X-Men 97: The Calm Before the Storm
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- Опубліковано 23 вер 2024
- X-Men 97: The Calm Before the Storm
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Yea but think about how funny it is that Storm decided to go for a joy-fly in the desert while Forge lay dying in the abandoned mine. 😄
I wasn't sure if that part was happening in Storm's head or not. Also, the costume change (could she always do that?)
@@deviousdelibird I think it was really happening, since she still has the tiara in the scene where they are back at Forge’s home. I don’t know how it works but I remember she spontaneously put on her uniform in “Night Of The Sentinels - Part 1”. Personally, I wish she would have kept her 90s uniform or else the black 80s uniform with the lightning bolt. I never liked her 70s bathing suit uniform that she seems to get now.
R.I.P Gambit though, he went out like an absolute chad 😭
Well it is Gambit , if his going too be killed , his definitely going out like a Giga Chad lol
All I wanted was Storm from the mutant massacre and Australia era. I don't expect it but that's what I wanted. Storm with Forge was great and I agree with you they were never going to take the time to show the full relationship.
That aggravating joy when I realize, "ah good, its not just me".
I watched it twice to make sure I didn't miss anything.
You're about the quality drop on those episodes. Having different writers is telling 😅
As for Storm, I like to think Forges machine DID work and afterwards it was Storm not believing in herself.
I had the impression that the machine Forge created did indeed undo the X-Cutioner's weapon effects but she still couldn't access her powers because of what she said to Madalyne that she sometimes wished she were human. This episode showed her getting over these psychic blocks and embrace herself as a mutant.
Yeah that’s what I got too.
I read that the "lie" she was referring to was that she wasn't a goddess but a mere mutant that could have her power taken. And it was the belief in this lie that led to her sequestering her powers.
ALL I'm hearing is this show has been a hit or miss so far which is good enough for me
If all the best episodes were written by the original showrunner, it seems like they fired the wrong person. "Serviceable" is just a nicer way of saying "mid," and resorting to deus ex machina to restore Storm's powers doesn't bode well for the quality of future episodes, especially when most of the time she's without them isn't even shown. It's like having a character lose an arm in a fight, only to show up the very next scene with a cool robot arm that's better in every way. There are a lot of ways to mess up a good story, but few snowball as badly as pacing issues-and in a setting where people can just be born with godlike power, up to and including *rewriting reality at-will,* it shouldn't be too hard to come up with something better than self-actualization as a means of getting her powers back.
That was Storms, girl boss Princess Leia, phase.
So out of place and annoying!! For once, can audiences have a story without all that woke BS?
@@comyxcon4gaming860 You really need to figure out the true meaning of “woke” before using it so ignorantly.
@@BCDC123 no he dont
@@BCDC123 Tell the true meaning of entertainment to Disney before blatantly using it so obtrusively within the episode's narrative.
@@comyxcon4gaming860 Like I said, what we saw here is not the true meaning of “woke”
Woke originally had nothing to do with anything LGTV, feminists, the T party, brown people or any other minority besides black people. Hell, even critical race theory was not included in “woke”
These narratives were latched on to the “woke” slang to destroy its original meaning and all of you idiots fell for it, but don’t take my word for it, I’m just some guy trying to educate you.
Professor X plot: I'm alive and dealing with space conquest and facisim
Storm plot: I'm a bad little goddess and I'm built like a barbie
I knew that somehow, some way, they'll fuck it up. They have the BEST version of the x-men outside of the comics, and they still fuck it up. At this point, it's actually impressive
forges machine did work but the lie was that storm did not to be an x-men once she realized she was wrong then she had her powers back
The MCU should keep the same writers. Or at the very least, an understudy of them, just in case.
I hate these stupidly short seasons for shows like this, bring back the 30+ season's so we can actually get the full story.
In the comics, Storm used electricity on her civilian clothes which effected the molecules of her costume underneath, materializing into appearance. She explains it in a panel
death bird is kind of like starscream.. you know she's going to betray you at the first opportunity but she's still kept close by
You truly are an X-Men fan to dare call out the tourists and posers who are pretending to like the series.
😂👍
just know the xmen from orig 97. am i tourist? yeah im as old as some guy
@@aSSGoblin1488 As long as you like the franchise, it's all good. JSG is referring to the ones who don't.
Different writers makes sense. I didn’t even think to look into that. Storm is my favorite on the team, but both episode 4 and 6 definitely felt out of place and rushed; in contrast to the temporary feeling of completion after watching the other episodes. They were like 33 minute movies, but 4 and 6 are clustered.
Hopefully, 6 is the last episode she wrote.
Prof Xavier was never dead he was taken into space by Lalandra who saved him from death. Thats how the x-men cartoon originally ended. This happened in the comics to. Storm was always gonna get her power back just like magneto and gambit will be still alive and Prof x was always gonna come back.
As I understand it, Forge DID restore Storm's powers. They just didn't work because Storm herself had it blocked. So, those powers returned when she overcame that.
I do agree though, that if Storm would lead X-men without powers and would only restore them later, it would be a cooler story.
Thanks, although I didn't think the episode was terrible, all those questions not only bothered me, but the fact other youtubers completely ignored all those questions felt jarring. If the whole series was written in that "no logic" manner it would have been terrible
These episodes would have been better if episodes 4 and 6 were aired before 5. That way you have all of Storm's arc over two continuous episodes and end with Professor X going back to Earth. Thus in episode 5 you're waiting for Professor X or Storm to save the day, then learn they won't.
“Sugar I can’t feel you!”
I read Storm's powers coming back differently.
I read it as Forge's machine worked, but Storm's doubts about being a mutant, as mentioned in previous episodes, was what was keeping her powerless. By facing the Adversary=her fears and doubts, head on, she could use her powers again. She even acknowledges it in her dialog healing Forge.
As for Deathbird, that's a good point. I just rolled with the punches, asking no questions.
The storm forge relationship really feels forced vs the other side plots. Storm having a Stella got her groove back though was a feel good moment.
Storm has gotten so powerful now after this she could never go into space like that in the original series Xmen 97 is gonna give us some great ass stories man last time I heard of bastion was on Xmen dimension game I use to love that game and couldn't stand his ass tho he was so hard to beat on there.
My thoughts exactly, JSG. This one was definitely off in terms of narative & changing Storm & Forge's story arc.
How does Storm create her costume from lightning..A good question for John Byrne via 1975.She's always been able to do it.
I like your commentary on x men 97. I'll give it a shot. I'm so used to being let down with all the agenda over talent garbage. I figured x-men 97 would be no different. Thanks for opening my eyes.
I've loved all the episodes by far.
I kind of chalked up storm getting her powers back on her own ( as well as ger hair and costumes) was her using her lanet magic abilities that's always been hinted at since the lightning was yellow and then had blue as well Me and some friends discussed it And we feel the yellow lightning was her magic and the blue was natural lighting. I also have to say. I really love how they did Deathbird Her calling the milky way a ghetto made me cackle, as if good lines yet also instills the fact that she and the rest of the Shiar Empire are very much what Xavier says they are.
It would be cool if the Imperial Guard gets their own spin-off series.
I'm surprised they removed the potential for a powerful Storm story that ticks all sorts of checkboxes. Storm - a black handicapped (for a mutant because she's depowered) woman - beat Scott - who was able to use his powers - for leadership of the X-Men. It showcased Storm's cunning and cleverness since she used tactics and the environment to beat an opponent who could zap her as soon as he saw her. Not only was it a great fight and character work, it plays to 'modern audiences' as well. They lost an opportunity to have their cake and eat it.
Honestly, it seems like the writer who did this episode and the others has a Wikipedia idea about the X-Men TV series. I don't understand if you want to do an episode based on these characters why can't you just watch the original episodes it's based on if you don't want to watch the whole series? By doing so you get a better general idea and then you can make your story much more cohesive as well as I'm sorry to say good. So far it seems like there are Pacific episodes I should watch guarantee from your suggestion, which I agree, but it seems like the last four episodes of the show I have no reason to watch it.
I have JSG to thank for getting me into the X-Men. I’m probably never going to read the comics, as I’m already tearing my hair out over my Stockholm syndrome to DC, but I absolutely love the cartoon. Watched 97 first (I know, out of order, but I told myself I was just watching for the animation and wasn’t going to get attached and now look where I am), and I’m currently binging the original series.
With that all of the way, as someone who had no preexisting knowledge of the X-Men other than a few JSG videos, I can’t really judge how 97 handles arcs. However, I will say that the pacing feels off. Some episodes feel like they should be stretched out a little more, especially the Jean clone arc and the Storm and Forge arc. Also, this might be my bias talking, but I wish we got more time with Gambit before episode 5 (which is an amazing episode. It’s what really sold me to become an X-Men cartoon fan). Other than that, I’m having a lot of fun despite the newly formed Gambit-shaped hole in my heart.
Oh right, aside the fired guy there was that woman... the Owl House one...
Nice knowing you you X-Men 97...
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Sounds extreme, but believe me, me watching it or not wont make much difference :D
...and here we GO!
I really feel like love death should have been its own episode. They could have fit it in there somewhere. Or maybe done it later after storm had led the x men for a while without her powers. I know this is X men 97 but I feel like they want it to be X men 87. I do agree that despite its flaws the show is pretty solid.
1:07 Ohhh so we have the idea of the weakest link
Hopefully she evolves fast cause if not then she might need to look for a new studio to work with or take more writing classes in between this season and the next or ask beau for pointers
I personally think Owl House is rushed in parts, so this doesn’t surprise me with the off pacing
With Owl House Disney pulling what they did explains a lot of that.
Could have meant the writer is too used to having to work under tight time constraints, though.
I got the impression that what forge did in life/death part one got rid of the physical changes blocking her powers but she was still mentally blocked which she dealt with in life/death part 2 but am I wrong based on the source material?
Sadly, it feels like Storm restoring her own power was almost inevitable, due to too many people in Hollywood not really getting complex or subtle ideas, or not wanting audiences to think. While I certainly agree that Storm is not reduced by her power being restored by someone else, that's not a thought that would be popular in Hollywoodland nowadays. Likewise, Storm leading the X-Men without her powers was not something I feel like the executives would want to sign off on.
Hope this doesn't get worse from here.
Hello friend!
Yeah im finding more or my friends are coming over to watch the episodes, just because they know my knowledge of the comics and original show I'm like providing extra commentary to fill in all the gaping holes. overlooked for whatever reason to help them with context. upon one of my friends looking confused as to Xavier being alive. I think also a scene of a flashback of the final episode of the final season to show what Illandra did and what the xmen saw as to why the world percived charles as dead.
I predicted the "Potential Wokeness" of this show since the 1st Episode and we are now seeing the evidence of that prediction~
I do not hate *X-Men '97* for these Inserts of Wokeness, but yet I claim that the scriptwriters could have produced a better show without them being added.
We learned that as long as Xavier is getting laid he is down with Space Colonialism. Like did he never notice the Imperial Guard represent all the conquered worlds
Technically lilandra is guilt of treason as well. She did start a resistance to the previouse empier that lend to his end.
Agree with you about Charley Feldman... in addition to the tone and pacing, the dialogue is so direct in those episodes. You're supposed to show, not tell, but Charley Feldman just has the characters say what's going on in dialogue. It's clunky and sound disingenuous.
Many people are going to blame the time constraints (number of episodes per season and how long they last) for this but those factors should have been taken into account by the team in charge on writing the episodes.
You need time to make a good story and get people attached to the characters : Speeding things up to cram as many storylines as possible in one season doesn't cut it.
I'm sure there's a lot of people who'd rather get a nicely paced story and end the season on a cliffhanger than get the breakneck speed pacing X-Men '97 goes for its storylines.
The show even dared throwing filler in there for the Life and Death story by mixing it up with Jubilee's side quest when it needed the full time granted by the episode to be properly told.
The only good thing going for Disney+.
You working for the mutants? How don't you see the danger a single mutant can have on millions if not billions of humans? One human has more power than an entire nation super power?
What up my fellow Chicago X-Man .. once again another great video.. but what do I know your just some Guy 😜
Would you say the momentum is something the OG series didn't have a problem with?
7 is bright eyes and frankly im not sure where there heading withthat one and 8-10 are billed as a three parter tolleranced is extinction....some have suggested cyclops will become the extremist cyclops but that wasn't really a 90's story line that doesn't happen till the time Marvel decides to kill off mutants in favor of inhumans cause lets face it they did it cause they didn't have the film rights to the X title characters.
I didn’t read the comic part that she lost her powers. But, I think the show was great. It wasn’t as good as 5. I thought it was epic. Forge did help her emotionally.
You think this love story was fast? It took barely 10 minutes for Storm to marry Arkon in season 5…
Wow. You and I picked the exact same title for our reviews of this episode lol.
Ill save worrhy sucssouer till the last episode
Sounds like she is another one of them DEI hires. Just got to have a woman in the team
They really did storm dirt in this and her previous episode. This forge thing feels rushed and clunky. I dont believe she actually likes the guy even though the script says she does and I mean last time she was super pissed at him. Forge just comes off as kind of creepy to me. The only thing coo that happened with her during this kind of 2 parter is the new outfit scene and thats really it. Also I will miss mohawk storm as thats always been my favorite look for her. I was way more interested in the charles stuff during this episode and the action was pretty good like gladiator straight up decking that chick and charles literally taking everyone to school.
Your voice sounds so different today
Let you down did they. Like I said before I'll stick to the og 97.
still confused where her orignal outfit materializes from or why it suggests her hair is tied to her powers.
I'll agree to disagree that episode 5 was "awesome" (for reasons I stated in your review of that episode) and Episode 6 is where I tapped out; specifically for the ENDING. Professor X not being dead I can handle as he wasn't dead until Scott kills him - and that hasn't happened yet (regardless of whether I think it never should have, as a disservice to both characters frankly) BUT Prof X getting into a "developed" relationship far enough to marry an alien; getting just as screwed by her people as Earth's for being what he is - in a different context, and THEN because Genosha bites it, saying fuck the whole thing because "my babies" are in danger... No. They're most of them GROWN ASSED adults that you left things to in your damned will bud. The alliance with the Shi'ar could have done a LOT more for earth = and they do have a child together, so when the hell is that coming up? Because I doubt they did that OUT of wed-lock, but you know they're probably going to never mention a marriage. Professor X being all "school is in session" with a group of supposedly advanced aliens who subjugate entire species, and specifically gave HIM the tech to create the danger room in the first place, is more than a little arrogant. I get that Llandra was probably humoring him to bring her idiot council down a peg or two, but no one says that some other Shi'ar couldn't have fought back. Him getting screwed on the psychic plane and curling into a ball over it's probably not gonna do him any favors either. (Not saying he was wrong to do so; but it makes him look weak - and he was already in a position of non-dominance with the Shi'ar anyway. Also, Also: When she points out he can play her pet later, and Charles was like that sounds interesting = No! Just no. A) He's never been that type, B) There's no need for that kind of emasculation when you're attempting to assert he's worthy to MARRY an Empress in general. It's fair enough it was in private but I'd call it wildly out of character and a mark of current day social politics rather than true to the lore) * This is a guy with enough mental strength to contact and perhaps CONTROL the entire earth. The. Entire. Earth. He's done it at least once, and maybe more than once, and you assholes ever think he's the type that's going to be submissive??? Come on. [Yes, you can argue he was humoring her, or trying to turn the insult into something more playful to take it's teeth away, but it did not need to be written in the first place. It says more about the writer's view on his character - and lack of knowledge of who he is in the comic world. Not to mention what he can do]
Storm attempting to break the glass I took as the building up of her clostrophobia. She was trying to escape before it escalated; because the spirit knew what buttons to press - and there's a reason she eventually does defeat it based on what it actually is... - so her getting clostrophobic in the coffin was more a worsening of that point. Rather than random (The cabin to most would still be a small "enclosed" space - it would count more than you think) I personally don't like how she just GETS her powers back by beating the demon. Yes, you can say she was the one holding her own powers back by "fear" (and she's NEVER been afraid of her powers; so that's BULLSHIT. If it was something like Jonathan from Generation X - THEN you can do the I fear my powers) She's never really seemed to want to be normal, as her being a mutant WAS her version of "normal." So that doesn't fly either. The fear of them being taken away, was never something she had to deal with before - as before the gun it wasn't as far as she knew possible... so there's a TINY bit of leeway there. Not much, and not a really palable excuse considering how again: DOMINANT Storm's personality is. (Storm is also VERY well aware that she's NOT actually a goddess... so if they were going for that angle as to why she wins against a spiritual demon in an entirely different cultural mythos, no beuno) It's just all of a sudden - I get my powers back because I'm "ready" to have them back. I was the one holding myself back the whole time... because female empowerment. Despite the fact she wanted them back the whole time, and has ALWAYS held her powers back because of the nature of what they are - and what they can do to NATURE itself. She's the only Omega level mutant that's ONLY ever going to be able to use about 5-10% of her actual power, on any planet she wants to survive her mucking around with it. Are we going to see a scene where she thanks him for fixing her; or are we just stuck with her blaming him for coming up with the BASICS of the tech? Which given where they left off made her suddenly giving a shit about his bite wound in my opinion pretty damned quick and jarring as well [I also don't like that she slapped him. If you don't want to be hit - You do not get to hit. Ever. Gender doesn't matter to that assertion] ** Storm got her powers back because it can be assumed her "block" after Forge "restored" her powers, was entirely psychosomatic. It really was just her, holding herself back. Which means he DIDN'T fail to restore her powers - which is why I asked if he'd get a thank you... and I doubt that's even going to occur to her, or the writers.
Deathbird was specifically hilarious to me - when you know that she MARRIES Vulcan; and they had a kid. So her attempt here is very petty/assholish, and specifically about her play for the throne more than any cultural purity/societal belief. *** Deathbird is the ELDEST. By the medieval rite/law of Primogen; it would have passed to the eldest MALE heir, which would have already pissed her off. However with D'ken unseated, if Llandra's ruling, that's not fair in Deathbird's mind. Despite the fact she's a murderess as far as I'm aware (to her it's likely justifiable homicide, and wouldn't count as something that should take away that supposed Birthright)
These shows are far inferior to the original shows. There are too many things to vent in depth.
This mess like watching Dragon Ball Super. It’s decent and likable yet it’s just not hitting the highs of the OG series. Enjoying it for what it is, More X-Men.
so i haven'r red the comics, but i thought the lie storm was refernceing was the lie to jean/maddlyn. storm even used the word day dream in that scean, which the adversary also used the word day dream. i would definitly like to see a more comics accuracte adaptation of this storie. but for what they made it was a good episode. thats basically what i have to say about the series so far. like you can tell stuff is missing from the actuall story line episode but they have made passable versions that do entertain for fans of the 90s series who didn't grow up on the comics. and i would truly love the clothes changeing portion of her power.
As far as the stuff in the shiar empire i wasn't fond of it it didn't make sense. like i had remembered death bird not surviveing the last episode she was in. like honestly that episode should have gone with motendo instead. though honestly while i had wanted xavier back from the fegining, now i kionda think it would have been more entresting to see how the x men deal with everything by them selves. .
She seems like a Disney imposed writer. Her styling is familiar corporate Hardy boys it's for kids so it doesn't matter. Seemed on par with the captain marvel movies. And that movie appears to have been cut up in corporate. It's crappy writing. But we love the characters and they look beautiful.
I was disappointed that we didn't get to see storms strength of spirit and being an effective fighter like Natasha without needing powers. Just like Wonder woman 84 for the MCU.
Deathbird should've planned to snatch the throne from Lilandra and ruin the marriage altogether. But I'll give it a pass. The episode with Storm and Forge felt rushed.
So is this writer going to be the new show runner?
How in the hell does storm get her hair back?
The OT x-men show did the same thing
I really like this show but the transition back and forth between Charles and Storm was really weird, Storm's magical girl moment was cool
Was waiting expectantly for this review exactly because of how much it felt like episode 4.... you were tame over it... to me just felt as bad as the forth.
If the show keeps this trend then, for me the show really becomes unwatchable....
For the storm part, it also seemed to me very weird how she just recovers her powers by her own, but yeah... girl boss moment it would seem.... The rest with her hair growth and costume change and all that, it looked more like a passage of period of time scene,
a good one visually, but it really felt off in the middle of the plot. The story was about both of them and suddenly its about her and all that time passage while Forge is sick on his death bed to be, waiting for the cure... it makes no sense.
So in the end much like the forth episode you were given two stories but were really given none due to lack of focus....
Seems like the writer had something she wanted to see. Storm flying in the black outfit. That visual was awesome. It was just forced foolish and outside the story arc.
Storm saying
Let them thunder.
I am lightning
Was spectacular. I love it.
The believing the lie thing is the only bit of use to bridge that scene and I'm sure that was Beau.
Did you see Skyfall? It wasn't a James Bond movie. He was emasculated and useless. Somebody has an idea for a Trainwreck scene. It was just all the way worthless.
By contrast pierce brosnan blows up the bad guy with his own drill torpedo in horribly written scene that's so campy it fits the franchise.
I think this storm arc was a continuation of wonder woman 84. Women are worthless without powers. They have no intrinsic value or agency.
Too bad. Because both Wonder woman and storm have arcs where they prove that they're fierce forces of nature without super powers. It's a sad missed opportunity that's seemingly corporate enforced misogyny.
Wonder woman in the 1970s had women doing things capably. Wonder woman showed respect for and tried to make allies of her female characters that were villains. Women ain't no good no more.
As far as retcon s go there is potential here.
I never liked Bastion. He was a downgrade from Nimrod.
Nimrod was already a perfect hunter Ai that could learn and adapt and always come back to finish the job.
Bastion was just a skin job.
They already had the more advanced Terminator and they made it look human. That's stupid.
On the other hand. Sinister playing god and turning master mold into an artificial human machine hybrid makes a lot of sense...
Are the Phalanx a thing in this universe? I forget.
Did Disney fire beau because he's gay?
Wonder woman 84 and Captain marvel. Hack crap writing for female characters. We allow it because they're beautiful and the performance can sell it. It's similar to Star trek kelvin or the Brian singer movie. They confused crappy writing they could get away with because of fans love for the IP and stretching the envelope.
So many tourists and posers have been revealed.
So many of them ironically those who claimed to be the ones who stood as stalwart guardians against those who would infiltrate and corrupt these sacred tales.
Yet now their mask slips. As we are blessed with new stories set in old worlds that hold up to their legacy.
As we now finally see shows worthy of praise and love rise from the mud and shine after so many years.
They would sooner lie, mislead, and misinform.
To spread rumors and guide people astray from media worthy of their time and money.
All for the purpose of lining their pockets and appealing to their enteral narrative of modern media being terrible with no hope of recovery or originality.
Never have we lived in an era where the grifters so eagerly revealed themselves for who they are.
Go outside.
@AClockworkHellcat
I just came in shut it.
Bro, you're too hard on this show. And you sound like a real comic snob when you talk down to people who enjoy it. Of course the show wasn't going to be 100% comic book accurate. Enjoy the show for what it is
Yikes bro. Way to pick it apart . I shall unsubscribe! Good luck in your endeavors.
As hype as I am that they're using the classic Storm costume, I have to agree about the wasted potential. Given the direction Cyclops has been going, I had expected to see them adapt Storm vs Cyclops for leadership in this show. But I guess the plot demanded Storm back in full force right away.
Storm's been out of character since the beginning of this show. She was kind and smart and not quick to jump to conclusions or lose her cool, she's displayed none of that in this show. I suspect the wokesters got ahold of her character and thought, "yeah let's have revenge on the wyt pipo for all these years of making her look meek" instead of realizing that her character embodied the majority of the attitudes of the real civilized African nations those who believe in community, helping each other, and that all evil human beings have an innate good side that can be reached under the right circumstances.
She seems like a Disney imposed writer. Her styling is familiar corporate Hardy boys it's for kids so it doesn't matter. Seemed on par with the captain marvel movies. And that movie appears to have been cut up in corporate. It's crappy writing. But we love the characters and they look beautiful.
I was disappointed that we didn't get to see storms strength of spirit and being an effective fighter like Natasha without needing powers. Just like Wonder woman 84 for the MCU.