What's My Line? - Joan Crawford; PANEL: Tony Randall, Suzy Knickerbocker (Jul 3, 1966)
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- Опубліковано 31 січ 2015
- MYSTERY GUEST: Joan Crawford
PANEL: Arlene Francis, Tony Randall, Suzy Knickerbocker, Bennett Cerf
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This is the last of 5 appearances by Joan Crawford as MG. By the mid-60's, Crawford's career was rapidly diminishing, evaporating completely by 1972. Nonetheless, she considered herself still to be a big star. In 1969, she was reduced to playing in a made for TV movie, a pilot for Rod Serling's "Night Gallery," where she played in one of three segments in the film. She was shocked and then furious that the director for her segment was a 22-year-old novice directing his first commercial project. In response to her complaints, the producer asked her to be patient and give him a chance, which she did. According to a biography of Crawford, she said, "When I began to work with Steven, I understood everything. It was immediately obvious to me, and probably everyone else, that here was a young genius. I thought maybe more experience was important, but then I thought of all of those experienced directors who didn't have Steven's intuitive inspiration and who just kept repeating the same old routine performances. That was called "experience." I knew then that Steven Spielberg had a brilliant future ahead of him. Hollywood doesn't always recognize talent, but Steven's was not going to be overlooked. I told him so in a note I wrote him. I wrote to Rod Serling, too. I was so grateful that he had approved Steven as the director. I told him he had been totally right." Crawford lived long enough to see Spielberg achieve phenomenal success, and the two were friends until her death in 1977.
Joan Crawford was on the Board of Directors of Peps-Cola through her marriage to Alfred Steele. In 1973 she was forced to retire from the company.
***** Thank you! :) I like odd facts and "worthless knowledge". :)
Nothing regarding Joan is "worthless"!
+Patrick3183 That's true.
@@Patrick3183 She was an awful human being.
@@lisad2701 That is part of the story. And she was not to give her version. So even not denying the book, I will continue to admire Joan Crawford.
"Balsa Bill" Yerkes made a career out of all aapects of surfing, and apparently is still around at age 74, with a surf shop in Florida.
I wonder if he renamed his shop Cerf Shark.
Finally Joan Crawford. It's been a while since Bette Davis was on, but I knew Joan would have to be on again to even it up. Neither could have the other be on more times.
WOW!! I just finished watching an episode of The Lucy Show (which I've been watching for the first time over the last few weeks). Tonight I saw an episode of Joan Crawford (in color) playing herself, and then I come on here and the first episode I come to that I haven't seen yet is THIS one. WOW
The cast and crew did four more episodes of "What's My Line?" in black & white, after June 26, 1966.
July 10, 1966 (Live)
July 17, 1966 (AIR: September 4, 1966)
July 17, 1966 (Live)
July 24, 1966 (Live)
Then they took a 6-week break, and when they came back, they were now in color!
Thank you so much for uploading all of these!
My pleasure-- glad you're enjoying them. :)
Tony is absolutely hilarious, when he asked if Joan Crawford was a boy, that was hilarious..
With a name like Flossie Malott, if there still would have been a free guess at the start of a round of play, I would have guessed that the second challenger was either a dentist or a dental hygienist.
Thank you to whoever is posting these videos. I really appreciate it. I discovered them on UA-cam and absoluetly love the show and the panel now. Really makes me wish I was born into this era.
I'm so glad you're enjoying the videos, Tracy. It's an addictive show with over 750 episodes surviving, so beware! :)
Without Dorothy, it seems so sad.
I feel the same way. Dorothy was the most dedicated panelist.
Since Joan Crawford did everything: Comedies, dramas, silents, horrors, science fiction, action-adventure, film noir, musicals, westerns, she danced, sang and acted it isnt fair that John keeps saying shes a dramatic actress that was best known for Dramas. He is clearly only thinking of Mildred Pierce but if you went to the movies from 1928-1932 and seen her in Our Dancing Daughters or Dancing Lady or Dance Fools Dance, you would know her for other things. Joan did it all, she was a master of her craft
At 21:49, Joan Crawford makes a pun concerning her tone of voice and Franchot Tone. Crawford made 7 films with Franchot Tone and he was her second husband for about 4 years in the 1930s (Douglas Fairbanks Jr was her first). After their divorce, they stayed on good terms at least at some points. A few years before this episode, he asked her to remarry but she declined. Nonetheless, soon after this episode, Tone, a chain smoker, was diagnosed with lung cancer, and Crawford helped him out, even making his funeral arrangements after his death in 1968.
I believe Joan helped him out financially, also. I do not believe the book Mommy Dearest. I think Ms. Crawford was a very determined, aggressive, self-made lady that enjoyed the casting couch with upcoming young men/women. Not for just sex, they say she would take them under her wing and assist their acting. Barbara Stanwyck was another classy strong sophisticated lady. God bless them and their efforts in assisting in WWII!
She lived and made New York City her home full-time, the last 20 years of her life from 1955-1977 until her death.
Bennett asks at 21:00 "Do you swizzle Pepsi-Cola occasionally?" I can't recall ever hearing the word used as a verb for "drink, imbibe" before. As a noun, it means a kind of rum cocktail, such as the Green Swizzle in one of the Wodehouse short stories. A swizzle stick is used to stir some kinds of drinks, so "to swizzle" ought to mean "to stir, as with a swizzle stick." My guess is that Bennett is mixing up "swig" and "guzzle" (both slang verbs for drinking) and coming up with a new meaning for "swizzle."
Following up my own post, I find that "swizzle" as a verb can mean to swig or tipple (thanks to a library connection with a subscription to the Oxford English Dictionary), so Bennett is not coining a new sense after all.
@@neilmidkiff really?
@@neilmidkiff Wow...it took you 3 years of research to get to the bottom of that (drink)?
@@Cosmo-Kramer No, it just took about 3 years to get around to this WML episode again as I watch them in chronological order, at a rate of one almost every day. I'm on my third pass through the series by now.
@@neilmidkiff Wow. It was a joke that didn't require an explanation.
Bennett Cerf trying to trap the driving licence lady with his sexist question at the end 😑
No.
Joan Crawford easily looks her best here, of all her WML appearances. I dig her dress, the gloves, her hair (is it a wig?), the necklaces going all the way back, and her bracelet on the upper part of her left arm.
It must be a wig/hairpiece- it's bigger than Tony's head!
Elsie M.:-)
+Elsie M. CRAWFORD had on what was called a 'wiglet'; they were added onto an existing 'do or incorporated into the hair. The front of her hairstyle was hers & then that cascade of curls on the top rear of her head was the wiglet.
Wasn't Wiglet one of Winnie the Pooh's friends?
In her book she says she wears a fall and arranges her own hair around it. Those updos were always done by a hairdresser. Hair was set on rollers using setting agent, client placed under hair dryer for about an hour then arranged.
Yes, Tony, Joan's definitely a girl from the look of things. And her hair dresser must have earned an engineering degree for that do. Three Joan Crawford musicals that come to mind: "Dancing Lady" (1933). "Ice Follies of 1939" (thud of a flop) and "Torch Song" (her first full color movie).
soulierinvestments Joan's last film, "Trog", was SO cheap to produce, that she reportedly supplied her own film wardrobe for this film due to its very low budget.
And she certainly showed her flair for comedy in the 1942 film THEY ALL KISSED THE BRIDE, co-starring Melvyn Douglas, which used to be (and may still be) up on UA-cam.
One of the "That's Entertainment" films showed how every star at MGM in those days was expected to be able to sing and even dance. Did you know that Jimmy Stewart was the first to sing Cole Porter's "Easy to Love"? (Cole Porter was the most famous person to ever come from Peru, Indiana, where the driver's license test administrator was from). Joan Crawford also did some singing and dancing for MGM. "Dancing Lady" was the first movie in which Fred Astaire danced. Another "That's Entertainment" shows Crawford singing and dancing a number in which she was in dark makeup, not quite blackface. Debbie Reynolds then introduced film of another actress performing the same number, which was not used. Reynolds asks whether MGM made the wrong decision to use Crawford's performance rather than the other actress, but the answer is obvious I think the number was "Two Faced Woman."
The Hollywood Revue, and she sings in The Bride Wore Red
love Joan Crawford!
Joan Crawford was 60 here, but 1966 60 seems quite older than modern 60.
Those 60's hairstyles didn't help. It makes them look older than their age.
Joe Postove I think Joan Crawford looked very good, to be a lady at 60! ;)
+Joe Postove I agree. She looks 75 years old. Arlene looks 15 years younger than her yet they're only a couple of years apart.
+Joe Postove
I have a picture of my paternal grandparents c. 1950 when they were in their early-mid 60's. They look like what 80 looks like now. And their appearance was typical of the times. It was even more so for the average person than for a celebrity like Joan Crawford who could afford the best treatments and had incentive to keep her public appearance as youthful as possible. This was especially true for actresses in a Hollywood system that typically matched leading women with leading men as much as 20 years older.
@@jvcomedy by this episode. Arlene had plastic surgery done.
Mommie Dearest
Bennett knew Joan from the start, he was holding back you could tell
@Silversled no he kind of unsure
Of course...he's a cheater
@@gailsirois7175 on what evidence do you base this? And why would Bennett Cerf bother to cheat? This game was not his livelihood.
@@gailsirois7175 Not!
Dorothy's birthday (and mine!)
Tahnee Brookes I was born two months later to the day! :)
@Tahnee Brookes - Sadly, it was the first birthday after her untimely death when her children were without her.
I could be wrong but based on body language and facial expression in these intros, Arlene doesn't seem very fond of Suzy Knickerbocker.
Joan was bat shit crazy and maybe never won a mother of the year award but she sure was talented and glamorous. She knew how to be a star.
When was Joan ever on the stage?
I don't get what could Gil Fates have wanted to use from July 10, 1966 for the 25th anniversary special?
Also, could James Mason have been there that night to promote "Georgy Girl"?
Joan Crawford wearing such big jewelry
Tony ask Joan Crawford if she is June Allyson. Joan as you could see thought June Allyson was a major drip. And at the end as she leaves you can see how amazingly SHORT Joan was.
Bennett Cerf got so many of these, often based on exceptionally limited information 🤔
Auntie Mame.
He fell off the cliff Forrest Tucker,... and young boy... then about 23 married.
Bennett's face at 14:50!
Reluctant Dragon Bennett was so much like a child. His facial expressions of disappointment or glee, whenever he was wrong or right, has really been a joy to watch. :)
Joan was a bit sneaky. Her musicals were very few as she wasn't a great singer or dancer. Her "many" comedies were also very few and most came from the silent or pre Code period.
I think giving people exams so that they may obey the laws of the road is an aspect of law enforcement.
Johan Bengtsson talk about tough driving laws
ua-cam.com/video/yE82I1aiXlc/v-deo.html
Joe Postove Huh?
SaveThe TPC What?
Joe Postove Which?
+What's My Line? Who?
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Cerf just can’t keep his mouth shut when it isn’t his turn. Must be because of his natural arrogance and ego.
Not sure why Joan said she had been on the stage, unless she meant with William Castle to promote Straight-jacket. She never did Broadway or theater of any kind
Crawford started her show business career on the stage as a dancer and even danced on Broadway before being signed by MGM.
Innocent Eyes and The Passing Show of 1924. Both listed in the Internet Broadway Database website.
Does Suzy have the same accent as Jackie Kennedy?
It almost puts me to sleep every time.
+Joe Postove I read something about her one time and I believe she was from Texas. You can almost detect a little nasaly twang in her accent. One of her nicknames was "The most beautiful snob in the world" (I would hope there were more beautiful snobs than her) so if her nickname is accurate I suspect she's feigning a bit of a sophisticated accent, but can't quite shake the Texas influence.
Jeff Vaughn There are several accents in Texas. We don't all have a twang! Especially nowadays, few people 30 years or younger speak with a twang. It's dying out.
Joe Postove Not at all, Jackie spoke in a breathy, non-rhetoric, Long Island accent. They sound very different from each other.
Joan loved to kiss ppl.
Except her children!!!
Really miss Dorothy..none of these women can hold a candle to her...do not like Knickerbocker ...at all...Phyllis is so-so
I agree. While they promoted Miss Knickerbocker
(and she was a respected journalist) she lacked
the sharp mind and character Dorothy had.
Do you like wire hangers? NO!!! Joan Crawford!
This is kinescope. Why didn't they use videotape instead?
Because videotape was very expensive. It only cost about $50, tops, to make a 16mm kinescope, and films can be stored without deteriorating much more easily than videotape. The entire final season was recorded on color videotape, and the tapes were all erased and reused as far as anyone today knows. What we have are the kinescopes for the final year.
This is way before "Mommy Dearest" was released.
and?
Why do I get the feeling Bennett needs to be pandered to? He was just waiting to be told men are better drivers. He's so sexist. He also has a wandering eye. I wonder so much, I can't help it, about his relationship with Phyllis. Bennett was always traveling all over the place. I appreciate him in this show, but personally he strikes me as uncouth.
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!
C'mon, Bennett's just fine, this was back in a time when it wasn't wrong for a man to be sexist or adulterous.
Don't know how anyone could ever stand Cerf...can't stand him at all..he's so annoying all the time
I met Bennett once, and had a wonderful conversation with him. Extraordinarily intelligent, and a total gentleman.
Mommie Dearest