The 2.3l is really reliable tho I've worked on some with 120k miles (not the bronco) that just asked for a oil and filter change, a bit of carbon build up on the valves nothing else ,some people claimed 200k miles out of their 2.3 it really depends on the driving and maintenance if you're gonna abuse it and skip oil changes get the 4runner but if you're a careful owner and do everything by the book even if you drive it hard you can still expect the bronco to last a long time
I love my 4Runner. It is bulletproof. Takes me to all my off the grid fishing spots and is still a comfy daily. And its reliable. Never had any issues.
I had to replace the transmission in my Ford Explorer at 104,000 miles. Prior to the Explorer I had a Bronco and had to replace the transmission at 114,000 miles. I switched to 4Runners and will stay with them as long as Toyota makes them.
I’m obsessed with my 40th anniversary edition 4Runner…I looked at the Bronco but for me there was absolutely no debate. I’ve owned it 3 months now and I’ve never been so obsessed with a possession… It’s weird lol. I just turned 40 years old and was born the same year the 4 Runner came out so I’ve seen and respected them my whole life…Im a car guy and traded in my GTI for it. The GTI was an awesome car that I loved too. No issues with it besides occasional electrical quirks. But the obsession that hasn’t gone away since trading in for the 4 runner is real. So well made feeling. I like the smooth truck feel on the rode and shitty roads. It’s just a pleasure and I find the hydraulic steering an odd pleasure too. No it’s not super responsive or tight like my GTI…No I don’t smoothly effortlessly fly up hills at low rpm’s like my GTI did….But I’m 40 now and don’t care. I like the smooth daddy 4 Runner. The only thing I’d trade it for in the future is MUCH better gas mileage.
A few weeks ago I hit a road sign, drove off a small bridge and rolled my 4 runner limited twice. The paramedic said he couldn’t believe I walked away from that accident. And all I had was a seat belt burn. I wish I could post a picture of how well it held up. I just bought a Premium to replace it because I like the more rugged look. I really thought about getting the Bronco until I watched this and read all the comments so thanks everyone!
I ended up buying a Bronco this January. I test drove a 4Runner, and Bronco Sasquatch V6. The V6 just ran better and hauled more butt than the 4Runner. And the Bronco was more fun to drive. Very responsive on the Highway and city, and with crazy tourist divers where I live, I needed something that responded well. And at the end of the day, it did more of the things I wanted to do. Doors off. Roof off. I know that’s apples and oranges to the 4Runner, but that is what pushed me over. And at now 24k miles, fingers crossed, no issues.
As a prior 4runner owner and many other Toyota's, I too was smitten by the Bronco's good looks and ended up buying one. The guilt and shame!!! It was my first Ford and honestly, other than the few and minor negatives that you pointed out about the Bronco, I really cant complain after 40k. I flirt around with the idea of going back to a 4runner or the new Land Cruiser, but the Bronco's hard to let go of. Ford did a great job with it. Outstanding video! You pretty much nailed it!
I owned a 2018 4Runner trdOffRoad and it really was a fantastic vehicle. Very comfortable. The 4.0L engine is great and surprisingly well matched to the 5 speed auto. But towing needs now have me in a 21 f150 (diesel) which I also love for different reasons. Folks complain about Ford quality, but my experience with my f150 has been great. The truck is holding up well no no real issues so far in 30k miles. Can’t speak for quality or durability of the bronco, though. They certainly don’t make as many of those s they do the truck (which they produce a bazillion of each year).
Unfortunately the 4Runner comes only with an automatic transmission, and the closest brother is the Tacoma which is way too slow. I went with the Bronco 2.3 Manual, 2 doors. 9k miles with Zero issues.
Bought a used 2014 ORP with 80k miles, did my research and checked thoroughly for any abuse or neglect. Comes with no warranty, and no warranty needed so far. Now have added 15k miles and I love how strong its body is and have added a ladder and a Sherpa rail. Been in a few adventures
@Realistick , thank you for sharing your detailed experience of suspension response on different types of terrain! it is so hard to find, especially for highway and small/middle city bumps, which you'll definitely have for a daily car
Both beautiful, iconic vehicles! I just purchased my 2nd 4Runner, a new, 2023 TRD ORP in stunning "ice cap"; absolutely love the vehicle! I purchased a new SR5 4Runner way back in '95, and got 350,000 hard-driven miles out of her. TOYOTA 4Runners are legendary!
I went the same route, but in the Lime Rush, as I wanted something crazy that looks like it belongs in the mountains off road. Got a Montana trip (Midwesterner here) planned for end of May.
I've owned two 4Runners and absolutely loved them except going up steep mountain roads. Tomorrow I pick up my Bronco. In a couple years I hope to buy the new Landcruiser 250. We shall see.
I have a 23 Basesquatch with 780 miles on it and its at the dealership for electrical/Charging system problems. The bronco looks awesome but Iam thinking about trading it in for a new trd orp.
First day Bronco reservation holder, finally got it earlier this year. Kept my 4Runner though, have way too many mods and money into it to let it go. lol
Compliment to how you do your reviews and hit your points. They're realistic and cater to all potential drivers while talking about equipment, comparing to other vehicles and even price or cost to repair in mind. Can you do a review on the new Honda Pilot sport? Or Pilot Sport vs anything 3rd row and off road capable
Got rid of my Toyotas and purchased 2 Broncos and, a Maverick hybrid. Not worried about reliability. I’ve had Fords in the past and to me they have been reliable.
My brother and son in law have ford broncos, my son in laws has been in the shop numerous times for transmission problems and is in the shop right now. My brother's hasn't been as bad but its been in the shop because the turbo has been acting up. I have a 2023 4runner OR and they wished they had my vehicle.
the coolness wears off fast if it's in the shop often getting fixed, ive had my share of unreliable vehicles . I swallowed the price of a 4runner , it was hard...yeah it doesnt have tons of power but I dont ever worry about breaking down
It was an easy call for me, sway bar disconnects (way more articulation), front and rear lockers, full skidplates and rock rails, Steel bumpers, better offroad tech, convertible and looks amazing
Bought a 2023 TRD Off Road Premium in Oct. of last year. Taking it off roading in Montana end of May. I'll let you know how that goes, but from everything I've read and watched on UA-cam, the 4Runner out preforms the Bronco off road.
Back from Montana now, the 2023 has 4 cameras, back up, front facing and two on the mirrors. The front and side cameras come on when in crawl mode and make navigating tought terrain extremely easy. Took it up and down mountains some descends on very narrow, 7 degree grade very rocky terrain. Largest were about the size of basketballs. Took her in to get looked over before driving back and everything was tip top shape.
Having owned both and having taken both off-road many times, unfortunately that just isn’t true. In almost every aspect of off-roading, the Bronco outperforms the 4Runner. But that’s also expected, as the Bronco is an off-road focused vehicle, where the 4Runner is more of an on-road/off-road hybrid. And there’s nothing wrong at all with that. For 90%+ of all drivers, the 4Runner serves its purpose. But for those who actively take part in frequent off-road driving, the Bronco is clearly the way to go.
@Rapaglia1 idk I watched a ton of use reviews and the 4Runners technology made off roading way easier for the regular guy. Now if you're taking tip top preforming, you might be correct.
@@joshualinse9000 I’m speaking from personal experience. If the average off-roader wanted to take their 4Runner through a mountain trail, sure. It’ll handle it just fine. When you start adding 35”, 37”, 40”, 44” etc. tires to the 4Runner, it starts to seriously degrade performance. With that, you have to change out the gearing as well. The 4Runner also doesn’t have a sway bar disconnect which is a huge advantage for the Bronco. I like 4Runners. I think they’re great vehicles. But the bottom line is that they are made more for the average driver to drive on the road with occasionally taking it on trails or through other off-road terrain. And it’ll manage that just fine. It’s just that you can’t do many upgrades to it without having to do major tuning and calibrating. The Bronco, on the other hand is purpose-built for off-road driving. Adding larger tires and even bigger lift kits is no problem. Not to mention, because the Bronco is more versatile and more customizable than the 4Runner, it has access to an entirely separate upgrade market of parts and performance tuning. As far as on-road daily driving, it’s better handling, smoother, and easier-driving than the Jeep Wrangler, but not as good as the 4Runner. Again, in my experience, it’s a great daily on-road driver with good power delivery, excellent safety features, and all of the creature comforts that you need. The Bronco is perfectly suited for daily driving; just not as comprehensively as the 4Runner. What I’m saying is that the Bronco is a much better 2-way vehicle than the 4Runner. The 4Runner is a much more functional and comfortable daily driver, but it’s not as comprehensive as an off-road rig than the Bronco. It just depends on what my driving goals are. Both have their strengths and weaknesses as far as how and where you choose to drive. There are many situations where I’d rather have the 4Runner. But there are many more situations where I’d rather have the Bronco.
I really wanted to have the Bronco Badlands in the running for my money last year. They wanted around $15k over MSRP, worse availability, and still had some issues. Now have a TRD Pro at MSRP.
This will be the last vehicle built to last look at every vehicle coming out it's like throw away after 5 years come 2025 you will wish you bought one before. If you're a person that gets a new car every 5 years doesn't matter but if you want something that will last your family safe and go pretty much anywhere 4runner is a no brainer and yes I own a 23 off road premium and love it.
I have a 4Runner 5th gen ORD but I definitely like the Bronco as well. If I had the money , and then some? I’d buy both. Although I opted with the reliability and all around balance of the 4Runner. Edit: for handling ; I found that switching over to 4hi dramatically improves handling. It seemingly reduces body role or at least gives a much more confident feel to handling. I would dare say night and day difference. Try it out. (Under 50mph)
Price be darned, I'm on waiting lists for both the forthcoming Lexus GX550 and Toyota Sequoia TRD Pro (2024). Test-driving a 4Runner, I found it just a bit too underpowered compared to my '17 Tacoma. I liked much of the Bronco's specs, but can't get over its unreliability. I wouldn't have the time or patience to have its top-of-the-line engine go out and need replacing, taking ~7 weeks. Given the two choices in this video, I'd go with the 4Runner.
Key to any off-road SUV is extreme reliability. With all the problems with Ford ecoboost engines. Why can’t other manufacturers make non-interference engines like Toyota does?
I'm in my 50's. When I buy things that are large ticket items now and I'm on the fence between two or three brands/models, I ask myself one deciding question. Which would I want more if (when) society collapse(s)d and the SH'sTF? I have purchased 2 vehicles in the last 3 years. One is a Tundra. The other is a 4Runner. I want the best odds.
The sticker price on my 22' 2 door Bronco Base manual was $28,500. The 35" Mickey Thompson Baja Boss were a little extra but at the time manual transmission wasn't available with the Sasquatch package so I elected not to go with the Sasquatch. Coming up on 20,000 miles with no issues. I wouldn't want any other vehicle. I drove a 4 Runner once, and the body roll was absurd.
I did actually have 1 issue right off the bat, there was a problem with the headlight switch and the headlights would come on randomly after being parked for about an hour, stay on for about 10 minutes and then shut off. It was fixed for free simply by getting a new headlight switch and problem was solved.
@AngelMartinez-kf1dg I put my reservation in June of 2020 for a 2021 and the price was $28,500. There were so many delays that it kept getting pushed back. Eventually they said it won't be available until 2022 so they upgraded me at no extra charge for the 22' model which I got in March of 22'. New Brighton Ford in Minnesota.
See I want the off road capability that both offer but I don’t get the time to get off road as much as I’d like. I’d also like tow my smaller camper and with plans to start a family soon, I feel like the 4Runner is the better choice for me. I don’t care for the newest fanciest tech, I want reliability for decades, I like interior space of the 4Runner and don’t see myself taking the doors or roof off much. That’s why I’m planing on getting a 4Runner at the start of next year could do it sooner but I want to save up a large down payment to keep the payments low.
Would love to know why your Dad chose the Ford over a Wrangler, it does many of the same things (Ford copied most characteristics from it) and I think you can still order one with a Manual.
It’s like the wrangler but most things are more thought out (especially with taking off the doors) and the manual is better, the interior was more fresh and he liked the style of the bronco too.
Broncos are more comfortable on road and maybe 10% - 15% less capable off road, depending on the trim and packages, than a Wrangler from my experience.
The features and looks and power of the Ford Bronco are absolutely amazing! Butttttt I know a 4 Runner will be worth close to MSRP several years after buying and will very slowly lose value. The Ford will tank so quick. There’s dealers near me hanging on to Broncos for months because they aren’t selling.
I don’t really understand the hate for the 4Runner’s 8 inch screen. Yeah the back up cam is pretty bad for sure. The screen though looks very purposely built in and is more than sharp enough for apple care play, which is all that anyone uses.
It doesn’t deserve hate, I appreciate its simplicity but it does deserve criticism for the camera quality, response time and meh resolution/brightness. Id rather have it over a lot of full digital setups that imbed the hvac controls.
“Poorly kept roads” is the reason people should consider the 4Runner. I don’t know about your city but mine has crappy roads with annoying man hole covers, pot holes and seemingly perpetual construction. Also, global warming is bringing crazy weather that will only continue to get worsen the roads. You can keep selling faster and more responsive off roaders that impersonate car like driving but people have no reason to be driving as such.
Toyotas reliability is true when it comes to onroad and a little offroad to the campsite. But real off-roading where you do some rockcrawling that’s where the 4Runner will lose against the Bronco or the Wrangler. First of all, once you put 33” tires in the 4Runner, your mpg goes to hell and the shifting gets way off going uphills. Both Bronco and the now the Wrangler can have 35” tires from the factory in turn has the proper gearing installed from the factory as well. Also, the 5th gen 4 runner only has a 5 speed tranny, which xponentially gets worse when you install 33” tires. You’ll want to at least install 33” tires on the 4-runner if you want to get some good ground clearance, but its efficiency goes down the tubes. A 4-runner with 33” tires gets an average of 14mpg on road trips if you average 80-85mph on the fwy when the Bronco with 35” tires gets about 17mpg. And the Bronco doesn’t have to downshift even going uphill, and if it has to, it has 10 gears so it will not start screaming from 1 gear lower. But the 4Runner stock is definitely good and reliable.
I have 33's and my average is 17.4 mpg with falken c rated wildpeaks on my 4runner. It's all about weight and how much armor ur putting on ur rig IMO. Im also high elevation which helps.
People use Toyota because they take more abuse than junk fords.That’s the reason arabs use Toyota not shitty fords.Africans use Toyota,Australia use Toyota every in the world covered by Toyota.
You might want to rethink about your storey, there's alot of 4runner's out there that has gone places where jeeps have crawled, don't kid yourself, 4runner's can hold their own and still bring you back.
@@johnwebb2232 I don’t doubt that. But you’ll have to add on upgrades that will cost a lot of money like gearing since Toyotas only come in 32” tires. When 35” is the new 33”. Ok the new Tacom’s looks like it can fit a 35” tires, but it still doesn’t offer it install by the factory. Buying the top of the line 4Runner, you still need to upgrade it with gears and bigger tires. Jeep & Ford you don’t have to upgrade. You can upgrade any rig! But it’ll cost you.
After having owned a 2022 4Runner, and now a 2.7L Bronco Outer Banks with Sasquatch, Lux and High packages, I will never buy another 4Runner again. First of all, everybody drives them. They’re not special. But not that many people own Broncos. On top of that, the 4Runners are boring, slow, and getting outdated. Even the new 4Runners are already going to be lacking behind in engine performance and electronics. While they’re reliable vehicles, they’re not nearly as rugged or capable as the Bronco. On top of that, they’re just like any closed platform vehicle. With my Bronco, I can remove the top and doors and experience a true open-air driving experience. And the Bronco cool factor is way ahead of the 4Runner. The 4Runner might be a more comfortable on-road ride, but the Bronco’s road handling is just more fun. And if I’m going to have a vehicle for the next ten years or more, I want it to be one that I enjoy driving. So, because of the enjoyment factor, the driving experience, the on and off-road capability, the better amenities, and the more customizable options, the Bronco is the clear choice for me. And don’t get me wrong - I love the 4Runners. They’re a symbol of standing the test of time. I had a great time with mine. But all things considered, compared to the Bronco, they’re just not in the same class.
I own a 22 TRDORP, so I am biased. I did however cross shop it with a Gladiator and Bronco. I love them all for their own reasons, but the 4Runner is just more solid, comfortable, and way more roomy than either while being just as or more capable off road than either of the other two options. Biggest issues I have with the bronco are reliability concerns, fit and finish, and cheap interiors. Ford in general needs to step up their game on interior quality and touch surfaces.
I hear that, though it’s also important to remember they can’t do near as much with interior quality when the doors and roof are removable. If they had a fixed top version it would be much much more refined!
@@Realistick but the cheap interiors are not specific to Bronco only. You can look at the Explorer, Mustang, F series pickups, etc and see/feel super cheap plastics and the fit and finish is horrible. For instance, compare the pickups of the big three (Ford/GM/Ram) and Ford is way behind in quality. So it’s not, to me, exclusive to the Bronco. The Wrangler/Gladiator has removable doors/roof and has much better quality soft touch bits.
@@Christopherthill I suppose if you're comparing all Fords to the 4runner (I'm not too well acquainted with ford's other stuff). The RAV4 and Corolla based models are pretty cheap feeling too (especially the corollas). I disagree on the Wrangler, at least the last one I was in felt very similar, better in some areas, worse in others.
Have a WildTrak and it’s great. Whereas o agree on the Toyota reliability I just find the styling to be very boring. Always has been for me. I just don’t get excited about them. Not sure why.
This isn’t really a fair comparison, as you’re comparing an off-road designed utility vehicle (Bronco) to a road-focused light sport utility car (4Runner). It’s like comparing a cold cut hoagie with a premium gourmet lobster roll and a bag of Doritos. While the cold cut hoagie will taste good and satisfy your stomach growling, it won’t get you much more than that. But the lobster roll is going to taste great - better than the hoagie - AND give you another flavor and texture with the Doritos. So, ask yourself - what is your end goal? Is it to taste good and fill your stomach, or is it to taste better and offer you a more exciting eating experience?
I love to make analogies but the 4Runner is objectively not a "light sport utility car." It's not just marketing either, it has a truck frame, solid rear axle, 4WD, etc. The big difference is that the Bronco can go topless which creates a set of compromises. The owner of this Bronco used to own a fifth gen 4Runner too so I'd say it's fair to compare the two.
4runner is just built differently. Literally. Yeah, Jeeps and Broncos are kind of cool for what they are paid but I think compares to a 4Runner. It's in its own league of its class. People bug you about liking reliability and durability, how could you not like that? It's rugged nice looking and badass as fuck
The concept of the Bronco is fantastic, I just don't have confidence in the quality in the Fords motor and transmission. Hmm... maybe a Toyota motor and transmission swap!!!
I feel pretty confident with the 2.3, it’s been solid in other products! We’ll see how it ages, im really curious how the transmissions do in the long run. Maybe Toyota will revive the fj sometime!? I’m probably delusional.
Current 4Runner has fallen way behind the curve. Price to value just isn’t there anymore. It’s grossly underpowered and gets horrible MPG. I mean….it doesn’t even come with a powered lift gate. And its backup camera is a joke. Seriously Toyota? For the amount they’re charging for this dinosaur, a powered lift gate and better backup camera is not a big ask or update for this current gen model. People who are still buying this truck for $50K are getting taken.
Talk about things that you should worry about the LEAST. 🤣But hey, what do i know? 🤷♂️I only work in the ford service department replacing these items on FORDS FOR A LIVING as I pull in driving my 4runner that’s 10 years old.🤷♂️😂😉
@@Anomize23 LOL….my brother has a JGC that is 14 years old. No major issues. Still drives all over. You people act as if the 4Runner is the only vehicle that can last for ten years. Toyota fanboyism is a weird society.
I really, really wanted the bronco. Ultimately went 4runner for long term reliability (I know I know). No regrets.
I did the same as you and I would of had the family pricing with Ford, no regrets either.
Same
The 2.3l is really reliable tho I've worked on some with 120k miles (not the bronco) that just asked for a oil and filter change, a bit of carbon build up on the valves nothing else ,some people claimed 200k miles out of their 2.3 it really depends on the driving and maintenance if you're gonna abuse it and skip oil changes get the 4runner but if you're a careful owner and do everything by the book even if you drive it hard you can still expect the bronco to last a long time
Ive had a bronco Badlands for 60 000 hard miles. I drive offroad most weekends and lots of winter driving. 0 issues
I love my 4Runner. It is bulletproof. Takes me to all my off the grid fishing spots and is still a comfy daily. And its reliable. Never had any issues.
I will never daily drive anything other than a 4Runner. My '06 is a tank and asks for nothing but fuel. I respect the Bronco, but 4Runner for life.
I had to replace the transmission in my Ford Explorer at 104,000 miles. Prior to the Explorer I had a Bronco and had to replace the transmission at 114,000 miles. I switched to 4Runners and will stay with them as long as Toyota makes them.
Have a 15’ 4R. But want a open top for kids. What keeps you away?
4runners still all made in Japan, quality everytime, and very upgradable.
Bronco more fun, plus japs bombed Pearl harbor and lost lmao
Dude, your videos keep getting better and better, even I’m not a big fan of those vehicles, I still watch the entire review. Keep up the great work !
Thanks for watching, it’s always great to hear that!
I’m obsessed with my 40th anniversary edition 4Runner…I looked at the Bronco but for me there was absolutely no debate. I’ve owned it 3 months now and I’ve never been so obsessed with a possession… It’s weird lol. I just turned 40 years old and was born the same year the 4 Runner came out so I’ve seen and respected them my whole life…Im a car guy and traded in my GTI for it. The GTI was an awesome car that I loved too. No issues with it besides occasional electrical quirks. But the obsession that hasn’t gone away since trading in for the 4 runner is real. So well made feeling. I like the smooth truck feel on the rode and shitty roads. It’s just a pleasure and I find the hydraulic steering an odd pleasure too. No it’s not super responsive or tight like my GTI…No I don’t smoothly effortlessly fly up hills at low rpm’s like my GTI did….But I’m 40 now and don’t care. I like the smooth daddy 4 Runner. The only thing I’d trade it for in the future is MUCH better gas mileage.
A few weeks ago I hit a road sign, drove off a small bridge and rolled my 4 runner limited twice. The paramedic said he couldn’t believe I walked away from that accident. And all I had was a seat belt burn. I wish I could post a picture of how well it held up. I just bought a Premium to replace it because I like the more rugged look. I really thought about getting the Bronco until I watched this and read all the comments so thanks everyone!
Glad it kept you safe! Though id advise talking to owners of broncos and looking at iihs ratings rather than listening to haters in the comments😂
You suck at driving. Go pay a driving instructor before you kill someone
I ended up buying a Bronco this January. I test drove a 4Runner, and Bronco Sasquatch V6. The V6 just ran better and hauled more butt than the 4Runner. And the Bronco was more fun to drive. Very responsive on the Highway and city, and with crazy tourist divers where I live, I needed something that responded well.
And at the end of the day, it did more of the things I wanted to do. Doors off. Roof off. I know that’s apples and oranges to the 4Runner, but that is what pushed me over.
And at now 24k miles, fingers crossed, no issues.
Any updates on the bronco? Still running strong? Mileage update?
@slickman9696
Need updates man
how’s the bronco been?
As a prior 4runner owner and many other Toyota's, I too was smitten by the Bronco's good looks and ended up buying one. The guilt and shame!!! It was my first Ford and honestly, other than the few and minor negatives that you pointed out about the Bronco, I really cant complain after 40k. I flirt around with the idea of going back to a 4runner or the new Land Cruiser, but the Bronco's hard to let go of. Ford did a great job with it. Outstanding video! You pretty much nailed it!
You keeping the bronco? Have had the 4R for 10 yrs. But want a bronco for the kids in summer.
@ Yesir! I demoed the Land Cruiser and preferred the bronco.
I owned a 2018 4Runner trdOffRoad and it really was a fantastic vehicle. Very comfortable. The 4.0L engine is great and surprisingly well matched to the 5 speed auto. But towing needs now have me in a 21 f150 (diesel) which I also love for different reasons.
Folks complain about Ford quality, but my experience with my f150 has been great. The truck is holding up well no no real issues so far in 30k miles. Can’t speak for quality or durability of the bronco, though. They certainly don’t make as many of those s they do the truck (which they produce a bazillion of each year).
Give it some more time. Please, give us an update when something breaks.
No issues in 30k miles should be expected on any vehicle
I also Went with the 4 runner, old school technology we got the TRD Pro 4 runner definitely no regrets here.
Unfortunately the 4Runner comes only with an automatic transmission, and the closest brother is the Tacoma which is way too slow. I went with the Bronco 2.3 Manual, 2 doors. 9k miles with Zero issues.
That new taco with the 2.4 and mt may change it but the 2 door bronco is undoubtedly more fun, congrats!
The fact that you have to state 9k and no issues should tell you chose the wrong vehicle 👎
Life is too short to keep it boring @@TonyTundra5.7
@@TonyTundra5.7u a 🤡
@@TonyTundra5.7you can keep getting scammed by Toyota if you want 😂😂😂😂
Need to get this generation of 4Runner before it’s gone.
Bought a used 2014 ORP with 80k miles, did my research and checked thoroughly for any abuse or neglect. Comes with no warranty, and no warranty needed so far. Now have added 15k miles and I love how strong its body is and have added a ladder and a Sherpa rail. Been in a few adventures
Very entertaining video. Thanks!
@Realistick , thank you for sharing your detailed experience of suspension response on different types of terrain! it is so hard to find, especially for highway and small/middle city bumps, which you'll definitely have for a daily car
Both beautiful, iconic vehicles! I just purchased my 2nd 4Runner, a new, 2023 TRD ORP in stunning "ice cap"; absolutely love the vehicle! I purchased a new SR5 4Runner way back in '95, and got 350,000 hard-driven miles out of her. TOYOTA 4Runners are legendary!
I went the same route, but in the Lime Rush, as I wanted something crazy that looks like it belongs in the mountains off road. Got a Montana trip (Midwesterner here) planned for end of May.
I've owned two 4Runners and absolutely loved them except going up steep mountain roads. Tomorrow I pick up my Bronco. In a couple years I hope to buy the new Landcruiser 250. We shall see.
Not a couple years. They get released in April of 2024! You can get one next year!
@@isaiahslucher7400 Yes I know, but I need to pay off the Bronco just bought before I throw down another $50k+ next year.
@@isaiahslucher7400it’s 4 cylinder trash
Thank you nice review. Pops got a nice pony
Kdss system really helps to stop the nose dive, I don’t notice the nose dive on mine
I have a 23 Basesquatch with 780 miles on it and its at the dealership for electrical/Charging system problems. The bronco looks awesome but Iam thinking about trading it in for a new trd orp.
Thanks for doing this!
First day Bronco reservation holder, finally got it earlier this year. Kept my 4Runner though, have way too many mods and money into it to let it go. lol
It seems that if you want to go offroad more often, the Bronco is the better bet vs the 4runner. You aren't wrong that the 4runner is a virtual tank.
Compliment to how you do your reviews and hit your points. They're realistic and cater to all potential drivers while talking about equipment, comparing to other vehicles and even price or cost to repair in mind. Can you do a review on the new Honda Pilot sport? Or Pilot Sport vs anything 3rd row and off road capable
I may try shooting my shot on a honda dealer soon as honda themselves will likely send the most expensive version out there!
@@Realistick awesome.
Got rid of my Toyotas and purchased 2 Broncos and, a Maverick hybrid. Not worried about reliability. I’ve had Fords in the past and to me they have been reliable.
Lol, Ford reliability is ranked 21st out of 32 brands nowdays.
I've owned 3 fords in the past ...... and its gonna stay that way.
My brother and son in law have ford broncos, my son in laws has been in the shop numerous times for transmission problems and is in the shop right now. My brother's hasn't been as bad but its been in the shop because the turbo has been acting up. I have a 2023 4runner OR and they wished they had my vehicle.
Excellent video. Informative and entertaining
I would have loved to get a Bronco, but the dealerships want $20k over msrp for a 2 year old used one with 20k miles .....
the coolness wears off fast if it's in the shop often getting fixed, ive had my share of unreliable vehicles . I swallowed the price of a 4runner , it was hard...yeah it doesnt have tons of power but I dont ever worry about breaking down
It was an easy call for me, sway bar disconnects (way more articulation), front and rear lockers, full skidplates and rock rails, Steel bumpers, better offroad tech, convertible and looks amazing
I live in Wisconsin, slept in te 4 runner in 20f night absolutely comfortable.
I went from a 22 4Runner to a Bronco and back to a 24 4Runner. Can’t beat Toyota refinement.
The 4s kick ass😂
Will never own another ford. Love my off road Toyota 4runner
Bought a 2023 TRD Off Road Premium in Oct. of last year. Taking it off roading in Montana end of May. I'll let you know how that goes, but from everything I've read and watched on UA-cam, the 4Runner out preforms the Bronco off road.
Back from Montana now, the 2023 has 4 cameras, back up, front facing and two on the mirrors. The front and side cameras come on when in crawl mode and make navigating tought terrain extremely easy. Took it up and down mountains some descends on very narrow, 7 degree grade very rocky terrain. Largest were about the size of basketballs. Took her in to get looked over before driving back and everything was tip top shape.
Having owned both and having taken both off-road many times, unfortunately that just isn’t true. In almost every aspect of off-roading, the Bronco outperforms the 4Runner.
But that’s also expected, as the Bronco is an off-road focused vehicle, where the 4Runner is more of an on-road/off-road hybrid. And there’s nothing wrong at all with that. For 90%+ of all drivers, the 4Runner serves its purpose.
But for those who actively take part in frequent off-road driving, the Bronco is clearly the way to go.
@Rapaglia1 idk I watched a ton of use reviews and the 4Runners technology made off roading way easier for the regular guy. Now if you're taking tip top preforming, you might be correct.
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I’m speaking from personal experience. If the average off-roader wanted to take their 4Runner through a mountain trail, sure. It’ll handle it just fine. When you start adding 35”, 37”, 40”, 44” etc. tires to the 4Runner, it starts to seriously degrade performance. With that, you have to change out the gearing as well. The 4Runner also doesn’t have a sway bar disconnect which is a huge advantage for the Bronco.
I like 4Runners. I think they’re great vehicles. But the bottom line is that they are made more for the average driver to drive on the road with occasionally taking it on trails or through other off-road terrain. And it’ll manage that just fine. It’s just that you can’t do many upgrades to it without having to do major tuning and calibrating.
The Bronco, on the other hand is purpose-built for off-road driving. Adding larger tires and even bigger lift kits is no problem. Not to mention, because the Bronco is more versatile and more customizable than the 4Runner, it has access to an entirely separate upgrade market of parts and performance tuning. As far as on-road daily driving, it’s better handling, smoother, and easier-driving than the Jeep Wrangler, but not as good as the 4Runner. Again, in my experience, it’s a great daily on-road driver with good power delivery, excellent safety features, and all of the creature comforts that you need. The Bronco is perfectly suited for daily driving; just not as comprehensively as the 4Runner. What I’m saying is that the Bronco is a much better 2-way vehicle than the 4Runner. The 4Runner is a much more functional and comfortable daily driver, but it’s not as comprehensive as an off-road rig than the Bronco.
It just depends on what my driving goals are. Both have their strengths and weaknesses as far as how and where you choose to drive. There are many situations where I’d rather have the 4Runner. But there are many more situations where I’d rather have the Bronco.
I really wanted to have the Bronco Badlands in the running for my money last year. They wanted around $15k over MSRP, worse availability, and still had some issues. Now have a TRD Pro at MSRP.
Well done
This will be the last vehicle built to last look at every vehicle coming out it's like throw away after 5 years come 2025 you will wish you bought one before. If you're a person that gets a new car every 5 years doesn't matter but if you want something that will last your family safe and go pretty much anywhere 4runner is a no brainer and yes I own a 23 off road premium and love it.
I have a 4Runner 5th gen ORD but I definitely like the Bronco as well. If I had the money , and then some? I’d buy both. Although I opted with the reliability and all around balance of the 4Runner.
Edit: for handling ; I found that switching over to 4hi dramatically improves handling. It seemingly reduces body role or at least gives a much more confident feel to handling. I would dare say night and day difference. Try it out. (Under 50mph)
Price be darned, I'm on waiting lists for both the forthcoming Lexus GX550 and Toyota Sequoia TRD Pro (2024). Test-driving a 4Runner, I found it just a bit too underpowered compared to my '17 Tacoma. I liked much of the Bronco's specs, but can't get over its unreliability. I wouldn't have the time or patience to have its top-of-the-line engine go out and need replacing, taking ~7 weeks. Given the two choices in this video, I'd go with the 4Runner.
Key to any off-road SUV is extreme reliability. With all the problems with Ford ecoboost engines. Why can’t other manufacturers make non-interference engines like Toyota does?
I like the Bronco,.. it looks cooler and i drive a manual... so until the 4 runner gets a manual, I'm picking the manual 😎
your hair is amazing
What brand is that bull bar on the bronco?
I'm in my 50's. When I buy things that are large ticket items now and I'm on the fence between two or three brands/models, I ask myself one deciding question. Which would I want more if (when) society collapse(s)d and the SH'sTF? I have purchased 2 vehicles in the last 3 years. One is a Tundra. The other is a 4Runner. I want the best odds.
The sticker price on my 22' 2 door Bronco Base manual was $28,500. The 35" Mickey Thompson Baja Boss were a little extra but at the time manual transmission wasn't available with the Sasquatch package so I elected not to go with the Sasquatch. Coming up on 20,000 miles with no issues. I wouldn't want any other vehicle. I drove a 4 Runner once, and the body roll was absurd.
I did actually have 1 issue right off the bat, there was a problem with the headlight switch and the headlights would come on randomly after being parked for about an hour, stay on for about 10 minutes and then shut off. It was fixed for free simply by getting a new headlight switch and problem was solved.
How and where did you get that price
@AngelMartinez-kf1dg I put my reservation in June of 2020 for a 2021 and the price was $28,500. There were so many delays that it kept getting pushed back. Eventually they said it won't be available until 2022 so they upgraded me at no extra charge for the 22' model which I got in March of 22'. New Brighton Ford in Minnesota.
4RUNNER can't be beat. Great vehicle for the long term and trouble free.
See I want the off road capability that both offer but I don’t get the time to get off road as much as I’d like. I’d also like tow my smaller camper and with plans to start a family soon, I feel like the 4Runner is the better choice for me. I don’t care for the newest fanciest tech, I want reliability for decades, I like interior space of the 4Runner and don’t see myself taking the doors or roof off much. That’s why I’m planing on getting a 4Runner at the start of next year could do it sooner but I want to save up a large down payment to keep the payments low.
Would love to know why your Dad chose the Ford over a Wrangler, it does many of the same things (Ford copied most characteristics from it) and I think you can still order one with a Manual.
It’s like the wrangler but most things are more thought out (especially with taking off the doors) and the manual is better, the interior was more fresh and he liked the style of the bronco too.
Broncos are more comfortable on road and maybe 10% - 15% less capable off road, depending on the trim and packages, than a Wrangler from my experience.
The features and looks and power of the Ford Bronco are absolutely amazing!
Butttttt I know a 4 Runner will be worth close to MSRP several years after buying and will very slowly lose value.
The Ford will tank so quick. There’s dealers near me hanging on to Broncos for months because they aren’t selling.
The Bronco is cool with all the removable door and soft roof but i rather a vehicle that will last a LONGGGGGG time so i will choose that 4runner.
4 runner will last you a life time
for MSRP 4runner trd off road no opts
Own a 2022 and 2023 4Runner..... so I might be a little biased. :/ Wouldn't trade out or anything at this point.
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4Runner convert from 3 jeeps back to back.can’t beat the Toyota reliability!
That retro graphic on the side of the 4Runner is sick af.
The 4 runner runs. The bronco is a defect
Lmao!
I want to feel cooler than I really am so I will get a Bronco.
i don't ever remember a rivalry when i had my old 4runners ?
and wow ford vs toyota??? is that really a question worth asking?
I don’t really understand the hate for the 4Runner’s 8 inch screen. Yeah the back up cam is pretty bad for sure. The screen though looks very purposely built in and is more than sharp enough for apple care play, which is all that anyone uses.
It doesn’t deserve hate, I appreciate its simplicity but it does deserve criticism for the camera quality, response time and meh resolution/brightness. Id rather have it over a lot of full digital setups that imbed the hvac controls.
I really wish toyota would innovate more and not rely on "were reliable and youll buy it bc of that"
“Poorly kept roads” is the reason people should consider the 4Runner. I don’t know about your city but mine has crappy roads with annoying man hole covers, pot holes and seemingly perpetual construction. Also, global warming is bringing crazy weather that will only continue to get worsen the roads. You can keep selling faster and more responsive off roaders that impersonate car like driving but people have no reason to be driving as such.
In 10 years the 4runner will just be broken in while the ford will just be broken.Kenda tires on the Ford, you've got to be kidding..
The Bronco is super cool but the 4runner will out last them all, to include Jeep. 4runner was my choice.
my 2nd gen 4runner would out do both these rigs combined.
Toyotas reliability is true when it comes to onroad and a little offroad to the campsite. But real off-roading where you do some rockcrawling that’s where the 4Runner will lose against the Bronco or the Wrangler. First of all, once you put 33” tires in the 4Runner, your mpg goes to hell and the shifting gets way off going uphills. Both Bronco and the now the Wrangler can have 35” tires from the factory in turn has the proper gearing installed from the factory as well. Also, the 5th gen 4 runner only has a 5 speed tranny, which xponentially gets worse when you install 33” tires. You’ll want to at least install 33” tires on the 4-runner if you want to get some good ground clearance, but its efficiency goes down the tubes. A 4-runner with 33” tires gets an average of 14mpg on road trips if you average 80-85mph on the fwy when the Bronco with 35” tires gets about 17mpg. And the Bronco doesn’t have to downshift even going uphill, and if it has to, it has 10 gears so it will not start screaming from 1 gear lower. But the 4Runner stock is definitely good and reliable.
I have 33's and my average is 17.4 mpg with falken c rated wildpeaks on my 4runner. It's all about weight and how much armor ur putting on ur rig IMO. Im also high elevation which helps.
People use Toyota because they take more abuse than junk fords.That’s the reason arabs use Toyota not shitty fords.Africans use Toyota,Australia use Toyota every in the world covered by Toyota.
You might want to rethink about your storey, there's alot of 4runner's out there that has gone places where jeeps have crawled, don't kid yourself, 4runner's can hold their own and still bring you back.
@@johnwebb2232 I don’t doubt that. But you’ll have to add on upgrades that will cost a lot of money like gearing since Toyotas only come in 32” tires. When 35” is the new 33”. Ok the new Tacom’s looks like it can fit a 35” tires, but it still doesn’t offer it install by the factory. Buying the top of the line 4Runner, you still need to upgrade it with gears and bigger tires. Jeep & Ford you don’t have to upgrade. You can upgrade any rig! But it’ll cost you.
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After having owned a 2022 4Runner, and now a 2.7L Bronco Outer Banks with Sasquatch, Lux and High packages, I will never buy another 4Runner again. First of all, everybody drives them. They’re not special. But not that many people own Broncos.
On top of that, the 4Runners are boring, slow, and getting outdated. Even the new 4Runners are already going to be lacking behind in engine performance and electronics.
While they’re reliable vehicles, they’re not nearly as rugged or capable as the Bronco. On top of that, they’re just like any closed platform vehicle. With my Bronco, I can remove the top and doors and experience a true open-air driving experience. And the Bronco cool factor is way ahead of the 4Runner.
The 4Runner might be a more comfortable on-road ride, but the Bronco’s road handling is just more fun. And if I’m going to have a vehicle for the next ten years or more, I want it to be one that I enjoy driving.
So, because of the enjoyment factor, the driving experience, the on and off-road capability, the better amenities, and the more customizable options, the Bronco is the clear choice for me.
And don’t get me wrong - I love the 4Runners. They’re a symbol of standing the test of time. I had a great time with mine. But all things considered, compared to the Bronco, they’re just not in the same class.
Another Ford "EFFORT"..... well said !
I own a 22 TRDORP, so I am biased. I did however cross shop it with a Gladiator and Bronco. I love them all for their own reasons, but the 4Runner is just more solid, comfortable, and way more roomy than either while being just as or more capable off road than either of the other two options. Biggest issues I have with the bronco are reliability concerns, fit and finish, and cheap interiors. Ford in general needs to step up their game on interior quality and touch surfaces.
I hear that, though it’s also important to remember they can’t do near as much with interior quality when the doors and roof are removable. If they had a fixed top version it would be much much more refined!
@@Realistick but the cheap interiors are not specific to Bronco only. You can look at the Explorer, Mustang, F series pickups, etc and see/feel super cheap plastics and the fit and finish is horrible. For instance, compare the pickups of the big three (Ford/GM/Ram) and Ford is way behind in quality. So it’s not, to me, exclusive to the Bronco. The Wrangler/Gladiator has removable doors/roof and has much better quality soft touch bits.
@@Christopherthill I suppose if you're comparing all Fords to the 4runner (I'm not too well acquainted with ford's other stuff). The RAV4 and Corolla based models are pretty cheap feeling too (especially the corollas). I disagree on the Wrangler, at least the last one I was in felt very similar, better in some areas, worse in others.
If only the 4Runner offered a manual
Trash in ten years VS treasure in 20+ yrs.😂
Have a WildTrak and it’s great. Whereas o agree on the Toyota reliability I just find the styling to be very boring. Always has been for me. I just don’t get excited about them. Not sure why.
Very boring…don’t care if it last 20 years if I don’t wanna drive it.
Never get a ford over a toyota, yall know that
Toyota is overhyped, overpriced Japanese junk.
@@kennethjohnson4964 Said nobody ever.
@@stevenm6301 You must like vehicles with rusted out frames.
@@kennethjohnson4964 Ha, butt hurt Ford fanboy thinks Ford's reliability is anywhere NEAR Toyota's...
Found on Road Dead. You are right my friend!
4 runner in any trim is built with integrity You will see if you buy Bronco
The 4Runner is built better than basically everything. The Bronco isn’t bad for what it is and better than any Wrangler I’ve encountered.
This is a no brainer, the 4Runner hands down.
This isn’t really a fair comparison, as you’re comparing an off-road designed utility vehicle (Bronco) to a road-focused light sport utility car (4Runner). It’s like comparing a cold cut hoagie with a premium gourmet lobster roll and a bag of Doritos.
While the cold cut hoagie will taste good and satisfy your stomach growling, it won’t get you much more than that. But the lobster roll is going to taste great - better than the hoagie - AND give you another flavor and texture with the Doritos. So, ask yourself - what is your end goal? Is it to taste good and fill your stomach, or is it to taste better and offer you a more exciting eating experience?
I love to make analogies but the 4Runner is objectively not a "light sport utility car." It's not just marketing either, it has a truck frame, solid rear axle, 4WD, etc. The big difference is that the Bronco can go topless which creates a set of compromises. The owner of this Bronco used to own a fifth gen 4Runner too so I'd say it's fair to compare the two.
I can’t trust the Bronco engine(s) to last 250 or 300k miles…
not even a trd pro comon, 4runner all day. Broncos getting stuck out here on the rubicon.
EASY ANSWER. 4RUNNER OFCOURSE. 1 4RUNNER WILL OUT LIVE 4 BRONCO's OR MORE. FORD = UAW BUILT JUNK !!!
4runner is just built differently. Literally. Yeah, Jeeps and Broncos are kind of cool for what they are paid but I think compares to a 4Runner. It's in its own league of its class. People bug you about liking reliability and durability, how could you not like that? It's rugged nice looking and badass as fuck
The concept of the Bronco is fantastic, I just don't have confidence in the quality in the Fords motor and transmission. Hmm... maybe a Toyota motor and transmission swap!!!
I feel pretty confident with the 2.3, it’s been solid in other products! We’ll see how it ages, im really curious how the transmissions do in the long run. Maybe Toyota will revive the fj sometime!? I’m probably delusional.
"Realstick" chose the 5A?
Booooo!!
How many recalls on that Bronco ? 😂
Bronco Mexico made kit trucks equivalent to poor quality and reliability the old Ford days of Bronco are long long gone
All the real broncos are built in America 🇺🇸
Meanwhile all Tacomas are made in Mexico, but that’s different because it’s Toyota right?😂
@@gs98999 pretty much yes lmao 🤣
Bronco snapping axles on regular normal roads versus Japanese legendary engineering. Hmmmm Okay...lets do a comparison...
Dude no😂
Current 4Runner has fallen way behind the curve. Price to value just isn’t there anymore. It’s grossly underpowered and gets horrible MPG. I mean….it doesn’t even come with a powered lift gate. And its backup camera is a joke. Seriously Toyota? For the amount they’re charging for this dinosaur, a powered lift gate and better backup camera is not a big ask or update for this current gen model. People who are still buying this truck for $50K are getting taken.
Just buy a ford or Chevy.
Own a 4Runner and you'll change your mind.
Talk about things that you should worry about the LEAST. 🤣But hey, what do i know? 🤷♂️I only work in the ford service department replacing these items on FORDS FOR A LIVING as I pull in driving my 4runner that’s 10 years old.🤷♂️😂😉
@@Anomize23 LOL….my brother has a JGC that is 14 years old. No major issues. Still drives all over. You people act as if the 4Runner is the only vehicle that can last for ten years. Toyota fanboyism is a weird society.