My GOD! The sound starting at 5:15 is frikkin’ magical! Once again you’ve done it Sir Daniel Fisher, your demos are my first stop whenever a new synth is about to be dropped :)
Dear Daniel, you have sold me more synths than I can count. You’re a great synthesizer player I’ve seen to date. The sounds you pull out of these tools are simply amazing. I wish U wud make instructional videos so I could learn more from you. Your biggest fan, Noël Avalos!
Hi Noel Avalos. You comment touched me so deeply that I've made an entire series of synthesizer instructional videos called "Synth Clips" just for you. You can find them at: ua-cam.com/video/6uPBAj72pvw/v-deo.html It's OK if you want to share the link with other synth friends :-) -_Daniel_
This is really a outstanding Synthesizer! The Combination of Digital Ozillators with analogue Filters... is such amazing... I love this Maschine😍And i never give up... for nobody... Thanks Daniel for this Great Demonstration👍👍👏👏
Love the BIG sound starting at the 9 minute mark! A well designed User Interface! Novation is going to sell a TON of the Summit. What a great value! Sweetwater adds value to anything you buy from them. Daniel Fisher is an example of some of the people that SW employs. SW also provides an additional 2 year warranty on hardware they sell. Free shipping in the US.
Thank you SW / DF / AV folks! The problem with this, and your other demos, is they are too short. Thank you again for the awesome playing sir - cheers!
Good point. We have the product demos, we have the deep dives and synth techniques demos, but we need a “Daniel Just Plays Stuff” series. Kind of like Nick Batt’s “Friday Fun” vids on the Sonic State YT channel.
Yeah, that's what sealed the deal for me. The one thing holding me back on Summit was that most demos sounded very modern and effects-y. And that's great, don't get me wrong, but I would hate to not be able to dial in your synth staples like this one.
Oh My, its the modern DW8000. This is the hybrid I have been waiting for. On the more basic patches, it certianly has that character. So when mine dies, I will have something to replace it with.
Hi marcwalravens. I have a free synth tutorial series called SYNTH CLIPS: ua-cam.com/play/PLlczpwSXEOybYYaBCTcjxxKz1QmxytbIf.html Plus my SYNTH STRATEGIES series: ua-cam.com/play/PLlczpwSXEOyZ89Z_iJvcc2rGk0gw3M_I3.html You can also find every video I've ever made by searching "Daniel Fisher Sweetwater" in UA-cam: ua-cam.com/users/results?search_query=daniel+fisher+sweetwater&sp=CAI%253D -_Daniel_
i have to agree with most people, you know your stuff, you should if you dont already do courses in a class room, you would earn a good living, excellent stuff my friend
Hi Brian. Be sure to check out my series of synthesizer tutorials called "SYNTH CLIPS". I've already made 20 of them, and will be making more soon. Be sure to write topic requests for future episodes (just comment on any of Synth Clips videos). ua-cam.com/play/PLlczpwSXEOybYYaBCTcjxxKz1QmxytbIf.html Thanks for watching! -_Daniel_
Officially the Peak isn't a rackmount.. although it's almost unbelievable they didn't think of racking it when they designed it in that form factor :P Thankfully there's 3rd party ears for it now though I think. Summit was a great idea for the keyboard version
Hi Ramon, and B.I.G., I totally consider ending on the 1-chord with an added 2 and #4 (but no b7) a great way to finish off a "brand logo" type of song. If you listen for it, you'll find that lots of movie production logo themes end that way. Thanks for watching!
Sweetwater ok I see what you were going for and by the way I’m not trying to be a musical snob. I thought it was a great info for the Novation “Summit” very creative. Thanks for the reply Enjoy what’s left of this summer. And when you get around to it can we get that 2nd installment for the Digitone Keys. I’m getting ready to dive into that machine later this week
Had a Novation Peak, but sold all my synthesizers in 2018. Bought the Waldorf Quantum this summer, wonder if the summit will go where the Quantum can not? So far the only other have to get synthesizer feels like the DS OB-6 Damn nice sounding machine.
Rikard Latvala I have both Quantum and OB 6 and can vouch the OB 6 is very lush and like nothing else, the oscillators and filter are beautiful sounding. I think the pro 3 looks like another must have too. I keep coming back to the Summit simply because it’s sounds great on the demos. Very tempting but maybe overkill when you own the magnificent Quantum.
"Now it's time to play it..." First sound is literally what you'd hear if Dracula played an old organ and you stumbled into his castle in Transylvania. ...And this alone is enough to sell me.
This might be a stupid question... Will any sustain pedal work for the novation summit or do i need to buy a specific one? Can you make a tutorial showing how to choose what effects an expression pedal modulates when used? New to synth's and any help would be greatly appreicated!
Hi Jack. The Summit can auto-detect a footswitch's polarity, so pretty much any Sustain Pedal will work in either of the two jacks. The Expression Pedal should be a non-Yamaha type. Here are my videos about Expression Pedals: ua-cam.com/video/KUHcKYffQgI/v-deo.html and ua-cam.com/video/fcc8scMQIrE/v-deo.html -_Daniel_
Hi joeyxl3456. The L/R Outs are going directly to the Zoom F8N Multitrack Field Recorder mentioned in the above Info section. There's also a link there if you want to learn more about it. Thanks for watching!
Dear Daniel. I’m always in awe of your synth skills. I saw all the wonderful sound you pulled out of the Peak b4. What I need to know is if you can pull specific Oberheim OBX & OBXa sounds out of the Summit. I love the sounds of Van Halen’s 1984 album, & Rush’s Moving pictures albums. I’m not 100% sold on DSI OB6 as I’ve owned both the OBXa & Prophet 600’s in the past. To me the OB6 sound just isn’t up to par. That being said. Thank you in advance, and I’m thinking the Novation Summit might just be the ticket for me. Please tell me honestly if you think the Summit is capable of getting the sounds I need, & mentioned?
Excellent synth (and excellent demo anyway). What I missed a little were ‘analog’ bread & butter sounds. Does the Summit have something like the oscillator slop known from Prophets? Otherwise I’m afraid the FPGA oscillators would sound too stable.
Hi Rayy"s Musikladen. There are two parameters for this: Drift and Diverge. They are used to create the "slop" found in older oscillators. Thanks for watching! -_Daniel_
Honestly no. The moog one has one of the most sterile, uninteresting sounds I've heard on an analog poly, not to mention really bad bugs in the firmware
what are the fundamentals useful to learn to become proficient in synths. how can one learn about them and their parameters... all the knobs & sht lol ? ?
Christopher Roland If you want classic vintage tones, go for the Rev2. If you want to experiment with brand new sonic capabilities with FM and wavetable, go for the summit.
Christopher Roland The build quality of the Summit is much better than the Rev2. I'm not a big fan of the Rev 2, but I am a fan of Sequential. I would get one of their higher priced synths if I were to get another another Sequential synth.
No contest. Peak hands down. The only thing the DM12 has on this is the price and the FX section. And I’m saying that as a former DM12 owner. Sold it because it was too limiting. This is the synth I’ve been waiting for.
I will add the sequencer is handy in the DM12 especially for sequencing parameters. And there are some fun under the hood options. But for sound, user interface, playability, overall badassery this synth beats Dm12 In my opinion.
I went to a synth expo IN LA and they were the only two synths that sounded AMAZING. The textures of the sounds are so rich. Way different league than everything else displayed.
That’s my set-up (big-boi keyboards, anyway) … Matriarch, Summit, Rev2, Pro 3, and my old MS2000B 🙂👍🏼 Not many bases left uncovered (lots of eurorack interaction, even), tho’ a Hydrasynth would give me a more modern fully-digital sound, and that all-important Poly-AT keyboard … 🤤
Between the 2, I would chose Matriarch. I have one on the way. But I’m heavily considering adding this and have a simple but effective 2 synth set up. They’re really 2 completely different synths with different purposes.
i'm in the same place. Either would be pricey so I can't do both. My big question is, can I live without presets? I had a Vermona Performer and at least you didn't have to patch it. That might be part of the allure, but never seeing that patch again? I've had patch based synths since I bought a Poly61 in 1985. I really don't think I can go backwards. I'm sick of all the tech stuff I have to do to record my one man band. Now I have to program it with wires too?> That said, the sound of the Matriarch is perfect. A fun time to be alive in the synth world.
I'm sorry, but there is no way I could justify $2200 for 1 synth. It sounds great tho. Not $2200 great (does anything really?), but still some nice sounds
The Rev2 is an excellent analog synth, but somehow limited compared to the Summit. They perfectly complement each other. I’m gonna have them both by mid September - I hope.
@@_User333 I won’t get the Rev2. I’ve had it since April 2018. And it is not really “inferior”, just not as versatile. It can, however, produce huge pads and even CS80-like sounds. I’d rather use the Summit as a replacement for my crappy Prophet X, i.a.w. the crazy stuff (FM, wave tables etc.) and hook up the Rev2 for analog (more or less) bread & butter sounds.
@@RayyMusik Ah ok. Sounds like youre well versed on the gear and quite a bit in your studio for a while. The Prophet X is fairly new and you could sell it which would easily cover the cost of the Summit plus a good 4-voice synth.
This deserves a standing Novation!!!!
Clever! Thanks!
Sweetwater thank YOU!!!! You guys are awesome!!
I see what you did there.
There's summit wrong with you 😂
@ 😂😂😂😂😂 forgive me for I have synth
My GOD! The sound starting at 5:15 is frikkin’ magical! Once again you’ve done it Sir Daniel Fisher, your demos are my first stop whenever a new synth is about to be dropped :)
Thanks, Justin! Highly-powered polyphony is truly a magical thing!
Looking for my first synth. This thing makes me pretty much throw away my "must be full analog" requirement. Sounds perfect to my ears.
Love it. Sounds amazing, and moving stuff from menu diving to direct knobs is just the right move. Way to go, Novation!
Dear Daniel, you have sold me more synths than I can count. You’re a great synthesizer player I’ve seen to date. The sounds you pull out of these tools are simply amazing. I wish U wud make instructional videos so I could learn more from you. Your biggest fan, Noël Avalos!
Hi Noel Avalos. You comment touched me so deeply that I've made an entire series of synthesizer instructional videos called "Synth Clips" just for you. You can find them at:
ua-cam.com/video/6uPBAj72pvw/v-deo.html
It's OK if you want to share the link with other synth friends :-) -_Daniel_
This is really a outstanding Synthesizer! The Combination of Digital Ozillators with analogue Filters... is such amazing... I love this Maschine😍And i never give up... for nobody... Thanks Daniel for this Great Demonstration👍👍👏👏
Being a brand new SW customer I've got to say that I'm really enjoying all those videos you're posting. Love having an overview of a product.
Love the BIG sound starting at the 9 minute mark! A well designed User Interface! Novation is going to sell a TON of the Summit. What a great value! Sweetwater adds value to anything you buy from them. Daniel Fisher is an example of some of the people that SW employs. SW also provides an additional 2 year warranty on hardware they sell. Free shipping in the US.
Thank you SW / DF / AV folks! The problem with this, and your other demos, is they are too short. Thank you again for the awesome playing sir - cheers!
Good point. We have the product demos, we have the deep dives and synth techniques demos, but we need a “Daniel Just Plays Stuff” series. Kind of like Nick Batt’s “Friday Fun” vids on the Sonic State YT channel.
Great demo of this synth. It makes me like it even more.
Thanks for the tasteful playing, some of the best in a synth demo I've ever heard.
Woo, been waiting for this one! Great stuff Dan!
Fantastic video Daniel!
I'm hypnotized by these sounds.
Tweaks that release unpredictable sounds from this synthesiser is magnificent 🤖
I own a peak. That's super. Summit makes it complete ! Helluva Synth !
That layered brass patch from 8:48 wow! Great demo
Lost For Words that that patch is fantastic. Anyone who thinks this thing can’t sound analog...just listen to that patch!
Yeah, that's what sealed the deal for me. The one thing holding me back on Summit was that most demos sounded very modern and effects-y. And that's great, don't get me wrong, but I would hate to not be able to dial in your synth staples like this one.
Pretty inspirational instrument. Bladerunner returns....
There's like a lost 1983 Jarre album in these sounds.
I just subbed 'cause I believe in Daniel Fisher.
What a Synth!
I never should have watched this. I must get those sounds!
10:59 I see it has a button labelled "Vangelis"
Absolutely brilliant sir.
I've got a Supernova 2 and it is a killer synth.
Love my Supernova II. Wish they would make it again. It was ahead of its time when it came out.
Yes please.
At around the 10:30 mark or a little after, that patch/playing sounded like something an updated Genesis song might have, and that's no complaint...
Oh My, its the modern DW8000. This is the hybrid I have been waiting for. On the more basic patches, it certianly has that character.
So when mine dies, I will have something to replace it with.
cosmic sound :)
Awesone!!!
Crazy sound editing here wow!!!
Really love it Daniel... the soundtexture of this synth is really breathtaking fenomenal....
Do you give internet tutorials about sounddesign on synths? I want to go to the top in this subject...
Hi marcwalravens. I have a free synth tutorial series called SYNTH CLIPS:
ua-cam.com/play/PLlczpwSXEOybYYaBCTcjxxKz1QmxytbIf.html
Plus my SYNTH STRATEGIES series:
ua-cam.com/play/PLlczpwSXEOyZ89Z_iJvcc2rGk0gw3M_I3.html
You can also find every video I've ever made by searching "Daniel Fisher Sweetwater" in UA-cam:
ua-cam.com/users/results?search_query=daniel+fisher+sweetwater&sp=CAI%253D
-_Daniel_
i have to agree with most people, you know your stuff, you should if you dont already do courses in a class room, you would earn a good living, excellent stuff my friend
Hi Brian. Be sure to check out my series of synthesizer tutorials called "SYNTH CLIPS". I've already made 20 of them, and will be making more soon. Be sure to write topic requests for future episodes (just comment on any of Synth Clips videos). ua-cam.com/play/PLlczpwSXEOybYYaBCTcjxxKz1QmxytbIf.html
Thanks for watching! -_Daniel_
@@sweetwater i play ambient soundscapes, atmospheric, and im looking for a new synth, have you any ideas what has plenty of soft pads.
At $2k, nice price for a seriously nice piece of equipment. I gotta get me one of these!
it's a bargain compared to what DSI charge for their stuff.
@Boofsquad Even then, DSI is way overpriced I feel. I mean, it's mostly machine made.. Not?
Lawrence O isn’t the 16 voice rev 2 cheaper than this?
9:04 awesome
This is going on my Cyber Monday wish list.
Officially the Peak isn't a rackmount.. although it's almost unbelievable they didn't think of racking it when they designed it in that form factor :P Thankfully there's 3rd party ears for it now though I think. Summit was a great idea for the keyboard version
Man why didn’t you resolve that suspension at the beginning had me hanging on I’m still hanging
Ramon Key LOL! I thought the same thing!
Hi Ramon, and B.I.G., I totally consider ending on the 1-chord with an added 2 and #4 (but no b7) a great way to finish off a "brand logo" type of song. If you listen for it, you'll find that lots of movie production logo themes end that way. Thanks for watching!
Sweetwater ok I see what you were going for and by the way I’m not trying to be a musical snob. I thought it was a great info for the Novation “Summit” very creative. Thanks for the reply Enjoy what’s left of this summer. And when you get around to it can we get that 2nd installment for the Digitone Keys. I’m getting ready to dive into that machine later this week
7:14 night in tunesia modern version? :D anyways I really cant decide which one to get. This or the nord wave 2.
Did you decide what to get
One does not simply ask Daniel to step away from a Summit after 12 minutes. One shows respect and gives them another 2 hours next time...
Had a Novation Peak, but sold all my synthesizers in 2018. Bought the Waldorf Quantum this summer, wonder if the summit will go where the Quantum can not? So far the only other have to get synthesizer feels like the DS OB-6 Damn nice sounding machine.
Rikard Latvala I have both Quantum and OB 6 and can vouch the OB 6 is very lush and like nothing else, the oscillators and filter are beautiful sounding. I think the pro 3 looks like another must have too. I keep coming back to the Summit simply because it’s sounds great on the demos. Very tempting but maybe overkill when you own the magnificent Quantum.
"Now it's time to play it..."
First sound is literally what you'd hear if Dracula played an old organ and you stumbled into his castle in Transylvania.
...And this alone is enough to sell me.
good sound, is very similar to the Supernova, but with some improvements, very characteristic of the Nova series ..
So Dan is a Harley man. Ride and rock on!
Dan Conner cosplay haha
No cosplay. I ride my Harley Night Rod Special all the time:
ua-cam.com/video/LOqA9mpt6N0/v-deo.html
-_Daniel_
This might be a stupid question... Will any sustain pedal work for the novation summit or do i need to buy a specific one?
Can you make a tutorial showing how to choose what effects an expression pedal modulates when used?
New to synth's and any help would be greatly appreicated!
Hi Jack. The Summit can auto-detect a footswitch's polarity, so pretty much any Sustain Pedal will work in either of the two jacks. The Expression Pedal should be a non-Yamaha type. Here are my videos about Expression Pedals:
ua-cam.com/video/KUHcKYffQgI/v-deo.html
and
ua-cam.com/video/fcc8scMQIrE/v-deo.html
-_Daniel_
Is that a full-sized keybed? Maybe Daniel has huge mitts, but is seems small in the video...
It's twew! I have big hands, but those keys were normal-sized. -_Daniel_
The best! Thanks Dan!
wow!
Who owns a Peak and liked but now wants a Summit and torn whether to sell or not?
A lot of Peaks appearing on Ebay .... I reckon they are all heading for the Summit ....
@@charlesrochfort1228 just checked nothing out of the ordinary...only 6 units used from mainly the same shop. No overwhelming sell off.
@@shawnsaul7759
The Summit is going to start shipping in September.
John Adams that’s cool. Was asking more so about whether Peak owners are going to add Summit or sell Peak.
wait are you capturing the audio direct out?, or recording what's coming from the speakers. please tell me direct out.
Hi joeyxl3456. The L/R Outs are going directly to the Zoom F8N Multitrack Field Recorder mentioned in the above Info section. There's also a link there if you want to learn more about it. Thanks for watching!
Dear Daniel. I’m always in awe of your synth skills. I saw all the wonderful sound you pulled out of the Peak b4. What I need to know is if you can pull specific Oberheim OBX & OBXa sounds out of the Summit. I love the sounds of Van Halen’s 1984 album, & Rush’s Moving pictures albums. I’m not 100% sold on DSI OB6 as I’ve owned both the OBXa & Prophet 600’s in the past. To me the OB6 sound just isn’t up to par. That being said. Thank you in advance, and I’m thinking the Novation Summit might just be the ticket for me. Please tell me honestly if you think the Summit is capable of getting the sounds I need, & mentioned?
Excellent synth (and excellent demo anyway). What I missed a little were ‘analog’ bread & butter sounds. Does the Summit have something like the oscillator slop known from Prophets? Otherwise I’m afraid the FPGA oscillators would sound too stable.
Hi Rayy"s Musikladen. There are two parameters for this:
Drift and Diverge. They are used to create the "slop" found in older oscillators.
Thanks for watching! -_Daniel_
Great synth, how does it stand up to the polybrute ?
Polybrute has tons of options but it's basic presets need a lot of modifying. Both are great
It has little keys. I am right ?
Nope, regular keys. I just have big hands! -_Daniel_
I’m having such a difficult time choosing my first synth. I like this one, the Hydrasynth, and the prophet Rev 2. Someone give me advice!
First Synth - Hydrasynth.
Can’t go wrong features-wise … so just go for the tone/sound you like best …
How do you think this synth compares with the Moog One? The price difference is huge. Is the Moog One THAT much better?
Honestly no. The moog one has one of the most sterile, uninteresting sounds I've heard on an analog poly, not to mention really bad bugs in the firmware
i want this so bad and i cant even play
Take some lessons online and start learning!
Synths are easy to pick up!
after so long I was still wating to have the Peak as the summit, multitimbral.
I ended up without neither of them
How about the summit's quality of the keyboard (s) and how does it feel?
I grew up as an organ player (as opposed to piano), so I'm not as particular as other folks. But, to me, it felt very satisfactory. -_Daniel_
@@sweetwater Thx, Daniel!
what are the fundamentals useful to learn to become proficient in synths. how can one learn about them and their parameters... all the knobs & sht lol ? ?
Hi Fallin1. I created an entire SYNTH CLIPS video tutorial series to do just that:
ua-cam.com/play/PLlczpwSXEOybYYaBCTcjxxKz1QmxytbIf.html
-_Daniel_
Has this a metal chassis?
Indeed and wood! Its so heavy
This or the Prophet Rev2?
Christopher Roland If you want classic vintage tones, go for the Rev2. If you want to experiment with brand new sonic capabilities with FM and wavetable, go for the summit.
Christopher Roland
The build quality of the Summit is much better than the Rev2. I'm not a big fan of the Rev 2, but I am a fan of Sequential. I would get one of their higher priced synths if I were to get another another Sequential synth.
Can someone answer if the FM is a linear FM like in NI massive
Or is it that weird pitch FM that isn’t so much suited for bass sounds
Andrei Lemieux it does both as far as I know.
🤯🤯🤯
vs DM12?
No contest. Peak hands down. The only thing the DM12 has on this is the price and the FX section. And I’m saying that as a former DM12 owner. Sold it because it was too limiting. This is the synth I’ve been waiting for.
I will add the sequencer is handy in the DM12 especially for sequencing parameters. And there are some fun under the hood options. But for sound, user interface, playability, overall badassery this synth beats Dm12 In my opinion.
Seriously considering this to pair with my Matriarch to have a nice and effective 2 synth set up. Sounds phenomenal.
I went to a synth expo IN LA and they were the only two synths that sounded AMAZING. The textures of the sounds are so rich. Way different league than everything else displayed.
I was thinking the same!! Need a buddy for my Matriarch!!
Just got this combo and can confirm it's amazing.
@@devinbelangermusic actually decided to go with the Pro3+Summit combo, though the matriarch is still very tempting.
That’s my set-up (big-boi keyboards, anyway) … Matriarch, Summit, Rev2, Pro 3, and my old MS2000B 🙂👍🏼 Not many bases left uncovered (lots of eurorack interaction, even), tho’ a Hydrasynth would give me a more modern fully-digital sound, and that all-important Poly-AT keyboard … 🤤
need
it's a novation twin peak...
SuperNova2 or Summit?
Summit all day.
What a missed opportunity, not naming it Twin Peak
Twin Peaks?
Wauw, so funny.. It's like the 120th time somebody mentions this.. Keep up the good work!
It's about $700 out of the price range I want to spend on a synthesizer but wow it's impressive!
about the price on deepmind12
Oh, just take my money.
Yep gonna get my money too.
Probably sounds like the Korg DW8000. Similar architecture.
The DW is not bi-timbral, sadly.
I'm torn between the Summit and the Moog Matriarch. I guess I could sell my car and get both? I hear walking is good exercise... :P
I owned the Peak. It's very very good but the raw tone of the Moog kills it. Matriarch pre ordered.
Absolutely nothing alike. Both are incredible.
@@AMSRMX16 you're so right.
Between the 2, I would chose Matriarch. I have one on the way. But I’m heavily considering adding this and have a simple but effective 2 synth set up. They’re really 2 completely different synths with different purposes.
i'm in the same place. Either would be pricey so I can't do both. My big question is, can I live without presets? I had a Vermona Performer and at least you didn't have to patch it. That might be part of the allure, but never seeing that patch again? I've had patch based synths since I bought a Poly61 in 1985. I really don't think I can go backwards. I'm sick of all the tech stuff I have to do to record my one man band. Now I have to program it with wires too?> That said, the sound of the Matriarch is perfect. A fun time to be alive in the synth world.
Baaaaa. dassss.
Just bought a Peak so not watching this : P
Tears of Soy Dafuq is that pfp?
@@homeirotheveryfatmanwhoisa8270 /ourguy/
Ognash aka Swires ???
But..you already reached the Peak..why not go 200 meter more, and reach summit. Just kidding 😉
I'm sorry, but there is no way I could justify $2200 for 1 synth. It sounds great tho. Not $2200 great (does anything really?), but still some nice sounds
That’s your opinion. I think it’s well worth the money and clearly lots of other people do.
I prefer the Rev2 plus a good FX
The Rev2 is an excellent analog synth, but somehow limited compared to the Summit. They perfectly complement each other. I’m gonna have them both by mid September - I hope.
@@RayyMusik :)
@@RayyMusik The Prophet Rev2 is inferior to the Summit but you'll get both anyway?
@@_User333 I won’t get the Rev2. I’ve had it since April 2018. And it is not really “inferior”, just not as versatile. It can, however, produce huge pads and even CS80-like sounds.
I’d rather use the Summit as a replacement for my crappy Prophet X, i.a.w. the crazy stuff (FM, wave tables etc.) and hook up the Rev2 for analog (more or less) bread & butter sounds.
@@RayyMusik Ah ok. Sounds like youre well versed on the gear and quite a bit in your studio for a while. The Prophet X is fairly new and you could sell it which would easily cover the cost of the Summit plus a good 4-voice synth.