@@sgtmiklin Sorry was not there in 83.... I was in 84 looking after a Lola T 610.... I have been told I am in the 84 book but I have never seen one.... :-))
It's amazing how many times they've changed that circuit over the years. No chicane at the Dunlop bridge, the forest esses, the REAL Mulsanne Straight... thanks for uploading this.
I don’t really care about the old Mulsanne. TBH, this was as good as it got, with a bit of slipstreaming. It really doesn’t take a lot of skill to drive on a 5.8 km straight. What I really miss is the old Dunlop Curve and the run down to the Esses. That took a good car, plenty of guts and good skills.
@@thethirdman225 really try looking at the start of the 1986 Race as Vern Schuppan {Factory 962} tackles Oscar Larruri {Fortuna 962}down that straight the cars are all over the place, civvy road bups wind pushing on the cars , proper driving and drafting to attack
My second year at Le Mans. The first was 1981. I managed to persuade my wife to come with me in 2001 on the promise the weather would be as glorious as this video shows. Unfortunately it p**sed down the whole weekend and we never went back 😢. Thanks for the lovely memories though ❤
Great video! Basically every car on the track is an absolute classic, La Sarthe is in its proper layout, mid-race driver commentary, and dear lord those turbo and engine sounds.
Brilliant stuff ! The quality of the pictures is one of the best I've ever seen on an old 80's footage. The Mulsanne straight without it's chicanes looks both scary and incredible ! Thank you very much for uploading this ! :)
@@gliderfs621 I agree mate. That is it's real name but somehow the rest of the world call it the Mulsanne straight. Which is true in some ways because the town of Mulsanne is at the end of the straight.
The start of the golden era of Group C, i was a young boy (1972) and i loved/ love this cars, i was luky when i went in 1989 to see a friend racing in a 962. Today, i am proud to have seen this race ❤
You where really lucky to see that. I love this cars like you. This cars and this track together, with the original long straight, this was motor car racing, as I always imagined. The long gears hand shifted, this sound and the beauty of this cars, and you also had the smell of oil and race gasoline, at that time! Keep your memories as something like that will not come again in our lives I am afraid! ❤❤❤
@@sircharles7323 in France we have Macron 🙄, but we have le Mans, in 1989, we had le Mans, Dijon-Prenois and Magny Cours the same year, it was great 🎉🎉😊
Good god those straight away speeds are terrifying. I was fascinated with these cars at the time. Saw an IMSA race with Geoff Brabham in the Nissan GTP and the amazing Group 44 4WD Audi Quattros.
Look at the crowds of people lining both sides of the track. Haven't seen it like that for many many years. These were the golden days, long gone and never to return unfortunately.
🙏 Thank You So Much for sharing this Le Mans 1984 Race when the Belgian Ace Driver Stefan Bellof was still alive ( Stefan Bellof sadly passed away in 1985 World Sportcar Championships round in Spa Francorchamp in a PORSCHE 956 or 962C ) >>> 🕯🌷🌿🌍💖🕊🇫🇷🇧🇪
I’ve been a fan of Le Mans since childhood in the late 1960s. I was 20 years old in 1984 and was blown away by Porsche domination of Group C with the legendary 956 and 962 ptypes. Le Mans still remains one of my greatest wish list items; to visit the town and attend the event, ogle the many fantastic and beautiful cars, and simply gorge on that famously well documented atmosphere. I live in Southern England yet still life manages to throws curved balls of every description at the most crucial moments. Quite pathetic considering that I live a relatively modest distance (compared to other Le Mans pilgrims) from that little town in France for the best part of 20 years. Now I wonder as I approach old age if I will ever make it there. Moreso now that Ferrari one of the most famous names in Le Manson history are once more at the top of the podium slaughtering all comers including Porsche in the Hypercar category. After a half century absence, the Ferrari return to glory reads better than any race car Hollywood script.
Driving those kind of speeds takes an insane amount of skill and commitment then you take into account there are probably 40-50 other cars out there traveling same speed and slower and at night it's actually incredible.
In a straight line looks like they'd give the modern stuff a run for it's money. Just the braking zones where you see modern aero, brakes & tyre technology has advanced.
A Group C car would get annihilated by a modern LMP. Too much turbo lag, long shifting, poor brakes, little mechanical grip, very difficult to drive. Maybe against a GTE but no way against a modern prototype.
*_”Just the braking zones where you see modern aero, brakes and tyre technology has advanced.”_* Yeah, all the important bits. That’s also the bit where the most skills are evident.
Everybody who saw this live was really lucky. I love this cars and this track together, with the original long straight. This was motor car racing, as I always imagined. The long gears, hand shifted, this sound and the beauty of this cars and the smell of oil and race gasoline, at that time! Something like that will not come again in our age of digital plastic electric datalysis crisis homo medialus ...
Excellent! Better video quality then the Derek Bell clip I've always watched. Didn't know that Mason drove at this level. Very impressive. Impressive, too, at Olympia Stadium in Detroit, late June '75...
It's not Bellof, it was Jurgen Lassig in the blue and white Obermaier 956. Bellof was a Porsche works driver in 1984 so he wasn't participating in this race due to the factory team's boycott.
@@marcelk3847 FISA had announced that they would allow IMSA cars into the world championship and use their sliding scale rules for weight balanced to engine size rather than the fuel allocation basis group c was using. After spending a fortune on developing the 956 for group c for several years, Porsche chose to miss LeMans as a protest. FISA subsequently dropped the planned changes for 1985.
Brilliant stuff from when the ciruit was in it's best layout.The same race when the Aston Martin Nimrod cars crashed at the kink.Sad that Richard,David Leslie and others died in a plane crash in 2008.Rip.
@@juniormichelesperant6372 And without a draft! Did you see him pass Jurgen Lassig about 1/3 down the Mulsanne? Nowadays you'd ride behind him for half the straight then whip out and around but not these guys. I'm a little perplexed, honestly, as to how they could pull that off.
Yes it's one of the Preston Henn's Porsches . A strong contender who finished 2nd ( with Jean Rondeau at the wheel ! ! ! ) . The "camera" Porsche #16 was heavier than the sister car #14 and could not play for the win . Both cars were entered by Richard Lloyd and the #14 was a fast Porsche 956 in 83 and 84 .
@@gliderfs621 - In French it's known as "Ligne Droite des Hunadieres" which translates to the English language as the "Mulsanne Straight." Yes, Circuit De La Sarthe is in France.
Heading to the Classic this year and planning to take some Hi8 camera and good mic. Something about modern video that just doesn’t capture the speed. Every year I come back and look at the videos from iPhones etc with disappointment!
Back when Le Mans was Le Mans… wish they’d eliminate the chicanes now lol. Make this race all about speed & endurance like it used to be. Edit: endurance through speed 🤔 that sounds better
So your actually want people die? A 200mph crash is no joke and some of these cars are known to reach speeds way pass 200mph..they'd probably took off like an airplane..that's probably why they added the chicanes to prevent deaths
I didn't think about it until now but it's kind of silly that they fixed Maisson Blanche I believe for safety reasons but didn't change the Mulsanne for years until 1988.
Chaque année il y avait un ( des ) problemes de pneus qui eclataient à ces vitesses . Sauber Mercedes declara forfait en 1988 suite à un eclatement aux essais que Michelin ne put expliquer . En 1989 les Aston Martin etaient equipées de capteurs de chaleur derriere les roues avant ( échaudés par l'accident de 1984 ) .
That was the Swap Shop 956 driven by Rondeau and Paul Jnr, it qualified a few places further back in the mid 20s on the grid just behind the RLR camera car but ended up finishing 2nd overall.
If you look very carefully you can see me in the pits.... well maybe not, but I was there working... :-))
I zoomed in, and still couldn't see you, even at quarter speed. Sorry
@@colinashby3775 Did you see the Hawaiian Tropic girls .... Boy they were cute.... :-))
@@shirleyboy8859 let me check again
May be possible that I have a picture of you in my Book of 24 du mans 1983...🎉🎉
@@sgtmiklin Sorry was not there in 83.... I was in 84 looking after a Lola T 610.... I have been told I am in the 84 book but I have never seen one.... :-))
The speed going into mulsanne and how far away he was braking. Love the commentary .
It's amazing how many times they've changed that circuit over the years. No chicane at the Dunlop bridge, the forest esses, the REAL Mulsanne Straight... thanks for uploading this.
I don’t really care about the old Mulsanne. TBH, this was as good as it got, with a bit of slipstreaming. It really doesn’t take a lot of skill to drive on a 5.8 km straight. What I really miss is the old Dunlop Curve and the run down to the Esses. That took a good car, plenty of guts and good skills.
@@thethirdman225 its not about the skill on the straight. Its about the teams building cars that could do 250+ on it
@@thethirdman225 really try looking at the start of the 1986 Race as Vern Schuppan {Factory 962} tackles Oscar Larruri {Fortuna 962}down that straight the cars are all over the place, civvy road bups wind pushing on the cars , proper driving and drafting to attack
@@Louzahsol I don’t think that’s very important.
@@Quadrant14 Yes, I remember it.
My second year at Le Mans. The first was 1981. I managed to persuade my wife to come with me in 2001 on the promise the weather would be as glorious as this video shows. Unfortunately it p**sed down the whole weekend and we never went back 😢. Thanks for the lovely memories though ❤
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how do you "experience" this as audience? you don't sit and watch for 24h straight, do you?
Great video! Basically every car on the track is an absolute classic, La Sarthe is in its proper layout, mid-race driver commentary, and dear lord those turbo and engine sounds.
Brilliant stuff ! The quality of the pictures is one of the best I've ever seen on an old 80's footage. The Mulsanne straight without it's chicanes looks both scary and incredible !
Thank you very much for uploading this ! :)
Agreed, the sad thing is that the changes to the circuit devalues IMO both the performance of both the cars and drivers and was a mistake.
Interesting about Richard Lloyd Racing: ua-cam.com/video/AUlvEkhaOHc/v-deo.html
The real name of the straight is « Hunaudières »
@@gliderfs621 I agree mate. That is it's real name but somehow the rest of the world call it the Mulsanne straight. Which is true in some ways because the town of Mulsanne is at the end of the straight.
I wouldn't call it mulsanne straight since it ain't straight anymore
Very moving. I was there age 14. Above the pits at Lucas Industries balcony. What memories ! Noise, smell....
I was in the crowd . First time abroad
I really miss the old circut.
The start of the golden era of Group C, i was a young boy (1972) and i loved/ love this cars, i was luky when i went in 1989 to see a friend racing in a 962. Today, i am proud to have seen this race ❤
You where really lucky to see that. I love this cars like you. This cars and this track together, with the original long straight, this was motor car racing, as I always imagined. The long gears hand shifted, this sound and the beauty of this cars, and you also had the smell of oil and race gasoline, at that time! Keep your memories as something like that will not come again in our lives I am afraid! ❤❤❤
@@sircharles7323 in France we have Macron 🙄, but we have le Mans, in 1989, we had le Mans, Dijon-Prenois and Magny Cours the same year, it was great 🎉🎉😊
I'm absolutely astonished at the fact that Pink Floyd's drummer is driving
he’s more into drumming then he is drums apparently
Nick Mason is the drummer Richard Lloyd is a guitarist
@@nicholasfriesen5031 Richard Wright was the keyboard player…
No he's not driving here.
Nick Mason drove the "Blue Kenwood". He finished 2 seasons and the went to rally. ua-cam.com/video/lvSUDErWmxE/v-deo.html
Good god those straight away speeds are terrifying. I was fascinated with these cars at the time. Saw an IMSA race with Geoff Brabham in the Nissan GTP and the amazing Group 44 4WD Audi Quattros.
Mulsanne, the only part of the race the drivers could relax. At 350 plus. Love it
the rush
Look at the crowds of people lining both sides of the track. Haven't seen it like that for many many years. These were the golden days, long gone and never to return unfortunately.
Rose tinted glasses. We always think that of by-gone eras.
@@SimonLX but he’s right though. It was simply better in nearly every way.
I beg you differ, as we now have a new golden age. The golden age of sportscar racing has return in Wec.
The only thing on the steering wheel is the word MOMO. God I miss these glorious machines.
Shifting these cars has got to be one of the most satisfying things ever
Indeed, they took all the spirit of driving from the racers with that electronic shift bullshit ....
OH MY Gosh! This is amazing! Thank you!!
The mulsanne straight in all it's glory. As it always should be.
Les Hunaudières. not mulsanne straight.
🙏 Thank You So Much for sharing this Le Mans 1984 Race when the Belgian Ace Driver Stefan Bellof was still alive ( Stefan Bellof sadly passed away in 1985 World Sportcar Championships round in Spa Francorchamp in a PORSCHE 956 or 962C ) >>> 🕯🌷🌿🌍💖🕊🇫🇷🇧🇪
Bellof was german.
The real Le Mans, when motorsports still excisted. Oh what a pleasure to see and hear it
ok
It still exists tho and the wec currently is great
1:30 typical german autobahn moment actually, you drive like 300 on the left lane and someone gets annoyed and overtakes on the right
great vid, looks like he was trying to preserve the car and get to the finish.
Great car and driver, amasing track before chicanes at Hunudieres - Mulsanne and amasing years!
I’ve been a fan of Le Mans since childhood in the late 1960s. I was 20 years old in 1984 and was blown away by Porsche domination of Group C with the legendary 956 and 962 ptypes. Le Mans still remains one of my greatest wish list items; to visit the town and attend the event, ogle the many fantastic and beautiful cars, and simply gorge on that famously well documented atmosphere. I live in Southern England yet still life manages to throws curved balls of every description at the most crucial moments. Quite pathetic considering that I live a relatively modest distance (compared to other Le Mans pilgrims) from that little town in France for the best part of 20 years. Now I wonder as I approach old age if I will ever make it there. Moreso now that Ferrari one of the most famous names in Le Manson history are once more at the top of the podium slaughtering all comers including Porsche in the Hypercar category. After a half century absence, the Ferrari return to glory reads better than any race car Hollywood script.
Driving those kind of speeds takes an insane amount of skill and commitment then you take into account there are probably 40-50 other cars out there traveling same speed and slower and at night it's actually incredible.
In a straight line looks like they'd give the modern stuff a run for it's money. Just the braking zones where you see modern aero, brakes & tyre technology has advanced.
A Group C car would get annihilated by a modern LMP. Too much turbo lag, long shifting, poor brakes, little mechanical grip, very difficult to drive. Maybe against a GTE but no way against a modern prototype.
A truly starght for truly drivers, not for "chikens"!
A truly straight for truly drivers, not for "chikens drivers", I mean! Sorry the error!
*_”Just the braking zones where you see modern aero, brakes and tyre technology has advanced.”_*
Yeah, all the important bits. That’s also the bit where the most skills are evident.
@@Artessnow he is talking straight line speed only mate...
That Mulsanne straight !!!!
Wow, Just WoW!!!!!!!!!!!
this is what racing games should felt like
Fantastic. Back when there were no "bus stops" on the Mulsanne and the grid was filled with Porsche prototypes.
Everybody who saw this live was really lucky. I love this cars and this track together, with the original long straight. This was motor car racing, as I always imagined. The long gears, hand shifted, this sound and the beauty of this cars and the smell of oil and race gasoline, at that time! Something like that will not come again in our age of digital plastic electric datalysis crisis homo medialus ...
WOW Man what a blast....give me excess of it.
Excellent! Better video quality then the Derek Bell clip I've always watched.
Didn't know that Mason drove at this level. Very impressive. Impressive, too, at Olympia Stadium in Detroit, late June '75...
He sure did. I think that’s Richard Lloyd driving though.
Absolutely fantastic! The first lap and he says “The brakes are appalling”😳...Is that Stefan Bellof jousting with him initially? Must buy the dvd.
Meh...they needed to get some heat in them.
Even back then they knew the brakes were bad lol
It's not Bellof, it was Jurgen Lassig in the blue and white Obermaier 956. Bellof was a Porsche works driver in 1984 so he wasn't participating in this race due to the factory team's boycott.
@@marks7197why the boycott?
@@marcelk3847 FISA had announced that they would allow IMSA cars into the world championship and use their sliding scale rules for weight balanced to engine size rather than the fuel allocation basis group c was using. After spending a fortune on developing the 956 for group c for several years, Porsche chose to miss LeMans as a protest. FISA subsequently dropped the planned changes for 1985.
Progressive scan CCD camera, wavy images from the vibration. Action video from the 80's!
Thanks 👍👍👍
Love this video
So cool! Thanks
I love the Dunlop Bridge, any Le Mans onboard has it, from Mike Hawthorn's 1958 onboard, to this, it's so iconic, it has a Wiki page of it's own.
I could never drive a car like this but man would I love to.
Gold.
Brilliant stuff from when the ciruit was in it's best layout.The same race when the Aston Martin Nimrod cars crashed at the kink.Sad that Richard,David Leslie and others died in a plane crash in 2008.Rip.
No BoP ! it was all about the engineering of the car .
The real racing cars, the real 24 Heures du Mans ❗👍💪🏎️🏁🤓🇨🇵
Excelente gran piloto y caballero
This is actually insanity
That is amazingly fast
The nostalgia hit harder than my grandma down the stairs.
BRing these mental cars back.
1:06-1:40, 220-240 mph
Yet he still got overtaken by another faster car right before he hits the mulsanne corner lol
@@juniormichelesperant6372 And without a draft! Did you see him pass Jurgen Lassig about 1/3 down the Mulsanne? Nowadays you'd ride behind him for half the straight then whip out and around but not these guys. I'm a little perplexed, honestly, as to how they could pull that off.
@@one0nine indeed. .
Yes it's one of the Preston Henn's Porsches . A strong contender who finished 2nd ( with Jean Rondeau at the wheel ! ! ! ) . The "camera" Porsche #16 was heavier than the sister car #14 and could not play for the win . Both cars were entered by Richard Lloyd and the #14 was a fast Porsche 956 in 83 and 84 .
What I wouldn't give for a go in that thing.
Look's good with no two chicane
Shame the sweary bit at the start wasn't included! I was there working in Richard's team. Great days for sportscar racing.
This circuit with the mulsanne straight is the best.
NOW THAT'S A MULSANNE STRAIGHT!!!
The real name is « Hunaudières » and not mulsanne
@@gliderfs621 - In French it's known as "Ligne Droite des Hunadieres" which translates to the English language as the "Mulsanne Straight."
Yes, Circuit De La Sarthe is in France.
Yea I don't why they still call it that nowadays..it ain't even straight anymore
Think this clip was also on a Front Runner video called Ticket To Ride?
amazingly soft hands
Holy fuck there’s people everywhere
Looks like a rally car race.
really wish they would get rid of those damn chicanes down the Mulsanne
In project cars 2 it feels so similar wow
Oooh the 956
"Brakes are appalling."
No filter - just lunatics behind the wheel.
When the mulsanne straight was straight..
Heading to the Classic this year and planning to take some Hi8 camera and good mic. Something about modern video that just doesn’t capture the speed. Every year I come back and look at the videos from iPhones etc with disappointment!
Back when the Mulsanne straight was actually a straight.
Man that car sticks
I'm not sure how I didn't notice this one on the channel before.
I miss these days, before technology became so advanced that it's hard to tell the real thing from a video game.
"I said 'slow down, I see spots'
The lines on the road just look like dots!"
Back when Le Mans was Le Mans… wish they’d eliminate the chicanes now lol. Make this race all about speed & endurance like it used to be.
Edit: endurance through speed 🤔 that sounds better
So your actually want people die? A 200mph crash is no joke and some of these cars are known to reach speeds way pass 200mph..they'd probably took off like an airplane..that's probably why they added the chicanes to prevent deaths
FISA: How much Hunaudieres do you want?
Drivers: Yes
They seems so slow and tame around the corners, but totaly unhinged on the straights compared to todays LMP cars.
Just imagine a C9 hunting you down through the Mulsanne Kink while you'r already doing +370...
I think modern WEC prototypes can handle this layout
I didn't think about it until now but it's kind of silly that they fixed Maisson Blanche I believe for safety reasons but didn't change the Mulsanne for years until 1988.
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sa roulait trop vite
Chaque année il y avait un ( des ) problemes de pneus qui eclataient à ces vitesses . Sauber Mercedes declara forfait en 1988 suite à un eclatement aux essais que Michelin ne put expliquer . En 1989 les Aston Martin etaient equipées de capteurs de chaleur derriere les roues avant ( échaudés par l'accident de 1984 ) .
Jesus.. how long was the mulsanne straight back then before the chicanes
3.5 miles/6 kilometres
@@coleorum oh okay it looks infinite.. its like highway
Bruh ..
is this the canon porsche?
If my memory is correct, terrible quality of gas for those machines
was the serious problem.
Am I right?
The contaminated gas was a issue in the 1986 race.
Wow no bus stops then? Cool.
I was there.
The great era: no chicanes, no FCY, just 2600 L of fuel for the race.
Ugh...somehow the old Hunaudières terrifies me anew every time I see it
That is how I drive to work everyday....
When you are at + 330Km/h.....and get passed by something way faster.....
That was the Swap Shop 956 driven by Rondeau and Paul Jnr, it qualified a few places further back in the mid 20s on the grid just behind the RLR camera car but ended up finishing 2nd overall.
Why don’t they play before the start when the four letter words are flying
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You thought he was going fast until 1min 30 secs.
My 2nd favorite Le Mans car and favorite Porsche by a long shot (their street cars are awkward and obnoxious)
Is it me or does it sound like he's shifting at about 2500 revs?!
シケイン無しのユノディエール・・・超長い！
Joest Racing wins '84/'85 back to back...
Nur fliegen ist schöner !!!
The ca is good, but where r the eggs.
LeMans with chicanes in the Mulsanne, isn't LeMans.
No chicane
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at 1.30 someone still maintain full throttle