*Rarran explaining his reasoning as to why Evolve was the best pick for almost 5 minutes.* Voxy: You have a foot fetish dont you? I pick Footman for that exact reason. So unhinged, love it 😂
@@csarmii it is insane with skarr and skarr is a lot better legendary. In case you don't know how skarr works it deals 1 damage plus 1 to every enemy for every turn in a row you play an elemental. In Arena it is surprisingly not that hard to get it to deal 10+ damage which wipes the enemy board, puts a 7/7 on board, and deals 10 damage to your face likely putting you in lethal damage. Macaw just repeats that entire process for 3 mana and pretty much no one survives that 2 card combo making it very strong.
@Shadow-bk1im sure, and that would have been a better argument for it. I would still argue that a 5 mana 5/8 rush with taunt could still be more useful situationally. Its true that the 3/3 has a lot of synergy in the deck. But Rarran's specific argument about how it's so much better with Shudderwock is terrible and that was my point.
@@csarmii shudderwock in arena is actually pretty bad I have only ever seen it played once and the guy who played it had all the battlecries hit shudderwock and kill it. basically a 9 mana do nothing. The reason why shudderwock is bad is because there isn't that many good battlecries and the win condition is pretty eh.
It was so nice to meet you in person at MagicCon Amsterdam and thank you so much for being so kind to my wife. We love your work and MTG can really save lives!! ❤
at 23.:39 is when Voxy puts on the table the truest words someone could say about this lack of info in hearthstone cards! the game that was from the start a digital card game and should know better than to just like "you get this card, good luck knowing what this is! I know you spend money on this game but you will have to GOOGLE this card to learn what it does! *wink face* hihi"! VOXY SAYING LIKE IT IS!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH!
Just FYI you CAN right click on a card and see it's associated cards. But only from in your collection. You can't while editing a deck, or while in crafting menu, or while drafting in arena, or while in a match lol . Stupid that it's so restricted But it is possible.
the pick at 38:00 is one that's obvious if you know the interactions, but I think Voxy can be forgiven for not knowing that Shudderwock copies itself and it keeps enchantments from Wish Upon A Star.
Ah I'm 5 minutes in and Rarran has already been triggered into a 2 minute monologue. Oh Rarran, I think Daredevil has skin that is less sensitive than yours. But hey, we still love ya buddy. Though not as much as we love Voxy :p
I love raran but he is the worst coach I’ve ever seen. He spent the entire turn going “omg, omg, you’re cooked omg” instead of going, you’re probably in trouble, but here’s the two lines of play “Sand element, dunk tank trade everything optimally” or “you might want to dunk tank face and pray for more direct damage or a board wipe” Like my fucking dude. Your job is to coach her.
1:09:30 I'd say the logic is a bit off here. You shouldn't avoid using the coin just because you already have a card that fits your current mana amount. The value of the coin goes down as the game progresses. The earlier you use it, the better.
Light was called "Light Turner" in the horribleNetflix "adaptation" of Death Note, I think Rarran unconsciously then connected that name to Timmy Turner from Fairly Odd Parents
59:20 How do you feel about the new anit-cheat thing that LoL implemented? Kinda kicked me out of the game, because I am not giving a company that always ships bugs root-access xD
I’m actually so frustrated watching raaran coach. Like I’m literally begging you to explain your thoughts fast, tell her not to play before you’ve discussed options, and give her clear instructions/advice before the start of the rope.
Ok, I'm seeing what the problem was, now. Rarran is using played winrates to decide if a card is better than another card, but he's not doing the analysis work, he's just treating the raw data as a conclusion. Wish upon a Star's played winrate is going to be higher than the card's quality because you're not going to play it unless you have either a decent board or crazy good control options. Party animal is kinda the opposite effect, in that it's a commonly drafted 2 drop, meaning that if it didn't get played on two, it's more likely you missed your curve. Meaning if it comes down on two, you probably have your curve, improving the win rate for when that card is played.
Played winrate is biased in favor of alpha strike cards and biased against curve cards. The only stat that really matters for the purpose of which cards to draft is deck winrate. (obviously there are spots where you don't take the card with the highest deck winrate, but those spots are determined by local analysis, not by any *other* stat)
@@YMasterS You can ask any infinite arena specialist you want (dreads, judge, kolst, veritas etc). They will all tell you the same thing: stats are overrated and a lot of drafting choices should be done ignoring all of them, but the most important stat IS deck winrate.
@tudornaconecinii3609 you can't ask any of them and get that response because I'm giving you a different response, and I'm in that category. Besides, my points were about played winrate, not deck winrate.
Wait where is the MtG player? I just see two HS players
One Hs player and one Hs minion
Just because Voxy is dating wisdomball doesn't mean she knows the rest of the family.
Voxy has been trying hearthstone for the first time for almost a year now
I’m sorry but what’s Hs anyway?
*Rarran explaining his reasoning as to why Evolve was the best pick for almost 5 minutes.*
Voxy: You have a foot fetish dont you? I pick Footman for that exact reason.
So unhinged, love it 😂
The trolling voxy did when macaw came on screen was top tier
and i can't tell if rarran eats it up as a meme or if he's genuine either way its amazing.
She was not wrong. It's a 3 mana 3/3. If you have cast shudderwock, you've won already, otherwise repeating a single battle cry isn't a big deal.
@@csarmii it is insane with skarr and skarr is a lot better legendary. In case you don't know how skarr works it deals 1 damage plus 1 to every enemy for every turn in a row you play an elemental. In Arena it is surprisingly not that hard to get it to deal 10+ damage which wipes the enemy board, puts a 7/7 on board, and deals 10 damage to your face likely putting you in lethal damage. Macaw just repeats that entire process for 3 mana and pretty much no one survives that 2 card combo making it very strong.
@Shadow-bk1im sure, and that would have been a better argument for it. I would still argue that a 5 mana 5/8 rush with taunt could still be more useful situationally. Its true that the 3/3 has a lot of synergy in the deck. But Rarran's specific argument about how it's so much better with Shudderwock is terrible and that was my point.
@@csarmii shudderwock in arena is actually pretty bad I have only ever seen it played once and the guy who played it had all the battlecries hit shudderwock and kill it. basically a 9 mana do nothing. The reason why shudderwock is bad is because there isn't that many good battlecries and the win condition is pretty eh.
OMG, Rarran is such a good teacher! He can literally explain HS stuff to a weasel!
yup its crazy, especially considering he isn't even good at the game but LOCKS IN when he's teaching
"Do you let everything get to you?" says the weasel
It’s impossible for me to not smile and laugh whenever I see Voxy and Rarran making gold content 💛
Voxy Rarren content. We're so back!
Rarran being a badger is 100% accurate. Had the same exact thought
a badger with a little hat
The Macaw troll, I’m dying 😂
Wow Rarran is so patient and nice even while being trolled half the time. Top tier content and watched every minute, literal perfect duo.
The chemistry is crazy!!! These are so fun to watch
I love that they genuinely have like a brother and sister relationship
oh yay they play the game after together too, I always get disappointed when it's only draft duo and not the games
My two favorite Hearthstone streamer are collabing again, that's so cool
always love to see my favourite hearthstone streamer collab with Ramranch
That smile from Voxy for Macaw lmaoooo
It was so nice to meet you in person at MagicCon Amsterdam and thank you so much for being so kind to my wife. We love your work and MTG can really save lives!! ❤
I watched this live, this title should be "MTG player gives Hearthstone player Angina."
It's like Voxy is his long lost little sister and it's amazing
I love the Voxy & Rarren podcast
Getting coached by rarran in arena is like a pro league of legends player getting coached by a pokemon unite player
Voxy telling Rarren it’s okay to like feet. 😂
43:09 that glance and the trolling afterwards... Peak, absolute peak
Them making fun of each other back and forth is why I love these videos. You two are both amazing and funny!
Fucking love all the MTG players making HS content. Truly a renaissance
This is such great wholesome content. it's like watching mom and dad play games together
holy shit rarran started by asking how voxy is, the growth is beautiful🥺
Voxy + Rarran is always so good
Timothy Yagami, my favorite Death Note character
Knuckles is also good because battlecries usually have weaker bodies and you can transform them into much stronger things
God those last games were brutal rip 🪦
"We're cooked. We lost. There's nothing we can do."
Gets angry at chat for calling him out.
"We did everything we could!"
Genuinely, Voxy is one of the funniest people I know on the Internet. Thank you for existing! :D
Voxy decided to play in face up attack position from the get go hahaha
Watching this on stream was so fun Voxy, you played really well against those last two crazy decks, I’m sure you’ll get 12 wins soon
Badger is so perfect for Rarran, nailed it 👌
Voxy talking about Feet more than anyone just telling on herself.
Voxy, you rarran and frostprime playing games like League together would be the BEST CONTENT PLEASE DO IT PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
this is the the good stuff voxy - keep doing HS arena stuff :)
Chill and funny run dearest weasel.
Vooooooooo we baaaaaaaaaack slop for the yt frogs
We're so back.
Weasel and racoon debating arena strategies 😂
Voxy is such an amazing troll. XD
My former best friend have this girl actitud it's so fun to have someone like this hahaha
These two are so much fun !!!
Copium hitting a little too on target!
at 23.:39 is when Voxy puts on the table the truest words someone could say about this lack of info in hearthstone cards! the game that was from the start a digital card game and should know better than to just like "you get this card, good luck knowing what this is! I know you spend money on this game but you will have to GOOGLE this card to learn what it does! *wink face* hihi"! VOXY SAYING LIKE IT IS!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH!
Just FYI you CAN right click on a card and see it's associated cards. But only from in your collection. You can't while editing a deck, or while in crafting menu, or while drafting in arena, or while in a match lol . Stupid that it's so restricted But it is possible.
the pick at 38:00 is one that's obvious if you know the interactions, but I think Voxy can be forgiven for not knowing that Shudderwock copies itself and it keeps enchantments from Wish Upon A Star.
haven't seen the rest of the video yet. The opening is fire though.
Rarran is totally a Badger
Racoon ❤😂
I get this kind of opponents in arena always too.
i think rarran might be a panda
I love the rarran x voxy content
that was great content!
SO this is the revenge for the 3 Squees you had to sign and possibly some Gronds?
randomly picking cards is a better bet than having rarran coach
He said how are you. LFG
Gooooo weasel girl!!!
Rarran is definitely a badger.
ah yes, finally some fucking hearthstone content
The weasel is at it again!
Ah I'm 5 minutes in and Rarran has already been triggered into a 2 minute monologue. Oh Rarran, I think Daredevil has skin that is less sensitive than yours. But hey, we still love ya buddy.
Though not as much as we love Voxy :p
I love raran but he is the worst coach I’ve ever seen.
He spent the entire turn going “omg, omg, you’re cooked omg” instead of going, you’re probably in trouble, but here’s the two lines of play “Sand element, dunk tank trade everything optimally” or “you might want to dunk tank face and pray for more direct damage or a board wipe”
Like my fucking dude. Your job is to coach her.
waiting on the next naruto update 👀
Funny personalities, toxic chat
What I learned from watching this and a lot of ADWCTA back in the day is that Rarran is awful at explaining plays. 😂
1:04:42 That's too funny. I was literally thinking badger before you said that.
I stopped playing Arena as soon as i hit 12 wins too. Too much stress.
The weasel plays arena!!!
Containment unit is SO strong in arena wtf.
Hell ya Rarran finally paid to get 12 wins on his account , about damn time dude games been out 12 years .
2 wins in this arena meta is about right
Voxy got that Relentless ass
Do you not want to only have the 9 drop as overload so it's a guaranteed draw? woulda gone kj
I think the stats overly is mandatory
I'm listening to this at work and when she was guessing what his fursona would be I *also* chose badger before she called it 😂
Rarran giving advice on Arena is dangerous.
went 12 and 0 once. 12 wins was pretty easy for the most part.
Honestly i think corrupt the waters is better than Shudderwock, and it's not even close
Draft ends around 1:07:00
why would i put my cards in a vacuum?!?
1:09:30 I'd say the logic is a bit off here. You shouldn't avoid using the coin just because you already have a card that fits your current mana amount. The value of the coin goes down as the game progresses. The earlier you use it, the better.
I'm confused wheres the MTG player?
I don’t understand how you become that pretty just wow ❤❤❤❤❤❤
uh what is 12 wins? and how is arena different from standard?
you two are a fckin RIOT i swear XD
I don’t think you pressured rarran enough to be better
Light was called "Light Turner" in the horribleNetflix "adaptation" of Death Note, I think Rarran unconsciously then connected that name to Timmy Turner from Fairly Odd Parents
8:47 Huh?
Why is Voxy Orange?
N’Zoth is like twice as good as Shudderwock. What a disaster of a start. I wouldn’t have it any other way.
Voxy, how are you so gorgeous?
59:20 How do you feel about the new anit-cheat thing that LoL implemented? Kinda kicked me out of the game, because I am not giving a company that always ships bugs root-access xD
"What do you want? Are we having fun or do you want to win video games?" Is probably the saddest question I ever heard Rarran ask.
I fell in love.....😅
I’m actually so frustrated watching raaran coach.
Like I’m literally begging you to explain your thoughts fast, tell her not to play before you’ve discussed options, and give her clear instructions/advice before the start of the rope.
Rarran is terrible at arena, so this should be interesting.
Ok, I'm seeing what the problem was, now. Rarran is using played winrates to decide if a card is better than another card, but he's not doing the analysis work, he's just treating the raw data as a conclusion.
Wish upon a Star's played winrate is going to be higher than the card's quality because you're not going to play it unless you have either a decent board or crazy good control options.
Party animal is kinda the opposite effect, in that it's a commonly drafted 2 drop, meaning that if it didn't get played on two, it's more likely you missed your curve. Meaning if it comes down on two, you probably have your curve, improving the win rate for when that card is played.
Played winrate is biased in favor of alpha strike cards and biased against curve cards. The only stat that really matters for the purpose of which cards to draft is deck winrate. (obviously there are spots where you don't take the card with the highest deck winrate, but those spots are determined by local analysis, not by any *other* stat)
@tudornaconecinii3609 that's bad analysis. You've identified a trend and decided It's a rule. That's no different to purely going by played winrate.
@@YMasterS You can ask any infinite arena specialist you want (dreads, judge, kolst, veritas etc). They will all tell you the same thing: stats are overrated and a lot of drafting choices should be done ignoring all of them, but the most important stat IS deck winrate.
@tudornaconecinii3609 you can't ask any of them and get that response because I'm giving you a different response, and I'm in that category.
Besides, my points were about played winrate, not deck winrate.