NEW Heresy Dungeon Trailer Just Dropped (Sundered Doctrine Breakdown) | Destiny 2

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  • Опубліковано 5 лют 2025
  • Today, we got a brand new trailer from Bungie giving us a look at the upcoming dungeon for Heresy: Sundered Doctrine. We watched it back and broke down everything that we saw in the trailer with chat.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 254

  • @pacioli
    @pacioli 18 годин тому +115

    DJ Dread dropping sick strand beats about 23 seconds into the trailer. about 5:00 in this.

  • @noahhyatt
    @noahhyatt 18 годин тому +66

    In Destiny 2, the word "Heresy" has most frequently been used in reference to hive necromancy. Just a thought

  • @silverthehero1295
    @silverthehero1295 16 годин тому +20

    The Dread are most annoying. Grims are numerous, agile and can “suppress” you, Tormentors take far less damage that isn’t precision, Husks are fast and punish you for non precision kills.

  • @realnoble676
    @realnoble676 15 годин тому +52

    Sword logic worked for centuries, it wasn’t until guardians came along where they actually started losing. And it’s also only been a few years since we started winning so to the hive, that’s only a small amount of time

    • @chair2355
      @chair2355 15 годин тому +16

      Goes to show how truly powerful we are. The hive have been conquering the entire universe for billions of years facing no resistance, all to get halted dead in their tracks in just ten by a golf ball and its children

    • @VoidCraftGaming
      @VoidCraftGaming 14 годин тому

      @chair2355 LOL

    • @dankerbell
      @dankerbell 9 годин тому

      ​@chair2355that's part of the reason the traveler did it in the first place, because it was tired of running and also it didn't want the hive to be the final shape

    • @kojeb
      @kojeb 9 годин тому

      the sword logic didn’t stop “working” the hive just didn’t foresee a time where they weren’t the ones with the right to exist

    • @KenpoKid77
      @KenpoKid77 5 годин тому

      @@kojeb Maybe it hasn't stopped working, but it was definitely overidden by Eris Morn when she defeated Xivu Arath without killing her.

  • @wolfisaiahboy
    @wolfisaiahboy 18 годин тому +216

    Hey, at least the video isn't 10 minutes

    • @gengarclefairy3475
      @gengarclefairy3475 18 годин тому +8

      They changed larger ads to only need 8 minutes years ago so…

    • @catgodswim
      @catgodswim 17 годин тому +12

      3:24 killed me because of how the rest of the video was after that, "oh, wait a minute, it's the horses... aren't they kinda semi obsessed with horses? ... I thought starhorse was a meme" I fucking lost it

    • @RandomGuy-ci9nt
      @RandomGuy-ci9nt 16 годин тому +2

      He did just spend like 10 hours awake

    • @Sheep-7-101
      @Sheep-7-101 13 годин тому +1

      🙌 normalize making lots of videos under 10 minutes

    • @brlopez4
      @brlopez4 3 години тому

      if you can’t pay attention just say that

  • @sirnoodles5588
    @sirnoodles5588 16 годин тому +51

    No, we guardians aren't zombies, we're liches. we keep respawning after death, and the ghost is our phylactery.. Add our space magic to the mix...yea we totally liches

    • @MarkLoganFIB
      @MarkLoganFIB 14 годин тому

      Liches are a type of zombie...
      For one liches are undead.
      Second: zombies don't have a strict definition. A zombie could be sapient a zombie may not be. Culture depicts them as both frequently.
      So, no if we use Zombie as an umbrella term, liches are zombies. "Well zombies are specific" no they aren't. A Zombi in voodoo practices has a very different role than Zombies in western folklore and myth.

    • @IQDESTRUCTOR
      @IQDESTRUCTOR 14 годин тому +2

      "9mm kills the body, but .45ACP kills the Ghost, gotta make sure they don't come back as a Guardian"

    • @grimmSOL
      @grimmSOL 7 годин тому

      In short, zombies with space magic.

  • @kojeb
    @kojeb 15 годин тому +28

    7:51 succumbing to a stronger foe is not a refutation of the sword logic, its an embodiment of it. *all* things must prove their right to exist, that which can be destroyed, must be destroyed. there is no escape nor exemption

    • @lazyvoid7107
      @lazyvoid7107 15 годин тому

      Cross is forgetting stuffs

    • @O-bearer-mine
      @O-bearer-mine 14 годин тому +4

      Power proves power, losing only means there is a stronger foe than you, proving the rite and solidarity of the sword logic, even Toland believes us killing Oryx proves his sword logic, and that Necromancy is the ultimate hive sin, as it cheats the very act of accepting that you've simply lost to the sword.

  • @RomieEl-Makdah-j5y
    @RomieEl-Makdah-j5y 5 годин тому +1

    I've never been more curious about a horse then I am now while watching a Destiny video.... WE NEED A HORSE SPARROW!!!! RIDE LIKE THE WIND!!!!!!!!

  • @HJW3
    @HJW3 6 годин тому +2

    The episode is called Heresy and the dungeon is called Sundered Doctrine. The most logical explanation is resurrection of some proponent of the sword logic who died, most likely one we know

  • @BrazarB
    @BrazarB 18 годин тому +24

    4:20 p sure the reason horses have relation with the Witness aesthetic is because horses can represent free will, or something along those lines, & given how the Witness is all about control, could fit. In Salvation's Edge pre 3rd Enc theres a horse statue thats cut up & has stuff in between them, can be seen as the Witness elimanting freedom of choice. But specifically with Vow, those horses with multiple appendeges can be seen as semi representations of the Witness, a single individual but with multiple appendages

    • @smushycows2334
      @smushycows2334 18 годин тому +2

      awesome analysis! Thanks!

    • @tactualoregon8476
      @tactualoregon8476 16 годин тому +1

      I'm also wondering if it could have any connection to Starhorse as well?

  • @Familiar2086
    @Familiar2086 17 годин тому +21

    Destiny hasn't really skirted around us bring zombies or not. It's very definitive when our enemies call us dead things, our companions are called ghosts.
    Ikora has monologs of this. It's not front and center like warframe but it most certainly is there.

  • @Soulverine
    @Soulverine 14 годин тому +11

    When Byf took a few content creators through Salvation's Edge and explained the lore as y'all went (it was like a 2 1/2 hr video), he explained that horses are considered a pivotal figure for transformation and metamorphosis. If you go find that video, you'll get the full answer

  • @kzathefox2873
    @kzathefox2873 12 годин тому +3

    The devs at one point told us the symbolism of horses was transcendence

  • @NathanTipping
    @NathanTipping 13 годин тому +6

    Hey maybe we'll finally come across a mountain of purple bricks from Rhulks encounter

  • @TheBajaBlasts4U
    @TheBajaBlasts4U 11 годин тому +3

    pretty sure starhorse has been canon since Trials of the Nine, feel like i remember the horse being in the flawless reward room at the top of that tower

  • @KnightKoR
    @KnightKoR 3 години тому +1

    "GTA 6 early" sent me

  • @samaron8970
    @samaron8970 17 годин тому +9

    I really hope they're just hiding the final boss, we had a step in the right direction with Atraks, I don't want to go back to fighting random enemies that have never had any impact outside of the dungeon itself.

  • @non-existentasukamain766
    @non-existentasukamain766 15 годин тому +3

    Love how cross says he can't stretch the trailer out to get the videoto 8 minutes but then ends up talking about horses for half the video 😭

  • @tronicalli7587
    @tronicalli7587 6 годин тому +2

    0:39 anyone else see that little dot above the guy's head? Looks like the "finishable" marker, lmfao

  • @s-brad503_5
    @s-brad503_5 4 години тому

    1:42 Where a single Grim can 1v1 you on contest mode💀💀💀

  • @tacarat
    @tacarat 18 годин тому +13

    5:50, that guy is trying to make a phone call on an old rotary phone.

  • @AurelieAris
    @AurelieAris 14 годин тому +1

    I sometimes forget the Grim are considered annoying because being someone that exclusively plays with Necrochasm they all just die the instant they spawn in their groups

  • @kyawlaw3226
    @kyawlaw3226 14 годин тому +2

    He talks about horses for 2 mins 😂😂

    • @kojeb
      @kojeb 9 годин тому +2

      he’s real af for that

  • @ghillieman1829
    @ghillieman1829 17 годин тому +2

    I'm still sad that we didn't get a taken super, the first mission with sloan to the dreaming city would be a good point to get it

  • @AceInTheSpade
    @AceInTheSpade 17 годин тому +4

    I felt that horse monolog.

  • @Neon_Detective
    @Neon_Detective 10 годин тому +1

    The dj strand psion was the original concept for 3rd encounter boss in root of nightmares raid

  • @tristan62099
    @tristan62099 12 годин тому +1

    Starhorse is canon, He was introduced in Season of the Drifter
    i just dont think Bungie had a real plan behind Drifter being confused why the Nine have a Horse

  • @stingspring3168
    @stingspring3168 11 годин тому

    I think the horse connection with the witness is that Horses are the alchemical symbol for transcendence which is what the witness sought with the final shape.

  • @lennard7152
    @lennard7152 5 годин тому

    The hype rollercoaster has slowly started it's ascend

  • @arbiterprime2145
    @arbiterprime2145 17 годин тому +5

    7:00 technically i wouldnt say were zombies, as were not rotting and were not mindless. To me were actually closer to Liches, with Ghost being our phylactery. Weve traded our mortality for epic powers and our life force is in another object, which as long as it exists we can come back from the dead.

    • @caseyl5001
      @caseyl5001 16 годин тому

      That sounds like our ghosts are throne worlds.

  • @-ItsVen-
    @-ItsVen- 18 годин тому +3

    Aztecross 2025 "She's dead dead"

  • @supersaiyanbino
    @supersaiyanbino 18 годин тому +5

    Taken armor??? Say yes!!! Please say yes lol

    • @Frodo_swagginsX
      @Frodo_swagginsX 17 годин тому

      Wear the reverie dawn armour and drink a tincture of queensfoil and you become take

  • @ippapp2
    @ippapp2 17 годин тому +5

    The dread with stasis effects are the worse by far

  • @route77productions
    @route77productions 13 годин тому +1

    I’m taking the Triton Vice Vex build into this. So for me it won’t be annoying. I’ll be tanky, and Nigh unkillable. The Nether put this build through its paces and it puts out even when solo.
    Also RIP Edge of Concurrence. I loved you with Triton Vice even before the content creators started to bring the build up.

    • @rodolforivera180
      @rodolforivera180 8 годин тому

      Please share u build brother 🙌🏻

    • @route77productions
      @route77productions 2 години тому

      @@rodolforivera180Stasis Abilties on Prismatic. Super, Melee and Grenade.
      Threaded Specter and Winter’s Shroud to take away aggro and slowing enemies gets your dodge back faster.
      Facet of Protection (DR When surrounded bonus when in transcendence)
      Facet of Ruin (Shatter Damage increase)
      Facet of Dawn (Radiant on Powered Melees and Radiant for allies on Powered Melee kills) Does boost Glaive melee damage, not as noticeable but more noticeable when surrounded, Overshield on and third melee hit lands.
      Facet of Hope (Class Ability faster regen when a buff is active which Void Overshield should be on almost all the time in combat)
      Facet of Blessing (Melee kills start health regen for you and nearby allies which Glaive Melee’s do count)
      Facet of Grace (Kinetic Final Blows grant bonus transcendence energy which Glaive Melee’s count as kinetic damage for some reason)
      Takes around 68 kills without this fragment to get a full Transcendence bars for both alignments and 28 with this fragment on.
      Glaive Melees do grant transcendence energy for both bars simply on hits, but getting it back faster with kills to be able to do more damage and take more damage is really nice.)

  •  Годину тому

    The Horse obsession might be to do with Star Horse and the Nine?

  • @ooziepro
    @ooziepro 12 годин тому

    4:53 the color of the horses also hinting at the missing subclass 🤔🤔

  • @supersaiyanbino
    @supersaiyanbino 18 годин тому +18

    Grims and Tormentors... the worst... used to hate the vex turkey lol

    • @Dakinekine
      @Dakinekine 13 годин тому +1

      Vez turkey😂🤣 I'm dead bruh

    • @SpikeRazzor
      @SpikeRazzor 11 годин тому

      Can't unsee it LOL!

    • @GrimNought
      @GrimNought 9 годин тому +1

      I prefer to call them chickens

    • @callmeriggy
      @callmeriggy 4 години тому

      @@GrimNought So Vex Cocks to go with Vex Milk.

  • @EtotheFnD
    @EtotheFnD 18 годин тому +7

    MY MOMMA TAUGHT ME RIGHT

  • @KD--nz4ck
    @KD--nz4ck 15 годин тому +4

    It’s peak COPE. The game is literally bugged to all hell right now

  • @josephhernandez2964
    @josephhernandez2964 16 годин тому +1

    Rulk is a huge fan of the song Wild Horse!

  • @hadokenchild
    @hadokenchild 5 годин тому

    Hey Cross, lore nerd here. The reason there's so many horses in Rhulk's ship is simply because Bungie could just make one asset and then copy it 1000 times. That's it. That's the lore.

  • @adarkwind4712
    @adarkwind4712 18 годин тому +88

    Hive guardians gotta be the biggest disappointment in destiny history for how hyped and underutilized they are.

    • @toastmon2226
      @toastmon2226 18 годин тому +4

      Preach

    • @DarkPyroZero
      @DarkPyroZero 17 годин тому +20

      We have a whole Dungeon that features them

    • @theremnants6807
      @theremnants6807 17 годин тому +22

      ???
      We had a whole expansion, a dungeon, a season and they are featured in the pale heart as a main faction.

    • @toastmon2226
      @toastmon2226 17 годин тому +3

      @ my conflict is that it took them like 6-9 months to even drop any content pertaining to to Hive Lightbearers whilst we have seen Dread everywhere I feel like even before this Act

    • @adarkwind4712
      @adarkwind4712 17 годин тому +3

      @@theremnants6807 a whole expansion that we played once per character. A dungeon that people couldn't stand after they beat it the first time because they thought the bosses were to tanky. And the pale heart which is so broken anytime you what to do overthrow you get kicked to orbit before completion.

  • @archangelgabriel8493
    @archangelgabriel8493 16 годин тому

    Holy skybox, the moment i heard we was going back to the pyramid i knew we was in for a treat.

  • @dankerbell
    @dankerbell 9 годин тому

    i definitely think the scorn are the most annoying, it used to be taken but bungie added more scorn activities and their antics really started getting on my nerves, especially the sniper guys who take 1 damage and go immune for 50 seconds and then when they pop out they immediately go immune again

  • @stormdancer859
    @stormdancer859 17 годин тому +1

    OMG! Oogie Boogie is putting in a cameo in Destiny2! 🤣

  • @jinx3773
    @jinx3773 9 годин тому

    He's like some sort of puppet master.

  • @awesomeguy9513
    @awesomeguy9513 18 годин тому +1

    So the omen guy in the first mission had first reshaped or just reshaped in his name so either this guy is the first omen made by the witness and that’s why he so powerful or reshaped is the new dread group they have post witness.
    My guess for this big weaver boss might be trying to revive rhulk this is probably unlikely as his body was nuked, they could be after rhulks weapon or worm experiments, or they want the body of Xita the worm god mother

  • @Stanwize
    @Stanwize 8 годин тому +1

    The seasonal activity sucks so much arse. I'm just gonna go buy some more platinum

  • @BushiBrown
    @BushiBrown 10 годин тому

    Yall aren't ready for the grim shrieker to hit us with them waves that make us unable to use abilities

  • @fieryrangaking
    @fieryrangaking 11 годин тому

    Maybe horses are just the carriers of burden. For eg in the snapshot you paused there was a red and blue back meaning the herald of darkness and light. Not sure if there's extra meaning than just base symbolism though

  • @brandonporteriamyasuke1507
    @brandonporteriamyasuke1507 3 години тому

    If I'm not mistaken I seen the exotic weapon that comes out of here and all I can say is the mechanics of that thing really makes it seem like an exotic weapon. But the most annoying enemies in the game to me are the scorn and the taken those mofos can kick rocks.

  • @adriancosmincocioran8252
    @adriancosmincocioran8252 8 годин тому

    someone needs to send him an horse statue

  • @TheGerardo136
    @TheGerardo136 13 годин тому

    Something tells me bungie isn’t gonna fix microcosm by the time the dungeon drops. They know it’s the best weapon to deal with the dread/subjugators/tormentors. Good luck yall.

  • @TheNukedNacho
    @TheNukedNacho 9 годин тому

    Scorn are bad.
    But all the Grimm lately? Absolute headache. Shout out to Bungie for making something even more annoying than the Scorn
    4:50 Rhulk Brony confirmed

  • @nicklafave351
    @nicklafave351 18 годин тому +1

    Sword logic would have worked if bungie committed and brought back a different bad after every hive attempt

  • @Derbearian
    @Derbearian 16 годин тому +1

    Correct me if Im wrong but the Precursor species before they became the Witness were like natives and they rode horses right? I could be wrong.

  • @thatguyagainlolollolol1528
    @thatguyagainlolollolol1528 14 годин тому +1

    a reused location, cool

  • @MrGooseMan666
    @MrGooseMan666 17 годин тому

    3:25 right after he’s talking about going inside a work you walk through a rib cage and see another work I’m pretty sure that rib cage is is walking through a worm

  • @jynxx_b
    @jynxx_b 17 годин тому

    I’m happy with the psion being a boss especially if it’s taox as they’ve been a player throughout the lore recently… but I beg there’s a suprise waiting for us in the final boss

    • @ZachPlum
      @ZachPlum 15 годин тому

      Taox is Hive

    • @SirScrumply
      @SirScrumply 11 годин тому +1

      Taox is a Krill (Proto-Hive), not a psion

  • @dedbydwn6194
    @dedbydwn6194 12 годин тому +1

    Looking more and more like a mobile game.

  • @kidneystone1345
    @kidneystone1345 4 години тому

    hive dungeon 2: maybe we can rez Rhulk this time?

  • @T3mplar_Knight57
    @T3mplar_Knight57 17 годин тому +2

    THE GRIM!!!!!!!

  • @TheProStar91
    @TheProStar91 14 годин тому

    4:22 Man im so hungry i could eat one of those

  • @tre4062
    @tre4062 17 годин тому

    As a solo player since D1I've never done a single dungeon or raid but I watch the videos anyway😊

    • @223ndog
      @223ndog 17 годин тому +1

      That’s really sad. Dungeons and raids are the best parts of the game. What are you waiting for?

    • @tre4062
      @tre4062 16 годин тому

      @223ndog Friends?? 🤣

    • @cerebralassassin117
      @cerebralassassin117 11 годин тому +1

      For dungeons lfg it. Most dungeons you don't even need to talk.

    • @tre4062
      @tre4062 4 години тому

      @cerebralassassin117 Hell nah, people are stupid

  • @TrueSpartanGodGaming
    @TrueSpartanGodGaming Годину тому

    In destiny 3 I better be able to be a hive guardian cuz we’ve seen that other species can be guardians. I want different races in destiny 3 like a mmorpg does.

  • @seanrath6043
    @seanrath6043 16 годин тому +1

    Nokris probably the dungeon boss lol 😅😂

  • @stuartsherrill5151
    @stuartsherrill5151 4 години тому

    They are trying to unlock the secrets of the takin that oryx created.

  • @nokturn882
    @nokturn882 Годину тому

    How did she get control of the Dredd?

  • @BadMoodMoog
    @BadMoodMoog 17 годин тому +2

    Perhaps Rhulk is just hung like a horse

  • @vgernyc
    @vgernyc 13 годин тому

    We have to stop the Psion from bringing Marathon into the world

  • @rycuh
    @rycuh 14 годин тому

    0:45 very true

  • @skullknight4579
    @skullknight4579 2 години тому

    It's funny, we never found out the horse symbolism throughout all the pyramids

  • @lucasa4955
    @lucasa4955 17 годин тому

    When is the disabled list releasing?

  • @jasonkeely7269
    @jasonkeely7269 18 годин тому +1

    We all know why Rhulk likes horses....

    • @TheHaggis0451
      @TheHaggis0451 16 годин тому

      Mr Hands, first disciple of the Witness

  • @Steini1300
    @Steini1300 11 годин тому

    How long is Contest active 24h or 48h?

  • @traviszane5334
    @traviszane5334 8 годин тому

    It is going to be mostly dread and they disabled Microcosm. Don't even try to fix it before contest comes out.

  • @justincowgill8875
    @justincowgill8875 17 годин тому

    I hope they bring back the Worm god boss fight for the Dungeon.

  • @aaronjett6122
    @aaronjett6122 5 годин тому

    Cross you’ve got to drop the link to the original video

  • @nicktalbot6698
    @nicktalbot6698 15 годин тому

    Horses are a symbol of war in some cultures.

  • @pieceofgosa
    @pieceofgosa 16 годин тому

    question for the community: anyone managed to get a Fatebringer or Praedyth's to drop with the new Elemental Honing perk yet ? I've got the damage numbers for non-kinetic weapons but the perk states that kinetic weapons get more damage so I was just wondering how much more. In case anyone is interested, here's the damage numbers for non-kinetics: the perk stacks up to 5 times & lasts for 20secs, 1 stack is a 2.5% buff (which can self proc so it's free dmg), 2 stacks is 10%, 3 stacks is 20%, 4 stacks is 30% and 5 stacks is 35%

  • @TreeDad
    @TreeDad 13 годин тому

    surprised i haven't seen a vid about lord of wolves yet

  • @dablakeboy5877
    @dablakeboy5877 7 годин тому

    Guess ill be watching cross do the dungeon on my 27 hour flight this weekend
    Edit: ive also just realized, there is probably gonna be a jumping puzzle with grim sniping you😂 cross aint gonna have a good time

  • @shilljonnyshill
    @shilljonnyshill 15 годин тому +2

    bro tried so hard to find anything to talk about hahaha

  • @user-vo4od4qq7b
    @user-vo4od4qq7b 5 годин тому

    RHULK LIKES HORSES BECAUSE IT SIGNIFIES HE IS ONE OF THE HORSEMEN OF THE APOCOLYPSE.

  • @andrelefebvre8035
    @andrelefebvre8035 12 годин тому

    I found a worm on the DRedgonut

  • @CarlosRivera-zf3kk
    @CarlosRivera-zf3kk 8 годин тому

    I see cross doesn't have the love for this game like he used to. I don't blame him. Me too.

  • @benbutz4900
    @benbutz4900 15 годин тому

    if the boss is just another subjugator i don’t know if ill even bother. they’ve been played out. let me fight the worm mother

  • @jeremyalspaugh6843
    @jeremyalspaugh6843 11 годин тому

    Thinking about it if oryx was revived in ghost of the deep hed be furious bc of the sword logic implications

  • @pykeplayer4007
    @pykeplayer4007 41 хвилина тому

    Final boss taniks reshaped subjugator 💀

  • @andrelefebvre8035
    @andrelefebvre8035 12 годин тому

    Use crimson hand cannon rebuild your health back on small emenies

  • @undrgrndrecords
    @undrgrndrecords 5 годин тому

    5:33 - DEADP5ION

  • @OutlawLotus
    @OutlawLotus 15 годин тому

    50k Eggplantrs on the boss being Otzot.

  • @SoraRyuuKamii
    @SoraRyuuKamii 16 годин тому

    DJ Strand psion reminds me of the explicator of worlds encounter in RoN, maybe what that guy was actually supposed to be, instead of just a regular dude

    • @lazyvoid7107
      @lazyvoid7107 15 годин тому

      Did you know that Explicator was going to be a psion but got change fast.

  • @lmojol9673
    @lmojol9673 6 годин тому

    Grim and the subjugators are my least favorite enemies. I wish I could never fight them again.

  • @ZachPlum
    @ZachPlum 15 годин тому +1

    Why did bro have to spoil Warframe’s story in a destiny reaction

  • @traviabrown7341
    @traviabrown7341 14 годин тому

    I agree cross the grim have killed me more than the lil fallen toasters

  • @arthurchandler4770
    @arthurchandler4770 2 години тому

    The sword logic is just one giant idiotic circle. You kill to prove you should exist and if you die you prove you weren’t worth living. Yet oryx used necromancy to bring his sisters back. Dudes the biggest hypocrite of the sword logic there is.

  • @jsmirk807
    @jsmirk807 15 годин тому

    you could say this dungeon might be DREADful… no???
    ok i’ll stop 😭🤣

  • @starboy693
    @starboy693 18 годин тому

    Bro somehow didn’t find a way to make the video ten minutes. Congrats Cross 😂

    • @223ndog
      @223ndog 17 годин тому

      It only needs to be 8 minutes now.

  • @palefaced1
    @palefaced1 4 години тому

    The husk are the most annoying enemy in the game.