I pulled the glass out of the scale by removing the plastic wedge pieces. Mine did not have hot glue. It slides right out. Then used a dremel with a cutting wheel to cut the glass (I wrapped it in masking tape at the cut point). Super easy job. If anyone watching this is worried about trying, don't. It is VERY EASY to do. The hardest part is cutting the aluminum. Wet the green pieces with water and they'll slide right back in using a small flathead screwdriver. I used a 90 degree pick to pull them out.
So with your video I went out and did it on mine in about 20 mins. I varied a bit from you in that I just drilled holes in the end just smaller than those small screws and they they tapped themselves in the soft alum. I also cut a small piece of rubber and wedged it between the glass and rail with a dab of super glue. Thanks for great content!!!
As you can probably tell, I am finally catching up on your channel's content. I subscribe to so many channels, it is hard to find enough time to watch everything. You get better with every video. This one is no exception.
Very nice job! I actually ran into the same problem on my little bench top mill a few months ago. I was hesitant to try cutting the scale so ended up with the scale a bit long but my mill doesn’t have any drain holes to block. I just had to clamp down on my OCD to accept the finished look.
I've thought about putting DRO systems on my machines at some point, but never considered cutting the scales to length after the fact. Yours came out pretty good in the end, after seeing you do it the process seems pretty easy. Nice sticker haul, and I agree that Pierre is one of the nicest fellows in the community, he's given me lots of good advice and I usually bend his ear if I need the "voice of experience," lol!
Hi DRO scales we did these but only on our lathe we love them and will never look back. We know Joe he lives in some really pretty country, northern California we live in the California desert south of Joe. We will share the cutting of the scales we also had to do, and we too were a train wreck not wanting to destroy anything but we made it and are sure you will as well we are watching to see. We see a real clear coolant hole great future thinking, no shortcuts well done. Lance & Patrick.
Well done. I have a 200mm scale coming for a small mini mill I plan to use as a drill press/manual mill and was faced with losing 30mm since 300mm is too much and even 250mm may have been too long. think I will try my hand at shortening the 300 to 230 as you did. I also read that it's common for these to be dirty from factory and jump around less after cleaning.
I know this video is old, but I had to watch it. Had me on the edge of my seat and holding my breath when you snapped the scale! Went very well though! I was wondering if the glass was tempered or not, and if it would snap clean, but it did so not tempered. Congratulations!
That really took a lot of patience, I normally use a Jewelers saw which is much more forgiving but then I'm a watchmaker so I already have one. Good show thanks
I picked up one of those Ditron kits from DROPros for my lathe (ya, they forced me to buy it off EBay after I ordered it on the phone as I mentioned on your FB thread). Same issue though, scales are just a bit too long and though I could live with them, I think shortening them might be the way to go. Thanks for the great video, Yuchol! Bill Johnson/WIWTFab
Have a set coming in the mail HOPE I don't have to shorten them but if I do at least I have seen it done another way ( saw one cut with bandsaw) have no idea why that didn't break Thanks for the info
Better to be nervous doing it than being a bull in a china shop! One thing, I think you would have been better to clamp the rail to your block of wood, then you would have had better control of the hacksaw, even better would have been to use a junior hacksaw towards the end after cutting the majority with the large one. But a good job done Youchol!
I brought mine to the vertical band saw and cut it off Put it in the milling machine to square it. Then I machined the end block because the glass was cut even with the aluminium housing. The hard part was putting back the little screws.
My dro covers my drain holes, nice job. If I use some coolant I just Mop it up at the ends. Wonder how a cheap diamond wheel for the dremel would work to cut the glass?
I really like this video. Couple things for others watching to consider. I’m not sure how epoxy works with glass, but my recommendation would be to use a polyurethane based sealant or at minimum a silicone based sealant to “bed” the glass. Glass is actually pretty resilient, it’s unpolished edges of the glass, making contact with a hard or rough surface that causes the break. Consider using a wet sand with fine grit, just to polish the cut edges. This video was very informative, thank you.
The display unit has to have the lathe function software. Many are multi-purpose for mill and lathe, some are dedicated. The scales will work with either.
Your best option would be a diamond cutting disc, in a small grinder, mark it all up with a square and slice it straight across, after packnig a little cloth in to dampen any vibrations
It's called Urban Lullaby, one of the royalty free songs provided via UA-cam for creators to use. Here is one place where you can listen to ua-cam.com/video/bFQCo1C3RH4/v-deo.html
@@woodscreekworkshop9939 Thank man! That song has haunted me for months. Subbed to your channel. I just got a bridgeport and the scales I got were too long. Big shocker right? Thanks again!
Great job and great production Kim. Very good detail and love the TOT style of humor. I have been trying to get one of the Ditron on Ebay ever since you posted about yours. I just keep getting out bid and am unwilling to pay much more than $200 plus shipping. How do you like the one you have.? That is a very sweet looking mill. What brand is it. ? Would also be interested in seeing the install of the DRO even tho there are already many on You Tube. Thanks for taking the time to share it with us.
I will post a “post-install” video to show the end result and my impression of the DRO. The mill is Precision Matthews PM-949 and I really like it. In fact, if I was to do it all over again, I would buy the exact same mill. Thanks for your kind words and motivation.
@@woodscreekworkshop9939 Yuchol It has been six months since the install. Did a post install video cause if you did I missed it. I still have my eyes on installing one of these on my PM 833-t but not until you tell me they are okay. Thanks Terry
terry cannon I have not made the follow up video, maybe I should. I am completely satisfied with this DRO setup, no complaints what so ever. The glass scales that I cut are performing perfectly. Hope this helps.
@@woodscreekworkshop9939 Thanks Yuchol. Could you please check the length of your scales and the travel on the x and y axis on your mill. I am hoping it will use the same scales that my PM 833-T will need. It would be nice to know what part numbers you ordered. Thanks.
I watched 30 minutes of you attempting to shorten the scale, see it mounted, and then...NOTHING!!! Talk about total disappointment! WHY NO VIDEO of it working??? Did it NOT work after all that ? Be honest now! I did enjoy the video and I'm HOPING it does work so let everyone know with an update!
I pulled the glass out of the scale by removing the plastic wedge pieces. Mine did not have hot glue. It slides right out. Then used a dremel with a cutting wheel to cut the glass (I wrapped it in masking tape at the cut point). Super easy job. If anyone watching this is worried about trying, don't. It is VERY EASY to do. The hardest part is cutting the aluminum. Wet the green pieces with water and they'll slide right back in using a small flathead screwdriver. I used a 90 degree pick to pull them out.
So with your video I went out and did it on mine in about 20 mins. I varied a bit from you in that I just drilled holes in the end just smaller than those small screws and they they tapped themselves in the soft alum. I also cut a small piece of rubber and wedged it between the glass and rail with a dab of super glue. Thanks for great content!!!
Thank you mate, you have answered many questions, awesome, Matty
Thanks for being REAL and not taking yourself too seriously!
Thanks!
As you can probably tell, I am finally catching up on your channel's content. I subscribe to so many channels, it is hard to find enough time to watch everything. You get better with every video. This one is no exception.
Thanks Robert, back at you! Your videos are better and better everytime
Thanks for taking us along on your journeys. Regards
Looks like score and snap is a good method
I'll have to do something like this in the near future
Thanks for sharing
TommyGun Machining thank you for watching!
Very nice job! I actually ran into the same problem on my little bench top mill a few months ago. I was hesitant to try cutting the scale so ended up with the scale a bit long but my mill doesn’t have any drain holes to block. I just had to clamp down on my OCD to accept the finished look.
Papas Fix it Shop you are strong to fight back on your OCD. My OCD beats me always.
After 20 years doing frame off Restoration of Classic cars and trucks I value the OCD but sometimes I need to keep a tight leash on it 😀
I've thought about putting DRO systems on my machines at some point, but never considered cutting the scales to length after the fact. Yours came out pretty good in the end, after seeing you do it the process seems pretty easy. Nice sticker haul, and I agree that Pierre is one of the nicest fellows in the community, he's given me lots of good advice and I usually bend his ear if I need the "voice of experience," lol!
Maybe I got lucky, but I will take it! 😁
You give excellent directions and comments. Please show more of your installs. I subbed after seeing how you handled this one. Thanks and take care.
You made it ! Fine work !
Hi DRO scales we did these but only on our lathe we love them and will never look back. We know Joe he lives in some really pretty country, northern California we live in the California desert south of Joe.
We will share the cutting of the scales we also had to do, and we too were a train wreck not wanting to destroy anything but we made it and are sure you will as well we are watching to see. We see a real clear coolant hole great future thinking, no shortcuts well done.
Lance & Patrick.
Thanks Lance and Patrick!
Hey Yuchol, today I shortened my glass scale by 100mm using your technique and it worked well. Thanks for the "encouragement".
Glad to hear it!
Job well done, that answered a question I had as to whether glass scales could be shortened. Cheers 👍
Well done. I have a 200mm scale coming for a small mini mill I plan to use as a drill press/manual mill and was faced with losing 30mm since 300mm is too much and even 250mm may have been too long. think I will try my hand at shortening the 300 to 230 as you did. I also read that it's common for these to be dirty from factory and jump around less after cleaning.
I know this video is old, but I had to watch it. Had me on the edge of my seat and holding my breath when you snapped the scale! Went very well though!
I was wondering if the glass was tempered or not, and if it would snap clean, but it did so not tempered.
Congratulations!
That really took a lot of patience, I normally use a Jewelers saw which is much more forgiving but then I'm a watchmaker so I already have one. Good show thanks
Thanks Larry, I think I held my breath the entire time 🤪
I picked up one of those Ditron kits from DROPros for my lathe (ya, they forced me to buy it off EBay after I ordered it on the phone as I mentioned on your FB thread). Same issue though, scales are just a bit too long and though I could live with them, I think shortening them might be the way to go. Thanks for the great video, Yuchol!
Bill Johnson/WIWTFab
Bill Johnson good luck and thanks for the compliment!
Nicely done!
Have a set coming in the mail HOPE I don't have to shorten them but if I do at least I have seen it done another way ( saw one cut with bandsaw) have no idea why that didn't break Thanks for the info
Just take your time and go slow and you’ll be fine,
Underwater basket weaving might be more your speed
Better to be nervous doing it than being a bull in a china shop! One thing, I think you would have been better to clamp the rail to your block of wood, then you would have had better control of the hacksaw, even better would have been to use a junior hacksaw towards the end after cutting the majority with the large one. But a good job done Youchol!
Yuchol, wouldn't it have been easier to tap holes in the table, place right angle fittings in them and run hose down to your mill sump?
I am not drilling holes on my new milling machine table, not the best option out there
I brought mine to the vertical band saw and cut it off Put it in the milling machine to square it. Then I machined the end block because the glass was cut even with the aluminium housing. The hard part was putting back the little screws.
My dro covers my drain holes, nice job. If I use some coolant I just Mop it up at the ends. Wonder how a cheap diamond wheel for the dremel would work to cut the glass?
Ed KE6BNL I am sure a diamond wheel would work fine, but the diameter was too small to clear the aluminum casing
Fun to watch, drama, good editing, subscribed!
Nicely done, Subscribed. Thank you!
I was holding my breath through most of that video! :O)
Me too
I really like this video. Couple things for others watching to consider. I’m not sure how epoxy works with glass, but my recommendation would be to use a polyurethane based sealant or at minimum a silicone based sealant to “bed” the glass. Glass is actually pretty resilient, it’s unpolished edges of the glass, making contact with a hard or rough surface that causes the break. Consider using a wet sand with fine grit, just to polish the cut edges. This video was very informative, thank you.
Thank you!
Any idea how to set the parameters on one of those counters to make them work on a lathe?
The display unit has to have the lathe function software. Many are multi-purpose for mill and lathe, some are dedicated. The scales will work with either.
Your best option would be a diamond cutting disc, in a small grinder, mark it all up with a square and slice it straight across, after packnig a little cloth in to dampen any vibrations
Another Great Video-Thank You!
excellent bravo et merci pour cette vidéo super
If you doesn't want cut the DRO scale, try install the stainless steel pipe to extend the drain hole. Works great on mine.
Amazing skill (luck)...lol
Just drill those end cap holes .005 under size and the screws will thread themselves.
Yep, used a Bandsaw, worked great.
OMG there it is again! WHAT is that name of that song at 10:10 ????????????????
It's called Urban Lullaby, one of the royalty free songs provided via UA-cam for creators to use. Here is one place where you can listen to ua-cam.com/video/bFQCo1C3RH4/v-deo.html
@@woodscreekworkshop9939 Thank man! That song has haunted me for months. Subbed to your channel. I just got a bridgeport and the scales I got were too long. Big shocker right? Thanks again!
Great job and great production Kim. Very good detail and love the TOT style of humor. I have been trying to get one of the Ditron on Ebay ever since you posted about yours. I just keep getting out bid and am unwilling to pay much more than $200 plus shipping. How do you like the one you have.? That is a very sweet looking mill. What brand is it. ? Would also be interested in seeing the install of the DRO even tho there are already many on You Tube. Thanks for taking the time to share it with us.
I will post a “post-install” video to show the end result and my impression of the DRO. The mill is Precision Matthews PM-949 and I really like it. In fact, if I was to do it all over again, I would buy the exact same mill. Thanks for your kind words and motivation.
@@woodscreekworkshop9939 Yuchol It has been six months since the install. Did a post install video cause if you did I missed it. I still have my eyes on installing one of these on my PM 833-t but not until you tell me they are okay. Thanks Terry
terry cannon I have not made the follow up video, maybe I should. I am completely satisfied with this DRO setup, no complaints what so ever. The glass scales that I cut are performing perfectly. Hope this helps.
@@woodscreekworkshop9939 Thanks Yuchol. Could you please check the length of your scales and the travel on the x and y axis on your mill. I am hoping it will use the same scales that my PM 833-T will need. It would be nice to know what part numbers you ordered. Thanks.
WHy not use the mill to cut the aluminum ?
I love your shirt!
mattyx3x 😏
Awesome shirt!
😁
Is the Glass actually glass or plastic?
It’s actually glass
Good Job!!!!!!!!!!
Well done.
mrtomsr thank you!
Love the music!
Thanks Brandon!
Top job thanks i have one to do a great help 😊
Other guy milled one half open then scored the glass with a carbide fiber optic cutter then snapped it off shortened with dremel and diamond cutter
Lexan Scissors!
Would be easier just use a bandsaw....(no problem at all on cutting the glass)
I watched 30 minutes of you attempting to shorten the scale, see it mounted, and then...NOTHING!!! Talk about total disappointment! WHY NO VIDEO of it working??? Did it NOT work after all that ? Be honest now! I did enjoy the video and I'm HOPING it does work so let everyone know with an update!
Kevin Gallagher it worked and still continues to work today. Thanks
what's the reason for the glass being shorter?, can't you just leave it long I would think it should work, Yes No.
Why do people like you own a milling machine, you don't even own a hacksaw. Sell everything and go back to selling insurance