The FBI Confiscated my Willie Mays & Pete Rose Rookies!!!!
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How did they find you?
This story has more holes than Swiss cheese.
thx for teaching us on the fakes
Back in the late 90s I was scammed by Stan The Man sports cards in NJ. I ended up buying a cut Cy Young signature it ended up being a forgery. I called the local fbi where I live. They came and took the card and was used as evidence in the Operation Foul ball case.
Wow thats an insane story. Crazy what people do for cards. Thanks for sharing
i think its funny you didnt mention the price you paid for the cards
I’m in Orlando I love done that drive before
FBI would not email you. They would be knocking on your door. My guess is the seller realized he sold to low. Devised a way to get his money back. And you bought into the scam.
I bet he was scammed. He'll never get his money back. The St Louis FBI would contact the closest FBI agents office to the video maker's house and go to his house and question him.
@@888strummer I totally agree and think he got scammed.
How do they know it was those exact cards
The cert number is on each slab
The FBI email could be sketchy as well, odd that you'd know the owners info; I wouldn't expect that from the FBI. If you get the payment and it clears, then it's not so sketchy. There are scams where the 2nd step is pretending to be a govt agent and getting account info, I hope he sends a money order; I wouldn't want my account number stamped on a check he gets (but again, only if you have any doubt.)
As to 'hard to find cards,' I love the Nolan Ryan rookie. When I was a kid, they were only available mint for $1600 (no internet to find the bargains.) What was mint then, would be 6-8 in most cases today; finally seeing some gains. From late 2019 until now, I've been buying them. When I found out there were 3 rare versions, I made an effort to buy them (Milton Bradley is 1/30th the pop, O-Pee-Chee is 1/100th the pop and Venezuelan is such a tiny pop report it's uncertain how complete it is; but it's very rare.) Without earning a lot, I bought 3-4 Milton Bradley (I thought it was 7, but some were just off center Topps that had the white line; wrong back to be MB though), 6 O-Pee-Chee and twice I came close to Venny's (none yet.) I probably bought 50+ total, sold a few, returned a few, I've got 47 and sold 7 and returned 2 fakes and a few sellers were scammers that never sent so probably 57. This of a card I dreamed of having one some day. I'll keep a dozen, all MB (I sold the lowest grade one already, 2-3 left; 1 is being graded so I'll see if it's MB) all OPC (why sell something that rare unless the price is MJ rookie or Mantle rookie level?)
Sorry to hear you had to return them, I find the whole story odd; I'd think they'd arrest the guy and insurance would pay. How they found you unless you were selling them is beyond me. (I just noticed your PWCC comment, wow; that's crazy. They should make their stolen cards database public.)
I really want to get the other Nolan Ryan variants. My name is Ryan Nolan, so I have to get them for my PC. I just picked up a centered 4 earlier this year for 500 and was thrilled to have it.
Next up is the 3 other versions, but I'll be waiting until I get a few more pre war cards and the Seaver rookie.
On the FBI side of things, I agree it can be sketchy. But I was given ample proof that it was an agent, and I did a background check as well.
You did the right thing. I'm glad your getting reimbursed. I can't imagine going through that. Thank you for sharing.
I was so stressed for the few days of dealing with the feds. I didn't know what was going to happen. I'm not rich by any means and losing the money and cards would be a huge hit
Can you explain who’s money went back to who? Or if the original owners shipping insurance covered your reimbursement? And did the thief get busted with your cash, but then than cash was not returned to you? It’s a confusing 3 way money return and for educational purposes please lay out exactly who’s money went back to who; we’d all appreciate it and it’s great content! - from the way I interpreted the video, it sounded like the thief got busted and kept the money ( maybe fbi confiscated it?? And didn’t get “it” back to you) - but then original owner paid you somehow with his money; sooooo where did that come from? - great video thanks!!
@@hockeycardsonly3025 Yeah this story is a little strange. Why would the original owner pay for his cards back?
@@badlucksbargainbasementbas875 The original owner wouldn't pay for his cards back. Breakout Cards will never get a "check in the mail". More likely the Facebook seller in Georgia sent a fake e-mail claiming to be the FBI and then had Breakout Cards send the cards to a friend of his in St Louis, so now they got the cards back and have Break Out's money. Does anyone really think the FBI would send an e-mail to someone when investigating? The St Louis FBI would contact the FBI office closest to Break Out and knock on his door
I would have never responded to the email. FBI is in every state and they would have showed up at your house.
So wait a minute, I am sure you left some information out, but how did they know you had them? 2nd I don't think the FBI would contact you buy e-mail. Are you sure you didn't just get scammed?
All the info isn't in the video. A friend also bought cards from the same seller and all 6 came back stolen when submitted to PWCC. The agent got his info from PWCC when they pulled the cards. Friend told the agent I also had the cards
Lesson learned: if it’s too good of a deal in this market, then something is definitely not right.
Yeah, all seemed fine for months until the cards got flagged
That's B.S. Wow, the person who got ripped off is tough...
That sucks bad!! I got burned on a 1960 Brooks Robinson, 1969 Brooks Robinson and a couple of others in the past before I knew what to look for I guess we live and learn!!!
In the future... wait until the check clears before sending those cards back.
Ye... I haven't received the check yet, getting a little worried
I am pretty sure that was a fake FBI agent and he got scammed
I bought a Gretzky rookie om Ebay once from a place called NYC Cards and it turned out to be a fake. Naturally there was no reply to my inquiètes. If it looks too good to be true then it is .
Yup
Thanks for sharing!
When you buy stolen property and Leo finds it (state or feds) they confiscate it to return to original owner and the last buyer eats the cash loss from bad purchase. Feds don't call you, they show up to take immediate possession of said property to catalog and return to owner after processing and clearance of an open case. You don't contact original owner and ask if they want their cards back, much less get reimbursed. If feds contact you they need the cards to clear a case. If they don't, they're not feds. Either you got scammed or it's a nice story, either way sorry dude.
I didn't contact the original owner, the FBI agent did first. The guy had no obligation to refund for the purchase. They emailed me first from an fbi.gov email address before calling. I confirmed that they were legit. I wouldn't have sent the cards otherwise.
I just hope you weren't scammed, hackers can possibly fake email addresses, don't quote me on that but I wouldn't be surprised if they can.
@@BreakoutCards Sounds like the scammers e-mailed you with a fake fbi e-mail address and then the scammers posed as fbi agents and called you
@@888strummer I am getting a little worried. Check hasn't been recieved yet
@@BreakoutCards You're a good guy so I hope this ends okay for you. If you got scammed then I hope law enforcement can help you recover.
Why wouldn't the scammer be the one doing reimbursement? It just seems crazy to me that the person who had property stolen is the one who has to pay to get their property back.
The original owner did not have to give us anything. He did it out of the kindness of his heart. The scammer will have to give money back but that money might come in 1-5 years or might not come at all. He will probably be in jail for a long time lol
Refreshing story how many people if they had the cards would have said they already sold them and then cracked the slabs and resubmitted them . Yeah i got burned a few times back in the late 80s . Sold 4 84 fleer update clemmens for 200 each threw the internet . Mailed the cards and like and idiot didnt seal the cases with sort of label that i only had . Boom guys gets the cards and says there counterfeit and i have to pay him back . So i didnt want to get kicked off the site so i did . They werent fake i cracked an 84 fleer update case . Lesson learned . Protect yourself
Curious to know y the guy would choose to buy his OWN cards back
He did not have to pay anything. He did this out of the kindness of his heart. It was a thank you for finding his cards and returning them to him
Good video !!
I want to take a dump in the middle of a Wal Mart floor and watch people step in it.
He had to pay you back or he would have been committing insurance fraud
The 1964 Rose with the Iconic Rookie trophy is my holy grail.
I love that card. I picked one up last year at a card show
Amazing story. Thx for sharing.
No Problem. Thanks for watching
Man oh man the ole FBI email
Trying to replace my damaged card with Topps worth couple grand. They received it and said it was sent back. Never got a return notification but recently gave me a tracking number after trying to find where it was for months. Tracking number shows it never got accepted at a facility. Now they’re unwilling to do anything about their mistake or to make it right.
Thats crazy was it a redemption card?
@@BreakoutCards no damaged card replacement program
Best thing about graded cards if your register them no one can sell them or register without you knowing I had an embiid stolen from me and two days later I was notified by psa they tried to add thier info to the registry and I got the dudes name address everything press charges got my card back
If you buy a card like that lesson of story check registered by same person selling you the card and have them transfer registry at time of sale
Why did the original owner have to pay for his cards? Very strange. Feel like a piece of info is missing from this story.
I believe he got insurance money on the cards.
Wait if they were stolen from a FedEx facility . The original owner who shipped , should have had insurance on the package and have been fully reimbursed by FedEx.
Not sure if he insured the packages or not but that is a great observation. Perhaps that is how he got money to pay us back haha
@@BreakoutCards well I'm not him so I can't say he did insure them , but I know if I'm mailing anything worth $10 or more I'm getting insurance, so with stuff worth thousands it would only be common sense.
@@thisshouldbeentertaining3386 Yeah I agree, I would like to know the answer to that question. I am assuming he didn't which does sound a bit crazy
u did the right thing!
the one dislike is the guy who stole the cards!!!
probably lol
The other 29 now is his Family. Quality comment on your side.
@@Ryndaniels_37 Thank you very much!
Thanks for sharing
Thank you for watching
If he filed an insurance claim and got paid and now he has the cards back I wouldn't be surprised if the insurance company demands their money back. I kind of feel like this story is not over but luckily, your part of it should be over.
I agree! There also might be a lawsuit with the person who stole the cards and took the money, but who knows when that will be and if the money will be given back. This is definitely one for the books
Man crazy story
tell me about it
That pretty amazing that the guy paid you to get his stolen cards back. He really didn't have to so that is the most amazing part of this story imo. You earned a new sub. Great story.
Thank you for watching! I thought that was super generous and it is not required to pay back for stolen goods which is something I did not know before this incident
Yeah okay...the check's in the mail. Sure.
People actually sell photo copies of cards for 99 cents on eBay, sad. Not to mention the Jose Urbie and Alex Sanchez money laundering "error" cards. Also, NBA Top Shot got hit hard last year, but Dapper labs seems to have cleared things up. Caveat Emptor buyer beware market out there.
I gentleman who had them stolen from FedEx must have had them insured. He had already been payed for his lose. This is probably the reason you go your money back. I had old coca-cola Victorian trade cards stolen from my house. I didn’t have them insured. I found out who bought the stolen goods. He requested payment for the stolen goods he had purchased. I didn’t have the money to by back my own property. I contacted the police but my Cards where never returned. I ended up having to take a major on those cards plus thousands of dollars worth of other items. You where very lucky. It’s sad when you can’t get your property back even though you know who bought the stolen goods. The police did nothing.
Thanks for sharing very interesting and sneaky shows another value of eBay, even tho the fees are crazy. I’ve only had sellers return cards after they went down in value. Good to call these out. Subscribed.
Thanks for subbing
Wow, that sucks! So sorry to hear about your loss, but really glad it was not a total loss!
Thank you. Just a small roadblock longterm
At least you were reimbursed. Your loss could have been much greater. Did they ever find out who stole them? If the FBI knows a specific serial # graded card has been stolen then they should contact the grading company and that company should have that card notated when you look it up on their site.
If it's TOO good to be true...well, you KNOW it usually is. IN this case, the prices were too good...but the cards were stolen. Ultimately, you did the right thing. Honesty pays off in the end.
Are you going to talk about how you got scam
Plot twist: the supposed fbi agent was a scammer from Venezuela and you just got duped.
lol
Not really a plot twist, maybe not from Venezuela but the guy most likely got duped
I'm a little confused on why the guy would give you money for the cards back unless he's taking that money out of an insurance claim that he filed?
I think he did this as a kind gesture because we did find his cards for him. Also, he knew we paid good money for the cards and wanted to help us out. He truly did not have to do this and I thank him for doing it.
The fact that they were slabbed and serial numbered was your downfall. If they were loose it woulda been a different story they coulda been on a fishing expedition.
Yeah, if the crook was smart he would have broken them out and got them reslabbed lol
@@BreakoutCards the fbi never woulda figured it out. How dumb do you have to be to post serial numbered stolen items on Facebook and think the feds ain’t gonna figure that out one day? This dude needs to be on worlds dumbest criminals ffs smfh. I hope he went to jail just for the crime of being stupid more than anything.
Crazy I've actually been to Pete roses house in Santa Clarita for a pool party and damn near dated his daughter
That's insane. Is he a cool guy?
I like your videos. We collect different era’s but you provide great content & info. Keep up the work. You bring really nice insight to the hobby.
Just subscribed crazy story atleast you got your money back thanks for sharing 👍
Wow, I have been wondering what the FBI has been up to! 😎
Wowww brother! That's rough! Atleast you held them for a few. I actually thought you were joking in the title, but dang what a crazy story. Glad you documented the trip and got the money back. 🙂✌️
Glad I did as well. Craziest thing ever.
Regarding baseball cards. A favorite hobby, off and on I purchase my latest buy was a box of Topps Heritage cards. I bought from a seller on FB. Cards never arrived, had to file a claim with Wells Fargo. My main beef, I feel I have been cheated with counterfit cards, and these are from reputable sellers on EBAY. I bought a few vintage Brooklyn Dodgers, cards that are almost 70 years old now. Cards arrive pristine, I mean the cardboard these cards are printed on doesn't even looked age. Pretty hard to challenge and how do they grade it? It looks obvious to me these cards aren't 65 years old.
I would be extremely skeptical buying raw vintage online. Especially from a seller that you do not personally know. At least you can always get a refund through ebay
You are a good person
thanks
So the dude had to pay you to get his stolen card back??? Wtf man 👎
He did not have to pay us. He did that because he wanted to, that was all out of choice. it was an extremely kind gesture.
THIS IS A FICTION STORY CORRECT. I WONDER IF I CAN PICK THAT BOOK UP AT THE LOCAL LIBRARY
I'll send you whatever proof you want. You let me know.
Damn. That sucks. But great job staying positive.
Also, you seem well informed, how much would you change to tell me if a card is fake or not? I have a Jodarn Nike rc, it seems to pass all the tests but I wont second opinion before sending it off to be graded, I'm afraid if I submit a card that turns out to be fake I'll end up on some internal list
Shoot me an email breakoutsports3@gmail.com
. I won't charge you, I'd like to use it as content in another fakes video if that's ok with you?
@@BreakoutCards definitely!! I'd appreciate that! I'll email you later
Emailed you pics, let me know what you think, thanks!
I can assure you if it's a Jordarn Nike Rookie its FAKE lol
@@wheelman0799 well that sucks :( I guess he can show us the tells on my card, I knew a few things to look for, and i thought they passed, but we'll see
Wait originally owner reimbursed you to get his own stolen cards back? Why would he do that? How much did you paid out for those cards?
He probably got the insurance money from the cards
Did you ever get your money back?
Not yet but we are going to receive it very soon
Great informational video. Just subscribed to u!
Thank you!
Great story!
Thank you
That sucks man. I live in Savannah and I remember wondering who you were buying those cards from when you posted the original video. Glad that you got your money back. I'm sure you'll get the cards legitimately one day!!
I hope so too! We both want them back because we bought them fair and square!
Wild AF! How did the FBI know you had the cards?
PS sick edits
Thank you! And I believe it was from PWCC. A friend also bought cards from the same seller and PWCC was alerted they were stolen
@@BreakoutCards Did you ever get the money back?
Bro did you talk to them in person or was it some mysterious FBI email agent
The struggle is real 👊🏼
It really is James but Ryan and I will eventually get those cards back. Everything happens for a reason
Hey great video! Do u know how to spot a Jerry rice reprint? I got one at a card shop for $75 but im worried it could be a reprint. Ive tried searching google but cant find anything to explain if its a reprint. Please help and thank you
it proly isnt if u spent 75...a reprint will be reconizable read the dates on the bottom back of the card..almost all reprints will have the real date ...i dont think many people are faking jerry rice rcs unless some fake psa shit goin on
@@LITMOVIESCENES🙅🤦 There are a lot of fake Jerry Rice rookie cards on eBay. Not all say reprint on card or have a different copyright date from the original. Some you can tell from the photos, some you can't. Depends on how to clear the photo is and what kind of stock it was printed on.
@@imperfectgamer54 shouldnt be hard to figure out ..usually pretty obvious
@@imperfectgamer54 shouldnt be hard to figure out
@@LITMOVIESCENES take a look on eBay. You'll see how hard it is to tell some of them apart if the seller don't disclose it's a reprint. If you see an quick and easy way to tell the difference from the photos, let us know.
Dang that sucks
Yup, but it's part of life. Nothing is perfect
And the thief.....? Ya Missed that detail.
FBI has the identity. Idk what has happened since.
Blowout forums has something like that. Its been awhile since I have logged in but check it out just search for the sticky of I think "STOLEN CARDS LIST" or something similiar. Sucks to hear but one question. How did the FBI know YOU had those cards? That was never answered.
The cards were raw too this story makes no sense. How would the FBI know they were the exact cards and like you said how did they know he had them. 🤷
Hey, glad to know blowout has that. I'm going to check before making a big purchase. The FBI found out through PWCC and the UA-cam video. I didn't buy all the cards in the collection. 6 other cards were bought by a friend and put on PWCC. PWCC pulled them down when the FBI reached out.
@@Tony_Pepperoni The cards were not raw. The Mays was a PSA 1 and the Rose was a PSA 3.5
@@BreakoutCards gotcha I’m a bad listener 😆
you didn't know what month it was, you didn't know what town it was, the FBI called your phone, and the shady seller gave you back a full refund. I need a second opinion on this story LOL
The seller didn't give me a refund. The original owner of the cards did. If you look at my channel, February 21st I uploaded the Rose/Mays video. I met in a small town in Georgia. Wasn't a large city like Savannah or Atlanta.
No genius. You need to watch the video again. You must be slow.
Sound like dude you got hustled. Someone is selling the cards, buying the cards back with a "check" and then resell them over again. I doubt the FBI is going to make initial contact through an email. P.s you sent the cards back without getting the check and confirming it's real and that the funds were in your account? I seen this on a TV show once but it wasn't with sports cards and it was a scam, so hopefully you get your money back.
@@imperfectgamer54 The person he bought the cards from probably sent a fake e-mail claiming to be the FBI and then he had Breakout send the cards to a friend of his in St Louis. A very obvious scam. So they have their cards still and have Breakout's money
@@888strummer yep spoiler alert check never comes
The guy got paid the insurance you should have kept it
Did u try to reach out to the scammer?
Very surprised the FBI actually took this on. Congrats on your integrity and sharing.
FBI was because it went to different states. If it was same state the police would have.
@@arthurcohen9390 Same question I had at first. It crossed states lines so it's a federal crime
Yeah I got ripped off about a month ago from a guy in New Jersey he ripped me off on my Mac Michael Jordan baseball cardplus I gave him a free Jordan card included in the order just because mail was taking so long so I included it with his purchase of the Michael Jordan card and playing baseball
Sad story that you lost those cards....but thanks so much for sharing.
Bo problem, thanks for watching
You got scammed. The FBI would never contact you by email. 🤦♂️🤦♂️
Great that you got your money back!! I have lost thousands of dollars over the years due to different scams, it sucks get taken!!! Aren't there a lot of the Mays and Rose rookie cards on posted Ebay? I have not looked for those cards for over ten years now.
There are lots on eBay. But the prices have skyrocketed the past few months
Wow that’s freaking insane man. Sucks you had to send em back. But shit you saved your ass and the original owners. But hey some money was wasted but hey it’s better then going to jail if they thought you had stole em lol.
Good thing everything worked out for both. Screw the dude whole stole the cards man.
Hate people who steal and scam. Worst shit ever
I have had lots of my high end rookies and graded cards stolen by my former roommates when they moved out. The police were absolutely useless!!!
I guess he didn't try to sell them then
Holly Drag On of a story!!
So did the FBI actually confiscate the cards? How did you connect with the original owner?
I think the video maker is either making up a story or he got scammed because the original owner would never have his cards stolen and then have the FBI involved and then actually pay the video maker to send the cards back. There is no way the video maker gets his money back from the original owner
The FBI agent had the contact info of the original owner
Can you explain who’s money went back to who? Or if the original owners shipping insurance covered your reimbursement? And did the thief get busted with your cash, but then the original cash was not returned to you? It’s a confusing 3 way money return and for educational purposes please lay out exactly who’s money went back to who; we’d all appreciate it and it’s great content! - from the way I interpreted the video, it sounded like the thief got busted and kept the money ( maybe fbi confiscated it?? And then did not get “it” back to you) - but then original owner paid you somehow with his money; sooooo where did that money come from? - great video thanks!!
Subscribed 🤓👍
I believe that the shipping insurance covered the reimbursement. The payment for the cards was through Zelle and Cash App. I assume that the FBI confiscated it.
Damn, that’s a shame brother, but at the end...you did the right thing...you ever found out what happen to the guy who sold you the cards?
The FBI has his identity. That's the last I know about it
I hope the guy follows through on his word and gives you the $ you paid for them. Kind of curious how good the deal was. I'm figuring since they weren't the actual owner they weren't concerned about getting anywhere near top dollar
About 60% ebay comps at the time. The card went up since then
What the heck you mean the guy didn't have to pay you back some dang body would be paying me back ore i'd be hiding the cards somewhere off site and not telling anyone where they at until I did get paid.
Nope, since its stolen goods he doesn't have to.
@@BreakoutCards yeah he does
It would help if you put his name of blast? Not to mention, FedEx is liable for these loses and could be sued 🤔. I just dont see what good it does to “inform” folks of people like this without putting names on the record FOR PEOPLE TO WATCH OUT FOR? 🙄
So did anything happen to the predator or they get away with it?
FBI has the identity. That's all I know
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣"the FBI emailed me" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣... So I mailed the cards to a stranger 🤣🤣🤣
Can't make this stuff up. Would you like more proof?
@@BreakoutCards you cash the check?
Wow
You should start a go fund me to get people to help you buy the cards again forreal
no, you really shouldn't.
@@coreypersky927 I'm not going to. I want to get them a legitimate way
why dont you start your own database?
Don’t have the time
A lot of Tom Brady reprints and idiots buy them . That is illegal
So did you ever end up getting your money back? Story / progression of events sounds super suspect, so I’m guessing that you never got the check. Hopefully you did though
He shouldn't have paid you for his cards. You knew what you were doing meeting some shady guy somewhere to buy stuff on the cheap.
Cool enough story didn't need the clickbait title...
You will get it back triple fold my brother karma is real
Yessir, Ryan and I hope to get these cards back in the future
Incredible
It really is. So much bs in this world
You should not have asked the original owner to compensate you for the purchase, also a bit odd if you never sat down with an agent/handed over the stolen property in person.
I never asked, he offered. The agent I was talking to was based out of the Missouri office while I'm in Orlando