I have the concept of a mechanic where you could turn Pokemon into it's prehistoric form or ancestral form and future form (but mostly prehistoric since I'm a Paleontology enthusiasm) and a whole new region where it got froze in time and all the prehistoric Pokemon stay the same at it was
@@jeffbrownstain yea, it was SV but I feel like it's lean more into Paleontology side, not just "Mystery creatures brought back from the past or future", like the whole region is just Jurassic Park/World but Pokemon
As a former linguist and a current museum educator at one of the museums featured in this video, I love this video SO much 👏 Very well done explaining the bouba and kiki effect. I adore your lineless art so much and the designs of your Fakemon!!
If you're looking for a super easy linguistics concept to adapt into a Fakemon, might I suggest Jean Berko Gleason's wug test? Wugs are very, very cute.
I ADORE the fact that gf decided not to give the water typing to Cradily and Armaldo just because they're marine lifeforms. I genuinely can't describe how much I appreciate that. We need more of it.
As just sort of a word of advice - from someone making their own creature collecting game, merging the ground and rock type can end up being a bad idea in the long run due to type matchups - soft mud and a hard stone will resist and be strong against vastly different things and it can result in the Geo type being lopsided. I also tried to merge them in my game and eventually decided it was for the best to split them up for type matchups’ sake.
Water / Ice, Steel (different types of metal), and Grass (a pliable leaf full of water vs a dry wooden trunk) are very different substances too. Element types won't ever match perfectly as they're a simplification of the real world. Some amount of suspension of disbelief is required for good gameplay.
@@parasitex5 yeah but that the thing. Let’s stick to Pokémon, rock and ground types do very different things gameplay wise. rock is more for countering specific types, ground is more general. Move pools include less rock moves and more ground. And really it also adds weaknesses or to add defenses to particular mons which is how the game works. These games are an elaborate version of rock paper scissors and you can’t just remove scissors from the game without some massive effort to re- balance not just the types but moves and stats.
At the end It would be the same water/grass/steel/fighting/ice weakness while having normal/Flying/bug/Fire/poison/ resistances, Electric immunity and Fairy/dragon/Ghost/psychic/dark and "Geo" dealing neutral damage, It wouldn't be a big issue imho
@@nicolasturetta7959 go play with a type coverage Pokédex calculator rock hits 26.7% of the Pokédex super effectively Ground hits 27% Together they hit 47% of the Pokédex super effectively. In other words over half their coverage is not overlapping. And only 8 Pokémon resist both types This games balance is very complicated. types are very difficult to mess and especially when design problems can lay dormant until one little thing one new move, one Pokémon with the right states and its balance is gone with no checks.
In many traditions there only had the earth element and the rest are just variations, while in chinese culture they made metal and wood as separated things from earth. Its all depends on how you balances types ingame.
The crystal palace dinosaurs were actually reasonably good attempts at scientific accuracy for the time period! I've always wanted to see Pokemon based off of them. The likely inspiration for the mixed up fossil Pokemon is the inciting incident of the Bone Wars. Edward Drinker Cope showed his friend, Othniel Marsh, his new discovery: Elasmosaurus. Marsh took one look at it an immediately laughed at Cope, pointing out that he had put the skull on the end of the tail. This notorious incident kicked off their entire rivalry and I would think is the likely explanation for the mix'n'match Pokemon. I will die on the hills that Kabuto/ps are horseshoe crabs. They share so much more in common with them than they do trilobites.
I like how tripirt's name is a palindrome referencing how it's the same front and back but Halludrome completely abandons that naming scheme and it loses the symmetry. Very fitting evolution
Something that i very much like about the Hoenn fossil Pokémon is they really embody the land and sea theme of the story of Ruby/Sapphire. They're both Pokémon that lived in the water, but neither are water types. One can theorize upon how the decisions of Archie and Maxie and their teams of either expanding the sea or the land and how that would affect the Lileep and Anorith as they went from ancient to modern times. And where does the living fossil Relicanth play in?
Another nod with paleonthology is the presence of sea creatures fossils in the desert sugests the place used to be a sea millions of years ago, like in real life Sahara.
I totally agree with you that the 1v1 match up between a generation's fossils/exclusives shouldn't be the deciding factor. However I think it's worth mentioning that with Cradily and Armaldo's type match up, both take one of the other's type neutral and are weak to the other. Armaldo is hit neutral by grass and is weak to rock, while Cradily is hit neutral by rock and weak to bug.
this is dope. I love how your fossils put a spin on the "fast sweeper vs. slow wall" pattern, with one being fast but defensive and the other being slow but offensive. very creative!
When you realize that we had not just one but two missed chances for nonrock fossil Pokemon. The Tundra DLC has a sector where they didn't go extinct so could have had versions of them that evolved naturally and Scarlet is about time travel so could have had primal version of them plucked from the past.
Your designs were really interesting ! I like that those aren't just very popular dinosaurs but actually unknown yet interesting creatures. It won't stop me from wondering what a Pokémon based on parasaurolophus or ankylosaurus could look like, but I really like discovering new inspirations for designs.
Charmeleon always looked like a parasaurolophus to me (though I guess it doesn't really act all that much like one). And torterra always seemed to have a bit of ankylosaur in it, particularly the head, even if it is pretty clearly mostly world turtle.
The fossil pokemon are cool in that you look at them and wonder what they was like in the past. It was mentioned that the fossilization process is why they all share the rock type, minus the gen 8 fossils. I still love the gen 8 fossil pokemon for the mix-and-match concept. I do agree that I don't see it being repeated unless we get the completed versions of the fossil fragments. Your fossil pokemon look amazing and I love how you based them around brains vs brawn. My favorite has to be Halludrome because I love how bizarre Hallucgenia looks. It looks so alien that I'm surprised we haven't had an official fossil pokemon based on it. This is a minor thing to point out, but the type icons for Anodukes has the symbol for psychic instead of fighting.
If the "fossil pokemon are rock type because of the defossilization process" thing is true, I would love to see ice fossils become the ice-type, or the tar fossils possibly gaining the fire-type (or maybe grass type or some ability that has it swap between the 2)?
The mix and match aspect of the Gen 8 Fossils are based on England’s Bone wars, where decades ago people really wanted to brag about how they had the newer and better fossils so they rushed to make “””new””” fossils by just putting different fossil bones together and calling them new
Melodies that aren't pokemon 0:15 Jurassic park theme 2:24 celeste? If you have any ideas of melodies I missed, please tell me! Also, I still would like to know who makes the music in these! I'm assuming these videos are just a one person project.
Hi, I’m SO interested to see how you combine rock and ground into geo type. Combining those two is something I’ve thought about alot, but couldn’t figure out how it would work in practice. I’d love to see other thoughts you have about type matchups.
A speedy supporter partnered with a tanky attacker sounds like a neat idea, and shows how gameplay styles can effect choices! Also I love the idea of referencing that old screensaver, especially the nostalgia as I LOVED watching that thing as a kid! x’D
Recently discovered your videos and love them!! Your voice is so soothing to listen to, while also keeping me so absorbed in the topic. Thank you for making these for us to enjoy :)
The tripirt line could alternatively get the contraty ability, since that ability does tie in with the theme of not knowing how this mon's oriented, especially since others mons that have it are malamar, a mon that evolves by turning upside down, and lurantis, which has the gimmick of real life orchid mantises, except completely flipped around to have a flower that looks like an insect. And as much as I'm sorry for taking malamar's signature move... come on, the move "topsy-turvy" would fit this mon very well (It's not like Grapploct didn't already take the opportunity to snag it as well)
Side note: It's just my opinion, but Rock and Ground should remain separated imo, since it creates some unbalancing on the type chart (plus, it makes it have 17 types and I'm kind of an even number type of person (except when it ends on 5, 5 is cool))
I really hope Gamefreak brings Fossil Pokemon back, and a part of me hopes they don't do anything too gimmicky, but I'd rather they be gimmicky than never come back.
I just want to say I appreciate how well these videos are put together. They’re so easy to watch visually with great clips and graphics and to listen to with such interesting anecdotes ✨ well done man, keep going
As a paleontology nerd, I love how you used the concept of carcinization for a pokemon, it's really creative and just gave me a boost of serotonin, thanks for that.
Currently the sail hypothesis for amargasaurus is considered highly unlikely; it seems that they actually had sharp keratin sheaths over the bone to make for an impressive defense against predators, since amargasaurus was one of the smaller sauropods. Meanwhile recent evidence suggests tyrannosaurus had feathers, and therefore ironically, if they were scientifically accurate, tyrantrum would be soft and fluffy while auroras would be hard and spiky!
Would be cool if they put a jurassic park in one of the games. Basically, a crazy rich scientist builds a theme park on an island filled with all of the revived fossil pokemon. Then you can go there(maybe post-game) and catch them sort of like the safari zone or other in game catching parks.
The notion that Anomalocaris was top of the food chain during its time is one of the most common paleo myths, while still fairly large for its time Anomalocaris was dwarfed by some of its larger relatives that barely anyone knows about, such as *Ramskoeldia* and *Omnidens*.
A fossil pokemon that would be cool to see is one where the modern day version of it has a small chance of holding a fossil that can revive its prehistoric version.
A topic you could tackle in a future video is Version Exclusives or counterparts in general, outside of legendaries for the most part, since that's an integral part of the Pokémon games
Love the video, but I have a nitpick with the phenonmenon of carcinization. You mention that carcinization is a case of convergent evolution. This is not true, carcinization is actually a case of parallel evolution. The difference is small but notable: convergent evolution is when different organisms with different ancestral states converge on the same derived state, while parallel evolution is when organisms comparable in morphology change in similar ways to continue to be comparable. To illustrate this with an example, sharks and dolphins can be considered as convergently evolved because the ancestor of modern elasmobranchs were fish while the ancestors of dolphins were hooved land mammals; anomuran decapods (emperor crabs and hermit crabs) and crabs did not convergently evolve because their ancestral state were practically the same, being generic crown lineage decapod and resembling modern true lobsters. Carcinization is a phenonmenon of parallel evolution, because all of the taxa that resemble crabs (i.e., true crabs, anomurans, porcelain crabs, squat lobsters) arose from animals that were ancestrally very similar to a lobster in niche and morphology. They are also all very closely related, being decapods. The only exception from this are the Cyclida, a group of Triassic crustaceans, but even their resemblence to crabs are skin deep, lacking characteristically crabby pincers (which were not independantly evolved by each 'crabby' group, but are an inhereted synapomorphy of decapods). Furthermore, carcinization really is not that impressive of a parallel evolution phenonmenon, because even though it happened in numerous clades, the mechanism is extremely simple - the reduction or folding of the tail. Imo, a far more interesting case of parallel evolution is the acquisition of face-saws in carteligenous fish, having occured independantly 3 times at least (sawfish, sawsharks, and mesozoic sawskates). In my opinion, the best two examples to showcase convergent evolution are vermification and armadillism (both terms I just invented lmao). Vermification is the tendancy of fossorial animals to evolve to be worm-like and lose their limbs. This is seen in snakes, annelids, diplopods, mud lobsters, annelids, nemerteans, amphisbaeneans, caecillians, and many others. Armadillism is the tendancy of animals to evolve the ability to conglobate (curl into a ball) and thus evolve more rotund shapes. This is seen in 3 clades of beetles, 3 clades of isopods, chitons, armadillos, trilobites, and diplopods. Another minor nitpick I have is your use of era when referring to a geological period (i.e., when you said 'cambrian era'). Eras are far longer spans of geological time and there are only 3 in the phanerozoic (the palaeozoic, mesozoic, and cenozoic). The Cambrian and Triassic are both geological periods, which are a subdivision of an era. I totally get this mistake though since the terminology can get confusing.
Would love to see a precambrian-based fossil pokemon but I understand how that wouldn't be appealing. The next best things would be Tannuella/Orthoceras and Opabinia.
Correction on a little detail: Carracosta is Water/Rock, not Rock/Water. So while having the same combination of types as Kabuto/Omanyte, it's technically a reverse one, as Water seems to be meant as the more important of Carracostas types. Thr order doesn't matter mechanically (yet), but it definitely has some reasoning tied to the concept/design of a Pokémon. And since you are making your own monster game, that could be an opportunity to explore the idea of the order of elements mattering in some gane mechanic way.
ironically the 4th Pokemon movie suppose to be about dinosaurs. But the idea was scrapped for Celebi. btw, Armaldo is weak to Rock so they are able to hurt each other with super effective damage with their STAB move
Thoughts on relicanth who said: fossil? Nah. And genesect? The altered fossil mon? Actually. I think it's pretty strange that not only did relicanth never fossilize. But it also never evolved. Weird. But awesome.
Having the gen 1 and gen 3 fossilmons (excluding aerodactyl) be prehistoric invertebrates was so cool and unique, I've always been pretty upset that from gen 4 onward they doubled down on the dinosaurs. Lots of regular mons are already dinosaurs anyway, we don't need them hogging the limelight in pokemon too!!! I do think the gen 8 fossils have an ingenious gimmick though, I do wonder what other kinds of ideas they have for future fossil pokemon. Also I would like to note that the "Arcto" half of the gen 8 fossils is in fact meant to be a plesiosaur; in Korean the "Fossilized Dino" that's used to represent it is straight up called "long neck". I find that interesting as it potentially suggests an ancient ancestor of Lapras, and the tail fluke would still be accurate as we DO have evidence for plesiosaurs with tail flukes. I also find it hilarious though, because it means that the animal's most defining feature (its long neck) is the part that's also just completely absent in this pokemon representation.
my favourite honorary member of the fossil group is relicanth. A Pokémon that was once believed to have been extinct. The species has not changed its form for 100 million years. It walks on the seafloor using its pectoral fins. It was fortuitously discovered during a deep sea expedition. Its teeth have atrophied, so it now survives on microscopic organisms it sucks up.
I love how many fossil mons are based on more unusual creatures instead of all being cool dinosaurs or ice age mammals There are so many strange animals out there that most people don’t know about, both living and extinct.
I love the carcinisation meme, but I also don’t like people getting wrong ideas about it. Thank you for clarifying that not everything is turning into a crab, just a lot of sea creatures, but failed to mention a few other things: Carcinisation is mostly just crab like animals and other crustaceans like lobsters. Decarcinisation is also a thing where crabs get more lobster like shapes. We have words for a lot of things; Defenestration is the act of throwing someone out of a window, but we don’t have a word for the day after tomorrow
Fossil Pokemon have so much potential. There's just so many weird paths you could go down.
Ikr like there’s so many extinct animals that can turn into Pokémon
That's true, yet I still think it's better for them to keep weird/impressive creatures as inspirations, otherwise we would lose a lot of unicness.
I have the concept of a mechanic where you could turn Pokemon into it's prehistoric form or ancestral form and future form (but mostly prehistoric since I'm a Paleontology enthusiasm) and a whole new region where it got froze in time and all the prehistoric Pokemon stay the same at it was
@@theAAtiger So Scarlet and Violet?
@@jeffbrownstain yea, it was SV but I feel like it's lean more into Paleontology side, not just "Mystery creatures brought back from the past or future", like the whole region is just Jurassic Park/World but Pokemon
As a former linguist and a current museum educator at one of the museums featured in this video, I love this video SO much 👏 Very well done explaining the bouba and kiki effect. I adore your lineless art so much and the designs of your Fakemon!!
If you're looking for a super easy linguistics concept to adapt into a Fakemon, might I suggest Jean Berko Gleason's wug test? Wugs are very, very cute.
They are bones
As someone who has seen bones, I can indeed say those are bones
So true!!
You are bones
So true bestie
I can in fact confirm after careful and heavy research that they are indeed bones
I ADORE the fact that gf decided not to give the water typing to Cradily and Armaldo just because they're marine lifeforms. I genuinely can't describe how much I appreciate that. We need more of it.
I wish actual geology was taught like this hehe, nice and simple, and lots of interesting information, well organized, and just fun to watch.
its not geology dude...
As just sort of a word of advice - from someone making their own creature collecting game, merging the ground and rock type can end up being a bad idea in the long run due to type matchups - soft mud and a hard stone will resist and be strong against vastly different things and it can result in the Geo type being lopsided. I also tried to merge them in my game and eventually decided it was for the best to split them up for type matchups’ sake.
Water / Ice, Steel (different types of metal), and Grass (a pliable leaf full of water vs a dry wooden trunk) are very different substances too. Element types won't ever match perfectly as they're a simplification of the real world. Some amount of suspension of disbelief is required for good gameplay.
@@parasitex5 yeah but that the thing. Let’s stick to Pokémon, rock and ground types do very different things gameplay wise. rock is more for countering specific types, ground is more general. Move pools include less rock moves and more ground.
And really it also adds weaknesses or to add defenses to particular mons which is how the game works.
These games are an elaborate version of rock paper scissors and you can’t just remove scissors from the game without some massive effort to re- balance not just the types but moves and stats.
At the end It would be the same water/grass/steel/fighting/ice weakness while having normal/Flying/bug/Fire/poison/ resistances, Electric immunity and Fairy/dragon/Ghost/psychic/dark and "Geo" dealing neutral damage, It wouldn't be a big issue imho
@@nicolasturetta7959 go play with a type coverage Pokédex calculator
rock hits 26.7% of the Pokédex super effectively
Ground hits 27%
Together they hit 47% of the Pokédex super effectively. In other words over half their coverage is not overlapping. And only 8 Pokémon resist both types
This games balance is very complicated. types are very difficult to mess and especially when design problems can lay dormant until one little thing one new move, one Pokémon with the right states and its balance is gone with no checks.
In many traditions there only had the earth element and the rest are just variations, while in chinese culture they made metal and wood as separated things from earth. Its all depends on how you balances types ingame.
The crystal palace dinosaurs were actually reasonably good attempts at scientific accuracy for the time period! I've always wanted to see Pokemon based off of them.
The likely inspiration for the mixed up fossil Pokemon is the inciting incident of the Bone Wars. Edward Drinker Cope showed his friend, Othniel Marsh, his new discovery: Elasmosaurus. Marsh took one look at it an immediately laughed at Cope, pointing out that he had put the skull on the end of the tail. This notorious incident kicked off their entire rivalry and I would think is the likely explanation for the mix'n'match Pokemon.
I will die on the hills that Kabuto/ps are horseshoe crabs. They share so much more in common with them than they do trilobites.
Oooh. More trilobites would be welcome!
I like how tripirt's name is a palindrome referencing how it's the same front and back but Halludrome completely abandons that naming scheme and it loses the symmetry. Very fitting evolution
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Wow you blew my mind, I woulda missed all that.
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Showing your fakemons fossil instead of the regular silhouette like in the other videos was a really nice touch
Something that i very much like about the Hoenn fossil Pokémon is they really embody the land and sea theme of the story of Ruby/Sapphire. They're both Pokémon that lived in the water, but neither are water types. One can theorize upon how the decisions of Archie and Maxie and their teams of either expanding the sea or the land and how that would affect the Lileep and Anorith as they went from ancient to modern times. And where does the living fossil Relicanth play in?
Your fossil pokemon are brilliant, by the way
Another nod with paleonthology is the presence of sea creatures fossils in the desert sugests the place used to be a sea millions of years ago, like in real life Sahara.
I totally agree with you that the 1v1 match up between a generation's fossils/exclusives shouldn't be the deciding factor. However I think it's worth mentioning that with Cradily and Armaldo's type match up, both take one of the other's type neutral and are weak to the other. Armaldo is hit neutral by grass and is weak to rock, while Cradily is hit neutral by rock and weak to bug.
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this is dope. I love how your fossils put a spin on the "fast sweeper vs. slow wall" pattern, with one being fast but defensive and the other being slow but offensive. very creative!
When you realize that we had not just one but two missed chances for nonrock fossil Pokemon. The Tundra DLC has a sector where they didn't go extinct so could have had versions of them that evolved naturally and Scarlet is about time travel so could have had primal version of them plucked from the past.
though we did get nonrock fossil pokémon before all those
@@Melecie yeah but they had that whole wrong fossils put together theme going.
Amongus reference made me jump lol
Same and at 4:20 too
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Your designs were really interesting ! I like that those aren't just very popular dinosaurs but actually unknown yet interesting creatures. It won't stop me from wondering what a Pokémon based on parasaurolophus or ankylosaurus could look like, but I really like discovering new inspirations for designs.
Charmeleon always looked like a parasaurolophus to me (though I guess it doesn't really act all that much like one). And torterra always seemed to have a bit of ankylosaur in it, particularly the head, even if it is pretty clearly mostly world turtle.
The fossil pokemon are cool in that you look at them and wonder what they was like in the past. It was mentioned that the fossilization process is why they all share the rock type, minus the gen 8 fossils. I still love the gen 8 fossil pokemon for the mix-and-match concept. I do agree that I don't see it being repeated unless we get the completed versions of the fossil fragments.
Your fossil pokemon look amazing and I love how you based them around brains vs brawn. My favorite has to be Halludrome because I love how bizarre Hallucgenia looks. It looks so alien that I'm surprised we haven't had an official fossil pokemon based on it. This is a minor thing to point out, but the type icons for Anodukes has the symbol for psychic instead of fighting.
Thank you for pointing out the mistake; I'll add it to the description!
If the "fossil pokemon are rock type because of the defossilization process" thing is true, I would love to see ice fossils become the ice-type, or the tar fossils possibly gaining the fire-type (or maybe grass type or some ability that has it swap between the 2)?
@@n0rtist thanks
Where did you read that the fossilization is why they are rock types? I thought the gen 8 fossils debunked it
The mix and match aspect of the Gen 8 Fossils are based on England’s Bone wars, where decades ago people really wanted to brag about how they had the newer and better fossils so they rushed to make “””new””” fossils by just putting different fossil bones together and calling them new
The Bone wars occurred in the United States not in the United Kingdom.
The bone wars weren't English though. It was a conflict between two American paleontologists, namely Othniel Charles Marsh and Edmund Drinker Cope.
your thumbnails are always so cute and scrunkly and eepy keep up the good work
the amoongSUS moment was pure gold. i love the work you put into these, they are innovative and a fresh take into mons.
Melodies that aren't pokemon
0:15 Jurassic park theme
2:24 celeste?
If you have any ideas of melodies I missed, please tell me! Also, I still would like to know who makes the music in these! I'm assuming these videos are just a one person project.
Hi, I’m SO interested to see how you combine rock and ground into geo type. Combining those two is something I’ve thought about alot, but couldn’t figure out how it would work in practice.
I’d love to see other thoughts you have about type matchups.
I am currently in love with the Soft Piano Jurassic Park theme he used
7:33 Obligatory RUMBLING RUMBLING, IT’S COMING, RUMBLING RUMBLING!
Great video. Love your art style.
I really enjoyed digging fossils in Sinnoh. I think it was the best way of getting fossilmons.
got a little sus at 4:20
A speedy supporter partnered with a tanky attacker sounds like a neat idea, and shows how gameplay styles can effect choices!
Also I love the idea of referencing that old screensaver, especially the nostalgia as I LOVED watching that thing as a kid! x’D
0:05 all hail the mighty holy helix
Whoever makes the thumbnail art has a cool style that really works well with pokemon
Gotta say, I love your artstyle. It's so adorable and unique
6:22 I love the picture of rowlet with the disappointed “gen seven had no fossils”
I just want to appreciate all the poke-doodles you make. You make the cutest cuter and the edgiest (somehow) cute AND edgy.
Recently discovered your videos and love them!! Your voice is so soothing to listen to, while also keeping me so absorbed in the topic. Thank you for making these for us to enjoy :)
Kabuto/Kabutops is my favorite "psuedo bug type", provides so much coverage to the actual type while blending in perfectly
0:18 I need that Jurassic park audio or song
The -vish head from Gen 8 is a Dunkleosteus... That was why it gave me the déjà-vu!
wow your illustrations are SO nice, pleasing to look at, and super duper cute!!!!
Another banger of a video, really glad i found this channel
OMG I just saw the PBS crab special earlier today! 😃 This video made me smile bc of how much I've always loved the fossil-mons ^_^
That was a really well made and paced video buddy! A good watch!
this truly is about fossil pokemon!!!
Can I just say, thank you for the Kingdom Hearts Remixes for background music.
I’m so glad the ice picture is just “boy am I glad he’s frozen in there and we’re out here”
Oh, I remember that Microsoft Windows screensaver from my tweenage years in the late 90s/early 00s! That colourful CGI cube...
Wow I really really liked your fossils concepts and designs!! I wish they were real!
The tripirt line could alternatively get the contraty ability, since that ability does tie in with the theme of not knowing how this mon's oriented, especially since others mons that have it are malamar, a mon that evolves by turning upside down, and lurantis, which has the gimmick of real life orchid mantises, except completely flipped around to have a flower that looks like an insect.
And as much as I'm sorry for taking malamar's signature move... come on, the move "topsy-turvy" would fit this mon very well (It's not like Grapploct didn't already take the opportunity to snag it as well)
Side note: It's just my opinion, but Rock and Ground should remain separated imo, since it creates some unbalancing on the type chart (plus, it makes it have 17 types and I'm kind of an even number type of person (except when it ends on 5, 5 is cool))
I really hope Gamefreak brings Fossil Pokemon back, and a part of me hopes they don't do anything too gimmicky, but I'd rather they be gimmicky than never come back.
I love your artstyle, its very unique and interesting to see
I love your take on fossil Pokémon much more than some other official ones
I feel like yours have way more cradily-bility
OMG I cannot state how much I adore the Jurassic Park theme done in Pokemon style
I love your thumbnails and this is a great video! Will be checking out more of your stuff. Keep it up!
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I love the Jurassic park refference at the start
I love your videos so much, they make me feel like when I first picked up the games in 2010!!
3:13 my beloved
I just want to say I appreciate how well these videos are put together. They’re so easy to watch visually with great clips and graphics and to listen to with such interesting anecdotes ✨ well done man, keep going
in my heart relicanth is also a fossil pokemon, even if it managed to not get extinct
I absaloutly adore your art style.
As a paleontology nerd, I love how you used the concept of carcinization for a pokemon, it's really creative and just gave me a boost of serotonin, thanks for that.
Wonderful designs - it has roots in science, biology, but looks great and captures the imagination - well done :)
Love the jurassic park leitmotif in the beginning.
Currently the sail hypothesis for amargasaurus is considered highly unlikely; it seems that they actually had sharp keratin sheaths over the bone to make for an impressive defense against predators, since amargasaurus was one of the smaller sauropods. Meanwhile recent evidence suggests tyrannosaurus had feathers, and therefore ironically, if they were scientifically accurate, tyrantrum would be soft and fluffy while auroras would be hard and spiky!
Would be cool if they put a jurassic park in one of the games. Basically, a crazy rich scientist builds a theme park on an island filled with all of the revived fossil pokemon. Then you can go there(maybe post-game) and catch them sort of like the safari zone or other in game catching parks.
GOD I LOVE THESE CUTE LITTLE POKEMON ILLUSTRATIONS
The notion that Anomalocaris was top of the food chain during its time is one of the most common paleo myths, while still fairly large for its time Anomalocaris was dwarfed by some of its larger relatives that barely anyone knows about, such as *Ramskoeldia* and *Omnidens*.
A fossil pokemon that would be cool to see is one where the modern day version of it has a small chance of holding a fossil that can revive its prehistoric version.
I know this is out of topic, but I would like to say that you did a REALLY GREAT job at auto battlemon!
A topic you could tackle in a future video is Version Exclusives or counterparts in general, outside of legendaries for the most part, since that's an integral part of the Pokémon games
Love the video, but I have a nitpick with the phenonmenon of carcinization.
You mention that carcinization is a case of convergent evolution. This is not true, carcinization is actually a case of parallel evolution. The difference is small but notable: convergent evolution is when different organisms with different ancestral states converge on the same derived state, while parallel evolution is when organisms comparable in morphology change in similar ways to continue to be comparable.
To illustrate this with an example, sharks and dolphins can be considered as convergently evolved because the ancestor of modern elasmobranchs were fish while the ancestors of dolphins were hooved land mammals; anomuran decapods (emperor crabs and hermit crabs) and crabs did not convergently evolve because their ancestral state were practically the same, being generic crown lineage decapod and resembling modern true lobsters.
Carcinization is a phenonmenon of parallel evolution, because all of the taxa that resemble crabs (i.e., true crabs, anomurans, porcelain crabs, squat lobsters) arose from animals that were ancestrally very similar to a lobster in niche and morphology. They are also all very closely related, being decapods. The only exception from this are the Cyclida, a group of Triassic crustaceans, but even their resemblence to crabs are skin deep, lacking characteristically crabby pincers (which were not independantly evolved by each 'crabby' group, but are an inhereted synapomorphy of decapods).
Furthermore, carcinization really is not that impressive of a parallel evolution phenonmenon, because even though it happened in numerous clades, the mechanism is extremely simple - the reduction or folding of the tail. Imo, a far more interesting case of parallel evolution is the acquisition of face-saws in carteligenous fish, having occured independantly 3 times at least (sawfish, sawsharks, and mesozoic sawskates).
In my opinion, the best two examples to showcase convergent evolution are vermification and armadillism (both terms I just invented lmao).
Vermification is the tendancy of fossorial animals to evolve to be worm-like and lose their limbs. This is seen in snakes, annelids, diplopods, mud lobsters, annelids, nemerteans, amphisbaeneans, caecillians, and many others. Armadillism is the tendancy of animals to evolve the ability to conglobate (curl into a ball) and thus evolve more rotund shapes. This is seen in 3 clades of beetles, 3 clades of isopods, chitons, armadillos, trilobites, and diplopods.
Another minor nitpick I have is your use of era when referring to a geological period (i.e., when you said 'cambrian era'). Eras are far longer spans of geological time and there are only 3 in the phanerozoic (the palaeozoic, mesozoic, and cenozoic). The Cambrian and Triassic are both geological periods, which are a subdivision of an era. I totally get this mistake though since the terminology can get confusing.
Cradily, Rampardos, Carracosta and Aurorus are my fav fossils.
Made me realize that every couple gens they’ll skip adding Fossil mons. So here’s to hoping for new ones in next gen.
Aerodactyl is my true favorite Pokémon ever, and I’m glad you don’t have to choose between it and something else
Would love to see a precambrian-based fossil pokemon but I understand how that wouldn't be appealing. The next best things would be Tannuella/Orthoceras and Opabinia.
The Jurassic Park theme nod at the start is awesome
Correction on a little detail:
Carracosta is Water/Rock, not Rock/Water. So while having the same combination of types as Kabuto/Omanyte, it's technically a reverse one, as Water seems to be meant as the more important of Carracostas types.
Thr order doesn't matter mechanically (yet), but it definitely has some reasoning tied to the concept/design of a Pokémon.
And since you are making your own monster game, that could be an opportunity to explore the idea of the order of elements mattering in some gane mechanic way.
I love the illustrations!
ironically the 4th Pokemon movie suppose to be about dinosaurs. But the idea was scrapped for Celebi.
btw, Armaldo is weak to Rock so they are able to hurt each other with super effective damage with their STAB move
Thoughts on relicanth who said: fossil? Nah. And genesect? The altered fossil mon? Actually. I think it's pretty strange that not only did relicanth never fossilize. But it also never evolved. Weird. But awesome.
I really like you art style. nice video continue like that.
Having the gen 1 and gen 3 fossilmons (excluding aerodactyl) be prehistoric invertebrates was so cool and unique, I've always been pretty upset that from gen 4 onward they doubled down on the dinosaurs. Lots of regular mons are already dinosaurs anyway, we don't need them hogging the limelight in pokemon too!!! I do think the gen 8 fossils have an ingenious gimmick though, I do wonder what other kinds of ideas they have for future fossil pokemon.
Also I would like to note that the "Arcto" half of the gen 8 fossils is in fact meant to be a plesiosaur; in Korean the "Fossilized Dino" that's used to represent it is straight up called "long neck". I find that interesting as it potentially suggests an ancient ancestor of Lapras, and the tail fluke would still be accurate as we DO have evidence for plesiosaurs with tail flukes. I also find it hilarious though, because it means that the animal's most defining feature (its long neck) is the part that's also just completely absent in this pokemon representation.
The images used for the pokemon are so cute and adorable!
that aurorus sprite is so adorable omggggg
I love the art style!
the art in this video is gorgeous
I can't be the only one who heard "the booba and kinky effect."
I always like it when people realize just how much the first gen games take inspiration from Jurassic Park.
10:13 we already are
Omnivore
Grabby
Can heal cut off limbs to a degree
Can rave
Can swim
Can play in sand
Have legs
5:11 a good example is kirby ironically they chose it cuz it was a sharp sounding name and he was very circular
my favourite honorary member of the fossil group is relicanth. A Pokémon that was once believed to have been extinct. The species has not changed its form for 100 million years. It walks on the seafloor using its pectoral fins. It was fortuitously discovered during a deep sea expedition. Its teeth have atrophied, so it now survives on microscopic organisms it sucks up.
I did not know about hallucinogenia before this. I'm happy I learned about it, though!
I havent finished the video yet! But im sure itll be entertaining, ur content of pokemon and science is so fun! Given science is my fav Subject!
Those designs are great!
I just wanna say I love your videos n0rtist! thanks for making them.
Those fossil Pokémon LOOK SO COOL!
I adore your designs!
The reason Alola doesn’t have any fossils is because the Hawaiian island chain is to young to have any fossils formed on the island.
But there's fossils in the water near Hawaii
me when i spread misinformation online
Alola is not just Hawaii, but more like “pacific island” region.
@Robbie Q exactly, im a native māori New Zealander and we have fossils here. idk what this fulla is on about
That's super not true
i gotta say the art in the thumbnail looks fantastic
I love how many fossil mons are based on more unusual creatures instead of all being cool dinosaurs or ice age mammals
There are so many strange animals out there that most people don’t know about, both living and extinct.
That palindrome pun is great at tying the history into the mon!
I love the carcinisation meme, but I also don’t like people getting wrong ideas about it. Thank you for clarifying that not everything is turning into a crab, just a lot of sea creatures, but failed to mention a few other things:
Carcinisation is mostly just crab like animals and other crustaceans like lobsters.
Decarcinisation is also a thing where crabs get more lobster like shapes.
We have words for a lot of things; Defenestration is the act of throwing someone out of a window, but we don’t have a word for the day after tomorrow
When talking about fossil pokemon i always interested on pokemon like mamoswine and raelicanth because they really have the prehistoric core design