Technically, it is not a fake jade, but treated one. Sorry you got scammed, but if you didn't pay over US$20, then it is really not that bad a deal...after all, you got what you paid for. It is like buying luxury goods, don't expect to buy an authentic LV bag for just $20.
@@kenrogers1118 That person didn't say it was impossible, just not to expect it. I also lucked out and got an authentic Louis Vuitton bag for $40 that ended up being a custom made Louis Vuitton Speedy from the 80's... I got scammed many times before that ever happened (and after) but that comes with trying to find good deals- especially online where you cannot inspect it in person. Many online scammers put a picture of a real bag but send a fake bag so no matter how good you are at telling real vs fake, it doesn't matter in that case. It's crazy how much time and effort people put into making fake items appear real these days smh.
Exactly. Now there is this NEW TECHNIQUE called COATING POWDER. When they carve & polish the jadeite they use colored powder to make the stone look colorful. Since this technique didn't destroy the inner texture of the stone so they will issue you a TYPE A cert ( means not treated ). But after you wear it for some time you start to realize the REAL color of the stone is different , not as you SAW & EXPECTED originally.
There's no such thing as treasure hunting when you talk about jadeite industry . Chinese love jadeite so much & dealers know how much they are going to ask if it'a real stuff. On a real natural jadeite jewel , they will only give you a high price for you to bargain. 50 HKD in HK can't even buy you a lunch box, not to mention a REAL JADEITE stuff. Not to mention , bangle is a very expensive category in jadeite jewel industry because it requires a big piece of stone to make a bangle & the stone has to be without cracks or the bangle would just break . Stones are very very expensive now. 50 HKD is not even enough for the service fee to carve the bangle from the stone.
Do you recommend a particular place to get a bangle that isn't an extortionate price? Also is white or lavender cheaper than green? I live in HK and would like a jade bangle.
You didn't get scammed. You just lost the game. You are trying to buy real jade for cheap, you lost. If you actually paid what a real jade would have cost, then I'll say you got scammed. I don't think that place is where you buy high quality jade.
Thank you. Hk os full of legit jewler chains like chow tai fook or chow sang sang but hes shocked that three dollar jade is fake. Even for a fake its not a bad price.
@Weedus So you think it's a good idea to help contribute to the slaughter of animals and indeed the slaughter of endangered animals? People should STOP buying taxidermy and hunting trophies and the market for this cruel sport would die out, as it should!
Weedus No, I think it should become an unacceptable commodity to deal in, just like Ivory and blood diamonds. Making it a desirable commodity just means more animals will be slaughtered to meet the demand.
@@elvis459 Isn't taxidermy performed mostly on already deceased animals though? From what I know and have seen, most people that perform taxidermy use animals they've found already dead like roadkill or pets they've previously owned that have passed away. I've never seen anyone actually go out of their way to get their hands on either live animals or rare dead animals that have been killed for that purpose.
You straight up embarrassed yourself man, came in there with your flash light spouting facts on real vs fake jade and how you know the difference but still got scammed haha damn
Depends on your parameters. If it glows it is 100% chance of being fake but not necessarily 100% chance of being real if it doesn't glow. So I'd say from one standpoint it is 100% accurate but upon expanding the testing parameters it becomes naturally less accurate. Still seems like a cheap, useful tool just not something that you can always depend on.
not necessarily. It did help weed out some of the more obvious pieces after all. Perhaps the one he picked couldn't have been easily spotted due to less resin. I noticed that some glow way brighter than others.
Never buy jade in a tourist area. Any place that sells a lot of souvenirs will not have anything of real value. Also, some type B jadeite are very convincing and would take years for the stone to discolor. Even if that piece that you bought turned out to be type A jadeite, it would still be of lower quality so it wasn't a good buy. That method using the UV light is clever and I will try that method when I buy jadeite next time.
You don’t need UV light. If the jade is cold to the touch and then warms up, it’s real. If it is translucent when put up to the light, it’s real. My jade bangle was bought in Nanjing, imported from Hong Kong, originated from Myanmar, and costs 1000USD which is the bargained price. This guy is just an idiot. Seriously laughable.
@@mtv565 personally I'm afraid to trust a gemologist if they are not right in front of me because you never know if they're going to switch something on you
@@amberknopp1901 Look at the punishment there for those unlucky enough to get caught committing crime... 😬 I'll add an article about their very harsh punishment... like capitol punishment (aka being killed) for many crimes including drugs. researchgate (dot) net/publication/258124797_Moral_Panics_Crime_Rates_and_Harsh_Punishment_in_China
RavenTheShaman Livestream9999 , "Agreed". These pieces of sh!t defending scammers; selling something as something else is literally a scam. The Chinese have social credit scores, they will not speak honestly.
Um... The word "scam" has a definition... You can't redefine it based on whether or not someone suspects there is risk involved. "Scam" implies some form of dishonesty or not full forthrightness on the part of the seller - which in these markets is totally true. So, regardless of whether or not the buyer suspects high risk, it is a "scam," period...
Even if lightly treated it is a beautiful piece. I am quite picky about the gemstones I purchase, especially Jade. However, depending on what was paid for that piece I would have been happy.
A friend of ours would but jade statues in China , expensive but with your 8 to 10 inch tall jade statue it would also have a 4x4x3 inch base . So he cuts off the bases to sell to jewelry stores for jewelry and still has the statue . The stores buy for more than 2 times he paid for the whole statue price in China. He also re-sells Rubies from India. He usually makes enough to pay for two more trips to China and India....So if you know your stones and markets there is a way to have fun and make money.
Well... If the Jade is only $50 HKD, of cuz not gonna be real. And if you want the real Jade and spend that much money for it, u need to go to the jewelry store with the big brand with trust and certified Jade. Also, this place is tourist place, don't buy anything in tourist place it's not gonna be something good.
Well actually there is not really a second hand market. Those stores know they are selling fake jade, so there are no way u could find a real one.😂 *im from Hong Kong
Calvin where do you recommend I get a jade bangle from please? I'm interested in paler green, lavender or even white. I'm not looking to spend a ridiculous amount of money but want a real piece! I live in HK.
This was at a second-hand market though, and they were selling them for what I assume is the price for resin-stabilized jade. So it's not impossible that they unknowingly have some high quality stuff there.
Simon Herteby They can have non-resin jade, but the quality is still poor and equal to the resin ones. The seller, who has high experience in jade trading, of course he will not miss a 5000$ piece of high quality real jade when he bring his chunk home everyday.
prdprdprdprdprdel Hong Kong is the place where you can buy a $20.000 Rolex in a decent looking store. But you have to know where to buy. You can not go for a pile of fake watches with the hope to find an authentic one.
wow, even the UV pen wasn’t so much of a good detector. like others have mentioned though, it’s not such a bad thing per se, treated jade vs completely synthetic material.
Real jade feels cold to the touch, with a substantial weight, shine the UV light behind the stone to check for translucency, not the front part of jade. But the thing that will give it away is the feeling of cold to the touch.
I think it was an old National Geographic article I read that said very little genuine jade was being produced in Chinese factories. The stone was serpentine. Only in the corner of one factory were a few real artisans producing genuine jade products. I love New Zealand jade but would like to see more creative exploration of its possibilities free of burdens of tradition. Australia has black jade. I got caught with some fake Canadian jade beads years ago and they are gently peeling away from the glass. I think chrysoprase is greatly underestimated and I prefer the refreshing translucent beauty of these beads when not colour altered to jade. Chrysoprase is quite tough and resilient and the best of it is at least as classy as jadeite in my view.
I have a chrysoprase tennis bracelet which was described as natural untreated green chrysoprase and it is beautiful. I think it was around $120-$130 at most. I am a jade lover, but I can appreciate other beautiful stones, especially mint green ones. As long as I know what they are. 3 chalcedony rings. One was described as dyed but I really like it anyway-large and translucent. Durable. It is about knowing if something is treated & I can make the choice.
Thanks for sharing. The jade is real, the sound is real, the piee is valuable The fact that resin is detected, it does not mean that the piece is worthless! It is real jadeidte and a beautiful piece 1. jade is sometime covered with resin to make it shine. the UV light will detect the fake color on the jade not the clear resin used to protect /wax the natural piece 2) some resin could have been rubbed off from being in touch with other pieces coverd in resin. how much residn was detectred? did you have the piece carefully washed.cleaned before the test? get it tested again. the jade you bought is beautiful and valuable, even if there are traces of resin. resin is a natural product, it is not polymer nor fake color.
Those sellers are experts and professionals. They provided you with the illusion of having a chance of finding treasures in a junk bucket , and you fell for it. Do you really think that they would have left any real valuable jade pieces in there just for you find ?
"Yeah, I'm italian" "You mafia?" PFFTHAHAHAHAHAHAHA geezus, subtle, mister, very subtle. Then again, those stalls, you haggle, going there you knowingly will be buying fake stuff, it's kind of a common sense. If you want the real deal, you'd walk into some established stores with proper security system or those top floors of malls which are mostly reserved for expensive tailored suits and all kinds of expensive stuff. Stall items are after all just stall items, in every country you got to take them with a big grain of salt.
I'm so happy I got this video recommended! Looks really interesting and I will definitely check other videos on your channel. Thanks for the video and tips! :)
Epoxy resin by default does not react to (means block) UV light. There are resin type that do (those with UV blocker, used widely in PCB making). So your UV torch is good to find fake jade, but not accurate enough to find real jade, as you already know by now.
you can judge the density less accurately by tossing the stone in the air and catching it in your palm. If it feels heavier than most stone pieces of the same size, it is more likely to be authentic jade. Another way to judge density is to observe the sound of plastic beads gently tapping each other. If you have a piece of real jade, clink it against the stone in question. If it sounds like plastic beads, then the stone in question is probably fake. Both jadeite and nephrite have a very high density (jadeite - 3.3; nephrite - 2.95). Density is measured by dividing the weight (in grams) by the volume (c.c.). Cold Test Hold the piece of jade in your hand. It should feel “cold, smooth and soap like to the touch”. It should take a while to get warm if it is real. However, this is very subjective, and most helpful when you can compare it to real jade of a similar shape and size.  Perform A Scratch Test Jadeite is very hard; it will scratch glass or even metal. Nephrite, however, can be much softer, so performing a scratch test improperly may damage a genuine piece. Use the blunt end of a pair of scissors and gently press down and draw a line on an area on the jade piece that is not visible (bottom or end of the piece). Avoid any weathering surfaces because these are much softer and can be easily damaged. If the scratch makes a white line, gently wipe it off (it might be metal residue from the scissors). Is there still a scratch? If so, it’s probably not authentic jade. If it scratches glass or steel, it could still be many of the alternatives to jade as well, including the various forms of green quartz and prehnite. Perform this test at your own risk. The piece may be very valuable, even if it’s not made from jade, and can lose significant value if scratched.
Have you ever found a piece of "real jade" at a market like that and for cheap? I wouldn't expect so, especially when looking among identical pieces. I'd accept it, enjoy it for what it is and make a nice necklace with the pendant. If looking for a pure stone, I'd look elsewhere and expect to pay more.
I would rather have resin than dye. Depending on the resin used hopefully high vibe resin like frankincense and myrrh. $150 for Bangle sound cheap as I brought mine about $600 and it have angel sound it worth it. Dye light up with UV light so he smart to do so as dye weaken the jadeite and also maybe toxic when it leak out. In some states selling it in the Markets in the USA you have to label that these items may cause cancer and then lot of people would make decision not to buy them.
i think people think of "value" too much and they lose site of the important things. if you find a carved pendant that only costs $30 usd, then go for it. jade or not. its like going to a flea market... a lot of amazing finds, but not everything is legitimate. but if you like it, then thats all that matters. now, if you're looking for larger pieces to carve from, then you can get serious with the lights and stuff cause thats when BIG money comes into play. but for markets like this, i think bringing lights in is just a little much. i dont think all the vendors look to scam people. some do. but some really think what they have to offer is worth the bucks. and considering the difference in currency, spending $20 on their jade, puts a hundred or two in their hand. either way, the pendant is pretty :)
I don’t think it is completely worthless. You thought it was beautiful. It is still beautiful. Make it into a pendant and enjoy it. Nobody will know it was treated with resin unless they have it tested.
Jade is a beautiful stone that can be many different colors including green, orange, or white. Most of us will have seen the Jade that is green in color. Jade however is a very popular and expensive stone and this has given rise to many fakes, imitations or treated Jades being seen in the market place. Ancient records show that the Chinese started to dye jade to improve the color in 13th century. If you are about to go shopping for jade or have an old piece of jade, here is an article that will help you tell if you have found the real thing.
He is being misleading. Untreated jadeite and nephrite are hugely expensive. You won't find it on the street. He did not purchase fake jade he purchased treated. Almost all gem material that the average person can afford is treated in some way. A jade bangle of high quality and color, untreated, will cost upwards of 100,000 dollars.
So what was his Jade made of besides resin? Cause normally if I even tap something on my teeth, I can tell if it's plastic, stone, metal, glass, or a gemstone. But if it's a mix, I wonder if I wouldn't be able to tell.
Sorry you got scammed. Thanks for the close up shots, really enjoy seeing different things at the market. LOL at the end clip of the people fighting at the fruit market. The women said the "F-word" at the end. I wish we could see why they got into a fight LOL.
How do you check if jade is real? 1. Use a torch but not a UV torch to check the jade. 2. Pick up the jade to check the back and the front.(Check the color, line ,the clearness) 3. Use a real jade to knock the other piece of jade to hear the sound.(You may found a big difference between the fake one and the real one)
50~100 USD in a local gem lab with good reputation in HK & Taiwan. There are lots of gem labs issuing "PRINTING CERTS "as long as you pay (like 15 USD per cert ). You have to avoid those fake gem labs ,especially in China . They issue certs on ALL items as long as you pay. So expect to buy a REAL UNTREATED bangle with a price even lower than the certificate fee is an unreasonable expectation.
@@jessicasmith-xm6xk Thank you, do you know (maybe), how much for testing stones in Myanmar, Hong Kong, or generally in Asia? Don't have to be exact, just average. Its about to make sure you buying right stone, not synthetic or heat treated one somewhere on the local market.. Thanks.
It didn’t say the percentage of resin in it. Even real jade might have a little resin to enhance the color and your light might not be able to detect, only the experts with the right equipment could do that evaluation.
I think it is about knowing exactly what you are getting. 4 gold and 1 silver green type A jadeite pendants. 2 green type A jadeite rings. I large mint green nephrite carved bangle, one multi-colored mariner link nephrite segment bracelet with stones from around the world, & one matching jadeite one. Some of the individual stones appear to have been treated, as they all come from different places. & a gold nephrite colored segment bangle. The green is a very pretty green, not a yellowish green. I believe some of the segments look like treated. But I did not pay any exorbitant amount for any of these pieces, & I have enough type A green jadeite to be happy with my collection. Of course I am always looking for more type A green at this point in my life.
Jade usually doesn't worth jack shit, cause these are indeed real, but only the skin part(玉皮)，most expensive Jade as in gemstone is the very core part of the Jade, which usually is rather pure in colour, sometime slightly glow in the dark
What kind of light do you use? I happen to love jade And I would love know. I also own lots of jade jewalry. And if I can find out what kind of light you used and among my friends could help me a lot.
It's a UV light. You can buy one on Amazon or, if you're willing to wait for a month or so, they're about a dollar on Wish.com. They may even have them at Walmart. However, as you saw, using one isn't foolproof. It only increases your chances.
Put it against the cheek of your face it should feel cold. Should feel and sound dense. Not very scientific I know but that's how we test it here in New Zealand. We have high quality jade or Pounamu as we like to call it here in NZ.
And then there is the older con on jade, dyed soapstone. By the niece of family friends I was taught how to tell the difference as a child but I'd not be able to spot the resin.
Terrible advice. Ive been successful buying grade a jadeite and am 10 for 10 getting them successfully certified. None i took out the ground. Plus, most quality jade is already in circulation.
@@eaminyashed7799 yes if u own the property u pay property taxes at the end of the year. If it's not your property you pay a fee to mine. If you do it illegally you have an 80% chance of getting caught and fines too heavy to be worth the trouble.
How would you carve, set it, etc. unless you were super rich & can afford to have it tested, then made into something? Also, how would you excavate it? (ha, ha)
All stone that is worked into anything larger than a dime is impregnated with resin or a polymer in order to strengthen and stabilize it so that it will last longer than a year! I create jewelry for a living and have a thorough education in this. The UV properties of the stabilizing elements are actually good for the stone!
im from hk and ofc they arent real HAHAH they're all tourists traps sold by dodgey aunties and old men. if you want the real stuff go to a qualified jade / gem seller...
You cannot get real jade anymore as my mother told me and show me the real deal she has a bangle bracelets in her youth a piece of real jade would cost more than a perfect diamond
Most jade there is not “fake” but the amount of jade vs polymer is slim! Almost every piece has trace jade but contains lots of resin! Cool pay $20 but get a minuscule amount of jade mixed with majority resin polymer!
Thank you what a great video did you bring the Jade back to the same person that you bought it off of just to see what he will say? What other specimens would you suggest that I try to collect? you know nice ones
if it looks like a jade,
sounds like a jade,
and people on the street tell you it's a jade,
it's probably plastic...
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😂😂😂😂😂😂 ... why would they sell the real deal on the street????? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
vendor: "You have a lot of experience huh?"
him: "Yeah, I've bought a lot of bad jades before."
*both laugh*
Technically, it is not a fake jade, but treated one. Sorry you got scammed, but if you didn't pay over US$20, then it is really not that bad a deal...after all, you got what you paid for. It is like buying luxury goods, don't expect to buy an authentic LV bag for just $20.
I bought an authentic lv bag at a thrift store for only 10$ here in ph
@@kenrogers1118 😀😁😂
@@kenrogers1118 That person didn't say it was impossible, just not to expect it. I also lucked out and got an authentic Louis Vuitton bag for $40 that ended up being a custom made Louis Vuitton Speedy from the 80's... I got scammed many times before that ever happened (and after) but that comes with trying to find good deals- especially online where you cannot inspect it in person. Many online scammers put a picture of a real bag but send a fake bag so no matter how good you are at telling real vs fake, it doesn't matter in that case. It's crazy how much time and effort people put into making fake items appear real these days smh.
Yee but why get a fake lv bag anyway? Lmfao
Treated jade... Wats that?
Only a very few types of resins are UV reflective. Its very possible that the jade is coated in resin or has a resin clear coat on it.
Exactly. Now there is this NEW TECHNIQUE called COATING POWDER. When they carve & polish the jadeite they use colored powder to make the stone look colorful. Since this technique didn't destroy the inner texture of the stone so they will issue you a TYPE A cert ( means not treated ). But after you wear it for some time you start to realize the REAL color of the stone is different , not as you SAW & EXPECTED originally.
Absolutely!
3:34 "are you mafia"
amat zainy J LOL
Lmaooo
There's no such thing as treasure hunting when you talk about jadeite industry . Chinese love jadeite so much & dealers know how much they are going to ask if it'a real stuff. On a real natural jadeite jewel , they will only give you a high price for you to bargain. 50 HKD in HK can't even buy you a lunch box, not to mention a REAL JADEITE stuff. Not to mention , bangle is a very expensive category in jadeite jewel industry because it requires a big piece of stone to make a bangle & the stone has to be without cracks or the bangle would just break . Stones are very very expensive now. 50 HKD is not even enough for the service fee to carve the bangle from the stone.
Do you recommend a particular place to get a bangle that isn't an extortionate price? Also is white or lavender cheaper than green? I live in HK and would like a jade bangle.
Legend say this man still searching for a $20 jade...
Hahahah
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You didn't get scammed. You just lost the game. You are trying to buy real jade for cheap, you lost. If you actually paid what a real jade would have cost, then I'll say you got scammed. I don't think that place is where you buy high quality jade.
Thank you. Hk os full of legit jewler chains like chow tai fook or chow sang sang but hes shocked that three dollar jade is fake. Even for a fake its not a bad price.
Agree
@Weedus So you think it's a good idea to help contribute to the slaughter of animals and indeed the slaughter of endangered animals? People should STOP buying taxidermy and hunting trophies and the market for this cruel sport would die out, as it should!
Weedus No, I think it should become an unacceptable commodity to deal in, just like Ivory and blood diamonds. Making it a desirable commodity just means more animals will be slaughtered to meet the demand.
@@elvis459 Isn't taxidermy performed mostly on already deceased animals though? From what I know and have seen, most people that perform taxidermy use animals they've found already dead like roadkill or pets they've previously owned that have passed away. I've never seen anyone actually go out of their way to get their hands on either live animals or rare dead animals that have been killed for that purpose.
You straight up embarrassed yourself man, came in there with your flash light spouting facts on real vs fake jade and how you know the difference but still got scammed haha damn
You cannot buy a REAL jade in this market, they just sell counterfeit jade... don't be serious to check.... and, local people know it!
So torch with UV isn't accurate after all.
I was already going to amazon it. But nay
Depends on your parameters. If it glows it is 100% chance of being fake but not necessarily 100% chance of being real if it doesn't glow. So I'd say from one standpoint it is 100% accurate but upon expanding the testing parameters it becomes naturally less accurate. Still seems like a cheap, useful tool just not something that you can always depend on.
Unheard Unseen how to wear a tight jade bracket
not necessarily. It did help weed out some of the more obvious pieces after all. Perhaps the one he picked couldn't have been easily spotted due to less resin. I noticed that some glow way brighter than others.
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Never buy jade in a tourist area. Any place that sells a lot of souvenirs will not have anything of real value. Also, some type B jadeite are very convincing and would take years for the stone to discolor. Even if that piece that you bought turned out to be type A jadeite, it would still be of lower quality so it wasn't a good buy. That method using the UV light is clever and I will try that method when I buy jadeite next time.
Going to but me a uv light too
Doesn't work for Type B+C. Even sound test is useless. Best is send to gemologist for certification.
You don’t need UV light. If the jade is cold to the touch and then warms up, it’s real. If it is translucent when put up to the light, it’s real. My jade bangle was bought in Nanjing, imported from Hong Kong, originated from Myanmar, and costs 1000USD which is the bargained price. This guy is just an idiot. Seriously laughable.
@@brittany6348 : Abandon all layman's tests! Only trust laboratory certificate! Type B and C jade are still real jade but chemical treated.
@@mtv565 personally I'm afraid to trust a gemologist if they are not right in front of me because you never know if they're going to switch something on you
Wouldn’t real jade be locked in a glass case instead of just laying out in the open where anybody could grab it?
There's loads of fake stuff in China, how else do you think people feed their families
Hi Molly, there is fake jade also locked up in glass casing, this is the problem!
And to be honest, crime is very minimal in China. Very safe there.
@@amberknopp1901 Look at the punishment there for those unlucky enough to get caught committing crime... 😬 I'll add an article about their very harsh punishment... like capitol punishment (aka being killed) for many crimes including drugs.
researchgate (dot) net/publication/258124797_Moral_Panics_Crime_Rates_and_Harsh_Punishment_in_China
Republican 4U2NV Not in Hong Kong
That jade was missing the made in China sticker
Jade in China
Because they haven't sent the next batch from taiwan.
Actually, most of genuine jewelry is made in China, though the stone is imported.
You didn't get scammed, you just make a gamble and you fully knew the risk from the start
RavenTheShaman Livestream9999 , "Agreed". These pieces of sh!t defending scammers; selling something as something else is literally a scam. The Chinese have social credit scores, they will not speak honestly.
@RavenTheShaman Livestream9999 it's still jade.so they didn't lie...it's just a piece of jade with cracks/holes filled with resin
So email scams aren't scams anymore because we expect them?
@@ChemicalXII PRC always lies
Um... The word "scam" has a definition... You can't redefine it based on whether or not someone suspects there is risk involved. "Scam" implies some form of dishonesty or not full forthrightness on the part of the seller - which in these markets is totally true. So, regardless of whether or not the buyer suspects high risk, it is a "scam," period...
Even if lightly treated it is a beautiful piece. I am quite picky about the gemstones I purchase, especially Jade. However, depending on what was paid for that piece I would have been happy.
A friend of ours would but jade statues in China , expensive but with your 8 to 10 inch tall jade statue it would also have a 4x4x3 inch base . So he cuts off the bases to sell to jewelry stores for jewelry and still has the statue . The stores buy for more than 2 times he paid for the whole statue price in China. He also re-sells Rubies from India. He usually makes enough to pay for two more trips to China and India....So if you know your stones and markets there is a way to have fun and make money.
jeff putman I hope it’s not old statues he is cutting apart :/
You didn't get scammed. You were hoping to get over on someone. You get what you pay for.
That UV is genious👍😅 Resin Detected😂😂😂 Awesome😂😝
Well... If the Jade is only $50 HKD, of cuz not gonna be real. And if you want the real Jade and spend that much money for it, u need to go to the jewelry store with the big brand with trust and certified Jade. Also, this place is tourist place, don't buy anything in tourist place it's not gonna be something good.
@Donald Kasper yes , theres a local rock shop and they sell fake Jade for 60$ each
Well actually there is not really a second hand market. Those stores know they are selling fake jade, so there are no way u could find a real one.😂
*im from Hong Kong
can recomend me some place where i can buy pure crystal ?
I was just going to say this, these people know they are not selling real untreated jade... they've been in this market for a long time.
Calvin where do you recommend I get a jade bangle from please? I'm interested in paler green, lavender or even white. I'm not looking to spend a ridiculous amount of money but want a real piece! I live in HK.
@@komatsusakura There is a modern jade store in Hong Kong that sell real jade in affordable price. You can check ‘thejadeinstyle’ in Instagram.
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If you spot one fake, for sure the others are fake as well. No reputable seller would accept fake product to sell to their customer.
The point of the video wasn't buying expensive jade from a reputable seller, but trying to fish a real one out of thit pile of gunk...
This was at a second-hand market though, and they were selling them for what I assume is the price for resin-stabilized jade. So it's not impossible that they unknowingly have some high quality stuff there.
Simon Herteby They can have non-resin jade, but the quality is still poor and equal to the resin ones. The seller, who has high experience in jade trading, of course he will not miss a 5000$ piece of high quality real jade when he bring his chunk home everyday.
prdprdprdprdprdel Hong Kong is the place where you can buy a $20.000 Rolex in a decent looking store. But you have to know where to buy. You can not go for a pile of fake watches with the hope to find an authentic one.
wow, even the UV pen wasn’t so much of a good detector. like others have mentioned though, it’s not such a bad thing per se, treated jade vs completely synthetic material.
In Hong kong you can not never find reasonable price for jade, go to Burma
That's how you get scammed every time. You try to take advantage of someone who is smarter than you.
You use the wrong word. Not "smarter", but "more cunning".
Take advantage? Attempting to buy something "as advertised" is taking advantage?
ahhh the sound of clinking stones... like nails on a chalk board lol im too protective of my stones lol
3:33 are you mafia?
everyone with a UV-Torch is expected to be from the mafia xD
Real jade feels cold to the touch, with a substantial weight, shine the UV light behind the stone to check for translucency, not the front part of jade. But the thing that will give it away is the feeling of cold to the touch.
i am surprised the vendor didn't chase you away for calling out "fakes".
I think it was an old National Geographic article I read that said very little genuine jade was being produced in Chinese factories.
The stone was serpentine.
Only in the corner of one factory were a few real artisans producing genuine jade products.
I love New Zealand jade but would like to see more creative exploration of its possibilities free of burdens of tradition.
Australia has black jade.
I got caught with some fake Canadian jade beads years ago and they are gently peeling away from the glass.
I think chrysoprase is greatly underestimated and I prefer the refreshing translucent beauty of these beads when not colour altered to jade.
Chrysoprase is quite tough and resilient and the best of it is at least as classy as jadeite in my view.
I have a chrysoprase tennis bracelet which was described as natural untreated green chrysoprase and it is beautiful. I think it was around $120-$130 at most. I am a jade lover, but I can appreciate other beautiful stones, especially mint green ones. As long as I know what they are. 3 chalcedony rings. One was described as dyed but I really like it anyway-large and translucent. Durable. It is about knowing if something is treated & I can make the choice.
Thanks for sharing. The jade is real, the sound is real, the piee is valuable The fact that resin is detected, it does not mean that the piece is worthless! It is real jadeidte and a beautiful piece 1. jade is sometime covered with resin to make it shine. the UV light will detect the fake color on the jade not the clear resin used to protect /wax the natural piece 2) some resin could have been rubbed off from being in touch with other pieces coverd in resin. how much residn was detectred? did you have the piece carefully washed.cleaned before the test? get it tested again. the jade you bought is beautiful and valuable, even if there are traces of resin. resin is a natural product, it is not polymer nor fake color.
Those sellers are experts and professionals. They provided you with the illusion of having a chance of finding treasures in a junk bucket , and you fell for it. Do you really think that they would have left any real valuable jade pieces in there just for you find ?
When the scammer gets scammed..love it
03:30
- Italia?
- Yeah Italia.
- Are you a MAFIA?
- No
"are you a mafia??" LOL @3:33
"Yeah, I'm italian"
"You mafia?"
PFFTHAHAHAHAHAHAHA geezus, subtle, mister, very subtle.
Then again, those stalls, you haggle, going there you knowingly will be buying fake stuff, it's kind of a common sense.
If you want the real deal, you'd walk into some established stores with proper security system or those top floors of malls which are mostly reserved for expensive tailored suits and all kinds of expensive stuff. Stall items are after all just stall items, in every country you got to take them with a big grain of salt.
It seems that lamp method is not that reliable in spotting fake jade.
Actually if you think about it and helped him a lot... he actually only lost a few dollars... what maybe $3
Your statement is wrong. A UV lamp is very reliable in spotting fake jade, it's not reliable in spotting authentic jade ;-)
I'm so happy I got this video recommended! Looks really interesting and I will definitely check other videos on your channel. Thanks for the video and tips! :)
Epoxy resin by default does not react to (means block) UV light. There are resin type that do (those with UV blocker, used widely in PCB making). So your UV torch is good to find fake jade, but not accurate enough to find real jade, as you already know by now.
just goes to show us how very tough it is to analyze and recognize a given piece of rock as precious jade ~
you can judge the density less accurately by tossing the stone in the air and catching it in your palm. If it feels heavier than most stone pieces of the same size, it is more likely to be authentic jade.
Another way to judge density is to observe the sound of plastic beads gently tapping each other. If you have a piece of real jade, clink it against the stone in question. If it sounds like plastic beads, then the stone in question is probably fake.
Both jadeite and nephrite have a very high density (jadeite - 3.3; nephrite - 2.95). Density is measured by dividing the weight (in grams) by the volume (c.c.).
Cold Test
Hold the piece of jade in your hand. It should feel “cold, smooth and soap like to the touch”. It should take a while to get warm if it is real. However, this is very subjective, and most helpful when you can compare it to real jade of a similar shape and size.

Perform A Scratch Test
Jadeite is very hard; it will scratch glass or even metal. Nephrite, however, can be much softer, so performing a scratch test improperly may damage a genuine piece. Use the blunt end of a pair of scissors and gently press down and draw a line on an area on the jade piece that is not visible (bottom or end of the piece). Avoid any weathering surfaces because these are much softer and can be easily damaged. If the scratch makes a white line, gently wipe it off (it might be metal residue from the scissors). Is there still a scratch? If so, it’s probably not authentic jade.
If it scratches glass or steel, it could still be many of the alternatives to jade as well, including the various forms of green quartz and prehnite.
Perform this test at your own risk. The piece may be very valuable, even if it’s not made from jade, and can lose significant value if scratched.
Have you ever found a piece of "real jade" at a market like that and for cheap? I wouldn't expect so, especially when looking among identical pieces. I'd accept it, enjoy it for what it is and make a nice necklace with the pendant. If looking for a pure stone, I'd look elsewhere and expect to pay more.
Merrie E loo
Put it in the oven, I'm curious about how much would melt off.
I would rather have resin than dye. Depending on the resin used hopefully high vibe resin like frankincense and myrrh. $150 for Bangle sound cheap as I brought mine about $600 and it have angel sound it worth it. Dye light up with UV light so he smart to do so as dye weaken the jadeite and also maybe toxic when it leak out. In some states selling it in the Markets in the USA you have to label that these items may cause cancer and then lot of people would make decision not to buy them.
Yes ! He too greedy .everyone also need make some money for living and for food!.
i think people think of "value" too much and they lose site of the important things. if you find a carved pendant that only costs $30 usd, then go for it. jade or not. its like going to a flea market... a lot of amazing finds, but not everything is legitimate. but if you like it, then thats all that matters. now, if you're looking for larger pieces to carve from, then you can get serious with the lights and stuff cause thats when BIG money comes into play. but for markets like this, i think bringing lights in is just a little much. i dont think all the vendors look to scam people. some do. but some really think what they have to offer is worth the bucks. and considering the difference in currency, spending $20 on their jade, puts a hundred or two in their hand. either way, the pendant is pretty :)
Lesson learned. Don’t buy Jadite on the streets of HK.
even in the shop if you do not know the seller well
I don’t think it is completely worthless. You thought it was beautiful. It is still beautiful. Make it into a pendant and enjoy it. Nobody will know it was treated with resin unless they have it tested.
Exactly. It was a beautiful mistake.
Jade is a beautiful stone that can be many different colors including green, orange, or white. Most of us will have seen the Jade that is green in color. Jade however is a very popular and expensive stone and this has given rise to many fakes, imitations or treated Jades being seen in the market place. Ancient records show that the Chinese started to dye jade to improve the color in 13th century. If you are about to go shopping for jade or have an old piece of jade, here is an article that will help you tell if you have found the real thing.
Jade seller says "OoOooh". Jade seller is thinking "yes I know idiot it's all fake"
He is being misleading. Untreated jadeite and nephrite are hugely expensive. You won't find it on the street. He did not purchase fake jade he purchased treated. Almost all gem material that the average person can afford is treated in some way. A jade bangle of high quality and color, untreated, will cost upwards of 100,000 dollars.
Love the way the scam artists get all 'incredurous' when you show them the fakes. Like they didn't know.
because your UV light torch is ran out of battery，haha。
No, that UV torch was made in China too.
@@riverpinewood6560 😂😂😂
Where can I get a uv torch like the one you use?
ebay
So what was his Jade made of besides resin? Cause normally if I even tap something on my teeth, I can tell if it's plastic, stone, metal, glass, or a gemstone. But if it's a mix, I wonder if I wouldn't be able to tell.
Sorry you got scammed. Thanks for the close up shots, really enjoy seeing different things at the market. LOL at the end clip of the people fighting at the fruit market. The women said the "F-word" at the end. I wish we could see why they got into a fight LOL.
The part you got scammed the worst was paying HKD80 to get it tested.
that testing lab is run by elizabeth theron holmes
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I love Jade❤☺
How do you check if jade is real?
1. Use a torch but not a UV torch to check the jade.
2. Pick up the jade to check the back and the front.(Check the color, line ,the clearness)
3. Use a real jade to knock the other piece of jade to hear the sound.(You may found a big difference between the fake one and the real one)
😂😂😂😂 you’re trying to buy real jade for cheap? Nah, you get what you pay Men.
Even if you buy a jade that cost thousands of dollars you can get scam too - duh
You cannot find high quality jade with little money. Do you think you can fool those merchants? In your dreams!
Hi, great video.
Can you tell me, please, how much in US$ was testing+certificate in the lab???
testing at the gem lab in manhattan is $150
50~100 USD in a local gem lab with good reputation in HK & Taiwan. There are lots of gem labs issuing "PRINTING CERTS "as long as you pay (like 15 USD per cert ). You have to avoid those fake gem labs ,especially in China . They issue certs on ALL items as long as you pay.
So expect to buy a REAL UNTREATED bangle with a price even lower than the certificate fee is an unreasonable expectation.
@@jessicasmith-xm6xk Thank you, do you know (maybe), how much for testing stones in Myanmar, Hong Kong, or generally in Asia?
Don't have to be exact, just average. Its about to make sure you buying right stone, not synthetic or heat treated one somewhere on the local market..
Thanks.
It didn’t say the percentage of resin in it. Even real jade might have a little resin to enhance the color and your light might not be able to detect, only the experts with the right equipment could do that evaluation.
I think it is about knowing exactly what you are getting. 4 gold and 1 silver green type A jadeite pendants. 2 green type A jadeite rings. I large mint green nephrite carved bangle, one multi-colored mariner link nephrite segment bracelet with stones from around the world, & one matching jadeite one. Some of the individual stones appear to have been treated, as they all come from different places. & a gold nephrite colored segment bangle. The green is a very pretty green, not a yellowish green. I believe some of the segments look like treated. But I did not pay any exorbitant amount for any of these pieces, & I have enough type A green jadeite to be happy with my collection. Of course I am always looking for more type A green at this point in my life.
Hi where to buy that light which you are using for testing ?? Thanks
it's a 365-UV pen light , I hope that you can make a good use of it!
@@Goldendives thanks
Love your videos on all things jade related. Keep up the great work!!!
Thanks Ben! Regards!
2:51 that bangle is a real jade one, probably 200K USD worth. You missed it.
😂 go and buy it then
How do they make it look glossy? Would polyurethane count as resin?
Jade usually doesn't worth jack shit, cause these are indeed real, but only the skin part(玉皮)，most expensive Jade as in gemstone is the very core part of the Jade, which usually is rather pure in colour, sometime slightly glow in the dark
If you buy legit gemstone I have from the bottom of the sea in the sunken japanese ship during world war 2
What kind of light do you use? I happen to love jade And I would love know. I also own lots of jade jewalry. And if I can find out what kind of light you used and among my friends could help me a lot.
It's a UV light. You can buy one on Amazon or, if you're willing to wait for a month or so, they're about a dollar on Wish.com. They may even have them at Walmart. However, as you saw, using one isn't foolproof. It only increases your chances.
Put it against the cheek of your face it should feel cold. Should feel and sound dense. Not very scientific I know but that's how we test it here in New Zealand. We have high quality jade or Pounamu as we like to call it here in NZ.
And then there is the older con on jade, dyed soapstone. By the niece of family friends I was taught how to tell the difference as a child but I'd not be able to spot the resin.
I swear every one of these scam artists carry the same calculator
Don't buy jade unless you pull it out of the damn ground yourself.
Terrible advice. Ive been successful buying grade a jadeite and am 10 for 10 getting them successfully certified. None i took out the ground. Plus, most quality jade is already in circulation.
If you pull it out of the ground, do you still have to pay yourself?
@@eaminyashed7799 yes if u own the property u pay property taxes at the end of the year. If it's not your property you pay a fee to mine. If you do it illegally you have an 80% chance of getting caught and fines too heavy to be worth the trouble.
How would you carve, set it, etc. unless you were super rich & can afford to have it tested, then made into something? Also, how would you excavate it? (ha, ha)
Which chinese jewellery brands or stores would you recommend for buying jade?
The guy that inspected the jade probably swapped it with a defected one xD
That's a pretty specific piece to have a copy of.
Lesson: Anyone selling jade on the street is not selling jade on the street.
All stone that is worked into anything larger than a dime is impregnated with resin or a polymer in order to strengthen and stabilize it so that it will last longer than a year! I create jewelry for a living and have a thorough education in this. The UV properties of the stabilizing elements are actually good for the stone!
im from hk and ofc they arent real HAHAH they're all tourists traps sold by dodgey aunties and old men. if you want the real stuff go to a qualified jade / gem seller...
" I aM LoOkInG FoR JÆDE "
If you can need a UV light to tell the difference does it really matter for something you just look at anyways?
yo bro that blue light is for test what where can i get it?? thnaks
AliExpress
@@TotalWarriorLegends what is the product name??/ thanks
Too unreliable. Real jade should feel cold when you place it on your skin usually on your cheek part of your face.
@@TotalWarriorLegends what is the Product name
@@flohiggins4210 ya so many way to test it Don't know which one can be use
Real jade will always feel cold to the touch
You cannot get real jade anymore as my mother told me and show me the real deal she has a bangle bracelets in her youth a piece of real jade would cost more than a perfect diamond
Very interesting about all the facts when looking for Jade. Thank you for another great video! Safe travels my friend! :)
hi buddy. please share the address and name of where you went to get the jade certified, Thanks
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Haven't seen anybody using any jade jewel ever. Maybe they buy it to fill their jewel boxes. Not even fake.
That floating Buddha is not a resin polymer. It's Sichuan wax after polishing
Most jade there is not “fake” but the amount of jade vs polymer is slim! Almost every piece has trace jade but contains lots of resin! Cool pay $20 but get a minuscule amount of jade mixed with majority resin polymer!
Thank you what a great video did you bring the Jade back to the same person that you bought it off of just to see what he will say? What other specimens would you suggest that I try to collect? you know nice ones
This shows that the Chinese are the masters of making gems lol
Sooooo the uv light did not help.the sound was wrong. the way to detect is?
By any chance can you tell me where I can buy one of that jade testing lighting? Thank you
I've seen lots of rock glow under UV I'm not sure if this is hundred percent accurate.
At 3:16 translated --> I will have you rowed off to the hell where people are skinned alive! It's that simple, understand?!
what is the that u hold to test that jade??I'm interested on it coz I love jade but don't know to differentiate the fake and ori. .please help me
Thank you so much for your video, so helpful!
You don’t know what your talking about