I'm daughter is considering going from vegetarian to vegan, which prompted me to do a little fatherly research on UA-cam (because reading is so 20th century). My initial search results were rather unsettling. Most "Vegans" seemed more interested in flaunting their toned abs and/or pitching their own branded, zero-science diets than with giving practical nutritional advice. Then I happened upon The Unnatural Vegan! As a relieved father, I thank you for being reasonable, well-read, articulate and sane! My daughter's review: "She's very smart and naturally pretty and she doesn't wave her butt in front of the camera every ten seconds." Coming from a slightly jaded fifteen year old, that is high praise!
+Will Px I always recommend her. Other important point for a teenager: Unatural Vegan is never afraid of saying : I was wrong, and she is allways compassionate. If not: I care only for animals (what are we then?). It's a very good channel for any scientific oriented mind.
+Will Px unfortunately, I would be concerned as a parent, too. If I had a child who wanted to go vegan, then how am I supposed to protect them from people like freelee, or durianrider, who use cult-like tactics to promote such horrible ideas? It's bad enough that we have the media perpetuating this nonsense, but we don't need people using mind control, which is essentially what freelee and durianrider do. They perpetuate the message of "the ends justify the means" and "two wrongs make a right." That, along with the fact that the two of them have put out videos discouraging young people from, say, going to school (since going to school would involve learning facts, thereby derailing any "teachings" from the two of them).
+9mler My daughter thinks Freelee is a "beyond awful" and has too much sense and self-respect to succumb to "mind control." You're using my comment as a launch pad to vent your own particular grievances. This is UA-cam where all comments are fair game. However, if you made these remarks in my presences, I would tell you to f**k off.
I think it's cool for vegans to date vegans, but at the same time I don't see what's wrong with vegans dating non-vegans. My partner is not a vegan, but because of me he has drastically reduced his intake of animal products and keeps no meat in the house. We eat out mostly at vegan places, so he rarely orders meat at restaurants either. If I had never started dating him, he would have still been consuming large amounts of meat. So even though he's not a vegan, his actions have reduced animal suffering.
+Jill Elyse - Same story here. I had primarily focused on looking for a vegan/vegetarian for a while before starting to date my fiance. He is not vegan or vegetarian and I never expect him to become one. In our time together he has learned how easy it is to reduce your meat and dairy intake and cook vegan meals. He rarely eats meat at home or when we go out to eat. If he eats meat it's usually during the work day when I'm not around or at a family gathering. He even recommends vegan restaurants to his friends and talks about how good the food is. I always think about how much he's changed his lifestyle since being with me and I'm impressed by the changes he's made.
Jill Elyse Some things people can't compromise on. It depends on the person. For me, definitely partner should be open minded, vegan/vegetarian and a dog lover. Because it's sort of a big part of my life. But everyone's different. EDIT: Obviously someone who is compassionate and understands that they can transition to veganism is an amazing choice. But not all people change. Some people just won't. It's not about not wanting a work in progress.
@@Jay-vz7og I think it's wrong to expect a person change for you. But I agree - sometimes you just feel that you need to have a shared lifestyle in order to connect on a deep level.
I have some advice: Maybe look for vegetarians too! I was already a vegan when I met my boyfriend who was a vegetarian. We both have a love for cooking so we just cooked vegan meals all the time so he was almost vegan, when he was at home too. Then one day he educated himself about the topic and finally went vegan! ♥
Yeah, when I met my bf he was just vegetarian and now recently has turned vegan by his own conclusions on the suffering of the animals via the dairy industry after finding and watching some other documentaries on his own.
"Normal" vegan men just seem so hard to find. A lot of times when men are vegan, they're often (not-always) into weird pseudo-science bs too. They can't just be vegan and rational
Beggars can't be choosers. Men tend to like their meat, at least they are acculturated more than women to do so, so when you find a guy who doesn't eat meat, chances are he's prone to divergent thinking.
Seriously agree with not limiting your geographic range. I never thought I'd meet the "perfect" person after a short and disastrous marriage to a local girl I had been dating all the way through high school, but by mere random chance I met someone while visiting a relative at a nursing home in Oregon (I'm from Texas) a couple of years later. We immediately hit it off and married after only three months. Still together after 25 years.
+John Montgomery That's such a sweet story. Thanks for sharing it, and congratulations to you both! My vegan boyfriend and I lived continents apart when we first met and now we're living together happily.
When i found my boyfriend he ate a standard diet but respected my diet, now he eats 90% vegan, even though i'm not strict on him, my only rule is "if i make the food ot's vegan"
It's rough. I fell in love with my fiancé well before I went vegan. He's obsessed with meat.... It hurts my heart.... Luckily he can't cook so he's stuck eating vegan food for forever 😆
Lucien draay I only went vegan six weeks ago as well. It would be a lot to expect him to go vegan as well as we've been together for almost three years and this is a new thing in my life!
John Smith I've been vegan for six weeks. SIX WEEKS. Am I supposed to dump someone I've been with for three years whom I love over a decision I came to on my own? Really ridiculous.
Re "He wanted to talk about factual and philosophical misconceptions in some of my videos": That's one of the greatest (dare I say erotic) ice-breaker relationship gambits I ever heard! Well done, Partner-of-UV:-)
I met my vegan soulmate on youtube :D :D We have been living together for like a year now and are from different countries but thats no problem. We are beyond perfect for each other. When we met in person we were already a couple tho :) Worked out great
glad you're in a happy relationship :) also, I really admire how private you are. I hate seeing any level of fame steer romantic relationships. That shit bums me out. looking forward to your next video!
My boyfriend of currently 4 years and I met when I was only 6-7 months vegetarian and he totally respected it. Now I’m a transitioning vegan and he nothing but so supportive. I always tell him about why I eat what, and I have made him open to trying different things when we go out to eat. That honestly makes me happy enough and I’m glad he can respect my eating choice (:
I'm literally a gay, vegan, libertarian, secular buddhist and an atheist... I'm probably one of only 4 in the world haha if I was picky or trivial I would be fucked !
It's ok, I bet you'd be surprised what else is out there. I have to laugh at my own situation in which I would describe myself as a new age hippie vegan who is also a libertarian who likes to shoot guns and is into homesteading, vampires, heavy metal music, and Game of Thrones. I'm sure I'm leaving something out, but will have to come back to it...
Another advice Don’t date someone that “is going vegan just because they met you “ that’s because their bases to be vegan is the relationship indeed and not the ethical manners that actual vegans have
Herr Enid exactly! The only thing is maybe you opened their eyes and now they’re as passionate about it and now y’all are on the same level. However, personally I’m not in the mood to convince, i wanna join up and move forward.
@@AbigaleKirsten Most of my comment it's because I dated someone that just said that was going vegan, it turned out to be a lie, he just said that to have "something in common " with me That was what I was making reference to Lmao But if the person turns to be a vegan and really caring about it, it's great then
A nice mix of personal disclosure with a sufficient reservation of privacy while giving hope to hopeless lonely vegan masses. ;-) Tastefully done. Nice job.
My husband and daughter are not vegan or vegetarians but I am. We don't try to convert one another. I think they can make their own choices and decision. I would not like it if my husband constantly pestered me to be otherwise therefore I don't do it either. We have a happy relationship despite this difference.
both you and vegan gains dated a fan then? while both saying you wouldn't usually respond... Maybe the advice should be "date someone you wouldn't usually"
I met my husband on a social site 13 years ago and I thought he was ugly and strange but I was like hey why not. He drove two hours to meet me and I still thought he was weird. Yet for some reason I fell head over heals for this weirdo ^_^ long story short it'll be 12 years married next month. (no I don't still find my husband ugly LOL but hey I'm honest)
I noticed that you and The Vegan Atheists had a collab video in 2015... Interesting... I wonder what he looks like? He seems so private, never showing himself on his videos ;) lol Happy for you whoever the mystery guy is!
"We share our love in fantasy sci fi films, but he doesn't share my love in music and I don't share his interests in water sports. And it really doesn't matter." I really love this. People expect all the time that your partner needs to be the same person as you. And you end up expecting it yourself. But, once you really fall for someone you realise that the connection is beyond interests. You just click well and that's that.
I unfortunately had the opposite happen. I was vegan when I met my partner. She then went vegan overnight. I thought she supported the ideology, but clearly not. After a few years she slowly started eating animals again, bringing them into the house and other things. We've since broken up. Being with a non-vegan partner just caused too many problems. Never again.
my fiancé (husband to be July 2 this year) and I actually met as omnivores, went to the same high school, and started talking after graduation. Went vegetarian at the same time around our one year anniversary as we got engaged, and then another year later I went vegan and he also did about a month after me. We are now planning our vegan wedding. :] I do believe fate had some part in this, and my advice would be to not lose hope, if things are meant to be, they will work out, but you also have to realize what your dealbreakers are and know when the relationship isn't progressing any further.
Great story about how you met your partner! I have been married for 13 years to an amazing man who is also my best friend. Thankfully, when I went vegan, he went vegan with me! We have both lost a ton of weight and feel so much better. He was somewhat against it when I started talking about it with him, but as my "start date" got closer, he got on board! I can't imagine how hard it would be to go vegan if he hadn't done it with me! It's
I can make a "how to meet someone that's dying of alcoholism on the Internet" video. In fairness, we've been together 11 years and have 2 kids now, and he's sober and on his way to veganism. All my tips would be hindsight, DONT BE LIKE ME KIDS!
I live in a conservative town in New England where everyone hunts and has dairy farms. For me, the hard part is falling for people who are hunters/fishers and don't show any signs of being willing to change. When I do meet a vegan, they tend to be into pseudoscience because in this area you're either a conservative white male or a rebellious hippie. It's rare to be neither like me. It's so hard for me to have genuine connections to and feelings for people who have different values than me. I loved my ex so much but he was a huge meat-eater who made fun of veganism. It's so hard.
I wouldn't even if I was getting paid to do so. Intelligence is indeed an attractive trait, which is why I wouldn't even be able to tolerate this woman's presence (I don't find her physically attractive whatsoever either and imagine her being awful in bed). Though I'm sure she would hate me too, so it's a happy ending for both of us.
I went vegan before I met my husband and to be honest, I didn't look for another vegan. I focused more on finding someone I could really connect with on other things as well as having an open mind. I was vegan for a year and a half before I met my hubby. He has been very supportive and has never been rude or really questioned my diet choice. The only thing he worried about is supplements, haha! He loves me. 💕 Since being with me, he has cut out his meat A LOT. At home we eat vegan, occasionally he will buy stuff that's vegetarian, but we rarely buy any meat for him because he won't eat it at home. He mostly only eats it when he goes out to eat with co workers or friends. We always go to vegan restaurants together. He has been so supportive and we have the same values as far as reusing, reducing and recycling. Also, limiting water usage, electricity and so on. He is also the one who saves the spiders in the house...eek! I cant do that, lol! 🤣 Anyways, we are happily married and now I consider him 80% vegetarian. ❤️💕😃
I often see you as kinda very factual and straight forward Its very lovely to see you talking about someone you care about. Its very humanizing I forget that about people on the Internet sometimes.
Great down to earth advice! I think one of the most important bits of advice you give is not to get carried away by sentimentality. You should choose a partner largely out of the most rational part of your brain- when buying a new car, you make carefully calculated decisions before purchasing. The same should go for relationships. (And that doesn't mean your relationship will be devoid of passion/romance!!)
Gotta say, I don't like the idea of "veganIzing" someone you're in a relationship. You either compromise or leave the relationship. Why try to change someone? That's not fair to either party.
I think the reasons he's given are sound, and he's had only committed and engaged viewers responding. besides, those especially interested have a moment section on his patreon page.
I’ve been lurking on your channel for a while now, and I really wanted to thank you. I’d been turned off from veganism by the community for a while now, but watching you channel has inspired me to go vegan, seeing that there are rational people in the community. So, once again, thank you.
Great video! This made me smile. So glad you found another vegan "soulmate" and you two seem happy and hitting it of :) There are really great tips here, not just for meeting a vegan partner, but how to navigate relationships in general.
Love makes us beautiful, inside and outside. I wish you guys a lot of beautiful moments together! The way you speak about your other half is so sweet and lovely !
I am still baffle that you would describe antinatalism as mysantropic, I think you get that idea because a good amount of antinatalists are mysantropic or not very articulate on the subject. (I like freelee and durianrider but they are not good example of antinatalism sorry)
All of this advice is gold. You make so much sense and have so many good points. I've never heard someone talk about relationships in such a way that actually works and isnt just a huge mess of nonsense. Some people like to complicate things way too much.
I eat a plant-based diet while my partner does not and we make it work. I don't judge the fact that he enjoys eating animal products and he also allows me to make the meal plan. From there, he decides what he would like to add to his meal. Because I make the meal plan, it ends up meaning that he consumes far less animal products than before. Any eggs he eats, come from my parent's backyard chickens and we purchase our meat from a local butcher shop. When we go out to eat, I order a meal without any animal products and he orders another meal and we share. Since I can never finish a meal at a restaurant, it works well for us. While it may not be anyone's perfect relationship, I love and respect him and will never force him to change to my eating lifestyle. I appreciate all the support he gives me especially with both of our families and not criticizing me anytime I grill someone about the food they want to serve me.
Don't you ever think something like, "if what I believe is just was turned into law, you would be in prison for crimes you commit every day"? Or, "The choices you make at mealtimes are more wrong than slapping a child in the face so hard they smash to the ground would be and yet you expect me to sit across the dinner table from you smiling like everything is okay"?
I don't think it happens like that most of the time. You are probably one if the lucky few. Most people are stuck in their ways. From experience with exes and family members most people are very resistant to such big Changes. I'd rather wait to find someone who is vegan than having a partner who has different morals and ethics than I do. It's frustrating and not worth the headache even if in some ways it would be easier to just date someone I was attracted to but didn't meet the criteria
Absolutely! Most of my past relationships are example of what you say. And if it's not near impossible, it's certainly hard. I've always had an effect in reducing their meat consumption though!
+Blythe Saturn Relationships aren't sex 24/7... I'm interested in a romantic relationship with men or women (hence bi-romantic) the same as any couple, minus the sex. Simple as that. Just because I don't feel sexual attraction to men or women doesn't mean I want to be alone for the rest of my life.
This may be true for some people, but I personally don't think it's a bad thing to be in a relationship with someone before you meet them in real life. I think it's important you see them over webcam/microphone so you are sure they are who they say they are but don't be too afraid of it not working out that you don't give it a chance. My boyfriend and I live on different continents, so meeting up quickly was not going to be an option, and especially if we weren't sure we were going to like each other. We're still together and just as in love (if not more) long after meeting. Obviously this is just my case that worked out well, but all I'm trying to say is don't think you can't know or be close to someone over Skype. Sure, you won't be able to hug and kiss, but you can definitely have a damn good emotional connection. If you can't meet that person quickly, do not let it stop you from feeling how you're feeling and letting them know it. Maybe it won't work out in person but maybe it will, and either way you will have enjoyed spending time talking to them. You can never ever know 100% for certain if a relationship is going to "work out" or how long it is going to last. Don't let distance stop you from having a chance at love.
Exactly! My boyfriend and I met online on a game called World of Warcraft 8 years ago! We were long-distanced for six years and were able to make it work....and we have been together in person for two years now. Overall, long-distanced relationships can work very well, if it is meant to be, it will be! Don't knock it until you try it, right? :)
Thanks & appreciate your sincere thoughts on the subject which is not one of the easiest to talk obviously. In the process, I learned other philosophical viewpoints as well. Today, I am glad that I am a vegan single yet and have gained a lot on the subject by being composed and having patience.
+Kimberly H I've been in a relationship with my partner for many years. We lived around the corner from each other during high school. We have a child. She is not vegan. She is catholic. I am an atheist. She believes haunted houses are real. I think that doesn't even require a response. She likes shopping, I like being outdoors. She drinks alcohol. I don't, and so on. It is important to navigate the practical consequences of differences in opinion, but with the right attitude it can be done. Should our son attend a catholic school, or not? What are the likely outcomes, and how can we deal with them? You must really like your boyfriend as things stand, so if you want to be with him you can work it out. People really resent persistent attempts at being "converted". I would despise attempts at being converted to Catholicism. Sure, I think reason is on my side in this case, but it is the act that people dislike.
I have been dating my bf for a year before deciding to transition to veganism. I'm still transitioning and he isn't interested in becoming 100% vegan at the moment, but he isn't disrespectful of my choices and suggests me to experiment with vegan recipes and stuff :) So for me that's good enough and I'm happy I found a person that even if he's not passionate as I am about something, is respectful and walks with me down the path of life instead of totally leaving me alone 😀
I struggle being a Christian and a vegan and finding love. I've been vegan for 2 years now, Christian for 4, and somehow most of the Christian men I meet who agree with me theologically, and are really great understanding guys, they just cannot fathom never eating meat dairy or egg again... It's quite discouraging. Thank you for this video! I do love a voice of reason, and I feel inspired.. I'm happy for your relationship :)
I adore how reach vocabulary you have. I'm not native but it always impresses me when a native speak using range of words and don't put 'like' as a coma
This is all great advice. I think it's important to put yourself in a position to meet other vegans, whether that's in person or online. I was single, and not looking, and got a job at a vegan bakery. I fell for a co-worker and luckily he felt the same way. Early on we talked about the more important values we each had, so as not to waste each other's time, and we're pretty compatible. Been together 4 years, married for 2. If I hadn't wanted to get more involved in veganism, we never would have met. So, yeah, get out there and do your thing!
My bf and I got together three years ago and we both ate meat. A year later, I went vegetarian because we'd gotten a dog and I couldn't justify eating animals when I saw how capable of thoughts and emotions they are. I explained this to my partner and he went pescatarian. A year after that, I went vegan after seeing footage of hens and cows being tortured and slaughtered for dairy and eggs. It took him a couple months to come around, and I'm not gonna lie, it was a rough few months. Every time he ordered something with cheese on it my distaste was apparent. The real arguments started when we began discussing kids. My wedding would be vegan, and my children would be raised vegan. We nearly broke up then and there but fortunately the fight finally inspired him to do his own research and like me he decided that veganism was the obvious conclusion. If he hadn't made the switch, I don't know that it would have lasted. But now we have our mostly vegan dog and a vegan company and we're pretty much living the dream so I always encourage that people educate their partners before deciding to split.
Met my male soul mate online over a mutual interest FB group. As a matter of fact he has supported me throughout the past 3 years with my debilitating illness and got down on bended knee. We had talked online for 3 months nearly daily before we met in person. We're also on the same page on our health, and the raising of my child and her health. He isn't even the biological father but he was totally honoured when she started calling him 'Dadda' recently.
If I wanted to date, I wouldn't care if s/he were vegan or not. I would care if s/he were rational, open minded, scientifically literate (enough to know how to read and understand scientific papers and shit), and driven to improve him/herself, because that would mean s/he'd be a million times more likely to go vegan.I would never date a meat-head.
+Nameless spot on. I would definitely want my partner to make the ethical connection. Nothing irks me so much as an ethically apathetic "on-a-diet" vegan.
+Notorious Jag I think it's pretty rare for someone who doesn't have a non-science background to be able to read and understand scientific papers, they're full of jargon and require understanding of experimental techniques. Besides, how common is it for people to actually buy subscriptions to scientific journals?
+lifewithmel well. there's degrees of scientific literacy. obviously a scientist is a lot more scientifically literate than I would ever be. I just want someone scientifically literate ENOUGH to not fall for bs especially in the field of nutrition. I guess scientifically literate isnt the right word im looking for. skeptical is a better term. also, I should mention that each field of science has its own language so a marine biologist is likely not scientifically literate when it comes to nutrition science. there are also tons of scientific papers that are available for free to the public online.
My ex wasn't vegan. He respected my lifestyle, and if anything that's really what matters most. He read the books, and watched the documentaries but still chose to eat meat, and asked that I respect his decision as he respected mine. It actually worked out in that aspect, it was hard for me, but in contrast my parents and siblings also have heard me out on my lifestyle, and they all still eat meat (though my younger brother DOES try and limit animal products), and I accept that and love them unconditionally, even though I don't agree with their choices. We ended up breaking up over other reasons but a relationship CAN work with a non-vegan!
Really don't give up on texting or getting to know someone who isn't vegan yet. My boyfriend, who is vegan and was already at the moment he texted me, really got me into this. Now I'm happy he opened my eyes on veganism.
I met my husband over the Internet. I moved out to his city and lived separately for a year while we got to know each other. Then we lived together for 4 years before we got married. We're still together after 16 years. He is not vegan as I went vegan after we were together, but he eats much less meat now and is healthy and happy.
What is your opinion on someone who eats food that in the label says "may contain eggs/milk"? Peta suggests not to avoid those foods for a few reasons, but I'm interested in your opinion.
You didn't ask me, but: Step 1: Stop listening to PETA, it's an extremist group of nutjobs. Step 2: Do your research (preferably evidence-based) and draw your own conclusions from it. Step 3: Stay open to new perspectives if they bring up valid points. Depending on the product, the amount of egg and milk in it might be so miniscule that it is negligible - and/or effectively does not change the demand for egg or milk production.
My boyfriend and I have been together for some time. He's the one I want to grow old with. I turned vegan recently but he is definitely a meat and potatoes guy. We both eat our own things and it hasn't really effected us. He knows my stance on it but I don't try to push it on him... To me it's not a deal breaker or even a big deal. I advocate veganism but I feel like there is so much more to a person. If it's a huge deal breaker to some.. By all means. Sure we've heavily debated about it before but I feel like by doing my thing & living that example perhaps he'll try it out at some point. He's supportive! Very. I just know you may be missing out if you hold your standards too high. What's most important to me is their intelligence and how they carry themselves...
I met my hubby before the internet on a BBS over 20 years ago lol. We were both not vegan. I went vegetarian in 99' he did not so that was rough. We went vegan over 4 years ago. I can't imagine looking for a vegan partner these days so I call myself lucky, lets hope in the future I won't have to look for one lol
I'm daughter is considering going from vegetarian to vegan, which prompted me to do a little fatherly research on UA-cam (because reading is so 20th century). My initial search results were rather unsettling. Most "Vegans" seemed more interested in flaunting their toned abs and/or pitching their own branded, zero-science diets than with giving practical nutritional advice. Then I happened upon The Unnatural Vegan! As a relieved father, I thank you for being reasonable, well-read, articulate and sane! My daughter's review: "She's very smart and naturally pretty and she doesn't wave her butt in front of the camera every ten seconds." Coming from a slightly jaded fifteen year old, that is high praise!
This is so cute
+Will Px
I always recommend her. Other important point for a teenager: Unatural Vegan is never afraid of saying : I was wrong, and she is allways compassionate. If not: I care only for animals (what are we then?). It's a very good channel for any scientific oriented mind.
+Will Px unfortunately, I would be concerned as a parent, too. If I had a child who wanted to go vegan, then how am I supposed to protect them from people like freelee, or durianrider, who use cult-like tactics to promote such horrible ideas? It's bad enough that we have the media perpetuating this nonsense, but we don't need people using mind control, which is essentially what freelee and durianrider do. They perpetuate the message of "the ends justify the means" and "two wrongs make a right." That, along with the fact that the two of them have put out videos discouraging young people from, say, going to school (since going to school would involve learning facts, thereby derailing any "teachings" from the two of them).
+9mler My daughter thinks Freelee is a "beyond awful" and has too much sense and self-respect to succumb to "mind control." You're using my comment as a launch pad to vent your own particular grievances. This is UA-cam where all comments are fair game. However, if you made these remarks in my presences, I would tell you to f**k off.
My dad loves UV too!
Somehow T-800 in the background doesn't make the thumbnail any less lame. Also, my partner is the headless horseman.
hahaha ❤❤❤👏👏👏
+Unnatural Vegan I love the pic. It makes me laugh cause im 5 ft 2 and my partner is 6 ft 9 and all our pictures look silly like that.
what was the channel called that you mentioned? Bello Ciel? I didn't catch it
+Susanne Rehm à-bas-le-ciel it's reat you really should check it out !
I thought he was a giant.
your boyfriend looks about 8 feet tall
she's short though
5 4' is average
Isn't she hugging a mannequin?
@@MisaloSloe that is short to me
@@Ghost-fe1vp and 5'4 isnt?
Plot twist: Vegan Gains is the boyfriend
+Martina Mladenova lmaoooooo
+Martina Mladenova yeeeessss!
😂😂
a-bas-le-ciel
LOL 😂
I think it's cool for vegans to date vegans, but at the same time I don't see what's wrong with vegans dating non-vegans. My partner is not a vegan, but because of me he has drastically reduced his intake of animal products and keeps no meat in the house. We eat out mostly at vegan places, so he rarely orders meat at restaurants either. If I had never started dating him, he would have still been consuming large amounts of meat. So even though he's not a vegan, his actions have reduced animal suffering.
+Jill Elyse - Same story here. I had primarily focused on looking for a vegan/vegetarian for a while before starting to date my fiance. He is not vegan or vegetarian and I never expect him to become one. In our time together he has learned how easy it is to reduce your meat and dairy intake and cook vegan meals. He rarely eats meat at home or when we go out to eat. If he eats meat it's usually during the work day when I'm not around or at a family gathering. He even recommends vegan restaurants to his friends and talks about how good the food is. I always think about how much he's changed his lifestyle since being with me and I'm impressed by the changes he's made.
Notorious Jag but people are not products, we are never finished and we are all a work in progress
Jill Elyse Some things people can't compromise on. It depends on the person. For me, definitely partner should be open minded, vegan/vegetarian and a dog lover. Because it's sort of a big part of my life. But everyone's different.
EDIT: Obviously someone who is compassionate and understands that they can transition to veganism is an amazing choice. But not all people change. Some people just won't. It's not about not wanting a work in progress.
As open minded as you?
@@Jay-vz7og I think it's wrong to expect a person change for you. But I agree - sometimes you just feel that you need to have a shared lifestyle in order to connect on a deep level.
I have some advice: Maybe look for vegetarians too!
I was already a vegan when I met my boyfriend who was a vegetarian. We both have a love for cooking so we just cooked vegan meals all the time so he was almost vegan, when he was at home too. Then one day he educated himself about the topic and finally went vegan! ♥
Yeah, when I met my bf he was just vegetarian and now recently has turned vegan by his own conclusions on the suffering of the animals via the dairy industry after finding and watching some other documentaries on his own.
Half breeds?
"Normal" vegan men just seem so hard to find. A lot of times when men are vegan, they're often (not-always) into weird pseudo-science bs too. They can't just be vegan and rational
This is an old comment but this is one of the truest things I have ever read
True
Typical Gemini during the full moon.
no one is perfect lol.
Beggars can't be choosers.
Men tend to like their meat, at least they are acculturated more than women to do so, so when you find a guy who doesn't eat meat, chances are he's prone to divergent thinking.
Seriously agree with not limiting your geographic range. I never thought I'd meet the "perfect" person after a short and disastrous marriage to a local girl I had been dating all the way through high school, but by mere random chance I met someone while visiting a relative at a nursing home in Oregon (I'm from Texas) a couple of years later. We immediately hit it off and married after only three months. Still together after 25 years.
+John Montgomery That's such a sweet story. Thanks for sharing it, and congratulations to you both! My vegan boyfriend and I lived continents apart when we first met and now we're living together happily.
try being a vegan lesbian. my dating pool is approximately 0.00014% of the population
+Emma Shaw Try being a vegan, lesbian, atheist haha.
happyvegemite das me
+Emma Shaw I ship it
me too man
I am also a vegan gay chick heyyyyy
you're so rational and thoughtful and understanding and i love that
Thumbnail looks like it could have been vegan gains XD
i thought it was him too haha
+Qwerty Bastard Memphis I think.
He is dating repzion now.. Check out his video when he went overseas with his lover.. Crazy video good entertainment and uncomfortable..
Given that he calls her a b###h in comments ...
... yeah, maybe he IS in love.
Andrew Cox does he really? that's hilarious
When i found my boyfriend he ate a standard diet but respected my diet, now he eats 90% vegan, even though i'm not strict on him, my only rule is "if i make the food ot's vegan"
It's rough. I fell in love with my fiancé well before I went vegan. He's obsessed with meat.... It hurts my heart....
Luckily he can't cook so he's stuck eating vegan food for forever 😆
+Ashley "Luckily he can't cook so he's stuck eating vegan food for forever 😆" LMAO yes this pretty much describes my bf :p
He’ll get fed up of that
"I certainly do not share my boyfriend's interest in watersports." *snorts coffee*
Loving the channel, the videos, the message.
I love your videos! My partner is not vegan, but I love him anyway. :)
I know your mate will going vegan with becase love is powerful
John Smith love goes both ways and her mate will go vegan it takes time for some . Rember ther love will make it happen soonner or later
Lucien draay I only went vegan six weeks ago as well. It would be a lot to expect him to go vegan as well as we've been together for almost three years and this is a new thing in my life!
***** and this is why people hate vegans...
John Smith I've been vegan for six weeks. SIX WEEKS. Am I supposed to dump someone I've been with for three years whom I love over a decision I came to on my own? Really ridiculous.
Re "He wanted to talk about factual and philosophical misconceptions in some of my videos": That's one of the greatest (dare I say erotic) ice-breaker relationship gambits I ever heard! Well done, Partner-of-UV:-)
Way ahead your time.
I met my vegan soulmate on youtube :D :D We have been living together for like a year now and are from different countries but thats no problem. We are beyond perfect for each other. When we met in person we were already a couple tho :) Worked out great
+VegAnn Howwww wut
***** how what? :)
A video about that? :)
+VegAnn "When we met in prison..." o.O
+VegAnn Congratulations and sending you my best.
this video made it even more apparent that I'm gonna be single forever ;__;
+TehDialogBox ;__;
same
Least you've got the vegan ratio on your side
Honestly most vegan ladies would probably rather date a carnist over me.
get on some vegan groups online, like facebook groups for example
Aww, this warms my cold black heart. Congrats to you two
glad you're in a happy relationship :)
also, I really admire how private you are. I hate seeing any level of fame steer romantic relationships. That shit bums me out.
looking forward to your next video!
My boyfriend of currently 4 years and I met when I was only 6-7 months vegetarian and he totally respected it. Now I’m a transitioning vegan and he nothing but so supportive. I always tell him about why I eat what, and I have made him open to trying different things when we go out to eat. That honestly makes me happy enough and I’m glad he can respect my eating choice (:
I'm literally a gay, vegan, libertarian, secular buddhist and an atheist... I'm probably one of only 4 in the world haha if I was picky or trivial I would be fucked !
+ for right libertarianism
It's ok, I bet you'd be surprised what else is out there. I have to laugh at my own situation in which I would describe myself as a new age hippie vegan who is also a libertarian who likes to shoot guns and is into homesteading, vampires, heavy metal music, and Game of Thrones. I'm sure I'm leaving something out, but will have to come back to it...
Im vegan, libertarian, buddhist
Another advice
Don’t date someone that “is going vegan just because they met you “ that’s because their bases to be vegan is the relationship indeed and not the ethical manners that actual vegans have
Herr Enid exactly! The only thing is maybe you opened their eyes and now they’re as passionate about it and now y’all are on the same level. However, personally I’m not in the mood to convince, i wanna join up and move forward.
@@AbigaleKirsten Most of my comment it's because I dated someone that just said that was going vegan, it turned out to be a lie, he just said that to have "something in common " with me
That was what I was making reference to
Lmao
But if the person turns to be a vegan and really caring about it, it's great then
a partner who changes themselves for you is a massive red flag
no thank you
Every vegan I know in my local area is literally a stoner... limiting my area is definitely not an option lol
Miamari damn! Well there are many that don’t touch drugs etc rest assured we are out here!
lol all i want in life is a vegan stoner bf
When you say your boyfriend is into "watersports" ?????
+Chris Cross LMAO yeah the internet has corrupted me to the point where I default to the weird definitions first. RIP
It was just a "piss-take" guys :)
she needs to google water sports.
Golden showers !!!!!!
Only now i am thinking about this lol. She probably didnt mean it in this way but it sounds akward really :3
Damn guys I need a popular vegan youtube channel stat. Ill call myself Matt_the_banana_dude, because its a phallic subliminal message.
Matthew Johnson if your the banana dude does that mean your gay?
A nice mix of personal disclosure with a sufficient reservation of privacy while giving hope to hopeless lonely vegan masses. ;-) Tastefully done. Nice job.
My husband and daughter are not vegan or vegetarians but I am. We don't try to convert one another. I think they can make their own choices and decision. I would not like it if my husband constantly pestered me to be otherwise therefore I don't do it either. We have a happy relationship despite this difference.
I have been a vegetarian for 50 years since the age of 3. :)
both you and vegan gains dated a fan then? while both saying you wouldn't usually respond... Maybe the advice should be "date someone you wouldn't usually"
I am dating a guy I thought was totally not my type. I think that advice is correct lol
I met my husband on a social site 13 years ago and I thought he was ugly and strange but I was like hey why not. He drove two hours to meet me and I still thought he was weird. Yet for some reason I fell head over heals for this weirdo ^_^ long story short it'll be 12 years married next month. (no I don't still find my husband ugly LOL but hey I'm honest)
I noticed that you and The Vegan Atheists had a collab video in 2015... Interesting... I wonder what he looks like? He seems so private, never showing himself on his videos ;) lol
Happy for you whoever the mystery guy is!
Ooooh! 😮
He also hasn't posted in months I wonder more about that
+Laura Harro I was thinking the same thing!
its totally the vegan atheist
a-bas-le-ciel
I always thought u liked the ladies lol
Looool. Me too. 😝
I'm bi and my gaydar was pingin'😂
+Yukon I blame the Lisa Loeb glasses.
+Yukon same here!
+Unnatural Vegan nah, just wishful thinking ;)
"Some of us do become the lies we tell ourselves". I love this line, that belongs in a movie.
"We share our love in fantasy sci fi films, but he doesn't share my love in music and I don't share his interests in water sports. And it really doesn't matter."
I really love this. People expect all the time that your partner needs to be the same person as you. And you end up expecting it yourself. But, once you really fall for someone you realise that the connection is beyond interests. You just click well and that's that.
I unfortunately had the opposite happen. I was vegan when I met my partner. She then went vegan overnight. I thought she supported the ideology, but clearly not. After a few years she slowly started eating animals again, bringing them into the house and other things. We've since broken up. Being with a non-vegan partner just caused too many problems. Never again.
my fiancé (husband to be July 2 this year) and I actually met as omnivores, went to the same high school, and started talking after graduation. Went vegetarian at the same time around our one year anniversary as we got engaged, and then another year later I went vegan and he also did about a month after me. We are now planning our vegan wedding. :] I do believe fate had some part in this, and my advice would be to not lose hope, if things are meant to be, they will work out, but you also have to realize what your dealbreakers are and know when the relationship isn't progressing any further.
+Ocala Marie All the good of the world in the new stage you both are starting.
So nice to hear you talk about personal stuff. I like that you're more private. It makes it that much cooler when you share a little 🙃💛
Great story about how you met your partner! I have been married for 13 years to an amazing man who is also my best friend. Thankfully, when I went vegan, he went vegan with me! We have both lost a ton of weight and feel so much better. He was somewhat against it when I started talking about it with him, but as my "start date" got closer, he got on board! I can't imagine how hard it would be to go vegan if he hadn't done it with me! It's
Ah your too cute when you talk about your partner. 😂❤️ Great video.
I can make a "how to meet someone that's dying of alcoholism on the Internet" video. In fairness, we've been together 11 years and have 2 kids now, and he's sober and on his way to veganism. All my tips would be hindsight, DONT BE LIKE ME KIDS!
I live in a conservative town in New England where everyone hunts and has dairy farms. For me, the hard part is falling for people who are hunters/fishers and don't show any signs of being willing to change. When I do meet a vegan, they tend to be into pseudoscience because in this area you're either a conservative white male or a rebellious hippie. It's rare to be neither like me. It's so hard for me to have genuine connections to and feelings for people who have different values than me. I loved my ex so much but he was a huge meat-eater who made fun of veganism. It's so hard.
+xosecox12 SAME
***** My name is Sarah too. I'm glad someone out there with my name is living my struggles.
you are so mature, wise, and down-to-earth. i will forever love your videos.
Finally a smile on your thumbnail. You do the same awkward face in every pic. It's nice to see you actually smile lol
who wouldn't like this girl? fuck, intelligence is so underrated.
+Frizzy Elf and really smart
I wouldn't even if I was getting paid to do so. Intelligence is indeed an attractive trait, which is why I wouldn't even be able to tolerate this woman's presence (I don't find her physically attractive whatsoever either and imagine her being awful in bed). Though I'm sure she would hate me too, so it's a happy ending for both of us.
Me. I like her and her work but I don't have the feels soooo
Lmao
Think don't tell club is even hotter and more underrated ...
I went vegan before I met my husband and to be honest, I didn't look for another vegan. I focused more on finding someone I could really connect with on other things as well as having an open mind. I was vegan for a year and a half before I met my hubby. He has been very supportive and has never been rude or really questioned my diet choice. The only thing he worried about is supplements, haha! He loves me. 💕 Since being with me, he has cut out his meat A LOT. At home we eat vegan, occasionally he will buy stuff that's vegetarian, but we rarely buy any meat for him because he won't eat it at home. He mostly only eats it when he goes out to eat with co workers or friends. We always go to vegan restaurants together. He has been so supportive and we have the same values as far as reusing, reducing and recycling. Also, limiting water usage, electricity and so on. He is also the one who saves the spiders in the house...eek! I cant do that, lol! 🤣 Anyways, we are happily married and now I consider him 80% vegetarian. ❤️💕😃
After the "divorce," Richard and his GF did make up and he flew out to Belgium to meet her. Not sure what their status is now ...
I often see you as kinda very factual and straight forward
Its very lovely to see you talking about someone you care about. Its very humanizing
I forget that about people on the Internet sometimes.
Lord, as if being trans isn't hard enough, now I gotta find a trans-attracted, vegan, straight edge man! Hahaha :)
sounds difficult, but not impossible!
best of luck to you :)
It's a big world. Someone out there is just for you :)
So true! Going to have to start giving em some conversion therapy! :)
muahaha
Dee HunnyBuns you’re beautiful ❤️
Great down to earth advice! I think one of the most important bits of advice you give is not to get carried away by sentimentality. You should choose a partner largely out of the most rational part of your brain- when buying a new car, you make carefully calculated decisions before purchasing. The same should go for relationships. (And that doesn't mean your relationship will be devoid of passion/romance!!)
Gotta say, I don't like the idea of "veganIzing" someone you're in a relationship. You either compromise or leave the relationship. Why try to change someone? That's not fair to either party.
Cute vegan love makes me so happy, congrats!!
We want a petition to let à-bas-le-ciel activate comment on his channel.
Yes please
I think the reasons he's given are sound, and he's had only committed and engaged viewers responding. besides, those especially interested have a moment section on his patreon page.
I am from Texas and my fiance is from Sweden, we've been together for 4 years, and we are going vegan together!
I am transgender and vegan lol
Chloe Lavender you’re cool as fuck!
i came here today to read the funny comments and i thoroughly enjoyed. thank you.
Watersports.. ooohkay, my brain went naughty for a second
I’ve been lurking on your channel for a while now, and I really wanted to thank you. I’d been turned off from veganism by the community for a while now, but watching you channel has inspired me to go vegan, seeing that there are rational people in the community. So, once again, thank you.
Great video! This made me smile. So glad you found another vegan "soulmate" and you two seem happy and hitting it of :) There are really great tips here, not just for meeting a vegan partner, but how to navigate relationships in general.
Love makes us beautiful, inside and outside. I wish you guys a lot of beautiful moments together! The way you speak about your other half is so sweet and lovely !
I am still baffle that you would describe antinatalism as mysantropic, I think you get that idea because a good amount of antinatalists are mysantropic or not very articulate on the subject. (I like freelee and durianrider but they are not good example of antinatalism sorry)
All of this advice is gold. You make so much sense and have so many good points. I've never heard someone talk about relationships in such a way that actually works and isnt just a huge mess of nonsense. Some people like to complicate things way too much.
I eat a plant-based diet while my partner does not and we make it work. I don't judge the fact that he enjoys eating animal products and he also allows me to make the meal plan. From there, he decides what he would like to add to his meal. Because I make the meal plan, it ends up meaning that he consumes far less animal products than before. Any eggs he eats, come from my parent's backyard chickens and we purchase our meat from a local butcher shop. When we go out to eat, I order a meal without any animal products and he orders another meal and we share. Since I can never finish a meal at a restaurant, it works well for us. While it may not be anyone's perfect relationship, I love and respect him and will never force him to change to my eating lifestyle. I appreciate all the support he gives me especially with both of our families and not criticizing me anytime I grill someone about the food they want to serve me.
Don't you ever think something like, "if what I believe is just was turned into law, you would be in prison for crimes you commit every day"? Or, "The choices you make at mealtimes are more wrong than slapping a child in the face so hard they smash to the ground would be and yet you expect me to sit across the dinner table from you smiling like everything is okay"?
I'm totally one of those who veganized a carneist ;) Was like trying to pull teeth though... But heck! Now he's more vegan than me sometimes...
I don't think it happens like that most of the time. You are probably one if the lucky few. Most people are stuck in their ways. From experience with exes and family members most people are very resistant to such big Changes. I'd rather wait to find someone who is vegan than having a partner who has different morals and ethics than I do. It's frustrating and not worth the headache even if in some ways it would be easier to just date someone I was attracted to but didn't meet the criteria
Absolutely! Most of my past relationships are example of what you say. And if it's not near impossible, it's certainly hard. I've always had an effect in reducing their meat consumption though!
Unnatural Vegan, I really appreciate your sense of humour.
you're so cute when you try not to talk about HIM, but clearly HE makes you happy, keep it up :)
Try being vegan and gay :( Makes your dating pool even smaller. 5eva alone!
Lol please. Try vegan asexual. At least I'm bi-romantic though.
+Wooplot dude, right? we need a gay vegan dating app!
***** not all relationships are sexual, and not all asexuals are sex repulsed
+Blythe Saturn Relationships aren't sex 24/7... I'm interested in a romantic relationship with men or women (hence bi-romantic) the same as any couple, minus the sex. Simple as that. Just because I don't feel sexual attraction to men or women doesn't mean I want to be alone for the rest of my life.
+Cynthia I'm too pure for that shit
I love watching your videos so much! You're by far the most genuine and funniest person on UA-cam!
I'm intelligent and vegan. Also this isn't a wall of text. Can we be bff's now?
This may be true for some people, but I personally don't think it's a bad thing to be in a relationship with someone before you meet them in real life. I think it's important you see them over webcam/microphone so you are sure they are who they say they are but don't be too afraid of it not working out that you don't give it a chance. My boyfriend and I live on different continents, so meeting up quickly was not going to be an option, and especially if we weren't sure we were going to like each other. We're still together and just as in love (if not more) long after meeting.
Obviously this is just my case that worked out well, but all I'm trying to say is don't think you can't know or be close to someone over Skype. Sure, you won't be able to hug and kiss, but you can definitely have a damn good emotional connection.
If you can't meet that person quickly, do not let it stop you from feeling how you're feeling and letting them know it. Maybe it won't work out in person but maybe it will, and either way you will have enjoyed spending time talking to them.
You can never ever know 100% for certain if a relationship is going to "work out" or how long it is going to last. Don't let distance stop you from having a chance at love.
Exactly! My boyfriend and I met online on a game called World of Warcraft 8 years ago! We were long-distanced for six years and were able to make it work....and we have been together in person for two years now. Overall, long-distanced relationships can work very well, if it is meant to be, it will be! Don't knock it until you try it, right? :)
Kudos to your partner for coming up with that brilliant pick-up line :)
This is just like all your videos in that you're giving valid and supportive advice to the community at large.
Thanks & appreciate your sincere thoughts on the subject which is not one of the easiest to talk obviously. In the process, I learned other philosophical viewpoints as well. Today, I am glad that I am a vegan single yet and have gained a lot on the subject by being composed and having patience.
This is such a lovely advice video for any kind of relationship
My boyfriend is not vegan and he never will be. 😔
+Kimberly H Never say never. :)
+Kimberly H I've been in a relationship with my partner for many years. We lived around the corner from each other during high school. We have a child. She is not vegan. She is catholic. I am an atheist. She believes haunted houses are real. I think that doesn't even require a response. She likes shopping, I like being outdoors. She drinks alcohol. I don't, and so on.
It is important to navigate the practical consequences of differences in opinion, but with the right attitude it can be done. Should our son attend a catholic school, or not? What are the likely outcomes, and how can we deal with them? You must really like your boyfriend as things stand, so if you want to be with him you can work it out.
People really resent persistent attempts at being "converted". I would despise attempts at being converted to Catholicism. Sure, I think reason is on my side in this case, but it is the act that people dislike.
+Unnatural Vegan :))
dump him! go out with me. look at me! I'm a tree. don't get more vegan than that
+Kimberly H i feel you :( mine is vegetarian, but he can't let go of milk :((
I'm just going to die alone with 17 cats. it's better than dating a carnist.
You and I both!
This is probably how I'll die as well, whether I find some love for some time or not, haha.
Probably same with me (except with dogs; I'm allergic to cats). I'm okay with that; I'll be a cool spinster aunt.
... but cats *are* carnists!
> better than dating a carnist
> pick 17 carnivores pet.
Goodjob.
I have been dating my bf for a year before deciding to transition to veganism. I'm still transitioning and he isn't interested in becoming 100% vegan at the moment, but he isn't disrespectful of my choices and suggests me to experiment with vegan recipes and stuff :)
So for me that's good enough and I'm happy I found a person that even if he's not passionate as I am about something, is respectful and walks with me down the path of life instead of totally leaving me alone 😀
I struggle being a Christian and a vegan and finding love. I've been vegan for 2 years now, Christian for 4, and somehow most of the Christian men I meet who agree with me theologically, and are really great understanding guys, they just cannot fathom never eating meat dairy or egg again... It's quite discouraging. Thank you for this video! I do love a voice of reason, and I feel inspired.. I'm happy for your relationship :)
I adore how reach vocabulary you have. I'm not native but it always impresses me when a native speak using range of words and don't put 'like' as a coma
Aw, this makes me happy :) I'm glad you found somebody.
Your videos are always great when you don't talk about people who don't want kids as crazy ass depressed mofos who want to die
This is all great advice. I think it's important to put yourself in a position to meet other vegans, whether that's in person or online. I was single, and not looking, and got a job at a vegan bakery. I fell for a co-worker and luckily he felt the same way. Early on we talked about the more important values we each had, so as not to waste each other's time, and we're pretty compatible. Been together 4 years, married for 2. If I hadn't wanted to get more involved in veganism, we never would have met. So, yeah, get out there and do your thing!
My mind is filthy. When she said she doesn't share her boyfriends love of watersports, I thought something very nasty.
My bf and I got together three years ago and we both ate meat. A year later, I went vegetarian because we'd gotten a dog and I couldn't justify eating animals when I saw how capable of thoughts and emotions they are. I explained this to my partner and he went pescatarian. A year after that, I went vegan after seeing footage of hens and cows being tortured and slaughtered for dairy and eggs. It took him a couple months to come around, and I'm not gonna lie, it was a rough few months. Every time he ordered something with cheese on it my distaste was apparent. The real arguments started when we began discussing kids.
My wedding would be vegan, and my children would be raised vegan. We nearly broke up then and there but fortunately the fight finally inspired him to do his own research and like me he decided that veganism was the obvious conclusion.
If he hadn't made the switch, I don't know that it would have lasted.
But now we have our mostly vegan dog and a vegan company and we're pretty much living the dream so I always encourage that people educate their partners before deciding to split.
+Brittni Kristine That's awesome. Thank you so much sharing. :)
+aa aa Okay, I won't.
Vegan dog I see what you did there 🙄
Unnatural's relationship with her boyfriend is strictly platonic.
+Kevin Mann What do you mean? Like they don't have sex? lol
+Kylie Fraser Unnatural Vegan is severely undersexed, just look at how stiff she is.
+Kevin Mann how do you know? You just make assumptions on what she is willing to show on camera.
i used to strongly dislike you, but you have grown on me
Met my male soul mate online over a mutual interest FB group. As a matter of fact he has supported me throughout the past 3 years with my debilitating illness and got down on bended knee. We had talked online for 3 months nearly daily before we met in person. We're also on the same page on our health, and the raising of my child and her health. He isn't even the biological father but he was totally honoured when she started calling him 'Dadda' recently.
If I wanted to date, I wouldn't care if s/he were vegan or not. I would care if s/he were rational, open minded, scientifically literate (enough to know how to read and understand scientific papers and shit), and driven to improve him/herself, because that would mean s/he'd be a million times more likely to go vegan.I would never date a meat-head.
+Nameless spot on. I would definitely want my partner to make the ethical connection. Nothing irks me so much as an ethically apathetic "on-a-diet" vegan.
Scientifically literate is the most pretentious term I've heard.
+Notorious Jag I think it's pretty rare for someone who doesn't have a non-science background to be able to read and understand scientific papers, they're full of jargon and require understanding of experimental techniques. Besides, how common is it for people to actually buy subscriptions to scientific journals?
+lifewithmel well. there's degrees of scientific literacy. obviously a scientist is a lot more scientifically literate than I would ever be. I just want someone scientifically literate ENOUGH to not fall for bs especially in the field of nutrition. I guess scientifically literate isnt the right word im looking for. skeptical is a better term.
also, I should mention that each field of science has its own language so a marine biologist is likely not scientifically literate when it comes to nutrition science.
there are also tons of scientific papers that are available for free to the public online.
My ex wasn't vegan. He respected my lifestyle, and if anything that's really what matters most. He read the books, and watched the documentaries but still chose to eat meat, and asked that I respect his decision as he respected mine. It actually worked out in that aspect, it was hard for me, but in contrast my parents and siblings also have heard me out on my lifestyle, and they all still eat meat (though my younger brother DOES try and limit animal products), and I accept that and love them unconditionally, even though I don't agree with their choices. We ended up breaking up over other reasons but a relationship CAN work with a non-vegan!
Really don't give up on texting or getting to know someone who isn't vegan yet. My boyfriend, who is vegan and was already at the moment he texted me, really got me into this. Now I'm happy he opened my eyes on veganism.
Awesome, Swayze! Thank you for sharing.
I met my husband over the Internet. I moved out to his city and lived separately for a year while we got to know each other. Then we lived together for 4 years before we got married. We're still together after 16 years. He is not vegan as I went vegan after we were together, but he eats much less meat now and is healthy and happy.
Is that a Nightmare before Christmas t-shirt?! Amazing! :)
Are those Morrigan and Lilith Aensland pictures in the background? :3
What is your opinion on someone who eats food that in the label says "may contain eggs/milk"? Peta suggests not to avoid those foods for a few reasons, but I'm interested in your opinion.
You didn't ask me, but:
Step 1: Stop listening to PETA, it's an extremist group of nutjobs.
Step 2: Do your research (preferably evidence-based) and draw your own conclusions from it.
Step 3: Stay open to new perspectives if they bring up valid points.
Depending on the product, the amount of egg and milk in it might be so miniscule that it is negligible - and/or effectively does not change the demand for egg or milk production.
I'm officially subscribing to your channel- not because of the "love" topic..but I liked your approach, down to earth simple and great advice.
I think you should start another channel - a dating one. Your advice is good for everybody, not only vegans:)
My boyfriend and I have been together for some time. He's the one I want to grow old with. I turned vegan recently but he is definitely a meat and potatoes guy. We both eat our own things and it hasn't really effected us. He knows my stance on it but I don't try to push it on him... To me it's not a deal breaker or even a big deal. I advocate veganism but I feel like there is so much more to a person. If it's a huge deal breaker to some.. By all means. Sure we've heavily debated about it before but I feel like by doing my thing & living that example perhaps he'll try it out at some point. He's supportive! Very.
I just know you may be missing out if you hold your standards too high.
What's most important to me is their intelligence and how they carry themselves...
Off-topic but Morrigan and Lilith portraits FTW !
I met my hubby before the internet on a BBS over 20 years ago lol. We were both not vegan. I went vegetarian in 99' he did not so that was rough. We went vegan over 4 years ago. I can't imagine looking for a vegan partner these days so I call myself lucky, lets hope in the future I won't have to look for one lol
Lmao she’s gonna casually mention her partner is into water sports lmao
the debate of disbelief in religion is way more important than carnism.