It *used to be* really good. Nowadays it's basically a bunch of open mic night "comedians" trying to mimic what they remember was funny in the 90s, and failing horribly.
SNL started as a radical outlet during the rise of the American Counterculture, when simply not confirming to established standards was enough to make a giant impression. In decades since, it's become an institution, and lost its primary motivation of subversive abandon, in favor of self preservation. It has accrued enough respect that occasionally recognized talents will humor themselves and conform to the format, but it's more of a medium that can occasionally channel brilliance, then the source of brilliance it once was in past decades. It's also important when looking back at Revolutionary works, that the best ones get copied endlessly, and some of them improve, leaving the original seeming lackluster in comparison if you don't have nostalgic reference for it. But in its own tíme, it was novel and unique and none of the acts it inspired were around, rather it blew up the decrepit copies of stale acts prior. A very similar trajectory is evident for The Simpson's, which looks stale and clumsy to fresh eyes, but only because it has reshaped everything in its wake.
SNL/Kate McKinnon didn't "Call Her out" on her Gay Marriage record... She whitewashed her homophobia and hypocrisy by telling CIS America that LGBT Celebrities have forgiven her and are now campaigning for her.
Y'know, it honestly just now occurred to me that our two candidates in this Presidential election have both legitimately been celebrity presences for over two decades now. There's something fascinating there, though I'm not sure I can properly quantify it right now.
America is obsessed with celebrities and famous people, that's why Bernie didn't do better, he was an unknown for most people before (and sometimes during) the primaries
Obama turned American politics into a shitty celebrity-fest with his garbage cameos and his "better than thou" persona. Half the US ultimately worshiped him for no real reason other than "muh black candidate" and those people had no real knowledge of his policies or American politics in general. Enter 2016, where the race was persona vs persona and the man the most charisma was constantly in the spotlight, as well as a pied piper plan by the main opposition that backfired along with rumors that the Democratic primaries were rigged that were confirmed in one way or another. The most corrupt candidate in American history gambling on multiple fronts and losing because of sheer arrogance, then blaming her loss on the Russians of all things like we were in a cold war all over again.
I had a dream that you ran a store at the local mall where you sold books, cereal, and used Atari games. We were casual acquaintances and you would always slip me an extra box of Reeses Puffs or recommend a new book whenever I came in. You were dressed as Scarlet O'Hara for some reason. Thanks for the dream-cereal.
Get the location right and something like that could actually work. Sort of a Starbucks but way more chill kind of vibe to it. Get a bowl of cereal with whatever extras you want on it, grab a book off the shelf, and then on the way out pick up a retro game for later.
@@poopoopeepee6780 Al Gore and John Kerry were able to take a dive without all this sort of hooplah. "Generic corporate democrat" has always been destined to fail against a W or Reagan clone. It's what they exist to do - defeat leftists, lose the general, allow the elite to enrich themselves further. It's likely her gender helped her do as well as she did - if she were a man and Bill was a woman, how would society view a Hillard Rodham? A recipient of nepotism who is only relevant due to riding off his wife's status? A wife that banged bimbos on the side, who he stayed with only for material gain?
Everything Goldmark said. I think what makes McKinnon's Saturday-morning cartoon villain Hillary so amusing is that she's portraying the Hillary that the right-wing believes so strongly is real.
I think the reason Hilary's portrayals have been so inconsistent is because, to be honest, she's kind of a boring person in real life so it's kind've hard not to change her personality completely when you're spoofing and/or satirizing her
I dunno, ‘superpredators’ really speaks to her character. Seriously tho, the skits where she talks about standing for whatever is most popular opinion at any given point are pretty accurate and that behavior became her hallmark political talking point. It’s kind of hard to know who she is when the real Hilary doesn’t stand for much beyond ‘I’m a woman’ and ‘what are your views?’
@@gateauxq4604 Yeah she is definitely a very traditional style politician who doesn't seem genuine. There are worse things though, like someone who is a genuinely, absurdly awful individual.
She seems quite a banal politician for me, like our president in France, deregulating the economy but giving some "equal right cookies" without doing something really useful to reach a real equity... And never questions the military side of global trade, of course (and trump is the same for that, the difference is that he chose the "please to conservatives" strategy but it doesn't matter for the economic side, giving rights or not changes almost nothing for big companies after all ) But here in France we see some dark shit now behing these very "common and "at the middle"politicians", with the lots of police abuses, like giving order to charge a mass of people...next to the river of a city...one guy died in June, he drowned... and the "police of police" was like "no error happens" before the body was found... All this just because a dj played after the legal time during the national "music party day"... ordering cops to charge lot of people counting a lot drunk and/or stone very late isn't a good idea, ans next to a river even more... but it passed A man close to our president putting police outfits and weapons and beating badly a protester during an authorised manifestation...not very surprising... A lot of politicians are shady, and when they're into power the image doesn't last long...(if they were posing as "liberals" (fake ones), for the ones who chose to drag conservatives votes it's even less surprising, even if trump's government is doing even worqe that I bet with some friends during the us elections...)
johnmburt1960 yea Obama was a total “no drama president.” Started another war, turned Libya into a country with open air slave trade, signed a drone strike his third day in office, tried to destroy social security, and oh yea ruined the greatest opportunity for a comprehensive medical system. These are all just the greatest! Totally no drama! Don’t forget they’re on our team, that means you can’t criticize them!
it's sort of a conflicting feeling to see it laid out here that hillary's depiction as a power hungry schemer is clearly rooted in sexism, even though she genuinely does come across as a power hungry schemer. i guess its less that i dont think she deserves that sort of characterization, and more that it concerns me that so many equally sleazy male politicians arent criticized as harshly for the same moral failings. its always worse when a woman does it i guess
As an Irish guy, I don't get what you Americans find funny in SNL. It's all boring, forced, and predictable. It feels like a kids sitcom but with swearing.
I have a working hypothesis right now that SNL is something people grow into and then out of. Like, it appeals to a certain narrow-band age / experience range. Maybe you started on the out-end of the target?
That's because it "IS" a Kid-friendly show, it's free OTA (Over the Air), and thus is subject to what's known as Standards and Practices. Shows on OTA networks are basically told that "a kid could be watching this" Cable shows aren't subject to this, but they have their own broadcast rules (Comedy Central is notoriously lax, hence South Park, and The Daily Show.)
Yeah, I mostly grew out of SNL after it had a very obvious anti-Bernie slant. They alternated between painting him as a delusional old man and an evil, conniving commie. I know the show is meant to poke fun at politicians, but they always ended their portrayals with a more positive view of them, even Trump. Not so with Bernie.
Well, when the other option was MAD TV, we tended to assume there was no alternative to SNL. But now we have shows like Key and Peele and Portlandia to compare it to.
undetestable1 They are not immune, and way to easy to bait TBH, and they usually cry a river over so called "online violence!" Ie. saying mean words on the internet,
I always sort of wondered why people were so bugged out about Hillary Clinton until I learned that they literally forced her to bake cookies in the 90's and everything kind of clicked together.
From the beginning, no one liked her cause she worked instead of being just bills wife. And then she made that baking cookie remark and Bills team made her bake cookies. It was all downhill from there. She’s never really done anything serious.
Wayne Rembert everyone in politics is a horrible person. There is nothing to hate her more than quite literally any other politician esp the ones that are currently arrested, dead, or facing lawsuits for sexual abuse and assault
It really is, usually when a youtube video is talking about current politicians, the comments section becomes the American Civil War 2: Electric Boogaloo 4K Ultra HD Edition.
Impressions boil down from accuracy into amplifying the most erratic and humorous traits of the subject. It happens almost all the time with any character in fiction. Biggest example I always see is Peter Griffin. He starts the series as a loving, misguided man with a bit of an IQ degrade to full blown idiot by the end of it. That trait was found to be the most humorous, so they decided to magnify and bring it front.
@@RyanStorey1231 Flanders definitely went that route. He started off as a mildly religious, slightly too cheery neighbor. He had beer on tap in his basement, smoked a pipe and burnt his tie ("this noose I have been wearing...") when he announced that he's opening up his own business. We all know how he ended up.
I used to feel bad for her, after her recent stabs at Bernie, especially on the howard stern show, I feel a bit less bad for her. Too bad, she kind of his turning into one of her caricatures, or maybe she is turning out to be rather than into.
asher gaines for a sec there you literally said “its not her fault its her campaigns” and well read my comment bub. Her and her campaign, whose staff are a reflection of her character and decision making skills. Yeah shit happened at inopportune times, but same could be said of trumps campaign (grab her by the pussy?) and he was able to keep it going. I mainly take issue with ppl (mainly HRC herself) saying bernie is somehow responsible for her loss. Meanwhile bernie did multiple rallies for her, as rigorously a schedule as he has on his own campaign.
If anyone is interested on the search for the missing original Animaniacs episode, I found this great wiki/blog where an administrator finds the original aired episode and another member messages animator Tom Ruegger. forums.lostmediawiki.com/thread/523/hillary-clinton-animaniacs-original-exist
I think Hillary is incredibly lucky in who her opposition candidate this year is; then again so is Trump. If either of them were running against somebody else they would most likely lose.
Ehh, of the republican candidates Trumps probably the one she had worst odds against. Cruz would probably have been the 'best' candidate for Hillary, after all, he is the Zodiac Killer.
Fear? perhaps 'concern' at least, but mostly it's a rather novel concept worth mentioning. If we're talking comedy which most of this is, comedy is going to focus on the downsides of any aspect. *sigh* Honestly, out of all the women in the world to be the "strong independent power woman" Clinton is the best humanity could put forth? There have been worse men, if it matters, but certainly *far* better women than her.
Lindsay stumbled on something weird here: no, the Animaniacs episode as aired didn't have an original, alternate cut with Hillary in the chair, but YES, the original song (which you can find on the soundtracks) had the lyric "Clinton, first name Hillary." Tom Ruegger himself confirmed it to a fan: forums.lostmediawiki.com/thread/523/hillary-clinton-animaniacs-original-exist So apparently, Lindsay Ellis owned an Animaniacs soundtrack on CD as a kid.
As a European, I have never seen these before. I have always wondered why Americans' perception pf her was so weird, and now I know why. They can't tell what is real and what is not because of the media portrayal of her 😩
I have never seen these either, except for Kate Mckinnon’s. I’m American. I promise you, a lot of the 330 million people in the U.S. have not seen these clips from random shows. I promise you a few of us use critical thinking and understand what propaganda and biased media is, just like you in Europe.
I think Hillary Clinton is going to be remembered by history. I mean, not for any good or bad reason in particular. Just...how much of an impression she has and continues to make on people's feelings about women in power. Probably going to see a paragraph in a textbook one day about "Hillary Clinton's influence on women in politics at the turn of the millenium".
That or part of the lesson that we should never let overly entitled people who both thought they *deserved* to be president run in the main election ever again.
@@gateauxq4604 Yeah I feel that if ANYONE else had sat on the Democratic ticket, they could've won. But Hillary was the worst candidate the Democrats had
@@patrickcorby1423 come one. One was far worse than the other, no competition. She was an awful candidate but on balance, the winner was worse by almost every metric.
Tekno Pathetic Yeah. Weird is good. If you dislike her now, you should have seen her in Big Gay Sketch Show where she played Fitzwilliam, a little English boy who wanted to have a vagina and had an alcoholic stuffed unicorn named Trixie. I think she's hilarious.
Alicia She's one of the only funny female cast members on SNL currently, Aidy Bryant is ok, Leslie Jones is so fucking annoying, Cecily Strong is funny(I haven't watched SNL and in forever so I don't remember all the women in the cast)
It's amazing how much the sexism of some of those older sketches feels cartoonish in the modern day. The only times I see men telling women to go bake cookies now are either ironic or people being very intentionally misogynistic. I wonder what today's jokes will look like in 50 years, when people will wonder how anyone could ever think like that.
I think Kate did the best impression, not because it was an impression squared, but because it's exactly how many Americans viewed Hillary. She ran because "it was her turn," she acted like it was, and that's why it's not President-Elect Clinton. A lot of factors went into the voting issues, but McKinnon tapped that "well, duh" attitude that pols have the rest of America is pretty much done with. The best thing that can happen is for SNL and the like to do impressions of the impressive amount of shitty Representatives, Senators, and Governors. I doubt they will, because we're about to have a Tweeter in Chief that'll distract any meaningful satire from happening. I'll double down; the absolute best thing satirical media can do is completely ignore Trump and aim their criticism at federal and state level government positions.
+Matt Post Yup, if a Southern Methodist candidate ends up having to deal with some hateful antisemitism, imagine the amount of antisemitism that an actual Jewish candidate like Bernie Sanders would have had to deal with.
Sad. I feel in Sanders' case any perception of antisemitism, at least if it was tacitly condoned by Trump would energize more moderates to him. Then again that's hopelessly naive probably.
It's real crazy to see like, at the time presidents appearing in kids cartoons back in the day. Like that doesn't really happen anymore, at all. Could ya'll imagine sitting at home watching your stevens universe and all of a sudden Donald Trump appears?
Hillary was accused of speaking with a Southern accent when she was campaigning for president in the South, so South Park spoofed it. Also, I wish you covered Madtv's impression of Hillary during the 90's.
10:30 This is satirizing Clinton's weird tendency to take on a Southern accent when speaking in Southern States. Specifically, based on her outfit, it seems to be ripping on a now infamous 2007 rally in Selma, AL where her fake southern accent was especially pronounced.
God, those people enrage me. Whenever I watch a Hillary Clinton sketch on SNL (McKinnon's), the comments section is full of "They pull soft blows on Hillary! SNL has been bought out by $hillary!" mobs. This confuses me, because... McKinnon depicts Hillary as an out-of-touch, robotic, power-hungry narcissist. Not exactly the most positive of portrayals. And people act like the media LOVES Hillary Clinton and HATES Trump, when in reality it's the other way around.
‘Kate McKinnin’s Hilary is more of a villianous cartoon impression like Invader Zim’ OH MY GOD YOURE RIGHT! This really makes the world a better place, this phrase having been said out loud finally. Thank you, Lindsay. All hail Kate! All hail Zim!
I, too, like Kate's interpretation of Hillary. I'm not a fan of the whole shrill, beleaguered harpy wife she was portrayed as in the late '90s. Kate's captures the essence of her demeanor while exaggerating it in amusing ways. I hadn't seen that meme video before and lost my shit, lol! Holy hell, what the ffffff that was hilARIOUS! Nice vid. Entertaining and educational. :)
Are there really all that many representations of him? As far as I know they all just portray him as an arrogant businessman with delusions of grandeur. Not much in terms of loose canon, unless there's something I don't know about (which wouldn't be difficult, I never paid much attention to him).
I'd die to have Lindsey hey back into making Loose Canon episodes. I want one on Michael Jackson SO SO SO badly. Elvis would be interesting too. Also Barack Obama. That'd be so amazing
Ah, was expecting it to be more politically charged, that's refreshing... Plan to do the same with Trump? If there is enough stuff on him for that that is...
That last bit really captures my thoughts on American impressions of Angela Merkel, who always just has a generic German accent. Have Americans never heard her talk or do they just don't really care whether she actually has an accent?
I like your stuff, I've been binge watching it a crap load lately and I really enjoy everything so far. Probably the best from Channel Awesome as far as I'm concerned.
Those SNL clips at 2:00... all of that was painful in hindsight. Yikes. And there's still fourteen minutes left. Your content is amazing Lindsay, thank you for talking about all of these things.
I enjoyed this and your narration was great. It was an interesting piece not only on Hillary Clinton but on the nature and evolution of how a person is portrayed in satire and encouraged people to think, rather than telling them what to think. Great job!
The Clintons were depicted attending Superman's funeral in the Death of Superman comics. This was before the Lewinsky scandal, so it was played pretty straight, even though Bill was doing his "I feel your pain" gesture in one panel.
Sometimes it baffles me how hated Hilary Clinton is. Growing up in Venezuela, I would often see her being portrayed in cartoons or made fun of in shows, but they would never stop recognizing her intelligence and they would always say that she was the one in power. I loved her! There was nothing I wanted more than being like her. Then the whole Lewinsky scandal came out and I was just so sad that she'd have to face such humiliation and criticism for something that her husband did. I would think that sometimes people forget that she's still human. During the 2016 election I kept reading the news and now I could understand more about her character, she's not perfect, but her policies resembled more what I support. And to this day I still can't believe that the US had the chance to elect a smart, competent woman with years of experience in politics and chose a buffoon with orange skin, just because they're afraid of women in power and she would start a war because women are too "emotional". I hope the years of fear with Trump make people reconsider.
Theres little consistency because corrupt criminal is not a personality type, underneath that is a souless void who doesn't know where the lies end and the truth starts..
It's funny how in many Hispanic churches, people are saying "We should just pray for our nation and hope that the next president is good to our people" but in English speaking churches, members will start saying "let's pray for Trump as president"
After she disabled the comments on the 9/11 video out of basically the same fear, I'm surprised she left the comments on this video open. In my opinion, she should have disabled the comments. I'm scared.
There's no consistency in her impressions through the years, because she has never really been consistent in politics, she changes her arguments within months of each other, her stances on policies, every few years. McKinnon's version is the funniest because, at least in a somewhat less stuffy, internet hipster interpretation of her character, its the most accurate. Doubt we will be seeing as much of her from now on however...
I know this wasn't a full-on Hillary impression per-se, but there was a short lived TV show in 2012 called "Political Animals" which had a Hillary-esque character running for president. She had a philandering ex-husband who used to be president, serving two terms before leaving on a sour note (he slept with a LOT of interns) and the main character, played by Sigourney Weaver, tried running for president herself after her then-husband ended his term. She lost in the primaries and blamed her husband's reputation for it, divorcing him the week after the convention, then she ran against the president, who was in her OWN PARTY, 4 years later. Her ex-husband, who, turns out, is a lot smarter than he looks, ends up becoming her campaign manager, and it was later revealed that she lost the first time not because of him, but because the eventual president kept kicking her ass in the debates. The ending of the series leaves on a cliffhanger- the president intervenes on a hostage crisis and Sigourney finds out that he is, in fact, a wise leader. She apologizes for trying to boot him out of office, but the president tells her he is impressed by her tenacity and offers her a spot as vice president. (He disliked his own vice president, who was a yes man to corporations and was the sleaziest character on the show.) Sigourney tells him she needs a day to decide. The president gives her 24 hours, but, 12 hours later, as Sigourney makes her decision (she wants the vice presidency) the president apparently dies in a plane crash and the sleazy vice president, who the president privately fired but didn't tell anyone about, becomes president. The new president, who knew about the president's offer to Sigourney, vows to make Weaver's life miserable, and the ex-husband gives Sigourney two choices: continue her campaign (she never officially suspended it) or call it quits. The series ends with her uncertain about the future. The show had a lot of characters that were obviously caricatures of people who were relevant back in 2012, and one of the characters may have been an inspiration for Andre from Empire (eldest son who's power hungry and is married to a smoking hot woman of another race, which Weaver disapproves of) but it's definitely worth watching for the MILLIONS of references to Hillary Clinton... especially now, since a version of the sleazy vice president of this show was flat out elected president in real life.
Yes...about Hillary's last name. She was Hillary Rodham while Bill was governor of Arkansas. The terms were only 2 years in Arkansas and he lost his re-election. It is generally thought that Hillary and her in your face feminism that caused the election loss. So She toned it down, changed her name to Rodham-Clinton and became a bit more of a silent partner and Bill was reelected. People generally don't like her. For example she had to move to New York for her Senate seat...she (probably) couldn't win in Arkansas.
McKinnon's Hillary is genius. I love how it makes her awkwardness endearing. Puts a human face on the impression, not just a stereotype, and that's what makes it funny.
Well done, Lindsay. This is probably the tenth video of yours that I have watched. Other presenters could cover the same material, but I find your videos to be entertaining enough to keep me interested.
I haven't looked but i'm guessing the comments section is full of vile, sexist and outright absurd remarks because of "te womz". Admittedly it's not that different from the normal comments on this site but...
I'm an australian woman, I hate Hillary. She and the democratic elites undermined Bernie's chances in the Primary and that's why people refused to vote for her and therefore Trump won the election. We had a female prime minister a few years ago, she was wonderful, people hated her for being female. That was real sexism, most people hate Hillary for her dishonesty and alliance with Wall St. Don't delude yourselves, otherwise Trump'll get a second term.
There is more than one reason, there is to most things. It wasn't racism or sexism that led to Hillary's loss, Bernie was pulling crowds Trump can only dream of with his message of standing together. Fear is a powerful motivator, but nothing is as powerful as hope. When hope dies, fear takes hold. It's sad to see the world this way :(
Yeah, I don't normally advocate FOR disabling the comments section, but this is one case where it's absolutely appropriate. The angry anti-Hillary conspiracy theorist crowds that invade every comments section when her name is even uttered make my blood boil with seething rage.
Right on queue It's like they have an Adam-West Esque alarm for any media about Hillary that isn't "DAT COLD BITCH HAS NO SMILE AND NEEDZ LOCKED UP FOR DEM CRIMEZ"
With the 9/11 one there was the fact of thousands of people who'd lost relatives to that incident, who probably don't need to be harassed by "truthers."
COME ON JACK THE RIPPER; also great video as always Lindsay. But honestly, my favourite of the SNL skits had to be when Poeler and Mckinnon's Hillarys came together XD
+mosse matters No, you shouldn't have told people you get the iorny. Then a bunch people could be commenting on your comment commenting on how people need to stop commenting about the comments.
I have heard a lot about the brilliance of SNL.
I have now seen SNL.
I am now confused.
Please don't tell me you're basing your opinion on a few seconds from like 10 clips from from 808 episodes over a 41 year span.
You have to watch it in like the 80's before it became CNN with a laugh track
It’s... a checkered history.
It *used to be* really good. Nowadays it's basically a bunch of open mic night "comedians" trying to mimic what they remember was funny in the 90s, and failing horribly.
SNL started as a radical outlet during the rise of the American Counterculture, when simply not confirming to established standards was enough to make a giant impression. In decades since, it's become an institution, and lost its primary motivation of subversive abandon, in favor of self preservation. It has accrued enough respect that occasionally recognized talents will humor themselves and conform to the format, but it's more of a medium that can occasionally channel brilliance, then the source of brilliance it once was in past decades.
It's also important when looking back at Revolutionary works, that the best ones get copied endlessly, and some of them improve, leaving the original seeming lackluster in comparison if you don't have nostalgic reference for it. But in its own tíme, it was novel and unique and none of the acts it inspired were around, rather it blew up the decrepit copies of stale acts prior.
A very similar trajectory is evident for The Simpson's, which looks stale and clumsy to fresh eyes, but only because it has reshaped everything in its wake.
For me, what really sold the gay marriage joke was the fact that it was Kate McKinnon saying it. That fact alone makes the joke seem almost personal.
Well today I learned Kate McKinnon is gay
SNL/Kate McKinnon didn't "Call Her out" on her Gay Marriage record... She whitewashed her homophobia and hypocrisy by telling CIS America that LGBT Celebrities have forgiven her and are now campaigning for her.
A very unexpected video.
Finding it in late May 2019 is also quite unexpected, considering... stuff that happened.
Happy to find a comment from this era (somewhere halfway through dystopia)
@@patriciazandilencube4597 'tis truly the darkest timeline
@@patriciazandilencube4597 As long as we are really half way through it...
Cos... Boris Johnson in UK now?
@@MilA-eh3gf Crap !! Hate to sound like my grandma but things aren't looking too good in the world are they?
Reporting in from late August '19.
Y'know, it honestly just now occurred to me that our two candidates in this Presidential election have both legitimately been celebrity presences for over two decades now. There's something fascinating there, though I'm not sure I can properly quantify it right now.
America is obsessed with celebrities and famous people, that's why Bernie didn't do better, he was an unknown for most people before (and sometimes during) the primaries
Obama turned American politics into a shitty celebrity-fest with his garbage cameos and his "better than thou" persona. Half the US ultimately worshiped him for no real reason other than "muh black candidate" and those people had no real knowledge of his policies or American politics in general.
Enter 2016, where the race was persona vs persona and the man the most charisma was constantly in the spotlight, as well as a pied piper plan by the main opposition that backfired along with rumors that the Democratic primaries were rigged that were confirmed in one way or another. The most corrupt candidate in American history gambling on multiple fronts and losing because of sheer arrogance, then blaming her loss on the Russians of all things like we were in a cold war all over again.
Professor Groyper the most corrupt candidate in American history won.
@@JasperJanssen Yes, Hillary "won" the popular vote. We know.
Professor Groyper hi
I had a dream that you ran a store at the local mall where you sold books, cereal, and used Atari games. We were casual acquaintances and you would always slip me an extra box of Reeses Puffs or recommend a new book whenever I came in. You were dressed as Scarlet O'Hara for some reason.
Thanks for the dream-cereal.
What an... odd dream. I had a dream about Todd once. He was just reviewing a song he has never actually reviewed in real life.
I have very chill low-key absurd dreams.
I had a dream where I was hanging out with Allison watching Dark Dungeons during a cult meeting.
Get the location right and something like that could actually work. Sort of a Starbucks but way more chill kind of vibe to it. Get a bowl of cereal with whatever extras you want on it, grab a book off the shelf, and then on the way out pick up a retro game for later.
This it totally the kind of dream I would have. Just being casual acquaintances with someone on tv/youtube.
9/11. Hilary Clinton. Someone clearly doesn't fear the Internet.
Glad that Lindsay doesn't.
But Jeffrey Epstein, as of August 10th? He just *might.*
Loose Canon: LITERALLY HITLER
This aged well
guess maybe she should have
So, twenty years of Clinton jokes... for nothing.
Absolutely nothing.
Probably because of Clinton jokes
Well it might have kept her out of the oval office so you really can't complain
@@poopoopeepee6780 Al Gore and John Kerry were able to take a dive without all this sort of hooplah.
"Generic corporate democrat" has always been destined to fail against a W or Reagan clone. It's what they exist to do - defeat leftists, lose the general, allow the elite to enrich themselves further.
It's likely her gender helped her do as well as she did - if she were a man and Bill was a woman, how would society view a Hillard Rodham? A recipient of nepotism who is only relevant due to riding off his wife's status? A wife that banged bimbos on the side, who he stayed with only for material gain?
@johnmburt1960 imagine being openly gay in 2020. Oof
@johnmburt1960 so you're not even American and you're trying to throw shade at our president? Lol what shithole are you from?
I love the manic, wide eyed expressions that Kate McKinnons Hillary has. She can also mimic Hillary's voice and speech pattern pretty close.
"Fred and Wilma" dynamic is funny, because Tress MacNeille, who impersonated Hillary in all those WB cartoons, also voices Wilma Flintstone.
I haven't even read the comments and I'm telling you to not go down there.
Okay okay I'm scared too.
Actually, it's surprisingly tame. For example: Nobody has accused Lindsay of being "bought out" by the "shadow corpocracy" yet.
It's been a few hours. Give it a couple of days and that kind of person will show up. :/
Yet.
Everything Goldmark said. I think what makes McKinnon's Saturday-morning cartoon villain Hillary so amusing is that she's portraying the Hillary that the right-wing believes so strongly is real.
"Wow, these shows really had it in for Pauly Shore."
HE DESERVED IT.
That'll teach Pauly for... existing?
The weasel!
@@DarrenSemotiuk Bio-dome.
3:42 the name of the news stand is "BERNIE'S"
*foreshadowing*
If only.
not really it would seem
:(
I think the reason Hilary's portrayals have been so inconsistent is because, to be honest, she's kind of a boring person in real life so it's kind've hard not to change her personality completely when you're spoofing and/or satirizing her
I dunno, ‘superpredators’ really speaks to her character.
Seriously tho, the skits where she talks about standing for whatever is most popular opinion at any given point are pretty accurate and that behavior became her hallmark political talking point. It’s kind of hard to know who she is when the real Hilary doesn’t stand for much beyond ‘I’m a woman’ and ‘what are your views?’
@@gateauxq4604 Yeah she is definitely a very traditional style politician who doesn't seem genuine. There are worse things though, like someone who is a genuinely, absurdly awful individual.
She seems quite a banal politician for me, like our president in France, deregulating the economy but giving some "equal right cookies" without doing something really useful to reach a real equity...
And never questions the military side of global trade, of course (and trump is the same for that, the difference is that he chose the "please to conservatives" strategy but it doesn't matter for the economic side, giving rights or not changes almost nothing for big companies after all )
But here in France we see some dark shit now behing these very "common and "at the middle"politicians", with the lots of police abuses, like giving order to charge a mass of people...next to the river of a city...one guy died in June, he drowned... and the "police of police" was like "no error happens" before the body was found...
All this just because a dj played after the legal time during the national "music party day"... ordering cops to charge lot of people counting a lot drunk and/or stone very late isn't a good idea, ans next to a river even more... but it passed
A man close to our president putting police outfits and weapons and beating badly a protester during an authorised manifestation...not very surprising...
A lot of politicians are shady, and when they're into power the image doesn't last long...(if they were posing as "liberals" (fake ones), for the ones who chose to drag conservatives votes it's even less surprising, even if trump's government is doing even worqe that I bet with some friends during the us elections...)
johnmburt1960 yea Obama was a total “no drama president.” Started another war, turned Libya into a country with open air slave trade, signed a drone strike his third day in office, tried to destroy social security, and oh yea ruined the greatest opportunity for a comprehensive medical system. These are all just the greatest! Totally no drama! Don’t forget they’re on our team, that means you can’t criticize them!
@marino deželak THIS is why there is no hope for this country.
it's sort of a conflicting feeling to see it laid out here that hillary's depiction as a power hungry schemer is clearly rooted in sexism, even though she genuinely does come across as a power hungry schemer.
i guess its less that i dont think she deserves that sort of characterization, and more that it concerns me that so many equally sleazy male politicians arent criticized as harshly for the same moral failings. its always worse when a woman does it i guess
As an Irish guy, I don't get what you Americans find funny in SNL. It's all boring, forced, and predictable. It feels like a kids sitcom but with swearing.
I have a working hypothesis right now that SNL is something people grow into and then out of. Like, it appeals to a certain narrow-band age / experience range.
Maybe you started on the out-end of the target?
That's because it "IS" a Kid-friendly show, it's free OTA (Over the Air), and thus is subject to what's known as Standards and Practices. Shows on OTA networks are basically told that "a kid could be watching this"
Cable shows aren't subject to this, but they have their own broadcast rules (Comedy Central is notoriously lax, hence South Park, and The Daily Show.)
It's really only ever good during intense political turmoil.
A lot of it is cultural. Most Americans don't get English/European/Whatever humour and vice-versa
Yeah, I mostly grew out of SNL after it had a very obvious anti-Bernie slant. They alternated between painting him as a delusional old man and an evil, conniving commie. I know the show is meant to poke fun at politicians, but they always ended their portrayals with a more positive view of them, even Trump. Not so with Bernie.
100% of the comments are talking about the comments
Truth right here
I'd say 70% are meta comments. The other 30% are talking about how shitty SNL still is.
I know! It's hilarious.
better than the other option
Well, when the other option was MAD TV, we tended to assume there was no alternative to SNL.
But now we have shows like Key and Peele and Portlandia to compare it to.
Wow the comments on this video are shockingly civil. then again maybe I'm just early?
Yea, thought I could put fire to it all, but it seems like everyone here is just stale as f#%¤
KaptajnKaffe
lol well it gives me hope that Lindsey fans might be immune to trolls.
undetestable1
They are not immune, and way to easy to bait TBH, and they usually cry a river over so called "online violence!" Ie. saying mean words on the internet,
KaptajnKaffe
TBH?
undetestable1
To Be Honest
I always sort of wondered why people were so bugged out about Hillary Clinton until I learned that they literally forced her to bake cookies in the 90's and everything kind of clicked together.
Or, she's just a horrible person.
From the beginning, no one liked her cause she worked instead of being just bills wife. And then she made that baking cookie remark and Bills team made her bake cookies. It was all downhill from there. She’s never really done anything serious.
Wayne Rembert everyone in politics is a horrible person. There is nothing to hate her more than quite literally any other politician esp the ones that are currently arrested, dead, or facing lawsuits for sexual abuse and assault
@@Katherine-en8lv The seventy some odd bodies tied to them would probably beg to differ
Aaron Sicard I see you’re new to world powers lmfao.
"You know who I haven't heard of in a while? Hillary Clinton *snicker*"
couldn't say that with a straight face, could ya?
It is surprising how calm this comment section is.
Reading this comment thread in 2019 is like the last scene in "The Birds"
It really is, usually when a youtube video is talking about current politicians, the comments section becomes the American Civil War 2: Electric Boogaloo 4K Ultra HD Edition.
The real question is why this was recommended to me in February 2020.
Impressions boil down from accuracy into amplifying the most erratic and humorous traits of the subject. It happens almost all the time with any character in fiction. Biggest example I always see is Peter Griffin. He starts the series as a loving, misguided man with a bit of an IQ degrade to full blown idiot by the end of it. That trait was found to be the most humorous, so they decided to magnify and bring it front.
You basically described flanderization.
@@RyanStorey1231 Flanders definitely went that route. He started off as a mildly religious, slightly too cheery neighbor. He had beer on tap in his basement, smoked a pipe and burnt his tie ("this noose I have been wearing...") when he announced that he's opening up his own business. We all know how he ended up.
gilear
I used to feel bad for her, after her recent stabs at Bernie, especially on the howard stern show, I feel a bit less bad for her. Too bad, she kind of his turning into one of her caricatures, or maybe she is turning out to be rather than into.
asher gaines no, she wasn’t. She has no one to blame for losing that election except her own campaign.
asher gaines for a sec there you literally said “its not her fault its her campaigns” and well read my comment bub. Her and her campaign, whose staff are a reflection of her character and decision making skills. Yeah shit happened at inopportune times, but same could be said of trumps campaign (grab her by the pussy?) and he was able to keep it going. I mainly take issue with ppl (mainly HRC herself) saying bernie is somehow responsible for her loss. Meanwhile bernie did multiple rallies for her, as rigorously a schedule as he has on his own campaign.
I like it when she talks more like that, honestly. Though admittedly I dislike Bernie Sanders.
If anyone is interested on the search for the missing original Animaniacs episode, I found this great wiki/blog where an administrator finds the original aired episode and another member messages animator Tom Ruegger.
forums.lostmediawiki.com/thread/523/hillary-clinton-animaniacs-original-exist
I think Hillary is incredibly lucky in who her opposition candidate this year is; then again so is Trump. If either of them were running against somebody else they would most likely lose.
Ehh, of the republican candidates Trumps probably the one she had worst odds against. Cruz would probably have been the 'best' candidate for Hillary, after all, he is the Zodiac Killer.
I agree that both of them would prob loose to a tree(atleast those won't blow up the country)
Tom, Tom... Tom. If Trump wasn't running, this would be an actual election, not a reality show. Hillary wouldn't even be in 3rd place.
Where is an honest Redwood or Jacaranda to lead us in our time of corruption and double-speak ; _ ;
Vanguard Redwood? The cigarette brand from GTA?
Sooooo... is it me, or is the fear of an independent, powerful woman driving a lot of Hillary Clinton's portrayals?
That's easily part of it, but there's also quite a bit more that I'd rather not get into right now. :|
Fear? perhaps 'concern' at least, but mostly it's a rather novel concept worth mentioning. If we're talking comedy which most of this is, comedy is going to focus on the downsides of any aspect. *sigh* Honestly, out of all the women in the world to be the "strong independent power woman" Clinton is the best humanity could put forth? There have been worse men, if it matters, but certainly *far* better women than her.
You usually fear a crook
Yeah...
Yeah but she might be an ant-vaxxer and a Truther, so yeah she's got issues too.
there’s a certain sadness in this video. this is a little time capsule from Before.
Lindsay stumbled on something weird here: no, the Animaniacs episode as aired didn't have an original, alternate cut with Hillary in the chair, but YES, the original song (which you can find on the soundtracks) had the lyric "Clinton, first name Hillary." Tom Ruegger himself confirmed it to a fan: forums.lostmediawiki.com/thread/523/hillary-clinton-animaniacs-original-exist
So apparently, Lindsay Ellis owned an Animaniacs soundtrack on CD as a kid.
Its like a litmus test of peoples attitudes towards women who seek power
As a European, I have never seen these before. I have always wondered why Americans' perception pf her was so weird, and now I know why. They can't tell what is real and what is not because of the media portrayal of her 😩
I have never seen these either, except for Kate Mckinnon’s. I’m American. I promise you, a lot of the 330 million people in the U.S. have not seen these clips from random shows. I promise you a few of us use critical thinking and understand what propaganda and biased media is, just like you in Europe.
I think Hillary Clinton is going to be remembered by history. I mean, not for any good or bad reason in particular. Just...how much of an impression she has and continues to make on people's feelings about women in power. Probably going to see a paragraph in a textbook one day about "Hillary Clinton's influence on women in politics at the turn of the millenium".
That or part of the lesson that we should never let overly entitled people who both thought they
*deserved* to be president run in the main election ever again.
@@gateauxq4604 Yeah I feel that if ANYONE else had sat on the Democratic ticket, they could've won. But Hillary was the worst candidate the Democrats had
A horrible influence.
@@Jamie-kg8ig Both major parties had the worst candidates
@@patrickcorby1423 come one. One was far worse than the other, no competition. She was an awful candidate but on balance, the winner was worse by almost every metric.
I effing love Kate McKinnon she is gift from the heavens.
She is the best thing that has happened to SNL in years. :)
Tekno Pathetic Yeah. Weird is good. If you dislike her now, you should have seen her in Big Gay Sketch Show where she played Fitzwilliam, a little English boy who wanted to have a vagina and had an alcoholic stuffed unicorn named Trixie. I think she's hilarious.
That's cool. It's not your thing.
Alicia She's one of the only funny female cast members on SNL currently, Aidy Bryant is ok, Leslie Jones is so fucking annoying, Cecily Strong is funny(I haven't watched SNL and in forever so I don't remember all the women in the cast)
@@chayden153 I would say one of the only funny cast members period, male or female
It's amazing how much the sexism of some of those older sketches feels cartoonish in the modern day. The only times I see men telling women to go bake cookies now are either ironic or people being very intentionally misogynistic. I wonder what today's jokes will look like in 50 years, when people will wonder how anyone could ever think like that.
Loved this video, Lindsay. Never realized how many portrayals of Mrs. Clinton there were o_o
I remember in 2008's Grand Theft Auto IV seeing Hillary as the fictionalized version of the Statue of Liberty.
The statue of Hillberty
Wait that was Hillary? I thought that was just some terrifying alteration...
I think Kate did the best impression, not because it was an impression squared, but because it's exactly how many Americans viewed Hillary. She ran because "it was her turn," she acted like it was, and that's why it's not President-Elect Clinton. A lot of factors went into the voting issues, but McKinnon tapped that "well, duh" attitude that pols have the rest of America is pretty much done with.
The best thing that can happen is for SNL and the like to do impressions of the impressive amount of shitty Representatives, Senators, and Governors. I doubt they will, because we're about to have a Tweeter in Chief that'll distract any meaningful satire from happening.
I'll double down; the absolute best thing satirical media can do is completely ignore Trump and aim their criticism at federal and state level government positions.
Almost seven years later and... Oh boy this prediction did not age well! SNL basically parodied every single politician at this point!
Prepare for "are you going to cover her lies?" comments.
+Matt Post
At least it isn't antisemitic comments. *cough* David Duke's "Israel money" tweet *cough*.
+Doughboy Devito Fucking hell.
+Matt Post
Yup, if a Southern Methodist candidate ends up having to deal with some hateful antisemitism, imagine the amount of antisemitism that an actual Jewish candidate like Bernie Sanders would have had to deal with.
Sad. I feel in Sanders' case any perception of antisemitism, at least if it was tacitly condoned by Trump would energize more moderates to him. Then again that's hopelessly naive probably.
I'm not saying Hillary employs death squads to cover her lies...
I'm so relieved this was actually a clever pun on words, and not a misspelling. This channel is like an oasis for smart people!
Paging r/iamverysmart.
recyclebin >using Reddit hyperlinks outside Reddit
r/cringe
Ironically enough, President Trump is acting as a real-life Saturday morning cartoon villain
What an original take.
Be real. President Trump IS a Saturday morning cartoon villain. He’s like if The Mayor from Kablam’s Action League Now was on Captain Planet.
@/X/EN Even if you only look at his policies and not his overarching personality, he really is still a villain.
Glad Lindsay thinks this was similar to Invader Zim, e;r and Lindsay have just the one thing in common
But which villain? Mostly a Captain Planet foe, or sometimes Zartan as president...
It's real crazy to see like, at the time presidents appearing in kids cartoons back in the day. Like that doesn't really happen anymore, at all. Could ya'll imagine sitting at home watching your stevens universe and all of a sudden Donald Trump appears?
I remember a cartoon where Michelle Obama appeared.
I'd love to see Lindsay talk about depictions of other US politicians, like George W Bush or JFK or Nixon!
Hillary was accused of speaking with a Southern accent when she was campaigning for president in the South, so South Park spoofed it. Also, I wish you covered Madtv's impression of Hillary during the 90's.
10:30 This is satirizing Clinton's weird tendency to take on a Southern accent when speaking in Southern States. Specifically, based on her outfit, it seems to be ripping on a now infamous 2007 rally in Selma, AL where her fake southern accent was especially pronounced.
Tina Fey as Sarah Palin and Amy Poehler as Hillary Clinton . Match made in heaven.
Anything they do together is a match made in heaven.
I am just glad to have something to show the "Liberal media is sucking up to Hillary" crowd
Yea...I never knew how bad people joke about Hillary
God, those people enrage me. Whenever I watch a Hillary Clinton sketch on SNL (McKinnon's), the comments section is full of "They pull soft blows on Hillary! SNL has been bought out by $hillary!" mobs.
This confuses me, because... McKinnon depicts Hillary as an out-of-touch, robotic, power-hungry narcissist. Not exactly the most positive of portrayals.
And people act like the media LOVES Hillary Clinton and HATES Trump, when in reality it's the other way around.
***** I give you a "yep" at the first sentence, but I will have to save reading the rest for another day. My depression is acting up.
+butchdeadlift10 I completely understand.
Please Be REALLY WELL!! ^_^
‘Kate McKinnin’s Hilary is more of a villianous cartoon impression like Invader Zim’
OH MY GOD YOURE RIGHT! This really makes the world a better place, this phrase having been said out loud finally. Thank you, Lindsay. All hail Kate! All hail Zim!
I, too, like Kate's interpretation of Hillary. I'm not a fan of the whole shrill, beleaguered harpy wife she was portrayed as in the late '90s. Kate's captures the essence of her demeanor while exaggerating it in amusing ways.
I hadn't seen that meme video before and lost my shit, lol! Holy hell, what the ffffff that was hilARIOUS!
Nice vid. Entertaining and educational. :)
I can't wait till we get to Lindsey's video on Trump. Thats going to be just as hilarious 😂😂😂
Are there really all that many representations of him? As far as I know they all just portray him as an arrogant businessman with delusions of grandeur. Not much in terms of loose canon, unless there's something I don't know about (which wouldn't be difficult, I never paid much attention to him).
He's in home alone 2!
yeah I can't think of any that don't fall into that very narrow descriptor, serious or comedic
There are so so so many impressions and representations of Trump.
No shit? [googles IMDB]
... well I'll be~
RIP, Jan Hooks and Phil Hartman. Nice to see an old sketch. :)
You are so amazing at analyzing every detail, already looking forward to the next LC
I don't like her politics but so much of her hate is just not so subtle sexism
I'd die to have Lindsey hey back into making Loose Canon episodes. I want one on Michael Jackson SO SO SO badly. Elvis would be interesting too. Also Barack Obama. That'd be so amazing
Ah, was expecting it to be more politically charged, that's refreshing... Plan to do the same with Trump? If there is enough stuff on him for that that is...
why should she do one for trump?
in the event he loses, you wanna be topical
Just political fairness. Not that i would bother me if she don't
Well there's the whole era of the Apprentice when he was known for: "You're fired"
screw political fairness
That last bit really captures my thoughts on American impressions of Angela Merkel, who always just has a generic German accent. Have Americans never heard her talk or do they just don't really care whether she actually has an accent?
Why is this popping up in my feed now? This is from 4 years ago.
I like your stuff, I've been binge watching it a crap load lately and I really enjoy everything so far. Probably the best from Channel Awesome as far as I'm concerned.
Hey Lindsay, what happened to the cool Loose Canon opening you used in the Mystique video? I really loved it...
Honestly, I just totally forgot.
we all do some times
This was brilliant! I'm loving these episodes that cover how a real-life person or event is portrayed.
Kate McKinnon is a treasure.
SNL and Hillary without mentioning Norm McDonald? Sounds like something the Germans would have us believe.
Wow..... this video was actually pretty informative and about as free of bias as one could hope for on youtube.
O man, this is great. Please never stop making videos, the internet would be worse without you.
I'm booting up Final Fantasy X, and To Zanarkand starts playing with the video paused on claymation Lewinsky's staired-up face.
Those SNL clips at 2:00... all of that was painful in hindsight. Yikes. And there's still fourteen minutes left.
Your content is amazing Lindsay, thank you for talking about all of these things.
14:55
Kate Mcinnon is my favorite of the everything
Really awesome insight
I enjoyed this and your narration was great. It was an interesting piece not only on Hillary Clinton but on the nature and evolution of how a person is portrayed in satire and encouraged people to think, rather than telling them what to think. Great job!
Amy Pohler is my favorite SNL Hillary. But Kate McKinnon is really delightful.
Great video Lindsay! I love Loose Canon! :DD
Clinton is just really weird.
She is better than Trump, but being better than Trump isn't that hard to do.
Same goes for Biden.
Better? 😂😂😂😂
The Clintons were depicted attending Superman's funeral in the Death of Superman comics. This was before the Lewinsky scandal, so it was played pretty straight, even though Bill was doing his "I feel your pain" gesture in one panel.
Jamie Lee Curtis + Tim Curry = Kate Mckinnon's Hillary
Now that was actually refreshing. I knew all this, but getting reminded in such an interesting way made me press that sub button.
I am curious.
Sometimes it baffles me how hated Hilary Clinton is. Growing up in Venezuela, I would often see her being portrayed in cartoons or made fun of in shows, but they would never stop recognizing her intelligence and they would always say that she was the one in power. I loved her! There was nothing I wanted more than being like her. Then the whole Lewinsky scandal came out and I was just so sad that she'd have to face such humiliation and criticism for something that her husband did. I would think that sometimes people forget that she's still human.
During the 2016 election I kept reading the news and now I could understand more about her character, she's not perfect, but her policies resembled more what I support. And to this day I still can't believe that the US had the chance to elect a smart, competent woman with years of experience in politics and chose a buffoon with orange skin, just because they're afraid of women in power and she would start a war because women are too "emotional". I hope the years of fear with Trump make people reconsider.
You "can't believe" it because it isn't actually true.
Theres little consistency because corrupt criminal is not a personality type, underneath that is a souless void who doesn't know where the lies end and the truth starts..
Your videos rock my socks.
Okay but what I love about your videos is you know when to stop. You keep us interested with a good video for just long enough. Well done
Yea we all used to say "President Clinton and her husband"...
Great Job! This must have been a lot of work. BRAVO!
God. I pray that you spare us the wrath of Trump supporters.
Amen.
(all I can do at this point is pray the comments don't turn to shit)
It's funny how in many Hispanic churches, people are saying "We should just pray for our nation and hope that the next president is good to our people" but in English speaking churches, members will start saying "let's pray for Trump as president"
Your wife's son would be proud of your stalwart opposition to the political adversary, sir.
Aaaand that's when I mute the post.
Lyserberg Bye Felecia
After she disabled the comments on the 9/11 video out of basically the same fear, I'm surprised she left the comments on this video open.
In my opinion, she should have disabled the comments. I'm scared.
There's no consistency in her impressions through the years, because she has never really been consistent in politics, she changes her arguments within months of each other, her stances on policies, every few years. McKinnon's version is the funniest because, at least in a somewhat less stuffy, internet hipster interpretation of her character, its the most accurate. Doubt we will be seeing as much of her from now on however...
I know this wasn't a full-on Hillary impression per-se, but there was a short lived TV show in 2012 called "Political Animals" which had a Hillary-esque character running for president. She had a philandering ex-husband who used to be president, serving two terms before leaving on a sour note (he slept with a LOT of interns) and the main character, played by Sigourney Weaver, tried running for president herself after her then-husband ended his term. She lost in the primaries and blamed her husband's reputation for it, divorcing him the week after the convention, then she ran against the president, who was in her OWN PARTY, 4 years later. Her ex-husband, who, turns out, is a lot smarter than he looks, ends up becoming her campaign manager, and it was later revealed that she lost the first time not because of him, but because the eventual president kept kicking her ass in the debates. The ending of the series leaves on a cliffhanger- the president intervenes on a hostage crisis and Sigourney finds out that he is, in fact, a wise leader. She apologizes for trying to boot him out of office, but the president tells her he is impressed by her tenacity and offers her a spot as vice president. (He disliked his own vice president, who was a yes man to corporations and was the sleaziest character on the show.) Sigourney tells him she needs a day to decide. The president gives her 24 hours, but, 12 hours later, as Sigourney makes her decision (she wants the vice presidency) the president apparently dies in a plane crash and the sleazy vice president, who the president privately fired but didn't tell anyone about, becomes president. The new president, who knew about the president's offer to Sigourney, vows to make Weaver's life miserable, and the ex-husband gives Sigourney two choices: continue her campaign (she never officially suspended it) or call it quits. The series ends with her uncertain about the future.
The show had a lot of characters that were obviously caricatures of people who were relevant back in 2012, and one of the characters may have been an inspiration for Andre from Empire (eldest son who's power hungry and is married to a smoking hot woman of another race, which Weaver disapproves of) but it's definitely worth watching for the MILLIONS of references to Hillary Clinton... especially now, since a version of the sleazy vice president of this show was flat out elected president in real life.
Yes...about Hillary's last name. She was Hillary Rodham while Bill was governor of Arkansas. The terms were only 2 years in Arkansas and he lost his re-election. It is generally thought that Hillary and her in your face feminism that caused the election loss. So She toned it down, changed her name to Rodham-Clinton and became a bit more of a silent partner and Bill was reelected. People generally don't like her. For example she had to move to New York for her Senate seat...she (probably) couldn't win in Arkansas.
It's interesting how you can see the trivilization of national politics 20-30 years ago on TV. And people wonder why they got a reality tv star...
McKinnon's Hillary is genius. I love how it makes her awkwardness endearing. Puts a human face on the impression, not just a stereotype, and that's what makes it funny.
In a way I wish you had waited _just_ a little bit so you could have touched on SNLs take on the debates. _Those_ were glorious.
I'm surprised guys. The comments are quite nice. Congrats guys!
Why does America always get so fucking angry whenever I offer them free healthcare???
Well done, Lindsay. This is probably the tenth video of yours that I have watched. Other presenters could cover the same material, but I find your videos to be entertaining enough to keep me interested.
I haven't looked but i'm guessing the comments section is full of vile, sexist and outright absurd remarks because of "te womz".
Admittedly it's not that different from the normal comments on this site but...
As it turns out, not that many disgusting assholes follow Lindsey.
No, comments section is full of comments like yours.
I'm an australian woman, I hate Hillary. She and the democratic elites undermined Bernie's chances in the Primary and that's why people refused to vote for her and therefore Trump won the election.
We had a female prime minister a few years ago, she was wonderful, people hated her for being female. That was real sexism, most people hate Hillary for her dishonesty and alliance with Wall St.
Don't delude yourselves, otherwise Trump'll get a second term.
Annie Banannie
It is possible for there to be more than one reason.
There is more than one reason, there is to most things.
It wasn't racism or sexism that led to Hillary's loss, Bernie was pulling crowds Trump can only dream of with his message of standing together.
Fear is a powerful motivator, but nothing is as powerful as hope.
When hope dies, fear takes hold.
It's sad to see the world this way :(
This was really good! I enjoyed this :]
Oh dear. Looking at the date on this...(ellipses intensify)
The hysterical back and forth comments on this vlog are SO much better than the video itself, lol:)
Of course this is the video you don't lock the comments on. Bold move.
Great video and interesting theme! Thanks, Linsay! Looking forward to your next one :)
I'm surprised the comment section isn't disabled like the 9/11 one was.
Yeah, I don't normally advocate FOR disabling the comments section, but this is one case where it's absolutely appropriate. The angry anti-Hillary conspiracy theorist crowds that invade every comments section when her name is even uttered make my blood boil with seething rage.
***** And here they come...
Right on queue
It's like they have an Adam-West Esque alarm for any media about Hillary that isn't "DAT COLD BITCH HAS NO SMILE AND NEEDZ LOCKED UP FOR DEM CRIMEZ"
With the 9/11 one there was the fact of thousands of people who'd lost relatives to that incident, who probably don't need to be harassed by "truthers."
i dont like her (also don't like trump, gotta clarify) but this election being as heated as it is, i'm surpised the comment section isn't disabled.
COME ON JACK THE RIPPER; also great video as always Lindsay. But honestly, my favourite of the SNL skits had to be when Poeler and Mckinnon's Hillarys came together XD
will everyone please stop commenting about the comments and comment on the actual video? jesus christ
the irony isnt lost on me that im telling everyone not do something i just did but u get the point
+mosse matters
No, you shouldn't have told people you get the iorny. Then a bunch people could be commenting on your comment commenting on how people need to stop commenting about the comments.
FYI, you're doing the very thing you've told others not to do.
Paul Johnson read my reply on my own comment honey
mosse matters Oops! Didn't see that!
This was great! I love all the SNL portrayals of Hilary:) and the Invader Zim cameo made my day!!!
hey lindsey! could you maybe do a loose canon on some themes such as Artificial intelligence?
This is amazing to see today, thank you. :)