50cc Scooter Ignition Switch Wiring How To [Lost Key]
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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
- Lost your key? Here is was you do!
How the ignition switch/key wiring of your Chinese 49cc 50cc scooter works.
How to start the scooter without the key.
How to wire up toggle switches to replace a lost key (race car mode)
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This video was so impressively put together it helped me 100%
I'm glad to hear that Jean! Thanks for the compliment.
this may have been the most helpful video
possibly ever
Most helpful video for my situation thanks friend good job explaining everything
My pleasure, friend
Thanks this helped! I lost the keys from someone's moped this helped me out.
Do i have to cut the red wire? And by connecting the black with the red can i just kickstart it or do i have to tape them together
You need to use a switch so you can short out the red & black to start up and also unshort the black/white & green wires at the same time. You need what is called a double pole double throw and connect the red and green to the two commons and black to the Normally Open contact where the red is connected to common. Connect the black/white to the normally closed contact of the common green wire. One pair opens (disconnects) from each other green/black&white and the other pair gets connected red & black when you start the bike by throwing the switch.
Excellent video. Thank you dude!!
You can use one switch if you use the right type. I think it would work with a double pull double throw switch.
As long as it functions the same then yes, you can use other switch types
Thx for showing this man it really help me understand. My question is whats the name of that female end plug that connects all four wires? Like the thing you hold throughout video. I need to buy it but i dont know what its called. I have the male ended part that comes from igniton but female part is missing.
Male Ignition harness plug maybe?
Need this for this icebear trike I just got thank god
Thank you for the help
fuses are good battery is charged
Thank you, I’m gonna try in my sym allo 50, I lost the key
Hope it works for you
Hey do you have the correct link to get the replacement ignition switch for this 4 wire set up
No I only used switches. Try searching for replacement key sets for 50cc scooters. If I recall they are $15 USD and come with new keys, ignition, seat lock and trunk lock. You can swap them all out and have the same key for all.
Do you know why I don’t have power going to the red wire the battery is good
Check the fuse next to the battery. Follow there red wire from the battery and you will see it.
I have a question I took the plug out of the ignition and now idk how to put new key ditch it’s same wiring color as yours .i touch to wires and the schock you with electric current do those go together
I just saw this. It sounds like you are connecting the positive and negative wire together. They do not do that. You are essentially shorting out the system. You might need to check your fuse now.
I purchased a stolen recovered Chinese scooter from a salvage company on eBay no keys. There are only two wires coming out of the ignition barrel so I hot wired the two wires of the main harness and I have lights horn even starter motor but no spark from the plug my question is do I have to have a working ignition barrel with key etc or is it something else?
Probably something else buddy. Check the CDI / ignition wire I was talking about by the battery. It's probably still grounded.
I have tao tao 2020 50cc scooter I have all of the wires you described except that I have 2 green wires instead of 1. What are they supposed to be connected to?
Thanks
I'm not too familiar. I would say trace the wires to the source and see. If I recall correctly, green was ground, so just ground it off. But double check first
@@MileHighDreamz thanks for replying so quickly. I actually figured it out, I just connected the green wires together and that made my electric start work and my run / stop switch work too. I just connect the red and black to turn it on and keep the green wires together.
@@J-money3I3 awesome, your welcome
@@J-money3I3 hey did you have a black with white stripe? What did you do with it
green with green and the red with black
Hey man quick question , so i just rewired my scoot and it was my very first time ever doing anything like this, so now that it’s all finished the bike will start off the kick, but when I push the push button I wired in for the start button it just turns over and won’t start, is there something I can do the wiring to get it to start? What did I possibly do wrong?? Did way with the key completely and all my switches on the handlebars, I got a flip switch to cut power on, a flip switch for my headlights & tail lights, then a push button to fire the scoot up, but like I said it won’t do anything but turn over with the push button 😭😭
Do you have a switch for the CDI? It sounds to me like you don't have ignition (spark) which would be the CDI that is still grounding out. Make sure the CDI is NOT grounded when you are trying to get it to run.
@@MileHighDreamz without ignition spark it’ll still start with the kick and run fine?? Cause mine will
No it will not start without spark. Allow me to rephrase the question. When you kick start the scooter and it runs fine... think of any switch or button you moved afterwards to start it electronically. Are any of those switches or wires affecting the CDI ground? If so, maybe you are grounding out the CDI while pushing or switching whatever you are moving.
Option two. Is the battery very weak and the engine turning over slowly? Maybe try jump starting it or charging the battery.... everything could be fine but it just isn't turning over fast enough.
@@MileHighDreamz engine is turning over slowly for some odd reason, but the battery is fully charged , but it is a small battery but I figured it would at least be enough to start the bike, I just started messing with it last night trying to get it running , I’ve had it apart down to the frame this month getting the frame welded up and wheelie pegs put on, then painted it all, now just trying to get it dialed in , I reckon ima try and jump it today when I get home and see if the battery is just too little to start the bike
@@MileHighDreamz also I’m not really sure on how to check to see if wires are effecting the CDI ground, I’m a complete armature at wiring , ima good mechanic but new to wiring
fuses are good and battery is charged
@@BruceCook-v3j I’m not sure. Check your cdi wiring. There isn’t much to the scooter, either so thing is shorted or open. Just follow the wires. Maybe even a ground
So I have a few wires coming off my ignition red and black which I have connected to a toggle switch to turn in and off power then I got two green which I found if I connect them together it’ll kick start just fine but the problem is my electric start won’t work, I do have one wire left which Is black with a white stripe, I believe my battery just keep draining I think but what should I do with this black wire with a white stripe? Cause kick starting it works the way I have it now but I want the electric start to work any ideas?
So what I understand is you have 4 wires. 1 red. 1 black. 2 green. 1 black/white. Watch from the 2 minute mark again when I talk about what is connect to what and when.
If I had to guess, your red and black wire connect just as mine, and they power the turn signals, running light (even when it's off) etc. You have to disconnect these two when you are not using the scooter or else your battery will drain to zero.
The black/white wire leads to your CDI (the thing that makes the spark for your spark plug) if you connect it to a ground wire (one of your green wires if I had to guess) then it will stop the CDI from working. So leave this disconnect if you want the motor to start. Ground it if you want to disable the bike.
For the two green wires. I would suggest to follow them. One is probably ground, I'm not sure about the other. Try connecting them as well as the black and red wires and see if it starts with the electric starter.
Look at the wires going to your starter button and electric motor and see what color they are and that will give you a clue
@@MileHighDreamz ok perfect I’ll take a look again tonight I do know I think I touched the green to the red and black and it blew my fuse so I had to replace that and haven’t tried since
@@MileHighDreamz also do you know why my battery wouldn’t be keeping a charge? It’s brand new I have a switch for the red and black I shut it off when I’m not using the bike but it’s like it’s not charging fully does it take a while to charge it back up?
If the fuse is blown then your starter will not work. Put a voltage meter on the battery when it is running and see what the voltage is
@@MileHighDreamz are you talking about the fuse on the battery the inline fuse or?
can i eliminate the plug and hard wire the ignition back to a torn harness? thanks in advance
I'm not sure where you are doing this but as long the wires are going to where they need to be then I don't see why not. You will want to switch whatever wires connect /disconnect during normal operations
So just put the black and red wire together and it will start by kick starting?
If your wires are the same colors and that's what I said in the video, then yes. It's been a while and I do not recall off the top of my head.
@@MileHighDreamz 🙏 thanks
Please reply bro, so I have a 150 and I have red, green black and pink wires in my scooter. New ignitions aren't working
I would probe the wires if i were you and trace them to be sure. Red is probably the hot 12volt wires. Green is probably ground. Black is switched power, and if pink isn't constant power then it's the same same as my black and white wire... but that's just a guess.
ive got a 49.5cc schwinn sport scooter. i py passed the ingnition switch to start my scooter after ridding it . while i was ridding it it died and i have no power to the stater switch button and i have no lights or blinkers working
@@BruceCook-v3j sounds like you shorted something out, blew a fuse, or your battery isn’t being charged. Check the fuse
what about if theres ana alarm ? is there a way to diable that?
Sus... lol. I don't have experience with those but I'm guessing it's aftermarket. Find it and cut it out... problem solved
I'm using this key switch for my Yamaha xj550 motorcycle because I got the bike with the wiring a mess key ignition switch is janky an don't work. I need to know how to hook this key switch with 4 wires same colors as ur, too my motorcycle key harness witch is only 3 wires Red 12v constant, Blue for my accessories, an a Brown for my ignition..any help would be great thanks
I would look up the manual for your specific ignition you purchased.
Do you have the old ignition. Switch to reference? Maybe Google 3 wire motorcycle ignition switch and see what it does.
If no luck, try using a multi meter measuring resistance/continuity to see what pins are connected/disconnected in each position. Write it down and then see which should connect to which. Give it shot with only three wires. If you think you are missing a ground, then run your own wire from the 4 pin ignition switch ground pin to the frame or battery... Then wire it up from there.
Im not liable to anything your mess up.... but if I had to guess. In the off position nothing is connected. In the on position, The 12v is connected to the accessory wire. In the start/crank position the 12v is connected to the ignition wire to turn the motor. Again, purely a guess.
I have my key I switch to a 150 cc what do I do with the black wire where I connect that one it pop my fuse 10 I’m going to have to get 15 it also turned on the one that popped I connected everything the way that shirt is the black wire is giving me a headache......
I had the same issue during my swap. You need to replace the rectifier with the one for a 150cc engine when you do the swap. I have a video on how to do the 150cc swap and it is very detailed. Look there as well. I just saw this question.
I don't recall changing the fuse size. If that still doesn't work then you need to look for a short in the system where the black wire is contacting a ground.
Hey so I have a kymco k-pipe 125 and the solder broke off the red wire so the previous owner pulled all wires down to bypass it! I’m trying to figure out where to solder the wires back so I can just use my key but mainly the green, and black w. White stripes so I don’t have to cross the red and black when I want to ride. I have the same colors you mention but I tried starting it with all the wires unhooked just to see if the G., and B/W wires was what u mentioned but won’t start or even stay running when I unhook em! Can you help with what wires go where under the ignition? Google doesn’t help lol really just trying to make sure that with the key off the G, and B/W wires contact! And R, and B wires contact when the switch is on
I don't have the scooter anymore, but I would say twist wires together to figure out which need to connect with which, and then use a multimeter to check for continuity between the posts on the ignition. If you don't understand, Google how to check for continuity using a multimeter.
Or just do trial and error. You can always redo it.
@@MileHighDreamz I figured it out thanks tho! I just checked continuity with off / on and figured out where to put the green and black n white wires! Didn’t matter what spot they went just as long as they went together with key off. Thanks for you fast reply tho bud
I have a geely jl50qt-14 moped with no ignition switch, would you happen to know what switch goes with it? Thanks!
No I wouldnt, but I'm sure you could make something work. Count your wires and buy an ignition switch with that number of connectors. Then figure out which wire is which and hook it up.
I am doing same
Someone stole my moped I got it back but the ignition is busted out so I got a replacement and I went to hook it up the old one was unplugged already I hooked up the new ignition but it won't crank do u know what he might have done? Thanks n advance.
Turn the key on and see if the lights work. If not, probably the fuse by the battery.
Can you kick start it?
@@MileHighDreamz yeah even b4 I got the new ignition I cld kick start it and the headlights worked and now that the new ignition is installed my turn signals work now to but does nothing when I turn key on and press starter button.
I would pull check to make sure the ignition switch/button is plugged in. Inspect all the wiring to make sure everything is connected. Verify your ground cables are connected as well. I have one running to the cylinder head and another to the starter.
After that you can check for voltage to the starter button. One side should be hot. Push the button while you measure the dead side and see if the button is passing voltage. Check voltages at the starter relay as well.
Before you check any of that...grab a multimeter and:
Check your battery to see if it's good.
If that's good then check if the starter is getting power when you push the starter.
@@MileHighDreamz got it working went to take the battery out and the top had lifted and the 2 shorter ends of the battery were bowed out bad so I bought a new battery and its working now. Thank you for ur help
Or no ,they can contact each other when motorcycle running if they do the motorcycle stop running ?? What am I doing wrong those wires that schock you can’t be together ???
I dont understand your question.
The black/white wire should not be connected to anything when the engine is running.
@@MileHighDreamz only that one ? Cuz theirs 2wires from my key ignition that give current
@@jadieltorres9257 what color are they? The black and white wire is the one that grounds out the ignition and stops it from working. Only one of the 4 wires should have power with the bike off, from what I remember
@@MileHighDreamz which one has power with the bike off ? and my wires are the same as yours fr
The video explains it clearly. Did you try watching it again? Should be the red one if I remember correctly that comes off the battery. Please watch again and see if you find the answer
If I unplug it will it start
????
Will a riding lawn mower switch work??
I don't know. I would imagine yes if it does the same thing. Test it with a multimeter.
Let's sayyy I hooked the black and red to crank the scooter I touched the wrong spot and heard it pop like a breaker kicking seen some sparks how would I reset the wiring it's not showing me I got power no blinkers breaks not even turning to show me I got a full tank of gas what do I doo
Check the small round fuse by the battery
Can somebody help me. I have a ignition with 5 cabels 1 red q black 1 green 1 gray 1 red and white what Are all does cabels
And i want to put swithes instead og a ignition
What is it on?
Ugh when I do this and I start with the electric starter cause of the battery won’t start but the crank for some reason isn’t working ,any idea why?
Sorry I'm lost in translation. I think you are saying the scooter does not turn over with the electric starter?
Is your battery good?
Did you check the fuse by the battery?
Thank u. Do u have a page on ig or something? I would like to send u a pic and make a question
MileHighDreamz
Ummmm i did this and all i got was my fuse smoking and sparks at battery help plz
Sounds like you connected your battery cable (with the fuse on it), to your ground cable.
What color wires do you have and which ones did you connect to which? Which ones smoked?
@@MileHighDreamz the colors are green-common ground
Black/white- cdi wire
Red- positive to battery
Black- idk where goes
Im trying to get my lights and everything working but Once i connected red and black like u said in video but i just got sparks at battery and smoke at the red wire fuse Xd
I would suggest using a multimeter or test light to verify. With the harness unplugged by the ignition switch.... Test between battery positive and green wire to verify you have voltage/the light turns on. Test negative on the battery to the red wire to verify it is 12v/light turns on. Test negative on the battery to black wire on the plug and it should be 0v/no light. Now test between the red wire on the plug and the green wire on the plug, it should read 12v/light on. Make sure the fuse is replaced before doing all this or the red wire tests won't show anything. I don't see why your color code would be different than mine, but that will verify it. You may also have a short somewhere in the system causing the fuse to pop.
@@MileHighDreamz Ill give that a try once i have a voltage meter and ima take wires off and look at it to see if there is a short somewhere also thank u for the fast replys
But I have a green 2 black red and yellow wire
I would test and/or follow the wires to be sure. If you’re saying 5 total then I’m guessing red is switched positive, yellow is hot positive, green and black are for lights and ground but I’m not sure, it’s just a guess. I’m not liable if you mess up.
tried this and it keeps just shorting something... so ended up taking a screwdriver and a hammer and breaking the locking mechanism of the switch so now i can just turn it with a flat head.
Yours must be different or you had something set up wrong. Glad the screwdriver worked for you
@@MileHighDreamz well its the same wiring execpt i tried starting it with the electric start cause my kistarter is broken need to replace the cog and the lever...
@@MileHighDreamz thanks anyway.
found an ignition switch of aliexpress for 2 bucks shipped should i buy it😂😂
just dissconect the wires or cut them and kickstart it
That's how I had it. You won't have the full lights/electrical accessories available.
naa g connect red and black after for full use, den push green and other black through and touch wen u need to kill it if theres no kill switch
@@Tcrash17 yo g how do i grab one with steering lock bro
Bummer mine is chinese taotao so colors are all different
Shouldn't be too different. Just look at the source for your answer.
I TRY THAT AN THE CABLE STARS SMOKING LIKE BURNING .... WHY THIS HAPPEND? I HAVE A YAMAHA JOG
Sounds like you connected a positive wire to ground wire. Get a multimeter and see which wire is which
i need a more clearer video matee
More clear as in the content, or the graphics? If it's graphics, check your internet connection or setting in the bottom right of the screen. If its content, then what is your question, or what did I not cover clear enough for you?