check front to back tram at the ends and in the middle youll find the shims bend those 50mm rails in the cent. get rid of the shims and use the 8 adjustment screws to set tram from to back
@@Hatchmade support for these cnc routers is poor in my opinion it ruined my buying experience. ive never had this issue with anything ive bought. idk the machine is fine but i have very little good to say about thier customer service.
@@bubba6945 I have nothing but good things to say about their support. If you reach out to them in the way they ask you to, which for technical issues is via email, and customer related\delivery issues telephone, then I have had nothing but incredibly quick and even going as far as to video call me to look into the issues. I am in the UK and they sent spare parts to me that reached me within 48 hours of diagnosing the issue, door to door, from Canada to the UK. You can't ask for better than that.
Thanks, great video and simple way to tram the 1F. Beginning to see so many 1F screws locking up that it may be the hard anodizing and screw material creating it. a bit of white grease or anti-seize compound may help. 1F should design an adjustment for tilting the router front / back and side to side.
Completely agree. It would take a relatively minor adjustment to their tool paths to add four grub screws to tilt it forward and backward for sure. I thought about doing it myself and I might when I move the machine to it’s permanent home.
Thanks for watching. Most of the onefinity stuff I’ve seen is along the lines of “look at this machine that’s perfect with no flaws…” would I buy another one? Absolutely but it does have a couple issues.
I had this same thing happen to my z axis bolts and spent a month chasing replacements. Onefinity had 10mm M5 Low Shoulder (not 12mm) listed on their 'help' site until I pointed out to them it was wrong.... only AFTER ordering 10mm versions BEFORE extracting all 4 stripped bolts. (If figured wrongly to keep the machine usable until replacements arrived.) I live in a decent sized city in the US and even the local Fastenal didn't have these. 1F customer service seemed very helpful. Had I contacted them first, they implied they would have just sent replacements , but because I chose wrongly to use the forums and the post they provided on the topic, they would gladly now invoice me for replacements. At least they corrected the forum post. With my machine down it was more affordable to pay 35 bucks US for the box of 100 (most of that shipping) than hope they get around to charging me for 4 and shipping from Canada. I should have did what you did, I could find those at any box store.
That's exactly why I didn't order them from them. When I need to fix something I want to be able to go grab the part and move on. They really should have designed that part a bit better. I can't see how another 1/8th of an inch clearance would have affected anything.
CNC sure does add a whole new complexity to the shop. I tend to obsess over getting my table saw to cut squarely. I can't imagine owning a CNC router. I could never leave the shop. I would be trapped in the searching for perfection loop. Again!
I figure when it comes to wood, if I’m 1 or 2 thou out over what amounts to a 24 inch span I’m not going to complain. Wood is going to move more than that if it rains tomorrow.
Just watched the video. You didn’t mention adding anti seize to the new bolts. It’s extremely important to add anti seize when using stainless steel hardware.
Apparently I was misinformed. Stainless is not as hard as steel. However the larger head is harder to strip out than the pathetic little ones they have stock. Also these are locally available to me. The OEM ones weren’t and were more expensive.
I don't get it. Been doing this stuff for over 60 years and I cannot understand how you can machine your table flat using a spindle that is mounted to a not very rigid axis that is mounted to a table that is not very flat. Now when you tram the table I think you are just checking how closely the spindle followed the not flat table? please help!
It is a common misconception that stainless steel bolts are harder. Sorry to break the news to you but low profile(short head) alloy steel 1/4-20 have a tensile strength of 140,000 psi whereas stainless steel of the same size and configuration is half that, 70,000 psi. The more you know🌠
I did a bit of looking and it turns out you’re probably right. However for you hardness and tensile strength, while typically correlated, are not the same thing. The more you know.
@@Hatchmade n each side there are bolts front and rear of each tube. go to the onefinity forum thees detaled info there to help you. they are very touchy so adjust them while you abserve your dial indicator. and i meen very touchy lol
why not use the front,rear tramming bolts instead of using shims? Thats one of the reasons I bought a onefinity. Seems like nobody on youtube knows this!
Because onefinity does a terrible job of pointing that out to people. I wasn’t aware that that was a possibility until after I had done this and I looked multiple times on their website and on google and everything I saw said you had to shim it like every other machine.
check front to back tram at the ends and in the middle youll find the shims bend those 50mm rails in the cent. get rid of the shims and use the 8 adjustment screws to set tram from to back
They need to make a better point of pointing those out because I looked everywhere for how to do it and it’s not very apparent.
@@Hatchmade support for these cnc routers is poor in my opinion it ruined my buying experience. ive never had this issue with anything ive bought. idk the machine is fine but i have very little good to say about thier customer service.
@@bubba6945 I have nothing but good things to say about their support. If you reach out to them in the way they ask you to, which for technical issues is via email, and customer related\delivery issues telephone, then I have had nothing but incredibly quick and even going as far as to video call me to look into the issues. I am in the UK and they sent spare parts to me that reached me within 48 hours of diagnosing the issue, door to door, from Canada to the UK. You can't ask for better than that.
Your video today fixed a 15 thousandth variation. Mine was using a socket to stop 1/4 inche gouging using a screwdriver. Pretty much identical...
Pretty close to the same thing😂
Thanks, great video and simple way to tram the 1F. Beginning to see so many 1F screws locking up that it may be the hard anodizing and screw material creating it. a bit of white grease or anti-seize compound may help. 1F should design an adjustment for tilting the router front / back and side to side.
Completely agree. It would take a relatively minor adjustment to their tool paths to add four grub screws to tilt it forward and backward for sure. I thought about doing it myself and I might when I move the machine to it’s permanent home.
I also find it funny that this is the one video I’ve tagged them on on Instagram that they haven’t shared 😂😂
Thank you for showing the bad with the good.
Thanks for watching. Most of the onefinity stuff I’ve seen is along the lines of “look at this machine that’s perfect with no flaws…” would I buy another one? Absolutely but it does have a couple issues.
I had this same thing happen to my z axis bolts and spent a month chasing replacements. Onefinity had 10mm M5 Low Shoulder (not 12mm) listed on their 'help' site until I pointed out to them it was wrong.... only AFTER ordering 10mm versions BEFORE extracting all 4 stripped bolts. (If figured wrongly to keep the machine usable until replacements arrived.) I live in a decent sized city in the US and even the local Fastenal didn't have these. 1F customer service seemed very helpful. Had I contacted them first, they implied they would have just sent replacements , but because I chose wrongly to use the forums and the post they provided on the topic, they would gladly now invoice me for replacements. At least they corrected the forum post. With my machine down it was more affordable to pay 35 bucks US for the box of 100 (most of that shipping) than hope they get around to charging me for 4 and shipping from Canada. I should have did what you did, I could find those at any box store.
That's exactly why I didn't order them from them. When I need to fix something I want to be able to go grab the part and move on. They really should have designed that part a bit better. I can't see how another 1/8th of an inch clearance would have affected anything.
CNC sure does add a whole new complexity to the shop. I tend to obsess over getting my table saw to cut squarely. I can't imagine owning a CNC router. I could never leave the shop. I would be trapped in the searching for perfection loop. Again!
I figure when it comes to wood, if I’m 1 or 2 thou out over what amounts to a 24 inch span I’m not going to complain. Wood is going to move more than that if it rains tomorrow.
Just watched the video. You didn’t mention adding anti seize to the new bolts. It’s extremely important to add anti seize when using stainless steel hardware.
I didn’t. I’ll have to do that. I didn’t know it was important.
Narration is better. Also, those scalloped surfaces can also be caused by side to side misalignment, not just front to back misalignment.
Good tip. Thank you.
Are you sure the stainless is harder than most steel bolts?
Apparently I was misinformed. Stainless is not as hard as steel. However the larger head is harder to strip out than the pathetic little ones they have stock. Also these are locally available to me. The OEM ones weren’t and were more expensive.
Your videos are great and I agree some matching ome bolts are hard to find. I liked your replacement.
Good job on that my friend
Thanks. I should have sent you here before you assembled yours 😂
I don't get it. Been doing this stuff for over 60 years and I cannot understand how you can machine your table flat using a spindle that is mounted to a not very rigid axis that is mounted to a table that is not very flat. Now when you tram the table I think you are just checking how closely the spindle followed the not flat table? please help!
@@joen2816 flat enough for woodworking is a lot different than flat enough for machining
@@Hatchmade OK. So what is flat enough for woodworking? Just asking.
I have a feeling that's why my onefinity came with such small screws to hold it down.
I think I know what to do I will try it it and let you know.
I really like this machine and I want it to be right.
It is a common misconception that stainless steel bolts are harder. Sorry to break the news to you but low profile(short head) alloy steel 1/4-20 have a tensile strength of 140,000 psi whereas stainless steel of the same size and configuration is half that, 70,000 psi. The more you know🌠
I did a bit of looking and it turns out you’re probably right. However for you hardness and tensile strength, while typically correlated, are not the same thing. The more you know.
you dont use shims they have adjustments
Where? I didn’t see them and every video I watched showed them shimming it.
@@Hatchmade n each side there are bolts front and rear of each tube. go to the onefinity forum thees detaled info there to help you. they are very touchy so adjust them while you abserve your dial indicator. and i meen very touchy lol
@@Hatchmade yeah i made that same mistake. lol
why not use the front,rear tramming bolts instead of using shims? Thats one of the reasons I bought a onefinity. Seems like nobody on youtube knows this!
Because onefinity does a terrible job of pointing that out to people. I wasn’t aware that that was a possibility until after I had done this and I looked multiple times on their website and on google and everything I saw said you had to shim it like every other machine.
"Trammeling".
Potato tomato
Your video today fixed a 15 thousandth variation. Mine was using a socket to stop 1/4 inche gouging using a screwdriver. Pretty much identical...