They always blame the chick. John and Yoko, Kurt and Courtney. They don't think Yoko killed him obviously but they think she ruined his life. They always blame the chick.
good ol' patriarchy. it makes me so sick since i've been watching courtney's interviews for a while and 80% the comments are: "she killed kurt". majorly thanks to that damn soaked in bleech doc shit, but it's not like people only realized this theory now so, yeah it sucks.
She knew Kurt's inner most thoughts, his ways, his deep dark secrets, etc. so people will hate her until the end of time because they never got that close to him, never knew him in that way. So tell me, how did Courtney get what she wanted? She lost Frances' father and her husband. It wasn't about the money, it's about any other woman in the world who lives that type of lifestyle and looses their spouse to suicide. Just because Courtney is a musician, it doesn't make her immune to pain. I love her, and always will! Kurt wanted a strong woman, and he got one.
She was super panicked about losing Kurts money, she said it herself in the recordings, that "money isn't a problem - well it will be if we get a divorce".. And she pushed Kurt hard to perform shows he didn't want to do because of the huge payouts he would get. You can love Courtney but don't pretend she didn't care about Kurts money and the fame he brought to her. She wanted to be rich and famous under any circumstances. It was more important to her than anything else
Music was so much better in the 90s. I wish I could go back in time and see a lot of the 90s bands that I still listen to today. Some of them are still out there but to see them live in their prime... I can’t imagine how incredible that must’ve been.
@@svonkie Then you were obviously a loser then and a loser now. The 90s were wild times. In my opinion, it was the best decade for music ever... Kids of today will never know or realize how good life was without the internet and mobile phones. You don't know what you got until it's gone.
Just my two cents (since the majority of the comments are referencing the murder theory and Soaked in Bleach): - Kurt Cobain was going to DIVORCE Courtney Love. Fact. - Kurt Cobain was in the process of removing Courtney Love from his will. Fact. - Courtney Love filed the Missing Person Report pretending to be Wendy Cobain, citing "suicidal tendencies". Fact. Soaked in Bleach is definitely biased, but the recordings are UNMISTAKABLE. Did Courtney Love kill Kurt Cobain? I don't know. But the whole story is fishy, that's for sure. Very, VERY fishy.
Alex Raven Because all those things came from Courtneys mouth herself..Both her and Rosemary said he was looking into divorce. Rosemary mentioned the removal of Courtney from the will. And that Courtney filed the missing persons report and not Kurts mom. Most if not all of those things are on record coming directly from CL and Rosemary mouths on recording. It's all pretty damn suspicious considering Courtney told the media completely different stories
Well if she did, it was euthanasia. Kurt was lost. And if he didn't die Courtney wouldn't survive too. It was a toxic relationship. I totally feel for Courtney, I have to say.
@Rico Williams I know it's pretty sad to say so, but depression is a disease that kills people. Believe me, if you were lucky enough you never saw someone with a very severe case of depression. I had many toxic relationship with people that I wanted to "save", it was very hard to break with them and in the first case probably it would have been better if he just died. After 8 years he's still miserable, stuck in this tar pit. I feel for Courtney, because I feel everything she did, she did it to save both. I really don't know how to explain my point of view, I hope you were able to pinpoint it...
You don't know Charles Manson, so you can't judge him? Basically you're saying any person who you are not in direct contact with is out of bounds, regardless of their actions. Yeah, sounds logical.
I came here because someone mentioned how cold she was in this interview. She's not, she's fighting to continue her life, which is a very legitimate thing to do under those circumstances.
I’m confused why all these people are hating on Courtney. Like you clicked on a video about Courtney, I mean you know how she is. For what? Just to say that she killed her husband in the comments? I think that most people who clicked on this video know there are people out there that think she killed Kurt, so like why are you watching??
welcome to the collateral damage of the internet. where trolls tag anything hole/nirvana related to have a conspiracy circle jerk in the comment section and never go to therapy to discuss their 'theories' with professionals and do something constructive and positive with their lives. it's a qanonapalooza and we have failure p.i. tom grant, the k-mart alex jones, to unthank for that. the zombie apocalypse is here.
I was back to work one week after my husbands death because you need something. If you lay down and give in you may stop breathing and die. I cried every day, but I worked. People said go home but why what was at home besides my empty house with my husband not in it? Anyway after experiencing it I stopped buying into the Courtney conspiracy because she seems innocent to me, she truly loved him and that's clear. I was also accused of killing my husband after his suicide. Society stigmatizes the widows of suicides. It's rude and quite horrendous the things people have said to me and even more so to her.
Reading some comment threads I also said I'd get on with my life, and my husband told me to weeks before. Many of the comments I can directly interpret as a response to the way in which I dealt with the loss of my husband to which I would just like to say your all rude and thoughtless jerks.
I'm so so sorry for your loss. my heart is breaking reading your comment ,I can't&don't want to imagine the pain you've been through .for anyone who posted mean or hurtful comments they've obviously never had true love so they're the sad ones. I don't know your beliefs but I will pray for u right now&i hope since its been a few yrs since u commented that you are able to get through the day a lil bit easier. I wish you peace, healing & love. God bless you , be kind to urself. again I'm so very sorry .
People are jerks. They're in denial since fuckin 1994. Ffs, let the guy rest in peace and leave Courtney alone, she suffered enough pain for a lifetime by losing the love of her life.
Listen love I understand your story, and I am sorry to hear of what happened to you, but let's make no mistake about it Courtney is no innocent woman. She planned this till day one to have him murdered. Go watch 'soaked in bleach 2014' it's on youtube the Investigator she hired was Tom Grant and that was her biggest mistake because he said this was not suicide but murder. No way someone can inject 3 times the amount of heroin in there body and then pick pack away everything nicely then pick up the 20 gauge shot gun and blast themselves it's not possible, again sorry for your loss but not everyone has a story like you.
Courtney and Frances had personal relationships with Kurt, fans and haters did not. Courtney shared his bed, thoughts in his head, they were beyond close, in love, treated each other well. Kurt loved her. Loved her! They had a child together out of love. It's so easy for people to hate on a woman who's only crime was loving a suicidal addict, when their hero did this to himself. Courtney is beautiful here. Even though this is many years ago, she's still beautiful and part of her DNA and Kurts runs through Frances' veins.
Sonetta Skye Keeping up on whats realy happening must not be a strong suite for you, they were in process of a divorce, shes the only one that mentioned hes suicidal, no one else did. I guess you can trash a man who died just as easily as Courtney
+Zak Winters not to mention the seattle police recently released to the public that Kurt had a note in his wallet on his dead body which he wrote on a stationary that stated "Do you Kurt Cobain take Courtney Michelle Love to be your lawful shredded wife," he wrote. "even when she’s a bitch with zits and siphoning all yr money for doping and whoring…" thats.................not good. here is the source. www.billboard.com/articles/news/6070324/note-from-kurt-cobains-wallet-scorning-courtney-love-released-by-seattle
No, Kurt had a child out of love. Courtney had a child with fame& fortune in mind. Kurt did love Courtney, unfortunately he loved her way more than she loved him. I think it's always been pretty obvious.
The people condemning her here are only looking at this from the perspective that she's a gold digger, which isn't fair. Cobain wasn't the multi-millionaire that he became when she met him in 1991. He was famous, but not at the level he was after In Utero, and she was "indie famous" at the time with the underground scene in her own right. People act like she was this nobody street hooker who he picked up on the corner, but it's just not the case. She had had a band for three years before she met him, had a record deal, and had collaborated with Kim Gordon for Christ's sake. If you put yourself in her shoes, it makes sense that she wants to idealize herself as the "bread winner" and go back to working for herself, because otherwise she'd be falling into the prototypical tattered widow role, which was something she was defiant against. It doesn't mean she wasn't still mourning him or that she didn't love him, but that she didn't want to be forever identified as a subordinate grieving widow who was freeloading off her dead husband's fortune. You can tell by the way she's talking that she wants to distance herself from that at all costs, but unfortunately the public would never allow it, and she was branded that from the day he died forward.
+deadbird1229 At last, a sane person who knows what they're talking about. One observation simply -- they met around the time "Bleach" was out and they were all part of the northwest underground, all influenced by Pixies and Sonic Youth whereas Courtney (a) also drew a lot of influences from british post-punk (she had lived in the UK around the time new wave/ proto-goth got big) and (b) Hole was already making a stand of its own as part of the 'wild bunch' of female rockers of the time and place. She and Kat and Jennifer Finch had been working it out since '85 and in '87 she had her first two indie film roles. Cobain, up until "Bleach" was struggling to provide an identity to the band (it has been stated on record that the sound of Bleach was forged on pure contractual reasons). Whereas Novoselic was clearly the 'body politic' in Nirvana, Courtney was the spokesman and mental force in her band in 90-91. Pretty on the inside, already produced by Kim Gordon before Nevermind was released, is a stunning declaration of purpose and a huge "coming clean" with the past. And what resonated with the northpacific underground (at least, well in the beginning it was limited in that vicinity) was the alienation and detachment of contemporary youth against their parents and corporate mainstream ethos of the reaganite/bush sr. capitalism. Sadly, whereas things broke big after 91-92, they also went to a darker direction, with heroin and all the death toll. There was never any "grunge", it was rock's last genuine rebel yell and it faded int an anechoic chamber out of which came illiterate dudebro apes with badly tuned guitars and aweful snare drums, legit corporate scumbag whimps and mainstream pop idols through reality (freak)shows. Whereas Girlschool and the Runaways proved females could play the "rock machismo" with bravado and style, and Patti Smith reconciled 60s intellect with post-hippie-"kind of bohemian"-antifashion rocknrollism, Courtney Love is the timeless symbol of frenetic sensuality, alpha female leadership and a tormented yet unmistaken (and unsurpassed) genius of libertarian, feminist (dare it be said), self-aware artist. She came from hell to hope then down into hell and back into limelight, then down in third hell and back again. She is as undefeated as her talented and charisma is unmatched. All the witch-trial liars and ape-children "look good for their age" but guess what - she will always look and be better.
+deadbird1229 Suicide frightens people. I doesn't makes sense...this beautiful succesful man. So they tend, grasp for an easy solution. Must have been her. As if anything in life would be that plain and simple. Especially for a complex as well as complicated person as Kurt. In some way it is even disrespectful to Kurt because it implies that he was passiv enough to get dominated and missdirected by her. Anyone who knows a moody/driven/melancholic person like Kurt can try to change that person just a little bit. It costs you every lit bit of your energy and even then you will most likely fail. So thinking she should have just done more is not doing anyone justice. Clearly she has her hands full doing with her own shit and than the child. A more stable person would have helped him....yeah, probably. But then again a more stable/rational/sane person would not have been interesting for him at all...
+Stacey Ellis She probably inherited more than $9 million, but I don't find that a weird statement at all. By work, she means HER work and earning "her" money separate from Kurt's. Obviously she's lived a high lifestyle due to his fortune over the past 20 years, but she's also said many times that she feels like the Nirvana money is "cursed" and that she'd rather spend the money she's making. While she never made as much money with Hole as Nirvana did, it wasn't like she wasn't rich on her own with that band-they were doing well as an underground band before she met Cobain, and LTT was obviously successful, as was Celebrity Skin, which received Grammy nominations; not to mention her work in movies. My point is, she was famous, and she was making money of her own as well. It's not like Kurt was her sole source of income.
Anyone notice the big white lilies - on the couch. Those are the same lilies that Kurt requested be on stage (in mass) for Unplugged Nirvana. One of the MTV exec stated, "All these white lilies, and you want more Kurt" Kurt: "Ya more lilies and more candles." Exec: "Like a funeral?" Kurt: "Ya like a funeral man." Creepy that she has some lilies by her too.
why in the world would that be creepy, when they were given to her by MTV/Kurt Loder - it's amazing the ignorance and misinformation that is spewed and read into total misconceptions, errors, omissions and untruths.
+Kurdt Cobain No one wants to visit your little site ,you douche.You threw out a challenge and couldn't back it up,that site is halfassed weak B.S. and doesn't give any new information about ANYTHING.
That is what I think happened, too. I don't know if he really killed himself or if someone killed him, but we all know that Kurt was a delicate and lovely person who went through a lot of physical and mental pain. He really deserved much better for the great person he was.
Courtney had the most insane life happenings, still to this day, she has endured so much and has been a martyr for all celebrity society as a drug user, they all do it but shes taken the fall many times, still to get up, so many deaths and life saves in her time,i can relate to it on a really Freudian level.stay strong Courtney, stay true , being a male you have always inspired me.love me for who i am or fuck off.great artist on many levels, don't you love the pharmaceutical choice,lovely.
Well obviously she’s going to be more sad when talking about Kurt, and less sad when talking about herself or other things because obviously she’s not thinking about Kurt as much when talking about those things compared to when she’s talking about Kurt.
Everyone tends to want to blame Courtney. But after listening to an interview Kurt had prior to his demise and reading the suicide note my conclusion is Kurt had mental illness and the drugs pushed him over the edge to do what he did. It's a tragedy but you can't hold someone's hand if suicide is on their mind you have to know drugs enhance these thoughts. His suicide letter screams bipolar. One minute he hates people next he loves everyone. He compared himself to Freddie mercury but mercury had a higher hill to climb with acceptence of being bisexual. It's all sad in the end.
I agree 💯 you're absolutely right on mate👍🏻 im 47 and grew up with all this, great times. I never bought into this" she had Kurt killed" I know shes fucked up.. (aren't we all) but I don't believe in anything..Kurt was unfortunately in a messed up state. Sad. He's sadly missed.
Many people who have psychotic disorder are good actors who attach the worst parts of their own personality to someone who "steals" attention or garners "too much sympathy." Also, I hope her next facelift makes her look like a thriller backup dancer.
I pray to God that if I died under suspicious circumstances that my wife wouldn't rest untill she had answers not just say well I have to get on with my life you know!
Actress. Money hungry. Control. Elitist. Calculated. Cheat on your husband. Smear the person who is weak and loving. Use stereotypes for advantage. Manipulation. Worth more dead than alive.Twist the metaphorical knife. Turn your back on the sick, easy to belittle them when so few understand the grip it takes. So easy to turn the bitch on and off. This is a common problem with marriages. Pixie to the devil in a snap. These are my opinions. I am very suspicious. So many loose ends and creepy clues. Careers took off after the death. Don't cross Geffen. Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction look for creepy clues. It goes on and on and on. I notice trends. I believe in karmetic debt. I am entitled to my opinion. Watch the Final 24 hrs of Jimi Hendrix. I hope the same conclusion is brought forward soon. Strange deaths. People afraid to talk. El douche talked struck by a train days later? Do your research people and learn not to be played especially by the ones that you love and trust and divulge your life too. Talking to lawyers behind your back. Sick. So sad a loving person was so controlled, it happens to the best of us in all walks of life. Especially now doesn't have to be murder. The children of the state. Again these statements are not directed towards anyone, but there are SNAKES in the grass. I am entitled to my opinion. Free speech, we still have it right?
***** Hole were actually FAR bigger than Nirvana back in the early 90's. Hole were actually a hugely successful band BEFORE Nirvana, not many people know that. Watch some documentaries.
Huhhh? How old are you? I don't want to start a fight but I was born in 81 and remember the scene well enough. Hole was big, they sort of really caught fire when Live Through This came out. Unfortunately that came out the week they found Kurt. There's to many weird things going on this case. I truly love everyone and I don't want to implicate anyone so I am just going to stop and pray for all those who have suffered from opiates. Be well. Take care. That's what I am going to do.
Yeah the only reason she even feels "good" in the slightest is because he's dead. She is such a phony.She got what she wanted, and it disgusts me watching her lie for her own greed and fame. If she wanted to be any kind of a mother, she wouldn't still be a drunk druggie who still isn't their for Francis. She just mind blows me on how evil she is. Eugh.
Oh, shut the fuck up, If you truly knew anything about Courtney, you wouldn't be saying that. Listen to Hole's song "Honey" and try telling me that she killed him. Or watch the performances Hole did shortly after Kurt's death. Look at how destructive Courtney was being on and off stage. She was in pain. Just fucking leave and inform yourself, you fucking moron. Oh, and she's repeatedly said that she doesn't do drugs anymore. She did in the past, but not anymore. Just fuck off.
Meredith Harrison The facts are out and all facts point to murder over suicide. The TRUTH! Courtney has done nothing but lie about everything. Thats a proven fact! Courtney Love says shes not doing drugs and you believe that? You are the fucking moron that needs to shut the fuck up.
They were also saying Kurt may have been seeing someone else there toward the end and Courtney was jealous as fuck doing crazy shit to find out who it was. Here is a true fact for you. Kurt Cobain thought Kristen Pfaff, Courtneys ex bass player was gorgeous, he thought she was so beautiful and he said that he couldnt tell her that because if Courtney found out he thought Kristen was beautiful there would be hell to pay. On April 1st 1994 Kurt bought 2 plane tickets, one for himself and to this day nobody knows who the other ticket was for. When Kristens mother Janet received Kristens belongings after her death there were pages ripped out of her diary, the pages that were ripped out were ones she had written in the week Kurt was missing. Kristen and Kurt both constantly argued with Courtney in the end. there have been people come forward and say that Kurt and Courtney would scream at each other over the phone, it was pretty bad. I think Kurt and Kristen were attracted to each other, I don't know if they were having an affair but it just seems way to coincidental that they both died upon leaving Courtney Love. the people that believe Kurt committed suicide should really research all the facts, the timeline and evidence around his death. its nuts.
None of that "evidence" is substantial or they would've reopened the case by now. Nearly 2 decades later. All too much of the "evidence" that people throw around has been proved wrong, made up, etc. I don't take it seriously. People just don't want to accept the fact that Kurt chose to end his life.
Well back then not many people were suspicious of courtney hell I didn't think about a possible connection until like 10 years ago. So I would not blame loder hes just doing his job.
@@wigglethemiddle1 plus a real reporter is not supposed to express there own feelings of the person they are interviwing just report the story.thats the different between professional and amature reporting
Disgusting. Kurt was divorcing her, so the fact that many look to her for insight into his mind is perverse. He did not -need- or want her shitty rockstar ego, it wasn't about ego for Kurt, it was about the music. That's why he's a Legend and she is and always will be a sorry excuse for one.
She's an actress. And this was the role she decided to play on this day to further her narrative. I hope she rots in hell for what she had done to Kurt.
@@intomatrix1It was so obvious.. Kurt was struggling. He was depressed, he had addiction problems, and he was overwhelmed with the stress of being a star. He was in pain.
I watched & recorded this when it first aired before the VMA's in '94, I still have this interview & parts of the award show on an old VHS, I was 15 then & still very upset/depressed over Kurt's death. This doesn't feel like it was that long ago, still feels like yesterday.
WHY SO MUCH HATE FOR THIS WOMAN? some people here are really sick.Yes she's a drug addict and has serious issues but she's not a murderer.Next thing you'll say is she's the devil.She's not and it's YOU who push her to do more drugs.
It's the lies that bother me. I was a fan, & naively believed the stories she plants in the media, then years later you find it was just spin for her to manipulate sympathy or sell records. I doubt UA-cam comments drive her to drugs, as C. herself says, 'All publicity is good publicity'.
MsTwangMoose All artists like the publicity and the fame. It's part of their job but I think some comment about her are too mean.C. Love has problems but I don't think she 's so evil as some people make her out to be.
Lol, I hope not! It's hard to tell the facts from lies; I liked her as a strong, loud, female icon, she was always interesting, but I wonder now at her possibly negative effects on Kurt, tormenting & pressuring him as she was more about $$$ while he wasn't so grasping, especially after seeing 'Soaked in Bleach'. The number of likes for this vid. is '666' :/
MsTwangMoose I find her more interesting as an actress. I've seen The People vs Larry Flynt and she was very good(maybe because the character she played was similar to her real character) and also in a thriller with Charlize Theron and Kevin Bacon.
I can relate to what she does... your brain does actually start to function again after close bereavement. My dad died when I was 15 and around that 3-6 month period afterwards, I remember it being a great relief to talk and be able to laugh a little about something other than death. It took you away for a little while from the misery cloud that over-hung you. Those moments when you forgot briefly and almost felt a sense of normal were 💜
she doesn't want to be more depressed and keep talking about her husband commiting suicide. if someone you loved commited and people only asked you about that rather than how youre doing you'd change the subject too
@@sillygirl1139 exactly. i don't think these people have even experienced death that way. when mine died, i spent the day talking about movies and hollywood drama and no one would've guessed i was grieving. do they expect her to cry? plus she's been through so much, she's bound to have thicker skin.
Some things I would like to point out if you truly still believe he killed himself: 1) The shotgun was clean and there were no fingerprints, EXCEPT where his hands were. Who the hell has a shotgun that has NO fingerprints on it from regularly holding and moving it around? 2) He had too much heroin to hold a shot gun- 11x the most seasoned heroin addicts lethal dose. INJECTED mind you, would have instantly been unconscious. 3) The casing of the bullet was on the opposite side of where the releasing chamber would have been, making it virtually impossible to have been in the position he was supposedly found with the gun. 4) Courtney had PRACTICE letters with kurts handwriting where she was writing all the letters in the alphabet repeatedly found in her backpack. Coincidence? Absolutely not. Who does that for fun? 5) Courtney Love hired a hitman a couple days before his death, he declined her offer of 50k, but when he came out with the info, he passed a lie detector test with flying colors and was “ran over by a train” dead two days after going public. 6) Kurt called their attorney asking that Courtney be taken out of the will immediately, furthermore, Courtney called their attorney as well asking if there’s anyway to bypass their prenup. 7) this isn’t as compelling because you never know, but everyone who knew him closely INSISTED that he would have never killed himself, that he wasn’t the type of person to kill himself, and that he had been at lower lows before. 8) their “friend” nicknamed Cali, was proven to have been in the main house around the time Kurt would have “killed himself”. With that being said, have you seen this shotgun? If someone was in the house sleeping or not they would have heard that in the greenhouse undoubtedly. 9) the suicide note. If you look at the note, the main body looks to simply be a note to fans about his loss for love of music and feeling like a pos for it. It was titled “boddah” which was his imaginary friend growing up. In my humble opinion, the body of the note was a vented letter to express frustration for the loss of love of his music, that may or may not have actually been released. The bottom part of the note was clearly different than the main body, leaving my suspicions to be that whoever forged the suicide letter looked through his letters, journals, writings, (he did a lot), found one that looked depressing enough, and added to it to make it appear suicidal. The bottom part of the letter has one ‘k’ in it. He had a very distinctive way of spelling his ‘k’ and that was not lined up with the way he did it. That’s just one example of many with that note, but my pure speculation. 10) Courtney was becoming desperate, knew he was leaving, and needed a plan of action and fast. Point blank. She knew det. Cameron, she knew the autopsy professional, she knew a lot of the key players in this case and most likely paid hush money.
some of this info is incorrect althougj i believe that the situation around his death is weird there were fingerprints on the shotgun they just couldn’t identify who’s and it was 3X the lethal dose of heroin not 11
Also Kurt’s drug kit. That dose would have made him instantly unconscious. How could he have shot up then tidied up his kit when that dose would have killed him instantly? If you were planning to die why clean up at all? And then also have time to shoot yourself with a shotgun? Makes zero sense. If he shot those drugs up himself he would have been found dead with the needle in his arm because it would have put him into cardiac arrest almost immediately. If Courtney didn’t kill him or hire someone to do so then someone else had a motive to kill Kurt because he most certainly didn’t kill himself
Because most people don't like talking about death dummy that's why she switched a little bit because she feels bad about his death because she said she blames herself for his death
Chris cornell's expression on his face when the guy mention the name courtney love who knows what kind of very wise thoughts came across Cornell's mind in that very second.. may your soul live forever Chris, in a place far FAR AWAY from true Bitches of Hell such Courtney Hate
What if Chris death was not a suicide? what if... i dont know dude, i believe that controversial suicides like this stuff has something more behind the door, if you know what i mean.
I just wish Kurt knew better.. I wish he was being treated better.. Having a heart as fragile as his needs someone that understands and willing to stand by him through every pain and misery he feels and facing inside. Not someone that as selfish, manipulative and as "i have my own thing" like Courtney. It's such a shame that the universe got them together, while they both were too toxic for eachother.
He tried calling her multiple times the day before he died and the damn hotel wouldn’t put him through. He was a grown ass man and loved Courtney. Just chill.
💀 i’m pretty sure he wrote that hated when people called him naive and delicate, he was a GROWN MAN and none of us really know him outside of music/interviews. you’re parasocial.
“I’m not psychic but my lyrics are.” Wow. I’m beginning to think you’re much more than psychic… Your husband just committed suicide, how are you promoting yourself at this time?? “Live Through This” is one of my favorite albums ever so this is going to be hard saying this but I’m beginning to really wonder about her involvement in Kurt’s death. I always defended Courtney until recently things just don’t add up. Maybe I just wasn’t paying close enough attention before. Every time I see an interview after Kurt’s death, she seems to be acting/fake crying when she talks about him. I think she has a personality disorder and targeted Kurt from the beginning. They are a classic empath/narcissist couple. The narcissist always destroys the empath in the end. I really hope I’m wrong about this but the more I see, the more I’m convinced. RIP Kurt🥀💫
I used to dismiss the conspiracy theory as nuts but there are far too many strange things around it, especially her behavior here. When my best friend died of an overdose, it took me years to be able to talk about it without breaking down. She talks about it as if he’s just looking down and wanted to be remembered like this or that - and he was her husband, the father of her child Something ain’t right!
I 100% agree with you! However, I had just read that Courtney was diagnosed with mild Autism at the age of nine. This can be the reason she acts the way she does. Please Google it cuz it is interesting. Her behaviour and lack of empathy could be from that or she really is a monster
When my aunt, who raised me, died I went out for sushi and shot the shit with the rest of my family for hours. I was able to talk about it right away, and it took me months to cry at all. I don't understand why so many of the people in this comment section are incapable of looking outside of themselves to realize how differently grief can manifest in different people.
Kurt was trying to divorce her and get full custody but never had the chance because she hired Allen Wrench to murder him and later burned her divorce papers telling a friend it's all mine now. It also helped she was sleeping with Sgt. Don Cameron the lead detective on the case who was helping her clean her tracks.
nobody around them was aware of any divorce. No divorce attorneys were ever contacted, no papers ever drawn up and they weren't even separate at the time. Kurt would not have gotten custody of a dog at that time let alone a child. She was sleeping with Sgt Don Cameron? LOL yea that's complete BS.
I like how she is just going to give away his material but when Kurt Loder asks her if she knew any of the material was good at 7:14 she proceeds to light a cigarette and became VERY uncomfortable... almost like she is at the shrink.
ermmmmm no. Courtney told him that he dropped the baby when he was high, ands he told the public in an interview that she said it pretty nastily. She also told us that she regrets telling him and that she feels guilty for his death. Before you go beleiving rumours do some fucking research
when i was at my wifes sisters funeral her mother was joking with people and laughing, but in private she cried... im just saying, you never know how someone will act in tragity. even if she killed him, you dont know how she would act. no one really knows. so her actions here i dont think should count on the weight on if yoou think she killed him.
No one does. But depression/ lack of support mixed with drugs can really interrupt rationality obviously. Idky but she seems like a sewer rat & he's the only reason she's famous. This interview blows shit.
Well, and in his journals he wrote "bipolar opposites attract" maybe he meant that he was attracted to the fact that she was completely different than him. All I know is it makes me really sad.
***** well pretty much everyone this women comes into contact with ends up hating her, so Im sure he would have too if he didnt already. based on what some of his old friends have said they argued and faught all the time
She says “We went mountain biking we went camping , we were damn normal” can’t picture Kurt and Courtney doing those things lol then again I didn’t know them personally, just sounds weird and she’s known to be a hypocrite in interviews
I have went through alot of these archived YT videos over the last week in response to the Hbo documentary. It is such and incredible story. I look back on that period and how hugely profound this was. Noone could have been prepared for the huge overnight celebrity The art is truly a game changer. Kurt launches off of his anger found in youth. As he steps forward and seeks security through his first girlfriend....and then the band....and then Courtney...he starts to bloom. The crossover point of a happy person who has a baby and a new wife is to embrace them and transfer the energy. He got lost. Instead of releasing himself from his anger ....which made his celebrity and art so pure....he became conflicted. He did not feel worthy of happiness. In fact he punished that part in him for even considering happiness. It is a common reaction for someone who is self abusive. Maturity allows us to release the past and live for the moment and future. Courtney is a symbol of that conflict within all of us. He had the opposite reaction...fear of happiness. He doubled down on heroine and resulting depression. Courtneys attempts at sobriety intervention in my mind is a recognition by Kurt that she was right. Ultimately he did not accept himself....he rejected his drug use and his youth that drove his anger. His escape however was not to go through painful rehab. On a basic level from his childhood... He felt unloved...kicked around...and he hated that person inside of him. We all experience this transformation...without drugs to magnify the fear of growing up and letting go of the past. His reaction was to take control and bury the past. He killed that person. At the expense to humanity and what he was about to give humanity in the future. His underlying anger and pain was so profound that it consumed him, but also powered his celebrity. And this is the ultimate conflict. His art lives on forever as the most profound form of pure rock and roll ever constructed. It is a sad sad sad ending. He killed the beast within. He felt naked and exposed with the potential of going through life clean and sober. This is a message in a way to all of us. Allow yourself love and happiness and allow the past to grow old. Rock and Roll legends dont realize how important they are. We connect with their emotions through their art. I will always wonder.
Omg your dumb as fuck it’s way too obvious she had him killed listen to her phone call recordings days leading up to his death she constantly got caught in lies and slip ups staging his death that was overlooked by the Seattle police department because of her screaming suicide suicide. She was desperate not to get divorced and left with no money or career she knew he was divorcing her he told rosemary carrol before he went on stage he was divorcing her. It’s plain as day you mfs are just too dense to see through her lies somehow 😂😭or you can tell that the amount of heroin he had in his system is 3 times the LETHAL dose… buddy if you took 3 times the lethal dose you wouldn’t be able to grab a shotgun and shoot yourself I just don’t see how that can be just written off by you mfs
she wines about being the media's focus of the band being directed at her, that she feels like 'cher' - then smashcut to the music video where she's the only one lit. Then consider that now none of her band is in 'her band' anymore.
+B LaLa OMG,,,i got goose bumps coz u metioned that,coz i heard her repeat that phrase over and over and over again,and it doesnt sound right,coz it sounds like she knew exactly what's gonna happen and she wrote about it!!! and that like "i fake it so real i am beyond fake"??? I feel like we all been fooled ,but also i think she wasnt the only one,coz no way she would be able to pull it off on her own,im not gonna be surprised if the whole MTV staff would be behind it or something coz they all cashed in on Kurt's death and his legacy,,i only wonder how can she live her life without being haunted by his spirit or something....
+Kat Tur "without being haunted by his spirit or something.".. Before believing in ghosts, you should start believing in proper education. Your English is as messed up and incoherent as your conspiracy hoopla which borders on the paranormal.
SovMod,OK and you have PhD in fucking English language or what?!!As a matter of fact,English is my second language,but I am proud of the fact that I can speak it fluently and I can even understand the stupidly of the comments ppl like you leave all over the place,so I wonder how many languages ur ass can speak fluently, huh???And my education has nothing to do with my opinion on that particular subject! If u like being fooled by ppl who committed a crime and lied to to the whole world about it,it is your choice too,you are part of that herd of sheep who blindly believe everything they being told to,not using their brain or common sense whatsoever!!!Hopefully one day the justice will be served,and I strongly believe in that,and untill that day I can voice my "conspiracy hoopla" any fucking way I wish and desire,who's gonna stop me?You,English professor???Haha,go buy in on more bullshit that media feeds you,or may be learn something new,like a second fucking language for example!!!!!Fuck Uuuuuuuuu
My gut instinct makes me really think there is acting going on in this interview, as well as the barbara walters interview she did after his death, its just strange and sad
It's impresive, everyone throw shit -many misoginistic crap - to Courtney Love. She is not a saint, that's clear, she had some guilt in Cobain's mental downfall and hard drug use, that's true, but now everyone claims that she is an assasin. "Kurt & Courtney" and "Soaked in Bleach" did the job very well, specially the last one, cause is more "serious" documentary and more believable to people who always was suspicious and always hate her from the begininng. "Kurt & Courtney" was crap, and i know people who believe that he was murdered and said it so. That doc was bullshit, so, they had to do more serious job and came with "Soaked... which was delayed in its release to match with "Montage of Heck", which is not very good. The best documentary for me is "About a Son".
Shane Heart it was obvious that some irritated fella were gonna insult. i watch soaked in bleach, but im not gonna respond with insults, that shows that you are the moron (with all respect) cheers.
+Tomás Orellana im sorry, but im going to have to believe the former president of the American forensics society when he says the case needs to be reopened because of obvious inconsistencies, not some ass clown who obviously has no clue what he is talking about. ;-) jackass
I agree I think someone was in that room with him. Maybe Kurt injected himself with a low dose and while he was nodding out someone else had a lethal dose ready in another needle and injected him with it then they stuck the gun in his mouth. If you read the case facts. It says he had two puncture marks on his arm and he was already clean before he even went to rehab. He must have been tempted by someone to use and they set him up. I say justice for Kurt this was murder
Kurt Loader is a mouthpiece for this hussy. The release of Live Through This garnered SO much more attention as a result of Cobain's death....please let's be real.
I remember listening to the radio to the very first public announcement Courtney Love made immediately after the death of Kurt. And she was so quick to promote Hole I was shocked. From that day to this I couldn't help but feel she was involved in his death, and I refuse to listen to her music.
She says rite off the bat.. "I'm not psychic but my lyrics are".. the name of her album is "live through this".. Dear God if they ever convicted her of Kurt's murder.. She is the most VIOLE person In this world!! Because that would mean she wrote lyrics of her up coming album, while Kurt was still alive knowing she was going to have him killed
Yep......Kurt didn't get out fast enough. He asked his lawyer to take her out of his will and she had him sign a pre-nuptual because she was making more money than him when they got married. He was divorcing her. An evil manipulative black widow.
That album was written long before Kurt commented suicide. Then released just after his death. What people forget is that Hole had a record contract before Nirvana
I adore this version of Courtney Love. Real. She did what she could and I can't say that I would be 'normal' if I had the kind of life that she lived. I love the idea that she forgets the cameras are there and she talks to Loder as a person and a friend. A difficult wife of a difficult man. RIP Kurt xoxo
I'd also like to add that if the people closest to Kurt and Courtney don't blame her, then take that into consideration. Trust the people who lived it and stop relying on the hype that she's to blame. It's so sad to read all the hate and unproven 'truths' that people continue refer to in order to perpetuate this shaming of Courtney. She may not be innocent when it comes to their issues but she lost her husband in a very tragic way and we will never know what it was truly like between them.
@@Heidihoe85 “unproven truths”??????😂😭😭😭😭😭😭😂you are a fucking dumbass go listen to her phone call recordings she constantly got caught in lie after lie trying to stage his death your an idiot u sound like you were a fan of her music or something which is surprising her music is literally dog shit 😂😭
Exactly, you have to go back to work because that's what adults do. Do you think Kurt would have stopped creating music if she had died? lol I'm beginning to think you guys hate her because she had Kurt and you didn't. He loved her so she must have great qualities. You Go Woman!!!
he would have probably used the pain to write another album lets face it! They were obviously so in love with each other. Dont know what I would do if that happened to me, I probably would have joined him
Julianna Anda you hit the nail on the head there, people who don't own a house or car or have a child don't understand, mainly kids living in there mums spare room thinking up more conspiracy BS
Kurt had already been established as a superstar Courtney how to prove herself and what a coincidence Kurt is going which means Nirvana is going timing is everything
10.) The Seattle medical examiner, Dr Nikola Hartshorne (Dr NH) is a friend of CL from before he was a doctor. He had promoted Courtney's first husband, James Moreland's, band in the '80's. So no surprise when he rules for CL's version of events, as a suicide. 11.) Dr NH is also the ME for the death of CL's bassist, Kristen Pfaff (KP) who was killed just weeks after the murder of KC, and after being given heroin by another Hole band member, Erick Erlandson (EE). CL was very jealous over KC and KP's new relationship. 12.) EE is at KC's house the day he died after CL asked him to go to the house to look for her husband. 13.) Three months after KC was murdered, and just weeks after KP was killed, Dr NH, who by all accounts was rising up the ladder at work, leaves to live in Florida. His Seattle coworkers are all surprised. 14.) Three months after KC was murdered, DT, of the SPD, is murdered by two guys who set him up to be killed by pretending to have a flat tire. 15.) Lead on the KC case, Detective Cameron (DC), and the boss of DT, is fired three years after the murder of KC for bribery and corruption. He had been with SPD for 39 years. 16.) No fingerprints on the shotgun or shells. So, I think CL had EE give KC a mickey in his root beer (the Valium found in KC's blood) and then have him give a massive dose of heroin when KC was already passed out. EE then leaves and Allen Wrench comes in alone, instructed by CL, to get the shotgun she knew KC had purchased with his buddy Dylan Carlson, and to use it on KC. Dylan admits he told CL about the shotgun prior. Then CL has EE give her rival, KP, an OD of heroin. EE is the only person to be seen entering her residence that night. He left 30 minutes later. So then CL hires some thugs to pretend a flat tire on the route of off duty DT and have him killed. Dead men tell no tales. In 2002 Dr NH dies. In 2022 CL settles out of court with her son in-law, Isaiah Silva, for his kidnapping and attempted murder.
they found trace elements of valium in Kurt's system and Silva made up the entire story. Kind of like your other hero El Duce who also made up his story.
@@ThisIsF-dUp its public knowledge. Silva never offered a shred of proof for any of his claims and the judge gave him nothing but the guitar. Silva made up his story and so did El Duce. you're gullible.
I don’t see how any one could blame her. She speaks so fondly and is protective of him. I can’t imagine the world watching and analyzing you while you grieve.
Oh isn't this nice, shortly after having her husband killed she gets to focus on her own music career. This woman is so insanely sketchy. She almost certainly paid one of her druggie friends to kill Kurt.
Quite the contrary. Narcissists hate themselves. Narcissism is self-obsession on a basis of complete infatuation with your every flaw and shortcoming. Narcissists may compensate for this self-loathing by projecting a facade of self-love. Really, narcissism is simply self-obsession. That obsession is rarely about what you possess, and more often about that which you lack.
This is exactly how it was broadcast when it was aired by Mtv before the VMA show ( I guess you are saying it aired before that also) it does seems odd that they would cut out every part when she started to cry during a rebroadcast but anything is possible. The way it was presented here definitely makes Courtney look bad. too bad no one else recorded that version I would love to see it.
People stop saying courtney love is a bad person or that she wanted kurt cobain dead shes just had not the easiest type of life and its still probably effecting her in her life but she has been trying her hardest and still is . A person can hold so much till the day they have to let it go and shes had her outbursts maby is to get all that stress out of her or maby thats just who she is . So am gona say it agian she did not kill her husband maby she had made mistakes throughout thier relationship or had fights i dont know but i do know that no one is perfect . So plzz LEAVE HER ALONE!
Euridice Diaz The people who most strongly think Courtney had Kurt killed are those who cant cope with the idea that they are members of the audience which Kurt decided he'd rather be dead than to ever play for again.
The death of her husband was part of her plan and actually an element of her "work"....creating FAME for herself. So she didn't skip a beat there because essentially his death was merely grist to the mill.
+Knucklehead Wow did you think this through yourself or did you hire a private investigator to guide you through the motions? Oh wait some hired help made some covert (wouldnt want to get any nasty trouble in court now, would we?) comments in some fourth-rate documentary that no sane person takes seriously, and all of sudden, after 20 years, the truth that all involved close people,bandmembers, wfe, lawyers managements and friend ignored, is revealed? With such enlightment, I might hire you to provide me with lottery predictions. UA-cam sometimes beats the hell out of blabbermouth - and THAT is a very strong statement.
+SovMod - Thank you for your response. My comment summarizes several factors that have come to light over the years since Kurt Cobain died. Not only this "rock-umentary." Including info in different interviews of CL in person herself - her own contradictions, attitudes, and behaviors in other rock relationships before and since KC's death. People close to a tragic situation - like band members & family members in this case - are too close to the situation and in their shock and grief and do not see "the forest for the trees". CL had manipulated the media into thinking "suicide" in a campaign long before the man's death. He was cured of a long standing abdominal illness, he was asking his lawyer to file for divorce (and so was she), he had not signed his will, and he devotedly loved his daughter....these facts do not add up to suicide and furthermore some of these are not facts most people close to him would have known.The crime scene investigation was a farce - the most knowledgeable forensic scientists is the field - in fact the doctor who wrote the book on crime scene investigation - have weighed in on how inappropriately the entire matter was handled.Her comment in this "interview" where Kurt Loder asks her - "How can you get on with your career right now following the loss of your husband?" She answers - "Well this is what I do....etc." - Bet you dollars to donuts the Last Will and Testament was in Probate - that takes quite a long time to finalize - and also the Will was in question since it was not signed by the deceased - and Courtney being practical knew that she needed money until that was done. Of course I am only guessing. But it is a pretty good guess. To quote Proverbs - "The guilty flee when none pursue..." - she has gotten away with murder for hire - and she threatens anyone who challenges or opposed her in any way on any subject with law suits and worse - physical harm. Look at the journalist who was writing about them - she left town when she was threatened.When lawyers won't support her in this she instructs her assistants to fabricate letters from lawyers - as in the case of her former assistant who refused and who countersued and took a settlement off of CL. CL had the murder scene - the entire garage - demolished. Is this the same woman who sat with mourners and gave them personal objects of the lost artist? Her current comment, "More people visit here than the Space Needle (in Seattle)" - you would think she would appreciate the fans continued support - not disdain their presence. Where is her sincerity now? Just as Kurt Cobain was polite, intelligent, and thoughtful in his interviews - She is calculating and manipulative of information and hostile. These are basic character traits shining through. If you want to see one of the Queens of Queen - Look at Tina Turner live in concert. CLove on her best day WISHES she had the talent that Tina Turner - a LADY - has in her pinky finger. But she is very clever and has put herself amongst the best of the best on that list. If outright crass behavior and blind ambition is what gets you there - as well as lack of talent - CL should be number one.
Nope, I didn,t saw another broadcast of this interview. I saw this same interview the same day live it was showed on MTV on 1994, I was 13 years old I was a nirvana fan and on that date I still was shocked about kurt death, so I wasn,t going to miss the view live of this interview. It is cut my friend, if you don,t believe me is ok..but I remember everytime courtney started to cry in this interview, MTV cut it off and went to advertisement, because it was live not recorded and modified like this
"I'm not psychic, but my lyrics are" telling...
Yeah one of many weird quotes .............
I read this at the same moment she was saying it, lol
Because they come from the unconscious
I literally came to say the exact same
Fking thing! Like bishhhh you wrote them lyrics, with Kurt.. so
Because she sings about what was premeditated
They always blame the chick. John and Yoko, Kurt and Courtney. They don't think Yoko killed him obviously but they think she ruined his life. They always blame the chick.
Power of the pussy!
I know makes me so angry
JackHabbit
you are very right
good ol' patriarchy. it makes me so sick since i've been watching courtney's interviews for a while and 80% the comments are: "she killed kurt". majorly thanks to that damn soaked in bleech doc shit, but it's not like people only realized this theory now so, yeah it sucks.
they even blame Nancy, even though Sid literally KILLED her, but still he is an innocent lamb and she's the bitch
She knew Kurt's inner most thoughts, his ways, his deep dark secrets, etc. so people will hate her until the end of time because they never got that close to him, never knew him in that way. So tell me, how did Courtney get what she wanted? She lost Frances' father and her husband. It wasn't about the money, it's about any other woman in the world who lives that type of lifestyle and looses their spouse to suicide. Just because Courtney is a musician, it doesn't make her immune to pain. I love her, and always will! Kurt wanted a strong woman, and he got one.
You love murders huh
Oh she is allllll about the money..
Oh please 😂
She was super panicked about losing Kurts money, she said it herself in the recordings, that "money isn't a problem - well it will be if we get a divorce".. And she pushed Kurt hard to perform shows he didn't want to do because of the huge payouts he would get. You can love Courtney but don't pretend she didn't care about Kurts money and the fame he brought to her. She wanted to be rich and famous under any circumstances. It was more important to her than anything else
@@sicidamara7061where can I find this recording?
"He needs his dignity preserved" yet she sold his most personal diaries and items.
spot on !
she sounds so phony
Trueee
trav4oilers yea and told the crowd to call him an asshole when people were grieving in Seattle the day after his death.
Horrible narcissistic bitch
Music was so much better in the 90s. I wish I could go back in time and see a lot of the 90s bands that I still listen to today. Some of them are still out there but to see them live in their prime... I can’t imagine how incredible that must’ve been.
they're lame now,..and they were lame then,..lol
Her band was trash and her voice is god awful
Nostalgia is a delusion. It wasn't that great.
@@svonkie Then you were obviously a loser then and a loser now. The 90s were wild times. In my opinion, it was the best decade for music ever... Kids of today will never know or realize how good life was without the internet and mobile phones. You don't know what you got until it's gone.
The 80’s was the best of music the best time to be alive
'No one is going to hold that against you" -Something Kurt Loader was wrong as hell about.
“Nothin' really bothers her
She just wants to love herself”
And yet, he married her.
@LITTLE HORN wrong
@LITTLE HORN How do you know?
@@jcook1077 Thats why he said his wife sweats empathy or something in his suicide note?
Well someones got to right?
Just my two cents (since the majority of the comments are referencing the murder theory and Soaked in Bleach):
- Kurt Cobain was going to DIVORCE Courtney Love. Fact.
- Kurt Cobain was in the process of removing Courtney Love from his will. Fact.
- Courtney Love filed the Missing Person Report pretending to be Wendy Cobain, citing "suicidal tendencies". Fact.
Soaked in Bleach is definitely biased, but the recordings are UNMISTAKABLE.
Did Courtney Love kill Kurt Cobain? I don't know.
But the whole story is fishy, that's for sure.
Very, VERY fishy.
How do you know these "facts"? Were you Kurt's attorney?
Btw, Rosemary Carroll was an ENTERTAINMENT Lawyer and not a family law attorney, she was disbarred after she was found on tape talking to Tom Grant.
Alex Raven Because all those things came from Courtneys mouth herself..Both her and Rosemary said he was looking into divorce. Rosemary mentioned the removal of Courtney from the will. And that Courtney filed the missing persons report and not Kurts mom. Most if not all of those things are on record coming directly from CL and Rosemary mouths on recording. It's all pretty damn suspicious considering Courtney told the media completely different stories
Well if she did, it was euthanasia. Kurt was lost. And if he didn't die Courtney wouldn't survive too. It was a toxic relationship. I totally feel for Courtney, I have to say.
@Rico Williams I know it's pretty sad to say so, but depression is a disease that kills people. Believe me, if you were lucky enough you never saw someone with a very severe case of depression. I had many toxic relationship with people that I wanted to "save", it was very hard to break with them and in the first case probably it would have been better if he just died. After 8 years he's still miserable, stuck in this tar pit. I feel for Courtney, because I feel everything she did, she did it to save both. I really don't know how to explain my point of view, I hope you were able to pinpoint it...
All these people judging Courtney. 1. You don't fucking know her 2. You know about a quarter of her story 3. SHE IS HUMAN TOO! Just leave her alone
CHUCKYLOSTIT Courtney could of help herself out by telling the truth from the beginning! She didn't not pull the trigger, but she knew about it!
You don't know Charles Manson, so you can't judge him? Basically you're saying any person who you are not in direct contact with is out of bounds, regardless of their actions. Yeah, sounds logical.
I came here because someone mentioned how cold she was in this interview. She's not, she's fighting to continue her life, which is a very legitimate thing to do under those circumstances.
Your dumb as fuck she is a sociopath and shes got your ass fooled lmaoooo
I’m confused why all these people are hating on Courtney. Like you clicked on a video about Courtney, I mean you know how she is. For what? Just to say that she killed her husband in the comments? I think that most people who clicked on this video know there are people out there that think she killed Kurt, so like why are you watching??
welcome to the collateral damage of the internet. where trolls tag anything hole/nirvana related to have a conspiracy circle jerk in the comment section and never go to therapy to discuss their 'theories' with professionals and do something constructive and positive with their lives. it's a qanonapalooza and we have failure p.i. tom grant, the k-mart alex jones, to unthank for that. the zombie apocalypse is here.
I was back to work one week after my husbands death because you need something. If you lay down and give in you may stop breathing and die. I cried every day, but I worked. People said go home but why what was at home besides my empty house with my husband not in it? Anyway after experiencing it I stopped buying into the Courtney conspiracy because she seems innocent to me, she truly loved him and that's clear. I was also accused of killing my husband after his suicide. Society stigmatizes the widows of suicides. It's rude and quite horrendous the things people have said to me and even more so to her.
Reading some comment threads I also said I'd get on with my life, and my husband told me to weeks before. Many of the comments I can directly interpret as a response to the way in which I dealt with the loss of my husband to which I would just like to say your all rude and thoughtless jerks.
I hope you're feeling better about it 💜
I'm so so sorry for your loss. my heart is breaking reading your comment ,I can't&don't want to imagine the pain you've been through .for anyone who posted mean or hurtful comments they've obviously never had true love so they're the sad ones. I don't know your beliefs but I will pray for u right now&i hope since its been a few yrs since u commented that you are able to get through the day a lil bit easier. I wish you peace, healing & love. God bless you , be kind to urself. again I'm so very sorry .
People are jerks. They're in denial since fuckin 1994. Ffs, let the guy rest in peace and leave Courtney alone, she suffered enough pain for a lifetime by losing the love of her life.
Listen love I understand your story, and I am sorry to hear of what happened to you, but let's make no mistake about it Courtney is no innocent woman. She planned this till day one to have him murdered. Go watch 'soaked in bleach 2014' it's on youtube the Investigator she hired was Tom Grant and that was her biggest mistake because he said this was not suicide but murder. No way someone can inject 3 times the amount of heroin in there body and then pick pack away everything nicely then pick up the 20 gauge shot gun and blast themselves it's not possible, again sorry for your loss but not everyone has a story like you.
She tries to sort of act sad but she Changes character quick when she starts talking about herself.
well yea cuz her mind isn't focusing on the sad at that point...that's a natural response.
Trust me, she isn't at all sad.
People grieve in different ways you know.
yep, you can see that as well in an interview at her house just after Kurt died. Can't remember the name of that woman who interviewd her
@@auroraborealis6398 uh, Barbara Walters?
I heard Kurt saying he was attracted to Courtney because she was so crazy and he’d never met a girl like her. It seems she already paid a dear price.
No he said she was exciting and excitingthi gs happened when they were together
Kurt was avoidant, introverted so he was magnetized to someone who would gladly fight all his battles for him like psycho Courtney
Courtney and Frances had personal relationships with Kurt, fans and haters did not. Courtney shared his bed, thoughts in his head, they were beyond close, in love, treated each other well. Kurt loved her. Loved her! They had a child together out of love. It's so easy for people to hate on a woman who's only crime was loving a suicidal addict, when their hero did this to himself. Courtney is beautiful here. Even though this is many years ago, she's still beautiful and part of her DNA and Kurts runs through Frances' veins.
Sonetta Skye Keeping up on whats realy happening must not be a strong suite for you, they were in process of a divorce, shes the only one that mentioned hes suicidal, no one else did. I guess you can trash a man who died just as easily as Courtney
Sonetta Skye what about the impending divource? not looking to start some huge dumb fight just curious as to your thoughts on that?
+Zak Winters not to mention the seattle police recently released to the public that Kurt had a note in his wallet on his dead body which he wrote on a stationary that stated "Do you Kurt Cobain take Courtney Michelle Love to be your lawful shredded wife," he wrote. "even when she’s a bitch with zits and siphoning all yr money for doping and whoring…"
thats.................not good. here is the source.
www.billboard.com/articles/news/6070324/note-from-kurt-cobains-wallet-scorning-courtney-love-released-by-seattle
This comment needs to be at the top! WELL SAID!
No, Kurt had a child out of love. Courtney had a child with fame& fortune in mind. Kurt did love Courtney, unfortunately he loved her way more than she loved him. I think it's always been pretty obvious.
The people condemning her here are only looking at this from the perspective that she's a gold digger, which isn't fair. Cobain wasn't the multi-millionaire that he became when she met him in 1991. He was famous, but not at the level he was after In Utero, and she was "indie famous" at the time with the underground scene in her own right. People act like she was this nobody street hooker who he picked up on the corner, but it's just not the case. She had had a band for three years before she met him, had a record deal, and had collaborated with Kim Gordon for Christ's sake.
If you put yourself in her shoes, it makes sense that she wants to idealize herself as the "bread winner" and go back to working for herself, because otherwise she'd be falling into the prototypical tattered widow role, which was something she was defiant against. It doesn't mean she wasn't still mourning him or that she didn't love him, but that she didn't want to be forever identified as a subordinate grieving widow who was freeloading off her dead husband's fortune. You can tell by the way she's talking that she wants to distance herself from that at all costs, but unfortunately the public would never allow it, and she was branded that from the day he died forward.
+deadbird1229 At last, a sane person who knows what they're talking about. One observation simply -- they met around the time "Bleach" was out and they were all part of the northwest underground, all influenced by Pixies and Sonic Youth whereas Courtney (a) also drew a lot of influences from british post-punk (she had lived in the UK around the time new wave/ proto-goth got big) and (b) Hole was already making a stand of its own as part of the 'wild bunch' of female rockers of the time and place. She and Kat and Jennifer Finch had been working it out since '85 and in '87 she had her first two indie film roles. Cobain, up until "Bleach" was struggling to provide an identity to the band (it has been stated on record that the sound of Bleach was forged on pure contractual reasons). Whereas Novoselic was clearly the 'body politic' in Nirvana, Courtney was the spokesman and mental force in her band in 90-91. Pretty on the inside, already produced by Kim Gordon before Nevermind was released, is a stunning declaration of purpose and a huge "coming clean" with the past. And what resonated with the northpacific underground (at least, well in the beginning it was limited in that vicinity) was the alienation and detachment of contemporary youth against their parents and corporate mainstream ethos of the reaganite/bush sr. capitalism. Sadly, whereas things broke big after 91-92, they also went to a darker direction, with heroin and all the death toll. There was never any "grunge", it was rock's last genuine rebel yell and it faded int an anechoic chamber out of which came illiterate dudebro apes with badly tuned guitars and aweful snare drums, legit corporate scumbag whimps and mainstream pop idols through reality (freak)shows.
Whereas Girlschool and the Runaways proved females could play the "rock machismo" with bravado and style, and Patti Smith reconciled 60s intellect with post-hippie-"kind of bohemian"-antifashion rocknrollism, Courtney Love is the timeless symbol of frenetic sensuality, alpha female leadership and a tormented yet unmistaken (and unsurpassed) genius of libertarian, feminist (dare it be said), self-aware artist. She came from hell to hope then down into hell and back into limelight, then down in third hell and back again.
She is as undefeated as her talented and charisma is unmatched.
All the witch-trial liars and ape-children "look good for their age" but guess what - she will always look and be better.
+deadbird1229
Suicide frightens people. I doesn't makes sense...this beautiful succesful man. So they tend, grasp for an easy solution. Must have been her.
As if anything in life would be that plain and simple. Especially for a complex as well as complicated person as Kurt.
In some way it is even disrespectful to Kurt because it implies that he was passiv enough to get dominated and missdirected by her.
Anyone who knows a moody/driven/melancholic person like Kurt can try to change that person just a little bit. It costs you every lit bit of your energy and even then you will most likely fail. So thinking she should have just done more is not doing anyone justice. Clearly she has her hands full doing with her own shit and than the child.
A more stable person would have helped him....yeah, probably. But then again a more stable/rational/sane person would not have been interesting for him at all...
I agree with you.
shes/she was digging for fame & yo further her own career!
+Caroline Smith to
has to make a living and go back to work? didn't she just inherit £9 million?
Stacey Ellis Exactly, which she wouldnt have if they got divorced due to a prenup
Stacey Ellis thats why they are rich
+Stacey Ellis you believe that and I have swamp land for sale you may want to buy
+Stacey Ellis She probably inherited more than $9 million, but I don't find that a weird statement at all. By work, she means HER work and earning "her" money separate from Kurt's. Obviously she's lived a high lifestyle due to his fortune over the past 20 years, but she's also said many times that she feels like the Nirvana money is "cursed" and that she'd rather spend the money she's making. While she never made as much money with Hole as Nirvana did, it wasn't like she wasn't rich on her own with that band-they were doing well as an underground band before she met Cobain, and LTT was obviously successful, as was Celebrity Skin, which received Grammy nominations; not to mention her work in movies. My point is, she was famous, and she was making money of her own as well. It's not like Kurt was her sole source of income.
"Yeah, money can't buy happiness" - Kurt Cobain
Kurt Loder has been old, longer than most people have been alive.
He’s been 58 for the past 26 years
Anyone notice the big white lilies - on the couch. Those are the same lilies that Kurt requested be on stage (in mass) for Unplugged Nirvana. One of the MTV exec stated, "All these white lilies, and you want more Kurt" Kurt: "Ya more lilies and more candles." Exec: "Like a funeral?" Kurt: "Ya like a funeral man." Creepy that she has some lilies by her too.
Kurt loved stargazer lilies and perhaps she keeps them near because they remind her of Kurt?
why in the world would that be creepy, when they were given to her by MTV/Kurt Loder - it's amazing the ignorance and misinformation that is spewed and read into total misconceptions, errors, omissions and untruths.
I’m sure they gave her comfort in his memory
Not creepy AWESOME
Anything that could mix Kurt personality into Kourtney she was gonna do, down to the last subconscious
she didn't kill him. but she didn't love him. she used him. everyone used him. everyone's selfish. everyone is shitty. that's what killed kurt
+B3RGMAN7 soaked in bleach? have you watched it on it will changed your mind its on Netflix
+truth you should check out @soakedinbullshit on Instagram and tumblr
+truth if you believe that mockumentary you're a naive dumby
+Kurdt Cobain No one wants to visit your little site ,you douche.You threw out a challenge and couldn't back it up,that site is halfassed weak B.S. and doesn't give any new information about ANYTHING.
That is what I think happened, too. I don't know if he really killed himself or if someone killed him, but we all know that Kurt was a delicate and lovely person who went through a lot of physical and mental pain. He really deserved much better for the great person he was.
that's why kurt was great, he was humble.... RIP
Courtney had the most insane life happenings, still to this day, she has endured so much and has been a martyr for all celebrity society as a drug user, they all do it but shes taken the fall many times, still to get up, so many deaths and life saves in her time,i can relate to it on a really Freudian level.stay strong Courtney, stay true , being a male you have always inspired me.love me for who i am or fuck off.great artist on many levels, don't you love the pharmaceutical choice,lovely.
yeah ,..she,.uh PLUS,.. killed her husband too,..
She’s disgusting and a psychotic liar
@@privatejets9992 stop with that conspiracy thing even Krist has said thats all fallas and the documental Soaked in bleach is so biased
@@gj810 not a conspiracy it’s a troll job. Been established by now anyone who posts comments like that is a loser in life.
@@privatejets9992 based on literally no evidence
She cant really sing but holy shit she can act.
she's all sad until they start talking about her
Well obviously she’s going to be more sad when talking about Kurt, and less sad when talking about herself or other things because obviously she’s not thinking about Kurt as much when talking about those things compared to when she’s talking about Kurt.
Kurt didn't kill himself. Courtney is responsible, you can see it in her eyes.
@@user-uy3eq5hg1s sorry but your comment is stupid
@@emmaavila5932 Very stupid
@@user-uy3eq5hg1s absolutely
Everyone tends to want to blame Courtney. But after listening to an interview Kurt had prior to his demise and reading the suicide note my conclusion is Kurt had mental illness and the drugs pushed him over the edge to do what he did. It's a tragedy but you can't hold someone's hand if suicide is on their mind you have to know drugs enhance these thoughts. His suicide letter screams bipolar. One minute he hates people next he loves everyone. He compared himself to Freddie mercury but mercury had a higher hill to climb with acceptence of being bisexual. It's all sad in the end.
I agree 💯 you're absolutely right on mate👍🏻 im 47 and grew up with all this, great times. I never bought into this" she had Kurt killed" I know shes fucked up.. (aren't we all) but I don't believe in anything..Kurt was unfortunately in a messed up state. Sad. He's sadly missed.
is she really saying that Kurt was a narcissist? seriously..
Many people who have psychotic disorder are good actors who attach the worst parts of their own personality to someone who "steals" attention or garners "too much sympathy."
Also, I hope her next facelift makes her look like a thriller backup dancer.
@@xanhteps648 yes I agree
It seems like she’s confusing charisma with narcissism.
did you know him personally?
@@crustpunk4742 no, but just her saying that actually is wrong
ahh the grouping of pisces boy and cancer woman is heavy ive been through it
You get it.
....says every 15 year old girl ever....
lol just before i read yr comment, as a male cancer i was thinking to myself "i wonder if shes a cancer...i bet she is." and now i know
@@derrickboess5886 If you have ever heard heart shaped box, both of their signs are referenced in this song
I thought you where cancer
Kurt Loder just laughs at anything, doesn't he?
Doyledeth i think he saw threw her BS
Doyledeth Kurt "load of shit" seems enamoured by her too, it's disgusting
He was overrated
I pray to God that if I died under suspicious circumstances that my wife wouldn't rest untill she had answers not just say well I have to get on with my life you know!
Actress. Money hungry. Control. Elitist. Calculated. Cheat on your husband. Smear the person who is weak and loving. Use stereotypes for advantage. Manipulation. Worth more dead than alive.Twist the metaphorical knife. Turn your back on the sick, easy to belittle them when so few understand the grip it takes. So easy to turn the bitch on and off. This is a common problem with marriages. Pixie to the devil in a snap.
These are my opinions. I am very suspicious. So many loose ends and creepy clues. Careers took off after the death. Don't cross Geffen. Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction look for creepy clues. It goes on and on and on. I notice trends.
I believe in karmetic debt.
I am entitled to my opinion.
Watch the Final 24 hrs of Jimi Hendrix. I hope the same conclusion is brought forward soon.
Strange deaths. People afraid to talk. El douche talked struck by a train days later? Do your research people and learn not to be played especially by the ones that you love and trust and divulge your life too.
Talking to lawyers behind your back.
Sick. So sad a loving person was so controlled, it happens to the best of us in all walks of life.
Especially now doesn't have to be murder.
The children of the state.
Again these statements are not directed towards anyone, but there are SNAKES in the grass.
I am entitled to my opinion. Free speech, we still have it right?
Kurt was going to divorce her.shed have lost what she'd gotten used to.her career wouldn't gave done as we'll.IMO.
***** Hole were actually FAR bigger than Nirvana back in the early 90's. Hole were actually a hugely successful band BEFORE Nirvana, not many people know that. Watch some documentaries.
Huhhh? How old are you? I don't want to start a fight but I was born in 81 and remember the scene well enough. Hole was big, they sort of really caught fire when Live Through This came out. Unfortunately that came out the week they found Kurt. There's to many weird things going on this case.
I truly love everyone and I don't want to implicate anyone so I am just going to stop and pray for all those who have suffered from opiates. Be well. Take care. That's what I am going to do.
My comments will self destruct in 5 minutes. I hate Internet blah blah blah
Yeah the only reason she even feels "good" in the slightest is because he's dead. She is such a phony.She got what she wanted, and it disgusts me watching her lie for her own greed and fame. If she wanted to be any kind of a mother, she wouldn't still be a drunk druggie who still isn't their for Francis. She just mind blows me on how evil she is. Eugh.
Oh, shut the fuck up, If you truly knew anything about Courtney, you wouldn't be saying that. Listen to Hole's song "Honey" and try telling me that she killed him. Or watch the performances Hole did shortly after Kurt's death. Look at how destructive Courtney was being on and off stage. She was in pain. Just fucking leave and inform yourself, you fucking moron. Oh, and she's repeatedly said that she doesn't do drugs anymore. She did in the past, but not anymore. Just fuck off.
Meredith Harrison The facts are out and all facts point to murder over suicide. The TRUTH! Courtney has done nothing but lie about everything. Thats a proven fact! Courtney Love says shes not doing drugs and you believe that? You are the fucking moron that needs to shut the fuck up.
They were also saying Kurt may have been seeing someone else there toward the end and Courtney was jealous as fuck doing crazy shit to find out who it was. Here is a true fact for you. Kurt Cobain thought Kristen Pfaff, Courtneys ex bass player was gorgeous, he thought she was so beautiful and he said that he couldnt tell her that because if Courtney found out he thought Kristen was beautiful there would be hell to pay. On April 1st 1994 Kurt bought 2 plane tickets, one for himself and to this day nobody knows who the other ticket was for. When Kristens mother Janet received Kristens belongings after her death there were pages ripped out of her diary, the pages that were ripped out were ones she had written in the week Kurt was missing. Kristen and Kurt both constantly argued with Courtney in the end. there have been people come forward and say that Kurt and Courtney would scream at each other over the phone, it was pretty bad. I think Kurt and Kristen were attracted to each other, I don't know if they were having an affair but it just seems way to coincidental that they both died upon leaving Courtney Love. the people that believe Kurt committed suicide should really research all the facts, the timeline and evidence around his death. its nuts.
None of that "evidence" is substantial or they would've reopened the case by now. Nearly 2 decades later. All too much of the "evidence" that people throw around has been proved wrong, made up, etc. I don't take it seriously. People just don't want to accept the fact that Kurt chose to end his life.
Also, Courtney's not a saint, but she also isn't anywhere near as bad as people constantly try to make her out to be.
Loder laughing the whole way through this interview makes me sick.
It's disgusting.
Right on. He knew all along.
Well back then not many people were suspicious of courtney hell I didn't think about a possible connection until like 10 years ago. So I would not blame loder hes just doing his job.
He’s just taking her lead
@@wigglethemiddle1 plus a real reporter is not supposed to express there own feelings of the person they are interviwing just report the story.thats the different between professional and amature reporting
She acts pretty innocent but when u over emphasize innocence it reveals artificial actions and speech which there is plenty in this interview
agree
totally.a total act.her stage performances are pretty comical how forced it is and her fake ass poop crotch voice
OVER compenSATAN
Oh shut up
If she was a comic book character she would be the Joker...plays dumb while controlling everyone around her.
I’ve never seen Courtney play “dumb”. She isn’t. If she were a man she’d be celebrated not vilified. She’s a fucking awesome rock star.
@@thejjjs7786 Agreed
she would be harley quinn, the joker is billy corgan
Disgusting. Kurt was divorcing her, so the fact that many look to her for insight into his mind is perverse. He did not -need- or want her shitty rockstar ego, it wasn't about ego for Kurt, it was about the music. That's why he's a Legend and she is and always will be a sorry excuse for one.
Wow well said!! Totally agree.
One of the few interviews I've seen Courtney do where she seems real and down to earth.
Down to earth as in "just shot some black tar heron"?
I mean "down to earth" for Courtney.
True. She is so unpredictable.
ivjdivfjalekvvjp You could not read a person if they were bloody and holding a knife and a gun, er they seem ok
She's an actress. And this was the role she decided to play on this day to further her narrative. I hope she rots in hell for what she had done to Kurt.
omg she so creepy.....she be a waitress at Norms if not for kurt.
Everything in me screams she had something to do with kurts death and the lack of REAL emotions come across as a psychopath
Soundgarden on TV before an interview about Kurt Cobain, good times :D
and their faces ...
Kurt's Suicide was due to his pain and will. Let the music live on in his place. We miss ya Kurt!
with upmost respect how do you know that?
@@intomatrix1It was so obvious.. Kurt was struggling. He was depressed, he had addiction problems, and he was overwhelmed with the stress of being a star. He was in pain.
I watched & recorded this when it first aired before the VMA's in '94, I still have this interview & parts of the award show on an old VHS, I was 15 then & still very upset/depressed over Kurt's death. This doesn't feel like it was that long ago, still feels like yesterday.
She says "I'm not psychic but my lyrics are" in literally every interview I've ever seen of hers.
Trying real hard to be Stevie Nicks it seems...
WHY SO MUCH HATE FOR THIS WOMAN? some people here are really sick.Yes she's a drug addict and has serious issues but she's not a murderer.Next thing you'll say is she's the devil.She's not and it's YOU who push her to do more drugs.
It's the lies that bother me. I was a fan, & naively believed the stories she plants in the media, then years later you find it was just spin for her to manipulate sympathy or sell records. I doubt UA-cam comments drive her to drugs, as C. herself says, 'All publicity is good publicity'.
MsTwangMoose All artists like the publicity and the fame. It's part of their job but I think some comment about her are too mean.C. Love has problems but I don't think she 's so evil as some people make her out to be.
Lol, I hope not! It's hard to tell the facts from lies; I liked her as a strong, loud, female icon, she was always interesting, but I wonder now at her possibly negative effects on Kurt, tormenting & pressuring him as she was more about $$$ while he wasn't so grasping, especially after seeing 'Soaked in Bleach'. The number of likes for this vid. is '666' :/
MsTwangMoose I find her more interesting as an actress. I've seen The People vs Larry Flynt and she was very good(maybe because the character she played was similar to her real character) and also in a thriller with Charlize Theron and Kevin Bacon.
***** This woman has- had serious drug issues but I don't believe all those conspiracy theories.She 's not a murderer.That's my opinion.
She started off soooo upset, but didn't take her long to lift up and talk about only herself.
They *asked* her about herself.
I can relate to what she does... your brain does actually start to function again after close bereavement. My dad died when I was 15 and around that 3-6 month period afterwards, I remember it being a great relief to talk and be able to laugh a little about something other than death. It took you away for a little while from the misery cloud that over-hung you. Those moments when you forgot briefly and almost felt a sense of normal were 💜
she doesn't want to be more depressed and keep talking about her husband commiting suicide. if someone you loved commited and people only asked you about that rather than how youre doing you'd change the subject too
@@sillygirl1139 exactly. i don't think these people have even experienced death that way. when mine died, i spent the day talking about movies and hollywood drama and no one would've guessed i was grieving. do they expect her to cry? plus she's been through so much, she's bound to have thicker skin.
exactly what i was thinking
She's so pretty here
netcoms197 even better 😍😘
@@netcoms197 lol
soundgarden looked pissed
Some things I would like to point out if you truly still believe he killed himself:
1) The shotgun was clean and there were no fingerprints, EXCEPT where his hands were. Who the hell has a shotgun that has NO fingerprints on it from regularly holding and moving it around?
2) He had too much heroin to hold a shot gun- 11x the most seasoned heroin addicts lethal dose. INJECTED mind you, would have instantly been unconscious.
3) The casing of the bullet was on the opposite side of where the releasing chamber would have been, making it virtually impossible to have been in the position he was supposedly found with the gun.
4) Courtney had PRACTICE letters with kurts handwriting where she was writing all the letters in the alphabet repeatedly found in her backpack. Coincidence? Absolutely not. Who does that for fun?
5) Courtney Love hired a hitman a couple days before his death, he declined her offer of 50k, but when he came out with the info, he passed a lie detector test with flying colors and was “ran over by a train” dead two days after going public.
6) Kurt called their attorney asking that Courtney be taken out of the will immediately, furthermore, Courtney called their attorney as well asking if there’s anyway to bypass their prenup.
7) this isn’t as compelling because you never know, but everyone who knew him closely INSISTED that he would have never killed himself, that he wasn’t the type of person to kill himself, and that he had been at lower lows before.
8) their “friend” nicknamed Cali, was proven to have been in the main house around the time Kurt would have “killed himself”. With that being said, have you seen this shotgun? If someone was in the house sleeping or not they would have heard that in the greenhouse undoubtedly.
9) the suicide note. If you look at the note, the main body looks to simply be a note to fans about his loss for love of music and feeling like a pos for it. It was titled “boddah” which was his imaginary friend growing up. In my humble opinion, the body of the note was a vented letter to express frustration for the loss of love of his music, that may or may not have actually been released. The bottom part of the note was clearly different than the main body, leaving my suspicions to be that whoever forged the suicide letter looked through his letters, journals, writings, (he did a lot), found one that looked depressing enough, and added to it to make it appear suicidal. The bottom part of the letter has one ‘k’ in it. He had a very distinctive way of spelling his ‘k’ and that was not lined up with the way he did it. That’s just one example of many with that note, but my pure speculation.
10) Courtney was becoming desperate, knew he was leaving, and needed a plan of action and fast. Point blank. She knew det. Cameron, she knew the autopsy professional, she knew a lot of the key players in this case and most likely paid hush money.
some of this info is incorrect althougj i believe that the situation around his death is weird
there were fingerprints on the shotgun they just couldn’t identify who’s
and it was 3X the lethal dose of heroin not 11
Got into nirvana past few months and can see this already. What a joke the police have done
One day this case will be investigated. Sign the petition #justiceforkurt
Also Kurt’s drug kit. That dose would have made him instantly unconscious. How could he have shot up then tidied up his kit when that dose would have killed him instantly? If you were planning to die why clean up at all? And then also have time to shoot yourself with a shotgun? Makes zero sense. If he shot those drugs up himself he would have been found dead with the needle in his arm because it would have put him into cardiac arrest almost immediately. If Courtney didn’t kill him or hire someone to do so then someone else had a motive to kill Kurt because he most certainly didn’t kill himself
How fucking funny how quick her demeanor changed when she’s talking about herself and her career. WOW that solemn depression went away reaaaaal quick
Because most people don't like talking about death dummy that's why she switched a little bit because she feels bad about his death because she said she blames herself for his death
Chris cornell's expression on his face when the guy mention the name courtney love
who knows what kind of very wise thoughts came across Cornell's mind in that very second..
may your soul live forever Chris, in a place far FAR AWAY from true Bitches of Hell such Courtney Hate
Yes I noticed and felt the same.
What if Chris death was not a suicide? what if... i dont know dude, i believe that controversial suicides like this stuff has something more behind the door, if you know what i mean.
"I WANT MY MTV" ....................back
Jennifer Dervin in that case you'll want a time machine
I still, and will forever believe that she killed Kurt.
That is the ONLY interview of Courtney in which she actually appears genuine.
I just wish Kurt knew better.. I wish he was being treated better.. Having a heart as fragile as his needs someone that understands and willing to stand by him through every pain and misery he feels and facing inside. Not someone that as selfish, manipulative and as "i have my own thing" like Courtney. It's such a shame that the universe got them together, while they both were too toxic for eachother.
Girl,please
He tried calling her multiple times the day before he died and the damn hotel wouldn’t put him through. He was a grown ass man and loved Courtney. Just chill.
💀 i’m pretty sure he wrote that hated when people called him naive and delicate, he was a GROWN MAN and none of us really know him outside of music/interviews. you’re parasocial.
Courtneys live singing was on point! Plus she was super sexy in a thrashy way.
Hilarious
courtney was secretly using after his death
G ya think! Before after and during darling. Courtneys= junkie..
It wasn’t a secret lol
So what, I m a Heroin junkie for yrs., too, but I m no murderer - she is...
Worst kept secret in the world. She was a junkie, what did we think she was going to do?
the interviewers like hehehe whatever we know your guilty lol
Oh please eat shit
She's beautiful in this video.
“I’m not psychic but my lyrics are.” Wow. I’m beginning to think you’re much more than psychic… Your husband just committed suicide, how are you promoting yourself at this time?? “Live Through This” is one of my favorite albums ever so this is going to be hard saying this but I’m beginning to really wonder about her involvement in Kurt’s death. I always defended Courtney until recently things just don’t add up. Maybe I just wasn’t paying close enough attention before. Every time I see an interview after Kurt’s death, she seems to be acting/fake crying when she talks about him. I think she has a personality disorder and targeted Kurt from the beginning. They are a classic empath/narcissist couple. The narcissist always destroys the empath in the end. I really hope I’m wrong about this but the more I see, the more I’m convinced. RIP Kurt🥀💫
shut up you silly slag
Thank you for posting this. I agree.
Buzz from the Melvins said that Kurt was desperately trying to find a way to sever ties with her without losing everything he worked for.
I used to dismiss the conspiracy theory as nuts but there are far too many strange things around it, especially her behavior here.
When my best friend died of an overdose, it took me years to be able to talk about it without breaking down. She talks about it as if he’s just looking down and wanted to be remembered like this or that - and he was her husband, the father of her child
Something ain’t right!
She was on heroin and every narcotic pill you can think of, she was NUMB. That's kind of the point of using.
I 100% agree with you! However, I had just read that Courtney was diagnosed with mild Autism at the age of nine. This can be the reason she acts the way she does. Please Google it cuz it is interesting. Her behaviour and lack of empathy could be from that or she really is a monster
I agree.
When my aunt, who raised me, died I went out for sushi and shot the shit with the rest of my family for hours. I was able to talk about it right away, and it took me months to cry at all. I don't understand why so many of the people in this comment section are incapable of looking outside of themselves to realize how differently grief can manifest in different people.
She is such an actress. I can not stand her.
+Nyree Feijoo,then why did you come here to watch her interview?Are you masochist?
probably
wanna meet?
+Caroline Smith portrays
Nyree Feijoo I agree!!!! she's loving every minute of it too. that's the worst part.
26 years ago he left us, today is the worst day of the year for me
RIP Kurt Cobain
02.20.1967-04.05.1994💔😭🙏
It'll be ok. Sometimes special ed gets to go to the zoo.
I never realized that Kurt Cobain and Layne Staley died on the same day of the year.
This woman is happy!She won the financial lotto with Kurt's death.Saying "she feels likes Cher".disgusting.
Kurt was trying to divorce her and get full custody but never had the chance because she hired Allen Wrench to murder him and later burned her divorce papers telling a friend it's all mine now. It also helped she was sleeping with Sgt. Don Cameron the lead detective on the case who was helping her clean her tracks.
nobody around them was aware of any divorce. No divorce attorneys were ever contacted, no papers ever drawn up and they weren't even separate at the time. Kurt would not have gotten custody of a dog at that time let alone a child. She was sleeping with Sgt Don Cameron? LOL yea that's complete BS.
I have a more complete version of this in interview up now on my channel Don't forget part 2 also ua-cam.com/video/Js6VznDashA/v-deo.html
I like how she is just going to give away his material but when Kurt Loder asks her if she knew any of the material was good at 7:14 she proceeds to light a cigarette and became VERY uncomfortable... almost like she is at the shrink.
I'd never seen anybody's body language scream "guilty" so loudly. Thanks for the case study, CL.
sounds like there was def bad blood between them before he died
ermmmmm no. Courtney told him that he dropped the baby when he was high, ands he told the public in an interview that she said it pretty nastily. She also told us that she regrets telling him and that she feels guilty for his death. Before you go beleiving rumours do some fucking research
Diana Moore yeah right like he wanted to divorce her. That's why she's still free cause people don't even dig.
@@missjuly4191 What interview did he say that she tol him that?
Motive
@@micnik4793Barbara Walters
i feel old now, because i know who the interviewer is n i saw this in 94. seems like yesterday
when i was at my wifes sisters funeral her mother was joking with people and laughing, but in private she cried... im just saying, you never know how someone will act in tragity. even if she killed him, you dont know how she would act. no one really knows. so her actions here i dont think should count on the weight on if yoou think she killed him.
Hate me all you want but I do not see what Kurt saw in this woman...
I completely agree
No one does. But depression/ lack of support mixed with drugs can really interrupt rationality obviously. Idky but she seems like a sewer rat & he's the only reason she's famous. This interview blows shit.
Well, and in his journals he wrote "bipolar opposites attract" maybe he meant that he was attracted to the fact that she was completely different than him. All I know is it makes me really sad.
***** well pretty much everyone this women comes into contact with ends up hating her, so Im sure he would have too if he didnt already. based on what some of his old friends have said they argued and faught all the time
+B LaLa every couple argues and fights. You should read Cobain's journals - then you'll see what she saw in him.
She says “We went mountain biking we went camping , we were damn normal” can’t picture Kurt and Courtney doing those things lol then again I didn’t know them personally, just sounds weird and she’s known to be a hypocrite in interviews
I have went through alot of these archived YT videos over the last week in response to the Hbo documentary. It is such and incredible story. I look back on that period and how hugely profound this was. Noone could have been prepared for the huge overnight celebrity The art is truly a game changer. Kurt launches off of his anger found in youth. As he steps forward and seeks security through his first girlfriend....and then the band....and then Courtney...he starts to bloom. The crossover point of a happy person who has a baby and a new wife is to embrace them and transfer the energy. He got lost. Instead of releasing himself from his anger ....which made his celebrity and art so pure....he became conflicted. He did not feel worthy of happiness. In fact he punished that part in him for even considering happiness. It is a common reaction for someone who is self abusive.
Maturity allows us to release the past and live for the moment and future. Courtney is a symbol of that conflict within all of us. He had the opposite reaction...fear of happiness. He doubled down on heroine and resulting depression. Courtneys attempts at sobriety intervention in my mind is a recognition by Kurt that she was right. Ultimately he did not accept himself....he rejected his drug use and his youth that drove his anger. His escape however was not to go through painful rehab. On a basic level from his childhood... He felt unloved...kicked around...and he hated that person inside of him. We all experience this transformation...without drugs to magnify the fear of growing up and letting go of the past.
His reaction was to take control and bury the past. He killed that person. At the expense to humanity and what he was about to give humanity in the future. His underlying anger and pain was so profound that it consumed him, but also powered his celebrity. And this is the ultimate conflict.
His art lives on forever as the most profound form of pure rock and roll ever constructed. It is a sad sad sad ending. He killed the beast within. He felt naked and exposed with the potential of going through life clean and sober. This is a message in a way to all of us. Allow yourself love and happiness and allow the past to grow old. Rock and Roll legends dont realize how important they are. We connect with their emotions through their art. I will always wonder.
Omg your dumb as fuck it’s way too obvious she had him killed listen to her phone call recordings days leading up to his death she constantly got caught in lies and slip ups staging his death that was overlooked by the Seattle police department because of her screaming suicide suicide. She was desperate not to get divorced and left with no money or career she knew he was divorcing her he told rosemary carrol before he went on stage he was divorcing her. It’s plain as day you mfs are just too dense to see through her lies somehow 😂😭or you can tell that the amount of heroin he had in his system is 3 times the LETHAL dose… buddy if you took 3 times the lethal dose you wouldn’t be able to grab a shotgun and shoot yourself I just don’t see how that can be just written off by you mfs
no his best time as a rock star was before he met you
He wasnt a rockstar before he met her
1:59 Courtney is Using Kurts Amp Rig, that Kurt used on the In Utero Tours, the 2 Mesa Boogie Studio Preamps & 2 Crest Audio 4801 Poweramps.
she wines about being the media's focus of the band being directed at her, that she feels like 'cher' - then smashcut to the music video where she's the only one lit. Then consider that now none of her band is in 'her band' anymore.
"Im not psychic but my lyrics are".....the words of someone who is guilty, I mean come on people???/
+B LaLa OMG,,,i got goose bumps coz u metioned that,coz i heard her repeat that phrase over and over and over again,and it doesnt sound right,coz it sounds like she knew exactly what's gonna happen and she wrote about it!!! and that like "i fake it so real i am beyond fake"??? I feel like we all been fooled ,but also i think she wasnt the only one,coz no way she would be able to pull it off on her own,im not gonna be surprised if the whole MTV staff would be behind it or something coz they all cashed in on Kurt's death and his legacy,,i only wonder how can she live her life without being haunted by his spirit or something....
+Kat Tur "without being haunted by his spirit or something.".. Before believing in ghosts, you should start believing in proper education. Your English is as messed up and incoherent as your conspiracy hoopla which borders on the paranormal.
SovMod,OK and you have PhD in fucking English language or what?!!As a matter of fact,English is my second language,but I am proud of the fact that I can speak it fluently and I can even understand the stupidly of the comments ppl like you leave all over the place,so I wonder how many languages ur ass can speak fluently, huh???And my education has nothing to do with my opinion on that particular subject! If u like being fooled by ppl who committed a crime and lied to to the whole world about it,it is your choice too,you are part of that herd of sheep who blindly believe everything they being told to,not using their brain or common sense whatsoever!!!Hopefully one day the justice will be served,and I strongly believe in that,and untill that day I can voice my "conspiracy hoopla" any fucking way I wish and desire,who's gonna stop me?You,English professor???Haha,go buy in on more bullshit that media feeds you,or may be learn something new,like a second fucking language for example!!!!!Fuck Uuuuuuuuu
narcisistic and sociopathic lying piece of shit.looks like a chicken nugget dipped in poop.skanktard rawk
She was lovin every second of his ass kissing too!
My gut instinct makes me really think there is acting going on in this interview, as well as the barbara walters interview she did after his death, its just strange and sad
there is no doubt she can act. I used to think she was innocent and a victim. nothing could be further form the truth
@sabbracadabra would you put a video up
@sabbracadabra np .
courtney should be prison
@@lw9553 The video that's being mentioned is on UA-cam just have to find it 😊
It's impresive, everyone throw shit -many misoginistic crap - to Courtney Love. She is not a saint, that's clear, she had some guilt in Cobain's mental downfall and hard drug use, that's true, but now everyone claims that she is an assasin. "Kurt & Courtney" and "Soaked in Bleach" did the job very well, specially the last one, cause is more "serious" documentary and more believable to people who always was suspicious and always hate her from the begininng. "Kurt & Courtney" was crap, and i know people who believe that he was murdered and said it so. That doc was bullshit, so, they had to do more serious job and came with "Soaked... which was delayed in its release to match with "Montage of Heck", which is not very good.
The best documentary for me is "About a Son".
Shane Heart it was obvious that some irritated fella were gonna insult. i watch soaked in bleach, but im not gonna respond with insults, that shows that you are the moron (with all respect) cheers.
+Aiodhan O'Connellan it's very obivous he has murdered.
+Aiodhan O'Connellan common sense....
+Tomás Orellana im sorry, but im going to have to believe the former president of the American forensics society when he says the case needs to be reopened because of obvious inconsistencies, not some ass clown who obviously has no clue what he is talking about. ;-) jackass
"About a Son" is amazing! I completely agree with you!
Always has the cup of tea to show us that she’s definitely not a sociopath.
Do sociopaths not like tea? Could Courtney just not get thirsty? People r crazy
@@laurenhoffman2751 Project much?! Try to think more laterally.
I’m with you.
I agree I think someone was in that room with him. Maybe Kurt injected himself with a low dose and while he was nodding out someone else had a lethal dose ready in another needle and injected him with it then they stuck the gun in his mouth. If you read the case facts. It says he had two puncture marks on his arm and he was already clean before he even went to rehab. He must have been tempted by someone to use and they set him up. I say justice for Kurt this was murder
All the comments hating on courtney if u hate her and get angry just by looking at her why are you fucking watching courtney clips?
Kurt Loader is a mouthpiece for this hussy. The release of Live Through This garnered SO much more attention as a result of Cobain's death....please let's be real.
I remember listening to the radio to the very first public announcement Courtney Love made immediately after the death of Kurt. And she was so quick to promote Hole I was shocked. From that day to this I couldn't help but feel she was involved in his death, and I refuse to listen to her music.
And that "unfinished music" has been exploited to death since then.
She says rite off the bat.. "I'm not psychic but my lyrics are".. the name of her album is "live through this".. Dear God if they ever convicted her of Kurt's murder.. She is the most VIOLE person In this world!! Because that would mean she wrote lyrics of her up coming album, while Kurt was still alive knowing she was going to have him killed
Yep......Kurt didn't get out fast enough. He asked his lawyer to take her out of
his will and she had him sign a pre-nuptual because she was making more
money than him when they got married. He was divorcing her. An evil
manipulative black widow.
That album was written long before Kurt commented suicide. Then released just after his death. What people forget is that Hole had a record contract before Nirvana
I adore this version of Courtney Love. Real. She did what she could and I can't say that I would be 'normal' if I had the kind of life that she lived. I love the idea that she forgets the cameras are there and she talks to Loder as a person and a friend. A difficult wife of a difficult man. RIP Kurt xoxo
I'd also like to add that if the people closest to Kurt and Courtney don't blame her, then take that into consideration. Trust the people who lived it and stop relying on the hype that she's to blame. It's so sad to read all the hate and unproven 'truths' that people continue refer to in order to perpetuate this shaming of Courtney. She may not be innocent when it comes to their issues but she lost her husband in a very tragic way and we will never know what it was truly like between them.
@@Heidihoe85 “unproven truths”??????😂😭😭😭😭😭😭😂you are a fucking dumbass go listen to her phone call recordings she constantly got caught in lie after lie trying to stage his death your an idiot u sound like you were a fan of her music or something which is surprising her music is literally dog shit 😂😭
Exactly, you have to go back to work because that's what adults do. Do you think Kurt would have stopped creating music if she had died? lol I'm beginning to think you guys hate her because she had Kurt and you didn't. He loved her so she must have great qualities. You Go Woman!!!
he would have probably used the pain to write another album lets face it! They were obviously so in love with each other. Dont know what I would do if that happened to me, I probably would have joined him
They were so in love with each other that they were in the middle of a divorce...
Julianna Anda you hit the nail on the head there, people who don't own a house or car or have a child don't understand, mainly kids living in there mums spare room thinking up more conspiracy BS
Kurt had already been established as a superstar Courtney how to prove herself and what a coincidence Kurt is going which means Nirvana is going timing is everything
10.) The Seattle medical examiner, Dr Nikola Hartshorne (Dr NH) is a friend of CL from before he was a doctor. He had promoted Courtney's first husband, James Moreland's, band in the '80's. So no surprise when he rules for CL's version of events, as a suicide.
11.) Dr NH is also the ME for the death of CL's bassist, Kristen Pfaff (KP) who was killed just weeks after the murder of KC, and after being given heroin by another Hole band member, Erick Erlandson (EE). CL was very jealous over KC and KP's new relationship.
12.) EE is at KC's house the day he died after CL asked him to go to the house to look for her husband.
13.) Three months after KC was murdered, and just weeks after KP was killed, Dr NH, who by all accounts was rising up the ladder at work, leaves to live in Florida. His Seattle coworkers are all surprised.
14.) Three months after KC was murdered, DT, of the SPD, is murdered by two guys who set him up to be killed by pretending to have a flat tire.
15.) Lead on the KC case, Detective Cameron (DC), and the boss of DT, is fired three years after the murder of KC for bribery and corruption. He had been with SPD for 39 years.
16.) No fingerprints on the shotgun or shells.
So, I think CL had EE give KC a mickey in his root beer (the Valium found in KC's blood) and then have him give a massive dose of heroin when KC was already passed out. EE then leaves and Allen Wrench comes in alone, instructed by CL, to get the shotgun she knew KC had purchased with his buddy Dylan Carlson, and to use it on KC. Dylan admits he told CL about the shotgun prior. Then CL has EE give her rival, KP, an OD of heroin. EE is the only person to be seen entering her residence that night. He left 30 minutes later. So then CL hires some thugs to pretend a flat tire on the route of off duty DT and have him killed. Dead men tell no tales. In 2002 Dr NH dies. In 2022 CL settles out of court with her son in-law, Isaiah Silva, for his kidnapping and attempted murder.
they found trace elements of valium in Kurt's system and Silva made up the entire story. Kind of like your other hero El Duce who also made up his story.
@@scooterruns9355 how would you know that?
@@ThisIsF-dUp its public knowledge. Silva never offered a shred of proof for any of his claims and the judge gave him nothing but the guitar. Silva made up his story and so did El Duce. you're gullible.
I don’t see how any one could blame her. She speaks so fondly and is protective of him. I can’t imagine the world watching and analyzing you while you grieve.
Oh isn't this nice, shortly after having her husband killed she gets to focus on her own music career. This woman is so insanely sketchy. She almost certainly paid one of her druggie friends to kill Kurt.
Almost certainly? Bro....
Quite the contrary. Narcissists hate themselves. Narcissism is self-obsession on a basis of complete infatuation with your every flaw and shortcoming. Narcissists may compensate for this self-loathing by projecting a facade of self-love. Really, narcissism is simply self-obsession. That obsession is rarely about what you possess, and more often about that which you lack.
She was talking about herself
This is exactly how it was broadcast when it was aired by Mtv before the VMA show ( I guess you are saying it aired before that also) it does seems odd that they would cut out every part when she started to cry during a rebroadcast but anything is possible. The way it was presented here definitely makes Courtney look bad. too bad no one else recorded that version I would love to see it.
She keeps opening her legs and lifting up her skirt and he's keeping his legs crossed and twirling his wedding ring lol
huh? i think you need to go to the doctor and check your eyes
People stop saying courtney love is a bad person or that she wanted kurt cobain dead shes just had not the easiest type of life and its still probably effecting her in her life but she has been trying her hardest and still is . A person can hold so much till the day they have to let it go and shes had her outbursts maby is to get all that stress out of her or maby thats just who she is . So am gona say it agian she did not kill her husband maby she had made mistakes throughout thier relationship or had fights i dont know but i do know that no one is perfect . So plzz LEAVE HER ALONE!
Euridice Diaz The people who most strongly think Courtney had Kurt killed are those who cant cope with the idea that they are members of the audience which Kurt decided he'd rather be dead than to ever play for again.
she's a whore
maybe when shes in a 3d world prison
@@bretthernan7589 and the private detective she hired, oh and the God mother to their daughter or ex God mother.
You're ignorant !!!!
yay there were only bits and pieces of this interview. thanks!
i love the fact that she is soooo TRUTHFULL!
Love sarcasm :))))
Bahahahha
Except for the fact that she murdered him😅
The death of her husband was part of her plan and actually an element of her "work"....creating FAME for herself. So she didn't skip a beat there because essentially his death was merely grist to the mill.
+Knucklehead Wow did you think this through yourself or did you hire a private investigator to guide you through the motions? Oh wait some hired help made some covert (wouldnt want to get any nasty trouble in court now, would we?) comments in some fourth-rate documentary that no sane person takes seriously, and all of sudden, after 20 years, the truth that all involved close people,bandmembers, wfe, lawyers managements and friend ignored, is revealed?
With such enlightment, I might hire you to provide me with lottery predictions.
UA-cam sometimes beats the hell out of blabbermouth - and THAT is a very strong statement.
+SovMod - Thank you for your response. My comment summarizes several factors that have come to light over the years since Kurt Cobain died. Not only this "rock-umentary." Including info in different interviews of CL in person herself - her own contradictions, attitudes, and behaviors in other rock relationships before and since KC's death. People close to a tragic situation - like band members & family members in this case - are too close to the situation and in their shock and grief and do not see "the forest for the trees". CL had manipulated the media into thinking "suicide" in a campaign long before the man's death. He was cured of a long standing abdominal illness, he was asking his lawyer to file for divorce (and so was she), he had not signed his will, and he devotedly loved his daughter....these facts do not add up to suicide and furthermore some of these are not facts most people close to him would have known.The crime scene investigation was a farce - the most knowledgeable forensic scientists is the field - in fact the doctor who wrote the book on crime scene investigation - have weighed in on how inappropriately the entire matter was handled.Her comment in this "interview" where Kurt Loder asks her - "How can you get on with your career right now following the loss of your husband?" She answers - "Well this is what I do....etc." - Bet you dollars to donuts the Last Will and Testament was in Probate - that takes quite a long time to finalize - and also the Will was in question since it was not signed by the deceased - and Courtney being practical knew that she needed money until that was done. Of course I am only guessing. But it is a pretty good guess. To quote Proverbs - "The guilty flee when none pursue..." - she has gotten away with murder for hire - and she threatens anyone who challenges or opposed her in any way on any subject with law suits and worse - physical harm. Look at the journalist who was writing about them - she left town when she was threatened.When lawyers won't support her in this she instructs her assistants to fabricate letters from lawyers - as in the case of her former assistant who refused and who countersued and took a settlement off of CL. CL had the murder scene - the entire garage - demolished. Is this the same woman who sat with mourners and gave them personal objects of the lost artist? Her current comment, "More people visit here than the Space Needle (in Seattle)" - you would think she would appreciate the fans continued support - not disdain their presence. Where is her sincerity now? Just as Kurt Cobain was polite, intelligent, and thoughtful in his interviews - She is calculating and manipulative of information and hostile. These are basic character traits shining through. If you want to see one of the Queens of Queen - Look at Tina Turner live in concert. CLove on her best day WISHES she had the talent that Tina Turner - a LADY - has in her pinky finger. But she is very clever and has put herself amongst the best of the best on that list. If outright crass behavior and blind ambition is what gets you there - as well as lack of talent - CL should be number one.
Nope, I didn,t saw another broadcast of this interview. I saw this same interview the same day live it was showed on MTV on 1994, I was 13 years old I was a nirvana fan and on that date I still was shocked about kurt death, so I wasn,t going to miss the view live of this interview. It is cut my friend, if you don,t believe me is ok..but I remember everytime courtney started to cry in this interview, MTV cut it off and went to advertisement, because it was live not recorded and modified like this
Courtney did not kill kurt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
were not saying she did- but an undetermined verdict based on the circumstances should be instated.
Because suicide and murder are both speculative.