I am wondering if the afterlife potema was in WAS the soul cairn because she was necromancer and the ideal masters probably provided her with the power to summon so many undead armys she did make bargins with daedra and who knows what else so maybe when the dragonborn visited the soul cairn she was flying around the place
I love the story of a prince meeting "the most beautiful woman in the land" and instead of just fawning over her, they team up to go hunt down a monster. Now THAT is real romance
Imagine what would've happened if they actually managed to resurrected her and how it would've impacted The Civil War,The Empire and Tamriel as a whole.
Yes. Trap the soul of a demonic werewolf after you've slain it, and make a wedding ring out of the soul gem and give it to your pregnant wife. What could possibly go wrong?...
In a world where demonic swords come to life and literally cut limbs off the forces that made them alive in the first place... Nah, A Daedroth's Soul surely has the honor and moral code not to totally fuck everything up given the opportunity.
@@spikymarshmallow7611 My question is why they didn't just... enchant the damn thing? Its not hard. They were emperors, surely a court mage could have done it up something nice. A nice romantic enchantment, like fortify stamina, or charm. Or something potentially lifesaving, like poison resistance? Its realistic at least. History in our world and theirs is stuffed full of small bits of idiocy causing massive strife.
@@94Newbie no, very different, the soul gem breaks when you enchant, and theres a very specific magical advantage produced. The soul also is NO LONGER THERE, it seperates the lifespark, which is the power source, from the soul, which is the person, giving the soul to the ideal masters, and using the lifespark to enchant, more or less. This did NONE of that, and just slapped a soul gem into a necklace. Soul gems, btw, are kind of meant to be temporary. Even the black star get's a bit iffy with long-term use, as you can see in skyrim. Clearly, this is an example of the damn thing leaking after holding the same soul for too long, as it was able to influence the people who wore it, and place curses. I can walk around with 500 fresh black souls on my person and be fine, but you really shouldn't leave one lying around for decades. Wearing it would be like finding a souvenir at chernobyl, and putting it in a goddamned earring.
Old comment I know but that part of the story could in fact just be a story made up by people after the fact. Similar to how people made the story of Potema giving Pelagius III a cursed necklace which caused his insanity.
@@alexandermutter929 dude thanks for not being a dipshit and adding your thanks to the original comment 😂😂 some dumbasses legit ask for the people to subscribe to them
@Snigga Odinson If he's not a true god, then how come when you need to get the Blood of a Divine during the main questline in Oblivion, Talos' blood works?
@Snigga Odinson The LDB is a demi-god, so nice try, and Barbas is a daedra, but not a prince. He gives some of Clavicus Vile's power as shown in Skyrim where Vile is too weak without Barbas, so...
Not the A plot but if it had been deeply entwined with the Civil War storyline I would have loved it. I love the idea of the parallels between the War of the Red Diamond and the Stormcloak Rebellion being a central theme
The whole civil war quest was a boring waste of time, more time running all over Skyrim than actually doing anything. Then when you do actually do something it's completely linear with no choice on the players part about how to do it. Mods help significantly but vanilla is boring af.
I do love the fact that the Dragonborn gets the chance to really foul-up Potema's legacy. Not only does the player halt her resurrection, TWICE, but they can help to heal the mind and spirit of Pelagius during Sheogorath's quest. It kinda gives you this warm feeling, like you're putting the souls of everyone she tormented to ease once and for all.
The War of the Red Diamond reminds me of the War of the Roses (two different branches of the same royal family fighting), with Queen Potema being the spitting image of Margaret of Anjou, the She-Wolf of France.
In the books, some people believe that Potema's spirit was so strong in death that she became a daedra who inspired mortals to mad ambition and treason. I kinda wish that this were the story of this sidequest.
@@Wingedshadowwolf It's absolutely hilarious. You just walk into the first room where you can see them, Sneak and start spamming Frenzy. Watch all the Draugr and Necromancers fight each other, and then when there's no more fighting left to be done, just walk on through casually, looting the corpses and finish off the softened up victor of the Battle Royale! :D
@@damanrando7608 If you have Master of the Mind you can target the Draugr. If not, at least it the Necromancer's'll be killed by each other and their own raised dead! ^w^
I love the story of the Wolfqueen. And I wish she had been resurrected. This would have been such a nice twist and would have changed the future of the empire for certain =) Whether for good or bad is another question.
It would have made an interesting end for the main quest. I mean if Potema came back and you helped her, you could possibly have new things you could get away with, hell you could get in trouble with the law and say "I am Queen Potema's Thane. Step aside and clear my bounty." and they will be actively terrified into obedience, and you can use it as many times as you like. You can see Skeleton and Draugr guards start to take up residence, perhaps even she could teach you stuff that will help your Conjuration Spells (Maybe along the lines of the Black Books or meditating on the Words of Power)
I can’t believe how few people are liking this and some of your other deep lore vids. It takes a lot of reading of the in game books, researching the lore from all the ES, and trying to untangle everything that was maybe a “woods we didn’t mean to put that in the timeline,” to this is supposed to be cannon (sp?). It really makes me sad because I know you guys have done a ton of work, grabbed a lot of footage, edited it all, voice stuff, timing to the video. It’s a ton of work! I went to school back in 2000 for 3D animation, but had to study video editing (the really hard way with old school film and tape before editing into the very limited tools in video editing at the time in adobe). All video editing now is super easy compared to the stuff we did. But you guys really do a stand up job on your editing. I really encourage anyone who thinks the old school method is easy to try it. All i can say is save your cut films for editing a moment in case you cut too many.
I remember reading about the War of Red Diamond back in the Mage’s Guild then once I trecked over to Solitude and hearing the name Potema and my heart skipping a beat. I thought she would be the new Mannimarco of Skyrim. Turns out she was far more threatening if with less build up. Short and sweet.
I was disappointed that we weren't able to help the wolf queen rise again in Skyrim that would have been a interesting way to end the Skyrim civil war and the main story
Dudes, dudes, dudes.......just when I start to think it's getting close to ending y'all borrow another 20 minutes of my life. Bethesda should honor y'all for all of this. Amazing work!!! Keep it up guy's.
Most people don't think about this, but if she had been resurrected, she could have been a dragonslayer too. She was a septim. With that amount of magical power left in her soul after being dead that long, after having been partially bound in her summoning, and after only being half revived, she was almost definitely a proper dragonborn.
It's VERY similar to the Dance of Dragons. Down to some key deaths. I think both are based on the English War of the Roses but don't quote me on that lol
I don't think it comes from the war of the roses.It most likely comes from the anarchy where Henry I's daughter Matilda and Stephen of Blois fought over the crown.
I live in America so waking up to find new fudgemuppet videos is always a treat, keep it up guys i love everything you put out. I swear Drew is my scholar character given life lol.
The War of the Red Diamond is one of my favorite time periods in the history of Tamriel. I would love a spin-off game taking place sometime during the event. Though given the state of Bethesda over the last decade, I'd be very wary if them... _streamlining_ the lore if such a game were to exist.
Damn Potema to Oblivion! I went to her asking for an audience but she simply knocks me unconscious! I found myself waking up on a cart with 3 other prisoners, and then it happened again... the title screen appeared: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim.
I would like to point out you guys didn’t mention the effect that this war had on the knight of the nine. In my opinion it was the catalyst that broke up this majestic order
On thing I'd like to note, is that its actually debatable that it was Potema who made Pelagius the third insane. During Sheogorath's quest in Skyrim, it seems to heavily imply that Pelagius was driven mad by the sheer stress of his home life and the frankly horrible realities of being a Septim
Pity the potema plot was such a minute thrown together sidequest rather than a more detailed arc or a faction quest series. It would be cool to see the Wolf queens necklace as an artefact in a future game (:
Amazing video and story! That's as colourful as actual history. I was on the edge of my seat during some parts. Controversial statement: I think if they ever make a Elder Scrolls movie, they should just adapt this story! 😁😮
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I wish we would have had the ability to side with Potema, I'm sure that if the specualtions of Sybille Stentor working with Potema are actually true this could have made for a great new faction questline
And it was truly unknown why Pelagius III went mad, who did he succeed as regent of Solitude again? Wasn’t he supposedly visited by an old crone who gave him an amulet, with a soul gem at it’s centre. Incidentally, had Potema actually been resurrected, she would’ve possessed the most legitimate claim to the Ruby Throne, with her resurrection - the Septim Dynasty would’ve been restored. One of the most interesting and ‘unambiguously evil’ characters in ES history.
Legitimate claim or not, she would still be insane. I doubt anyone with any sense would actually support her and it would only fracture the weakened Empire even more if they did. Besides, merely being a Septim means nothing anymore; the Dragonfires are gone and the world has moved on from God-King hero worship of Tiber Septim. As for the War itself, well done summarizing. There are so many little things that are almost wrapped up into this and I was curious which you would mention. I first learned about the war back in Oblivion during the Knights of Nine quest-line; it was tragic hearing about how this war tore them apart.
I do wish that I could have had the chance to join her instead of fighting it. I know her turning you into an undead foot-soldier would make it easier for her to control you (also forces you not to join her) but it would have been way cooler to be offered a choice that branched off into something cool. Maybe neither the empire or stormcloaks win, but Potema does and you are at her side, ready to advance the new empire. Her ideal empire. I think it would have been cool to see especially after (only now) knowing what she was like
I wish we (the dragonborn) had the option to complete the resurrection ritual for Potema. You could side with and help her to retake Solitude and ultimately crush both imperials and stormcloaks and place Potema as high queen of Skyrim. Maybe even marry Potema, as the dragonborn you ARE power which would attract her and even give her a sense of legitimacy to claim the empire itself.
To elaborate a touch I have always felt that as dragonborn YOU have a stronger claim to the throne than either Elisef or Ulfric and the majority of people would side with the dragonborn reborn over either of them. A well written story would have you become high king and plant clues to a future where you reunite and rebuild the empire a la Tiber Septim.
Idk how many comments I've seen about this but mate. When talking about family trees (or even direct descendants) please have a visual. Even a basic one in Times New Roman font with each name above their successors and put a line through them once dead. Cheers
He mantles the title as the leader of the blades I guess. So maybe depending on what Bethesda says the out come will be either dragon born takes over as the new empire using the power of the thu'um or just ends the blades.
What if calper cycles are the god heads sleep cycles. If that was the case that means the redguards were able cross dreams and just continue existing despite how impossible that shit should be, that would be both awsome and fucked. This just hit me and i thought id throw it out there.
The next elder scrolls game needs to have a library of Alexandria type thing in it. It needs to have every book that's in the games in it in chronological order and then numerical order. It'd be a lot easier for loreists to get the info they need and could also double as just a library about the game anyone could go and look at.
i still and always subscribe to the idea of the player taking the throne. i mean we can accept the emperor's death as canon, even if we didnt do it, and we just happen to be the last true dragonborn.
I have one for you @FudgeMuppet. How do those black soul gem motion trigger traps work? How did they get them to shoot magic? That would be an interesting video.
We should have been able to side with Potema during the end of the quest. Would have been awesome to have her as a companion and instead of killing her we have to find artifacts to fully resurrect her instead. Imagine having a pissed off partially undead that would need to be smuggled from hold to hold in order to raid old battlefields in an epic grave robbing adventure. Would also give some legitimacy to our Grey Cloak Brethren. Skyrim is for the Nords!
I think the empire would have been better off honestly with an undead lich potema than it currently is with the aldmeri dominion. History really has come full circle with the high elves enslaving men
If there is EVER going to be a live Action Elder Scrolls Movie/TV Show it should be about The War Of The Red Diamond (no doubt it would resonate quite well with Game Of Thrones fans).
What would have happened if the soul gem containing the werewolf was used? Would it have been trapped in the soul cairn and avoided all this madness? I feel like that would be much smarter than turning it into a family heirloom.
“All I said was that Queen Potema looked a little portly in that gown. How was I supposed to know?” -some poor guy in the Soul Cairn
I am wondering if the afterlife potema was in WAS the soul cairn because she was necromancer and the ideal masters probably provided her with the power to summon so many undead armys she did make bargins with daedra and who knows what else so maybe when the dragonborn visited the soul cairn she was flying around the place
Haha. Poor dude.
@Vincenzo Graham Are you two bots or some shite? The original comment has nothing to do with movies, and this post is two years old.
I love the story of a prince meeting "the most beautiful woman in the land" and instead of just fawning over her, they team up to go hunt down a monster. Now THAT is real romance
The Wolf Queen's attempted Resurrection was one of my favorite side quests in Skyrim. This video is fantastic!
Imagine what would've happened if they actually managed to resurrected her and how it would've impacted The Civil War,The Empire and Tamriel as a whole.
It was great. . . But I kind of wish she'd been fully resurrected.
That would have been amazing.
@@darthlazurus4382 Me to do I can kill her and send back from were she came
I wish they had offered an option to assist in the resurrection / aid Potema
As a necromancer I always wanted to join the ritual and help them ressurect Potema. Where are my choices bethesda? Where!?
6:03 I like how this story was part of the Lusty Argonian Maid Cinematic Universe
@Darth Revan Certainly helps with pitching tents
Yes. Trap the soul of a demonic werewolf after you've slain it, and make a wedding ring out of the soul gem and give it to your pregnant wife.
What could possibly go wrong?...
In a world where demonic swords come to life and literally cut limbs off the forces that made them alive in the first place... Nah, A Daedroth's Soul surely has the honor and moral code not to totally fuck everything up given the opportunity.
@@spikymarshmallow7611 My question is why they didn't just... enchant the damn thing? Its not hard. They were emperors, surely a court mage could have done it up something nice. A nice romantic enchantment, like fortify stamina, or charm. Or something potentially lifesaving, like poison resistance?
Its realistic at least. History in our world and theirs is stuffed full of small bits of idiocy causing massive strife.
@@curvingfyre6810 thats pretty much what they did though. you use soul gems for enchantments. it would effectivly be the same.
@@94Newbie no, very different, the soul gem breaks when you enchant, and theres a very specific magical advantage produced. The soul also is NO LONGER THERE, it seperates the lifespark, which is the power source, from the soul, which is the person, giving the soul to the ideal masters, and using the lifespark to enchant, more or less. This did NONE of that, and just slapped a soul gem into a necklace. Soul gems, btw, are kind of meant to be temporary. Even the black star get's a bit iffy with long-term use, as you can see in skyrim. Clearly, this is an example of the damn thing leaking after holding the same soul for too long, as it was able to influence the people who wore it, and place curses. I can walk around with 500 fresh black souls on my person and be fine, but you really shouldn't leave one lying around for decades. Wearing it would be like finding a souvenir at chernobyl, and putting it in a goddamned earring.
Old comment I know but that part of the story could in fact just be a story made up by people after the fact. Similar to how people made the story of Potema giving Pelagius III a cursed necklace which caused his insanity.
This is a particularly dope piece of lore. Some real savage GOT type stuff.
hey thanks for the love guys ! keep upthe great work.
@@alexandermutter929 dude thanks for not being a dipshit and adding your thanks to the original comment 😂😂 some dumbasses legit ask for the people to subscribe to them
Gives me Dance of the Dragon vibes.
0:50 All of those Talos statues are making me want to go sicko mode in the Thalmor Embassy
Snigga Odinson Unfortunately that’s the only way someone can build such a great empire
@Snigga Odinson If he's not a true god, then how come when you need to get the Blood of a Divine during the main questline in Oblivion, Talos' blood works?
@Snigga Odinson The LDB is a demi-god, so nice try, and Barbas is a daedra, but not a prince. He gives some of Clavicus Vile's power as shown in Skyrim where Vile is too weak without Barbas, so...
@Snigga Odinson What does that have to do with anything?
@Snigga Odinson need more like you
Man, forget all this Alduin nonsense. The Potema resurrection plotline should have been the main story of Skyrim.
Not sure about that, but it certainly would have been a cool sub plot similar to (and replacing) the whole civil war story.
Not the A plot but if it had been deeply entwined with the Civil War storyline I would have loved it. I love the idea of the parallels between the War of the Red Diamond and the Stormcloak Rebellion being a central theme
Would have made the Civil War have more layers of intrigue.
The whole civil war quest was a boring waste of time, more time running all over Skyrim than actually doing anything. Then when you do actually do something it's completely linear with no choice on the players part about how to do it. Mods help significantly but vanilla is boring af.
It could've made a great dlc :(
I do love the fact that the Dragonborn gets the chance to really foul-up Potema's legacy.
Not only does the player halt her resurrection, TWICE, but they can help to heal the mind and spirit of Pelagius during Sheogorath's quest.
It kinda gives you this warm feeling, like you're putting the souls of everyone she tormented to ease once and for all.
The War of the Red Diamond reminds me of the War of the Roses (two different branches of the same royal family fighting), with Queen Potema being the spitting image of Margaret of Anjou, the She-Wolf of France.
In the books, some people believe that Potema's spirit was so strong in death that she became a daedra who inspired mortals to mad ambition and treason. I kinda wish that this were the story of this sidequest.
Let’s hope ES6 (or a mod, whoever comes first) goes over this more.
Is it me or do Tamrialians love Argonian and Khajiti erotica more than human or mer ones?
Furries confirmed
Bethesda: (furrys in disguise 😂😂😂)
We players: WTF MAN
@@rileymott8776 Indeed.
It's just bad writing. Or they think of it as a running joke.
Investigator Vale is Breton Erotica disguised as Sherlock Holmes.
Vivec's 36 lessons has some hot Hermaphrodite on Demon action.
It's always funny to throw a frenzy spell at the necromancers trying to bring her back. It's a long shot but worth the chaos that happens.
Ooh, I'll have to try that next time!
That would also cause their enslaved draugar to go berserk too... Doesn't it?
@@damanrando7608 Yes it does 😀
@@Wingedshadowwolf It's absolutely hilarious. You just walk into the first room where you can see them, Sneak and start spamming Frenzy. Watch all the Draugr and Necromancers fight each other, and then when there's no more fighting left to be done, just walk on through casually, looting the corpses and finish off the softened up victor of the Battle Royale! :D
@@damanrando7608 If you have Master of the Mind you can target the Draugr. If not, at least it the Necromancer's'll be killed by each other and their own raised dead! ^w^
This war is proof that The 3rd Era isn't as Glorious and Peaceful as people assume...but Potema was a badass!
Potema was a cunt, wtf are you talking about
@@bernieclinton9572 no she was a badass, but she was also fuckin’ insane
I love the story of the Wolfqueen. And I wish she had been resurrected. This would have been such a nice twist and would have changed the future of the empire for certain =) Whether for good or bad is another question.
It would have made an interesting end for the main quest. I mean if Potema came back and you helped her, you could possibly have new things you could get away with, hell you could get in trouble with the law and say "I am Queen Potema's Thane. Step aside and clear my bounty." and they will be actively terrified into obedience, and you can use it as many times as you like. You can see Skeleton and Draugr guards start to take up residence, perhaps even she could teach you stuff that will help your Conjuration Spells (Maybe along the lines of the Black Books or meditating on the Words of Power)
I can’t believe how few people are liking this and some of your other deep lore vids. It takes a lot of reading of the in game books, researching the lore from all the ES, and trying to untangle everything that was maybe a “woods we didn’t mean to put that in the timeline,” to this is supposed to be cannon (sp?). It really makes me sad because I know you guys have done a ton of work, grabbed a lot of footage, edited it all, voice stuff, timing to the video. It’s a ton of work! I went to school back in 2000 for 3D animation, but had to study video editing (the really hard way with old school film and tape before editing into the very limited tools in video editing at the time in adobe).
All video editing now is super easy compared to the stuff we did. But you guys really do a stand up job on your editing.
I really encourage anyone who thinks the old school method is easy to try it. All i can say is save your cut films for editing a moment in case you cut too many.
Only room for one Wolf Queen in Skyrim -
Vote Aela the Huntress, Your Moon Born Candidate in 4E 202
Nah
I remember reading about the War of Red Diamond back in the Mage’s Guild then once I trecked over to Solitude and hearing the name Potema and my heart skipping a beat. I thought she would be the new Mannimarco of Skyrim. Turns out she was far more threatening if with less build up. Short and sweet.
I was disappointed that we weren't able to help the wolf queen rise again in Skyrim that would have been a interesting way to end the Skyrim civil war and the main story
Imagine how she'd have affected The Empire
@@wiibrockster exactly
Shit would have gone down! She's a baaad bitch!
Daytron Pool that should have been an option.
@@paladinheadquarters7776 yea it should have it's not like it wouldn't have been impossible and it would have been way more interesting
Dudes, dudes, dudes.......just when I start to think it's getting close to ending y'all borrow another 20 minutes of my life. Bethesda should honor y'all for all of this. Amazing work!!! Keep it up guy's.
Most people don't think about this, but if she had been resurrected, she could have been a dragonslayer too. She was a septim. With that amount of magical power left in her soul after being dead that long, after having been partially bound in her summoning, and after only being half revived, she was almost definitely a proper dragonborn.
When A Song Of Ice And Fire and The Lord Of The Rings do the Fusion Dance you get The Elder Scrolls and that’s why it’s my favorite Fantasy Franchise.
It's almost like the Dance of Dragons
It's VERY similar to the Dance of Dragons. Down to some key deaths. I think both are based on the English War of the Roses but don't quote me on that lol
I don't think it comes from the war of the roses.It most likely comes from the anarchy where Henry I's daughter Matilda and Stephen of Blois fought over the crown.
I live in America so waking up to find new fudgemuppet videos is always a treat, keep it up guys i love everything you put out. I swear Drew is my scholar character given life lol.
I think if the wolfqueen, dark brotherhood, mages guild, and blades faction was all fleshed out more it would be so great
The War of the Red Diamond is one of my favorite time periods in the history of Tamriel.
I would love a spin-off game taking place sometime during the event. Though given the state of Bethesda over the last decade, I'd be very wary if them... _streamlining_ the lore if such a game were to exist.
Damn Potema to Oblivion! I went to her asking for an audience but she simply knocks me unconscious! I found myself waking up on a cart with 3 other prisoners, and then it happened again... the title screen appeared: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim.
Kaleb Patterson hey you, you’re finally awake
Game of thr- scrolls
The wolf queen and the war of the red diamond is one of my favorite parts of TES Lore
Last time I came this early my girlfriend left me
Well if being on time was a deal breaker then you are better off.
I would like to point out you guys didn’t mention the effect that this war had on the knight of the nine. In my opinion it was the catalyst that broke up this majestic order
On thing I'd like to note, is that its actually debatable that it was Potema who made Pelagius the third insane. During Sheogorath's quest in Skyrim, it seems to heavily imply that Pelagius was driven mad by the sheer stress of his home life and the frankly horrible realities of being a Septim
Potema is my favourite character. Everything about her I just love.
When you think about it were any of these Eras really peaceful?
No era is in any reality. I don't think humanity can even begin to comprehend a non conflict existence. It's like trying to imagine a 4th dimension
Define peaceful
DaMan Rando no dragons killing people with fire and ice and magic, no civil wars, no baning of faiths etc.
In fairness, the eras are quite long. It's probably more a question of peaceful times within the eras than "peaceful eras."
Ethan Donnelly It’s like the real life world. Wars all throughout history.. no peace has ever set it face upon us.. 😔
Pity the potema plot was such a minute thrown together sidequest rather than a more detailed arc or a faction quest series.
It would be cool to see the Wolf queens necklace as an artefact in a future game (:
Amazing video and story! That's as colourful as actual history. I was on the edge of my seat during some parts. Controversial statement: I think if they ever make a Elder Scrolls movie, they should just adapt this story! 😁😮
This is why it's always a bad idea to keep filled soul gems on your person, it's not just a weight issue.
I’ve watched every single one of yalls Skyrim videos probably 2-3 times. Sometimes as background while I do something else or sometimes to watch and escape reality for some time before falling asleep. These videos have helped me so much through a bunch of stuff and I never knew how much of an impact this game or fudgemuppet could have on my life.
Thank you so much for all your videos. Tell Drew I love him as well and the other one I know the Scott and Drew I can’t tell you how many tears I cry just watch your videos in the background thank you. I love Skyrim and Elder scrolls ever since I was little.
Ah FudgeMuppet, always here when I'm getting a little bored before bed...
Your videos are so therapeutic to me. I’ll play them and leave my phone on the table and drift off to sleep. It’s honestly the best and I love elder scrolls lore. Keep up the good work!
There's a mod called Rigmor of Bruma that makes the Dragon born Emperor . It's a really good mod so don't let that spoiler stop you from trying it .
I wish we would have had the ability to side with Potema, I'm sure that if the specualtions of Sybille Stentor working with Potema are actually true this could have made for a great new faction questline
lmao, tutoring a princess in the art of blackmail and LOCKPICKING!! xD hgahaa wtf
And it was truly unknown why Pelagius III went mad, who did he succeed as regent of Solitude again? Wasn’t he supposedly visited by an old crone who gave him an amulet, with a soul gem at it’s centre. Incidentally, had Potema actually been resurrected, she would’ve possessed the most legitimate claim to the Ruby Throne, with her resurrection - the Septim Dynasty would’ve been restored. One of the most interesting and ‘unambiguously evil’ characters in ES history.
Legitimate claim or not, she would still be insane. I doubt anyone with any sense would actually support her and it would only fracture the weakened Empire even more if they did. Besides, merely being a Septim means nothing anymore; the Dragonfires are gone and the world has moved on from God-King hero worship of Tiber Septim.
As for the War itself, well done summarizing. There are so many little things that are almost wrapped up into this and I was curious which you would mention. I first learned about the war back in Oblivion during the Knights of Nine quest-line; it was tragic hearing about how this war tore them apart.
I do wish that I could have had the chance to join her instead of fighting it. I know her turning you into an undead foot-soldier would make it easier for her to control you (also forces you not to join her) but it would have been way cooler to be offered a choice that branched off into something cool. Maybe neither the empire or stormcloaks win, but Potema does and you are at her side, ready to advance the new empire. Her ideal empire. I think it would have been cool to see especially after (only now) knowing what she was like
Keeping up with the Septims
I've been looking forward for this! Thanks!
Rawr
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Did you know Rawr means I love you in dinosaur
Glory to the Empire!
Long live the Empire
The Empire is Law, The Law is Sacred
Ironically, I was looking for a lore video on this a few days ago.
Awesome video as always! Can you do more high rock history? I’m a Breton fanatic and love any lore that comes my way. Thank you again!!
I wish we (the dragonborn) had the option to complete the resurrection ritual for Potema. You could side with and help her to retake Solitude and ultimately crush both imperials and stormcloaks and place Potema as high queen of Skyrim. Maybe even marry Potema, as the dragonborn you ARE power which would attract her and even give her a sense of legitimacy to claim the empire itself.
To elaborate a touch I have always felt that as dragonborn YOU have a stronger claim to the throne than either Elisef or Ulfric and the majority of people would side with the dragonborn reborn over either of them. A well written story would have you become high king and plant clues to a future where you reunite and rebuild the empire a la Tiber Septim.
Wow! That is some insane family drama and subterfuge!
Idk how many comments I've seen about this but mate. When talking about family trees (or even direct descendants) please have a visual. Even a basic one in Times New Roman font with each name above their successors and put a line through them once dead. Cheers
Dammit Todd you spilled some Game Of Thrones in with my elder scrolls
Just finished this dungeon and I wanted to know more about her. Thanks for the info!
Potema reminds me of a Rhaenyra kind of character . I wish we could’ve had an entire dlc on her story .
0:48 :when even after lichdom, you still find new creative ways to please yourself
Is it possible that the Dragonborn will take the place of talos when he dies.
No
It is possible.
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Not really. The dragonborn hasn't done any mantling
Saving the world is great deed but conquering it is even better
He mantles the title as the leader of the blades I guess. So maybe depending on what Bethesda says the out come will be either dragon born takes over as the new empire using the power of the thu'um or just ends the blades.
I would do ANYTHING to play a mod centered around The War of the Red Diamond.
I truly adore these lore videos. Thsnks for the great work!
What if calper cycles are the god heads sleep cycles. If that was the case that means the redguards were able cross dreams and just continue existing despite how impossible that shit should be, that would be both awsome and fucked. This just hit me and i thought id throw it out there.
Wonderful as normal just love these lore drops
Hey guys, just curious are you done doing builds? I love the lore, but I must say I miss the builds.
Do you think it's because of her that Solitude's symbol is a wolf?
If so, that would make this an even cooler piece of lore
Who else loves it when Michael & Scott pronounce Wolf as Woof 😄
Yes!!!! I’ve been waiting for this.
I cannot hear Plageis without thinking of the Star Wars meme
And I was just about to go to sleep.
Odin Tdk same here lol
Not tonight boi
Potema maybe interesting, but I make sure she gets what she deserves, absolutely nothing
The thing i like about potema and her biggest flaw are one and the same: lady has no chill and all of her business hours are slay-o-clock.
The next elder scrolls game needs to have a library of Alexandria type thing in it. It needs to have every book that's in the games in it in chronological order and then numerical order. It'd be a lot easier for loreists to get the info they need and could also double as just a library about the game anyone could go and look at.
Haemus Mora would love that..
Wolf skull cave is the best place to go if you love to play as a sneak archer
i still and always subscribe to the idea of the player taking the throne. i mean we can accept the emperor's death as canon, even if we didnt do it, and we just happen to be the last true dragonborn.
This is so much more interesting than high school history classes.
I have one for you @FudgeMuppet. How do those black soul gem motion trigger traps work? How did they get them to shoot magic? That would be an interesting video.
BY THE GODS lm lovin the lore! Many thanks
I need a family treee of this, ahaha too many names for me
Not only would a fully-resurrected Potema be bad enough, but with a powerful Dragonborn thrall shouting down all the opposition 😰
Hey make new videos! How else am I going to fall asleep to your guys soothing voice speaking sweet TES lore into my ear
I just read the entire collection on her, she's fucking awesome
Did anyone notice Scott’s voice had become really deep?
We should have been able to side with Potema during the end of the quest. Would have been awesome to have her as a companion and instead of killing her we have to find artifacts to fully resurrect her instead. Imagine having a pissed off partially undead that would need to be smuggled from hold to hold in order to raid old battlefields in an epic grave robbing adventure. Would also give some legitimacy to our Grey Cloak Brethren. Skyrim is for the Nords!
I think the empire would have been better off honestly with an undead lich potema than it currently is with the aldmeri dominion. History really has come full circle with the high elves enslaving men
If there is EVER going to be a live Action Elder Scrolls Movie/TV Show it should be about The War Of The Red Diamond (no doubt it would resonate quite well with Game Of Thrones fans).
Who else got into Elder Scrolls Lore through Shoddycast back in the days?
The War of the Red Diamond would make an excellent focal point for TES6. Only second to the Alessian Ascension, in my opinion.
Wolf Queen Potema - The Cersei Lannister of the Elder Scrolls
Potema: you cannot stop my resurrection!
Dragonborn:*draws Dawnbreaker* wanna bet?
Excellent!!! Cheers
I love skyrim so much
This entire story reminds me of Dance of the Dragons
Video gets posted at 2 am and I’m here watching this wtf
battle of the red ring please
His voice is deeper. Nord blood boiling.
Awesome video
If potema is resurrected. She could easily amass enough of an army to crush the aldmeri dominion.
What would have happened if the soul gem containing the werewolf was used? Would it have been trapped in the soul cairn and avoided all this madness? I feel like that would be much smarter than turning it into a family heirloom.
for skyrim and all the empire for high king Torygg and the semptim dynasty