3:51 cat 1 appears 5:47 cat 1 lies down 36:26 cat 1 wakes up, shifts position 43:01 cat 2 appears 45:35 rarran pets cat 54:38 cat 1 yawns 1:20:46 cat 2 little paws 1:27:31 more rarran pets cat 1:28:34 “jin get-his-ass” 1:34:54 cat cam time! You guys have no clue how much the cats (and the mentioning of) added to the experience. Always enjoy the history lessons! (though I always get a lot of the guesses wrong despite having heard of those cards) Happy to see Rarran getting hooked on discount bald machine Charizard (Shahrazad…wait that spelling does sound like charizard) , this was my first time seeing the card too and I’m absolutely blown away…+4 loyalty??? though doesn’t that make the most recent Karn really disappointing then >:(
I'm a returning player (on Arena, for the first time) and I got the exact opposite experience from a lot of these videos. I played through Zendikar and and Mirrodin Reforged (is that the right name?), stopping a little into the meta just before this tournament before my LGS closed and life just made it so playing wasn't an option. Though I did regularly check out new sets for a while. But I did play Hearthstone for a few years because it was just cheaper and convenient. Now I'm constantly learning new cards and decks in the current standard as I play them for the first time and usually make horrible plays without an idea of what's coming next. It's really cool to see the newer sets and ideas in them, and I do actually enjoy the lack of blocks now. It keeps a lot more of a diverse card pool, and it's nice that they can make something like OTJ without squeezing out 2-3 sets with those themes and lots of relatively similar mechanics. And the recent changes to lore, the legendary mechanic being better (they used to mostly be high-cost cards with very niche or win-more effects), and just a lot of diverse decks. I just REALLY wish I got to play one of the newer Ravnica sets. That was my very first set when the original came out, and the setting and mechanics have always been a favorite. I was awful and never won a Bo3 during my stunt then, as I was really young with little guidance, constantly looking at the game through the lens of someone who only played things like Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh, but I'd kill to be able to play Selesnya tokens again.
This series needs to be more than once a month on both channels, it's absolute peak content, I was psyched when I saw Rarran's latest episode because I knew this one was coming, release every 2 weeks please it's amazing.
idk how familiar he is with the concept of planeswalker, or if they went over it and he just forgot but during the assessment there's no mention on how many ways you can remove a planeswalker
It’s been a long time since I’ve played, but I thought it was black. Or was black to most consistently good color… idk. I would always guess blue or black. With white and green being the worst depending on the timeframes
just look at the prices of dual lands and the ones with blue mana are ridiculous expensive. I find it more interesting what would be #2. I'd say black or white.
@@fzoid3534 brother white isn't part do the Convo. I'd say green is 2nd now closely ahead of black, because being ahead in mana and the firepower of green is ridiculously strong. If we're talking about commander green is easily better than black, might be better than blue even even tho it's unlikely
The seance story has more bits to it. In the past few years, a listing on one of the personal sales sites for a collection of like, 10,000 seances. The youtuber 8thPlaceDave bought it. It apparently wasn't from the original guy, but could be related.
The reason that no one actually ended up taking up the mantle to run Seance at the Pro Tour was that Wizards made it clear that if any one took the poster up on their offer they would get banned from the PT.
I love how so many people end up with that. Even "Jin-Gitaxias" is a bastardization of his actual name, and we keep doing it more and more humiliatingly
I forget who it was (maybe Ben Stark?) who joked that Kibler would show up to their testing house, find out what the rest of the team had come up with as the control deck of the format, and then build a deck that could beat that :'D
For any hearthstone players/newer Magic players: a specific use case for Liliana is against hexproof creatures like Invisible Stalker. You can't target the Stalker, but you can target the opponent and make them sacrifice the Stalker. I found that out the hard way being on the receiving end of a Liliana at a modern night as a Bogles player.
Rarran reading the only Titan I’ve never seen before and thinking it’s better than Commander All-Star Sun Titan is incredible. Love the content, keep it up baby!
@@adamcimrmann Eventually, He see's Sun Titan which is almost a staple and calls a card most people haven't seen before "infinitely better." That moment is hilarious.
Yeah that was hilarious. Get his ass. The only memory I have of jin-githisass was playing a game of commander where Jin was someone elses general and they got him out on like turn 4. I played reliquary tower, which means you have infinite hand size. This person tried so, so hard to kill or get rid of my reliquary tower and I kept saying no in various ways.
What's fun about the Titans is that they've all seen at least moderate play in different formats, and even Frost Titan saw play( though that was largely because he just beat the other Titans by locking them down)
well you only need to fetch 2 really, after that the mountains do the job. I used to play a modern deck that would Through the Breech either a Prime time or Emrakul on turn 3, either was an instant win.
@@BlackDragonStudios1 My favourite ever Match of magic was at GP Birmingham when after T3 winning G1 against a Control deck. I boarded in 4 Summoning Traps and he Spell Snared my Lotus Cobra on T2 and I flipped an Emrakul, he scooped. 2-0 in 5 turns total
A friend of mine quit Modern for years because of this (or more specifically, because of Scapeshift -- same concept). He would angrily declare it to be "time traveling mountain" nonsense because the ruling was that even though all of the mountains AND Valakut are entering play at the same time, Valakut "sees" them all as already in play and each one triggers the Bolt effect. Imagine playing someone with some amount of forests and other lands in play just for them to Scapeshift everything away and grab Valakut + 6 mountains/Stomping Grounds just to get dinged for 18 damage and probably lose because you made the mistake of playing an untapped Shock Land.
Man this got me really nostalgic. Back during New Phyrexia, I played a UB heavy control deck that used Karn, Lilliana Vess, and Jace Beleren. It may have just been in my little comic store, but that deck carried me harder than I deserved and there was absolutely nothing more satisfying as getting all three on the board at once and watching my opponent slowly lose any semblance of agency for the rest of the match. And yeah, Karn's ultimate might as well say "You win the game", because that is absolutely how that plays out every time it goes off.
I think "Best Color in Magic" is a very contextual question. Looking at Legacy, Vintage, and CEDH, Blue is the best overall historic color. I think in lower power environments, the best colors are often, in some order, Blue, Green, and Black. There is an argument that Green is the best color in non-competitive Commander, and I think if you were to take any random set from Magic's history, your most consistently good color is probably Black.
Yeah, in general, I would say that the most consistently good color tends to be black in limited, green in standard, and blue in non-rotating formats. Edit: For clarity, I just mean that if you know nothing else about a format, these tend to be safe bets.
@@minabasejderha5972 Although, if you were to ask "what has historically been the best color to play alone", the answer would probably be that Mono-Red has historically had many viable options in a variety of formats, and you don't often see other mono-color decks in competitive formats. I would also hazard a guess that Red is the weakest overall color throughout Magic's history, except for a few combo pieces and Lightning Bolt.
Oof, I think you're way off here actually. Blue is obviously the best colour because all the coolest, most attractive, smartest, sexiest mages play it. But otherwise, bias aside, I'm surprised you didn't say Red tbh, I'd say it is BY FAR the most popular colour in Standard bo1, which, is BY FAR the most popular format in magic, and I'm not being sarcastic when I say that. People think Commander is the most popular format because it's what gets played in paper, but the number of games played on Arena absolutely dwarfs the number of games played in paper (I remember WOTC releasing a stat a while ago saying that more games get played on Arena each month than games have been played in paper in the history of Magic (i.e. each month of Arena is more than 30 years of paper magic in terms of numbers of games played). Even if they are just talking about Standard it would still be assumed that it would far far far trump commander in terms of games played. And with it being the most popular format by such a large margin, whatever is played in it most is the most popular colour overall. And anyone who plays bo1 on Arena knows that mono red, or occasionally boros, is a perpetual format mainstay and is perpetually one of, if not the, most popular deck at any given time (at least that has been the case for the last few years). So while Blue is the sexiest colour, and green is often considered the best colour for commander, I think Red is objectively the most played colour.
@@moocowp4970 Yeah man, let's compare a free to play digital client to real world paper games. "STANDARD B01 IS MOST POPULAR" kek This is so skewed it's not even funny. Yeah, alone sitting at their home of course people are gonna play bo1, it's the fastest way to grind out your dailies. What do people play the most when they're with their friends? Commander is by far the most popular here.
No hesitation from Mesa Falcon Guy whatsoever: Blue is the undeniably best colour in Magic History. Ancestral Recall, Time Walk, Timetwister, really says it all. Pick any given time period and you've probably got a debate, but across all time it's 100% Blue.
Arguably, black has more busted cards than blue. Dark Ritual, Necropotence, Ad Nauseum, Demonic Tutor/Vampiric Tutor/Imperial Seal, Liliana of the Veil, both of the main pieces that enable Thassa's Oracle, cheap reanimation, repeat drain effects, hand hate, edicts. Blue is a very close contender, but I don't think it'd be nearly as relevant as it is without endless counterspells. Black just does too much, and often while cheapening its costs using life.
I don't think this is true. It started as the best color by far, but they quickly rebalanced and black was the strongest throughout MtG's earliest expansions. And in a macro sense, creatures have gotten better over time and I think most people would agree green has most often been the strongest color in the last ~20 years, which arguably puts it in the running for strongest color in history even if, when you put all the cards ever printed together, you wouldn't play that many green ones.
@@OMGclueless Green? Absolutely not. It's definitely had a few spots in the light, but unless it's either Prime Time or some combo, or a splash, it's just not that strong. Black is definitely way stronger as a singular color with blue coming in second.
@@tonysmith9905 It is a perennial powerhouse in standard, and has easily been the best color in the most popular format in MtG for its entire lifespan (Commander). As to why, I would say that there are two fundamental resources in Magic, cards and mana, and green is the best color at enabling the latter. It so happens that in eternal formats, fixing is trivial in all colors due to fetches + duals, and there are enough hyper-efficient spells that it's less common to want to invest heavily in producing mana. So if you look at eternal formats you find a pretty strong bias against green, but eternal formats are not the way most people play MtG.
@@OMGclueless Green hasn't been relevant in Standard in a very long time. Last 3 to 4 years black has been the single strongest color with blue right behind. Esper dominated the meta game for a long time in tournament, as did rakdos. Green has one deck where you'd say the color was actually important and that's the Nissa deck with Analyst, but that wasn't even in the OTJ pro tour. The last two times green was a powerhouse in standard was when Simic Tempo was a thing and Prime Time wolf run. Before that? Maybe Tooth and Nail after affinity was nerfed, I remember hearing about it being strong but it was before my time so Idk. And since Mirrodin marked the modern change of power creep I can't possibly see green being good before then as the important, game winning color in a deck. Perhaps with Oath of Druids or Natural order, but any thing back in those days can't reasonably see any thing else. Green has two meta decks in pioneer. Modern has a total of 3 decks where green is actually an important color in the deck. Legacy green is much more represented but only by like 2 maybe 3 more decks. It's still not a hugely ran color. Vintage surprising has a few more green decks as well, but mostly as ramp and Force of Vigor. The only one where green is a huge color is the Oath of Druids deck. But please, if you can tell me some thing I missed I'd love to hear it.
Wow what a fun blast from the past! I started playing with M12 and Primeval Titan was my green-based midrange origin story. This really was a fantastic Standard format. Also I would agree that blue is the best color over Magic's history - I've heard people joke that Island is the best card in the game.
Jinny G already being a channel meme following "The Incident" and now being names Jin Getyourass is just so perfect. You need to get Rarran on Worst Possible and getting all your asses.
32:00 "thalia over the years that follow has probably been a more impactful card" I'm impressed, that's a very good understanding of the power of the card after he just learned that thalia didn't make the top 8 at that time.
I started playing MTG on the day that Dark Ascension released. It was just a coincidence, I had no idea that the set was brand new. Watching the match between Finkel and Kibler was what made me fall in love with Magic!
This video really brings me back. I started playing Magic with my friends around this time, so I recognize a lot of these cards from the events we went to. I haven’t played in years, but I still got my Delver and my werewolves stored around somewhere. Good times.
I just wanna point out that when Rarran asked if CGB knew what an Alien was he brought up "Alien vs Predator" instead of one of the actual Alien movies 1:28:59
I think it really requires some numbers to grasp a concept like Primeval Titan. I would have explained with something like, "There are around 500-700 cards in MTG that can search for basic lands. Of those, there are fewer than 50 cards that allow you to search for any land, including non-basic lands, and of those, only around 10-15 cards can put the land directly onto the battlefield. Of those 10-15 cards that let you search for any land, only about 3-4 can search multiple times over multiple turns, and Primeval Titan stands out as the absolute most powerful of all, allowing you to repeatedly trigger over multiple turns, as long as you can keep it alive and attacking. Similarly, only a few cards like Hour of Promise and Scapeshift allow you to fetch two non-basic lands at once, and those are generally one-time effects.". This explanation really gives a sense of the power of a card like Primeval Titan, even beyond how it was used in the specific format/rotation being referenced.
It's a little bit rude to read this, mono greeen commanders love Nyxbloom ancient (it's also sometimes played in historic brawl) and the card price value is kinda worth, you should check it. If he were unplayable, he would worth 0,50 cts, but he's worth 15 dollars
Rarran trying to explain vigilance made me laugh, because he basically gave the description Gavin used recently to explain why they started giving Vigilance to blue creatures.
Not that I know what the seance deck was but, i do remember stumbling upon the seance + populate keyword. Since the seance doesnt make token have "get rid of at end of turn," you could copy the token forever. VERY fun copy to figure out during a FNM.
I absolutely loved this set, my first top 8 of a SCG event, playing my own brew. Merica control, urw splashing a tiny bit of black because it was a reanimation deck. Faithless looting unburial rights, elesh norn sun titan and images
Onslaught block brought me back into MTG, but it was the Delver vs Wolf Run Ramp matchup that brought me back into competitive magic. So many interesting games.
PSA-10 cards are pretty rare in general. Even "Pack Mint" cards usually will get 9.5. So even a "Gem Mint" card that's normally 50 cents could be $50 or more. PSA Rating a card definitely multiplies the price of something by a good bit. Like CGB said: The "Slab" must be worth it to some people. Meaning just the PSA case, label, and prestige of seeing "Gem Mint" on your card has value to some collectors.
Nah, this is just wrong. In a lot of cases getting some random card PSA graded (even at a 10) just makes it basically unsellable. Grading a card that's not genuinely expensive and collectible either adds nothing or reduces cost. You'll see ones like this posted for sale, but they'll almost never sell. Once in a blue moon you might randomly find someone who just specifically wants that specific card, but that's not really an actual rating of the cards genuine value. Don't get your random cards graded. Slab isn't worth shit, grading isn't worth shit.
The semifinals really were a classic of all time. Shocking ending, and I loved that we got to see the promise of the werewolf mechanic really pay off and take the center stage.
Idea for a type of video. Ranking characters through the years. Get every version of a character like jace and get your guest to figure out how good they were. It would offer a really cool way to show how magic has changed over the years.
What makes the pooping imagery even worse on the titans is that the flavor text for Primeval is "When nature calls, run." They knew what they were doing.
On Inferno Titan, the reason it was the 2nd most played was entirely that Primeval Titan was the first. It was played because it was an extra fatty in the colors of the Primeval Titan deck and not off its own merits. You wanted more than 4 titans and you're already red for the Kessig Wolf Run, so you run the on color titan. In raw, power level it's 4th behind Grave Titan at 2nd and Sun Titan at 3rd but it was just the right color for the titan deck.
Boomer talk: this set got me back into magic from when i was a really young kid and i fell in love with Wolf Run Ramp. no joke, i still have the deck sleeved up today in my dresser. Prime time in gruul was a beast, i loved playing in FNM (bringing it back) with it and everyone was blown away by how fast and over the top prime time took it. great memories
I could do a whole set of Rarran judging various cycles. Cycles have some intrinsic interest simply because of their similarities, so the comparison between them is pretty fun.
I think it could be a cool thing for Rarran to see some of the insane decks instead of just cards. The question could be "how long until bans killed this deck". 12 Post would blow his mind
Not enough people play Vintage and Legacy, because there's decks that are just bananas in what they do. Shops when Trinisphere was unrestricted? Four Horsemen in Legacy? _The_ Deck is still being played 30 years later the same way it was in Arabian Nights, except it has some more efficient removal and uses bears instead of Serra Angel because it takes over that hard? WHAT DO YOU MEAN NAMING YOUR DECK "LANDS" AND YOUR OTHER DECK "NO LAND BELCHER?"
Show him lantern control and see how long it takes him to go insane trying to understand it. The deck barely makes sense from a magic perspective, for a hearthstone playing it would look psychotic
@@RedAequus Yeah, that deck...a lot of people hate that deck because it is literally jace, the mindsculptor's +2 turned into a deck. If JTMS hadn't been printed with that fateseal ability I would not be surprised if that deck didn't exist at all right now and lantern of insight would still be in bulk bins everywhere. It's also crazy that lantern's only reprinting since fifth dawn is in the list.
I just wanted to let the hearthstone players and rarran (even tho he prolly wont see this) know that he was correct on the idea when talking about inferno titan- if you shoot a thing down *while* it is blocking, your damage wont go through unless it has trample. However, as CGB said, attack triggers are done before the declare blockers phase so that wont happen in this case. As a Legends of Runeterra player, this is a very interesting interaction thats used a ton- because attacks happen and then declaring blocks happen, but all things put on the stack during combat do not resolve until after the blocks are declared, even if you played them first. (Resolving just before the combat damage/strikes) You often see people do a chump block and then sac their creature with a spell, or you block with a creature thats about to be shot anyway, or you challenge (keyword that lets you chose who blocks it) a creature thats about to be removed from combat by a creature with trample so it goes through unblocked.
The thing about PSA 10 is that you can open a fresh pack that was stored in an official box, mint as anything, behind glass, pull the card, put it straight into a secure spot with latex gloves on... And chances are due to factory defects, packaging and shipping damage, etc., through no fault of your own - it won't wind up at PSA 10. Getting a PSA 10 is a roulette and prestige all on its own because of that roulette.
I net decked and played a Seance deck on MtGO after seing a bunch of people 4-0'ing with it in daily events. I don't remember exactly the deck list but I remember there was a creature combo you tore through your deck to find by chaining a creature that lets you Fact or Fiction on ETB. It even had Misthollow Griffin in the sideboard as a tech against Rest In Peace. 😂 The deck was wild, but tons of fun to play.
Honestly, even as someone with a lot of MTG history, Rarran matched my guesses 100% for the 5 Titans. I figured Grave Titan was just good enough and thus would've been the most played, Sun would be a weird conditional 3-2 or 4-1 maybe sideboard, Primeval would just be like that one guy, Inferno and Flood just weak unplayable trash.
This was a nostalgic video for me. I started playing at the end of Mirrodin, so Innistrad block was when I started getting serious. A foil Champion of the Parish was the first single I ever bought and I still play it in a human EDH deck.
The fact that one of the best blue white control players chooses to embrace the Mesa Falcons in his first deck is such a great example that MTG has an actual learning curve. If you struggle rn, keep trying, you will get better.
After years of watching your videos and you regularly ask the editor for something that inevitably didn't get done, it's so cool that you have an editor now who actually makes the things you ask for happen on-screen! Great job!
About the "best color": it depends on how you phrase the question, but I'd say it's either blue or black, and if i had to pick one it's probably blue. To answer that question we have to look at the older, most powerful formats like legacy and vintage, and blue is the most represented color by far with how incredibly strong efficient card draw and effects like Force of Will are. Meanwhile black is less omnipresent but probably has the most cards that could be considered broken and that are banned or restricted in some cases, like DarkRit, Necropotence, DemoTutor, Yawg'sWill and similar. So I'd say that it's definitely one of these two.
I’ve always heard blue is the best overall and black is the best at being consistently good. But I might be biased as blue black is my favourite dual colour tied with black white. And WUB being my three coloured go to. Not a fan of Red, it’s not bad by any means but my brain doesn’t like its play style
@@j00d72 I mean is standard and younger forms that's true, but historically other colors just have stronger cards. You can't really play red aggro in legacy or vintage (only exception would be legacy red prison I guess)
The real big problem with Seance is that you get a mob for one turn, so on the opponent's turn it can block, and that's it. If it gave haste you could also attack with it, which would make it playable to be able to fully reuse every major creature you lost or sacrificed. It would have been busted with the Titans, tho, giving an instant double activation of their ability every time, and that perhaps is what made WotC choose not to let it give attacks since they were such a big part of that format at the time. But while Comes into Play effects are fun, they aren't be-all end-all and if that's all you're getting, you're using creatures basically as overpriced spells you get to use twice.
As to the color question from Rarran, I'd say that the 'best' color is either blue or black, as someone who loves me some green stompy stuff. As our resident Mesa Falcon guy pointed out, blue is the card draw and extra turn color, along with the color that tells your opponents that they can't play the game without your permission. On the other hand though, black does everything, but in a cheat-y, roundabout way. It doesn't counter your spells, just forces you to discard. It doesn't ramp out mana sources, it has sacrifice engines and spells to give a temporary boost. Everything has a downside, but it does nearly everything but not as well as the other colors. Probably the best color to splash.
To answer Rarran's question of which color in Magic is the all time best, honestly you'll find defenders of all colors but White wanting to come for this title (Even fans of White know that it has the rockiest history of all of the colors). I agree with CGB's assessment of Blue considering 3 of the 9 cards in the Power 9, the only three that weren't colorless were all Blue (On top of being the color of card draw and extra turns and whatnot). However, I would like to throw in there that there is a difference between "the best color in Magic by itself," and "the best color in Magic overall," because I am of the opinion that Black is actually the best/strongest color in Magic, BUT with the caveat that this mainly true when Black is paired up with at least 1 other color. Mono-Black can suffer from shooting itself in the foot too much sometimes with its strategies, but when paired with another color it can offset that with whatever the other color brings to basically fill in the self inflicted bullet holes in its foot. Basically Black can act as a turbo boost charge for the other 4 colors to enhance and spike up their gameplay, but without the other colors as a "base fuel" it could end up destroying its own engine.
@@JohnFromAccounting As a singular color sure. It's probably the absolute best support color since it does so much just not very good at any thing other than making lots of dudes or gaining life hah.
Well when it comes to best colour it’s kind of interesting because it depends on if you are just referring to single colour, or including the colour playing a role in a multicolour deck. Because if you’re talking single colour the answer is red with the most wins of world championship formats compared to any other deck type.
These are some of my favorite content styles you guys do. I’ve rediscovered hearthstone and do battle grounds with my wife.(She is now obsessed and I have a hard time finding time to play mtg now lol)
I think a large part of what makes Primeval Titan good that rarran wasn't considering as an HS player is that tutoring lands out of your deck- beyond just ramping or pulling lands with effects- thins out dead draws. When you get to 6+ mana, you wanna draw things to play with your mana, but you still have a ton of lands that you can brick into. HS has more draw in general, and also, every draw is a playable card rather than mana.
I'll definitely be the one to correct you about green being dominant, because R/G Valakut was brutal to play against until people realized that Jace was the best card in the format.
My pick for the color you want the most in your deck throughout history is red. Bolt, stone rain, kiki jiki, underworld breach, ragavan, expressive iteration. Jund and/or Izzet decks have been high in the meta game for the majority of the history of the game. It's rarely the color of the big splashy playmakers, but it's always there as a solid option that can compete. But that's just vibes, id be interested to see the breakdown across all competitive play. Maybe black would clinch it with Doomsday and Bolas' Citadel from vintage tournaments, depending on how you weight the results.
Agreed. Most of the time of MtG since the players figured out how to curve out, red has been viable. It's rarely the best, but it's the tempo check for most formats.
I love being called a Mesa Falcon. It just gives me a cozy feeling.
Cringe
@@Lordidude well someone's getting kicked out of the mesa falcon club.
Nah i love it too fam ignore the h8rs
@@Alaric11 That's fine. Since I'm over the age of acceptance (8) that is fine.
@@Lordidude Wow, you just turned 9? I'm so proud of you little man. Keep it up.
Don't forget that the flavor text on Primeval Titan really works with the idea that he is squatting in the woods.
Fuck, I had to look up the card again, because I did not pay attention to the flavour text.
That is absolutely magnificent
Works with the effect too since its shitting out more forests onto the board.
When Nature calls, Run.
3:51 cat 1 appears
5:47 cat 1 lies down
36:26 cat 1 wakes up, shifts position
43:01 cat 2 appears
45:35 rarran pets cat
54:38 cat 1 yawns
1:20:46 cat 2 little paws
1:27:31 more rarran pets cat
1:28:34 “jin get-his-ass”
1:34:54 cat cam time!
You guys have no clue how much the cats (and the mentioning of) added to the experience. Always enjoy the history lessons! (though I always get a lot of the guesses wrong despite having heard of those cards)
Happy to see Rarran getting hooked on discount bald machine Charizard (Shahrazad…wait that spelling does sound like charizard) , this was my first time seeing the card too and I’m absolutely blown away…+4 loyalty??? though doesn’t that make the most recent Karn really disappointing then >:(
Thanks for the cat watching!
You're doing God's work out here.
Thank you for the timestamps! got extra content out of the content !
Yeah... They talk mtg i just watch the cat
I'm a returning player (on Arena, for the first time) and I got the exact opposite experience from a lot of these videos.
I played through Zendikar and and Mirrodin Reforged (is that the right name?), stopping a little into the meta just before this tournament before my LGS closed and life just made it so playing wasn't an option. Though I did regularly check out new sets for a while. But I did play Hearthstone for a few years because it was just cheaper and convenient.
Now I'm constantly learning new cards and decks in the current standard as I play them for the first time and usually make horrible plays without an idea of what's coming next.
It's really cool to see the newer sets and ideas in them, and I do actually enjoy the lack of blocks now. It keeps a lot more of a diverse card pool, and it's nice that they can make something like OTJ without squeezing out 2-3 sets with those themes and lots of relatively similar mechanics. And the recent changes to lore, the legendary mechanic being better (they used to mostly be high-cost cards with very niche or win-more effects), and just a lot of diverse decks.
I just REALLY wish I got to play one of the newer Ravnica sets. That was my very first set when the original came out, and the setting and mechanics have always been a favorite. I was awful and never won a Bo3 during my stunt then, as I was really young with little guidance, constantly looking at the game through the lens of someone who only played things like Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh, but I'd kill to be able to play Selesnya tokens again.
This series needs to be more than once a month on both channels, it's absolute peak content, I was psyched when I saw Rarran's latest episode because I knew this one was coming, release every 2 weeks please it's amazing.
I love how Rarran immediately fell into the new player trap of evaluating Planeswalkers based on their ultimate.
idk how familiar he is with the concept of planeswalker, or if they went over it and he just forgot but during the assessment there's no mention on how many ways you can remove a planeswalker
I don't play Magic but from what ive seen of Planeswalkers you just judge them based on how broken their +1 is.
This has to be an older recording. If it was post-Mythic climb, he'd have to know how they play, esp. recognizing Liliana
Okay, if he's gonna call you out for gaslighting....you basically HAVE to have him try to rate some Un cards
Have a pool of realistic un cards and weird normal cards, maybe custom cards too, then make him figure out which is which by the text only.
Please God no. Nothing about Un sets is fun, funny, interesting, or worthwhile.
show him a random sticker card and then say "this card is banned in vintage"
@@elitemagikarp4822 probably even better to do an attraction one.
That would be great. Could even just slide one in without the context that they were never legal.
The Primeval Titan's art is made infinitely funnier by the flavor text, "When nature calls, *run*" lmaooooo
I was fan of both of them independently, the fact CGB and Rarran are friends now and make a ton of content together just warms my heart
The clearest indicator that two people are good friends is that they shit talk each other constantly.
Blue is historically the best color, and most people acknowledge that with a grunt when the first Island drops.
It’s been a long time since I’ve played, but I thought it was black. Or was black to most consistently good color… idk. I would always guess blue or black. With white and green being the worst depending on the timeframes
@@gamingwhilebroken2355green is easily the 2nd best colour now.
I think it will always depend on the format, but I say blue as well
just look at the prices of dual lands and the ones with blue mana are ridiculous expensive.
I find it more interesting what would be #2.
I'd say black or white.
@@fzoid3534 brother white isn't part do the Convo. I'd say green is 2nd now closely ahead of black, because being ahead in mana and the firepower of green is ridiculously strong. If we're talking about commander green is easily better than black, might be better than blue even even tho it's unlikely
The seance story has more bits to it. In the past few years, a listing on one of the personal sales sites for a collection of like, 10,000 seances. The youtuber 8thPlaceDave bought it. It apparently wasn't from the original guy, but could be related.
Can't believe this wasn't mentioned
The reason that no one actually ended up taking up the mantle to run Seance at the Pro Tour was that Wizards made it clear that if any one took the poster up on their offer they would get banned from the PT.
this was clearly all a ploy from seance guy to ensure that nobody could deploy the achilles heel of his seance-weak deck
Man, Jin Get-his-ass is now the canonical way to say the name
It's the only way you're allowed to say his name from now on XD
I love how so many people end up with that. Even "Jin-Gitaxias" is a bastardization of his actual name, and we keep doing it more and more humiliatingly
I forget who it was (maybe Ben Stark?) who joked that Kibler would show up to their testing house, find out what the rest of the team had come up with as the control deck of the format, and then build a deck that could beat that :'D
For any hearthstone players/newer Magic players: a specific use case for Liliana is against hexproof creatures like Invisible Stalker. You can't target the Stalker, but you can target the opponent and make them sacrifice the Stalker.
I found that out the hard way being on the receiving end of a Liliana at a modern night as a Bogles player.
Rarran reading the only Titan I’ve never seen before and thinking it’s better than Commander All-Star Sun Titan is incredible. Love the content, keep it up baby!
I mean he rated Sun titan as the second best.
Sun titan was amazing when I played it in vintage dredge. Haven't seen any other titans in that format.
@@Phnxkon I have Inferno Titan sometime seems some fringe play in Oath of Druids decks.
@@thetruth4654 interesting... to clean up orchird tokens?
@@adamcimrmann Eventually, He see's Sun Titan which is almost a staple and calls a card most people haven't seen before "infinitely better." That moment is hilarious.
Mr. Jin-"getyourass"-taxis
I'm on the floor hearing that
@@vietquang8739 I NEED to hear it in CGB's Jin voice
Yeah that was hilarious. Get his ass. The only memory I have of jin-githisass was playing a game of commander where Jin was someone elses general and they got him out on like turn 4. I played reliquary tower, which means you have infinite hand size. This person tried so, so hard to kill or get rid of my reliquary tower and I kept saying no in various ways.
What's fun about the Titans is that they've all seen at least moderate play in different formats, and even Frost Titan saw play( though that was largely because he just beat the other Titans by locking them down)
I really liked frost Titan in a grixis heartless summoning list I played around this time
Loved the kitty zoom in. 😊❤ Thanks Rarran!
I for one love seeing Rarran show up other places. Dude is so wholesome. big "card himbo" energy (in like a good way.)
That was some premium Séanceposting content, appreciate getting to fit that into the video
The random rant about card prices was the best part lmao, your uncut long talks are my favorites in this genre
Primeval titan being able to fetch 4x valakut the molten pinnacle kind of terrorized everyone for a time as well..
Yeah, good times, although Zendikar had rotated by this Pro Tour.
well you only need to fetch 2 really, after that the mountains do the job.
I used to play a modern deck that would Through the Breech either a Prime time or Emrakul on turn 3, either was an instant win.
@@hammerhiem75 that's completely fair and not unbalanced magic.
@@BlackDragonStudios1 My favourite ever Match of magic was at GP Birmingham when after T3 winning G1 against a Control deck.
I boarded in 4 Summoning Traps and he Spell Snared my Lotus Cobra on T2 and I flipped an Emrakul, he scooped.
2-0 in 5 turns total
A friend of mine quit Modern for years because of this (or more specifically, because of Scapeshift -- same concept). He would angrily declare it to be "time traveling mountain" nonsense because the ruling was that even though all of the mountains AND Valakut are entering play at the same time, Valakut "sees" them all as already in play and each one triggers the Bolt effect. Imagine playing someone with some amount of forests and other lands in play just for them to Scapeshift everything away and grab Valakut + 6 mountains/Stomping Grounds just to get dinged for 18 damage and probably lose because you made the mistake of playing an untapped Shock Land.
lololol the when invisible stalker came up next to Thalia I remembered “ohhh right Thalia wasn’t a standard card” A+++ pairing
Man this got me really nostalgic. Back during New Phyrexia, I played a UB heavy control deck that used Karn, Lilliana Vess, and Jace Beleren. It may have just been in my little comic store, but that deck carried me harder than I deserved and there was absolutely nothing more satisfying as getting all three on the board at once and watching my opponent slowly lose any semblance of agency for the rest of the match. And yeah, Karn's ultimate might as well say "You win the game", because that is absolutely how that plays out every time it goes off.
I think "Best Color in Magic" is a very contextual question. Looking at Legacy, Vintage, and CEDH, Blue is the best overall historic color. I think in lower power environments, the best colors are often, in some order, Blue, Green, and Black. There is an argument that Green is the best color in non-competitive Commander, and I think if you were to take any random set from Magic's history, your most consistently good color is probably Black.
Yeah, in general, I would say that the most consistently good color tends to be black in limited, green in standard, and blue in non-rotating formats.
Edit: For clarity, I just mean that if you know nothing else about a format, these tend to be safe bets.
@@minabasejderha5972 Although, if you were to ask "what has historically been the best color to play alone", the answer would probably be that Mono-Red has historically had many viable options in a variety of formats, and you don't often see other mono-color decks in competitive formats.
I would also hazard a guess that Red is the weakest overall color throughout Magic's history, except for a few combo pieces and Lightning Bolt.
Oof, I think you're way off here actually. Blue is obviously the best colour because all the coolest, most attractive, smartest, sexiest mages play it. But otherwise, bias aside, I'm surprised you didn't say Red tbh, I'd say it is BY FAR the most popular colour in Standard bo1, which, is BY FAR the most popular format in magic, and I'm not being sarcastic when I say that. People think Commander is the most popular format because it's what gets played in paper, but the number of games played on Arena absolutely dwarfs the number of games played in paper (I remember WOTC releasing a stat a while ago saying that more games get played on Arena each month than games have been played in paper in the history of Magic (i.e. each month of Arena is more than 30 years of paper magic in terms of numbers of games played). Even if they are just talking about Standard it would still be assumed that it would far far far trump commander in terms of games played. And with it being the most popular format by such a large margin, whatever is played in it most is the most popular colour overall. And anyone who plays bo1 on Arena knows that mono red, or occasionally boros, is a perpetual format mainstay and is perpetually one of, if not the, most popular deck at any given time (at least that has been the case for the last few years).
So while Blue is the sexiest colour, and green is often considered the best colour for commander, I think Red is objectively the most played colour.
@@moocowp4970 I will 100% give Red "best color for clearing dailies"
@@moocowp4970
Yeah man, let's compare a free to play digital client to real world paper games. "STANDARD B01 IS MOST POPULAR" kek
This is so skewed it's not even funny. Yeah, alone sitting at their home of course people are gonna play bo1, it's the fastest way to grind out your dailies.
What do people play the most when they're with their friends? Commander is by far the most popular here.
No hesitation from Mesa Falcon Guy whatsoever: Blue is the undeniably best colour in Magic History. Ancestral Recall, Time Walk, Timetwister, really says it all.
Pick any given time period and you've probably got a debate, but across all time it's 100% Blue.
Arguably, black has more busted cards than blue. Dark Ritual, Necropotence, Ad Nauseum, Demonic Tutor/Vampiric Tutor/Imperial Seal, Liliana of the Veil, both of the main pieces that enable Thassa's Oracle, cheap reanimation, repeat drain effects, hand hate, edicts. Blue is a very close contender, but I don't think it'd be nearly as relevant as it is without endless counterspells. Black just does too much, and often while cheapening its costs using life.
I don't think this is true. It started as the best color by far, but they quickly rebalanced and black was the strongest throughout MtG's earliest expansions. And in a macro sense, creatures have gotten better over time and I think most people would agree green has most often been the strongest color in the last ~20 years, which arguably puts it in the running for strongest color in history even if, when you put all the cards ever printed together, you wouldn't play that many green ones.
@@OMGclueless Green? Absolutely not. It's definitely had a few spots in the light, but unless it's either Prime Time or some combo, or a splash, it's just not that strong. Black is definitely way stronger as a singular color with blue coming in second.
@@tonysmith9905 It is a perennial powerhouse in standard, and has easily been the best color in the most popular format in MtG for its entire lifespan (Commander). As to why, I would say that there are two fundamental resources in Magic, cards and mana, and green is the best color at enabling the latter.
It so happens that in eternal formats, fixing is trivial in all colors due to fetches + duals, and there are enough hyper-efficient spells that it's less common to want to invest heavily in producing mana. So if you look at eternal formats you find a pretty strong bias against green, but eternal formats are not the way most people play MtG.
@@OMGclueless Green hasn't been relevant in Standard in a very long time. Last 3 to 4 years black has been the single strongest color with blue right behind. Esper dominated the meta game for a long time in tournament, as did rakdos. Green has one deck where you'd say the color was actually important and that's the Nissa deck with Analyst, but that wasn't even in the OTJ pro tour.
The last two times green was a powerhouse in standard was when Simic Tempo was a thing and Prime Time wolf run. Before that? Maybe Tooth and Nail after affinity was nerfed, I remember hearing about it being strong but it was before my time so Idk.
And since Mirrodin marked the modern change of power creep I can't possibly see green being good before then as the important, game winning color in a deck.
Perhaps with Oath of Druids or Natural order, but any thing back in those days can't reasonably see any thing else.
Green has two meta decks in pioneer.
Modern has a total of 3 decks where green is actually an important color in the deck.
Legacy green is much more represented but only by like 2 maybe 3 more decks. It's still not a hugely ran color.
Vintage surprising has a few more green decks as well, but mostly as ramp and Force of Vigor. The only one where green is a huge color is the Oath of Druids deck.
But please, if you can tell me some thing I missed I'd love to hear it.
Wow what a fun blast from the past! I started playing with M12 and Primeval Titan was my green-based midrange origin story. This really was a fantastic Standard format. Also I would agree that blue is the best color over Magic's history - I've heard people joke that Island is the best card in the game.
19:58 nightshade peddler and basilisk collar. Be still my heart. Inferno was a beast!
Jinny G already being a channel meme following "The Incident" and now being names Jin Getyourass is just so perfect. You need to get Rarran on Worst Possible and getting all your asses.
As a new viewer i wanna know what "The Incident" is xD
Search for 'CGB, the prismatic bridge incident' and you will find a glorius, must watch, piece of content.
Johnny G? Overwatch legend?
Jimmy G? Average NFL quarterback?@@damsaucy
32:00 "thalia over the years that follow has probably been a more impactful card"
I'm impressed, that's a very good understanding of the power of the card after he just learned that thalia didn't make the top 8 at that time.
"Why are you showing me Invisible Stalker?" Rarran does have some Magic nerd in him after all.
I started playing MTG on the day that Dark Ascension released. It was just a coincidence, I had no idea that the set was brand new. Watching the match between Finkel and Kibler was what made me fall in love with Magic!
This video really brings me back. I started playing Magic with my friends around this time, so I recognize a lot of these cards from the events we went to. I haven’t played in years, but I still got my Delver and my werewolves stored around somewhere. Good times.
Frankly, calling your viewers Mesa Falcons is perfect. We might not be cool, but you think we're cool and that's what counts.
I just wanna point out that when Rarran asked if CGB knew what an Alien was he brought up "Alien vs Predator" instead of one of the actual Alien movies 1:28:59
That guest guy did such a good job! Also thanks to the Mesa Falcon Guy for hosting such a great content!
I think it really requires some numbers to grasp a concept like Primeval Titan. I would have explained with something like, "There are around 500-700 cards in MTG that can search for basic lands. Of those, there are fewer than 50 cards that allow you to search for any land, including non-basic lands, and of those, only around 10-15 cards can put the land directly onto the battlefield. Of those 10-15 cards that let you search for any land, only about 3-4 can search multiple times over multiple turns, and Primeval Titan stands out as the absolute most powerful of all, allowing you to repeatedly trigger over multiple turns, as long as you can keep it alive and attacking. Similarly, only a few cards like Hour of Promise and Scapeshift allow you to fetch two non-basic lands at once, and those are generally one-time effects.". This explanation really gives a sense of the power of a card like Primeval Titan, even beyond how it was used in the specific format/rotation being referenced.
My first thought was that Primeval Titan would be great in commander. Turns out it's broken levels of great, neat.
Given how much Rarran loves Vorinclex's first ability, IMO show him Nyxbloom Ancient (and then break his heart by telling him how unplayable it is)
What are you talking about? It's a horde of notions all star 😆
It's a little bit rude to read this, mono greeen commanders love Nyxbloom ancient (it's also sometimes played in historic brawl) and the card price value is kinda worth, you should check it. If he were unplayable, he would worth 0,50 cts, but he's worth 15 dollars
@@alexandreleveque8394 ok but commanders not a real format
@@jorroj because the most popular format in mtg totally isn't a real format
@@jorroj cEDH is turning into the most relevant competitive format. Regular tournaments with over 10k pricepools. No other format has that.
Rarran trying to explain vigilance made me laugh, because he basically gave the description Gavin used recently to explain why they started giving Vigilance to blue creatures.
Gavin collab next lol
Rarran's cat showed up, immediately 10/10 video, this Mesa Falcon guy has never been funnier!
There's a second cat now, I must subscribe even harder. This could only be better if they had Voxy show up!
I love how Rarran evaluates planeswalkers almost entirely based on their ults, which rarely ever come into play lol
So many memories, one of the few pro tours i watched live. :)
I'd greatly enjoy if you could share more cycles in these videos. This was a fun one!
Not that I know what the seance deck was but, i do remember stumbling upon the seance + populate keyword. Since the seance doesnt make token have "get rid of at end of turn," you could copy the token forever. VERY fun copy to figure out during a FNM.
I love being called a Mesa Falcon. It means CGMF really likes me
We're good enough in his eyes to be included despite being terrible. 🥰
It means he used to like us
I absolutely loved this set, my first top 8 of a SCG event, playing my own brew. Merica control, urw splashing a tiny bit of black because it was a reanimation deck. Faithless looting unburial rights, elesh norn sun titan and images
I was a lapsed A/B/U player that stopped at Ice Age. This is when I returned and so much had changed; I loved it!
Onslaught block brought me back into MTG, but it was the Delver vs Wolf Run Ramp matchup that brought me back into competitive magic. So many interesting games.
1:28:53 i love the phyrexian designs. Visually they are probably my favourite villain faction in all of fiction
PSA-10 cards are pretty rare in general. Even "Pack Mint" cards usually will get 9.5. So even a "Gem Mint" card that's normally 50 cents could be $50 or more. PSA Rating a card definitely multiplies the price of something by a good bit. Like CGB said: The "Slab" must be worth it to some people. Meaning just the PSA case, label, and prestige of seeing "Gem Mint" on your card has value to some collectors.
Also not a lot of people are going to bother grading a regular recent reprint so there is really no comparison point.
Nah, this is just wrong. In a lot of cases getting some random card PSA graded (even at a 10) just makes it basically unsellable. Grading a card that's not genuinely expensive and collectible either adds nothing or reduces cost. You'll see ones like this posted for sale, but they'll almost never sell. Once in a blue moon you might randomly find someone who just specifically wants that specific card, but that's not really an actual rating of the cards genuine value.
Don't get your random cards graded. Slab isn't worth shit, grading isn't worth shit.
Is blue the best? yes. Does red deck win? technically also yes.
CGB clears everyone when it comes to making the most entertaining "Guess the Card" videos. Superb job every time.
Jin "get his ass" is actually a perfect descriptor of what happens if you play that card in a game of EDH (it's in my Koma ramp deck).
Congratz to 200k, Mesa Falcon Guy
I knew Kibler had won at least one pro tour, but I didn't know it was this one - but it makes perfect sense he'd be running six Titans and big Karn.
The semifinals really were a classic of all time. Shocking ending, and I loved that we got to see the promise of the werewolf mechanic really pay off and take the center stage.
Rarran does heaps of these type with MTG players. Yours is by far the best chemistry, love them and keep them coming
Idea for a type of video. Ranking characters through the years. Get every version of a character like jace and get your guest to figure out how good they were. It would offer a really cool way to show how magic has changed over the years.
What makes the pooping imagery even worse on the titans is that the flavor text for Primeval is "When nature calls, run." They knew what they were doing.
On Inferno Titan, the reason it was the 2nd most played was entirely that Primeval Titan was the first. It was played because it was an extra fatty in the colors of the Primeval Titan deck and not off its own merits. You wanted more than 4 titans and you're already red for the Kessig Wolf Run, so you run the on color titan. In raw, power level it's 4th behind Grave Titan at 2nd and Sun Titan at 3rd but it was just the right color for the titan deck.
I've almost caught up on CovertGoCrew videos since the last one, this is great timing :P
(Got fever recently and suddenly had a lot of time^^)
I never heard about the Seance Guy , that's Mike 'Pillow Guy' Lindell's levels of crazy !!!!!
Primeval Titan shitting in the woods+it's flavour text is top notch.
Boomer talk: this set got me back into magic from when i was a really young kid and i fell in love with Wolf Run Ramp. no joke, i still have the deck sleeved up today in my dresser. Prime time in gruul was a beast, i loved playing in FNM (bringing it back) with it and everyone was blown away by how fast and over the top prime time took it. great memories
Black is the best colour in competitive magic's history. A man with blue in his name is not to be trusted with this question lol
On the topic of Titans "doin the two", Grave Titan is also dropping zombies from his big ole dump truck.
I could do a whole set of Rarran judging various cycles. Cycles have some intrinsic interest simply because of their similarities, so the comparison between them is pretty fun.
Cgb and Rarran linking up is like when two of your friends you know seperatly know each other randomly (ive been a fan of both for years)
Maaan
Now I'm annoyed that we still haven't seen that Rarran Kibler crossover
These collabs are so much fun. They should have a million views. Get on it, fellow UA-cam consumers
I think it could be a cool thing for Rarran to see some of the insane decks instead of just cards. The question could be "how long until bans killed this deck".
12 Post would blow his mind
Not enough people play Vintage and Legacy, because there's decks that are just bananas in what they do. Shops when Trinisphere was unrestricted? Four Horsemen in Legacy? _The_ Deck is still being played 30 years later the same way it was in Arabian Nights, except it has some more efficient removal and uses bears instead of Serra Angel because it takes over that hard? WHAT DO YOU MEAN NAMING YOUR DECK "LANDS" AND YOUR OTHER DECK "NO LAND BELCHER?"
Show him lantern control and see how long it takes him to go insane trying to understand it. The deck barely makes sense from a magic perspective, for a hearthstone playing it would look psychotic
@@RedAequus Rarran: How does it win though? Does it have any win con?
Mesa Falcon Guy: No win conditions whatsoever. Nothing.
Rarran: OMG
@@RedAequus Yeah, that deck...a lot of people hate that deck because it is literally jace, the mindsculptor's +2 turned into a deck. If JTMS hadn't been printed with that fateseal ability I would not be surprised if that deck didn't exist at all right now and lantern of insight would still be in bulk bins everywhere. It's also crazy that lantern's only reprinting since fifth dawn is in the list.
I just wanted to let the hearthstone players and rarran (even tho he prolly wont see this) know that he was correct on the idea when talking about inferno titan- if you shoot a thing down *while* it is blocking, your damage wont go through unless it has trample. However, as CGB said, attack triggers are done before the declare blockers phase so that wont happen in this case. As a Legends of Runeterra player, this is a very interesting interaction thats used a ton- because attacks happen and then declaring blocks happen, but all things put on the stack during combat do not resolve until after the blocks are declared, even if you played them first. (Resolving just before the combat damage/strikes) You often see people do a chump block and then sac their creature with a spell, or you block with a creature thats about to be shot anyway, or you challenge (keyword that lets you chose who blocks it) a creature thats about to be removed from combat by a creature with trample so it goes through unblocked.
The thing about PSA 10 is that you can open a fresh pack that was stored in an official box, mint as anything, behind glass, pull the card, put it straight into a secure spot with latex gloves on...
And chances are due to factory defects, packaging and shipping damage, etc., through no fault of your own - it won't wind up at PSA 10.
Getting a PSA 10 is a roulette and prestige all on its own because of that roulette.
Love that you showed him the Phyrexian Praetors, allways fun to see new people react to some of the saltyest cards.
This is the best video format on your channels, please keep it up
I find it funny that the font on Rarran's name makes it look like RRRRRN
I net decked and played a Seance deck on MtGO after seing a bunch of people 4-0'ing with it in daily events. I don't remember exactly the deck list but I remember there was a creature combo you tore through your deck to find by chaining a creature that lets you Fact or Fiction on ETB. It even had Misthollow Griffin in the sideboard as a tech against Rest In Peace. 😂 The deck was wild, but tons of fun to play.
Honestly, even as someone with a lot of MTG history, Rarran matched my guesses 100% for the 5 Titans.
I figured Grave Titan was just good enough and thus would've been the most played, Sun would be a weird conditional 3-2 or 4-1 maybe sideboard, Primeval would just be like that one guy, Inferno and Flood just weak unplayable trash.
This was a nostalgic video for me. I started playing at the end of Mirrodin, so Innistrad block was when I started getting serious. A foil Champion of the Parish was the first single I ever bought and I still play it in a human EDH deck.
The fact that one of the best blue white control players chooses to embrace the Mesa Falcons in his first deck is such a great example that MTG has an actual learning curve. If you struggle rn, keep trying, you will get better.
My first paper MTG deck was Valakut Ramp. I love me some primeval titan. Arena needs to add Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle.
Just chiming in to tell you that you all look great!
Poor Rarran, he misunderstood Seance, thinking the token sticks around for a turn.
The best color of Magic is either Blue or Black for sure. For just Commander I would say Blue or Green.
After years of watching your videos and you regularly ask the editor for something that inevitably didn't get done, it's so cool that you have an editor now who actually makes the things you ask for happen on-screen! Great job!
About the "best color": it depends on how you phrase the question, but I'd say it's either blue or black, and if i had to pick one it's probably blue. To answer that question we have to look at the older, most powerful formats like legacy and vintage, and blue is the most represented color by far with how incredibly strong efficient card draw and effects like Force of Will are. Meanwhile black is less omnipresent but probably has the most cards that could be considered broken and that are banned or restricted in some cases, like DarkRit, Necropotence, DemoTutor, Yawg'sWill and similar. So I'd say that it's definitely one of these two.
I’ve always heard blue is the best overall and black is the best at being consistently good.
But I might be biased as blue black is my favourite dual colour tied with black white. And WUB being my three coloured go to. Not a fan of Red, it’s not bad by any means but my brain doesn’t like its play style
@@gamingwhilebroken2355 I fully agree with you on the color rankings my good sir.
Personal tier list:
1. Black
2. Blue
3. White
4. Green
5. Red
@@SnekFangz having red at the bottom is insane mono red has consistently been the best mono color deck
@@j00d72 I mean is standard and younger forms that's true, but historically other colors just have stronger cards. You can't really play red aggro in legacy or vintage (only exception would be legacy red prison I guess)
The real big problem with Seance is that you get a mob for one turn, so on the opponent's turn it can block, and that's it. If it gave haste you could also attack with it, which would make it playable to be able to fully reuse every major creature you lost or sacrificed. It would have been busted with the Titans, tho, giving an instant double activation of their ability every time, and that perhaps is what made WotC choose not to let it give attacks since they were such a big part of that format at the time. But while Comes into Play effects are fun, they aren't be-all end-all and if that's all you're getting, you're using creatures basically as overpriced spells you get to use twice.
I feel like it could still be ok with the evoke elementals and Ephemerate. But it's also very weak to graveyard hate, so doubt it's worth it.
Bro you said Jin-GetHisAss, I just lost it
As to the color question from Rarran, I'd say that the 'best' color is either blue or black, as someone who loves me some green stompy stuff. As our resident Mesa Falcon guy pointed out, blue is the card draw and extra turn color, along with the color that tells your opponents that they can't play the game without your permission.
On the other hand though, black does everything, but in a cheat-y, roundabout way. It doesn't counter your spells, just forces you to discard. It doesn't ramp out mana sources, it has sacrifice engines and spells to give a temporary boost. Everything has a downside, but it does nearly everything but not as well as the other colors. Probably the best color to splash.
To answer Rarran's question of which color in Magic is the all time best, honestly you'll find defenders of all colors but White wanting to come for this title (Even fans of White know that it has the rockiest history of all of the colors). I agree with CGB's assessment of Blue considering 3 of the 9 cards in the Power 9, the only three that weren't colorless were all Blue (On top of being the color of card draw and extra turns and whatnot). However, I would like to throw in there that there is a difference between "the best color in Magic by itself," and "the best color in Magic overall," because I am of the opinion that Black is actually the best/strongest color in Magic, BUT with the caveat that this mainly true when Black is paired up with at least 1 other color. Mono-Black can suffer from shooting itself in the foot too much sometimes with its strategies, but when paired with another color it can offset that with whatever the other color brings to basically fill in the self inflicted bullet holes in its foot. Basically Black can act as a turbo boost charge for the other 4 colors to enhance and spike up their gameplay, but without the other colors as a "base fuel" it could end up destroying its own engine.
White had Balance, and since then has received one bannable card. It's a really weak colour.
@@JohnFromAccounting As a singular color sure. It's probably the absolute best support color since it does so much just not very good at any thing other than making lots of dudes or gaining life hah.
@@tonysmith9905 Don’t forget the cursed name that shall not be spoken amongst commander players (psst psst MLD). Also stax.
Well when it comes to best colour it’s kind of interesting because it depends on if you are just referring to single colour, or including the colour playing a role in a multicolour deck. Because if you’re talking single colour the answer is red with the most wins of world championship formats compared to any other deck type.
Burn is just always going to be viable
Me opening like 3 primevil titans at release and 2 promos but thinking they were mid but because i was cheap and basically only used basic lands
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3000 cards ,oh wow..m
Meanwhile every Yu-Gi-Oh tournament having 10000+ cards legal ..
These are some of my favorite content styles you guys do. I’ve rediscovered hearthstone and do battle grounds with my wife.(She is now obsessed and I have a hard time finding time to play mtg now lol)
in a big enough tournament area, putting a +1/+1 counter on a creature for each person walking through the door could be fun to keep track of.
I think a large part of what makes Primeval Titan good that rarran wasn't considering as an HS player is that tutoring lands out of your deck- beyond just ramping or pulling lands with effects- thins out dead draws. When you get to 6+ mana, you wanna draw things to play with your mana, but you still have a ton of lands that you can brick into. HS has more draw in general, and also, every draw is a playable card rather than mana.
I'll definitely be the one to correct you about green being dominant, because R/G Valakut was brutal to play against until people realized that Jace was the best card in the format.
My pick for the color you want the most in your deck throughout history is red. Bolt, stone rain, kiki jiki, underworld breach, ragavan, expressive iteration. Jund and/or Izzet decks have been high in the meta game for the majority of the history of the game. It's rarely the color of the big splashy playmakers, but it's always there as a solid option that can compete.
But that's just vibes, id be interested to see the breakdown across all competitive play. Maybe black would clinch it with Doomsday and Bolas' Citadel from vintage tournaments, depending on how you weight the results.
Agreed. Most of the time of MtG since the players figured out how to curve out, red has been viable. It's rarely the best, but it's the tempo check for most formats.
These vudwis are so good btw! Creative new ways of challengin. Keep it up! ❤
the meme of island being the best card in the history of magic comes from truth. blue is for sure the best color.