Will Fight With China Push India Closer To US? | Newstrack With Rahul Kanwal

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  • Опубліковано 19 чер 2020
  • In this exclusive India Today global conversation, Rahul Kanwal speaks with Kishore Mahbubani, FMR, President, UNSC, Prof. John J Mearsheimer, Political Scientist, and Samir Saran, President ORF on combating and containing the rise of China. A challenge that not only India but the whole world is grappling with. Watch to find out more.
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  • @careclixinternational4068
    @careclixinternational4068 4 роки тому +85

    professor kishore mahbumani is always bold and clear .I never saw him so angry and assertive .Lots of love professor .

    • @sshong1553
      @sshong1553 3 роки тому +14

      Kishore knows China thousand times better than the US guy who had the nerve to say that Kishore was dead wrong, how insulting!

    • @harryjessen
      @harryjessen 2 роки тому +3

      @@sshong1553 John Meersheimer is a warmonger. USA wants to be the only leader in the world.

    • @joey3291
      @joey3291 2 роки тому

      @@harryjessen US's last struggle to keep its USA exceptionalism, which translates into wars, killings, and subversions.

    • @cindykwek5756
      @cindykwek5756 Рік тому

      I get emotional too … the American guy is a typical American politician… poo poo stirring and evil .. horrible human being .. and he said himself .. he does not believe in “trust” …. It’s a horrible state of mentality …. SELFISH …..if India side with US … one day the whole QUAD will he used as a bargaining chip .. and hand out to dry when they need something from China or the RCEP … I hope John (the US) has no friends … because he does not believe in trust and will sell any friend for his own profit

    • @raymonddon8875
      @raymonddon8875 Рік тому

      china # 1

  • @therover65
    @therover65 3 роки тому +61

    Ever wondered why India never released any videos on the deadly border incident? China recently released a video and it showed:
    - Indian troops fully armed with riot gear and hand held weapons
    - Indian troops swarming Ng across the river to begin the Attack
    - 2 PLA soldiers unarmed and unequipped with protective gear tried to persuade the Indians to stop
    - these 2 were the first to be attacked
    So the Indians started the conflict but play victim

    • @tsuikr
      @tsuikr 2 роки тому +13

      Notice that the moderator became very uncomfortable when Kisore pointed out that Modi said that China never crossed the line into India.

    • @anona8211
      @anona8211 2 роки тому

      Please send the video link.

    • @serasichongchinliong3450
      @serasichongchinliong3450 2 роки тому

      @@anona8211 ..please google it in UA-cam.

    • @anona8211
      @anona8211 2 роки тому

      @@serasichongchinliong3450 what title is the video?

    • @serasichongchinliong3450
      @serasichongchinliong3450 2 роки тому +3

      @@anona8211 ..Galwan Valley Clash

  • @RJ.Mangal
    @RJ.Mangal 4 роки тому +78

    Indian should listen to Mr. Kishore I know in the heat of moment every Indian is angry with China but if India wants better future it should settle disputes with its neighbours, USA is only going to use India for its own benefits and will leave when needed.

  • @wazirmoolji3332
    @wazirmoolji3332 4 роки тому +37

    With due respect to the participants on your show, they forgot the killings of human beings by USA in AFGHANISTAN, IRAQ, VIETNAM, and KOREA will never be forgotten by Countries suffered at the hands USA. USA being a super power has lost every war they started. They had to pack up and leave Korea and Vietnam. They are stuck in Iraq and Afghanistan.

  • @Terracotta-warriors_Sea
    @Terracotta-warriors_Sea 4 роки тому +131

    The only reason China attained its rise is because it worked extremely hard at it. It has earned its right and that must be respected and India too can rise but not by trying to join the containment team of the loosers but by working just as hard.

    • @view1st
      @view1st 2 роки тому +14

      Well said, @Khurram Shahzad.

    • @NoohCee
      @NoohCee 2 роки тому +11

      Agree. Work hard, as well as work smart, right attitude and right ego.

    • @henryng9406
      @henryng9406 2 роки тому +7

      I couldn't have said it better. West/America are evil, there must be other options. Hopefully India can see thru the evil, devious plan of the United States.

    • @Solar924
      @Solar924 2 роки тому +9

      Well said and agree 100%. Did you ever hear China wanting to contain anyone? They just say we will work hard and improve and if you do too, we all can grow together and prosper. None of these you lose we win mentality of the West. Jealousy (The West, USA & India) and money plus power (MIC) is the root of their evils

    • @lisa.e5776
      @lisa.e5776 2 роки тому +2

      Well said. The era of muscles and fists is gone. Here comes the era of the brains.

  • @saptarsimondal7653
    @saptarsimondal7653 2 роки тому +58

    I have never seen such a delicacy and strength of argument. Kudos to Prof. Kishore Mahbubani against these arrogant anti-china warmongers!

    • @manofsan
      @manofsan 2 роки тому +3

      You sound like a pro-Beijing shill (which the hollering Kishore Mabhubani certainly is).

    • @karthikheb8937
      @karthikheb8937 2 роки тому +2

      @@manofsan this comment section is full of Chinese paid shills

  • @st0rwing
    @st0rwing 3 роки тому +72

    First time I see Kishore losing his cool. But as always, he is full of wisdom, I think the world will do better if the leaders read his books.

    • @donaldjoseph3903
      @donaldjoseph3903 2 роки тому +5

      Kishore cannot handle the truth.

    • @tvaddict135
      @tvaddict135 2 роки тому +4

      @@donaldjoseph3903 Or you can not handle the truth?

    • @blackmamba3427
      @blackmamba3427 2 роки тому

      Kishore is a China spokesperson

    • @st0rwing
      @st0rwing 2 роки тому

      @@blackmamba3427 it's easy to label when there is no compelling argument

    • @blackmamba3427
      @blackmamba3427 2 роки тому

      @@st0rwing that's the way he is. You can keep good views of him to yourself.

  • @Jeffrey2323
    @Jeffrey2323 2 роки тому +32

    Kishore hit the nail on the head. India must think for India first, and not as an ally to this or that. And India must grow up.

    • @harir6316
      @harir6316 2 роки тому

      Good suggestion because China can never grow up.

    • @lisa.e5776
      @lisa.e5776 2 роки тому +1

      @@harir6316 China is still a child yet so capable. Imaging the days when China grow up. 🥰

    • @blackmamba3427
      @blackmamba3427 2 роки тому

      Yes. Now China behaving like a big bully

  • @taboobunny9186
    @taboobunny9186 4 роки тому +52

    This is not a debate. The host and some of its guests are more interested in bashing Kishore . It's very clear what their agenda is right form. The beginning. The host has been nothing but insulting and condescending towards him right from the start. What a joke this whole thing is. Kishore is right to be furious.

    • @donaldjoseph3903
      @donaldjoseph3903 2 роки тому

      Kishore is too shallow. Got exposed, therefore becomes extremely angry 😡

    • @harir6316
      @harir6316 2 роки тому

      Asking confronting questions is not insulting or condescending in any way.

  • @miang62
    @miang62 3 роки тому +79

    Very clearly, the 2 Indians are very much driven by emotion, impulsiveness and pre-conceived notions whereas Kishore talks facts, data and rationale. The white chap's agenda is obviously to antagonize and inflame the situation, to divide and conquer. Kishore is a Singaporean of Indian ancestry. He was Singapore's ambassador to the US n United Nation, President of the UN Security Council, Dean of Lee Kuan Yew School of Public Policy in Singapore. He's one of Singapore's foremost strategic thinker trusted and respected by Lee Kuan Yew. He certainly knows what he's talking about. Being from Singapore, Kishore does not take sides when asked for his views on geopolitic matters. He speaks his mind n what he believes is true. Kishore has learnt much from Lee Kuan Yew who will tell you what he believes is true, not what you want to hear. Lee too posseses incredible political foresight and international leaders including every sitting US president had sought his views and opinion on world affairs especially on China. Kishore also enjoys a strong reputation for his knowledge n wisdom on international relations. The best universities, think-tanks, eminent academics n politicians have been seeking his counsel because they see the value and merits in his advice.

    • @zhoubaidinh403
      @zhoubaidinh403 2 роки тому +8

      Well said my brotha'

    • @Solar924
      @Solar924 2 роки тому +6

      That's is what a diplomat is for - to resolve conflict (Kishore is a master); unlike the other two who are emotional power war mongers (probably didn't graduate from diplomacy school)

    • @donaldjoseph3903
      @donaldjoseph3903 2 роки тому

      Kishore has a hard time because the rest are experts who know what they are talking. Kishore rings hollow before these experts who speak the truth.

    • @zhoubaidinh403
      @zhoubaidinh403 2 роки тому +3

      @@donaldjoseph3903 Don't invite yourself into the dialogue if your iq is below 90...as it is clearly evident in your prose and the ideas you attempt to express.

    • @harir6316
      @harir6316 2 роки тому +2

      Very clear Chinese are driven by insecurity complex that they want to take revenge for what Japan did long back.
      This type generic idiotic statements anybody can make like you have made.
      It has nothing to do with emotion. India's strategic interests are not aligned with China.

  • @corinachan8533
    @corinachan8533 3 роки тому +17

    "Your prime minister had said no Indian territory had been taken". One line from Kishore completely devastates Rahul and permanently puts him in his proper place making him a complete idiot. Just look at his face - utterly speechless! That's what happens when a half-baked rookie who doesn't know what he's talking about takes on a learned professor.

    • @eugenedebbs2189
      @eugenedebbs2189 2 роки тому

      Actually, he is a pretty decent media anchor. But I guess he is just too afraid of the hawkish Indian nationalists who can be pretty ruthless and therefore, cannot speak his mind. Anyone in the Indian media who advocates for dialogue and engagement with China or Pakistan is immediately branded a "traitor" and your life can be under threat. Media people have died in India over these sort of things. It's not even a joke. I think this media anchor has just kowtowed to the Hindu ultranationalist thugs who have unfortunately managed to hijack geopolitical discourse in Indian civil society out of fear for his own safety. Can't blame him for that.

  • @robcameron9096
    @robcameron9096 4 роки тому +70

    China is forging economic partnerships with ASEAN, Africa, Central Asian republics, Russia, Africa and the EU through the Belt and Road initiative. By neglecting to participate in BRI and RCEP (Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership), India appears to be well-focused on containing its own rise.

    • @stephanchan1660
      @stephanchan1660 2 роки тому +10

      India only want partnership with english speaking countries and doesn’t wanna humble and very confused how to picks or manages strategy only they want how to defeated China and taking over number one spot with short cut I would say good luck in the future and keeps dreaming.

    • @harir6316
      @harir6316 2 роки тому +3

      @@stephanchan1660 It is just simple. Multilateral trade deals is less useful to India from past experience.
      We prefer bilateral trade deals. It has nothing to do with English speaking countries.
      Last thing we want is trade deal with China in it.

    • @dreadfulbodyguard7288
      @dreadfulbodyguard7288 2 роки тому +2

      @@harir6316 There's no such thing as multilateral trade deals are less beneficial. Almost all trade is good -it is positive sum game.

    • @harir6316
      @harir6316 2 роки тому

      @@dreadfulbodyguard7288 Trade deal is good or not is based on countries competitive advantages.
      India's exports are mostly in services. Most trade deals focus on goods. The past FTAs record shows most trade deals causes deficit.
      So it is much better to do a trade deal with countries when it is advantageous to us.
      Also having trade deal is simply idiotic.
      They act mostly against our national interest. Trade and security go together.
      It is a lot more complex than thinking that all trade deals are good.

    • @yaphonghor4409
      @yaphonghor4409 Рік тому

      @@harir6316 Which field of goods American are not in Indian soil and think of Indian merchandise in the US? Learn how to get rid of US hegemony and bully will help India in the long run!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @archangel7052
    @archangel7052 3 роки тому +98

    The moderator is supposed to moderate, not gang up with the other two, perhaps he's afraid of the Hindu nationalists targeting him. 1 vs 3 debate is unfair by any standard but Kishore did an awesome job.

    • @donaldjoseph3903
      @donaldjoseph3903 2 роки тому

      I agree 👍 💯.. India should have more pro China moderators and guests on its programs.

    • @liechinmannorman5140
      @liechinmannorman5140 2 роки тому +2

      @@donaldjoseph3903 I would prefer an impartial moderator over a pro or anti-China moderator.

    • @manofsan
      @manofsan 2 роки тому +4

      Kishore sounded like a sepoy who works for Chinese masters, especially when he got shrill.

    • @donaldjoseph3903
      @donaldjoseph3903 2 роки тому

      @@manofsan Kishore is internationally known for being pro China and anti Western. It's his choice. He sees merit in it.

    • @manofsan
      @manofsan 2 роки тому

      ​ @Donald Joseph - it's his choice to be a sepoy who aggressively toadies for China. He's just padding his own sinecure from his Singaporean masters, and reflects their views slavishly. He imagines himself to be more silver-tongued than he actually is, and the holes in his arguments are as obvious as those in swiss cheese.

  • @litchae
    @litchae 3 роки тому +21

    I respect Kishore, and I think he is right

  • @tsuikr
    @tsuikr 2 роки тому +9

    I have never seen Kisore this mad! Mearsheimer is supposed to be an academic but he here acts more like a diplomat trying to pull India into the US side. The other Indian guy, well I can understand where he is coming from. But the moderator completely failed in his role, he made this “discussion “ three against one.

  • @yaoypl
    @yaoypl 4 роки тому +42

    OMG, I never see Kishore Mahburani is so fired up. Kishore brings up a very good argument: PM Marendra Modi said no one entered India territory. That is another way saying India army was the intruder, the fight broke out on the Chinese side of LAC. Get it?

    • @Amidat
      @Amidat 3 роки тому +5

      yes but people on here don't seem to get it. it's like their drunk on something

    • @yananneteoh9818
      @yananneteoh9818 2 роки тому

      @@Amidat loony nationalists.

  • @pcsing2006
    @pcsing2006 3 роки тому +10

    Mearsheimer conveniently left out the realities of the past. US did not win WW2, the Russian did by beating back Nazi Germany. The US did not win the Korean War, China did by beating back the UN forces led by the US. Who beat the Japanese? The Chinese did by beating back the Japanese and thereafter the US dropped two bombs into Japan and claimed victory. Japan was beaten by then but the US nevertheless dropped those bombs to scare the Russians. Mearsheimer is playing a mind game by encouraging India to fall into the US orbit when India is allemotionalabout the conflict with China. That would be a tragic mistake for India. Mahbubani is correct to suggest India should manitain its non-alignment principle and do what's best for India. As it is, India aligning with US had already aroused the suspicion of the Russians who have had friendly relations with India for many decades.
    The US had always made use of the divide and rule tactic and dumped the country when their use is no more relevant to the US. To wit: US made use of Iran until the fall of the Shah. Likewise, US supported Iraq and Saddam Hussain and got it to fight Iran which ended in ruins for both. What happened then? US is off to do other damage to maintain its global hegemonic primacy. Does US ever won any war? In Afghanistan, after 20 years, it had to negotiate with the Taleban, so did US won? Likewise in Iraq, US have now been told by Iraq to get out. How about Vietnam? Well did US won or lost? The Quad is a joke, why bother to bring that up? India should draw lessons from history. The more immediate one is how US through Kissinger and Nixon secretly contacted China to established relation with them. The objective? To contain Soviet Union and put a wedge between China and Russia. Today, China has caught up and in US mentality, pose a peer threat. You are now watching how US fabricate lies and create conflicts to contain China. US did the same to Japan when Japan was in the ascendant. US could restrain Japan because they were Japan's master having dropped 2 atomic bombs on them but US cannot and will not be able to contain China.These are not speculations but historical facts like it or not.

  • @tigerking1974
    @tigerking1974 4 роки тому +80

    Kishor understand China better as he researches China everyday. Not like the US guy who wish to see the conflict between China and India. That would be tragic.

    • @ram-lj9kz
      @ram-lj9kz 2 роки тому +2

      He is just a realist
      It wouldn't be pretty for anyone but this is inevitable
      Just cuz India and China are in the same continent doesn't mean that they like each other or that china sees India as an equal partner

    • @yaphonghor4409
      @yaphonghor4409 Рік тому

      Neocons are running amok in the US!!!

  • @shaphitoyib2321
    @shaphitoyib2321 3 роки тому +23

    I never see mr.kishore so angry.he is calm figur

  • @chester1234ification
    @chester1234ification 4 роки тому +14

    Poor Kishore. Come to China, u are welcome. Also welcome to Indian friends to visit China. Peace is important for commoners, do not get manipulated by politicians.

  • @SuperSaynotoracism
    @SuperSaynotoracism 3 роки тому +18

    Mr. Kishore, take care and stay healthy.

  • @saranjitsbedi6796
    @saranjitsbedi6796 4 роки тому +16

    I m with Kishore Madhubani statement that India should do on its own rather than taking help from other countries.

  • @Dungedunge
    @Dungedunge 2 роки тому +6

    Salute to Prof. kishore for enduring that BS

  • @annanntz3733
    @annanntz3733 3 роки тому +30

    US simply cannot accept any other countries getting stronger (last time was Russia and Japan. Now is China. Future will be India). Surprisingly see Prof Kishore lost his temper but you are one of my most admire figure.

    • @fannybirot2362
      @fannybirot2362 2 роки тому +1

      Because he is at the Indian side but the Indian guy is stubbornly not understanding it.

  • @henryng9406
    @henryng9406 2 роки тому +7

    I would vote for Mr Mahbubani for US president in a heart beat. He's the most articulate, intelligent person out there.

  • @imranmoonis
    @imranmoonis 4 роки тому +36

    Am reading Mr Kishore's book. An eye opener.

  • @byrds2011
    @byrds2011 4 роки тому +25

    Sameer Saran is talking from both sides of his mouth, on one hand he says every country should pursue its own interest and India will do the same. So why complain when Pakistan and China choose to pursue their own interest with each other?

    • @ram-lj9kz
      @ram-lj9kz 2 роки тому +1

      Cuz they collide with indian's interest
      Do you think Chian and Pakistan like India-US alliance?
      Just look at the AUKUS China went crazy for those submarines

    • @byrds2011
      @byrds2011 2 роки тому +4

      @@ram-lj9kz China goes crazy you say? Those submarines won't be ready until 2040 for crying out loud. That's 20 years from now! China will be so far ahead by then. LOL

    • @ram-lj9kz
      @ram-lj9kz 2 роки тому

      @@byrds2011 the submarines are already there
      The US gives its own untill they are ready
      It's basically as if Australia already has them

    • @byrds2011
      @byrds2011 2 роки тому +4

      @@ram-lj9kz no such case, anyway you believe what you want.

  • @qzhang25
    @qzhang25 3 роки тому +4

    Let India live in its own dream for another 10 year.

  • @rayfonz9128
    @rayfonz9128 4 роки тому +11

    Totally agree with Kishore, you hit the nail on the head

  • @alecwk
    @alecwk 3 роки тому +21

    Support Kishore all the way.

  • @louises9911
    @louises9911 4 роки тому +21

    I look down this anchor because he pushes his position at the opening and closing statements. Why not let audiences decide which panelists they are believed in?

  • @nizicike759
    @nizicike759 4 роки тому +7

    Kishore Mahbubani got the point,Inidan has been insulted by the West for 200 years, and he is still respectful to the West today,just look at Africa ,with their ability ,their can help Africa get out of pooverty.both India and Africa just tools for western ,don't fall into that trap

    • @serasichongchinliong3450
      @serasichongchinliong3450 2 роки тому

      It is due to the caste system culture that Indians adore the "perceived" higher caste.

  • @entretenimiento1232
    @entretenimiento1232 3 роки тому +19

    Your Prime Minister Has said that no Indian territory has been taken😅 Mr. Kishor It's Was Excellent
    Among the three selfish ones, Mr. Kishore is the only one who speaks rationally and impartially ... You have won Mr. Kishore
    F....k...ing Indians Never Understand That Mr. Kesor What Try To say.....
    India Have To Understand......
    America can never be a good friend, as it has been proven once again in the case of Galwan and Ladakh incidence...
    I personally want China and India to rule the world together
    Love From Bangladesh 🇨🇳🇮🇳

  • @roopmukherjee3006
    @roopmukherjee3006 4 роки тому +25

    Kishore Mahbubani speaks sense and has a pragmatic view on India China relationship. One point which is obvious is that, India has to grow in all respect and protect its own interests first before entering into any ally with others... A very nuanced aporoach from India is expected in these difficult times...

  • @orkoo3854
    @orkoo3854 3 роки тому +19

    Useless anchor! Almost uses the same "Arnab" style moderator approach with an international panel.

  • @guytruth5598
    @guytruth5598 3 роки тому +14

    I am here to give Mr Kishore 100 like, because he is just. For MrJohn his idea is partial, denied the truth.

  • @HisamullahBeg
    @HisamullahBeg 4 роки тому +20

    In my assessment India had accepted the role to disrupt BRI & CPEC in line with wishes of competing western powers, accordingly embarked on military preparations in Ghalwan valley with potential to disrupt KKH - through heliborne operations. Indian military buildup in Ghalvan valley, a serious step in present day GREAT GAME full of repercussions in our region. Do not mess with china, instead concentrate on poverty alleviation within borders - McMohan line drawn unilaterally during British rule has never been accepted by China, so you have to draw mutually agreed demarcation of the boundaries.
    China will not allow this misadventure.

  • @sree221
    @sree221 3 роки тому +18

    @Kishore : I hate you because you always talk TRUE 🙏Thanks my dear fellow Indian

  • @HuaJarry
    @HuaJarry 3 роки тому +20

    the us worried about it cann't contain china by himself, so he courage the other nations to fight with to maintain theus's interest. so funny.

  • @zahidmehmood6683
    @zahidmehmood6683 4 роки тому +20

    Rahul, John, and Saran in favor of Indo-US alliance VS Kishore for strategic autonomy for Indian

    • @sureshp.s.1410
      @sureshp.s.1410 4 роки тому +1

      And where you stand Mr Mehmood

    • @yaphonghor4409
      @yaphonghor4409 Рік тому

      India is not going to gain anything from US by being its running dog!!!EU does not gain cheaper oil from the US when Russia oil/gas are cheaper!!!! One should understand this!!!!

  • @imrananwar8845
    @imrananwar8845 4 роки тому +9

    Kishore seems very much speaking the truth..., past, present and future view

  • @mr.cosmos5199
    @mr.cosmos5199 4 роки тому +8

    If,a very big IF, India can overcome their hatred for China,the virtue of it will make India a great nation!

  • @saktor951
    @saktor951 4 роки тому +8

    Kishore Mahbubani is after all Indian from heart and he talks sense.

  • @entretenimiento1232
    @entretenimiento1232 3 роки тому +4

    Mr.Kishore Mahubani is of Indian descent. He will never want India bad...Seeing the mentality of the Indians, I understood that the radish that America hung in the name of super power has started working in front of India🤣

  • @dabieshan
    @dabieshan 2 роки тому +11

    Respect to Kishore!

  • @zhilinli4692
    @zhilinli4692 4 роки тому +12

    What’s the reason for the Us interrupt Asia business? If there is a war between CHN and INA,what will the US do?sell weapon?After the war what will be left for both people?

  • @jessymerynag6478
    @jessymerynag6478 4 роки тому +4

    With due respect to Rahul Kanwal, when you invite seasoned people to your show, the least you could do is try to be not provocative. This is not a war for one side to win and for another to lose. It’s just an intellectual conversation. Please be respectful to everyone even if they are seemingly incorrect and let them correct themselves.

  • @novzan
    @novzan 3 роки тому +10

    I think India will becoming second largest economy in the world, I can't imagine what US do to India of the prospect becoming number three. India should keep calm and drink coffee and think best interest of itself by balancing relationship not just only US but China also. India should reflect in the past 2 years why China becoming aggresive toward India.

  • @hsoepangkat2007
    @hsoepangkat2007 4 роки тому +18

    Kishore was right that China was number 1 in the world for over 1800 years except since 200 years ago when the West started to get ahead because of colonialization and technology advancement. China to be number 1 in the world in terms of economy is just a matter of time. US will not happy to see a strong China and therefore will do her best to prevent China from becoming the number 1 power. India has always been friendly with US and the European powers due to her ambition to become a permanent member of the Security Council of the United Nations. However, if India does not eliminate her caste system, no country in the world will want to accept India as their leader.

    • @KunalSaini97
      @KunalSaini97 2 роки тому

      "Her" Caste system?
      do you think that caste system , the way it is, was our own system to divide people?

    • @johnathan5291
      @johnathan5291 2 роки тому

      @@KunalSaini97 it was the indo-aryans system 2000+ years ago and for some unknown reason y’all kept it.

    • @yananneteoh9818
      @yananneteoh9818 2 роки тому

      Harijanto sepang, Chinese civilisation went way back to King Wen of the Zhou Dynasty - 5000 B. C.King Wen consulted the I Ching - Book of Changes, proved the Wave Theory and quantum physics in the hexagrams of the I-ching....

  • @madhusudannair8634
    @madhusudannair8634 4 роки тому +65

    Mr Kishore says forget about border,think about environment what a funny man he is , typical communist &universal citizen !

    • @gsingh5617
      @gsingh5617 4 роки тому +1

      @肖杰 loool

    • @sumedhasoman2956
      @sumedhasoman2956 4 роки тому +3

      Very right Mr. Nair !👍

    • @trends2morrow107
      @trends2morrow107 4 роки тому +2

      You guys forgot China and Russia as a block.

    • @trends2morrow107
      @trends2morrow107 4 роки тому +2

      Kishore looks like has studied China strategies very well. Perhaps he is talking about history before it Happens. But oh boy the world history is full of Surprises.

    • @dhadumia
      @dhadumia 4 роки тому

      @XX Indians are not duplicitous like Chinese.

  • @manoranjanpandey3806
    @manoranjanpandey3806 4 роки тому +6

    Mehbubani has a point!

  • @kianh1903
    @kianh1903 4 роки тому +13

    He is right that emotion is running too high, seeing the anti comments.

  • @ldon4002
    @ldon4002 4 роки тому +6

    Kishore is the few thinker in this region. If politicians in Asia listened to him, the unjust world order with the old colonial powers at the peak is to be changed. Indian and China should learn to control their problem and work together. Otherwise, Asia is to continute to be controlled and exploited by the US and other advanced countries.

  • @notohate7724
    @notohate7724 4 роки тому +11

    Why Rahul so keen for War at time when we are not prepared.
    Learn from China how to become powerful with Investment from all its enemies.

  • @MegaSuehan
    @MegaSuehan 3 роки тому +23

    Well done, Mr Kishore. For your sanity and health, please stay away from such media.

    • @Amidat
      @Amidat 3 роки тому +5

      he's brave to go 3 against 1

    • @michaelteng6076
      @michaelteng6076 3 роки тому +1

      Yes specially this bias host Rahul

    • @kccher6197
      @kccher6197 2 роки тому

      @@michaelteng6076 he’s Not fit at all, uttering nothing substantial but garbage and baseless accusations against China forcefully without even a shred of evidence! When Kishore was saying india pm maintained that China did not at any time entered India territory, this rude host instantly thumped Kishore down before he could elaborate further. He’s definitely not cut out to be one simple anchor man but a stinking warmonger!

    • @michaelteng6076
      @michaelteng6076 2 роки тому +1

      @@kccher6197 Agree with you absolutely

  • @ronvara8703
    @ronvara8703 3 роки тому +19

    Very frank to you: you are talking about China every day; China has already forgotten who is India. No one is babbling about China-India dispute. By the way, don't try to drag Hong Kong and Taiwan into your talk points. India can play no role in Hong Kong and Taiwan issues, even though US does. India is not US.

  • @xiangpingxu4817
    @xiangpingxu4817 4 роки тому +18

    If fighting between Dragon and Elephant, who is happy, the eagle.

    • @gsingh5617
      @gsingh5617 4 роки тому +2

      The dragon needs to ensure no fight but, as it has bigger responsibility

    • @AC-ny1di
      @AC-ny1di 4 роки тому +2

      INDIA TRYING TO FUEL A FIGHT BETWEEN CHINA & THE US FOR PERSONAL GAIN

    • @fredrickffff
      @fredrickffff 4 роки тому

      Dragon exist only in fantasyland

    • @fredrickffff
      @fredrickffff 4 роки тому

      Jai Chhabra India shall join the US against the China Pak nexus. Death to CCP

    • @earldonavon110
      @earldonavon110 4 роки тому

      The eagle wasn't happy when the dragon attacked the elephant.
      We were happy when the dragon became best friends with the hyenas because everyone knows elephants hate hyenas.

  • @SuperSaynotoracism
    @SuperSaynotoracism 3 роки тому +5

    As a Chinese ethnic residing in Malaysia, i would like to see China help India with their problem. That is the righteous value in which taught by our ancestors - 以德报怨

    • @Anuj10_01
      @Anuj10_01 3 роки тому +1

      But ccp has destroyed their own cultural values when communism took over. What righteous values are you talking about?

    • @SuperSaynotoracism
      @SuperSaynotoracism 3 роки тому +3

      @@Anuj10_01 you might not know much about China. What values did the CCP destroy? Be specific. Here, I can share a few core values in which the Chinese are practising all this while - meritocracy, benevolence, and respect towards other nations. For a recent example, the generous offer to assist India on the shortage of oxygen for hospitals despite Indian's emotional attitude towards China on border crisis.

  • @NishchayBhuta-en8rl
    @NishchayBhuta-en8rl 4 роки тому +2

    John is a wise man. Very rational.

  • @ziaul-haque7883
    @ziaul-haque7883 4 роки тому +8

    China offered India a joint One Belt option but it was declined in the deep rooted hatred against Pakistan. Now I think China has every right to protect her interests. For India the only way out is peaceful reapproachment with China less they keep losing territorial options.

  • @khurramsharif1990
    @khurramsharif1990 4 роки тому +13

    Mahbubani is great......100% true.

    • @dchanda9522
      @dchanda9522 4 роки тому

      Definitely... Its suits you.

    • @khurramsharif1990
      @khurramsharif1990 4 роки тому

      @@dchanda9522 .....bro, it suits the whole asia. USA never wants transfer of power to asia.

  • @jorjoras7765
    @jorjoras7765 4 роки тому +24

    KISHORE SIR GOOD POINT OF VIEW I AM HAPPY THAT THERE IS SOMEONE WHO THINKS ABOUT FUTURE

    • @ShSh-xi4rd
      @ShSh-xi4rd 4 роки тому +3

      You mean Lunatic?

    • @hayatlak355
      @hayatlak355 4 роки тому +1

      @@ShSh-xi4rd kishore is very smart guy. he just lost a bit here i think

    • @user-zl1nj8ye5g
      @user-zl1nj8ye5g 4 роки тому

      Yes his theory of peaceful Chinese rise was dusted by xi jinping war mongering... His entire career was washed hence fiercely battling for his career lol 😂😂 xi jinping crushed his theory

    • @jyotibajwa1624
      @jyotibajwa1624 4 роки тому +2

      If there is a war it will not be on the territories of Japan, Australia or USA.Does India wish to become another Pakistan ???

  • @cocohuya
    @cocohuya 2 роки тому +3

    Kishore is the best no doubt

  • @rsyrsy8543
    @rsyrsy8543 4 роки тому +2

    This is the first time I have seen such an sensible, blunt political debate on India Today channel. Neither the host nor the guests were driven by emotion or impulse. I have never heard of Mr. Mahbubani, where was he educated and is he Indian citizen? He is unbelievably calm, intelligent.

    • @viharamonastry
      @viharamonastry 4 роки тому

      Singaporean citizen but he was ccp slave while he worked as unsc representative from Singapore

    • @miang62
      @miang62 3 роки тому +3

      @@viharamonastry I'm seeing comments that accuse Kishore of being pro-China, a china apologist, a paid wumao of ccp etc. Meanwhile, some of the best universities, think-tanks, strategic affairs experts, eminent academics have been inviting him to share his deep and wide knowledge, experience n wisdom on China. In every speech and interview he gave, he has been very consistent in his views and opinions on China. By the definition of these commentators, shouldn't these organizations and individuals who hv been seeking to hear his so called 'pro-China' views be also labeled the same way they hv labeled Kishore??? By throwing derogatory names at someone for holding opposing views, for saying hard truths because he truly believes in them, for telling them things they don't like to hear, it speaks volume of these commentators character n exposes their childishness, immaturity, insecurity and ignorance. It doesn't matter what these morons are calling him, what truly matters is that governments, universities, think-tanks etc. around the world see the value and merits in what he has to share to continue to seek his wise counsel.

    • @miang62
      @miang62 3 роки тому +2

      Kishore is a Singaporean of Indian ancestry. He was Singapore's ambassador to the US n United Nation, President of the UN Security Council, Dean of Lee Kuan Yew School of Public Policy in Singapore. He's one of Singapore's foremost strategic thinker trusted and respected by Lee Kuan Yew. He certainly knows what he's talking about. Being from Singapore, Kishore does not take sides when asked for his views on geopolitic matters. He speaks his mind n what he believes is true. Kishore has learnt much from Lee Kuan Yew who will tell you what he believes is true, not what you want to hear. Lee too posseses incredible political foresight and international leaders including every sitting US president had sought his views and opinion on world affairs especially on China. Kishore also enjoys a strong reputation for his knowledge n wisdom on international relations. The best universities, think-tanks, eminent academics n politicians have been seeking his counsel because they see the value and merits in his advice.

  • @apexkevv8904
    @apexkevv8904 4 роки тому +12

    India been close to the United States even before this happened. The United states would love to have India as it’s doormat just like the British did.

    • @AC-ny1di
      @AC-ny1di 4 роки тому

      @Chirag Patel
      We beg USA FOR VISAS . WE ARE NOT DIPLOMATIC BUT BEGGARS SADLY
      GIVING THEM IMPRESSION THEY CANNOT SURVIVE WITHOUT INDIANS

    • @AC-ny1di
      @AC-ny1di 4 роки тому +2

      INDIA TRYING TO FUEL A FIGHT BETWEEN CHINA & THE US FOR PERSONAL GAIN

    • @egosatwork3255
      @egosatwork3255 4 роки тому

      India 🇮🇳 needs to be strong and secure and stand alone,, trust yourself,, the Buddha is smiling ☺ 🕉

    • @apexkevv8904
      @apexkevv8904 4 роки тому +1

      Jai Chhabra I agree!!!

  • @TanveerAhmed-kx5fo
    @TanveerAhmed-kx5fo 4 роки тому +11

    You guys need to learn how to live peacefully with your neighbors if you really wants to prosper and compete

  • @fazlulkarim9123
    @fazlulkarim9123 4 роки тому +2

    Both India and China together can rise and change the world.

    • @fazlulkarim9123
      @fazlulkarim9123 4 роки тому

      @darsh mart I am Indian. There are lot of common men who think like that. At present a minority voice of course.

  • @jimmywang1586
    @jimmywang1586 3 роки тому +3

    Ironically, Dr Kishore's undignified rants on this India Talk Show has brought more people to his viewpoint than in a traditional lecture hall!

  • @mountainclimber4511
    @mountainclimber4511 4 роки тому +9

    Only Kishore talks with a logic and his point of views are to the point and very true

    • @prashanthb6521
      @prashanthb6521 4 роки тому +1

      How much do you get paid monthly ?

    • @fredrickffff
      @fredrickffff 4 роки тому +1

      A point of view that is worth 50 cent

    • @fredrickffff
      @fredrickffff 4 роки тому +1

      Prashanth B most likely 50 cent

    • @mountainclimber4511
      @mountainclimber4511 4 роки тому

      @@prashanthb6521 nothing, i dont know about yours

  • @KINSHUKBHAGAT
    @KINSHUKBHAGAT 4 роки тому +41

    After looking at Kishore,
    Please don't disagree with the people with heart attack risk 😂

    • @luckyma590
      @luckyma590 4 роки тому +4

      You will have heart attack.

    • @Amidat
      @Amidat 3 роки тому +13

      the fact Indian media had to have 3 people go against him in a debate he handled himself very well.

    • @donaldjoseph3903
      @donaldjoseph3903 2 роки тому +1

      Kishore cannot handle the truth

  • @alyasagan3620
    @alyasagan3620 3 роки тому +3

    Samir saran is all over the place. This is not a discourse. Kishore is excellent and John is bias

  • @shubhampareek18
    @shubhampareek18 4 роки тому +28

    Kishore is Chinese stooge.

    • @naanuunkownu
      @naanuunkownu 4 роки тому

      If he is namardh narendra is bigger stooge who is begging from china for peace

    • @thomasranjit7781
      @thomasranjit7781 4 роки тому

      Modi just gifted 60 km of Indian land to china...

    • @sangareddy9510
      @sangareddy9510 4 роки тому

      @@thomasranjit7781 here comes one more pappu rahul 😂🤣,india never lossed any territory in modi government ,india lossed land in congress ruling time

  • @sikenah103
    @sikenah103 4 роки тому +35

    Kishore Mahbubani has delusions of grandeur. He is a sheep masquerading in wolf clothing just so he can graze I honestly pity him

    • @cx3091
      @cx3091 4 роки тому +3

      Piku Sadarangani sadly, Dr. Mahbubani is right. 21 century is a century of Asia. And clearly, if there is a war occurs between China and India, US will probably be the only winner. History tells. The Chinese government has solved most of her territorial disputes with many countries, including Russia and N Korea etc. All of the disputes were all solved by diplomatic negotiations, not by wars. As an outsider, I felt quite sympathetic to Dr. Mahbubani. He is right. India has so many social problems need to fix other than wages a war with China.

    • @muthusonofmom1864
      @muthusonofmom1864 4 роки тому +1

      He is a pseudo intellectual for sure :D

    • @Skygoers
      @Skygoers 4 роки тому +2

      I fully agree.

    • @johngoh9773
      @johngoh9773 4 роки тому

      How dare you ?

    • @cx3091
      @cx3091 4 роки тому +1

      tacotony24 I felt that he was got insulted by the other guest twisting his statement and trying to mislead the debate. India is a great country and definitely should be a part of a strong and prosperous Asia. As I explained in a comment below. He mentioned the Asia used to be the center of the world for a very long time.

  • @mayanksharma2296
    @mayanksharma2296 4 роки тому +15

    India today should publish a transcript of this debate - this is very useful for scholars who are keen on studying Indo -china in the 21st century

  • @adamharris1406
    @adamharris1406 4 роки тому +3

    Sadly, China is helping more countries in Asia, Africa, Latin America as well as India financially like no other country. so talk of combatting and containing the rise of China is misleading and wicked talks. containing China will harm many countries including India.

  • @namgyallama9163
    @namgyallama9163 3 роки тому +1

    Agreed with Kishore

  • @KJ-tq3sm
    @KJ-tq3sm 4 роки тому +6

    LOL this is INDIAN CNN propaganda x10000

  • @henglim6250
    @henglim6250 3 роки тому +9

    It is not China has three aircraft carrier groups in the Caribbean. The USA is just trying to remain number one. Why should America wants to try to contain anyone.

    • @harir6316
      @harir6316 2 роки тому

      What benefit US gets in allowing China to become number 1?

  • @user-wt8gq7vj9i
    @user-wt8gq7vj9i 4 роки тому +6

    Obviously, Some Speakers here haven't enough historical and international knowledges.pls try to know, the bias and injustice attitude to China Will result in not only hurting China but also hurting your india too.And you can see the westerners and Asian speakers have different view about Asian affairs. Why?Because Asian people love asia and westerners don't.

  • @tobylee6456
    @tobylee6456 3 роки тому +4

    While all the panelists are confident about their points of view and no one is gonna change the others' positions, China is simply ignoring all those noises negative about it and focusing its time and energy on building itself like what it has been doing in the past forty years. Debate doesn't help anything in getting countries better and stronger coz politicians have done more than any panelists already. If you just enjoy yourself in a sentiment of Anti China and not concentrate on hard work, you are going to get disappointed again and again.

  • @jerrysingh9152
    @jerrysingh9152 4 роки тому +22

    Overall i like the discussion,very interesting

  • @rhinoranger3873
    @rhinoranger3873 4 роки тому +4

    Kishore just realised he’s not on Arnabs channel...😂😂
    Yes ..there’s no thing called trust in global politics..India should build itself up atleast to protect intself from China or any outside force and not rely on USA or any other country..

  • @Fin-Land
    @Fin-Land 4 роки тому +1

    China has the power to punish India for getting closers to Chinese enemies. China can do it again and again as there isn’t anyone coming for India’s help, they can’t as they would prefer India and China destroy each other while they only provide ‘moral’ support. I agree with Kishore Mahbubani

  • @HN-mv5bq
    @HN-mv5bq 4 роки тому +27

    India must act based on past US history in dealing with other nations. US means business goal not other party's long interest.

    • @jithinjosegf6275
      @jithinjosegf6275 4 роки тому

      Of course, you are a Chinese bot. Why commenting on US platform?

    • @luckyma590
      @luckyma590 4 роки тому +2

      Why ?Because the Trump will roll from stage. We just disgust Trump. His will lose the president.

  • @mg.f.9023
    @mg.f.9023 3 роки тому +6

    Strong points all around! Kishore’s emphasizes every nation should look after its own interest comes deep from his belief of every person to look after his individual interest.. I can see the strong business self promoting side of him.

  • @Thoughtomobile
    @Thoughtomobile 4 роки тому +15

    Kishore Mahbubani's participation could have been constructive if he were not to have been defending the contents of his book. Vested interest!

    • @adamkhan7102
      @adamkhan7102 4 роки тому

      @Pissu Nethinam Shoke Mahbubani will be out of the game very soon.

  • @faithvirtue6524
    @faithvirtue6524 4 роки тому +2

    India shouldn’t let itself be a pawn for the US Empire. They could care less if your country is destroyed in a war. The US would consider that “collateral damage” in their cynical power game.

  • @keungpang2176
    @keungpang2176 3 роки тому +2

    This contest for dominants is between US and China. It's delusional for Indian to think they have some important in this contest. Nobody think India has any relevance. Wake up India.

  • @SwazzerProductions
    @SwazzerProductions 4 роки тому +6

    You tried your best Kishore. Unfortunately, Indian media and US analysts bullshit too much... Kishore is the only rational realist in this debate.

  • @jordancan9412
    @jordancan9412 3 роки тому +19

    John Mearsheimer is DELIGHTED. This host is not neutral, his “questions” already contain his biased stance. This is not up to journalism standards.

  • @madverse4007
    @madverse4007 3 роки тому +2

    The way rahul kanwal cuts the argument of a panelist is really disturbing

  • @gautamgunjan8471
    @gautamgunjan8471 4 роки тому +9

    What a phenomenal panelist..Hope to see more vibrant talks like these top minds

    • @Amidat
      @Amidat 3 роки тому +6

      3 against 1 is not a good debate

    • @PhiloSurfer
      @PhiloSurfer 3 роки тому +3

      @@Amidat Hear, hear

    • @moquant947
      @moquant947 2 роки тому

      As a moderator he should stay neutral and learned how to be quite.

    • @yananneteoh9818
      @yananneteoh9818 2 роки тому

      GautamGunjan It'd be good for Asia if you throw out your empty bombasts and listen to the issues.

  • @markmenezes4841
    @markmenezes4841 4 роки тому +3

    I say we boost our economy, military, and people of India who are no less than other country. More the economy grows people will respect us.

  • @ldon4002
    @ldon4002 4 роки тому +7

    To a big degree the modern Western civilization is based on a global slave system. A major part of the capital used to power the modern industries in Europe is from the exploitation from slavery operations in their colonies. So, I do hope Kishore's hope is to become true. The new system should be more inclusive and equal.

  • @chiquitafeldberg8512
    @chiquitafeldberg8512 2 роки тому +1

    The man from the U.N. is hostile. That's not responsible to have someone like that at the U.N. He actually said that the renaissance and the enlightenment was an aboration? Wow how ignorant.

  • @ritahalo
    @ritahalo 3 роки тому +1

    Support Kishor from NZ

  • @davidandrewasirvatham6207
    @davidandrewasirvatham6207 4 роки тому +12

    I agree with John Mearsheimer for his sound analysis in a gentle way for human sensitivity and natural aliance for survival. Well done

  • @garytan9904
    @garytan9904 4 роки тому +13

    Kishore for your health, stay away from this sort of setup

  • @ajayrawat5739
    @ajayrawat5739 4 роки тому +10

    Wow....
    John Mearsheimer on india Today

  • @nomvuladlamini4618
    @nomvuladlamini4618 4 роки тому +12

    I found this conversation informative. I wonder whether further tensions between India and China have implications for BRICS