Double Glazing! The Little unknown Truths.

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  • @guywalsh1807
    @guywalsh1807 2 роки тому +19

    I like this guy.he doesn't draw out explanations as is direct and gives you the info you need quickly whereas others would take an hour to say what he has in basically 10 mins. Thank you!

  • @GrahamHunt-b3r
    @GrahamHunt-b3r 4 місяці тому +3

    Well, this is a refreshing factual presentation on sealed units. Best one I’ve seen it’s about time

  • @SirMorak
    @SirMorak 2 роки тому +3

    Thanks for this full explanation about double glazing windows 👍

  • @soulacoustic9235
    @soulacoustic9235 2 роки тому +32

    Ok wow. This was a phenomenally well explained and well structured video! Even if you put the content aside, I love how clear and well structured the presentation was! If science channels on youtube explained things like this it would help people understand much quicker. Amazing work!

  • @josephlai9759
    @josephlai9759 Рік тому +3

    Thank you very much, Joseph. Your explanation is excellent.

  • @jamesdoolan980
    @jamesdoolan980 28 днів тому +1

    Top class,= and totally to the point explanation!

  • @amrmasoud6156
    @amrmasoud6156 6 місяців тому +1

    this guy changed my knowledge about what I know for Windows, very talented Thank you!

  • @jerrysmagic007
    @jerrysmagic007 2 роки тому +5

    Learned a lot, thank you it was very well explained. This is what I was looking for.

  • @ahbeng888
    @ahbeng888 3 роки тому +21

    Some of our Australian standards are truly world class. In the case of our building/construction code and glazing requirements we are well and truly behind the eight ball.

    • @aaronc3032
      @aaronc3032 Місяць тому +1

      3 years on still much the same, a true shame.

  • @watchingwatches2758
    @watchingwatches2758 3 роки тому +3

    Good to see you are back creating quality content.

  • @vincewardill
    @vincewardill 3 роки тому +11

    Thank you Joseph for your wonderful insights on this subject. I agree with a lot of your thoughts and opinions on this subject that not all double glazing is created equal.
    Key points:-
    - Cold aluminium window frames (non-thermally broken) do perform very poorly thermally,
    - The optimal space between the glass is between 12mm & 14mm,
    - Argon being the ideal next level performing gas for IGU's (Insulating Glass Units) more commonly known as Double Glazing,
    - Air seals and airtightness being super important in helping achieve optimal energy performance through correct installation of windows into the building envelope,
    - Tight seals on windows being critical. etc.
    Aluminium Windows, unfortunately, get a bad rap generally but like double glazing, not all Aluminium Windows are created equal.
    Thermally Broken Aluminium Windows are amongst some of the highest performing windows in the world. So not all aluminium windows are bad. Yes, uPVC Windows perform exceptionally well but their sustainability credentials are really bad. Thermally Broken Aluminium Windows, like all aluminium, can be recycled at end of life. uPVC cannot easily.
    In addition to the window frame, the spacer as you said is super important. Unfortunately, the Insulglass Double Glazed unit that you use in your video from AGG (Australia Glass Group) does not contain a foam spacer and in fact, contains a Plastic Hybrid Stainless Steel spacer. These are in my opinion, superior to foam spacers.
    The main points of difference being:-
    - Plastic Hybrid Stainless Steel spacers and Foam Spacer thermal performance is almost identical with the Foam Spacer just winning by a nose.
    - Foam Spacer has an integrated desiccant that is supposedly designed to absorb condensation that forms inside your IGU (Double glazing). This amount is a substantially smaller amount for Foam Spacers, when compared to the amount that a Plastic Hybrid Stainless Steel spacer can hold, which makes a Plastic Hybrid Stainless Steel spacer more superior in this instance.
    - The actual primary seal (PIB or Butyl) that seals the edge of a spacer is just as a critical component as any. Foam Spacers typically fail at this junction commonly when compared to Plastic Hybrid Stainless Steel spacers which typically do not fail.
    You don't want to be paying for Argon only to lose it quicker than you should due to the failure of your foam spacer.
    Other than these points, keep up the great work of promoting higher performance for all buildings in the Australian market.

    • @josephcheung3964
      @josephcheung3964 3 роки тому +1

      Excellent feedback Vince. It would be good if you can share any comparative table between various spacers so I can include that in the next instalment of the video.

    • @jonathanlagreze5416
      @jonathanlagreze5416 2 роки тому

      @@josephcheung3964 hi Joseph, I was looking for the correct type of butyl for my homemade double pane glass. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank You

  • @higguma
    @higguma 3 роки тому +2

    Masterful video. Much thanks to you and the team.

  • @woodragger
    @woodragger Рік тому +1

    aye mate. Noice video. I recently met up with two different window companies. Neither of whom knew about the U Factor. I have known about since the 80s and guys are coming up blank

  • @gregcorwin8316
    @gregcorwin8316 Рік тому +2

    Really good presentation, lots of information very well presented, but I would debate the perceived advantages of foam and other non-metallic spacers versus thin wall stainless in long term performance and durability, and "edge of glass" is 62.5mm from the actual edge (into the face of the lite), while "center of glass" is the entire glass surface that is not within 62.5mm from the edge rather than a vague circle in the middle of the glass face.

  • @cynthiaarmstrong7972
    @cynthiaarmstrong7972 Рік тому +1

    Excellent descriptions!

  • @ahobimo732
    @ahobimo732 3 роки тому +11

    My parents recently purchased a large (roughly 3 feet by 6 feet) picture window. My dad and I installed it. It was triple paned, with argon in both voids, and a lowE coating on all 3 panes. The frame was vinyl (PVC). We get pretty cold winters here (Eastern Canada). One night in February, I got out my temperature gun and checked to see how much heat was being lost through the window. It was actually warmer than the WALLS of their house. I was amazed.

    • @ecoevo
      @ecoevo  3 роки тому +1

      No insulation in the walls?

    • @ahobimo732
      @ahobimo732 3 роки тому +2

      @@ecoevo They have fibreglass batting in 2x4 framing. And I think there are multiple layers of sheathing (plywood or chipboard), plus vinyl siding. The walls were reading about 19-20 degrees Celsius, while the window was 21-22.

    • @ecoevo
      @ecoevo  3 роки тому +1

      @@ahobimo732 Are those Temperatures taking into account Emissivity?

    • @krisgorr3439
      @krisgorr3439 2 роки тому +1

      @@ahobimo732 2x4 so it's an old house or cottage? Also in winter the R value cuts in half when -10 degrees. fyi.

  • @Kingboo1081
    @Kingboo1081 Рік тому +4

    I went from double glazed to single and the difference in the temperature regulation inside is extreme.
    The same with regards to condensation and mould issues.
    Thankfully I’m moving back to a new home with double glazed.

    • @jimmoran973
      @jimmoran973 9 місяців тому +1

      The difference is about 100%.

  • @MichaelJeffrey
    @MichaelJeffrey 3 роки тому +2

    Excellent video

  • @katwat8682
    @katwat8682 Рік тому

    was there ever a part 2 that discusses glass thickness, tinting , and coatings as mentioned 08:50 ?

  • @strongestccp
    @strongestccp Рік тому +1

    Great video!!

  • @kashifjillani
    @kashifjillani 2 роки тому

    best video to explain something. Good work

  • @giovanniscalia3420
    @giovanniscalia3420 7 місяців тому

    Increíble video !!!! Love it one of the best I have seen

  • @bluetech2809
    @bluetech2809 3 роки тому

    Finally a video on windows that doesn't come across as condescending/patronizing.

  • @outinthesticks1035
    @outinthesticks1035 3 роки тому +2

    I had double thermopane wood frame . Went to triple pane argon with a reflective film , three piece pvc frames . I would never go back , but we get more - 40 days than +30 ones

  • @raizdaither5622
    @raizdaither5622 Рік тому

    @ecoevo
    Very good and clear video. Thank you! Where can i find he video about the thikness and kind of glass? Thank you!

  • @amparchitect
    @amparchitect 10 місяців тому

    Hi! Looking for the 2nd video on glazing? Thanks!

  • @paulf1071
    @paulf1071 Рік тому

    Great info here!
    Anybody know where to find the second part of this video he referenced (covering glass material, coating and tints)?

  • @johnzach2057
    @johnzach2057 2 роки тому

    Wow. So much info!

  • @rossmcleod7983
    @rossmcleod7983 3 роки тому +8

    Excellent info, much appreciated. Today I went and checked out polycarbonate microcell panels as a double glazing alternative. You lose the view, and a fair percentage of light, but get a good u value at a third of the cost. Curious if you think it has a place in the residential universe?

  • @hfhgfe
    @hfhgfe Рік тому

    I have another question: would putting a plexiglass right on the exterior of my window, would that amplify sounds from the traffic?

  • @minkotter1242
    @minkotter1242 2 роки тому

    The video was really good ... Thnx

  • @RinzSach
    @RinzSach 2 місяці тому

    Interesting, just had 4 glass units replaced and didnt ask questions, i can see in my house some windows are foam spacer some stainless or aluminium. Don't really mind personally. Some of my double glazing is only 1mm gap probably really inefficient but will i ever save on energy bill if i get new window ?...probably not

  • @ericong9876
    @ericong9876 3 роки тому

    Very informative video, where are 2nd video to talk about glass type?

  • @edwardofernando2763
    @edwardofernando2763 3 роки тому +1

    Was about to ask about window tinting haha keen for the next one!

    • @chefgav1
      @chefgav1 3 роки тому

      A lot more cost effective and much better ROI. Double glazing you will never see a ROI in a retrofit

    • @garylane9586
      @garylane9586 9 місяців тому +1

      Just out of interest regarding window / glass tinting
      I’ve wrote a couple articles printed in the “ The Owner Builder “ magazine ( Australia) edition 180& 181 2013/2014 you may like to read up
      The editor cut back my initial 6000 -7000 worded article to about 2000 words so taken a lot the “meat “ out of the article with a few mistaken edits thrown in .
      But may offer a bit more in-depth info
      From my 45 years in the industry here in Australia ( particularly here in Tasmania)
      Getting the right product to suit the appropriate glazing can be very beneficial . So as much technical info can be helpful on both glass and after market solar filming
      Unfortunately a lot of miss info going around

  • @chrisk7118
    @chrisk7118 2 роки тому

    Very good, thanks

  • @DanSoussi
    @DanSoussi 2 роки тому +1

    I did not hear mention vacuum sealed double glazed windows. There is no heat transfer through a vacuum good for sound insulation, too). Same idea that’s used in your favourite thermal drink bottle.

    • @MrHavokman
      @MrHavokman Рік тому +1

      I'm pretty sure you can't have vacuum sealed glazing as the panes suck together

    • @gregcorwin8316
      @gregcorwin8316 Рік тому

      @@MrHavokman vacuum glazing systems use tiny spacers about 25mm or so to hold the glass lites apart. They work but they are visible and can be annoying to some people.

  • @thunderpop20
    @thunderpop20 2 роки тому

    Where looking to get the sliding door done

  • @sergeystaritsin7736
    @sergeystaritsin7736 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the informational video. Would you recommend triple glazed windows over double glazed ones in Melbourne? What U-value should I target? Thanks.

    • @ecoevo
      @ecoevo  2 роки тому +1

      You want to go for the lowest U value you can afford. There is no particular U value that we can recommend, because it’s all decided on budget.

    • @ecoevo
      @ecoevo  2 роки тому +1

      As a rule of thumb, for a good performing thermal performance, you want your window to be half the R value of your wall R value. But this can be expensive, and may not even be available in Australia. The alternative could be, reduce your window size.

  • @garyt.5195
    @garyt.5195 2 роки тому

    regarding to the energy saving item ,i think the glass play the important part ,esp.the U-value for warm save and SC value for heat-resistance . learned one kind of high performance low E glass which called Optilite S1.16 had been installed on so many windows in New Zealand . if u are interesting in it , pleasure to talk more with u later .

  • @thunderpop20
    @thunderpop20 2 роки тому

    Does make it warmers inside at winter here

  • @minkasound
    @minkasound 3 роки тому

    Very informative. Thank You!

  • @geletmote
    @geletmote 2 роки тому

    What do you guys think of Eco Star Double Glazing, are they any good?

  • @united3689
    @united3689 3 роки тому

    This was so well explained! Never knew anything before watching this i feel like a pro! hah

    • @ecoevo
      @ecoevo  3 роки тому

      Thank you United!

  • @ce5890
    @ce5890 2 роки тому

    Great vid, thanks

  • @9yards333
    @9yards333 Рік тому

    I am curious to know if the foam superspacer would seriously degrade from constant sun light?

    • @gregcorwin8316
      @gregcorwin8316 Рік тому

      superspacer less than some other foam or non-metallic spacers, but more susceptible to UV or solar heat degradation than metallic or hybrid spacer syetems.

  • @ellenyang1160
    @ellenyang1160 3 роки тому

    Great video, thank you!

  • @TH3_C4PYBARA
    @TH3_C4PYBARA Рік тому

    Thank you so much

  • @shanghainesetv3992
    @shanghainesetv3992 2 роки тому

    If will be great if you can also post some videos in Cantonese! Looking forward to it!

    • @josephcheung3964
      @josephcheung3964 2 роки тому

      I would love to do that. However, our target audience is the English speaking community. Also, the climate condition and the corresponding design considerations are very different from the climate here in Victoria, Australia. If you are interested in our content, we can negotiate some kind of licencing arrangements that you can do voice over in Mandarin or Cantonese or Shanghainese. I just need to review the scripts in Chinese.

  • @sup1ch
    @sup1ch 3 роки тому

    Thank you!

  • @reallivingtv1662
    @reallivingtv1662 3 роки тому

    Any opinions about double glazing a static caravan?

  • @AndyMaherVoicePro
    @AndyMaherVoicePro 2 роки тому +2

    Hi, I've recently discovered your channel and I think it's brilliant!
    In southeast Australia's relatively mild climate (compared to parts of Europe or North America where winter days of -40 celsius are common), how big a difference do uPVC frames make, as opposed to Aluminium?

    • @ecoevo
      @ecoevo  2 роки тому +2

      www.upvcwindows.org.au/technical-info.html
      Based on the windows design the performance can vary a lot. But this will give you an idea.

  • @torocsikm89
    @torocsikm89 Рік тому +1

    You are using double glazed only? In europe triple glazed is standard now.

    • @adamb70
      @adamb70 6 місяців тому

      We know! Double glazing isn't even standard in Australia :( I would say 80+% of homes use single-pane 3mm - 4.5mm glass here. Double glazing is a luxury and don't even think about triple glazing (considering the cost to retrofit DG into a standard 4BR home is generally north of $30,000)

  • @mathewmunro3770
    @mathewmunro3770 9 місяців тому

    What about CO2 filled windows in cold climates?

  • @ciaranroc
    @ciaranroc 3 роки тому

    I love this guy

    • @w8mpx667
      @w8mpx667 3 роки тому

      Hey I saw him first

    • @rongti5543
      @rongti5543 9 місяців тому

      @@w8mpx667 LOL

  • @guy4462
    @guy4462 6 місяців тому +1

    It doesn't matter, as soon as the seal breaks and the gas escapes the condensation moves in and the window becomes foggy... it always happens.

  • @react1200
    @react1200 2 роки тому

    Building historic windows, how much of a difference in heat gain (window faces sun in later afternoon until sunset) between single pane and a double glaze with 1/4" spacer (1/2 total)?

    • @jimmoran973
      @jimmoran973 9 місяців тому

      The rough estimate is 50% but a 1/4" space you will be less.

  • @maxheadrom3088
    @maxheadrom3088 2 роки тому

    Nice video! What would you recommend for nothern Australia climate? I'm in Brazil, near São Paulo - but already enterring a region called "Peripheral Depression" that is lower than the Ocean Ridge (Serra do Mar) and quite a bit warmer - and I think thqat would be similar to Northern Australia. Thanks!
    One observation about sound: depending on the gap used a double glass windows will perform even worse than a single glass unit because of some phenomenon I actually can't explain ... lol. The guy who taught me that when I was doing audio engineering, however, is a pro!

    • @ecoevo
      @ecoevo  2 роки тому

      Resonance perhaps. Depending on the sound frequency. 👍🏻. In northern Australian climates you would want SHGC to be as low as possible, balanced with how much visible light you can get into your home.

  • @jimmoran973
    @jimmoran973 9 місяців тому

    The impact of the spacer bar is minuscule. He way over plays that and doesn't say it tends to seal failures.

  • @davidgreen424
    @davidgreen424 3 роки тому

    I was told and read that Argon leaks out eventually, is the performance Vs cost and eventual loss of performance worth it ?

    • @ecoevo
      @ecoevo  3 роки тому +1

      It does!

  • @firstlast-cs6eg
    @firstlast-cs6eg 2 роки тому

    You didn't cover the topic of vacuum between the two panels instead of argon etc.

    • @josephcheung3964
      @josephcheung3964 2 роки тому

      vacuum glass is not commonly used in Australia. Personally, I am not a big fan of vacuum glass for general purposes for a few reasons:
      1. similar to krypton, the optimal spacing will lead to a substantial reduction in performance when the product ages and leaks.
      2. vacuum glass is more prone to bending compares to gas-filled DGU due to the pressure difference. especially for larger glass panes.
      3. vacuum glass aged faster than inert gas-filled glass due to the pressure at the seal.
      for a window system that has multiple layers, having some vacuum layer(s) is good because we need to squeeze every bit of performance out of the system.

  • @JiahaoLin
    @JiahaoLin 3 роки тому

    What's the smoke blowing device you use to test airseal called ?

    • @naamvoornaam6583
      @naamvoornaam6583 2 роки тому

      I had to buy a DJ smoke machine for that 😅 But I do not recommend it, to blows too hard and the smoke is not dense enough

  • @Ransomed77
    @Ransomed77 3 роки тому

    Thanks!

  • @Len02013
    @Len02013 3 роки тому +3

    Thanks, that’s great info

  • @agfdsa123
    @agfdsa123 3 роки тому

    What's that black stuff between the glazing?

    • @ecoevo
      @ecoevo  3 роки тому +2

      The spacer?

  • @hfhgfe
    @hfhgfe Рік тому

    Does anyone know how many mm is ideal for noise reduction on a double paned??

    • @ecoevo
      @ecoevo  Рік тому +1

      The wider the better, I’d say.

    • @hfhgfe
      @hfhgfe Рік тому

      @@ecoevo would 6mm work,?

    • @ecoevo
      @ecoevo  Рік тому +1

      @@hfhgfe no, 16mm plus

    • @gregcorwin8316
      @gregcorwin8316 Рік тому

      I would look at 25mm or more space for sound reduction, but that width will also negatively affect energy performance.
      That's where triple panes offer an advantage. A triple pane with two 12.5mm airspaces would result in 25mm overall airspace - good for sound reduction (especially using different thickness glass for the center lite), while the two separate 12.5mm airspaces are individually perfect width for energy performance.

  • @beatoppikofer-adventureand5819
    @beatoppikofer-adventureand5819 3 роки тому +1

    where are the passive house windows? that are the only window we need in Australia ........
    the australian u-value is the US u-value;

    therefore German 1.2W/m2K x 1.1 (factor to compare) = Australian U-value full window 1.32 W/m2K
    do you have a window with that u-value?

    • @josephcheung3964
      @josephcheung3964 3 роки тому

      Ultimately, I agree, all windows for habitable buildings should be passive house quality, provided they are affordable. It is like I would love to drive the latest model-s but my bank account said a very firm "NO!!" to me. Plus, we don't sell windows or glazing units.

    • @beatoppikofer-adventureand5819
      @beatoppikofer-adventureand5819 3 роки тому +2

      @@josephcheung3964 we need to build up same factory, as they have in Europe, than it is very cheap ........ we need to take out the big profit margins; without doing some things to the products (in Canberra i was finding; 20%, 30%, 40%, and more; builders put this margin on top of the trades subcontractors price; plumbing, electrians, kitchens, etc. .... we need to charge only the real hours used to manufacture and supply products .....

  • @DIYGuy85
    @DIYGuy85 3 роки тому +1

    Why is this not the most watched video on windows?

    • @ecoevo
      @ecoevo  3 роки тому

      More comments, will help drive the algorithm. 😉

  • @AceroCarbono
    @AceroCarbono 3 роки тому

    9:39 just a reminder for me that this is a key part

  • @KJSvitko
    @KJSvitko 3 роки тому +5

    European style doors and windows are superior products. They have nailed the glazing and the sealing systems.

    • @gregcorwin8316
      @gregcorwin8316 Рік тому

      European glazing systems are in no way superior to North American glazing systems, but European frames tend to be thicker and more robust for generally better air infiltration performance.

  • @a22258461
    @a22258461 2 роки тому

    Nice

  • @magicassassin1947
    @magicassassin1947 3 роки тому

    I don't quite understand about the argon and crypto thing? Does it mean these gases are already placed inside the glass? Or these gases are inside the glazing film?

    • @magicassassin1947
      @magicassassin1947 3 роки тому +1

      Oh I understand now. The window have two glass that are placed distant with each other where in the gap gas are placed wether it's normal gas, argon gas or crypton gas. Very informative sir😍

    • @magicassassin1947
      @magicassassin1947 3 роки тому

      Guys Heres what it looks like the use of gas in-between glass

    • @magicassassin1947
      @magicassassin1947 3 роки тому

      ua-cam.com/video/vTPBxxu4O5k/v-deo.html

  • @rachelkoiks
    @rachelkoiks 3 роки тому

    So basically, I know absolutely nothing about windows. Well, I guess I’ll be spending the rest of my night learning what I can.

  • @judahatkinson5985
    @judahatkinson5985 3 роки тому +1

    Why are you talking about wendows?

  • @ultimobile
    @ultimobile 6 місяців тому +1

    yebbit emma chisit ?

  • @funeralgiggle3771
    @funeralgiggle3771 Місяць тому

    I don’t know why every time I hear windows, I say 98 in my mind.

  • @snake21ab
    @snake21ab 2 роки тому

    But there is a triple glazing too , which is even better.

  • @ianspaintpot
    @ianspaintpot Рік тому

    glass in neither a liguid or solid it is amorphous soild this is why when glass is removed from buildings that is hundrens of years old it is thicker at the bottom than the top.
    this is all doen to gravity.
    for all you geeks out there
    amorphous solid the atoms and molecules are not organized in a definite lattice unlike say steel ect

  • @grtomaz
    @grtomaz 9 місяців тому

    triple glazing is right thing

  • @abigaildawn2996
    @abigaildawn2996 Рік тому

    3/4 of you would fall asleep 😂

  • @thunderpop20
    @thunderpop20 2 роки тому +2

    Walk to pub

  • @cyrusp100
    @cyrusp100 4 місяці тому

    I would not recommend buying double glazed windows if you are doing a retrofit. It is very expensive and not really worth it.
    You can get much better performance with much cheaper solutions:
    1. Thick thermal curtains that are closed in the winter night and closed on really hot summer days
    2. Decidous trees and vines to block the hot summer sun and allow the winter light in.

    • @josephcheung8311
      @josephcheung8311 3 місяці тому

      I am kind of agree with you. Provided you don’t have condensation issue. Thick curtain and drapes cannot stop moisture from condensing on the cold windows.

  • @ubacow7109
    @ubacow7109 Рік тому

    If you want something even better than gas in your windows, then you should look into vacuum sealed glass, no gas means no convection and the r value is immensely boosted. In addition low-e is a scam, ceramic coating does a far better job than low e glass. You can buy a ceramic tint and slap that on your windows the same as the ones people use on cars and you will get far greater ir insulation than low-e. The window industry overall has pretty BS and overpriced technology

    • @jimmoran973
      @jimmoran973 9 місяців тому

      Vacuum sealing doesn't even exist outside of experimental companies. Ceramic film is a separate expense and very costly compared to Lowe/Argon.

  • @michaelchoong9638
    @michaelchoong9638 2 роки тому

    Talk too slow

    • @ecoevo
      @ecoevo  2 роки тому +1

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  • @gonchi69
    @gonchi69 7 місяців тому

    Is every window film suitable to double glazing windows for heat isolation?

    • @ecoevo
      @ecoevo  7 місяців тому +1

      We have a video, that we are editing now, as a follow up video to this one. ☺️

  • @SirMorak
    @SirMorak 2 роки тому

    Thanks for this full explanation about double glazing windows 👍

  • @nicholasdworcowyi5735
    @nicholasdworcowyi5735 3 роки тому

    Very informative, thank you so much.