@@40Ccents Give or take that guy's probably under 18 and jobless, in this day and age it's much easier for teens to learn how to program, and in the case of people like them, hacking. I don't think any reasonable adult would think spending hours and hours programming just to grief some minecraft servers is a good idea, at that point in life people just have better stuff to do with their time
@@nullieee if you believe that, like utterly and truly believe that a functional adult is just incapable of wasting their time on something as trivial as this, you live under a rock at the bottom of the mariana trench.
@@derkevevin if online mode is set to false and no authme plugin then all he needs to do is take a sample of the players that connect to that server, then with a hacked client he can "change" his name without booting up the game everytime until he gets to a nick with OP permissions. I actually got bots trying to connect with multiple nicks of actual players, then in 2 seconds spams a series of game rules (to see if that account has op and to make more damage griefing) the video mentioned about "ogur" (ithink) talks more in depth but is basically the same video as this one just another angle.
This comment section is so wildly divided, with like a 50/50 split of some people being like "this is hilarious/based, rock on bro" and the other half being "this dude really sucks, why are you glorifying him" I don't really have feelings on the guy as much as I do on the comments, this is GOLD.
My private world, long term lets play, 6 years old, I've been doing sparse backups on it, I recently did a lot of work in it for a video, I spent 3 solid days building something. Logged out for the night, came back and it was griefed, I lost 3 days of work. I never had a whitelist because no one else I thought had access to my server. Very demotivating, I just came back from a burn out too.
@@lockdot2 You can setup a VPN like Tailscale (based on WireGuard but handles the important stuff for you). This lets you connect to the server from anywhere, while not exposing it to the public internet.
@@CorpsesReborn It's a lot easier to get away with this on modded worlds since they need every mod installed to be able to join. For most griefers that do this it's easier to just ignore them for vanilla worlds instead.
I believe the fact that we have reached the point where griefing has become automated in the best selling game of all time says less about the lengths people will go to grief on Minecraft servers and moreso just how faulty Minecraft's server security systems are. Like how do you respond to a griefer notorious for nuking 150+ servers a day with an automated bot system by banning them for a couple weeks for "offensive language"? That is insane!!
yeah I agree, that is pretty ridiculous. At the same time, those servers are privately run, and it's the server owner that disabled authentication so that pirated ("cracked") versions of Minecraft can join. Mojang/Microsoft definitely should do a better job of not only punishing these people but also educate smaller server owners on how to protect themselves... a message in chat whenever an OP-ed account joins telling them "cracked servers are dangerous, please enable online mode (disable this message in server.config)" would be very helpful. Another issue I reckon is stopping them from moderating properly is the amount of backlash that they receive every time they tried. If it wasn't for chat reporting/bans (which, by the way, was one of THE most controversial updates) they wouldn't have been able to ban them for a few weeks at all.
Are you stupid? Did you not just watch the video? A very VERY large portion are CRACKED Minecraft servers, they are against the law and often run outdated Minecraft versions. No wonder they aren't protected.
@@tjb3171 me and my friends had to learn the hard way, lol. luckily we had been constantly making backups so it was just a minor annoyance at most but we patched our shit up immediately
My friends run a private cracked server, and I've told them a MILLION times that an authentication plugin is important. Apparently it's "too annoying to use" or something lol
@@gorlix its cracked, meaning offline mode. That means it's disconnected to Mojang's authentication servers (so that pirated versions of the game can join) So, anyone can join as any username. If I whitelist myself, for example, anyone can just tell the server that they're me and join as an operator.
@@tjb3171 what do you even mean? Whitelist your IP and IPs of your friends and you're good to go. Oh wait your buddies are gullible and don't know basic functions of port forwarding
Even if he claims to do what he does to "help" people "learn" about server security, it's still a shitty thing to do and he knows it. No one should be taught a lesson by being punished for something they didn't know about.
Agreed. Sadly, most of this comments section idolizes him and calls him "based." Nothing about griefing people and their friends for clout is based. There are also many other ways to teach someone about server security. You don't have to destroy their server.
Agreed. If he really did care about that, he could just log into those servers with Skynet and spam normal signs across the map with a help website URL.
@puny2103 it's not really messed up at all... unless you're afraid of the term "death" but this video is about minecraft stuff containing exploitation which is intended for older audiences I didn't mean anything harmful
@@capyfy I understand. I just was kinda shocked but now that you've explained everything I understand ya meant nothing truly bad. you're just talking about how miserable they'll be for years.
You make him sound way too cool. From everything you said, he just seems like a selfish pos with nothing better to do than ruin other peoples fun. And you can't say he's just doing it for the love of the sport either. He literally spams his socials on his griefs, does yt videos and garners an active community on discord, etc. And honestly I don't even know which is sadder: resorting to this to be part of a community, or needing to do this for his own sens of self worth. Overall pathetic as all hell.
I am surprised people are so mad over people being stupid and unable to properly secure their servers, its their fault, he is just spreading awareness of that and he is quite impressive at that
@@Hellscaped I know, im just saying that most people would just download the jar and run it without doing anything other than install some mods or plugins
Though the griefing brings awareness to ignorant Server owners , I think doing something like this with no morals what so ever is really bad. The amount of time that youtubers, builders , server owners spent on it all goes to nothing? This is really psychotic.
Yeah. I don't get why My Epic thinks the ethics are debatable just because the griefer doesn't have anything in particular against the victims. He came and destroyed their property. Simple as that.
Someone just live to ruin other people fun. Imagine if there's a server where one of their friend has passed and their build is griefed, the amount of regret would be in immeasurable. I wouldn't mind if this happened in Anarchy server, but in your own private server? Hell no.
@stirrain It's not an exploit for someone to join a server without a whitelist. If the server is in offline mode accounts are not password protected so it is hardly an exploit for someone to login as you.
@@gyroninjamodder the server finding exploit, a random person who knows nothing about server security wouldn't think that someone would find their server without having the ip.
"Not personal or biases in any way" - has a literal algorithm DEDICATED to finding and destroying youtuber servers. - has bombed the same server not once, not twice, but over thrice. this is just confusing.
As much as you say that he's griefing just for fun, it's still really wrong to do so. It's like punching someone and kicking him at his back until he vomits blood, and then telling him "you should've learned how to defend yourelf". It's fucked up man. And saying "he just does this for fun", yeah I guess he just does it for fun, but the effect of his actions is still damaging. It's like burning an entire forest and getting caught by the police, then you say "hey, it's just for fun! I don't intend to destroy wildlife!" ... but like, that's what you did. That's what you did exactly, destroy wildlide, ruin an entire forest. "But you should've secured the area!" Well that doesn't mean you should destroy it immediately just because there's no law saying that it should be watched. There is still a moral law and you broke it. Not everything has to be put into a paper to be considered an existing law. Likewise, saying "you should've whitelisted" is just a pathetic reason to such damaging acts. This should not be tolerated. Lastly, yes minecraft is a game where you can do EVERYTHING you want, but think, would you really wanna do ANYTHING? Even destroy someone's fun? What about that other guy you just ruined? Was he able to do what he wanted? No, he became a victim, helpless and hopeless. Sure he might be able to secure the next server he makes but the damage is done, you scared him, traumatized him, ruined him. An experience never to be forgotten, a scar never to disappear, and it's not even a good thing. These players are depressing, I hope they find other things to have fun with rather than the destruction of others' freedoms.
Obviously doing something bad just for fun is a wrong thing to do. And it was not hidden that the guy just loved griefing and chaos. Very obvious that "just doing it for the fun" is no excuse or whatsoever, LOL, atleast for bad things that is. The youtube guy didn't break no moral laws, as he didn't defend it, huh?
@@Linkatchu Except Mr Epic's neutral coverage tried to excuse him. At the end he claimed this wasn't harassment and that the ethics of his actions are "debatable". That's simply false. The griefer knows his actions cause distress, yet does it anyways. It's like if someone broke into homes and stole and burnt precious photos just for the sport of it, then having the nerve to tell the home owners that they should have gotten an alarm system. Would honestly be better if he didn't say that last part.
@@Protofallalso him being neutral about it doesn't make the video bad in any way if you mean that. it's just what he chose for the video, because let's be real, it would be pretty unecessary to give out the obvious and i doubt he thinks it's good since he was also gotten by the storm.
if mr epic were to insult the griefer in the video i'm sure it would only make the griefer feel better about himself, why else do you think he wants the clout? having the video be neutral was the better choice imo
Port scanning is also used by pentesters as part of their legitimate job, so it wouldn't be a good idea for any ISP to automatically block that kind of activity. Besides, from the perspective of the ISP, the amount of traffic from a port scan is relatively minuscule (as I understand)
honestly it sounds sad to be possessed by such a compulsive desire to make people's lives worse indiscriminately. i'd have maybe gotten it if he were going after people he thought were awful, whether you deem it good or bad vigilantism, whatever. but thats not the case. if something of "value" isnt lost, then was it really a grief? and he can't argue he isn't tearing down things that genuinely matter to people on a personal level just because its digital, or he could be getting his kicks making single player copies of those servers he mass griefs. people being upset is an inseparable facet to this. if he just wanted to shock and surprise people and cause a scene, there are ways to pursue it that doesn't hurt people. and if he thinks its not a big deal in the long run, that theyre learning a valuable lesson in better protecting their servers _because_ it matters to them- well- alright?? i get the feeling that he made a lot more people needlessly upset with his mass griefing, than in the timeline where he didn't pursue this bizarre dream, where people's servers were only rarely destroyed by this exploit, and more griefers _werent_ given the ease of access to polished griefing tools. but hey, i guess this is another glowing review of his work in his eyes, so im not sure why im typing this. i just find it really depressing that humanity can be like this. and yeah obviously this isnt the worst thing in the world, but the baseline motivations behind it is the kinda thing you dont want applied to how people use political power, or access to resources they really should not have been given for the sake of peace and safety. this aint the one and singular root of evil or whatever, but its still a kind of human motivation thats sad, and its kind of annoying to see mr epic praising this dude in any sense of the word.
fr, i unsubbed seeing him praise this dude. you dont know what kind of memories were lost because this guy decided to nuke hundreds of thousands of minecraft worlds. i wont be here for long, and a few folks may hold onto the worlds we played in. if something like that got nuked after i was gone, itd be reasonable for my friends to try and get this guy permanently banned. he's done so many griefs that it's not only likely, but guaranteed that he's nuked a world that may have been made by/with someone who has passed away. if he wanted to fuck with people for the love of the game, he couldve gone and built creepy structures a la herobrine and left behind a suspicious sign saying that their world is insecure.
I'm not reading all that but griefing isn't griefing if it isn't someone else's work being used actively and potentially there being only one copy of it.
I know you're trying to take a neutral coverage of this, but its simply false to say this isn't trolling, harassment, and that the ethics of his actions are "debatable". He came and destroyed someone's property. Doesn't matter how he feels about it, if he wants to do that, then he has to accept what that means.
The truth that people affected by him and his adversaries can't deal with is that he doesn't care. He enjoys the moment to moment act of griefing, it's nothing personal. You're seething over what this guy essentially considers his morning walk.
@@Klarso basically a “For you, the day I graced your village was the most important day of your life, but for me, it was Tuesday” moment. Of course not to that extent but same idea
i wouldn't be surprised if this griefer is a psychopath, not that he doesn't know it's wrong, he really doesn't seem to process the anger that the owners of those servers feel, or why they would have a problem with him specifically, again, he has been told it's wrong, he knows it's "wrong", but he doesn't really comprehend the train of events that leads to it being "wrong" also many psychopaths take the griefing destroyer path for 1 reason; they like reputations, they do want to be known, however they don't really think for the long term (that's why many psychopaths agree to admitting to the crimes they have commited for like a sandwich or a meal when being interrogated), soooooooo.... want fast reputation, no long term thinking, no emotions (kinda), see? it makes sense right?
@@fabio5d you're right lmfao there are way more psychopaths than many of us think that to say that many psychopaths do find a way to fit into society in some way or another, it is thought that many MMA fighters are psychopaths, a good chunk of doctors are psychopaths, etc etc (if i'm not wrong with the data here, 20% of all psychopaths find a way to fit into the mold of society) not to say they're to be trusted, i remember a story i heard about a psychopath doctor that used to do her job perfectly fine and live a normal life, but at some point she fell in love or something, and to meet her crush (which was a police officer), she started silently and secretly murdering patients by overdosing them on something (i really don't remember the story very well) so yes, psychopaths (whether they choose it or not) do fucked up shit, for the stupidest and most of the time for the SLIGHTEST self-profit (like she was killing people to see a guy for 20 seconds), so it's fair for us to paint them as evil, because they are (even if they unfortunately don't want to be)
I found the language you used to describe this dude to be a bit too forgiving, he's a griefer ruining other peoples fun. He's not some amazing guy, some dedicate palyers. He's just ruining everyone else's fun because he cant enjoy the game by himself. Quite frankly, I find the positive light you tried to spin him in kinda disquieting ngl.
At the end of the day, the only thing this guy is doing is hurting himself. One day he’s going to piss off someone who doesn’t make empty threats and will probably end with him getting doxed. It seems like anonymity is this guys shield, he’s nothing without it.
11:09 so few people buy the game in Russia, because it is not available for purchase over there. In addition to this, the Mojang authentication servers won't allow players in Russia to log in with their legitimate accounts. This is all what I have heard, this was all true at some point in the last couple years, not sure if it is current and up to date information though, it is very hard to fact check this as someone who doesn't speak Russian.
I am from Russia and i never heard about problems with logging in. But purchasing problem is true. Even before it become unavailable to purchase because of luck regional price for the game it was too expensive and a lot of people just didn't want to buy it. For comparison you can buy 10 games with a money they asked for minecraft. Peoples just pirate it and make fun of peoples who actually bought it. Someone even legally copyrighted pirated minecraft launcher in Russia
Anarchy servers were created for people like him, but I guess that's not enough for them. Let's see how they feel if those anarchy servers were shut down...
I mean he is telling people to not run a cracked server, so he is doing a service for Microsoft with the terminator bots. But also showing how dumb those youtubers are for not just whitelisting their premium server.
This person is a psychopath, plain and simple. I don’t care if they tell people to better protect their servers, glorifying what is basically very toxic and deranged behavior and crank it up to overdrive is just completely unacceptable. If anyone finds this sort of thing ‘fun’ then they need serious mental help in my opinion. It’s like bullying but taking it to the logical extreme ff the deep end.
So yes this is wrong and pretty messed up, but it is interesting. This gives me vibes of being scammed or screwed over, but in a less harmful way then say someone taking your credit card. This is basically just a reminder to not trust people and secure your data and servers. I'd probably be pissed off, but again the lesson could've been learned in a harsher way.
I disagree. Memories are important too. Imagine going to work only to find someone broke in. The only thing they touched was your photo album full of family photos and old childhood pets. It's missing. Then imagine the guy being caught, confesses to burning them, and saying he did it for the sport. Then he has the nerve to tell you it wasn't personal. That messes victims up.
Only a matter of time before someone tries to take legal action against him. Not sure how it would pan out but you get enough people this upset, it's bound to happen.
The attention seeking is real. The fact that he’s seeking ANY attention rather than just greifing a specific creator is very telling. Poor guy prolly just needs a hug.
i got a private server i was on griefed by some other guys but they sucked at it, all they did was spam the ore blocks they spawned with everywhere and got banned in like 3 minutes
And over here we have a rare specimen of a dadless basement dweller. Such creatures were often abandoned by their fathers at birth. Without a positive role model to look upon they are often guild less, not knowing how to intergrade into human society. It seems like this one had just retreated into its parent's basement, who knows what will happen to it, most likely it will stay there for most of its remaining lifespan.
Ah I wondered who griefed my server that my friends and I used to stream on. Had exact lava mountains like this. Nothing a little server backup can’t handle.
I used to run an offline server. When you joined, you would not immediately be in the actual survival world. You'd be in a completely different world, stuck floating in space until you authenticated. Command's wouldn't work. You could only authenticate.
Me: _pondering if the guy might have found their way into one of the Hermits' patreon servers_ 4:14: "He found DocM77's HermitCraft copy server used for testing, and griefed that..." Me: "hopy shit he got magic mountain"
He literally lawful evil Like yeah sure, he destroys your server, but then he also provides help on how to prevent it, and he isn’t even being malicious about greifing others, it’s literally his lifestyle
that is why Greyhats hate each other. Where you just got the problem and the one causing it is offering the solution of the problem he caused. Basically what every Grey Hat hacker does
If he wasn't malicious he'd just tell them that their server was compromised without the griefing bit. There is literally no reasonable moral justification for that pathetic behaviour. His lifestyle is just destroying other people's fun? If that's his lifestyle then it just makes it sadder.
What an absolute psychopath. Especially how they delude themself into thinking that destroying other people’s hard work doesn’t give him a dopamine rush and instead he’s doing it for a “good cause”. 🙄
I really hope his own personal security of his information is safe, because legitimately at this point i can see someone trying sonething a little more personal then an email if people find out who he is.
it's the player's fault for disabling online mode for the server so that they can play with cracked accounts. altho I agree, mojang should at least try to educate people why offline mode and pirating Minecraft is a dumb idea
I know someone griefed a try of moving friends mapmaking server, but the person that was responsible for moving didn't really cared and the server was griefed in first week, we are now using essential, cause it is mostly one person's passion project (he's building backrooms for over a year now)
no, i get it. he *is* actually trying to help people. He's actually getting Mojang's attention. it should be the default that servers use a whitelist. There should be more protection against this kind of stuff by default in vanilla servers. This is a terrible way to do it, but it is a way. Even if this isnt his goal at all, it is still an action that may have an indirect affect that helps the community as a whole.
Or he could just do the same thing without all the lava casts? You know just tell them that their server was compromised? You make it sound like the grief is this unavoidable bad deed for the greater good when it's just a bad deed, full stop.
Despite people may hate him. Id say he has got some serious dedication that not even worst griefs I know don't have. Running Cracked or none whitelisted servers was always a major risk, so it was only a matter of time until a exploit was created.
I have never seen the Comments section so divided over the moral ethicacy of a 3d block game. Yeah, griefing unsuspecting servers is cruel and claining it's "punishment" is a bankrupt excuse. At the same time, there are more than likely a small number of servers that do questionable things that need to be given a metaphorical kick to the balls.
This all seems so pointless. Like dude isn’t trying to prove a point to some scammers or Microsoft or whatever. He’s just a sadist who has fun destroying other people’s stuff. Like it’s not for the love of trolling because then he wouldn’t automate it
For as bad as his methods are, it does show the cracks of Minecraft security. I think it's like how hackers are able to get into google backdoors, then are able to explain how they did it so it can be patched. I think that it's loud and very destructive, but it will be able to fix these cracks. It will want them to go harder and more destructive, which will help in putting more security measures to make the game safer. It is nice that he provides tips to help people to ensure it doesn't happen again, even though maybe years of work is now gone or having to be set back to an old autosave can be devastating to more sensitive players. I hope that these flaws are fixed and methods are improved to ensure a safer gaming experience. If you think about it, this guy only wants to grief and make lava towers, imagine if this tool was given to someone who wants to do way more harm. To find and stalk youtubers, friends, strangers, to leak information, to harass or even hurt people IRL. It can be way more scary if this tool was given to someone else and improved on in other means. I think we are actually lucky that this guy just wants to grief people and collect hate mail.
Similar tools exist and are being used by other people. Also-- the "cracks in Minecraft security" are mostly people disabling authentication (bad idea) so that they can play with pirated ("cracked") versions of Minecraft.
@@tjb3171 I was subtly mentioning them, but I wanted to bundle them in to the whole of minecraft. I mean, he did get into Tommy's server which is base and paid MC. A majority of the servers he goes into are cracked, but there is servers that aren't and he still got in. At the end, even cracked servers would need these types of security too.
A funny story. I had watched your past video about skynet bots and the griefers the day before Tommy's server got griefed. When Tommy posted the video, it was such irony to see it was them.
Jeez, he clearly has no empathy at all. He could at least apologize to people who are clearly upset, yet the thought obviously doesn't even occur to him. He's definitely a psycho- or sociopath. Like he'll even seem to be sympathetic to people who are really upset yet doesn't know how to be compassionate to them.
Kinda feel like this video is giving him exactly what he wants, though i guess it spreads some awareness to some people as how not to get greifed by him, so idk how to feel about it, weird stuff
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This man is unfathomably based
The unemployed friend on a Tuesday afternoon
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@@TheMisterEpic At least like bros comment
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if this dude used his passion for a job it would be crazy
crazy you assume he doesn't have a job, with a skill like that, he probably does in tech
Crazy you assume a "Job" makes a person who they are.
@@40Ccents Give or take that guy's probably under 18 and jobless, in this day and age it's much easier for teens to learn how to program, and in the case of people like them, hacking. I don't think any reasonable adult would think spending hours and hours programming just to grief some minecraft servers is a good idea, at that point in life people just have better stuff to do with their time
@@nullieee if you believe that, like utterly and truly believe that a functional adult is just incapable of wasting their time on something as trivial as this, you live under a rock at the bottom of the mariana trench.
Job at the FBI lol
he should put that energy into destroying pay 2 win servers
get this man a true
The ways he destroys servers would not work on P2W servers due to them being in online mode or having an auth me plugin.
@@Th3VoidOfDarkn3ss Why does he need offline mode? Is it part of the exploit, or just because he is using cracked?
@@derkevevin if online mode is set to false and no authme plugin then all he needs to do is take a sample of the players that connect to that server, then with a hacked client he can "change" his name without booting up the game everytime until he gets to a nick with OP permissions.
I actually got bots trying to connect with multiple nicks of actual players, then in 2 seconds spams a series of game rules (to see if that account has op and to make more damage griefing) the video mentioned about "ogur" (ithink) talks more in depth but is basically the same video as this one just another angle.
@@Th3VoidOfDarkn3ss Nvm it was mentioned in the video, I forgot that without plugins in offline mode you can just log in as anyone 😂
This comment section is so wildly divided, with like a 50/50 split of some people being like "this is hilarious/based, rock on bro" and the other half being "this dude really sucks, why are you glorifying him"
I don't really have feelings on the guy as much as I do on the comments, this is GOLD.
My private world, long term lets play, 6 years old, I've been doing sparse backups on it, I recently did a lot of work in it for a video, I spent 3 solid days building something. Logged out for the night, came back and it was griefed, I lost 3 days of work. I never had a whitelist because no one else I thought had access to my server. Very demotivating, I just came back from a burn out too.
It's a single player server, I live at 2 houses so I just host it on a laptop so I can join my world anywhere.
Pick up the pieces,and learn about server security from this 😊 It may be depressing as hell at first,so I feel for you.
@@lockdot2 You can setup a VPN like Tailscale (based on WireGuard but handles the important stuff for you). This lets you connect to the server from anywhere, while not exposing it to the public internet.
@@lockdot2 Ive done this for years but with mods, and never had issues. Rip if your on bedrock tho
@@CorpsesReborn It's a lot easier to get away with this on modded worlds since they need every mod installed to be able to join. For most griefers that do this it's easier to just ignore them for vanilla worlds instead.
I believe the fact that we have reached the point where griefing has become automated in the best selling game of all time says less about the lengths people will go to grief on Minecraft servers and moreso just how faulty Minecraft's server security systems are. Like how do you respond to a griefer notorious for nuking 150+ servers a day with an automated bot system by banning them for a couple weeks for "offensive language"? That is insane!!
yeah I agree, that is pretty ridiculous. At the same time, those servers are privately run, and it's the server owner that disabled authentication so that pirated ("cracked") versions of Minecraft can join.
Mojang/Microsoft definitely should do a better job of not only punishing these people but also educate smaller server owners on how to protect themselves... a message in chat whenever an OP-ed account joins telling them "cracked servers are dangerous, please enable online mode (disable this message in server.config)" would be very helpful.
Another issue I reckon is stopping them from moderating properly is the amount of backlash that they receive every time they tried. If it wasn't for chat reporting/bans (which, by the way, was one of THE most controversial updates) they wouldn't have been able to ban them for a few weeks at all.
Are you stupid? Did you not just watch the video? A very VERY large portion are CRACKED Minecraft servers, they are against the law and often run outdated Minecraft versions. No wonder they aren't protected.
@@tjb3171 me and my friends had to learn the hard way, lol. luckily we had been constantly making backups so it was just a minor annoyance at most but we patched our shit up immediately
How about talking about the shtly made plugins isntead…
Can i join him?
My friends run a private cracked server, and I've told them a MILLION times that an authentication plugin is important. Apparently it's "too annoying to use" or something lol
and this is why some people need to be griefed
true, just whitelist IPs.
@@gorlix its cracked, meaning offline mode. That means it's disconnected to Mojang's authentication servers (so that pirated versions of the game can join)
So, anyone can join as any username. If I whitelist myself, for example, anyone can just tell the server that they're me and join as an operator.
@@tjb3171 what do you even mean? Whitelist your IP and IPs of your friends and you're good to go. Oh wait your buddies are gullible and don't know basic functions of port forwarding
@@gorlix you cant whitelist IPs, only usernames. You're confusing it with /ban and /banip
this is the saddest thing I have ever seen these mfs must be depressed as hell irl
how about it's mojangs fault, theyre the idiots who cant make secure game
@@dangychoice7800 Never said it wasn't they were just pointing out how sad it was they do this all day long
Everyone plays the game their own way, He just enjoys the breaking part of mining most lmao.
@@cephalonbob15yeah but hacking in to other people’s private servers is not part of the game
@@Topgglerd Yuh uh
Even if he claims to do what he does to "help" people "learn" about server security, it's still a shitty thing to do and he knows it. No one should be taught a lesson by being punished for something they didn't know about.
Agreed. Sadly, most of this comments section idolizes him and calls him "based." Nothing about griefing people and their friends for clout is based. There are also many other ways to teach someone about server security. You don't have to destroy their server.
Agreed. If he really did care about that, he could just log into those servers with Skynet and spam normal signs across the map with a help website URL.
Its like going to peoples homes and burning them down for not having fire sprinklers.
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sure for the greefing maby but god DAMN are his exploits good
He's just doing it for fame so yeahhhhh
He'll probably end up dying alone one day if he continues doing this.
@@capyfy ok I dislike that person too but this is extremely messed up to say.
@puny2103 it's not really messed up at all... unless you're afraid of the term "death" but this video is about minecraft stuff containing exploitation which is intended for older audiences
I didn't mean anything harmful
@@capyfy I understand. I just was kinda shocked but now that you've explained everything I understand ya meant nothing truly bad. you're just talking about how miserable they'll be for years.
You make him sound way too cool. From everything you said, he just seems like a selfish pos with nothing better to do than ruin other peoples fun. And you can't say he's just doing it for the love of the sport either. He literally spams his socials on his griefs, does yt videos and garners an active community on discord, etc. And honestly I don't even know which is sadder: resorting to this to be part of a community, or needing to do this for his own sens of self worth. Overall pathetic as all hell.
@@luh034 it's really sad that some people are on his side
I am surprised people are so mad over people being stupid and unable to properly secure their servers, its their fault, he is just spreading awareness of that
and he is quite impressive at that
it's like spreading awareness of call scammer by call scamming people
I would be satisfied if someone griefed this guys world
@@Lapps_do you attack someone just to spread awareness that they should have learned self defence?
most people: eh, this 2d block game is fun, but maybe i should get a job instead...
these guys: nah we'll pass
it’s 3d my gamer
This is Minecraft not terraria
true, this video was actually about terraria the footage was made using ai picked clips, ignore the footage
@@henrycrystal9740thanks for keeping the truth out here king 👑
@@Lethal_Spoon its 2d no? i mean we live in a 3d world but only see 2d lol
If only Mojang changed whitelist to enabled by default...
I'm waiting an exploit, similar to Log4shell. Then the fun will actually begin.
a exploit like log4shell will probably never happen again because the way log4shell worked and the 0 day exploit it used does not work anymore
Default whitelist would probably confuse some people who don't know much about server hosting and just want to play with their friends
@sketched7 wah wah if you want to run a server you gotta actually pay attention, your fault otherwise
@@Hellscaped I know, im just saying that most people would just download the jar and run it without doing anything other than install some mods or plugins
@sketched7 it's much better than leaving them open to this
Though the griefing brings awareness to ignorant Server owners , I think doing something like this with no morals what so ever is really bad. The amount of time that youtubers, builders , server owners spent on it all goes to nothing?
This is really psychotic.
Yeah. I don't get why My Epic thinks the ethics are debatable just because the griefer doesn't have anything in particular against the victims. He came and destroyed their property. Simple as that.
copium
Someone just live to ruin other people fun. Imagine if there's a server where one of their friend has passed and their build is griefed, the amount of regret would be in immeasurable. I wouldn't mind if this happened in Anarchy server, but in your own private server? Hell no.
If it was that important they would have a backup and the server whitelisted and wouldn't leave their server in offline mode.
@@gyroninjamodder, what if they're just like most of them, unsuspecting victims that don't know of the exploit, and ways to stop it.
what if *scenario that has like a 1%, if that, chance of ever happening or ever have happened* whoa...
@stirrain It's not an exploit for someone to join a server without a whitelist. If the server is in offline mode accounts are not password protected so it is hardly an exploit for someone to login as you.
@@gyroninjamodder the server finding exploit, a random person who knows nothing about server security wouldn't think that someone would find their server without having the ip.
"Not personal or biases in any way"
- has a literal algorithm DEDICATED to finding and destroying youtuber servers.
- has bombed the same server not once, not twice, but over thrice.
this is just confusing.
I agree with this comment
"He's not doing it for the reactions" he literally spams his email to get the victims' reactions, yes he is you midwit
fr 🙏
As much as you say that he's griefing just for fun, it's still really wrong to do so. It's like punching someone and kicking him at his back until he vomits blood, and then telling him "you should've learned how to defend yourelf". It's fucked up man. And saying "he just does this for fun", yeah I guess he just does it for fun, but the effect of his actions is still damaging. It's like burning an entire forest and getting caught by the police, then you say "hey, it's just for fun! I don't intend to destroy wildlife!" ... but like, that's what you did. That's what you did exactly, destroy wildlide, ruin an entire forest. "But you should've secured the area!" Well that doesn't mean you should destroy it immediately just because there's no law saying that it should be watched. There is still a moral law and you broke it. Not everything has to be put into a paper to be considered an existing law. Likewise, saying "you should've whitelisted" is just a pathetic reason to such damaging acts. This should not be tolerated.
Lastly, yes minecraft is a game where you can do EVERYTHING you want, but think, would you really wanna do ANYTHING? Even destroy someone's fun? What about that other guy you just ruined? Was he able to do what he wanted? No, he became a victim, helpless and hopeless. Sure he might be able to secure the next server he makes but the damage is done, you scared him, traumatized him, ruined him. An experience never to be forgotten, a scar never to disappear, and it's not even a good thing.
These players are depressing, I hope they find other things to have fun with rather than the destruction of others' freedoms.
Obviously doing something bad just for fun is a wrong thing to do. And it was not hidden that the guy just loved griefing and chaos. Very obvious that "just doing it for the fun" is no excuse or whatsoever, LOL, atleast for bad things that is. The youtube guy didn't break no moral laws, as he didn't defend it, huh?
@@Linkatchu Except Mr Epic's neutral coverage tried to excuse him. At the end he claimed this wasn't harassment and that the ethics of his actions are "debatable". That's simply false. The griefer knows his actions cause distress, yet does it anyways.
It's like if someone broke into homes and stole and burnt precious photos just for the sport of it, then having the nerve to tell the home owners that they should have gotten an alarm system. Would honestly be better if he didn't say that last part.
@@Protofallit didn't, he just said it's impressive
@@Protofallalso him being neutral about it doesn't make the video bad in any way if you mean that. it's just what he chose for the video, because let's be real, it would be pretty unecessary to give out the obvious and i doubt he thinks it's good since he was also gotten by the storm.
if mr epic were to insult the griefer in the video i'm sure it would only make the griefer feel better about himself, why else do you think he wants the clout? having the video be neutral was the better choice imo
when is the man going to get blacklisted by their isp for effectively port scanning for minecraft servers?
probably using a server hoster that looks the other way.
What about blacklisted from society?
Port scanning is also used by pentesters as part of their legitimate job, so it wouldn't be a good idea for any ISP to automatically block that kind of activity. Besides, from the perspective of the ISP, the amount of traffic from a port scan is relatively minuscule (as I understand)
@@EvanG529 cry me a river
@@EvanG529He already is.
But that doesn't matter because they can't stop him in Offline mode without mods.
honestly it sounds sad to be possessed by such a compulsive desire to make people's lives worse indiscriminately. i'd have maybe gotten it if he were going after people he thought were awful, whether you deem it good or bad vigilantism, whatever. but thats not the case.
if something of "value" isnt lost, then was it really a grief? and he can't argue he isn't tearing down things that genuinely matter to people on a personal level just because its digital, or he could be getting his kicks making single player copies of those servers he mass griefs.
people being upset is an inseparable facet to this. if he just wanted to shock and surprise people and cause a scene, there are ways to pursue it that doesn't hurt people.
and if he thinks its not a big deal in the long run, that theyre learning a valuable lesson in better protecting their servers _because_ it matters to them- well- alright?? i get the feeling that he made a lot more people needlessly upset with his mass griefing, than in the timeline where he didn't pursue this bizarre dream, where people's servers were only rarely destroyed by this exploit, and more griefers _werent_ given the ease of access to polished griefing tools.
but hey, i guess this is another glowing review of his work in his eyes, so im not sure why im typing this. i just find it really depressing that humanity can be like this. and yeah obviously this isnt the worst thing in the world, but the baseline motivations behind it is the kinda thing you dont want applied to how people use political power, or access to resources they really should not have been given for the sake of peace and safety. this aint the one and singular root of evil or whatever, but its still a kind of human motivation thats sad, and its kind of annoying to see mr epic praising this dude in any sense of the word.
fr, i unsubbed seeing him praise this dude. you dont know what kind of memories were lost because this guy decided to nuke hundreds of thousands of minecraft worlds. i wont be here for long, and a few folks may hold onto the worlds we played in. if something like that got nuked after i was gone, itd be reasonable for my friends to try and get this guy permanently banned. he's done so many griefs that it's not only likely, but guaranteed that he's nuked a world that may have been made by/with someone who has passed away.
if he wanted to fuck with people for the love of the game, he couldve gone and built creepy structures a la herobrine and left behind a suspicious sign saying that their world is insecure.
I'm not reading all that but griefing isn't griefing if it isn't someone else's work being used actively and potentially there being only one copy of it.
I know you're trying to take a neutral coverage of this, but its simply false to say this isn't trolling, harassment, and that the ethics of his actions are "debatable". He came and destroyed someone's property. Doesn't matter how he feels about it, if he wants to do that, then he has to accept what that means.
He's menrally ill trying to justify his actions as good instead of admitting that they are wrong.
The truth that people affected by him and his adversaries can't deal with is that he doesn't care. He enjoys the moment to moment act of griefing, it's nothing personal. You're seething over what this guy essentially considers his morning walk.
@@Klarso basically a “For you, the day I graced your village was the most important day of your life, but for me, it was Tuesday” moment. Of course not to that extent but same idea
@@netherwarrior6113 yeah
Nobody cares about his feelings if his *morning walk* is to upset people and ruin their work.
i wouldn't be surprised if this griefer is a psychopath, not that he doesn't know it's wrong, he really doesn't seem to process the anger that the owners of those servers feel, or why they would have a problem with him specifically, again, he has been told it's wrong, he knows it's "wrong", but he doesn't really comprehend the train of events that leads to it being "wrong"
also many psychopaths take the griefing destroyer path for 1 reason; they like reputations, they do want to be known, however they don't really think for the long term (that's why many psychopaths agree to admitting to the crimes they have commited for like a sandwich or a meal when being interrogated), soooooooo.... want fast reputation, no long term thinking, no emotions (kinda), see? it makes sense right?
Well if that's the case then it's for the better that he's just doing it on minecraft
@@fabio5d you're right lmfao
there are way more psychopaths than many of us think
that to say that many psychopaths do find a way to fit into society in some way or another, it is thought that many MMA fighters are psychopaths, a good chunk of doctors are psychopaths, etc etc
(if i'm not wrong with the data here, 20% of all psychopaths find a way to fit into the mold of society)
not to say they're to be trusted, i remember a story i heard about a psychopath doctor that used to do her job perfectly fine and live a normal life, but at some point she fell in love or something, and to meet her crush (which was a police officer), she started silently and secretly murdering patients by overdosing them on something (i really don't remember the story very well)
so yes, psychopaths (whether they choose it or not) do fucked up shit, for the stupidest and most of the time for the SLIGHTEST self-profit (like she was killing people to see a guy for 20 seconds), so it's fair for us to paint them as evil, because they are (even if they unfortunately don't want to be)
pretty interesting observation, wouldn't be surprised if he is
I found the language you used to describe this dude to be a bit too forgiving, he's a griefer ruining other peoples fun. He's not some amazing guy, some dedicate palyers. He's just ruining everyone else's fun because he cant enjoy the game by himself. Quite frankly, I find the positive light you tried to spin him in kinda disquieting ngl.
Every owners biggest nightmare
Lmao
Hell nah, Do you realize how much of a feind you have to be to destroy 100 servers a day?
honestly you gotta at least give him props for that flowchart
bro is just griefing for the love of the game
Lowkey respect, but also still fucked lol
Misunderstood villain? Or a genuine menace
i don't know if this is better or worse than just regular griefing
@@Flairis respect? how tf u respect that
Don’t forget being a dickhead
Free Time its a Incredible Thing on both Good and Bad Hands
At the end of the day, the only thing this guy is doing is hurting himself. One day he’s going to piss off someone who doesn’t make empty threats and will probably end with him getting doxed. It seems like anonymity is this guys shield, he’s nothing without it.
11:09 so few people buy the game in Russia, because it is not available for purchase over there. In addition to this, the Mojang authentication servers won't allow players in Russia to log in with their legitimate accounts. This is all what I have heard, this was all true at some point in the last couple years, not sure if it is current and up to date information though, it is very hard to fact check this as someone who doesn't speak Russian.
I am from Russia and i never heard about problems with logging in. But purchasing problem is true. Even before it become unavailable to purchase because of luck regional price for the game it was too expensive and a lot of people just didn't want to buy it. For comparison you can buy 10 games with a money they asked for minecraft. Peoples just pirate it and make fun of peoples who actually bought it. Someone even legally copyrighted pirated minecraft launcher in Russia
@@Muchalochka thanks for the insight.
The silver lining is teaching opsec to server owners
This guy is just sad, massive skill issue for ruining other players' fun
Blud has more programming skill but cant even beat ender dragon without hax. Massive skill issue.
Yeah
Griefers ruin everyone's fun
Anarchy servers were created for people like him, but I guess that's not enough for them. Let's see how they feel if those anarchy servers were shut down...
don't give attention to terrible people
I’m considering unsubscribing for praising this guy at all
"I don't grief for good, and I don't grief for evil. I just grief!"
I mean he is telling people to not run a cracked server, so he is doing a service for Microsoft with the terminator bots. But also showing how dumb those youtubers are for not just whitelisting their premium server.
This person is a psychopath, plain and simple. I don’t care if they tell people to better protect their servers, glorifying what is basically very toxic and deranged behavior and crank it up to overdrive is just completely unacceptable. If anyone finds this sort of thing ‘fun’ then they need serious mental help in my opinion. It’s like bullying but taking it to the logical extreme ff the deep end.
So yes this is wrong and pretty messed up, but it is interesting. This gives me vibes of being scammed or screwed over, but in a less harmful way then say someone taking your credit card. This is basically just a reminder to not trust people and secure your data and servers. I'd probably be pissed off, but again the lesson could've been learned in a harsher way.
I disagree. Memories are important too. Imagine going to work only to find someone broke in. The only thing they touched was your photo album full of family photos and old childhood pets. It's missing. Then imagine the guy being caught, confesses to burning them, and saying he did it for the sport. Then he has the nerve to tell you it wasn't personal.
That messes victims up.
Imagine if he used all the time he spent griefing looking for a job
Probably doesn't need a job. They are probably a freelance programmer.
@@CringePotato hes most likely under 18 and prob infact living in their parents house
@@WhitShironah I’m thinking mid 30s with nothing better to do
0:45 Should Have Add " no life"
I like how this is one of the rare videos of his that isn’t just irrelevant and random stuff that has nothing to do with the title.
Only a matter of time before someone tries to take legal action against him. Not sure how it would pan out but you get enough people this upset, it's bound to happen.
This guy is the definition of "some men just want to watch the world burn"
The attention seeking is real. The fact that he’s seeking ANY attention rather than just greifing a specific creator is very telling. Poor guy prolly just needs a hug.
And employment
i got a private server i was on griefed by some other guys but they sucked at it, all they did was spam the ore blocks they spawned with everywhere and got banned in like 3 minutes
And over here we have a rare specimen of a dadless basement dweller. Such creatures were often abandoned by their fathers at birth. Without a positive role model to look upon they are often guild less, not knowing how to intergrade into human society. It seems like this one had just retreated into its parent's basement, who knows what will happen to it, most likely it will stay there for most of its remaining lifespan.
So he's a jerk.
Yes
bro really needs to get a life outside of hunting down random Minecraft servers and greifing them for no reason
i love lava casts theyre so hilariously evil
I'm Glad You Like Being A Shit Person.
Man, I'm glad I saw Fit's video on 5:53's topic. Feels like a nice continuation from that.
Ah I wondered who griefed my server that my friends and I used to stream on. Had exact lava mountains like this. Nothing a little server backup can’t handle.
I used to run an offline server. When you joined, you would not immediately be in the actual survival world. You'd be in a completely different world, stuck floating in space until you authenticated. Command's wouldn't work. You could only authenticate.
Me: _pondering if the guy might have found their way into one of the Hermits' patreon servers_
4:14: "He found DocM77's HermitCraft copy server used for testing, and griefed that..."
Me: "hopy shit he got magic mountain"
giving the victims a flowchart is like giving a gunshot survivor a bulletproof vest and my god is it funny
“Some men just want to watch the world burn” - The dark knight.
He literally lawful evil
Like yeah sure, he destroys your server, but then he also provides help on how to prevent it, and he isn’t even being malicious about greifing others, it’s literally his lifestyle
Nah that's a cope to try justify his actions. This guy is miserable and a terrible person
"Haha I just gouged out your eyeballs but this is a good lesson for you to take self defense classes"
that is why Greyhats hate each other. Where you just got the problem and the one causing it is offering the solution of the problem he caused. Basically what every Grey Hat hacker does
If he wasn't malicious he'd just tell them that their server was compromised without the griefing bit. There is literally no reasonable moral justification for that pathetic behaviour. His lifestyle is just destroying other people's fun? If that's his lifestyle then it just makes it sadder.
@@rickywilliams8689 unironically thinking that being amoral is cool or a good thing in 2024 nearly 2025
The lengths that some people go to just to cause chaos, especially in Minecraft...
Anyone with a determined and uncontrolled passion for a project will seek to all ends to see it complete.
What an absolute psychopath. Especially how they delude themself into thinking that destroying other people’s hard work doesn’t give him a dopamine rush and instead he’s doing it for a “good cause”. 🙄
I really hope his own personal security of his information is safe, because legitimately at this point i can see someone trying sonething a little more personal then an email if people find out who he is.
Bro took the rule NO Greifing to a whole new level
fry his router lol
Yes
So by his logic, if he get doxxed its fair because it will teach him a lesson on cybersecurity.
*basically the Minecraft devil*
I feel like his opinion of griefing would change is his own house was covered in fire
He got a friend of mine's server that I was on, and destroyed all of our bases and the spawn chunks
well learn to secure your shit then go on your merry way
Hellsaped You Are Very Rude.
@@Hellscaped Wasn't my server? There wasnt anything I could've done?
Hire this guy to destroy pay to win servers
sadly most p2w servers have half decent security
@@tjb3171well yeah probably he can't just force op in many of those but lavacasting is still a good option
Mad respect for this guy honestly
Mojang doesn't care players
it's the player's fault for disabling online mode for the server so that they can play with cracked accounts. altho I agree, mojang should at least try to educate people why offline mode and pirating Minecraft is a dumb idea
@@tjb3171 there's a warning if you turn off online mode.
@tjb3171 I mean why they take a action
They are so negligent that they are being sued for it lol
remember kids, always wear protection
I know someone griefed a try of moving friends mapmaking server, but the person that was responsible for moving didn't really cared and the server was griefed in first week, we are now using essential, cause it is mostly one person's passion project (he's building backrooms for over a year now)
True definition of "If my life sucks and I can't be happy, then no one can!!!!"
This guy reminds me of the golden days of Team Avolation.
That Wasn't Golden
Woah, that guy must have a really, really sad life, maybe bullying, abuse... who knows
1:40
Mountains of Lava needs a customer service role!
Make Mojang hire this guy!
no, i get it. he *is* actually trying to help people. He's actually getting Mojang's attention. it should be the default that servers use a whitelist. There should be more protection against this kind of stuff by default in vanilla servers. This is a terrible way to do it, but it is a way. Even if this isnt his goal at all, it is still an action that may have an indirect affect that helps the community as a whole.
*effect
But destroying peoples hard work is to far
And even possibly servers feeler with nostalgia that are years ld
@@Ominous_bthere is a line somewhere, but it is hidden in the fog
Or he could just do the same thing without all the lava casts? You know just tell them that their server was compromised? You make it sound like the grief is this unavoidable bad deed for the greater good when it's just a bad deed, full stop.
Whitelist should be default for Minecraft servers because these type of people that don’t have anything else todo is their worst nightmare.
Bro is a Minecraft supervillain
he probably doesnt actually do it to teach a lesson, he just does it cause hes got nothing better to do and is bored
Despite people may hate him. Id say he has got some serious dedication that not even worst griefs I know don't have. Running Cracked or none whitelisted servers was always a major risk, so it was only a matter of time until a exploit was created.
I have never seen the Comments section so divided over the moral ethicacy of a 3d block game.
Yeah, griefing unsuspecting servers is cruel and claining it's "punishment" is a bankrupt excuse. At the same time, there are more than likely a small number of servers that do questionable things that need to be given a metaphorical kick to the balls.
yeah man lets crush 10,000 servers so we can get the bad 10 servers!!
This all seems so pointless. Like dude isn’t trying to prove a point to some scammers or Microsoft or whatever. He’s just a sadist who has fun destroying other people’s stuff. Like it’s not for the love of trolling because then he wouldn’t automate it
I'm not even sure that we're lucky our server wasn't griefed by this guy but Fifth Column instead 💀
5th is awful and pathetic too
Also known as the 5th birthday
For as bad as his methods are, it does show the cracks of Minecraft security. I think it's like how hackers are able to get into google backdoors, then are able to explain how they did it so it can be patched.
I think that it's loud and very destructive, but it will be able to fix these cracks. It will want them to go harder and more destructive, which will help in putting more security measures to make the game safer. It is nice that he provides tips to help people to ensure it doesn't happen again, even though maybe years of work is now gone or having to be set back to an old autosave can be devastating to more sensitive players. I hope that these flaws are fixed and methods are improved to ensure a safer gaming experience. If you think about it, this guy only wants to grief and make lava towers, imagine if this tool was given to someone who wants to do way more harm. To find and stalk youtubers, friends, strangers, to leak information, to harass or even hurt people IRL. It can be way more scary if this tool was given to someone else and improved on in other means.
I think we are actually lucky that this guy just wants to grief people and collect hate mail.
Similar tools exist and are being used by other people.
Also-- the "cracks in Minecraft security" are mostly people disabling authentication (bad idea) so that they can play with pirated ("cracked") versions of Minecraft.
@@tjb3171 I was subtly mentioning them, but I wanted to bundle them in to the whole of minecraft. I mean, he did get into Tommy's server which is base and paid MC. A majority of the servers he goes into are cracked, but there is servers that aren't and he still got in. At the end, even cracked servers would need these types of security too.
Just saw FitMC make a video how a player found out how to check if dungeon chests and mineshafts could have a stash in them. Nice video 👍
I wonder what life he had because there has to be some reason to do it
"upsetting the balance of 2b2t" lmao its literally an anarchy server
take a shot every time TheMisterEpic says "Griefed" or "Griefer".
This is why Minecraft, both Java and Bedrock, needs manual saving, not autosaves.
you know, im doing pretty good in life afterall
A funny story. I had watched your past video about skynet bots and the griefers the day before Tommy's server got griefed. When Tommy posted the video, it was such irony to see it was them.
Not Funny
this guy could really use an actually productive hobby
I'm impressed, hopefully this makes mojang change the default server settings
who has this much time
Jeez, he clearly has no empathy at all. He could at least apologize to people who are clearly upset, yet the thought obviously doesn't even occur to him. He's definitely a psycho- or sociopath. Like he'll even seem to be sympathetic to people who are really upset yet doesn't know how to be compassionate to them.
Kinda feel like this video is giving him exactly what he wants, though i guess it spreads some awareness to some people as how not to get greifed by him, so idk how to feel about it, weird stuff
This is bad but the alternative would probably be him becoming a ruthless hacker/scammer
When Burning Spice Cookie plays Minecraft:
Are realms safe? Or is it just servers.