravo.
I am wondering if this is a similar to how Aston Martin rebadged a smart car in order to meet the regulations of having X average percentage of emissions across their lineup. Maybe GM never intended anyone to actual buy this ugly, overpriced POS.
@@pablomax9376Supposedly they spent billions in R&D on this. Lol.
@@pablomax9376 I've always kinda suspected the same - that the automakers don't expect these models to actually be successful, but the morons in the government are basically forcing them to try.
I want one. I don't buy new cars, though; I'll wait for examples to pop up on the used market.
@@piusg Wait a few years and you'll be able to get one for 15k
Imagine financing a $75k EV @ 7% APR, just for it to be worth $40k in 2 years.
lol it's comical how quickly people get used to something. Pre 2021 it was very common for cars to lose 40-50% within the first 2-3 years. in fact most leases have residual values in that range.
@@ronald4life1 It was more like 25% after 2 years. Unless it was a Honda, Toyota, Subaru then it was around 10%-15% after 2 years.
However, you weren’t financing @ >7% it was around 2.5%-3%
EVs depreciate worse than smartphones.
dude whats 75 grand? lol i can pull that out of my bank right now, 75 grand is the new 10 grand
40k? you mean 20k lol
@@mikedelape6609 I’m about to buy a 2024 Land Cruiser. It’s not quite $75k but it’ll still be worth a lot more than this truck in 5 years.
Everything is at least 30% more expensive than it was 4 years ago. EVs are still undergoing growing pains, they’re almost disposable at this point. 5-7 years from now this EV Truck’s specs will be laughable compared to what you’ll be able to get at that price point. It’ll be like an iPhone 3G compared to an iPhone 15.
I have a few issues with your rant at 21:20. Truck buyers are more interested in capabilities than style. I sell pre-owned vehicles and when it comes to trucks I have had trouble moving the lighting because my customers all either need to tow or need to work, and those are not people I would recommend an EV to. This truck actually seems like decent rig, if only they could get the price down about 15k or more.
The 400 mile version is down to $66k. Next year there will be a ~320 mile version for $58k.
Rant is the right word. I am surprised anyone takes this wanker seriously.
It’s like a repeat of the Cadillac ELR. I was half expecting Doug to yell “SEVENTY FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS” at us the whole video
No heated seats for that price is crazy
Who the fk is asking for heated seats in a work truck 😂
@@Freerider93 construction workers who want heat?
@@Freerider93who thinks this is a work truck? 😂😂😂
@@Freerider93I love the heated seats in my work truck.
Especially because heated seats are one of the easiest ways to increase range on an EV. Instead of having to heat the whole giant cabin, you just heat the people directly.
I want whatever the big manufacturers are smoking because $75K for a bare bones base is Insanity
*snorting
this "75k work truck" is for the pavement princesses who have to do hard labor putting carts back after shopping at publix.😢
Ya base model with 450 mile range and 0-60 in 5.3 seconds. Not exactly bare bones dude. Lol
@@Techfanatic73 someone didn't listen to the video... 😬😬😬
@@Techfanatic73 My 2011 base model got 6.0 0-60 stock. At the time it was faster than a Raptor but it was as basic as it got, crank windows and 4x4 on the floor. Speed =/= high trim.
It is absurd to call this thing a work truck. I bought a brand new four-cylinder Nissan frontier and 2017 for $16,700. Here we are seven years later and as far as I know, you can’t get any new truck for less than $30,000, that is totally insane. I guess I’m going to drive my 2001 model Tacoma and 2017 frontier for the rest of my life and I’m only middle-aged. I am not willing to get ripped off in any transaction in life. Somebody is gonna come along and blow all these makers out of the water with an affordable truck.
And yet, here everyone is, criticizing GM specifically for an industry wide issue. I'm glad somethings never change.🙄
Preach. I did not think in 2024 I'd be wishing we still had (non commercial) Isuzu in the states
What you say is true, but the days of a sub $20k work truck are gone, and they aren't coming back. And it's OUR fault, the customer. That said, I would argue that this IS a work truck but for a very specific buyer. Imagine your gig includes daily towing: car hauling, generator, wood chipper, water tanks, tool trailers, parts, whatever. A gas truck towing will be lucky to get 8mpg in the city. At $3.50 gallon, call it 43 cents per mile in fuel. This truck towing will get 1 mile per kwh. In Ohio, I pay 7 cents per kwh so call it 7 cents per mile. That's a HUGE difference. Now imagine you log 100 miles a day towing in your work truck. Imagine you do that 5 days a week, 50 weeks a year. I'll do the math for you; gas cost=$10750 per year, EV cost=$1750 per year. The EV requires NO MAINTENANCE! No oil changes, no belt to snap, no exhaust to rot, no $8000 transmission to fail, no tune up, no starter...literally nothing. Because of regen, even the brakes will last 5 times as long on the EV. In 5 years of daily city towing, the gas truck will be a clapped out money pit. The EV will still be maintenance free and good as new. Even if the battery degrades 50% (it wont) it'll still have twice what you actually need. Conclusion: run the numbers and the EV is a bargain.
Ford maverick
I feel like your video must have been recorded a long time ago. Not only is the RST already being shipped to customers, but even the GMC Sierra EV is starting deliveries. That being said, the strategy of starting with the WT is that fleet buyers are basically guaranteed demand up front. The fact that several of those fleets were rental companies also adds the benefit of getting these trucks into customer hands very quickly.
Doug my dude by the time you posted this video the TOP RST trim is on dealer lots and available for sale.
This is more like a fleet truck aimed at companies, not for regular people. Average working-class people make between 35k to 50k
no company is buying $75k trucks for fleets are you stupid
@@Jlemus01 pretty much. People forget that these are going to be bought by GSA and sent to military bases all around the world. Apparently the pentagon has stated they were going to electrify their fleet vehicles as a means to reduce their carbon footprint.
@@Jlemus01 Dunno how many companies want to buy $75k barebones pockup trucks and then pay more to outfit them to their needs...
99.9% of companies wants to spend as little money as possible and bring in as much income as possible. Spending 74k times 10,20,50 is just not a smart financial decision. Buying regular Silverado WT or Colorado WT’s would be so much smarter
@@VoidOneGamer compared to a 250 diesel, this is right in the ballpark after federal incentives
Why are the bezels around both screens so large? Makes them look extremely cheap, as if this interior needed any help….
The RST and non-fleet ones have a better "screen to bezel" ratio, but I understand what you're getting at.
That giant rectangle slapped on the dash with giant bezels on top of bezels winds up shrinking the size of the screen to like 7”, it looks horrible, cheap, and outdated. It looks like something out of a ten year old Polaris Slingshot. All for the low, low price, of seventy four thousand American dollarydoos.
Cars and trucks aren’t getting more valuable, our money is getting less valuable.
ThAt’S A CoNsPiRaCy tHeOrY!
1934
No way, a person understanding inflation
@@amazingjason455 thanks Nixon for that lol and the IRS, federal reserve...
@@trees6543 Tax collection is deflationary. You can't thank the IRS for inflation lol.
Hertz Rental bought a bunch of these. They’re already selling them. Sub 10K miles for just over $60K. I love the Silverado EV!!!
With that price it could come with giant stickers saying "tough sell" on the sides
The ICE work truck is $44K.
No business that wants to maximize profit is going to consider a $79K EV truck.
Bro, you don't have a business though.
@@Freerider93 have we met?
I think some government businesses will buy them to show they are “going green”.
@@HeyMavDak maybe a business that wants to reduce its carbon emissions rather than maximize profits.
@@jessevassallohow exactly are you helping the environment instead of buying a 45k ecoboost f150?
I thought I’d get more open to the idea of EVs over time. But I’m actually finding myself liking EVs less and less each year
My god it's massive, everything just keeps getting bigger
RIP lil Cindy on the tricycle on the driveway.
@@ruvindap66 Train your kids to stay out of the way of cars. Kids can be trained.
Even the prices
@@bwofficial1776How about we teach the government to let go over their stupid laws on importing smaller trucks so if we get affordable ones here
@@bwofficial1776 In this era of the Nanny State, training a kid is near a crime
The price is insane. At $50kish this would be an instant buy for me. $75k is entirely unreasonable.
I rented one of these for a few days. Loved the range, acceleration, and camera system on such a large vehicle. I would consider buying one for like half the price.
Putting the headlight control on the screen is insane. How are cellphones banned but this is allowed?
Because that's how headlights should be. Auto, always....
@@95mushroomNo, they absolutely should not be. Unless they automatically come on when starting the vehicle and shut off when the vehicle is off. Relying on automatic lights is why so many idiots drive around with no lights in hazardous conditions.
It's best practice to just always have them on anyway. "Lights on for safety" and what not.
Depending on what state you are in, police will absolutely consider excessivley manipulating your infotainment system to be distracted driving.
@@VoidOneGamer No, so many idiots drive around with no lights at night because they "think they're smarter then the car" and switch the car off from auto.
GM's system works as Auto-On, every single time. Even if you switch the lights off, the next time the car turns on, its back to Auto-On. Its been this way with GM cars for 20 years, and it should be industry standard at this point.
@95mushroom Well, my 04 buick had it and it wasn't something that could be relied on. Even the modern GM trucks I drive, I don't prefer they decide when my headlights turn on. Because they don't unless it's dark. Running lights come on instead.
As a part of my job, I sit in the side of the road and take phone calls or do paperwork, and I don't want my lights on when I'm doing that...strobes yes but don't want to give the impression I'm moving if I'm not.
Cool! Exactly what we need, a truck to compete with trucks nobody is buying!
FYI, I much prefer your videos outside than in the dark garage.
'Garage"? I thought that was the "Doug Fuehrer Bunker, Calif. Version"!
This truck is so well equipped for the price. I love the vinyl floors. The fact that any vehicle has carpet inside baffles my mind. The plastic around the bottom of the body is fantastic for longevity with rust. 75k for a truck that will save 5k per year in fuel is fantastic.
GM: "We're going to make a base level truck for $75K"
*nobody buys it*
GM: *surprised Pikachu face*
Ive already seen quite a few around by local companies, people are definitely buying them for fleet vehicles.
Ok good for them. What about everyone else that needs a work vehicle that cant afford it.
If this is the future of car design, I might start looking for a bike. Woof.
Riding is so much more enjoyable than driving even enthusiasts cars.
Wrong.
@@Sh4dowgale Your well-reasoned argument convinced me. Not.
I work at a Chevy dealership in the shop and we have one of these that's bricked with 7 miles on it 🤣 and the suspension collapsed in on PF. All for 97k. I don't have faith in these.
Haven’t seen any on the road but have seen plenty of rivians, cybertrucks, and lightnings😂
Drinking game: take a shot every time Doug says "work truck" good luck not dying
$75,000 and you still have to pay $220 for all-weather floor mats, which doesn't include the front trunk mat.
WHAT A JOKE
17:45 they designed this very well. there is no lack of storage. the seats fold up and allow you to slide some big piece of equipment in that space. if there was a larger storage tray underneath the rear seat you couldn't put a bandsaw or such in the rear. it's a work truck.
so you could either buy what looks like a pretty mid ev truck or buy a base model C8 with cash to spare...
This comment really put my thoughts into perspective. It’s almost like the manufacturers don’t want to actually sell some of this stuff
Why on earth would they not offer a work truck in a two door long bed?
@@HCheatNcool I wish people would buy them. However, I guess it saves them engineering costs; as the body is different from the gas Silverado/Sierra.
Should've at least had the folding midgate
@@swissmiss88o wouldn't need it if the cab was an extended or regular cab.
The market would offer that truck if enough people wanted it. I stopped wanting a straight cab truck when I was 19 and there was no room for stuff and a person in the cab of my truck at the same time.
GM doesn't like to think most the time
As someone who only buys vinyl seats and floor trucks, I am glad they are offering this, but the price is crazy. I get the giant battery isn't cheap, but it really needs to be $55k for that interior (which i am all about). If the equivalent gas work truck is say $45k, you got $30k for gas and additional maintenance which is quite a bit.
Lucky for you it is in the $50-55k range when you lease it! haha..
For real the interior is horrific for 75k
Family member of mine got a brand new F-250 Duper Duty to use for his construction company. He paid disgustingly little out of pocket after write offs and incentives. He ownes it outright for less thsn I spend monthly on groceries. Thats what will likely happen with these WT Silverados.
Without that scenario, the pricing is absolutely absurd. However, the amount of Hummers, Rivians, Lightnings and now even Cybertrucks i see in my area (Metro Detroit area) is ridiculous. They're everywhere! Despite price tags, people are affording them. Theres obviously something we dont know...
The work truck is meant for commercial/fleet buyers, not average joes. The basic Chevy ICE pickup we use at work was over $60 grand, but it costs more to operate and maintain.
0:14 in: My review: It's got two more doors than a Work Truck needs.
Have you ever used a truck for work?
My first thought too, but then I considered the application where you need bodies more than tools, like a painting company or lawn service. I agree it's a tough sell but not /completely/ silly. Hopefully they will eventually offer other configurations.
@fullsenderman8291 he doesn't need to have used one for work, many fleet buyers do not need crew cabs for their fleets. Regular cabs or extended cabs often do everything they need.
Sooooo basically Hummer EV, but "cheaper" edition
it is cheaper… doesn’t mean it’s cheap. remove the stupid quotes they don’t make any sense
@@hellocar123 i mean in a literall sense it is, but to consider the fact that the msrp is 96k and this is before auto retailers get their grubby hands on them, it's anything but sensible, yet alone cheap.
Annnnd I'm keeping my quotation marks 🤭
Tbh it’s much better and lighter than that behemoth
@@czean2125 true at that
more like hummer EV but cheaper... smaller... and about half the weight
Lol the couple at 8:56 trying to figure out what Doug is doing at a park speaking to a tripod
No front trunk insulation is insane at $75K
I have a 2023 Trail Boss Colorado with the same infotainment. You can modify the shortcuts on the left. You hold, drag and drop. Allows you to add the camera shortcut (and others) on the side. Always accessible.
14:27 OEM wireless chargers are AWFUL. Just put a USB c one in if you want one or a MagSafe. One of the most pointless features in modern cars.
Tesla one is 15W and works really well.
I thought the wireless charging would be great paired with wireless CarPlay in my super duty. After using for a week I noticed that the wireless charging wouldn’t charge fast enough to keep the battery from dying while using CarPlay lol. I use a charge cable now.
Most people buy 3rd party phone holders of some sort. OEM’s should build some sort of pull out or flip out wireless charging phone holder that also has feet. And give you an adapter for tablets also.
Those tablets stuck on the dash are UGLY. Who actually thinks that looks good at all? At least connect the two!
And what’s with the bezels being ⅔ of the surface area of the displays. This is dumb, displays are cheap. If you’re gonna put in the real estate, fill it up with display.
You just can't beat when Doug says "it's reviewin' time!" and wiggles his finger
You have to be gay.
I was in contracting for years, and our fleet had much more expensive trucks that couldn't tow as much. You can write these off, and if you add in the almost zero maintenance and low low fuel costs comparatively... This thing is a home run for a local contractor, even at $75,000.
My brother got one of these while his truck was at the dealership. It was awesome but only as a rental. Very quick and comfortable ride. Sound system was alright and it seems to be well built. But charging infrastructure is terrible and expensive plus the range isn’t great if you drive at Texas speeds. He said it would be an awesome truck for 35k. Not 90 after markups.
I think the work truck would sell better around the 40k price point. Some companies might not mind the higher price for tax reasons. The RST version should be around 70k. These manufacturers are pricing a lot of us out of the truck market.Im a loyal GM owner, but I don't see myself buying any truck over 2010 year.😢
GM aren't trying to sell these EV trucks, they're just trying to comply with government mandates. It's a waste of money and time and resources on their part and ours.
If that was true why would they take the time to do three different trucks? Hummer, Sierra and Silverado.
@@bahamatodd it is true. If you can make one its not hard to make the other. they have been doing that for decades. The alternative is get rid of V8s like Ram and say goodbye to Corvette while you are at it.
All part of the 15 minute city, easy to contain people plan.
Fortune 500 companies are buying them to "lower their footprint"
Yet I've been seeing people plop down 100k for a cybertruck. Try again.
Correct me if im wrong but werent these supposed to be 40k when it was first announced?
Same with every new car
Thanks to Bidenflation 😑👎
There’s a reason that they’re discounting these by $16k and are giving insane lease deals on these.
It's called rebates. Show one discount like that.
@@getrippedincno they aren’t selling any trust me
I had one this weekend as a rental from National. It was fun. I tried fast charging it and it wouldn't get anywhere near 100 miles in 10 minutes.
Two of them showed up at my local Chevy dealership about 4 weeks ago. Both of them also white paint like featured here. Both of them obscenely expensive. Both of them still sit on the lot each day, but the sales staff moves them around every couple days to maintain the façade of continually changing inventory...
I worked at Enterprise and we have a few of these Silverado EV’s. $78,000 for a basic line, Silverado electric truck is crazy.
I was really impressed with the range and was interested and then got genuinely shocked when he said the price. Yikes
@@bk_nreynolds3278 that is one thing I actually do like about the Silverado EV because the range is actually pretty good especially for electric pick up truck probably one of the best of any electric pick up.
@@bk_nreynolds3278 that’s battery prices for ya
That price is insane. I really don't see companies buying these as fleet vehicles. So much for the promise of EVs being cheaper than ICE vehicles. It was a fairy tale all along.
its because someone set the price high and people are paying it. People are buying the Ford Lightning EVs, Tesla cybertrucks, and Rivian R1Ts, and those are going for 100k or more. thats now the base price, and anyone who goes lower is throwing out free profit. this is a 35000 truck with a 13000 battery and a massive upcharge, which is exactly what we should have expected without any government intervention preventing price gouging.
People started idealizing EVs as a "luxury" because Tesla was the only real option for a while. Manufacturers ran with that market and counterintuitively made the "economical" EV archetype into a rolling entertainment center, rather than something sensible and simple like I recall EVs being conceptualized as.
I'm surprised there was no mention of the lack of Android Auto/Apple CarPlay. That's going to be a huge obstacle for a lot of potential buyers.
Nah, I never use that.
Didn't it say Android Auto and Apple Carplay right on the screen there in this review or was I seeing things?
There is an “OFF” button hidden on the top left of the center display. Took me forever to find. You need to shut it off if you don’t exit the vehicle right away after putting the vehicle in park. The truck will remain “ON” in ACC mode until you hit that hidden button (quirk).
I use the F-150 Lightning as a work truck, and the absolute worst thing about it, besides the range, is the automatic front trunk. It takes forever to open and close. I'd rather do it manually. Also, because I have a ladder rack, I always worry that the hood is going to hit the top of the rack or when I'm carrying something on the rack. Besides that, it's the best truck I've ever owned.
I don't believe manufacturers at all with their range numbers. It's ridiculous. One quick search will show you how bad these ranges get when it gets cold, and I mean really cold out. We need some laws passed so that just like city/highway mpg ranges, we get "optimal" and COLD ranges.
Or hot.
I tend to agree with you that they are overstated, but I have seen a couple of tests that where done at 70 mph and It actually pretty much got what it advertised.
Ah yes, talking about a work truck, and when he gets to the 240v outlet, his response is to plug in a household dryer...
City boys........smh
I was thinking welder myself.. lol
@compunerd welder, large air compressor,,a dryer doesn't come to mind
Cars/Trucks keep getting more expensive and worker's wages are stagnant. Automakers are going to keep milking these high prices for as long as they can. Some brands have inflated their prices to almost double what the actual inflation rate is.
Yeah, this is why I'll likely never buy a "new" vehicle. Not a good investment.
Sooo at what point do they start making parking spots and streets bigger to accommodate such large new vehicles???
I have one. I love it. Surprised how he doesn't mention how much better it drives than the lightning.
Should’ve brought back the avalanche moniker
Yeah, that's an Avalanche
That would be too orginal for Chevrolet 😅
EValanche.
I call bs on that doug score. You have the lighting at 7 for accel but this at 4????
He has a specific scale of 0-60 times for that category. Believe it or not the Lightning goes 0-60 in 4 seconds flat and this actually takes over 5 seconds, but yes it does seem like a score of 4 seems too low.
love how the camera is pointed directly at the bumper step while hes saying there isnt one
@@jonahfisher6734 ur high
I disagree wit many of Doug's points. i don't think the majority would want pretty looks in exchange for 4 wheel drive and range. As an EV owner, I'd take range over pretty interior any day. The range is super nice. The price is what hold me back. I would also take this over the Rivian (too small) or the Lightening (just as expensive and not enough range) anytime.
I agree. I bought this one for range. You can tow a 7000 lb trailer over 200 mi.
what do you mean no driver assist? it comes standard with lane keep assist, auto breaking, side blind zone, pedestrian breaking, and collision alert, you keep calling it stripped down but if it had carpet, heated and a power driver seat it would be an LT, it already has a power steering wheel
I've had to do a proposal for fleet purchase and this is really understating the features on this truck, the pricing right now also gets 7500 off, very behind on the update
not defending how expensive it is, but youve also got some of the stats wrong. the 74k version doesnt drive 450, but it tows 11k instead. the 450 version tows 10k and is 79k.
Just crazy the amount of things a 74k truck DOESN'T HAVE! I get it's the work /fleet version but it should be a 40k work truck. Probably why they're making the base model 1st to see how well it'll sell at that crazy price before they bring out the RST for over 100k. Its just wild were talking about a 74k work truck hahaha
This should be an absolute max of $50k. What is this world coming to? Lol
the new charger starts at 70k world gone mad
'Work truck'? It's a large people mover with a small bucket in the back.
I looked around a Silverado ev rst today and it looked great. Blows all other ev trucks away
Doug is the type of guy who’ll watch the Goosebumps series with you in a Cybertruck on Halloween
How ugly you want the interior to be ?
GM manager: Yes !!
Ugly???? FOCUS MAN!!! A work truck for 70+ thousand with a short bed???? Focus!!!
Why would you buy this base work truck for $75k when you could get a low mileage and optioned out Silverado High Country or Sierra Denali for roughly the same price?
Well, if you're a fleet buyer, costs are paramount. The fact that yearly operational costs are next to nothing for many years on this guy is what some fleet buyers are already discovering.
@@spazzman90 Municipalities and utility companies are lapping these up around me
BIG FAN DOUG! IM 59 AND I LOVE CARS. I EVEN PUT MY CAR ON YOUR WEBSITE AND GOT WHAT I WANTED! MY NAME WAS ADAM, REMEMBER?????? (BIG FAN!!)
Stop SHOUTING!
Doug might be off about work truck buyers not wanting the fancy or comfy features, but he's right about it being priced too high. For $75k, I would expect heated seats at least. My $20k Spark even had heated seats. Nice to see higher range finally.
You can also identify the Silverado ev by the fact its still setting on a dealers lot a year from now
Who the hell looks at this thing and thinks "yep, that's worth 75 large."?
@@TheoneandonlyJobisfor real it’s hideous
Looks like a cross between a Mitsubishi Triton, a Hyundai, and a turd
Grow up
So your listing 3 turds 😂😂
I’m a valet driver and I just valeted one these last night. It’s very cheap feeling inside
It looks horrible
Doug, I think you touched on it yourself: It seems clear to me that the target customer for this truck is a fleet buyer. It makes sense for a business owner to buy one or several of these. They don't care much about luxury features for their employees to enjoy while driving the trucks, but they DO care about the immense fuel and maintenance cost savings relative to gas/diesel trucks. As for that huge range, it's for towing! This truck has so much energy capacity that it might actually be able to travel for 2-3 hours between charge stops while towing a large trailer at highway speeds.
I’ve bought three with two more on order. These things are great!
I've been getting the vibe for awhile now that we are seeing products produced that not many want and the response is to admonish the customer base instead of focusing on producing a good product
What do you define as a good product?
@@dannydaw59 give me a new Tacoma for 30k. A Tundra for 45k. Naturally aspirated. Keep all the BS electronics. I don't want a message appearing on the dash telling me to go to the dealer for service because there's a problem with the "active grill shutters" which shouldn't even be a thing. If you want a good example, look up the guy with the 2018 F-150 who had to spend $6500 in repairs because he got moisture in his taillights which prevented his truck from starting. The cost of the new taillights alone was over $3k from Ford because they are loaded with unnecessary electronics and sensors. It's utter nonsense.