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Being in Arizona, the Meyers needs flood irrigation and not a drip system. Also, you should have gotten the improved meyers full size and not the dwarf. The non dwarf version is still a small tree.
I think you are right about the root stock prob. A c35 rootstock every citrus failure I've had was on that. I'm hoping to avoid that in the future now that I have only been buying citrus from Reed.
Thank you for the video. I have a Meyers lemon tree from Costco that is 5 years old and is about three feet high (it was 2 feet when I bought it) and it’s planted in clay soil. It will not grow. Every year it produces new leaves on the old branches but very little new growth in shoots. Not sure why it has not died yet. What is c35 rootstock and who is Reed? I would like to know where to buy a good lemon tree ....which type of lemon is fast growing and best for phoenix area. Thank you
@@stp7629 So C35 rootstock is a very common citron root stock that many nurseries use for their citrus trees. Reed is the owner of RSI growers here in the Phoenix area who uses a local root stock to graft his fruit trees onto. In our experience with lemon trees (we've had 3 different trees so far) the Eureka lemon is the most prolific. That will be our go to lemon on our new property. Sorry about your lemon tree, but I hope this answered your question!
Edge of Nowhere Farm thank you! Do you have a video about the proper height of planting citrus? I think I might have planted my lemon tree too deep. Thank you again.
I had the same problem this year, I have 2 washington navel, a mexican lime that did really well in the spring then started having problems. One of the washington never recover and looks like yours. I am waiting till it get a little cooler to do what you just did(thanks for the idea).The other washington is a little more healthier because it has afternoon shade but it is not also as healthy as it was last year. The 2 washington I got from costco but they are the only costco ones that ever did well. They been there for 6 years and the last 2 years, it has given me 30-50 oranges(they are dwarf or semi dwarf ). The Mexican lime was a gift from my dad 12 years ago so it is very sentimental to me. He got it in California at a nursery near him and it has always done really well. It gave me so much limes last year I had to pickle them because there were just too many. This year it gave a big bloom then boom started dying off. I baby it by giving it organic compost, tea, fertilizers, fish emulsion, the whole nine yards. I can see new leaves finally forming after last week cool down so I hope this new heat wave doesn't negate that. Thanks a ton for your information, I took your advice and have been buying as much from R&S growers as possible. The 2 tress I got from him so far have been excellent.
Hey Garry. Man, that's a bummer to hear about your trees. Especially your dad's tree. My dad and I had a special bond and fruit trees was something we both shared a passion for. Hope it pulls through
I have read that the Meyer lemon is more sun sensitive than other citrus, with the lack of a good root system in that one it didn’t have much of a chance in summer in AZ. The 7 new citrus I recently bought from Lowe’s for my privacy screen in Surprise are all C-35 rootstock. I will just be planting them in September. Fingers crossed, I couldn’t pass up cheap citrus trees! One is a Meyer lemon and I think I will find it an afternoon shade spot just to be safe :)
Hey Kandice! I'm wondering the same with the Meyer as well. We've had Eureka lemon before and they just thrived in the heat, so we assumed the same would go for this little guy. Definitely a good plan to give your new one a little shade to help it along!
Had the same problem with a citrus and found out the soil around the tree was too hard and it always suffered like you mentioned. Dug it out and replaced the soil with all organic and zero native and now it’s thriving, also the root flare sits 2” above ground level
Hey Rob. No doubt it was planted a little too deep, so may have had something to do with this one. Still thinking the root stock was an issue and as you say with your hard soil, if the root stock isn't able to deal with that you'll have problems. Gotta love that hard clay!
It seems that it was planted too deep. Every tree I have planted that deep in my type of soil which is clay, has died. But then again, you know your soil better than me. Thanks for the video, it's very informative.
Hey jaxxmelton. That's a definite possibility. The feedback we've received from a few people on this particular variety is it can be very finicky, so just that little bit of depth on the trunk could definitely have been a part of it.
I had a loquat that did the same thing. It had plenty of good soil, mulch and moisture. It was planted just slightly above ground level ( .5 inch). It did fine the first season and then we had some late cold snaps and I thought that was the issue, but when I dug it up there was no root growth. I think it was a weak rootstock that never thrived. Another loquat is doing fine 20 feet away and I've replanted another fruit tree in the same hole and it is fine. I'm in N Florida and when I plant we never mix anything in the planting hole. I learned the hard way not to do that. Instead we put compost and organic fertilizer on top and cover with arborist mulch. Because of the area we're in the organic matter breaks down quickly and if you mix it with our sandy soil it will break down and if in the hole it cause your rootstock to be below ground level. Also if you put organic matter and fertilizer in the hole the trees/bushes don't try to look for water and nutrients. It thinks as if it is still in a container and when our rains wash away all the nutrients over time it can't handle dry spells and even when you fertilize it just doesn't grow like it should. I've killed half a dozen trees/bushes doing this. It just doesn't work well in my lawn so I feed on top and about the only amendment I might add to a planting hole is a small amount of rock dust and possibly a 5% or less mixture of clay for plants that need a little more moisture at the root zone.
Hey Charles. It sounds like you have nearly the exact same experience we are finding here with our hard clay soils. We use no amendments when planting potted trees to encourage outward growth and fertilize above ground to let the nutrients make their way into the soil to encourage root growth outward. 2 radically different soils and the same process works! Thanks for sharing your experience with that sandy soil. We have folks ask us all the time for suggestions and now we can be confident it will work for them as well.
Oh, oh... mine looks just like yours! My wife keeps saying it's gone dormant. (I bet she touched it when I wasn't looking) Seriously? My failures outnumber my successes about 10 to 1. Thanks for a good investigative -
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm you sound familiar with it. It was gorgeous thru spring - grew to 3'x3' & 3' high but not well suited to full sun, eh? Bees & hummingbirds nonstop. Prone to total devastation by caterpillars too. Sad.
part 3 : Based on inspection, I will leave out bug/fungus. The lack of root system, shows probably “root” of the problem. After the final dormancy period and push, the tree “on top” was too much to handle for the lack of bottom. The key with most plants is the proper balance of what’s happening with your plant on top AND on bottom
That's for sure. As many times as we've killed a tree you'd think we were past that by now, but this definitely won't be the last for sure. Now we just get to share them with everyone!
That's interesting to hear. I think we've decided to go back to the Eureka lemon for our lemon variety of choice. I'm not 100% sure that's the issue, but we have another Lowe's citrus tree right next to where this one was and it's doing fine. Hmm is right...
So sorry that you lost your tree. I tried saving one of my orange trees which was a great tree for many years but I think between grubs eating it's roots and maybe some other environmental issues it died and I cut it down. Now my Mexican lime tree also seems to be going out of the picture. I think it's time to buy some new trees from RSI this October. I would dig out a few feet from the root ball to see if grubs or other insects were eating the younger roots.
Hope you weathered this brutal summer ok. If that lemon was from HD then probably C35 right? Here in Tucson I havent seen any other rootstock used, even at the local reputable nurseries (mesquite valley, etc). You must have a number of C35 citrus... how are they doing or are they all underperforming for you?
I'm confident it was probably C35 as well. I don't really see much else from the big box nurseries. RSI Growers, which is where we are buying the majority of our trees, including citrus for the new farm has traditionally used Sour Orange (he was using Seville, but is switching starting this year). His citrus trees have done AMAZING compared to the rest, but the Meyer was the only tree we actually lost.
Just wondering by for the tree you have planted up front, do you only water in the little circle area? I am wondering because I was thinking of not expanding the watering well of my mulberry tree past the 4 feet circle I recently expanded it too. Would like to know how this would affect the feeder roots, if the feeder roots would grow past the watering well
Hey Anh. That lemon tree is the only tree on the property that we water like that. We had a Eureka lemon at our old house that did pretty well with a similar watering configuration that did fair for the first few years. We did eventually move the water to the drip line and it did produce more consistently. That being said, citrus and mulberry trees have VERY aggressive roots, so you may be able to get away with that on your mulberry tree. Will there be anything else around it that it can find water from?
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm The only thing in my backyard near it is a orange tree, but it is a good 10 feet away. So unless the roots go under our back wall and steal some water from my neighbor's plants, I guess I will have to figure something out. Thx for your reply
@@AnhNguyen-pf6wt Sure thing. Oh and watch that Mulberry tree's roots if it's near a wall. They're very aggressive and I've heard of people having their home foundations affected by mulberry roots.
Part 2 : So now you planted in the same spot. Maybe previous plant already took up direct nutrients or replanting in same spot. has an adverse affect like what tomatoes do. Next: maybe soil used isn’t quite the best for a already weakened plant. Could have used actual cactus/citrus soil or made your own with vermiculite, perlite, sand and bit of peat moss. Also, the soil in that area seemed quite packed and not sandy/loomy and easily moves through your hand like sand. Maybe, didn’t dig your hole for the lemon plant 2-3x larger that is required. The already weak roots didn’t have the energy to branch out their roots. Also, base root was too deep in the ground. Should have been up a bit higher. Also, maybe when watering, the water sat, dripped more to the center since the root ball/stem/root graft union was not level with the ground but was planted too deep - which caused water to collect/sit in the center. Also has the tendency to rot the mainbranch when planted too deep. How long was your lemon tree out of the ground before it was re planted??? Could you have soaked it in water until you were ready to plant into ground? Also, did you sprinkle root powder on the root to promote good root development? Next, the hole you dug for the re plant lemon tree, was it 2/3x the size of the root ball? Was the soil the best you could have provided? Did you mix in a citrus specific fertilizer to jump start the plant to its new home? Did you transplant on a cool day, preferably evening or early morning on a potentially cool day
Try planting Lisbon Lemons. The improved Portuguese could be planted deeper, plus what seeds you get, could be planted ( just as an experiment !)The strain is originally from a warmer climate and is popular in Australia. ( my country). Great video too, very honest.
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm I would say to mulch 'em high with straw and they would be fine. I've seen them growing all over Australia in and out of frost zones. Def no big mulch over the mature trees. It's the most grown variety in Australia, so that covers alot of climate zones ! Hope that helps. Love your channel, as I live out in the desert, so similar heat.
most people stated root stock/grafting issues from the beginning, but I think a combination of many things. Usually 1 issue isn’t enough to kill a tree, but a bunch together is. So, starting at the beginning- lets say Home Depot brand through lets say “Online Orchards” - each area sub contracts with Home Depot for that particular region to re sale treelings. Lets say most resellers sell tgeir less desirable trees to Home Depot and sell their better trees at retail prices to their savye customers. So, already bought maybe a poor tree. And usually taken care less from transport to HD. Next - maybe planting in the same spot is not advisable. Yes, that isn’t always the case, but why take that chance. That is why I don’t plant in the same spot back 2 back years. Sane as never using the same potting soil twice for say things like tomatoes.
Hey Friedrich. If you're here in AZ it may just be the extreme weather we've had this year. While we still think the root stocks probably were a factor in losing this one it may also have just been this particular tree. Are you getting leaf curl and some brown tips or are you seeing sections of the tree dying back?
I think the tree just did not like the transplant, some trees are fuzzy like that, I’ve transplanted trees also and had results like that, some did good others just hated it and dried up , I think it has to do with the conditions and nutrition or the amount of energy the tree had stored up prior to the move , in my opinion it’s always good to really water and feed a tree at least a couple of months prior to transplant day but that’s just my opinion there could of been some unknown variable in there that doomed it , so sorry for the loss man but hey now you have space for another tree!! 😬👌
I think you're definitely on to something there. Conditions are always different and any little thing can cause them to go South even from the beginning. With the new property and all the planting we have to do there we're trying to learn as much as we can so we can minimize the carnage!
Could it be replant syndrome? I was told that trees of the same family shouldn't be replanted in the same spot unless you really remove all the previous roots which could be hard to do!
Ive bought a Lime tree from Costco about 3.5 years ago and it was 4ft tall. every year i prune my tree( only the dead brown branches ) now my Lime tree is 2ft tall..Not joking.....
Hey Bin. Man, that's frustrating! We have 2 trees we bought from Costco. One is near dead and not growing and the other is doing ok. Definitely learned our lesson there, but it's a shame because usually Costco brings in great products.
I just think your lemon was a lemon !!! :D seriously, I'd say you were watering too wide-out assuming the roots were at the drip line (which I know theyré meant to be but ....) and so it died of thirst. Citrus generally don't mind being put to a bit of a wilt, but I reckon this one (in its warped lemon-mind) decided to be precious, chucked a tantrum and died out of spite to teach you a lesson . Bad, bad lemon.
Ha, LOL! That's a very real possibility with this little guy. We assumed it was faring better as the rest of the trees generally do by this age. Bad, bad lemon indeed!!
Hey Duane, I saw this video and thought of you, it mentions a citrus rootstock that does well in all sorts of extreme climates, cheers :) ua-cam.com/video/jkAKY0Gic3E/v-deo.html @@EdgeofNowhereFarm
Good one. I always learn more from my failures than the other way. Glad you filmed this!
Hey Jim. So true and we have had plenty of failures with plenty yet to come I'm sure!
Being in Arizona, the Meyers needs flood irrigation and not a drip system. Also, you should have gotten the improved meyers full size and not the dwarf. The non dwarf version is still a small tree.
Thanks for the informative video 👍👍👍
Sure thing Big Lou. Glad you found it informative!
I think you are right about the root stock prob. A c35 rootstock every citrus failure I've had was on that. I'm hoping to avoid that in the future now that I have only been buying citrus from Reed.
Yeah, Reed is our go to for citrus on the new property for the same reason.
Reed's awesome!
Thank you for the video. I have a Meyers lemon tree from Costco that is 5 years old and is about three feet high (it was 2 feet when I bought it) and it’s planted in clay soil. It will not grow. Every year it produces new leaves on the old branches but very little new growth in shoots. Not sure why it has not died yet.
What is c35 rootstock and who is Reed? I would like to know where to buy a good lemon tree ....which type of lemon is fast growing and best for phoenix area.
Thank you
@@stp7629 So C35 rootstock is a very common citron root stock that many nurseries use for their citrus trees. Reed is the owner of RSI growers here in the Phoenix area who uses a local root stock to graft his fruit trees onto. In our experience with lemon trees (we've had 3 different trees so far) the Eureka lemon is the most prolific. That will be our go to lemon on our new property. Sorry about your lemon tree, but I hope this answered your question!
Edge of Nowhere Farm thank you! Do you have a video about the proper height of planting citrus? I think I might have planted my lemon tree too deep. Thank you again.
I had the same problem this year, I have 2 washington navel, a mexican lime that did really well in the spring then started having problems. One of the washington never recover and looks like yours. I am waiting till it get a little cooler to do what you just did(thanks for the idea).The other washington is a little more healthier because it has afternoon shade but it is not also as healthy as it was last year. The 2 washington I got from costco but they are the only costco ones that ever did well. They been there for 6 years and the last 2 years, it has given me 30-50 oranges(they are dwarf or semi dwarf ). The Mexican lime was a gift from my dad 12 years ago so it is very sentimental to me. He got it in California at a nursery near him and it has always done really well. It gave me so much limes last year I had to pickle them because there were just too many. This year it gave a big bloom then boom started dying off. I baby it by giving it organic compost, tea, fertilizers, fish emulsion, the whole nine yards. I can see new leaves finally forming after last week cool down so I hope this new heat wave doesn't negate that. Thanks a ton for your information, I took your advice and have been buying as much from R&S growers as possible. The 2 tress I got from him so far have been excellent.
Hey Garry. Man, that's a bummer to hear about your trees. Especially your dad's tree. My dad and I had a special bond and fruit trees was something we both shared a passion for. Hope it pulls through
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm Thankyou so much. :)
I have read that the Meyer lemon is more sun sensitive than other citrus, with the lack of a good root system in that one it didn’t have much of a chance in summer in AZ.
The 7 new citrus I recently bought from Lowe’s for my privacy screen in Surprise are all C-35 rootstock. I will just be planting them in September. Fingers crossed, I couldn’t pass up cheap citrus trees! One is a Meyer lemon and I think I will find it an afternoon shade spot just to be safe :)
Hey Kandice! I'm wondering the same with the Meyer as well. We've had Eureka lemon before and they just thrived in the heat, so we assumed the same would go for this little guy. Definitely a good plan to give your new one a little shade to help it along!
Had the same problem with a citrus and found out the soil around the tree was too hard and it always suffered like you mentioned. Dug it out and replaced the soil with all organic and zero native and now it’s thriving, also the root flare sits 2” above ground level
Hey Rob. No doubt it was planted a little too deep, so may have had something to do with this one. Still thinking the root stock was an issue and as you say with your hard soil, if the root stock isn't able to deal with that you'll have problems. Gotta love that hard clay!
It seems that it was planted too deep. Every tree I have planted that deep in my type of soil which is clay, has died. But then again, you know your soil better than me. Thanks for the video, it's very informative.
Hey jaxxmelton. That's a definite possibility. The feedback we've received from a few people on this particular variety is it can be very finicky, so just that little bit of depth on the trunk could definitely have been a part of it.
I had a loquat that did the same thing. It had plenty of good soil, mulch and moisture. It was planted just slightly above ground level ( .5 inch). It did fine the first season and then we had some late cold snaps and I thought that was the issue, but when I dug it up there was no root growth. I think it was a weak rootstock that never thrived. Another loquat is doing fine 20 feet away and I've replanted another fruit tree in the same hole and it is fine.
I'm in N Florida and when I plant we never mix anything in the planting hole. I learned the hard way not to do that. Instead we put compost and organic fertilizer on top and cover with arborist mulch. Because of the area we're in the organic matter breaks down quickly and if you mix it with our sandy soil it will break down and if in the hole it cause your rootstock to be below ground level. Also if you put organic matter and fertilizer in the hole the trees/bushes don't try to look for water and nutrients. It thinks as if it is still in a container and when our rains wash away all the nutrients over time it can't handle dry spells and even when you fertilize it just doesn't grow like it should. I've killed half a dozen trees/bushes doing this. It just doesn't work well in my lawn so I feed on top and about the only amendment I might add to a planting hole is a small amount of rock dust and possibly a 5% or less mixture of clay for plants that need a little more moisture at the root zone.
Hey Charles. It sounds like you have nearly the exact same experience we are finding here with our hard clay soils. We use no amendments when planting potted trees to encourage outward growth and fertilize above ground to let the nutrients make their way into the soil to encourage root growth outward. 2 radically different soils and the same process works! Thanks for sharing your experience with that sandy soil. We have folks ask us all the time for suggestions and now we can be confident it will work for them as well.
Oh, oh... mine looks just like yours!
My wife keeps saying it's gone dormant.
(I bet she touched it when I wasn't looking)
Seriously? My failures outnumber my successes about 10 to 1.
Thanks for a good investigative -
Hey T Ago. Yeah, citrus trees don't go dormant, so if yours looks like this she's a goner. Sorry man.
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm
It's gone. ( the mrs. hasn't noticed)
(she's been too busy trying to revive a perpetually dormant mystic spire salvia...) 😵
@@tago8039 oh man, that's a bummer. Had to pull up mystic spire salvia. Pretty cool looking...if it's not "dormant".
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm you sound familiar with it.
It was gorgeous thru spring - grew to 3'x3' & 3' high but not well suited to full sun, eh?
Bees & hummingbirds nonstop.
Prone to total devastation by caterpillars too. Sad.
part 3 : Based on inspection, I will leave out bug/fungus. The lack of root system, shows probably “root” of the problem. After the final dormancy period and push, the tree “on top” was too much to handle for the lack of bottom. The key with most plants is the proper balance of what’s happening with your plant on top AND on bottom
Todd, I think you nailed it with your assessment. Without a solid root system the tree was destined to fail.
We all have gardening failures sometimes!
That's for sure. As many times as we've killed a tree you'd think we were past that by now, but this definitely won't be the last for sure. Now we just get to share them with everyone!
hmmm, I had the same issue. My meyer lemon, same size, died. Mine was the same size and 3 years old. I think I picked it up from lowes.
That's interesting to hear. I think we've decided to go back to the Eureka lemon for our lemon variety of choice. I'm not 100% sure that's the issue, but we have another Lowe's citrus tree right next to where this one was and it's doing fine. Hmm is right...
So sorry that you lost your tree. I tried saving one of my orange trees which was a great tree for many years but I think between grubs eating it's roots and maybe some other environmental issues it died and I cut it down. Now my Mexican lime tree also seems to be going out of the picture. I think it's time to buy some new trees from RSI this October. I would dig out a few feet from the root ball to see if grubs or other insects were eating the younger roots.
Hey Daniel, man that's just frustrating! Reed preaches root stocks all day long and I'm really starting to see why.
Hope you weathered this brutal summer ok. If that lemon was from HD then probably C35 right? Here in Tucson I havent seen any other rootstock used, even at the local reputable nurseries (mesquite valley, etc). You must have a number of C35 citrus... how are they doing or are they all underperforming for you?
I'm confident it was probably C35 as well. I don't really see much else from the big box nurseries. RSI Growers, which is where we are buying the majority of our trees, including citrus for the new farm has traditionally used Sour Orange (he was using Seville, but is switching starting this year). His citrus trees have done AMAZING compared to the rest, but the Meyer was the only tree we actually lost.
Just wondering by for the tree you have planted up front, do you only water in the little circle area? I am wondering because I was thinking of not expanding the watering well of my mulberry tree past the 4 feet circle I recently expanded it too. Would like to know how this would affect the feeder roots, if the feeder roots would grow past the watering well
Hey Anh. That lemon tree is the only tree on the property that we water like that. We had a Eureka lemon at our old house that did pretty well with a similar watering configuration that did fair for the first few years. We did eventually move the water to the drip line and it did produce more consistently. That being said, citrus and mulberry trees have VERY aggressive roots, so you may be able to get away with that on your mulberry tree. Will there be anything else around it that it can find water from?
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm The only thing in my backyard near it is a orange tree, but it is a good 10 feet away. So unless the roots go under our back wall and steal some water from my neighbor's plants, I guess I will have to figure something out. Thx for your reply
@@AnhNguyen-pf6wt Sure thing. Oh and watch that Mulberry tree's roots if it's near a wall. They're very aggressive and I've heard of people having their home foundations affected by mulberry roots.
Part 2 : So now you planted in the same spot. Maybe previous plant already took up direct nutrients or replanting in same spot. has an adverse affect like what tomatoes do. Next: maybe soil used isn’t quite the best for a already weakened plant. Could have used actual cactus/citrus soil or made your own with vermiculite, perlite, sand and bit of peat moss. Also, the soil in that area seemed quite packed and not sandy/loomy and easily moves through your hand like sand. Maybe, didn’t dig your hole for the lemon plant 2-3x larger that is required. The already weak roots didn’t have the energy to branch out their roots. Also, base root was too deep in the ground. Should have been up a bit higher. Also, maybe when watering, the water sat, dripped more to the center since the root ball/stem/root graft union was not level with the ground but was planted too deep - which caused water to collect/sit in the center. Also has the tendency to rot the mainbranch when planted too deep. How long was your lemon tree out of the ground before it was re planted??? Could you have soaked it in water until you were ready to plant into ground? Also, did you sprinkle root powder on the root to promote good root development? Next, the hole you dug for the re plant lemon tree, was it 2/3x the size of the root ball? Was the soil the best you could have provided? Did you mix in a citrus specific fertilizer to jump start the plant to its new home? Did you transplant on a cool day, preferably evening or early morning on a potentially cool day
Good suggestions again.
Try planting Lisbon Lemons. The improved Portuguese could be planted deeper, plus what seeds you get, could be planted ( just as an experiment !)The strain is originally from a warmer climate and is popular in Australia. ( my country). Great video too, very honest.
Hey Sundancer. I've heard of Lisbon Lemons before. Do you know how they do with frost?
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm I would say to mulch 'em high with straw and they would be fine. I've seen them growing all over Australia in and out of frost zones. Def no big mulch over the mature trees. It's the most grown variety in Australia, so that covers alot of climate zones ! Hope that helps. Love your channel, as I live out in the desert, so similar heat.
@@sundancer442 Ok, that makes sense. Glad you're enjoying the content and finding it useful!
most people stated root stock/grafting issues from the beginning, but I think a combination of many things. Usually 1 issue isn’t enough to kill a tree, but a bunch together is. So, starting at the beginning- lets say Home Depot brand through lets say “Online Orchards” - each area sub contracts with Home Depot for that particular region to re sale treelings. Lets say most resellers sell tgeir less desirable trees to Home Depot and sell their better trees at retail prices to their savye customers. So, already bought maybe a poor tree. And usually taken care less from transport to HD. Next - maybe planting in the same spot is not advisable. Yes, that isn’t always the case, but why take that chance. That is why I don’t plant in the same spot back 2 back years. Sane as never using the same potting soil twice for say things like tomatoes.
Good notes Todd.
I've got a Meyer lemon and a lime tree from there and they're both just tired looking
Hey Friedrich. If you're here in AZ it may just be the extreme weather we've had this year. While we still think the root stocks probably were a factor in losing this one it may also have just been this particular tree. Are you getting leaf curl and some brown tips or are you seeing sections of the tree dying back?
I think the tree just did not like the transplant, some trees are fuzzy like that, I’ve transplanted trees also and had results like that, some did good others just hated it and dried up , I think it has to do with the conditions and nutrition or the amount of energy the tree had stored up prior to the move , in my opinion it’s always good to really water and feed a tree at least a couple of months prior to transplant day but that’s just my opinion there could of been some unknown variable in there that doomed it , so sorry for the loss man but hey now you have space for another tree!! 😬👌
I think you're definitely on to something there. Conditions are always different and any little thing can cause them to go South even from the beginning. With the new property and all the planting we have to do there we're trying to learn as much as we can so we can minimize the carnage!
Could it be replant syndrome? I was told that trees of the same family shouldn't be replanted in the same spot unless you really remove all the previous roots which could be hard to do!
Hmm, that's a great question. I suppose that could be the case as it was another citrus tree in this spot!
Ive bought a Lime tree from Costco about 3.5 years ago and it was 4ft tall. every year i prune my tree( only the dead brown branches ) now my Lime tree is 2ft tall..Not joking.....
Hey Bin. Man, that's frustrating! We have 2 trees we bought from Costco. One is near dead and not growing and the other is doing ok. Definitely learned our lesson there, but it's a shame because usually Costco brings in great products.
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm They usually do.. but always.lol
I just think your lemon was a lemon !!!
:D
seriously, I'd say you were watering too wide-out assuming the roots were at the drip line (which I know theyré meant to be but ....) and so it died of thirst. Citrus generally don't mind being put to a bit of a wilt, but I reckon this one (in its warped lemon-mind) decided to be precious, chucked a tantrum and died out of spite to teach you a lesson . Bad, bad lemon.
Ha, LOL! That's a very real possibility with this little guy. We assumed it was faring better as the rest of the trees generally do by this age. Bad, bad lemon indeed!!
Hey Duane, I saw this video and thought of you, it mentions a citrus rootstock that does well in all sorts of extreme climates, cheers :) ua-cam.com/video/jkAKY0Gic3E/v-deo.html @@EdgeofNowhereFarm
I had exactly similar situation because I over-fertilize my lemon tree. Maybe your tree over-fertilized by mistake.
Hey daar1111, you know that's a possibility because we pile chicken manure not too far from here when we clean out the coop. Hmm...