You have to build the right deck for Exodia to work. I've actually created an unstoppable deck and here are the cards I use: 1x Exodia the Forbidden One 1x Left Leg of the Forbidden One 1x Right Leg of the Forbidden One 1x Left Arm of the Forbidden One 1x Right Arm of the Forbidden One 35x Pot of Greed Suffice to say, my success with this deck has been unparalleled.
Well, just play Reinforcement of the Army or something like that. You search your deck for a card, and, while you are searching, you take your deck in your hand, therefore all cards in there are in your hand. So, if all Exodia pieces are in your deck you imediately win.
+Andrei Valdez Why yes, it is. I was continuing the dialog from the video 4:14. I was going along with the joke. I guess you're the one who can't see sarcasm.
But Doug. I play an Exodia deck with my friends. And I always win 100% half the time. Which is extra sad coz I only play with one friend and her name is my sister and she's 8 years old. Oh, I took it to a local tournament and got 15th place. It's an eight person tournament.
Casual Potato that is quite impressive my friend. Not everyone can beat their 8-year old sibling. I lost to my younger brother when he was 8 because I played the game for him whenever we dueled
@@sirize9971 there are better chances if you dont follow banlists and us 3 of each, also if you originally put them together as shuffling by hand is not totally random, even if honest
what if you play exodia in a diffrent way? i play on one of the worst places for an exodia player to exist dueling nexus but i won more often than not i use like 80 diffrent versions of exodia the idea is no matter what i draw i have a way to win be it by attacking with exodia necross or sending the pices to the grave with exodious the ultamit forbidon lord or using OBLITORATE!!! to destroy my opponents monsters and strenthinging my exodia incarnent
Final countdown is 20 turns... it literally says it on the card. Unless you are only counting YOUR turns but then you are ignoring half the turns in a match which is... well i mean you are ignoring half the match which you just cant do
Pretty much. Exodia isn't a bad card by any means, it is in fact the best card with a built in win condition since what is required for this win condition is something that you want anyway and that is to draw. The problem with Exodia is that, if it were to become meta, that would be terrible for the game as a whole and anytime it starts to get some steam with a new consistent draw engine, this draw engine gets hit (or it benefits from an engine that is also degenerate elsewhere and is thus hit but it is the same thing regardless) All in all, Exodia isn't bad in the slightest, it is very very good, and that's why it doesn't see play, because it truly is the forbidden one (or in this case I'd use a direct translation of the French localisation which I find very fitting, it is Exodia the Damned/the Accursed, because it is too good and has to be sealed away and everything that touches it has to be as well, this is his curse)
Pretty much. I faced one back in the day on YGOPro at the time current banlist and I never got a turn because they emptied their deck to get Exodia. Today half that deck is limited or banned.
I love my Exodia deck to death, but it's a third rate deck for fourth rate duelists. I mainly use it for testing out new decks my friends are building because it has so much stall and destruction in it that it's a good test for poking holes in people's strategies for them to tune out of the deck.
If anyone's still confused about the trap card FTK that beats out Exodia that's mentioned at the end of the video, here's how it works. 1. Use the draw spell Upstart Goblin to put your opponents LP to 9000 or more. 2. Use the draw spell Into the Void, that discards your hand in the End Phase. 3. After hitting a dead end on your draw streak, set 3 cards and pass turn. Your hand will be discarded. 4. Play Wall of Revealing Light - pay 7000. Chain Magical Explosion. Chain Life Equalizer. Chain resolves: opponent has 3000 LP, then takes over 4000 damage from Magical Explosion as you're running 20-30 Spell Cards. You win the game. If you take first turn, your opponent can't even use Quick Play Spells at the start of their turn to destroy your backrow - if they do, you just chain your cards in response. There's no way to stop the combo after the 3 cards are set and the above conditions are met.
That doesn’t work cause the second exodia is played, the duel would be over it’s like an instant win. you would need to prevent the player to get all 5 pieces into the hand.
Also, Exodia transcends not only Yugioh but card games in general. I see a lot of other games ( MOBAS for instance ) where they get a perfect team comp and the casters will say " they have the Exodia comp " It's really charming.
To those who are interested, the chances of winning before the game begins, is 0.00000633% chance for your opening hand to be an instant win. And that's with 40 cards in your deck.
@Kenny Herndon - It's a terribly designed game, but that's half the fun of it. Nothing makes sense, everything is weird, balance is non-existant, but the game just runs with it, and it makes it hilarious.
I really like your series "Why Nobody Plays", but here is an interesting idea: Do a series where you talk about what it would take for the cards you talk about in this series to be viable in a competitive format.
Making an instant win condition consistent would probably screw up the game, to be honest. You better hope your opponent with the Exodia deck doesn't go first.
In the case of Exodia that's simple : unban/unrestrict the big draw cards (Pot of Greed, Graceful, Disc Commander, Destiny Draw etc) Is it a good idea ? No, absolutely. If Exodia becomes meta then it becomes a very bad meta as a consistent Exodia deck is the best deck imaginable and you'd have no reason not to play it and the game would just become FTK after FTK. Exodia isn't a "good" competitive card because it is too good to be made consistent and it is the driving force behind a lot of the bans even if not the main one, it is sort of the Pandora's Box of the game, if you let too many good draw cards in then it will become too consistent and wreck the meta.
@@sephikong8323 Not even just instant victory cards, cards that let you draw with little to no cost make it really easy to set up long chains and win that way. If there was a card that says "Draw 2 cards but you cannot activate any card effects that state you win the duel", it would still probably be way too OP.
@@VGamingJunkieVT Draw cards are op for a different reason though. They are OP because they are splashable, there is not a single deck where you would not want to play Graceful Charity or Pot of Greed since they have no drawbacks (I mean Graceful Charity had a drawback at first ....... except that now it would almost be the best effect of the card for certain decks), and this theoretical card's only drawback would only be so for Exodia deck, so everyone else would play it. What makes Exodia OP is that it's win condition is tied to this same thing that you want to do anyway : draw. Whereas you can slap any draw card without drawbacks into any deck, Exodia is the best card to take advantage of said cards as you don't require more to win the duel, you don't have to invest those ressources you draw into field control, you just need to use them to draw more and thin your deck for that win. Basically : drawing cards are broken because "why would I not play them ?" Whereas Exodia is broken because "if I have a draw engine that can trim my deck, why would I play anything else than Exodia ?". Both are degenerate and stem from the fact that cards are the only ressource in the game tbh
Why are you reading this ? True, and misunderstandings tend to come from people who play other card games where you need to spend resources to make any moves. With Yugioh, you can play cards all you want and the only limit is one normal summon per turn.
I think Exodia more hilarious in a mirror match there is an astronomical statistically pretty much impossible zero turn kill if both players draw all Exodia pieces in their starting hand.
Because it's horrifically inconsistent and all the draw cards that *could* make it less so are either limited or banned. God, I wish the Heart of the Underdog strat was feasible tho. That one's hilarious.
@@phantomnite Only because the are better ways to annihilate your opponent, namely VFD, Rhongo and IO. It's telling enough Six Sams favors Rhongomyniad turbo instead of the literal hundreds of consistent FTK combos they have at their disposal.
@@phantomnite casual play and the video games allow for ftk but yugioh continues to change and update ban lists so its become impossible to win on deck building skills but the tcg has become all about the "new meta cards" this would be why i quit the tcg. i shouldnt have to read an encyclopedia of banned cards to build a tournament compliant deck, so i dont have to build two versions of the same deck
@@zeroph3849 it's not that hard to read dude, you're just complaining over nothing there. It's a tournament, and no one wants to play against an unfair instawin deck, it's just not fun. Sure Exodia is easier to get past but ftks still arnt fun.
@@joanaguayoplanell4912 doesnt negate my point though, and even when those kinds of cards didnt exist, Exodia still wasnt played. Exodia isnt consistent enough
I had a great lesson with my math class where we watched this episode for fun and then I asked my students what the probability is of drawing all 5 cards in your opening hand since it fits right in with probability where you don’t replace your sample.
Simply put Exodia, Dark Magician, Blue Eyes White Dragon and other cards from the original first series are the OG pioneers of the game. As the game evolved, they became useless, but to keep them in use, like he said, they tend to be the stepping stones of powerful XYZ and Synchro cards.On a similar scale...The God Cards. Back then, there was so much hype with them, but eventually people began to realize, they actually suck compared to many fusion synchro and XYZ cards, but like I said, they are the OGs of the game and like all OGs, they still get their mad respects.
Saw him get summoned in a card shop tournament called wild wolf once in Illinois. As a 10 year old kid it was one of the coolest things ever like watching a straight royal flush lol.
i remember taking my exodia deck to a local tournament at some point, way back, then the guy who ran the tournament made a deck specifically just to discard my hand and such to specifically counter exodia, that was quite fun while it lasted (i didnt actually have much success with it, it was just what i had so i used it and had fun with it) I played more of a stall deck rather than a superdraw
I think that [Motion wave cannon] combined with [Swords of Revealing Light] is a very easy win condition. Especcially if you have cards that can prevent your opponent from destroying your spell cards so that you dont have to reset the MWC. After you place the Motion Wave Cannon, it begins powering up, when you activate it it deals how many turns has passed since you placed it times 1000. If you have multiple motion wave cannons that you can place them at the same time and can win in 4 or 3 turns. Only way of countering the mwc is by destroying it, it has no requirements for staying on the field. Your opponent probably doesnt have a lot of spell card destroyers, so if you place one then survive for 8 turns, you win. Hell, add Messenger of Peace(?) into the mix and altough it deals 100 damage to you at the start of your turns, it makes it so that monsters with 1500 or higher ATK cant attack. Place a monster with 1500 atk or def and you are safe from battle damage.
@@Dzeeff thanks I guess? I started playing again like... 2 months ago. I havent played for more than 6 years which were mostly just casual plays. With the pc games though, I havent been able to counter the WMC that much since my cards were all random from booster packs and had like... 2 spell destroyers. I only won against that AI because it kept destroying its spell cards to (re)summon monsters that I could destroy via brute force or card effects. But I have to ask, why does it fail? It feels like(and in my experience) is just a really easy way to do a lot of damage to your opponent. Definitely more reliable than Exodia too. (Edit: also thanks for replying, its nice to see a content creator respond in comments)
The basic reason Wave Motion Cannon has never been good is that it just sits there and does nothing. It takes severeal turns to do significant damage so by the time it's decent your opponent will have either already won or they'll have drawn a spell destruction card
@@Dzeeff thanks for explaining it to me, though I suppose if you were to have other spell cards that are quite effective the WMC could be a distraction to keep those spell cards on the field, or to keep the opponent from destroying the WMC which could deal like 4000 damage which is not that bad. Cards like burden of the mighty or other continious spell cards that give the contoller a high advantage could be protected this way I think. Thus while WMC wont be able to do much as it will be hit by the spell destruction card before it can deal damage close to 8000, it can act as a sort of a scare tactic I guess?
Because no one realizes how good it would be with 3 Magic Cylinders and of course we don't know what Magic Cylinder does, since it is equal to Pot of Greed.
It's really cool how this game looks at the higher up levels. As someone who's only ever played casual, it's making me rethink the way I look at YGO, and card games in general.
I like the idea of hitting all 5 cards in your opening hand in a live tournament, it’s possible you just need to remember someone wins the lottery 100% of the time the potential it’s you is just ( 1:population of country )
I always played and loved decks like this, but I always felt like Empty Jar was by far more realistic. It actively hinders and harasses the opponent, I almost never find myself scoping in response to a single move unless it's a REALLY good movie at a REALLY bad time. More importantly, it psychology messes with players as they second guess every play they make.
What about other Exodia cards like Necros, Ultimate Forbidden Lord, Legendary Exodia Incarnate and the few other spell / trap card supports? Was there any potential viable-ness or was Exodia always destined to be for casual play?
Incarnate is nice actually but JUST being a "towers" with on average 3000 ATK means he has no use because: 1. Metaltron 2. Towers himself 3. Ultimate falcon
As someone who watched a small amount of the anime and collected cards only for about 1 month, this was a really interesting video. You clearly aren't some joe schmoe talking about yugioh, you have a huge knowledge pool to pull from to make well reasoned points understandable by anyone. Great job
I think it would have been good to talk about the bunch of cards that are ban because of Exodia and that even then it is still a just a fun deck that fails on the competitive level
There are no cards that are banned because of exodia. Cards like pot of greed, graceful charity, painful choice, and pot of avarice are all banned because of other much more powerful decks. Usually darkworlds. Darkworlds caused the banning of quite a lot of cards. as did dragon rulers.
@@GeneralNickles cards like Dagger Elma or Primal Seed have been ban because loops and Exodia usually exploits those loops, sure any card draw is good for Exodia but I meant mostly those examples
@@DAK84 Elma is banned because of the infinite gearfreid loop with spell absorbsion. Has nothing to do with exodia. It CAN be exploited by exodia, but so hard to set up that it really doesn't matter. And primal seed isn't banned. Don't even know what you're talking about with that one.
Primal Seed was limited (sorry tho it had been ban) because again loops that is what I tried to explain before lots of cards were banned on the early days because of loops or interactions and Exodia just exploit them ua-cam.com/video/FxdSasDQTwo/v-deo.html Galactic God explains it better I suggest to see it
When I played YGO (from the time it first aired in the US to 2015), I only managed to win by playing Exodia once. Mind you, I only got the Exodia cards in 2009, but I only had them in my deck as filler, basically would "accidentally" show my opponent my hand partially if I had two or three of the pieces to scare them. I somehow managed to draw all five Exodia cards on the opening draw when I was playing with a friend. Absolutely sheer luck and not likely to ever occur again. It was hilarious, though.
I had a Dueling Network friend back in 2012, we devised an lockdown type of Exodia deck. the main play style was, activate cards like Skill Drain, Imperial Custom & Metal Reflect Slime backed by two Dark Bribes or two Fake Traps (Back in 2012, we also run cards likes Upstart Goblin & One Day of Peace @ 3) or alternate combo switch out Reflect Slime with Scrubbed Raid, other defensive cards that were used are Prohibtion, Nimble Momonga, Battle Fader/Swift Scarecrow and as for draw cards, besides the Upstart & Peace we relied with Legacy of Yata Garasu, Reckless Greed, Card Car D, Allure of Darkness, Emissary of the Afterlife, Pot of Duality. The main idea was, with those cards on board, we basically lockdown all possible options for the opposing player, they can't attack, no monster effs and negation to any sort of trap destruction/removal, while we draw to the pieces of Exodia with a somewhat strong draw engine. The funny thing about this deck was, it was quite effective against some meta decks back in the day. The Deck: (we strictly followed the "40" card deck but I'm gonna list all the cards that we used) Monsters: The Exodia Pieces Nimble Momonga x 3 Swift Scarecrow x 3 Battle Fader x 3 Card Car D x 3 Emissary of the Afterlife x 3 Spells: One Day of Peace x 3 Upstart Goblin x 3 Allure of Darkness x 2 Pot of Duality x 2 Prohibition x 3 Traps: (your bread and butter in this deck) Skill Drain x 3 Imperial Custom x 3 Metal Reflect Slime x 3 Scrubbed Raid x 3 Dark Bribe x 3 Fake Trap x 3 Reckless Greed x 3 Legacy of Yata Garasu x 3 Fast forward to 2021, the deck is now neutered in the TCG format (but somewhat playable in the OCG)
No offense, but I find it difficult to believe an exodia deck was even halfway decent back in 2012 when Wind-Up and Mermail handloops were running rampant in the meta.
@@NickersonGeneral I didn't say that it was stomping meta decks, I said it was effective against SOME meta decks. Dino Rabbit & Wind Ups were struggling against this deck but Dark Worlds can easily beat this while Mermails can be pain in the ass if you don't main cards like Prohibition and Fake Trap.
@@drsoe08 And I didn't say you said it was stomping the meta, but to even imply you made a deck that Wind-Ups and Dino Rabbit would "struggle" against is saying that it's more than halfway decent at the time, and I'm still finding it hard to believe. The moment wind-ups would dump exodia pieces in the grave, this deck is dead, and the only real counter you have is Skill Drain or Prohibition, both unreliable counters. Fake Trap can protect them, but at the cost if it being a giant brick. See, here's the thing. I wish I had a nickel every time I encountered someone who claimed their deck does well against the meta, and it's some egyptian god deck or sacred beasts or mill or exodia or anything that barely saw any meta play (but is really popular with casual players), and I have yet to see a single time I was proven wrong when I just assumed they were hyper inflating one or two times they got lucky against some meta strategy. I'm not saying you're lying, but you understand my skepticism right? If an Exodia lockdown deck was really that good against Dino Rabbit and Wind-Up back in 2012, then it's weird that no one thought to play it in major tournaments. That's literally the holy grail, an unexpected deck that reliably contends with 2 of the most played meta decks that no one saw coming and therefore struggles to side against.
The issue with an Exodia Deck is that is can be easily countered by cards that force you to discards in your hand so cards like Card Destruction and Morphing Jar when you have 3 or more exodia cards in your hand. when combined with a card like Banisher of the Light you have a 0% chance of winning (unless you have cards to bring back from banishment). Exodia decks also require high defense monsters to stall while you continue to draw exodia pieces before hitting 0 LP which increases the 40 card count to as high as 60 cards. a standard 40 card deck consists of: 5 Exodia pieces 1 Sangan 1 Witch of the Black Forest 3 Emissary of the Afterlife 1 Pot Of Greed 1 Graceful Charity 1 Dark Hole 1 Monster Reborn 1 Call of the Haunted 1 Premature Burial that's almost half the deck on these cards alone and now you have to fit in 20 cards while trying to prioritize what is important. in those 20 cards you need support cards like UFO Turtle/Mystic Tomato (these cards protect your LPs and allow you to easily special summon Sangan and WotBF), Gravity Bind/Messenger of Peace (these cards further stall by preventing strong monsters from attacking you), Magician of Faith (allows you to use again important magic cards like Monster Reborn, Pot of Greed, Graceful Charity, etc...). then you need to find space to add counter cards like Mirror Force, Magic and Trap Jammers aswell as High Defense Monsters like Giant Solder of Stone and Labyrinth Wall to further stall and now that 40 card deck is no longer 40 cards. it's actually much easier and better to use a card destruction deck where you carry more than 40 cards and using cards like Card Destruction and Morphing Jar to make the opponent run out of cards before you do than it is to try to win with Exodia.
In heart of the underdog variants, you can play reload and hand destruction, since they are quick spells and thus can be played in the draw step. And since HotU triggers of any card drawn during the draw step, it will continue the combo
That deck was always very vulnerable, I remember back in days when I was active Yu-GI-Oh player, all that you needed to stop that deck is Morping jar or card destruction when they take their first part of Exodia with some card like Sangan or Witch of the Black Forrest
I am surprised you never mention Exodia's support Exodia incarnate and Obliterate!! Which don't really help a traditional exodia deck do help it play in a new and different way which I always found fun in a casual setting. If Exodia ever became competitively viable I would hope it be on introducing more support for exodia specifically like those two cards did, since it felt more like I was playing with my opponent instead of playing solitaire that my opponent could possibly thwart if they happened to draw the right counter.
i can't help but think of a minor villain in the "battle city" story. he had 3 of each Exodia part, a bunch of "graceful charity" cards (draw 3 then discard 2), and some "wall" monsters (low attack but high defence). Yugi defeated him by using "chain destruction" to remove all of his "left arms" from play. (he beat Joey with that deck earlier)
Little note I'd like to add about the 'heart of the underdog' exodia strategy. I personally play that strategy with a fuck ton of pendulum monsters, allowing me to just dump my hand one turn, summon a bunch of stuff, use pendulum normal tuners like hallo hallo to go into coral dragon to pop things and draw more cards, building up a big board and providing protection for my heart of the underdog. It's still not competitive due to the chance of not drawing heart of the underdog, or drawing exodia too early and either having dead cards or having to use the exodia pieces as impromptu link pieces, but it certainly is a rogue deck that can have some powerful plays turn after turn if you get a good hand.
I remember in the anime, they did stuff like throwing the pieces in the gy and then recovering them with monster reincarnation or feather of phoenix. And I guess people didn't play them with deck thining like those monsters that summon 2 more copies of itself from the deck for whatever condition just so you can draw the pieces naturally.
If you draw them naturally that's FIVE turns of waiting. Right now exodia has about 4 searchers: Sangan, Witch of the black forest, Legion the fiend jester, and Blue dragon summoner. Just link these bois away and it will add pieces but this REALLY janky
Why would life-equalizer be a good card? You have to have a difference of at least 8000 life points, that's not exactly easy to do. What combination of cards would let this work? Can someone link me a deck that utilizes life equalizer and magical explosion?
@@Srock8994 just looked it up, and holy shit chicken game is busted lol, I knew there was some crucial component to that strategy that Doug wasn't letting on
There are also cards like gift card that give your opponent 3000 lifepoints. And upstart gives them 1000. Life equalizer and magical explosion caused the banning and limiting of a lot of cards. The crazy thing? Magical explosion is still good in sky strikers. They can amass like 15 spells in there Graves fairly easily. They just grind away until there opponent is low on life and then magical explosion to finish off the rest.
I do. The Hope for Exodia strategy still works, but if you put in Evenly Matched to deal with overextension and slide some Designator from the Grave in there to deal with Ash/Droll, you'll be quite fine.
While I do have an Exodia deck and I really enjoy it, and making it either more defensive or draw powerful, I know Exodia has never seen too much competitive success. Gotta love Exodia though. Dzeef I love your videos, listening to your advice on bad and good cards has made me a better player, and I thank you for that. Have you ever thought about making a series like your 'Why nobody plays' only making it 'Why everybody plays'? Like 'Why everybody plays Ash Blossom & Joyous Spring' or something along those lines. I think that'd be interesting.
Hey dzeeff! Big fan of your videos as a player considering going to more tournaments. I was recently wondering about something related to one of your other "Nobody Plays ..." videos. After the 200th YCS, I was watching a lot of deck profiles and I really wanted to ask you this before I forgot. There was a Paleozoic frog deck that made top 64 in Columbus and I wanted to know your thoughts on the player running literally 3 copies of dark bribe instead of something like wiretap or another alternative. I know a lot on this channel, you talk about how important card advantage is, especially in the more modern format. As a newer player, I always want to learn more, but at times I'm getting confused signals from some of the best in the player base. In this example, why would dark bribe be useful in such a competitive format when giving your opponent another card is very dangerous and can easily let him/her capitalize despite the effect of dark bribe? I'm just honestly wondering can the card be good in SOME certain circumstance in the competitive scene. Anyway, great video as usual.
Sometimes you have to remember that just because one player at one tournament topped with a card doesn't make the card suddenly good. He used it as a metagame call, but we can't apply that to every deck/tournament.
Wow! thanks for such a quick reply. That's good to keep in mind. I guess sometimes, I get easily swayed by crazy deck profiles on youtube running super niche cards, but forget that there's a reason that most of the tops in the tournament aren't running a bunch of these cards. I suppose I kind of have an internal conflict where I want to play unique surprise cards to have some sense of individual creativity, but often times this goal conflicts with optimizing my deck to win as much as possible on average. Anyway, thanks once again.
Like hope Exodia is a good deck, I have no idea what you are talking about..., The issue isn't Exodia, the issue is that EVENTS/Formats that have multiple rounds, and you have a single win condition due to basic RNG your not going to always pull that win condition off. -Also that build is really old and there is better ones and stuff..., ergo my build was better. A true exodia deck does not care what the opponent is running you are playing yourself...
*Yugis exodia legal deck recipie:* *Monsters* Exodia the forbidden one Left arm of the forbidden one Left leg of the forbidden one Right arm of the forbidden one Right leg of the forbidden one Kuriboh Magician of faith Mystical elf Catapult turtle Beaver warrior Lone wolf Feral imp Giant soldier of stone Horn imp Celtic guardian Mammoth grave yard Curse of dragon Gaia the fierce knight Dark magician Summoned Skull Black luster soldier *Spells* Black luster ritual Black pendant Book of secret arts Creature swap (anime monster replace) Horn of the unicorn Mystic box Polymerization Silent doom Soul exchange Spell shattering arrow Swords of revealing light Upstart goblin (pot of greed) Yami *traps* Call of the haunted (monster reborn) Castle walls Gift of the mystical elf (mystical elfs spell) Magical hats Mirror force Spellbinding circle Extra Gaia the dragon champion *Playstyle* stall Slow Strong defensive Fragile attack Limited hand You won't survive
You have to build the right deck for Exodia to work. I've actually created an unstoppable deck and here are the cards I use:
1x Exodia the Forbidden One
1x Left Leg of the Forbidden One
1x Right Leg of the Forbidden One
1x Left Arm of the Forbidden One
1x Right Arm of the Forbidden One
35x Pot of Greed
Suffice to say, my success with this deck has been unparalleled.
Wack
Yeah, but when are you going to make a new video
What does Pot of Greed do?
@@leighpettit4618 draw 2 cards
Could that deck beat the master chief though
Excuse me, but my Grandpa plays yugioh and my grandpa's deck has no pathetic cards but it does contains the unstoppable Exodia.
EXODIA! IMPOSSIBLE! NO ONES BEEN ABLE TO SUMMON HIM!
@Valrath823 no, because only yugis grandpa is the only one stupid enough to use it
It also contains the unstoppable mushroom man
What??!! Explodia?!!!
@ruyman90 *takes your grandpas exodia pieces and throws it over broad* Now nothing can stop me from winning the duelst kingdom tournament!
Nobody plays Exodia, because you need Pot of Greed to make it work, but nobody knows what Pot of Greed does.
TELL ME
What does it do again? I forgot
You need a very high IQ to understand what it does. Not even Stephen Hawking fully understood it.
What's Pot of Greed?
@Meganime I don't know but I hear that after it resolves the pot is destroyed so maybe it's a continuous spell or something
0:58 that arrangement of exodia should be legally considered a war crime
fax
Same energy as this old meme:
Who would win?
ExooxE vs. diaaid
Well, just play Reinforcement of the Army or something like that. You search your deck for a card, and, while you are searching, you take your deck in your hand, therefore all cards in there are in your hand. So, if all Exodia pieces are in your deck you imediately win.
Or just draw all of them in your first turn
300 iq
Or you just put all five piece on the top of your deck
Want a Harvard scholarship?
demil42 that only works with warriors....
Because they're tossed into the ocean by Weevil, you don't need a 14-minute video to explain that Dzeeff
True
Then how did the rare hunter use 3 copies of it??????
there are more copies of it, plus the ghouls made counterfeit ones anyway
*SAY BYE BYE TO EXODIA*
@@jt_5515 they created fake cards. They were not registered in Kaiba Corp system.
but doug, i play this deck casually and beat my friends at lunch table
ALL THE TIMES
That's great, but that's not what we're focusing on.
Markus Rochin Is sarcasm something you focus on?
+Andrei Valdez Why yes, it is. I was continuing the dialog from the video 4:14. I was going along with the joke. I guess you're the one who can't see sarcasm.
@@gengarvenom you just got double wooshed
But Doug. I play an Exodia deck with my friends. And I always win 100% half the time. Which is extra sad coz I only play with one friend and her name is my sister and she's 8 years old. Oh, I took it to a local tournament and got 15th place. It's an eight person tournament.
Casual Potato that is quite impressive my friend. Not everyone can beat their 8-year old sibling. I lost to my younger brother when he was 8 because I played the game for him whenever we dueled
@@zenithjarrett329 Wow when i used Exodia i would win only 50% of the time to my not conceived baby brother
Mine N Adventurer _The Aegis Boy_ now that is something that takes true skill
you cant even beat your 8 yaer old sister wow what a peice of work you are dum dum
> And her name is my sister
Best win I ever had to this day: I drew all 5 pieces in my opening hand. COMPLETELY RANDOM and everyone at the table just broke down laughing.
That’s incredible👏🏾
NANI
assuming you were using a minimum of 40 cards(excluding extra deck), thats a 1 in 658,008 chance of happening.
@@sirize9971 there are better chances if you dont follow banlists and us 3 of each, also if you originally put them together as shuffling by hand is not totally random, even if honest
@@sirize9971 yeah xD never happening again for sure. It was crazy
I just wish Left Leg was unlimited so that my Left Leg beatdown was competitive in this new meta.
We all know that exodia with 4 left legs is the true forbidden one
@@brianli6562 can we get a bunch of fan art of this? Please
Did you just make a Teen Titans Go joke?
AmayariX get 3 axes of despair
Meanwhile, Man-Eater Bug Beatdown is completely free. 😎👍
Too be fair you need a pretty High Iq and the luck of joey wheeler to Win with Exodia
Joey is only lucky rolling dice, not drawing cards.
He would be unbeatable in Dungeon Dice Monsters.
Nah
I win 100% of the time with this deck
All 5 pieces of exodia
35 pots of greeds
I got exodia in my opening hand once. It was in dark worlds to have a back up win con.
what if you play exodia in a diffrent way? i play on one of the worst places for an exodia player to exist dueling nexus but i won more often than not i use like 80 diffrent versions of exodia the idea is no matter what i draw i have a way to win be it by attacking with exodia necross or sending the pices to the grave with exodious the ultamit forbidon lord or using OBLITORATE!!! to destroy my opponents monsters and strenthinging my exodia incarnent
@@freziaplanet4198 what about having high luck but the iq of Joey wheeler?
Why play this when you can win in 20 turns with Final Countdown???
i play both in same deck and my opponent hate me
So its off the ban list now?
broken
Final Countdown is only 10 turns.
Final countdown is 20 turns... it literally says it on the card. Unless you are only counting YOUR turns but then you are ignoring half the turns in a match which is... well i mean you are ignoring half the match which you just cant do
so what you're saying is, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE !!?!?!? NO ONE'S EVER BEEN ABLE TO SUMMON HIM ?!
The guy that got top 8 in worlds did
omega5040 it’s not possible. No ones been able to summon him
Nope never. Exodia isn't a card you can summon.
*in 3k people tournament finals*
Yes
It's because they don't know about the heart of the cards
Exodia is inconsistent? I never had any problems winning turn zero.
You just have to draw all five pieces turn one, not sure what the issue is...
*Gets ash blossomed and then uses droll* 😂
@Kyle Dunnell Near impossible
@@danield.2998 But not entirely🤔
@@zwartesoep2010 But in our life time it wouldn't happen. Especially the winning tornament part of what Kyle Dunnell said. Maybe the instant exodia.
5 bucks says Doug was so ready to use this post in his inevitable "Commenters don't understand Exodia" video
me, an old exodia player: "I could make a house with all these bricks"
nobody plays exodia because weevil threw away the only copies
Later we saw someone playing 3 copies of each and he BRICKED!
Some one on the boat to duelist kingdom hade him its not like the god cards which only have 1 copy
There was that one guy in battle city
@@nexusgiga they were fakes
@@dougneon9550 Not mentionning that this guy also have like 2 or 3 Graceful Charity kek
Who Here is expecting the follow up Video: „ Casual Players don‘t understand Exodia“ ? 😂
No because you see im pretty sure that its common knowledge that exodia is unreliable @ best
Could be wrong tho people are dumb :\
Commentators*
@@andyvie5332 are you insane? There are idiots who would defend Exodia before they mention the E.G.s
Should be "Exodia doesn't understand Casual Players" instead
welp its here
nobody plays exodia becuase
anydeck that can acually pull it off conseisntly gets banned
Pretty much.
Exodia isn't a bad card by any means, it is in fact the best card with a built in win condition since what is required for this win condition is something that you want anyway and that is to draw. The problem with Exodia is that, if it were to become meta, that would be terrible for the game as a whole and anytime it starts to get some steam with a new consistent draw engine, this draw engine gets hit (or it benefits from an engine that is also degenerate elsewhere and is thus hit but it is the same thing regardless)
All in all, Exodia isn't bad in the slightest, it is very very good, and that's why it doesn't see play, because it truly is the forbidden one (or in this case I'd use a direct translation of the French localisation which I find very fitting, it is Exodia the Damned/the Accursed, because it is too good and has to be sealed away and everything that touches it has to be as well, this is his curse)
@@sephikong8323 Damn. Gave you a like. Well-deserved.
Just draw the five cards. You don't need to use anything to cheat. Just keep the cards in your hand bro lol
Pretty much. I faced one back in the day on YGOPro at the time current banlist and I never got a turn because they emptied their deck to get Exodia. Today half that deck is limited or banned.
I wonder if most players here are aware that playing "competitively" doesn't mean "I play really aggressively with my friends during lunchtime"?
He isn't played because nobody's been able to summon him.
Exodia is inherently a card that cannot be allowed to be consistent.
Yep. It plays alone, if its too consistent, it nreaks the format
Exodia!? That's impossible! No one has ever made Exodia competitively viable before!
In the ocg they did
@@akiraasmr3002 This was from before i heard that.
I love my Exodia deck to death, but it's a third rate deck for fourth rate duelists. I mainly use it for testing out new decks my friends are building because it has so much stall and destruction in it that it's a good test for poking holes in people's strategies for them to tune out of the deck.
third rate duelist with a fourth rate deck
If anyone's still confused about the trap card FTK that beats out Exodia that's mentioned at the end of the video, here's how it works.
1. Use the draw spell Upstart Goblin to put your opponents LP to 9000 or more.
2. Use the draw spell Into the Void, that discards your hand in the End Phase.
3. After hitting a dead end on your draw streak, set 3 cards and pass turn. Your hand will be discarded.
4. Play Wall of Revealing Light - pay 7000. Chain Magical Explosion. Chain Life Equalizer. Chain resolves: opponent has 3000 LP, then takes over 4000 damage from Magical Explosion as you're running 20-30 Spell Cards. You win the game.
If you take first turn, your opponent can't even use Quick Play Spells at the start of their turn to destroy your backrow - if they do, you just chain your cards in response. There's no way to stop the combo after the 3 cards are set and the above conditions are met.
Because you can just return the infinite attack with magic cylinder.
😂😂🤣🤣
That doesn’t work cause the second exodia is played, the duel would be over it’s like an instant win. you would need to prevent the player to get all 5 pieces into the hand.
Jade FlareGemVRC2018 r/wooooosh
Also, Exodia transcends not only Yugioh but card games in general. I see a lot of other games ( MOBAS for instance ) where they get a perfect team comp and the casters will say " they have the Exodia comp " It's really charming.
Dzeef if you really want to know than OPEN YOUR MIND *MIND CRUSH*
lol
Noo you fool wrong person!!!!
If you really want to know, then _talk to the hand!_
Or, in other words: Why Left Leg of the Forbidden One is a staple in every deck.
To those who are interested, the chances of winning before the game begins, is
0.00000633% chance for your opening hand to be an instant win. And that's with 40 cards in your deck.
I cant wait for"Why Nobody plays YU-GI-OH"
milos lukic easy: Konami has ruined it
Pokemon
Konami sucks, Power creep, the secondary market...
Because it's a poorly designed game
@Kenny Herndon - It's a terribly designed game, but that's half the fun of it. Nothing makes sense, everything is weird, balance is non-existant, but the game just runs with it, and it makes it hilarious.
I really like your series "Why Nobody Plays", but here is an interesting idea: Do a series where you talk about what it would take for the cards you talk about in this series to be viable in a competitive format.
Making an instant win condition consistent would probably screw up the game, to be honest. You better hope your opponent with the Exodia deck doesn't go first.
In the case of Exodia that's simple : unban/unrestrict the big draw cards (Pot of Greed, Graceful, Disc Commander, Destiny Draw etc)
Is it a good idea ? No, absolutely. If Exodia becomes meta then it becomes a very bad meta as a consistent Exodia deck is the best deck imaginable and you'd have no reason not to play it and the game would just become FTK after FTK. Exodia isn't a "good" competitive card because it is too good to be made consistent and it is the driving force behind a lot of the bans even if not the main one, it is sort of the Pandora's Box of the game, if you let too many good draw cards in then it will become too consistent and wreck the meta.
@@sephikong8323
Not even just instant victory cards, cards that let you draw with little to no cost make it really easy to set up long chains and win that way. If there was a card that says "Draw 2 cards but you cannot activate any card effects that state you win the duel", it would still probably be way too OP.
@@VGamingJunkieVT Draw cards are op for a different reason though. They are OP because they are splashable, there is not a single deck where you would not want to play Graceful Charity or Pot of Greed since they have no drawbacks (I mean Graceful Charity had a drawback at first ....... except that now it would almost be the best effect of the card for certain decks), and this theoretical card's only drawback would only be so for Exodia deck, so everyone else would play it. What makes Exodia OP is that it's win condition is tied to this same thing that you want to do anyway : draw.
Whereas you can slap any draw card without drawbacks into any deck, Exodia is the best card to take advantage of said cards as you don't require more to win the duel, you don't have to invest those ressources you draw into field control, you just need to use them to draw more and thin your deck for that win. Basically : drawing cards are broken because "why would I not play them ?" Whereas Exodia is broken because "if I have a draw engine that can trim my deck, why would I play anything else than Exodia ?". Both are degenerate and stem from the fact that cards are the only ressource in the game tbh
Why are you reading this ?
True, and misunderstandings tend to come from people who play other card games where you need to spend resources to make any moves. With Yugioh, you can play cards all you want and the only limit is one normal summon per turn.
Play 5 bricks, then when you brick SUPER hard, insta win. It’s definitely not just bad
Play 6 bricks
I think Exodia more hilarious in a mirror match there is an astronomical statistically pretty much impossible zero turn kill if both players draw all Exodia pieces in their starting hand.
not kidding drawing exodia turn one is 1 in 500,000 making both players draw literally 1 in 100,000,000 aka million
The most legendary draw ever, in both meanings of the word draw.
You never mentioned one of the biggest key things you gotta have when using an Exodia deck. Belief in the heart of the cards ;)
just wait until a 4 star sphinx monster gets released and use exodd master of the guard to win every duel
I can smell the memes about this video title
Because it's horrifically inconsistent and all the draw cards that *could* make it less so are either limited or banned.
God, I wish the Heart of the Underdog strat was feasible tho. That one's hilarious.
I mean, H.o.t.U. does have a searcher that's searchable
3 copies of sales pitch and at least 2 traptrick should suffice.
BUUUUT DOOOUUUGGG!! I play my exodia egiptian gods deck and got top 4 on a regional!! YoU dOnT kNoW aNyThInG aBoUt CoMpEtItIvE yGo!!!
You are bad at trolling
4 person regional
@@shortbread9518 if it was only 4 people then they would cancel it
@@getyourgameon1990 haha right? You tell them bro! Thumbs up :DDD
@@getyourgameon1990 r/wooosh
Update: in Master Duel you can draw your entire deck in one or two turns perfect for exodia
Yes, hes aware, but it's not in the tcg and not in a tournament. Doesn't make him good at all
@@phantomnite Only because the are better ways to annihilate your opponent, namely VFD, Rhongo and IO. It's telling enough Six Sams favors Rhongomyniad turbo instead of the literal hundreds of consistent FTK combos they have at their disposal.
@@phantomnite casual play and the video games allow for ftk but yugioh continues to change and update ban lists so its become impossible to win on deck building skills but the tcg has become all about the "new meta cards" this would be why i quit the tcg. i shouldnt have to read an encyclopedia of banned cards to build a tournament compliant deck, so i dont have to build two versions of the same deck
@@zeroph3849 it's not that hard to read dude, you're just complaining over nothing there.
It's a tournament, and no one wants to play against an unfair instawin deck, it's just not fun. Sure Exodia is easier to get past but ftks still arnt fun.
@@joanaguayoplanell4912 doesnt negate my point though, and even when those kinds of cards didnt exist, Exodia still wasnt played. Exodia isnt consistent enough
I had a great lesson with my math class where we watched this episode for fun and then I asked my students what the probability is of drawing all 5 cards in your opening hand since it fits right in with probability where you don’t replace your sample.
Simply put Exodia, Dark Magician, Blue Eyes White Dragon and other cards from the original first series are the OG pioneers of the game. As the game evolved, they became useless, but to keep them in use, like he said, they tend to be the stepping stones of powerful XYZ and Synchro cards.On a similar scale...The God Cards. Back then, there was so much hype with them, but eventually people began to realize, they actually suck compared to many fusion synchro and XYZ cards, but like I said, they are the OGs of the game and like all OGs, they still get their mad respects.
There's a reason Kaiba said nobody's ever successfully played Exodia...
Saw him get summoned in a card shop tournament called wild wolf once in Illinois. As a 10 year old kid it was one of the coolest things ever like watching a straight royal flush lol.
i remember taking my exodia deck to a local tournament at some point, way back, then the guy who ran the tournament made a deck specifically just to discard my hand and such to specifically counter exodia, that was quite fun while it lasted (i didnt actually have much success with it, it was just what i had so i used it and had fun with it) I played more of a stall deck rather than a superdraw
That image of a kid playing with his cat just makes me wonder what plot line in the Yugioh anime he must be to fight the legendary kitty duelist
I think that [Motion wave cannon] combined with [Swords of Revealing Light] is a very easy win condition.
Especcially if you have cards that can prevent your opponent from destroying your spell cards so that you dont have to reset the MWC.
After you place the Motion Wave Cannon, it begins powering up, when you activate it it deals how many turns has passed since you placed it times 1000.
If you have multiple motion wave cannons that you can place them at the same time and can win in 4 or 3 turns.
Only way of countering the mwc is by destroying it, it has no requirements for staying on the field.
Your opponent probably doesnt have a lot of spell card destroyers, so if you place one then survive for 8 turns, you win.
Hell, add Messenger of Peace(?) into the mix and altough it deals 100 damage to you at the start of your turns, it makes it so that monsters with 1500 or higher ATK cant attack. Place a monster with 1500 atk or def and you are safe from battle damage.
This comment really made me nostalgic for old school Yugioh when I played at school and thought combos like the one you mentioned were actually good
@@Dzeeff thanks I guess? I started playing again like... 2 months ago. I havent played for more than 6 years which were mostly just casual plays. With the pc games though, I havent been able to counter the WMC that much since my cards were all random from booster packs and had like... 2 spell destroyers.
I only won against that AI because it kept destroying its spell cards to (re)summon monsters that I could destroy via brute force or card effects.
But I have to ask, why does it fail? It feels like(and in my experience) is just a really easy way to do a lot of damage to your opponent. Definitely more reliable than Exodia too.
(Edit: also thanks for replying, its nice to see a content creator respond in comments)
The basic reason Wave Motion Cannon has never been good is that it just sits there and does nothing. It takes severeal turns to do significant damage so by the time it's decent your opponent will have either already won or they'll have drawn a spell destruction card
@@Dzeeff thanks for explaining it to me, though I suppose if you were to have other spell cards that are quite effective the WMC could be a distraction to keep those spell cards on the field, or to keep the opponent from destroying the WMC which could deal like 4000 damage which is not that bad.
Cards like burden of the mighty or other continious spell cards that give the contoller a high advantage could be protected this way I think. Thus while WMC wont be able to do much as it will be hit by the spell destruction card before it can deal damage close to 8000, it can act as a sort of a scare tactic I guess?
Because no one realizes how good it would be with 3 Magic Cylinders and of course we don't know what Magic Cylinder does, since it is equal to Pot of Greed.
Because it's Exodia, it's impossible, no one has managed to summon him.
I'm rewatching this in the post master duel era and it's funny in hindsight how many different exodia decks Dzeeff ended up playing.
It's not like hes playing it in a competitive environment. It's just a fun ass deck
WHAT? EXODIA? NO ONE HAS EVER SUMMONED HIM BEFORE! ... And now we know why :p bless you final Egyptian god dzeeff
I love how Exodia isn't the best Exodia combo on Yu Gi Oh
Caio Prado It's in fact one of the worst which makes it extra funny.
You have to run it in your side deck! Without it why even bother playing this game...
Lol
Please tell me you're joking
If you can’t figure out the joke then I’m so sorry for your lack of brain cells
I questioned it because i've talked to people who actually believe exodia is the best card
I know this is a joke but, exodia would not run in your side deck.
It's really cool how this game looks at the higher up levels. As someone who's only ever played casual, it's making me rethink the way I look at YGO, and card games in general.
Please, my Left Leg of the Forbidden One beatdown deck has never lost a match.
Another issue with exodia is that if any of the pieces go to the graveyard, it's going to be tough to get them back in your hand
Actually they can be in hand and field
Hats off to the guy that played it and won at a competitive level. GOD bless him!
For fun, and in a smaller tourney
They should really semi limit left leg.
Nah left arm is where it's at
I like the idea of hitting all 5 cards in your opening hand in a live tournament, it’s possible you just need to remember someone wins the lottery 100% of the time the potential it’s you is just ( 1:population of country )
Thanks dzeeff, you literally brought a smile on my face with that photo of a cat sitting on his back playing the amazing game of Yugi oh ☺️☺️☺️☺️
I always played and loved decks like this, but I always felt like Empty Jar was by far more realistic. It actively hinders and harasses the opponent, I almost never find myself scoping in response to a single move unless it's a REALLY good movie at a REALLY bad time. More importantly, it psychology messes with players as they second guess every play they make.
Who plays this when you can play Creator of Miracles, shout "ZEXAL Field" and win by attacking directly
What about other Exodia cards like Necros, Ultimate Forbidden Lord, Legendary Exodia Incarnate and the few other spell / trap card supports? Was there any potential viable-ness or was Exodia always destined to be for casual play?
Incarnate is nice actually but JUST being a "towers" with on average 3000 ATK means he has no use because:
1. Metaltron
2. Towers himself
3. Ultimate falcon
exodia was designed to be a deus ex machina for the manga.
Necross is terrible
As someone who watched a small amount of the anime and collected cards only for about 1 month, this was a really interesting video. You clearly aren't some joe schmoe talking about yugioh, you have a huge knowledge pool to pull from to make well reasoned points understandable by anyone. Great job
The virgin magical mallet and the chad reload.
I think it would have been good to talk about the bunch of cards that are ban because of Exodia and that even then it is still a just a fun deck that fails on the competitive level
There are no cards that are banned because of exodia.
Cards like pot of greed, graceful charity, painful choice, and pot of avarice are all banned because of other much more powerful decks.
Usually darkworlds.
Darkworlds caused the banning of quite a lot of cards. as did dragon rulers.
@@GeneralNickles cards like Dagger Elma or Primal Seed have been ban because loops and Exodia usually exploits those loops, sure any card draw is good for Exodia but I meant mostly those examples
@@DAK84
Elma is banned because of the infinite gearfreid loop with spell absorbsion. Has nothing to do with exodia. It CAN be exploited by exodia, but so hard to set up that it really doesn't matter.
And primal seed isn't banned. Don't even know what you're talking about with that one.
Primal Seed was limited (sorry tho it had been ban) because again loops that is what I tried to explain before lots of cards were banned on the early days because of loops or interactions and Exodia just exploit them
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Galactic God explains it better I suggest to see it
@@DAK84 "these cards were banned because they formed infinite loops" and "these cards were banned because of exodia" are very, very, *very* different
When I played YGO (from the time it first aired in the US to 2015), I only managed to win by playing Exodia once. Mind you, I only got the Exodia cards in 2009, but I only had them in my deck as filler, basically would "accidentally" show my opponent my hand partially if I had two or three of the pieces to scare them. I somehow managed to draw all five Exodia cards on the opening draw when I was playing with a friend. Absolutely sheer luck and not likely to ever occur again. It was hilarious, though.
Why nobody plays the forbidden one? Well, simple, it's forbidden. :^)
More like exodia the limited one
I had a Dueling Network friend back in 2012, we devised an lockdown type of Exodia deck. the main play style was, activate cards like Skill Drain, Imperial Custom & Metal Reflect Slime backed by two Dark Bribes or two Fake Traps (Back in 2012, we also run cards likes Upstart Goblin & One Day of Peace @ 3) or alternate combo switch out Reflect Slime with Scrubbed Raid, other defensive cards that were used are Prohibtion, Nimble Momonga, Battle Fader/Swift Scarecrow and as for draw cards, besides the Upstart & Peace we relied with Legacy of Yata Garasu, Reckless Greed, Card Car D, Allure of Darkness, Emissary of the Afterlife, Pot of Duality.
The main idea was, with those cards on board, we basically lockdown all possible options for the opposing player, they can't attack, no monster effs and negation to any sort of trap destruction/removal, while we draw to the pieces of Exodia with a somewhat strong draw engine.
The funny thing about this deck was, it was quite effective against some meta decks back in the day.
The Deck: (we strictly followed the "40" card deck but I'm gonna list all the cards that we used)
Monsters:
The Exodia Pieces
Nimble Momonga x 3
Swift Scarecrow x 3
Battle Fader x 3
Card Car D x 3
Emissary of the Afterlife x 3
Spells:
One Day of Peace x 3
Upstart Goblin x 3
Allure of Darkness x 2
Pot of Duality x 2
Prohibition x 3
Traps: (your bread and butter in this deck)
Skill Drain x 3
Imperial Custom x 3
Metal Reflect Slime x 3
Scrubbed Raid x 3
Dark Bribe x 3
Fake Trap x 3
Reckless Greed x 3
Legacy of Yata Garasu x 3
Fast forward to 2021, the deck is now neutered in the TCG format (but somewhat playable in the OCG)
No offense, but I find it difficult to believe an exodia deck was even halfway decent back in 2012 when Wind-Up and Mermail handloops were running rampant in the meta.
@@NickersonGeneral I didn't say that it was stomping meta decks, I said it was effective against SOME meta decks.
Dino Rabbit & Wind Ups were struggling against this deck but Dark Worlds can easily beat this while Mermails can be pain in the ass if you don't main cards like Prohibition and Fake Trap.
@@drsoe08 And I didn't say you said it was stomping the meta, but to even imply you made a deck that Wind-Ups and Dino Rabbit would "struggle" against is saying that it's more than halfway decent at the time, and I'm still finding it hard to believe. The moment wind-ups would dump exodia pieces in the grave, this deck is dead, and the only real counter you have is Skill Drain or Prohibition, both unreliable counters. Fake Trap can protect them, but at the cost if it being a giant brick.
See, here's the thing. I wish I had a nickel every time I encountered someone who claimed their deck does well against the meta, and it's some egyptian god deck or sacred beasts or mill or exodia or anything that barely saw any meta play (but is really popular with casual players), and I have yet to see a single time I was proven wrong when I just assumed they were hyper inflating one or two times they got lucky against some meta strategy.
I'm not saying you're lying, but you understand my skepticism right? If an Exodia lockdown deck was really that good against Dino Rabbit and Wind-Up back in 2012, then it's weird that no one thought to play it in major tournaments. That's literally the holy grail, an unexpected deck that reliably contends with 2 of the most played meta decks that no one saw coming and therefore struggles to side against.
The issue with an Exodia Deck is that is can be easily countered by cards that force you to discards in your hand so cards like Card Destruction and Morphing Jar when you have 3 or more exodia cards in your hand. when combined with a card like Banisher of the Light you have a 0% chance of winning (unless you have cards to bring back from banishment). Exodia decks also require high defense monsters to stall while you continue to draw exodia pieces before hitting 0 LP which increases the 40 card count to as high as 60 cards.
a standard 40 card deck consists of:
5 Exodia pieces
1 Sangan
1 Witch of the Black Forest
3 Emissary of the Afterlife
1 Pot Of Greed
1 Graceful Charity
1 Dark Hole
1 Monster Reborn
1 Call of the Haunted
1 Premature Burial
that's almost half the deck on these cards alone and now you have to fit in 20 cards while trying to prioritize what is important.
in those 20 cards you need support cards like UFO Turtle/Mystic Tomato (these cards protect your LPs and allow you to easily special summon Sangan and WotBF), Gravity Bind/Messenger of Peace (these cards further stall by preventing strong monsters from attacking you), Magician of Faith (allows you to use again important magic cards like Monster Reborn, Pot of Greed, Graceful Charity, etc...). then you need to find space to add counter cards like Mirror Force, Magic and Trap Jammers aswell as High Defense Monsters like Giant Solder of Stone and Labyrinth Wall to further stall and now that 40 card deck is no longer 40 cards.
it's actually much easier and better to use a card destruction deck where you carry more than 40 cards and using cards like Card Destruction and Morphing Jar to make the opponent run out of cards before you do than it is to try to win with Exodia.
Or you want all 5 Exodia in your opening hand
But Doug, it has no bad matchups. You always have the chance of drawing all 5 pieces turn 1.
Ah yes, 2005. The beginning of all recorded history.
In heart of the underdog variants, you can play reload and hand destruction, since they are quick spells and thus can be played in the draw step. And since HotU triggers of any card drawn during the draw step, it will continue the combo
That deck was always very vulnerable, I remember back in days when I was active Yu-GI-Oh player, all that you needed to stop that deck is Morping jar or card destruction when they take their first part of Exodia with some card like Sangan or Witch of the Black Forrest
I am surprised you never mention Exodia's support Exodia incarnate and Obliterate!! Which don't really help a traditional exodia deck do help it play in a new and different way which I always found fun in a casual setting. If Exodia ever became competitively viable I would hope it be on introducing more support for exodia specifically like those two cards did, since it felt more like I was playing with my opponent instead of playing solitaire that my opponent could possibly thwart if they happened to draw the right counter.
i can't help but think of a minor villain in the "battle city" story.
he had 3 of each Exodia part, a bunch of "graceful charity" cards (draw 3 then discard 2), and some "wall" monsters (low attack but high defence).
Yugi defeated him by using "chain destruction" to remove all of his "left arms" from play.
(he beat Joey with that deck earlier)
The exodia heads
@@timothyskidmore1554 ok, in the Anime, it was the heads, but in the Manga, it was the arms.
Cyber Stein into Blue Eyes Ultimate Dragon was amazing
Then play Megamorph and just one shot your opponent
Little note I'd like to add about the 'heart of the underdog' exodia strategy. I personally play that strategy with a fuck ton of pendulum monsters, allowing me to just dump my hand one turn, summon a bunch of stuff, use pendulum normal tuners like hallo hallo to go into coral dragon to pop things and draw more cards, building up a big board and providing protection for my heart of the underdog. It's still not competitive due to the chance of not drawing heart of the underdog, or drawing exodia too early and either having dead cards or having to use the exodia pieces as impromptu link pieces, but it certainly is a rogue deck that can have some powerful plays turn after turn if you get a good hand.
I remember in the anime, they did stuff like throwing the pieces in the gy and then recovering them with monster reincarnation or feather of phoenix. And I guess people didn't play them with deck thining like those monsters that summon 2 more copies of itself from the deck for whatever condition just so you can draw the pieces naturally.
If you draw them naturally that's FIVE turns of waiting. Right now exodia has about 4 searchers:
Sangan, Witch of the black forest, Legion the fiend jester, and Blue dragon summoner. Just link these bois away and it will add pieces but this REALLY janky
Dzeeff: Exodia bad
Konami literally next year: Y'all ever heard of.....
*MYSTIC MINE?!*
No
Can't wait to see him mock commentors in a week on this one
What happens if you play his third leg?
Toadally Awesome, Ash Blossom and Lock Bird are gonna have a feild day with all the reliance on spell combos.
You can't call Life Equalizer+Magical Explosion a 2-card combo. You need to use at least 1 more card to make the difference between the LP 8000
More than 10 minutes video ✔
Casual bait ✔
Angry bait ✔
A fact and weakness that everyone already knew about it ✔
Free revenue yay
wish i could like more
Just learn sleight of hand and pretend to play the deck for a couple of turns then whip out the pieces
Why would life-equalizer be a good card? You have to have a difference of at least 8000 life points, that's not exactly easy to do. What combination of cards would let this work? Can someone link me a deck that utilizes life equalizer and magical explosion?
Cease Benjamin Beast it used to exist back when chicken game was legal, the reason chicken game was banned was because of life equalizer FTK’s
@@Srock8994 just looked it up, and holy shit chicken game is busted lol, I knew there was some crucial component to that strategy that Doug wasn't letting on
There are also cards like gift card that give your opponent 3000 lifepoints.
And upstart gives them 1000.
Life equalizer and magical explosion caused the banning and limiting of a lot of cards.
The crazy thing? Magical explosion is still good in sky strikers. They can amass like 15 spells in there Graves fairly easily. They just grind away until there opponent is low on life and then magical explosion to finish off the rest.
Sometimes wall of revealing light was used in conjuction with upstarts for that.
I do. The Hope for Exodia strategy still works, but if you put in Evenly Matched to deal with overextension and slide some Designator from the Grave in there to deal with Ash/Droll, you'll be quite fine.
While I do have an Exodia deck and I really enjoy it, and making it either more defensive or draw powerful, I know Exodia has never seen too much competitive success. Gotta love Exodia though. Dzeef I love your videos, listening to your advice on bad and good cards has made me a better player, and I thank you for that. Have you ever thought about making a series like your 'Why nobody plays' only making it 'Why everybody plays'? Like 'Why everybody plays Ash Blossom & Joyous Spring' or something along those lines. I think that'd be interesting.
Hey dzeeff! Big fan of your videos as a player considering going to more tournaments. I was recently wondering about something related to one of your other "Nobody Plays ..." videos.
After the 200th YCS, I was watching a lot of deck profiles and I really wanted to ask you this before I forgot. There was a Paleozoic frog deck that made top 64 in Columbus and I wanted to know your thoughts on the player running literally 3 copies of dark bribe instead of something like wiretap or another alternative.
I know a lot on this channel, you talk about how important card advantage is, especially in the more modern format. As a newer player, I always want to learn more, but at times I'm getting confused signals from some of the best in the player base. In this example, why would dark bribe be useful in such a competitive format when giving your opponent another card is very dangerous and can easily let him/her capitalize despite the effect of dark bribe? I'm just honestly wondering can the card be good in SOME certain circumstance in the competitive scene.
Anyway, great video as usual.
Sometimes you have to remember that just because one player at one tournament topped with a card doesn't make the card suddenly good. He used it as a metagame call, but we can't apply that to every deck/tournament.
Wow! thanks for such a quick reply. That's good to keep in mind. I guess sometimes, I get easily swayed by crazy deck profiles on youtube running super niche cards, but forget that there's a reason that most of the tops in the tournament aren't running a bunch of these cards. I suppose I kind of have an internal conflict where I want to play unique surprise cards to have some sense of individual creativity, but often times this goal conflicts with optimizing my deck to win as much as possible on average.
Anyway, thanks once again.
Like hope Exodia is a good deck, I have no idea what you are talking about..., The issue isn't Exodia, the issue is that EVENTS/Formats that have multiple rounds, and you have a single win condition due to basic RNG your not going to always pull that win condition off.
-Also that build is really old and there is better ones and stuff..., ergo my build was better.
A true exodia deck does not care what the opponent is running you are playing yourself...
I only play Left Leg, with Brilliant Fusion, that is
But Doug, I play this deck casually and beat my friends at lunch table all the time.
*Yugis exodia legal deck recipie:*
*Monsters*
Exodia the forbidden one
Left arm of the forbidden one
Left leg of the forbidden one
Right arm of the forbidden one
Right leg of the forbidden one
Kuriboh
Magician of faith
Mystical elf
Catapult turtle
Beaver warrior
Lone wolf
Feral imp
Giant soldier of stone
Horn imp
Celtic guardian
Mammoth grave yard
Curse of dragon
Gaia the fierce knight
Dark magician
Summoned Skull
Black luster soldier
*Spells*
Black luster ritual
Black pendant
Book of secret arts
Creature swap (anime monster replace)
Horn of the unicorn
Mystic box
Polymerization
Silent doom
Soul exchange
Spell shattering arrow
Swords of revealing light
Upstart goblin (pot of greed)
Yami
*traps*
Call of the haunted (monster reborn)
Castle walls
Gift of the mystical elf (mystical elfs spell)
Magical hats
Mirror force
Spellbinding circle
Extra
Gaia the dragon champion
*Playstyle*
stall
Slow
Strong defensive
Fragile attack
Limited hand
You won't survive
Takes 35+ turns to win on average by special condition.
I think the last point of your comments sums up the deck pretty well
@@mmatt1014 yeah it is not meant to be used in competitive. Just a fun theme deck i enjoyed making.
Konami needs to make the third leg for Exodia as New Support
His dick is the third leg
I'll have you know that before MX Saber Invoker got banned a guy at my locals was tearing up my locals with a consistent Exodia Lightsworn Deck.
He was winning a lot.
Stanley someone at my locals won world’s celebration with fucking karakuri. Your argument is fallible
Deck list or it didnt happen
But doug, I play exodia casually in my Fearal Imp Deck!!!
I wish I still had my Infernity Exodia Deck Profile I topped locals with years ago
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