The Expanse - Roccinante Crossing the Ring
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- Опубліковано 13 чер 2018
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Holden: "Because Miller told me"
Amos: 👁👄👁
😅😭 poor Amos
"This mfr is stroking as we speak"
I think.....the reason Amos trusted James, is because, every conflict between Burton, and Holden, has been about "survival vs. doing the right thing" (on transparent paper)... And this is the ONE time, Amos realizes Holden has flipped his gourd, nonsensically, and also says "I ask you trust me."Amos KNOWS, this isn't typical Holden, because it's not his typical "by the book" response. Amos, has put himself in harms way via James, several times, and was willing to die. This is the one time it was "I'm not against you...just TRUST me."
I'd add more, but have a hard time connecting the dots, word wise.
"How many times have I asked you to trust me?"
"None."
"I am asking you now."
“Doesn’t matter… he gave us 1 minute…. And 1 minute is all we’re gonna get.”
LOVE his delivery of that line.
David fucking Strathairn. This show got ahold of some stellar actors---a testament to the quality of the show. I really hope this universe comes back to us again.
Scrolling through the comments and I'm surprised to see no one gives Clinton Shorter credit for the amazing soundtrack that gives this scene 1000% more epicness
I can’t find the song anywhere, do you know it? Specifically around 7:40
@@Albanachid any luck?
@@Takhar7 Yes, he's got a youtube channel.
@@marcoinaros4209 who? Shorter?
@@Takhar7 Yep, /channel/UCNg7XBPxFUqif6Mkqno_56Q
That scene of Amos trusting Holden against his better instincts is easily best moment of acting by both Wes Chatham and Steven Strait in the entire series. Holden imploring Amos to trust him and Amos’s expression clearly showing a hurricane of internal conflict before deciding to give him only a single moment. That one single moment was the clear culmination of Amos and Holden’s unusual friendship with each other, come to fruition in one quiet moment of tension, and everyone involved with the production of this scene should be extremely proud with how well executed it was.
I agree. Loved the show and now am enjoying the books.
@@roseanneroseannadanna9651 I'm not sure they were ever actually friends.
That's the moment that Amos switched his loyalty from Naomi to Holden... it had been drifting that way as Naomi proved less and less qualified to being a "moral compass" but it was there that Amos decided consciously
But also the Holden told Amos exactly what happened and it worked, Amos really is the kind of person that will trust some one no matter how insane it maybe.... after they earned his trust.
@@lelouchvibritannia2300 The show portrays their relationship extremely antagonistic versus how they were originally written in the book. It's one of the main reasons I have a hard time watching the show given how Amos always has Holden's back normally, but I understand their need to build tension on film.
This was one of the best adaptations from the book. The scene is incredible and so so tense.
In the book it was even cooler, they used MCRN ships as cover and flew by them so close they could have kissed.
@@reldies5364 Damn, would love to see that on screen.
@@kroganbaby6163 Yeah I hope we will get those kind of scenes now that amazon took over.
MY favorite scene from the book described a room full of people being pasta sauced when they entered the ring.
@@RovingTroll I'm terrified to ask what that means...
5:17 new favorite shot from any TV show ever, damn. The halo of blue light and the way the door seems to suggest a wing-like structure behind him. Miller's ghost, the angel of the protomolecule.
That moment when Holden finally realizes what Miller was trying to say with doors and corners is great.
I really think this is one of the best cliffhanger moments in a TV show I can think of. In part because it so easily could have been so bad. If they cut the episode at 8:13, it would have been stupid - of course the crew of the Roci isn't about to die but we have no idea what we're waiting for. Instead, we get a real mystery: they aren't dead, but why on earth would a missile stop? If a TV show wants to do a cliff hanger, this is how to do it.
Looking at you, Walking Dead.
This entire episode plus many other episodes in the show, along with shows like Better call Saul, Breaking Bad, The Americans and Mr Robot should be taught in classes as master class tv shows and how to do awesome cliff hangers.
The only caveat i have that this has been done before in Stargate Atlantis
the fact this whole thing was calm asf and all of a sudden the show goes from 0-1000 was so insane
The most epic scene in the show. Never bored to return watching this scene
For me it was saving the Razorback in the episode IFF, but since seasons 5 it's been the whole final episode
Nah, the most epic scene is Avasarala questioning Bobby. And not because of that landmark comeback, but because the whole scene is so tense and Avasarala seamlessly goes from being super-supportive and compassionate to hyper-insistent. A true diplomat.
@@alexanderkuptsov6117 YESS! that scene. “He wasn’t wearing a vac suit!”
@@bigmoisture69 I will never forgive Amazon for what they did to the show :(
One thing that I don't really see people mention is how quickly Alex inputs the commands to execute the maneuver Holden ordered him to do, at 7:04. That's a pretty complicated maneuver, and I'm sure it takes more than a couple of clicks to plot it. So that means... That he had plotted the maneuver previously, and he's only confirming it in that moment. That means that despite reacting like Holden's out of his mind and saying "No fucking way!", he already starts plotting the maneuver as soon as Holden speaks it out, just in case they end up actually following that crazy order. To me, that speak to the level of trust that Alex, and the whole crew, have in Holden. They've been through hell together, and if he orders them to fall into it at breakneck speed again, they're gonna do it.
I imagine he set up the ring as an area of interest earlier as part of general hosekeeping and there's a "suicide burn to edge of area" button. Given the pace of some of these battles, I suspect the ships are controlled with directives and part of the pilot's job is to maintain a list of policies and objects they can use to quickly formulate maneauvers.
@@tacticalassaultanteater9678 yeah I imagine that makes sense in general, but exactly given the dynamics of space flights I really doubt there's a pre-made maneuver for "suicide burn, but flip and burn as hard as you can without the huge nuclear torpedo on our ass catching us and without killing us all with strokes, please". That's just a scenario that would never make sense before the discovery of the speed restriction zone, no?
@@Deerber Suicide burn is not the right term, but a trajectory of minimum time that ends with some constraints (within a certain region, under a certain relative velocity) is a reasonable default maneuver.
And even if outmaneuvering a torpedo is a more complicated task than simply being fast or maximizing velocity relative to the missile, there should be a subroutine for it in the library of any warship.
My late father DID like OG Star Wars, enjoyed OG Star Trek and even the new movies but usually it was an excuse to eat popcorn and drink cola in a dark theater. At home, we'd barely watch sci-fi stuff because him and I would just sit there and tear the logic holes wide open - then the Drinker recommended The Expanse and I have to say, he DUG IT! He lived long enough to finish the series and wanted to find out if they might be cooking up a movie. Miss ya pop, miss you a lot.
This has to be one of my favorite episodes of show. The intensity just gets higher and higher. The score is perfect and the great acting from everyone showing the stress of the situation!
I can't count how many times I replayed the flip and burn before entering. Probably the best maneuver in the Expanse
5:30 is my favorite shot of all three seasons!
Mine's 5:17
Everyone is great but Miller was always my favorite character
I loved it as well. I don't know why but its epic.
Go into a room too fast, kid....
@@Frenki94 The room... Eats you.
My God, this scene had me nearly shitting bricks. So tense, so well shot, such great music and camera angles, and that shot of The Investigator!
This is a Master class in what good shows do.
Just breathtaking.
3:08 Steven Straight is such an amazing actor and he often gets overshadowed in a series full of great performances. But his performances as Holden is the glue that holds this series together, he's so good.
I feel quite the opposite. To be honest I think the actor who plays Holden is mediocre throughout the whole show and there’re many actors much better than him.
@@sebipayne thats the character
3:34 gives me chills every time
family
The buildup and reaction to because Miller told me is priceless.
You can tell Drummer is not an experienced ship combat captain, good captains don’t yell out things like fire. They stay calm and give orders in calm, measured directions so there is not confusion or panic.
Calm measured and practice is not the way of the OPA
@@shahmaskwe have seen the calm OPA captains giving orders. Ashford for example. Besides that my point is people always think they need to yell out orders when in fact that just increases the panic young crew members experience in these types of situations. Same goes for business settings, poor leaders/managers/whatever’s always yell and bark out commands where you get more with calm measured voice. You saw this in Star Trek Picard season 3 (and before) with 7 of 9 yelling (for no reason) “FIRE EVERYTHING WE GOT!” Just dumb direction and acting.
3:31 When Amos' voice cracks, my hair went up.
Didn't even realize until the 20th rewatch...that torpedo is HUGE.
It's a torpedo after all, not a missle
It's a spaceship in and of itself, only carrying a payload instead of a crew.
Kind of paydload to screw a battleship.
@@Emrod82 or a planet
The moment the investigator shows up: goosebumps, every time!
It reaches out, it reaches out, it reaches out, 113 times a second it reaches out, nothing answers and it reaches out
You know what I LOVE about The Expanse as a scifi show? Not only about how it uses grounded physics and no horse-shit magic technology like Star Trek, but also how DYNAMIC ships move about in space. Constant use of RCS thrusters, flip and inverting ship orientation, even the camera angles make every perspective amazing.
Gods above I love this show.
falseprophet141 well it does use horse-shit magic if you look at the the proto-molecule and the ring. But that’s being nit picky and yes I’m being sarcastic. Lol. I agree with your comment.
@@tarn1135 its a good balance between hard and soft sci fi imo
No horse-shit magic technology?
Well, the Epstein Drive (coupled with the total lack of any significant fuel tank aboard the Rocinante) is a good example of this.
@@andreabindolini7452 they use pellets of fuel, so wouldn't use a tank.
@@will2brown50 even pellets have a weight and a volume. The rocket equation is unavoidable.
Does anybody else interpret the line (apart from what it means in the show) "you're going through the room too fast, kid... the room eats you" as a metaphor for life? That's just how it hit me, it felt nice to hear that. Not pausing or moderating yourself every once and a while, even during the most extreme circumstances... that can be dangerous.
Well Miller when he was alive always used that as a life metaphor, so...
Having read the books, I'd say that line is the core theme of the series. Every time anyone in The Expanse rushed into a situation half-cocked, a lot of people payed for it. And being human, people rushed into things pretty often.
that part when he said 'miller told me', you just know no one is going to understand/believe him. proper crazy talk right there, but was the absolute truth. brilliant!
The look on Amos's face when Holden said "Miller told me"....
God what a beautiful fucking scene. The furious roar of the epstien drive as they desperately break hard into the ring, deccelerate to almost zero velocity to enter the ring, you can also see the Roci turn to meet it's azimuth (I think), so that it decelerates perpendicular to the ring. , this scene is one I keep replying over and over again.
Drummer is bae
By far one of the most tense, nail biting, and exhilarating moment in tv history. 💙
The Holden deep fake was damn realistic
Well, deep fakes are pretty realistic today. Imagine what they'll look like in 250 years...
@@immortaljanus its not realy a deep fake, its a completely simulated version of holden
@@kevinjustin7646 What do you think a deep fake is
@@mobiblaize i might be wrong but i thought that a deep fake is just that you train an AI to recreate the face of a person and then use the video of another person and put the face created by the AI on the original video. In the books i think its mentioned that it is a software that completely recreated holden
Haven't read the book but there's no indication that that's what was used in the TV show. Not to mention that'll be a lot of resources for a 30sec video clip
Best SF show right now.
Watching this for the first time was one of the most intense things I have watched in a while!! One of the best shows I've seen in so so long.
i was literallly holding my breath at the end! awesome.
Amos started out as a scary psychopath. Now we know he's a friendly, loyal psychopath.
(Please don't @ me about how real psychopaths don't have the depth of feeling Amos clearly has, I'm using the word as shorthand for whatever disorder Amos has.)
Amos is a sociopath. Psychos are charming and can fool people into thinking they are normal. Amos never acted normal.
He can empathize so this rules out psychopathy. I would say a walking wounded who had no other option but violence during all his life. There is something dead inside him and he knows it. He can't feel anymore which looks damn close to psychopathy. A characterization chimera.
I don't think he us a psychopath OR a sociopath. I'd say he was abused as a child, and there was something major when he was 5. He's lucky he can function in society, he probably hides a lot of himself behind a mask. Nobody knows what is going on inside his head because he has everyone shut out. He's actually in a lot of pain, mental anguish.
amos is cool =) He'd be on my team anytime. even if he took over from me ;)
Reid Rosebrock read the books. He has almost no “depth of feelings”.
Amos is a psychopath. He’s a psychopath on the side of the good guys.
Love how this scene now makes even more sense with AI deep fakes now becoming a reality.
by far the most intense scene in the show.
the sequence of events and direction built the most tension ive ever seen.
Holden's generated sim was a foretelling of what's to come, with the proliferation of the use of AI.
This was one of the most intense moments in media I've ever seen. And I mean all the tv shows and movies I've seen.
This has to be THE BEST scene in sci-fi
I love the idea of a news crew being aboard and having all this drama recorded for everyone to see after.
The only thing that came remotely close to this was Naomi’s space walk at the end of season 5 and this still blew that out of the water. Peak of the show no question.
I love the confluence factions that assembled at the gate; from Earth researchers and philosophers, to Belter terrorists trying to go legit, to the crew on the Roci, all smashed together with missiles flying and music rising.
When the Expanse is good, it's REALLY good.
"Run into a room to fast kid...the room EATS you."
these scenes still hold up, My favorite from Season 3. still marvelous!
Was this as badass in the books as it was in the tv series? This has to be my favorite moment in all of scifi. I was holding my breath the whole time.
"It's gonna be nasty!"
Just epicness!
I knew it! I knew Miller would return and I like where this show is heading. This might be the scifi equivalent to what Game of Thrones is for fantasy.
I hope this will lead to a raise in numbers for scifi shows on tv. There's too much fantastic stuff out there to be cast aside for another NCIS spin-off or some other shit :D
I hate that comparison to be honest! Game of tities is just crap compared
Funny, this is officially waaay better
@@rolandmathis2886 I know what you mean, but without Thrones, stuff like the Witcher would never have made it to production because for years, studios were like "nah, nobody wants to see epic fantasy aside from the lord of the rings"....
@@rolandmathis2886 I hate that simplistic view to be honest. The first 4-6 seasons of Game of Thrones was near perfection. Calling it all crap is the equivalent of giving a critically acclaimed movie a 1 star rating.
But the expanse stuck the landing!
Pretty much the most intense 10 minutes of the whole series.
3:01-3:03 If any quote sums up half the events of the first 3 books, it's that!!
There was a button and I pressed it.
@@combomaster666 thats really how you go trough life?
This is one of the best scenes in TV history
The writing and execution here in this one scene is 1000 times better than the whole Star Wars franchise combined. I wish this series never ends.
It was the far one of the best series I saw in my lifetime.
This show is perfection! Well acted and the science of space is a marvel.
That season 5 finale got me like 7:21
God I miss this show! Already rewatched it so many times. So many epic moments!
One of my favorite scenes In the entire show.
This show had me in s1e1 when Holden got on the comm and said, "this will be a high G manuever, prepare for flip and burn." And then put in a mouthguard and slammed some juice. Incredible adaptation
Y'know a big reason why this show is so good?---a reason you know but don't realize? Everybody's chemistry: None of it's forced and it all feels very real---which adds to the tension and compels you to be emotionally invested in what they're doing.
When I watched this scene live on the syfy channel I legitimately thought that they were all going to die. Excellent scene.
As a Show only fan, "WTF is going on?" It was so good
Best Show I have ever Seen! We need MORE!
7:50 Amos smiling while everyone else is freaking out is perfect.
You see it as a smile? not a painful grin?
He’s grimacing lol..
There goes his other spleen...
I don't think that was a smile; I think he was clenching his teeth to withstand being the weight of a grown-ass elephant.
I really hope they bring this show back in like 10 years. I think the books jump forward in time so I think it would make sense in the larger storyline.
From what I read on the expanse subreddit, the jump in time is 30years
the martians thinking holden was responsible for anything inside the ring gate is preposterous. it's just dumb.
Tough little ship
Little!?
this was amazing
- Amos, all we've been through, how many times I've asked you to trust me?
- ...none.
- I'm asking you now.
I "holy shit!!!!"-ed so much at that scene when I first saw it.
This show is so awesome there are no words!
5:30 is my desktop background.
Just realised that behemoth lost power after lunching its missile.
Filming deceleration scenes must've been hilarious on set. Everyone doing their best impression of a tremendously hard and dry attempt at a number 2.
3:21 Wes deserves an Emmy for that "For what?" The confusion just radiates from it.
This show builds tension like no other
man, i love ashcroft ! he is a great actor
Good lord, I love this show
God I love this show!
This show... It's amazing. never have i been so emerged into a sci-fi series.
Damn going to need to do my third re watch of this amazing show
Can't remember who, but they gave money to help finish and maybe the strike delayed it.
keep this show up no matter what -thats an order
What a great show!
I love Ashford, Hope he goes full pirate at some point
Melodic Meerkat possible spoilers ahead... you have been warned... Ashford becomes somekind of antogonist in the next season, he will try to destroy the ring from inside and the roci crew will try to stop it cus if he succed the destruction of the ring will create a supernova and gonna fuck everyones day... also, not sure, but is possible that the fucker end killing Camina Drummer... sry about my englizzzzzh
they developed that way sooner than expected..and not in the precise way we all expected...
Too bad he died int he books.
Jeffrey Osborn Ashford dies in the book!? Booooo im still only on Leviathan Wakes
Oh shit, I ruined that... I'm so sorry... yeah, at the end of Abaddon's Gate, That time he got hit by the lady I won't name, killed him.
God i love this show
Best sci fi show.
I never quite understood what is happening In this scene. But now there's a new phrase "deep fake". Which makes this all the more chilling with AI generation today.
The crosshair is for UA-cam to not censor. There is no deepfake. He is seeing Miller (based on the books). There is literally no AI lmao, he saw a projection of Miller and believed him.
Best scene ever
I remember...epic!
Imagine watching this on an imax with a Dolby atmosphere sound system, and an audio mix created by the same people that made Dune 2's audio mix.
That was supremely cool
5:17 is such a desktop wallpaper.
Omg it is.
Like Holden said to Teresa in 8th book, he wasn't a good man but loyal.
3:35 Chills
God I miss this show
Epicness! I wish they had finished this show.
Maybe in 30 years
Thank you the rights holder for letting me monetize on this video
Imagine at the end of the fake video, he said " I should go"
Holden: That's not me
He drinks tea
That's not me
the show gets to raw feminine power
Who else is here after watching the recent Because Science episode on The Expanse?
Waiting patiently for @Nerdy Nightly to review this episode and freak out.
Anyone know the song that kicks in around 7:40?