This is the clearest video for the beginner who must work with a ceiling patch. I like your ad lib commentary, especially the part where you make a mistake (on purpose or by accident)-- then point it out, saying "don't do this". That trial and error helps us learn more quickly, because we have seen what not to do, and we can avoid making the same mistake. Your audio is very clear and the subject is well lighted, with the camera exactly where it needs to be for the best "over-the-shoulder" viewpoint. Little tips like the type of mud to buy are actually very important-- the local hardware store has mud powder as well as pre-mixed, and you clearly do not need the powder. You prescribe 15 or 20-minute mud, which saves us the guesswork. As you point out frequently, the steps you take are based on experience, which (often) is the best teacher.
You did an excellent job! And, I appreciate your awesome attitude! Your attention to detail made it easy for a woman like me (I never do stuff like that) to surprise my husband and make his load lighter. Thank you sooooo much!!!!
Here’s a little more advice for doing lighting. Get a rough idea of where your lighting will go and find all the studs in the area. Then adjust the lighting locations if necessary. After you locate the studs you may find some locations to be brutally difficult to pull off. Knowing what you’re up against ahead of time is a big help. Good luck!
Thank you for making this video. I've never had anyone teach me how to fix things around the house and I had a hole just like yours and I can't wait to fix it now that I see how to do it and it looks a lot easier than I thought. Thanks again.
Can't wait to give this a shot man thanks. I have to wait until my new roof gets installed 1st, slow leak on top floor ceiling caused the drywall to warp. it'll continue to get worse until the leak stops
Thanks for making a somewhat tough job easy. I was planning on hiring a drywall person to come in to repair a patch but because of your video I’m gonna do it myself
Thanks for this video. I found it to be very helpful. I'm installing a ceiling fan in my bedroom but I need to make another hole about a foot away from the original light fixture hole to make it even and to hold better with the new fan mount. I'll be patching the old hole in the ceiling. I know nothing about patching holes in the ceiling but I'm pretty good with following instructions from how to videos. :)
Awesome! A follow up post would be great to know how it goes. As a side note, you can get a small, thin (1/2"), round box for ceiling fans instead of using fan brackets. They are called "pancake boxes" and since they are only 1/2" thick and your drywall is 1/2" thick, you just cut a round hole right below your joist and attach the box to the joist directly. Since the box is as thick as the drywall, it will sit flush. It's a faster, easier, and stronger way to do ceiling fans. The box is wider than the joist, so it will overlap the joist by an inch or two allowing you to run the romex (electric cable) into the box without issue.
Alan Clegg. Thanks so much for that tip. I ran into one of those pancake boxes for the first time a month ago, and I can see the labor saving benefits it provided to the contractor. Unfortunately, my customer had purchased remote control fans - there was no room to squeeze the receiver and all the extra wires into a 1/2” box, or so it seemed. That was when I learned the benefits of push-in wire connectors. They require much less space than the usual wire nuts and made the impossible possible. Thanks for a really great video on patching holes - I can now undertake projects that scared me off in the past. CML
Exactly! I've used it a couple of times. I didn't do as good a job as the video did but paint helped. I'm sure I can do better in the future especially after watching your video today. Thanks again.
I’ve never been good with drywall, mud and paint and you’ve encouraged me to be better at it as I do need to run wires and I have no way of dropping from an attic and need to go “rogue” from the inside of the finished wall. I’m determined. Thanks. Subscribed.
Great video with plenty of demonstration. That's the same way I do it when I have to cut out a wall job well done you'd be surprised at how many people do not know how to do that
That video was very informative. I've got a ceiling patch that I'm doing, and with all the videos available and this one, I think I can do a pretty good repair. Thank you.
My method/system is mainly for repairing holes walls but can be used for ceilings with a slight adjustment so here is my smooth and Flush hole repair for any size I have a way to patch a hole from under an inch to over 6” that will allow you finish the repair totally flush. So less sanding means a quicker repair that will be impossible to tell after painting. You will be applying the “mud”within a couple of minutes starting the repair. The fiber insert means less mud use and help keep the mud from sliding down. My smooth and flush dry wall hole repair is by far the fast, easiest, cleanest way to do the repair. Oh and the wholesale cost to repair a 6” hole would add less than a dollar. There’s more! if you use on of my wall diapers price would go up but clean up is faster and easier ending with a cleaner then before you start. In fact a lot you probably have these in your house now Thank you AKA The Wild Hair Inventor
Good explanation. I’ve been patching for a long time. I like to to do a third coat with pre mixed topping compound - sands easier. Two coats of 20 and a third coat of topping but whatever works for you.
Thank you for making this video🙂. I've always been scare to make a hole on the ceiling, I want to find wood studs for my daughter's swing that she has been asking, before, every time my stud finder lights up I happen to ran into metal, I tried so many times even different directions and nothing, so I'm just gonna make a hole find a wood stud then patch the hole.
Do you live in a condo? Your home may have been framed with steel studs. You might also be hitting some square ducting. Cutting a hole isn’t a bad idea. You can also check by taking off a face plate to a light switch. The electrical box in the wall will be attached to a stud so you can peak at the stud there. Good luck!
@@AlanCleggYouDoAV thanks, I'll definitely try that. And yes I live in an apartment building and we are on the top floor, my other guess could be that I have only a drywall ceiling with duct or rafter ties, and then after that maybe a few feet above is where the structure of the actual roof is, and that's where I might find studs but if that's the case I won't be able to go further since I'm only renting. I appreciate you taking the time to reply🙂
My guess is that your studs are metal. If you have a cement building, I would guarantee your studs are metal. Unfortunately metal studs aren’t very strong. I wouldn’t hang a swing from them for sure and I wouldn’t try to anchor it to the cement either. That’s risky. Maybe build her a frame to hang the swing from?
Great work, well done!!! Thanks for those ideas. I'm new with this. I've never done this, but I'll with your tutorial. Looks so easy. Thanks, God bless you and all the other great people that are open to give knowledge. God bless you all.
Alan Clegg Doesn't anybody know the blowout patch? Let me see if I can make this simple Say you cut a Hole 12in x 12in like he has up there in his ceiling. Cut a sheetrock patch 2" bigger than the hole you you are repairing. Turn the patch material over, face down and on the back measure 1" along the outside edge on all four sides, scoring only the back paper and the gypsum but leaving the front paper intact. Then snap the gypsum and peel it from the front paper. So in effect what you made is a drywall patch that is a 12 x 12 gypsum plug with 1 inch tape all around all in one piece. Butter up the paper edges, carry some on to the edges of the gypsum, press the patch into place, trowel smooth the compound from under the paper edges then finish taping as you would any other drywall repair. What I like to do is make sure the gypsum remaining on my patch is slightly bigger than my hole repaired, that way the patch holds itself up without sagging and allows to push the patch slightly further-in, past the surface leaving a slight indent which then can be filled as you tape to assure there is no high spot in your surface. A high-end Builder I worked for when I first broke in in the 80s had bought a house on a property he was to subdivide and a complete renovation of that house was the first order of business. In the kitchen the cabinet floor plan was changed therefore the 20-odd high hat lights were to be repositioned with the existing locations patched and repaired but otherwise the ceiling was left intact. His tapers always gave him the best price so part of the deal was the carpenters would patch all the holes and they follow and tape. The old guys threw me in there because nobody wanted to hassle with 20+ down light patches. But with this blow-out patch I had learned from a remodeler I worked under one year, I made quick work of it I used a drywall Circle cutter and made patches 2 inches larger in diameter than the hole, flipped the patch over, set my circle cutter to the hole size plus 1/8" and scored that Circle. Scoring the gypsum around a circle required a little more hand work than a straight line, though if your patch material is fresh drywall the gypsum is easily released from the paper making sure the back of your paper "tape" is completely clean of any bits The tapers appreciated my efforts to make their job easy by eliminating the need for them to run any tape themselves, and I did not have to set the patches. I put them in a box on top of the Rolling Baker and they came by on their stilts and affected all the repairs. So it's no bits of wood, no screw gun, no sheetrock screws ripping old paper or cracking old gypsum near the edge your hole, no fiddling around up above the ceiling or behind the wall. It even works on a plaster repair in a pinch . So there you have it... a blowout patch... a plug and paper tape all in one go and a couple of coats of compound and voilà you're finished Everything I ever learned in the trades and almost everything that I finally know now has been handed down to me or picked up by me as I walked through buildings under construction noticing the details of how things are put togethet There's no course to take and not found in any books this knowledge has been passed along for generations, over hundreds maybe even thousands of years. This above anything else is what I loved about my life working in the Building Trades
Thanks! I don't know if I can make a video about it, but it sounds like you need to use an anchor of some kind. Are you screwing it into the drywall and the screw pops out?
I have same problem caused by hole in sheetrock stripped out. This has inspired a fix-glue wood stock behind the end where screw is and anchor the duct screw into the wood.
After watching video then I am going to try and repair the damage to my sons bedroom ceiling caused by water damage. Never did much DIY before but trying to save money. Wish me luck :)
Yes take pride in your work. No't just at home. Getting payed to do sum thing makes you a pro. so do it to the best of your ability. and learn and watch and train to be better. Those who don't know learn. Good enough is not a option..... Watch vid to the end GR8 tip's
Protip: Buy Sheetrock 45, add warm water and a bit of salt. The salt and warm water will cause the joint compound to set up faster. Then it's 5 minute mud.
Wish i saw this before i just ran lights in the garage 😂 i didnt keep the patch (lack of sleep). I also thought you had to cut stud to stud. Damn... great video though
Great video, thanks for posting. Also, at 1:03, I thought it was kind of funny that you put that piece of ceiling debris right back into the ceiling. 🙂
Need ceiling in hallway repaired but have blown insulation in attic and I can't be around that stuff. Have a crack so is there another way to fix it? Nice job you did.
Is it just a crack or is it a hole that needs patching? If it’s just a crack, apply a piece of drywall tape over it and start mudding. No need to cut it out.
I hope this will be helpful to you. 1st. Throw thoes sticks away. Forget the screws. Now lets start over. First, when you cut the hole, cut with the blade at an angle to wall or celing. I try to cut at a 45 degree angle. Now the patching. Mix up some 5 lite and spread it on the 45 degree edges of the patch and hole. Now, push the patch in the hole. Trowel smooth. Last, use a tile sponge to wet sand. Put the spong in water. Wet sand with the abrasive side. Rince spong as needed. Now, sand smooth with soft side of sponge. Rince and sand as needed. Been doing it 40 years.
So cut the drywall at an angle, butter the edges of the patch and insert again. Trowel off the excess that squeezes out, then smooth over with a sponge while still wet mud. No need to sand after dry now? Then just paint?
What you did wrong? Nothing. Here's what you did right: 1. No 30 second intro. Waste of friggin' time. 2. No music. I have a radio. If I want music, I'll turn it on. 3. Moved quickly over the steps, quickly reiterated important steps. 4. Emphasized steps that were critical and steps that were non-critical. Very important. Possibly the most watchable how-to video I've seen, and I've seen 100's if not 1000's. I've patched dozens of holes in drywall, still managed to pick up some pointers. Very well done.
That English Bloke With MS Yes , there are a ton of terrible videos. I’m appreciative of them all for taking the time to make them for whatever their reason. He did do a great job. The winded complaining somehow nudged me. We all have our moments. Cheers!
in my country we have an outsourcing app with "fully qualified carpenter and gyprocker". Theyre idiots, frauds with no or stolen certificates and it disturbs me so much that someone always pays them top dollar for a disgusting waste of a repair job that i cannot focus at work LOL
As a drywall pro...I have seen many DIY videos...great vid...but one thing a tip...... when using 8 in or more drywall blades bend the outside edges in...so to make a little hump in the middle...
Alan... last year I had a leak in the bathroom upstairs that damaged the ceiling in the spare room downstairs. After the plumber left, I spent a whole day patching the ceiling. Looks like crap. LOL. A month ago I had another leak upstairs that caused damage to my living room ceiling. Plumber fixed the leak, but I have a hole in the drywall in the ceiling. I have been wanting to call a contractor to fix the damage, but I knew it would cost more than it should. So I have been inspired to attempt to patch the drywall myself. And if it works out, I will redo the patch in the spare room. Thanks for making it look less daunting.
Thanks to your video, it turned out great. It only took me two coats of mud, and the worst part was the waiting as it dried. I let my wife do the texture and she did a pro job. Just need to paint it tomorrow. Thanks again, Alan.
Excellent! This is the trade skill that I'm very weak at. You make it look easy, I'll have to study your video again for this weekend when I install ceiling fans with no attic space. GReat work Alan!
We didn't have a power on the ceiling of the patio, and to bring it there I hired one electrician from a decent company "MileStone". He brought the wire there, but failed to cut the hole for the pan electrical box symmetrically, so the load bearing joist is going not through the center of that hole, but slightly shifted (not more that ~1/4"). The electrician attached the box not to the center of the stud, as a result, so the stud got slightly split, and the box itself was sitting on two #6 screws (~1.5") and one big (~#12-14) short screw on the end of the box. Maybe it would hold like that for couple years, but I like solid work, so decided to redo it. Not sure is it better to cut out the ceiling more (but then you need to patch it), or strengthen somehow the bottom of that joist in addition to the glue for wood "Gorilla" and pieces of wood I used with clamps to close the splits and unnecessary multiple holes the technician did. I would appreciate any opinion on the question: is it better to cut a bigger hole or just to strengthen that joist. The ceiling on our patio is from some kind of plywood, it is not drywall. Is it hard to patch it? Thank you for the great film.
This is exactly how I've been fixing drywall patches for about 18 years. I always talk people out of using those hot patches from Lowes and Home Depot. They're a waste of money.
I have a mobile home and the ceiling panels arent drywall I'm not sure what material they are...would this work too with the different ceiling material?
Hmmmm... I don’t know. I can tell you that this material is not flexible so any movement of the joint will crack it. That’s about all I can say about it.
After seeing your video I have the confidence to fix my similar patch in the ceiling. But my texture is different. I don't know how to paint similar texture.
Luckily, getting a smooth patch in preparation for application of the texture is the hard part. If you don’t like the texture you apply, wipe it off with a towel or use a 12” drywall knife to smooth it out. I didn’t make a texture video but I’m sure there are plenty on UA-cam. Good luck!
Even better than using tape is a caulking gun around edge with fast drying liquid nails. Then you only need a tiny amount of mixture to level out. Quick sand then it’s flawless
Man you make it so hard. Cut a square 2 or more inches square all the way around. scribe on the back. Break off the excess. Slip it in with mud and done. No wood or screws. Been doing for many years and now way would I do it your way unless really needed some serious backing.
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That's some good info, helps this old paperhanger. Does the twenty min mud have some working time and sand easy? I had some fast drying mud once dry could not sand
Yes!!!! Thanks for bringing that up. I wish I would have thought to mention it because that’s important. 20 min mud has plenty of working time for patching purposes and sands easily when it’s completely dry (the next day).
You don’t have to get the first coat SUPER smooth. As long as its decent without huge lumps or anything, you should be able to jump right into the second coat. If your first coat is too rough to make smooth, you may have to sand it a bit between coats.
I'm just getting started with drywall and such and am still learning a lot. Probably been mentioned already, but you said you wait 20 minutes and check for hardness, so does that mean you're using Easy Sand 20, or what kind of joint compound do you recommend/use for this?
I use the Easy Sand 20 but you should NOT try to sand it after 20 minutes. It will not be ready yet. You can add more mud but no sanding. If you need to sand it, do it the next day. Thank you for watching!
I'm now retired but did home remodeling for years... just about every job I worked on needed some kind of patch work... when I was done you could not find the hole I patched, whether it was an old electrical outlet or switch to 4 foot holes in ceilings... I used to do what was called a "California patch" which is very similar to what's being done here but with a bit less work... my patch work was stronger than the wall around it... needless to say home owners and landlords loved my work and I got most of my jobs by word of mouth alone
great video! i'm a girl and it's my first time patching drywall.. drill is really not going into the furring strips. they are 3/4 inch and my screws are 1.5in. Is it not going in because I dont have enough power to push into the wood? or what is the problem?
Your drill is fine. Are you using drywall screws? If you’re using some other type of screw, it will be pretty difficult and the end product might be weird. If youre using drywall screws you may just have to press harder when you drill. Hold the wood down with your other hand while you’re drilling.
Thank you very much for the instruction. I’m going to give it a try. I think the hard part will be matching the texturing. Am I to make a new batch of mud before the second application?
im a girl and my boyfriend punched two holes in my wall ...and i rent this place so i was so scared to ask my landlord to fix it and this helped so much ...very informative video and you made it so easy for me to do it ...now that i know how to do this it makes me want to fix ither things lol
Search out the "California patch" I started using these for drywall patching a while back during new cable pulls & rewires... The results are really good.
I’ve used the California patch a few times. You’re right. It is very helpful. I actually made a video on how to do them. Check it out and leave some feedback. ua-cam.com/video/UIES4bnzeCI/v-deo.html
I use fiba fuse fiberglass tape and black and green bucket pre mixed mudd it takes longer but I can usually coat it later on in the day. I work as a commercial electrician and I’ve never seen them use bag mudd unless filling in holes
You wouldn’t use bag mud on a commercial job. They’ll lay down boxes and boxes of mud in a day then come back and sand it a week later. This technique is just for patching small holes from start to finish in the same day. Thanks for watching.
So that's how its done. When the HVAC guys put the unit in the roof space they cut a hole in the ceiling to install it. Now I have a hole and the drywall that went in it. Great video lesson so I can fix it.
This is the clearest video for the beginner who must work with a ceiling patch. I like your ad lib commentary, especially the part where you make a mistake (on purpose or by accident)-- then point it out, saying "don't do this". That trial and error helps us learn more quickly, because we have seen what not to do, and we can avoid making the same mistake. Your audio is very clear and the subject is well lighted, with the camera exactly where it needs to be for the best "over-the-shoulder" viewpoint. Little tips like the type of mud to buy are actually very important-- the local hardware store has mud powder as well as pre-mixed, and you clearly do not need the powder. You prescribe 15 or 20-minute mud, which saves us the guesswork. As you point out frequently, the steps you take are based on experience, which (often) is the best teacher.
Wow! What a great compliment. Thank you very much!
Alan: you're a gangster of skill and your teaching method is genius. Thanks for taking the time to put this together! GREAT work.
Glad to help and thanks for watching!
Superb video. No background music is appreciated! I needed this refresher course. Thanks!
Sweet! I'm glad to help. I hope your patches turned out well.
Really well done, man. I haven't patched for years, but your teaching style is so good that I feel totally comfortable now.
Thank you! As a matter of fact, I’ll be back in that room today patching new holes from a kitchen flood. Best of luck! You’ll do great!
Great tips and you are freakin hilarious! I literally laughed out loud with that comment about the 25" drywall knife
YOU are hilarious! Thanks for watching!
The best drywall patch instruction I have seen, Thanks.
Thanks! You’re the best.
You did an excellent job! And, I appreciate your awesome attitude! Your attention to detail made it easy for a woman like me (I never do stuff like that) to surprise my husband and make his load lighter. Thank you sooooo much!!!!
Best news I heard all day! Glad to help and thanks for watching!
Nice job, I’ve been wanting to add recessed lighting in my home theatre for a couple of years now. Thanks for the video.👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Here’s a little more advice for doing lighting. Get a rough idea of where your lighting will go and find all the studs in the area. Then adjust the lighting locations if necessary. After you locate the studs you may find some locations to be brutally difficult to pull off. Knowing what you’re up against ahead of time is a big help. Good luck!
Good job but next time dont put the screw at your mouth and talking.
Thank you for making this video. I've never had anyone teach me how to fix things around the house and I had a hole just like yours and I can't wait to fix it now that I see how to do it and it looks a lot easier than I thought. Thanks again.
Thanks for watching and let us know how it went.
It went perfect I wish I took a picture to share with you but it looks really good the only person that can see it is me. thanks again.
Awesome! Glad to hear of your success!
Can't wait to give this a shot man thanks. I have to wait until my new roof gets installed 1st, slow leak on top floor ceiling caused the drywall to warp. it'll continue to get worse until the leak stops
You’ll do great! Thanks for watching.
Thanks for making a somewhat tough job easy. I was planning on hiring a drywall person to come in to repair a patch but because of your video I’m gonna do it myself
Sweet! You’re gonna do great! Then charge your buddies dinner to do theirs.
Thanks for this video. I found it to be very helpful. I'm installing a ceiling fan in my bedroom but I need to make another hole about a foot away from the original light fixture hole to make it even and to hold better with the new fan mount. I'll be patching the old hole in the ceiling. I know nothing about patching holes in the ceiling but I'm pretty good with following instructions from how to videos. :)
Awesome! A follow up post would be great to know how it goes. As a side note, you can get a small, thin (1/2"), round box for ceiling fans instead of using fan brackets. They are called "pancake boxes" and since they are only 1/2" thick and your drywall is 1/2" thick, you just cut a round hole right below your joist and attach the box to the joist directly. Since the box is as thick as the drywall, it will sit flush. It's a faster, easier, and stronger way to do ceiling fans. The box is wider than the joist, so it will overlap the joist by an inch or two allowing you to run the romex (electric cable) into the box without issue.
Alan Clegg. Thanks so much for that tip. I ran into one of those pancake boxes for the first time a month ago, and I can see the labor saving benefits it provided to the contractor. Unfortunately, my customer had purchased remote control fans - there was no room to squeeze the receiver and all the extra wires into a 1/2” box, or so it seemed. That was when I learned the benefits of push-in wire connectors. They require much less space than the usual wire nuts and made the impossible possible. Thanks for a really great video on patching holes - I can now undertake projects that scared me off in the past. CML
Your videos are awesome and your commentary is HILARIOUS!
Glad you liked the video. Thanks for watching!
Exactly! I've used it a couple of times. I didn't do as good a job as the video did but paint helped. I'm sure I can do better in the future especially after watching your video today. Thanks again.
Awesome! With even a little practice, you'll be shocked at how good you get and how easy it is
I’ve never been good with drywall, mud and paint and you’ve encouraged me to be better at it as I do need to run wires and I have no way of dropping from an attic and need to go “rogue” from the inside of the finished wall.
I’m determined. Thanks. Subscribed.
That's what made me learn. I had to run wire and figured I better be ready to patch some holes. Thanks for watching!
Thank you! We have a hole 🕳 now in our ceiling and I had no idea where to even start to begin patching it!
This is great tutorial video!
Thanks!
Great video with plenty of demonstration. That's the same way I do it when I have to cut out a wall job well done you'd be surprised at how many people do not know how to do that
That video was very informative. I've got a ceiling patch that I'm doing, and with all the videos available and this one, I think I can do a pretty good repair. Thank you.
My method/system is mainly for repairing holes walls but can be used for ceilings with a slight adjustment so here is my smooth and Flush hole repair for any size I have a way to patch a hole from under an inch to over 6” that will allow you finish the repair totally flush. So less sanding means a quicker repair that will be impossible to tell after painting. You will be applying the “mud”within a couple of minutes starting the repair. The fiber insert means less mud use and help keep the mud from sliding down.
My smooth and flush dry wall hole repair is by far the fast, easiest, cleanest way to do the repair. Oh and the wholesale cost to repair a 6” hole would add less than a dollar.
There’s more! if you use on of my wall diapers price would go up but clean up is faster and easier ending with a cleaner then before you start. In fact a lot you probably have these in your house now
Thank you
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The Wild Hair Inventor
Sir, well done. This has given me a great idea..
Thank you. I have a potential repair to do myself and this is the exact type of tutorial that I was looking for.
Sweet!! Glad to help
Funny and informative without the filler. Thanks to you, I did AV!
Haha! That's great! Thanks for watching
Good explanation. I’ve been patching for a long time. I like to to do a third coat with pre mixed topping compound - sands easier. Two coats of 20 and a third coat of topping but whatever works for you.
That’s good advice! Thank you for that
"if you cut it misshapen it makes it easier to put back in" - AWESOME TIP
Hahahaha! A fortunate error that seems to work out every time.
@@AlanCleggYouDoAV or draw parallel pencil lines from your patch onto the ceiling so you will orient the patch correctly without trial and error.
@@guymandudely324 Also a great idea!
Thank you for this. I’m so glad I found this video. I was one of those people that thought you had to cut stud to stud.
I used to think the same thing. Thanks for watching!!
I find it much easier to make a square cut and use a "California patch."
why?
@@BigKeithDogwhat’s a California patch?
Thanks Alan this has really helped me out and saved us a few quid.
Awesome use if the word "quid." Thanks for watching!
And this is why I love UA-cam. Just done my first ever patch , and absolutely chuffed with my effort. Thanks.
I have no idea what chuffed is
@@AlanCleggYouDoAV
It means "so pleased"
You make this so easy. I am due to fit a projector by myself this helps so much
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the great tutorial. The humor thrown in makes it fun to watch too. Great job.
Thanks for watching!
Thank you for making this video🙂.
I've always been scare to make a hole on the ceiling, I want to find wood studs for my daughter's swing that she has been asking, before, every time my stud finder lights up I happen to ran into metal, I tried so many times even different directions and nothing, so I'm just gonna make a hole find a wood stud then patch the hole.
Do you live in a condo? Your home may have been framed with steel studs. You might also be hitting some square ducting. Cutting a hole isn’t a bad idea. You can also check by taking off a face plate to a light switch. The electrical box in the wall will be attached to a stud so you can peak at the stud there. Good luck!
@@AlanCleggYouDoAV thanks, I'll definitely try that. And yes I live in an apartment building and we are on the top floor, my other guess could be that I have only a drywall ceiling with duct or rafter ties, and then after that maybe a few feet above is where the structure of the actual roof is, and that's where I might find studs but if that's the case I won't be able to go further since I'm only renting. I appreciate you taking the time to reply🙂
My guess is that your studs are metal. If you have a cement building, I would guarantee your studs are metal. Unfortunately metal studs aren’t very strong. I wouldn’t hang a swing from them for sure and I wouldn’t try to anchor it to the cement either. That’s risky. Maybe build her a frame to hang the swing from?
@@AlanCleggYouDoAV yes, that's exactly what I'll do. Thank you so much!🙂
Great work, well done!!! Thanks for those ideas. I'm new with this. I've never done this, but I'll with your tutorial. Looks so easy. Thanks, God bless you and all the other great people that are open to give knowledge. God bless you all.
Thanks for watching. I'm glad these videos are helping people get their projects done
I like how you blessings the people's with GOD
Alan Clegg
Doesn't anybody know the blowout patch? Let me see if I can make this simple
Say you cut a Hole 12in x 12in like he has up there in his ceiling. Cut a sheetrock patch 2" bigger than the hole you you are repairing.
Turn the patch material over, face down and on the back measure 1" along the outside edge on all four sides, scoring only the back paper and the gypsum but leaving the front paper intact.
Then snap the gypsum and peel it from the front paper. So in effect what you made is a drywall patch that is a 12 x 12 gypsum plug with 1 inch tape all around all in one piece.
Butter up the paper edges, carry some on to the edges of the gypsum, press the patch into place, trowel smooth the compound from under the paper edges then finish taping as you would any other drywall repair.
What I like to do is make sure the gypsum remaining on my patch is slightly bigger than my hole repaired, that way the patch holds itself up without sagging and allows to push the patch slightly further-in, past the surface leaving a slight indent which then can be filled as you tape to assure there is no high spot in your surface.
A high-end Builder I worked for when I first broke in in the 80s had bought a house on a property he was to subdivide and a complete renovation of that house was the first order of business. In the kitchen the cabinet floor plan was changed therefore the 20-odd high hat lights were to be repositioned with the existing locations patched and repaired but otherwise the ceiling was left intact.
His tapers always gave him the best price so part of the deal was the carpenters would patch all the holes and they follow and tape.
The old guys threw me in there because nobody wanted to hassle with 20+ down light patches. But with this blow-out patch I had learned from a remodeler I worked under one year, I made quick work of it
I used a drywall Circle cutter and made patches 2 inches larger in diameter than the hole, flipped the patch over, set my circle cutter to the hole size plus 1/8" and scored that Circle. Scoring the gypsum around a circle required a little more hand work than a straight line, though if your patch material is fresh drywall the gypsum is easily released from the paper making sure the back of your paper "tape" is completely clean of any bits
The tapers appreciated my efforts to make their job easy by eliminating the need for them to run any tape themselves, and I did not have to set the patches. I put them in a box on top of the Rolling Baker and they came by on their stilts and affected all the repairs.
So it's no bits of wood, no screw gun, no sheetrock screws ripping old paper or cracking old gypsum near the edge your hole, no fiddling around up above the ceiling or behind the wall. It even works on a plaster repair in a pinch .
So there you have it... a blowout patch... a plug and paper tape all in one go and a couple of coats of compound and voilà you're finished
Everything I ever learned in the trades and almost everything that I finally know now has been handed down to me or picked up by me as I walked through buildings under construction noticing the details of how things are put togethet
There's no course to take and not found in any books this knowledge has been passed along for generations, over hundreds maybe even thousands of years. This above anything else is what I loved about my life working in the Building Trades
I think that this method is called the "California" patch. It is quite effective, if you can plaster it nicely.
That’s an appropriate name! I learned it while living in California. Thanks for watching.
Excellent Allan. Very neat and precise. I have a ceiling vent in the basement and it falls off. Can you please show me how to fix it. Thanks
Thanks! I don't know if I can make a video about it, but it sounds like you need to use an anchor of some kind. Are you screwing it into the drywall and the screw pops out?
@@AlanCleggYouDoAV tge screw pops out and vent too as it is slightly loose.
I have same problem caused by hole in sheetrock stripped out. This has inspired a fix-glue wood stock behind the end where screw is and anchor the duct screw into the wood.
I've seen it done with just cement only but this is the proper way to do it
Thanks for watching!
Excellent video thank you very much indeed. I am from the United Kingdom and we would call it filler not mug! 😀
That's pretty cool that people on the other side of the world are watching me patch holes in my ceiling.
After watching video then I am going to try and repair the damage to my sons bedroom ceiling caused by water damage. Never did much DIY before but trying to save money. Wish me luck :)
GOOD LUCK! You don't need luck though- it's easy! Thanks for watching!
Did as you had shown and really pleased with the result. Saved £££'s, thank you.
So funny and instrumental. I had to subscribe.
Hey thanks for subscribing and watching. You’re the best!!
Yes take pride in your work. No't just at home. Getting payed to do sum thing makes you a pro. so do it to the best of your ability. and learn and watch and train to be better. Those who don't know learn. Good enough is not a option..... Watch vid to the end GR8 tip's
Nice video, Alan! Thanks!!
Protip: Buy Sheetrock 45, add warm water and a bit of salt. The salt and warm water will cause the joint compound to set up faster. Then it's 5 minute mud.
That’s clever. Never heard of that one before. Thanks for that
Wish i saw this before i just ran lights in the garage 😂 i didnt keep the patch (lack of sleep). I also thought you had to cut stud to stud. Damn... great video though
Bummer. Hopefully this info helps for future drywall work. Thanks for watching!
Great video, thanks for posting. Also, at 1:03, I thought it was kind of funny that you put that piece of ceiling debris right back into the ceiling. 🙂
I hate to separate a family.
Excellent video. Now I can get to work. Thanks a lot.
Thanks! Let us know how it goes and give us some more advice in case I missed something.
Shall I use 1/2" or 5/8" drywall for a ceiling repair job like this? Thanks!
Nice work, nice attitude!
Thanks for the compliment and thanks for watching!
That was an excellent video! You have a nice way of making it entertaining also.
Glad you liked it! Thanks for watching
Need ceiling in hallway repaired but have blown insulation in attic and I can't be around that stuff. Have a crack so is there another way to fix it? Nice job you did.
Is it just a crack or is it a hole that needs patching? If it’s just a crack, apply a piece of drywall tape over it and start mudding. No need to cut it out.
3:06 99 people. haha. Best mudding video I've seen yet; and it didnt have 6 parts that take an hour to watch. thanks!
Thanks!
I hope this will be helpful to you. 1st. Throw thoes sticks away. Forget the screws. Now lets start over. First, when you cut the hole, cut with the blade at an angle to wall or celing. I try to cut at a 45 degree angle. Now the patching. Mix up some 5 lite and spread it on the 45 degree edges of the patch and hole. Now, push the patch in the hole. Trowel smooth. Last, use a tile sponge to wet sand. Put the spong in water. Wet sand with the abrasive side. Rince spong as needed. Now, sand smooth with soft side of sponge. Rince and sand as needed. Been doing it 40 years.
So cut the drywall at an angle, butter the edges of the patch and insert again. Trowel off the excess that squeezes out, then smooth over with a sponge while still wet mud. No need to sand after dry now? Then just paint?
@@Purifiedinfire yes you got it. Good luck.
Good teaching and training. I love the humor. Thank you
Well you’re awesome!
What you did wrong? Nothing. Here's what you did right:
1. No 30 second intro. Waste of friggin' time.
2. No music. I have a radio. If I want music, I'll turn it on.
3. Moved quickly over the steps, quickly reiterated important steps.
4. Emphasized steps that were critical and steps that were non-critical. Very important.
Possibly the most watchable how-to video I've seen, and I've seen 100's if not 1000's.
I've patched dozens of holes in drywall, still managed to pick up some pointers.
Very well done.
Wow!! Great feedback. I really appreciate it. You’re the best!
@@tonyd4346 For the complainers, if you already know better, why are you watching? I'm a painting contractor and I know I can always learn.
That English Bloke With MS Yes , there are a ton of terrible videos. I’m appreciative of them all for taking the time to make them for whatever their reason. He did do a great job. The winded complaining somehow nudged me. We all have our moments. Cheers!
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in my country we have an outsourcing app with "fully qualified carpenter and gyprocker".
Theyre idiots, frauds with no or stolen certificates and it disturbs me so much that someone always pays them top dollar for a disgusting waste of a repair job that i cannot focus at work LOL
Awesome, except I couldn't help squiring...I thought you was going to drill ya finger lol.
Thank you for the quick fix. x
Glad to help!
Wow you make it seem so easy. Good work and thank you so much.
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Thx Alan. I'm ready to patch my ceiling now. I also have that same textured ceiling. :). PS Love your sense of humor
Glad to help!
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Great video. Much better than the other ones out there.
Great work thanks for posting this one
As a drywall pro...I have seen many DIY videos...great vid...but one thing a tip...... when using 8 in or more drywall blades bend the outside edges in...so to make a little hump in the middle...
Alan... last year I had a leak in the bathroom upstairs that damaged the ceiling in the spare room downstairs. After the plumber left, I spent a whole day patching the ceiling. Looks like crap. LOL. A month ago I had another leak upstairs that caused damage to my living room ceiling. Plumber fixed the leak, but I have a hole in the drywall in the ceiling. I have been wanting to call a contractor to fix the damage, but I knew it would cost more than it should. So I have been inspired to attempt to patch the drywall myself. And if it works out, I will redo the patch in the spare room.
Thanks for making it look less daunting.
What kind of texture is on the ceiling? Good luck!
Thanks. Planning to do it this weekend. The texture is like your ceiling.
Thanks to your video, it turned out great. It only took me two coats of mud, and the worst part was the waiting as it dried. I let my wife do the texture and she did a pro job. Just need to paint it tomorrow. Thanks again, Alan.
Awesome! I love hearing of successful repairs!
Thank you so much! very informative. I have a question though. What do you recommend for cleaning your tool once you're done?
just water and a regular dish sponge.
Thank you!
Pretty good explanation :):) nice job done!!
Thanks for watching!
What if I don’t put the wood up nor the nails but just tape & mud. It still should stick correct??
Depends on the size. The weight of the patch might make it drop. You can try a “blowout patch.” I have a video for that too.
m.ua-cam.com/video/UIES4bnzeCI/v-deo.html
Alan Clegg perfect vid. Thanks.
Excellent! This is the trade skill that I'm very weak at. You make it look easy, I'll have to study your video again for this weekend when I install ceiling fans with no attic space. GReat work Alan!
Thanks for watching! I hope it turns out awesome!
It's a how to. and a don't do it this way vid. lol J/K good patch.
We didn't have a power on the ceiling of the patio, and to bring it there I hired one electrician from a decent company "MileStone". He brought the wire there, but failed to cut the hole for the pan electrical box symmetrically, so the load bearing joist is going not through the center of that hole, but slightly shifted (not more that ~1/4"). The electrician attached the box not to the center of the stud, as a result, so the stud got slightly split, and the box itself was sitting on two #6 screws (~1.5") and one big (~#12-14) short screw on the end of the box. Maybe it would hold like that for couple years, but I like solid work, so decided to redo it. Not sure is it better to cut out the ceiling more (but then you need to patch it), or strengthen somehow the bottom of that joist in addition to the glue for wood "Gorilla" and pieces of wood I used with clamps to close the splits and unnecessary multiple holes the technician did. I would appreciate any opinion on the question: is it better to cut a bigger hole or just to strengthen that joist. The ceiling on our patio is from some kind of plywood, it is not drywall. Is it hard to patch it? Thank you for the great film.
This is exactly how I've been fixing drywall patches for about 18 years. I always talk people out of using those hot patches from Lowes and Home Depot. They're a waste of money.
Preach!
I have a mobile home and the ceiling panels arent drywall I'm not sure what material they are...would this work too with the different ceiling material?
Hmmmm... I don’t know. I can tell you that this material is not flexible so any movement of the joint will crack it. That’s about all I can say about it.
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Nice work brother
Thanks for watching and good luck on your patch!
After seeing your video I have the confidence to fix my similar patch in the ceiling. But my texture is different. I don't know how to paint similar texture.
Luckily, getting a smooth patch in preparation for application of the texture is the hard part. If you don’t like the texture you apply, wipe it off with a towel or use a 12” drywall knife to smooth it out. I didn’t make a texture video but I’m sure there are plenty on UA-cam. Good luck!
Even better than using tape is a caulking gun around edge with fast drying liquid nails. Then you only need a tiny amount of mixture to level out. Quick sand then it’s flawless
Nice video, but your title should be "Easy drywall ceiling patch with you have the ceiling debris left"
Cutting a new piece shouldn't be too difficult hopefully.
Great Video, Thanks for sharing it. It really help me big time.
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Man you make it so hard. Cut a square 2 or more inches square all the way around. scribe on the back. Break off the excess. Slip it in with mud and done. No wood or screws. Been doing for many years and now way would I do it your way unless really needed some serious backing.
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That's some good info, helps this old paperhanger. Does the twenty min mud have some working time and sand easy? I had some fast drying mud once dry could not sand
Yes!!!! Thanks for bringing that up. I wish I would have thought to mention it because that’s important. 20 min mud has plenty of working time for patching purposes and sands easily when it’s completely dry (the next day).
I hope you don't need to cut a hole there again! Cutting through those boards would be a doosy! Cheers!
True story!
i don't want my wife to tell her girlfriends what a bad job i done on the patching in!
I messed up one patch by the front door and she LOVES to point it out!
so you didn't need to sand between first and 2nd coat?
You don’t have to get the first coat SUPER smooth. As long as its decent without huge lumps or anything, you should be able to jump right into the second coat. If your first coat is too rough to make smooth, you may have to sand it a bit between coats.
I've only known you for 17 minutes, but I feel a strange connection. Did we just become best friends?
No way! I was just thinking the same thing!
Alan Clegg You should do a video on turning two beds into a bunk bed. More room for activities. Goshdangit, I love videos for stupid people. ..
If did, I would probably say "People would pay money for this!"
I'm just getting started with drywall and such and am still learning a lot. Probably been mentioned already, but you said you wait 20 minutes and check for hardness, so does that mean you're using Easy Sand 20, or what kind of joint compound do you recommend/use for this?
I use the Easy Sand 20 but you should NOT try to sand it after 20 minutes. It will not be ready yet. You can add more mud but no sanding. If you need to sand it, do it the next day. Thank you for watching!
awesome video and awesome comments!
Filler, uk. mud yanks and Australians.
Lol...sure we will use safety glasses following your instruction :)
Yes! Be smarter than me!
I'm now retired but did home remodeling for years... just about every job I worked on needed some kind of patch work... when I was done you could not find the hole I patched, whether it was an old electrical outlet or switch to 4 foot holes in ceilings... I used to do what was called a "California patch" which is very similar to what's being done here but with a bit less work... my patch work was stronger than the wall around it... needless to say home owners and landlords loved my work and I got most of my jobs by word of mouth alone
Is this the patch you’re talking about?
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great video! i'm a girl and it's my first time patching drywall.. drill is really not going into the furring strips. they are 3/4 inch and my screws are 1.5in. Is it not going in because I dont have enough power to push into the wood? or what is the problem?
my drill is 18v PLEASE HELP!!
Your drill is fine. Are you using drywall screws? If you’re using some other type of screw, it will be pretty difficult and the end product might be weird. If youre using drywall screws you may just have to press harder when you drill. Hold the wood down with your other hand while you’re drilling.
Thank you very much for the instruction. I’m going to give it a try. I think the hard part will be matching the texturing. Am I to make a new batch of mud before the second application?
Yes. New batch of mud for every application if you’re using 20 minute mud or any other hot mud.
For the stakes, can i use the wooden stirring stick that they give you when you buy paint?
im a girl and my boyfriend punched two holes in my wall ...and i rent this place so i was so scared to ask my landlord to fix it and this helped so much ...very informative video and you made it so easy for me to do it ...now that i know how to do this it makes me want to fix ither things lol
lizamairy valle I hope you got rid of the holes and the boy friend!
get a new boyfriend
Dump him you can do better.
first its the walls, then its you......leave that little girl
Find a real man like me. Very handy in every way.
Search out the "California patch" I started using these for drywall patching a while back during new cable pulls & rewires... The results are really good.
I’ve used the California patch a few times. You’re right. It is very helpful. I actually made a video on how to do them. Check it out and leave some feedback.
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I guess there was no sanding to do, right?
I didn’t have to sand this one but sometimes I do.
Great video!
I’m glad you liked it. Thanks for watching!
Should have scraped off the "boogers" and raised lines first before the 2nd coat...just a suggestion. Nice video tho.
Chuck
That’s good advice! Thanks for watching.
I use fiba fuse fiberglass tape and black and green bucket pre mixed mudd it takes longer but I can usually coat it later on in the day. I work as a commercial electrician and I’ve never seen them use bag mudd unless filling in holes
You wouldn’t use bag mud on a commercial job. They’ll lay down boxes and boxes of mud in a day then come back and sand it a week later. This technique is just for patching small holes from start to finish in the same day. Thanks for watching.
Good video , now I know to repair my ceiling whole
Not that easy with an existing orange peel texture. Trying to spray on texture will never look as good as skip trowel texture. Good Job, nice video
Thank you for watching!
Hi Alan...what do you call that "MUD"....in our side of the world....mud is mud....lol ...is it a paste or filler?....thank you.
It’s 20 min drywall joint compound.
So that's how its done. When the HVAC guys put the unit in the roof space they cut a hole in the ceiling to install it. Now I have a hole and the drywall that went in it. Great video lesson so I can fix it.
You’re gonna do awesome! Good luck and thanks for watching.