$200 Mill DRO 3 axis Digital Readout from banggood [Unboxing Instalation Review]
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- Опубліковано 22 жов 2019
- Hy There,
In this video i will mount new DRO on my mill. The old one work good, but they got too slow refresh time to work normal.
That one is next level of DRO it's much faster, precisier and also offer us many other function, wich can be seen into video.
You can buy these items here:
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Mounting of old Igaging dro:
• Igaging digital readou...
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Description:
2/3 Axis Grating CNC Milling Digital Readout Display / 50-1000mm Electronic Linear Scale Lathe Tool
Note: The item just includes 1pcs item which you select.
(JCS900-2AE/JCS900-3AE Readout/50-1000mm Linear Scale)
Specification:
-Axis Digital Readout(2 Axis/3 Axis)
1.Measuring travel: 0-3020mm
2.Accuracy class: ± 1um
3.Measurement standards: engraved glass grating
4.Operating voltage: 5V ± 5% DC
5.Working speed: ≤1m / S (1um)
6.Acceleration: ≤ 60m / s²
7.Reference Operating Humidity: ≤ 90RH
8.Grating pitch: 20um (0.020mm)
9.Measurement procedure: Incremental
10.Signal mode: TTL
11.Circuit characteristics: NPN
12.Grating measurement system: transmission infrared optical measurement system, infrared wavelength 940nm
13.Scanning frequency: ≤28kHz
14.Anti-vibration: 50Hz-2KHz, ≤ 180m / s ²
15.Impact: 16ms, ≤ 600m / s ²
16.Displacement frictional resistance: ≤ 5N
17.Protection class: IP53 / IP64
18.Signal electrical connection: independent adapter cable (2.5M / 3M / 4M / 5M, ≤ 100M, can be connected to install the block)
Note: The above parameters are measured in the ideal environment. There may be some differences in practical application.
-TTL Linear Scale(50-1000mm)
1.Physical length is differnt from the travel length 50/100,150,200,250,300,350,400,450,500, 550,600,650,700,750,800,850,900,950,1000mm 5um.
2.High Precision linear scale
3.Resolution: 5um (0.005mm) 0.0002”
4.Signal: TTL square
5.Grating pitch: 0.02mm (50LP/min)
6.Accuracy: ±0.005 mm or 0.0002" (at 20 deg C)
7.Reference marks at interval of 50mm
8.Response Speed: 60m/min or 40ins/sec
Note: Buyers may choose any scale measuring length under 1000mm at this price.In fact,The scale can be made from 0-3000mm.Scale length above refers to the real travel of the linear scale. Actual physical length is 141mm longer than travel. One inch equuals to 25.4mm.
Features:
-The sliding part adopts the five-bearing system which has been proved to be the most reliable and durable. The main grating adopts 90-degree assembly, which is more accurate and accurate. -The repeatability of the measurement is more stable.
-The signal line adopts multi-layer isolation steel and metal soft shell protection, waterproof and anti-interference fine.
-Ruler body with aluminum die-casting, hard chrome plating, corrosion-resistant.
-Dust bar with special plastic, corrosion resistance, scratch resistance, friction resistance.
-Parts individual, installation, maintenance, easy maintenance, waterproof, dust-proof good, long service life.
-The sensor uses a glass precision metrology grating as the measurement reference.
-Multi-function, easy to operate, reliable and durable, so that the necessary processing of mechanical products.
Package Included:
Note: The item just includes 1pcs item which you select.
(JCS900-2AE/JCS900-3AE Readout/50-1000mm Linear Scale)
-(Axis digital readout including 1 x Axis digital readout,1 x set of brackets,1 x cable,1 x user manual)
-TTL linear scale includes 1 x linear scale,1 x L plate,1 x bracket,1 x bag of screw) - Наука та технологія
Dude, fantastic video. Really like how you did more than simple measuring tests on accuracy than many videos.
Fantastic! I've wondered about these DROs. Thanks for making this video.
Hi
Best DRO description i have seen and very nicely installed.
I cant believe you shortened them without a problem.
It on my list to get one soon and im working out the lengths now.
Thanks you and keep up the good work
Paul
Thanks Paul, comment like your give me inspiration to making videos, thanks, and heave a nice day.
Thanks for this video. I have a very old mill I bought a readout like this for. It’s not a standard configuration and mounting the scales was challenging me. Your mounting technique on this little mill got me thinking outside the box and I have 2 axis done. I need to shorten my Y and that’s next. Thanks again for the inspiration!
Thank you. I was having problems deciding on how to mount the Z axis reader head. I like the way you did it. Very well done.
Thanks so much. I didn't know glass scales could be custom cut in this way! Very useful.
one of the better step by step dro videos thanks.
Just found yr video ..thanks its detailed..I happened across same dro readout ..just lacked scales now I see what I need and your video really helps
Ive just installed a Sino verso on my very similar mill, I didnt bother with the Z axis and continued with the original OEM one. Very helpful video thank you, what a life changer a DRO is on a mill :)
Thanks for showing how straightforward it was to shorten the scale length. I wouldn't have dared to try it for fear of breaking it!!
Someone just saw them, but i wouldn't do that 😉
Hi , Thank you ! Great Job On the Description Of the Installation and the Modifying the Sensors ! ! Subscribed !
Thanks man, did you work with that excavator? i just bought a mini excavator takeuchi TB025 for home use on a small farm for making some road and loading heavy logs of wood, cuz i can't work hard anymore, got spine surgery 7 weeks ago.
that's the best DRO installation and tour of functions video I have seen to date
well done!
Thanks tiger
Excellent video, this answered a lot of questions I didn't even know I had...
Subbed!
Thanks man
This is the neat and cleanest shop job I ever see in tube.
Thanks man, i work everything in that workshop from assembeling new pc, repair electronic, to grinding, milling... just welding (and grinding) do in other room, so it must be clean, anyway find the chip anywhere :)
When the project is done, simply take vacuum cleaner and a 10 minutes and that's it.
Thank you.
Nice organized shop. I wish I could keep my shop nice too.
One of the best videos on this topic. Most of the others spend way too much time on deciding scale location which changes per mill.
Thanks friend
Thank you for the video! Very nicely done! Your english is fine, and I appreciate the time and effort this took.
Thanks, man, it's really take lot of time, only for mounting DRO need two weaks, and also my wife need to help me with drilling a few holes, but that's just because i just got spine surgery, and i'm very limited with agility and frce i can make, so far only 3kg, but right now i'm in rehabilitation, where we work out on muscle. Heave a nice day.
@@TinC33 I wish you a speedy and full recovery, and hope that you can continue to share your work with us.
Very useful video on DRO, Subscribed✓ Thank you, from Coventry in UK.
Thanks heaps for upload. This is awesome. Particularly in regard modifying the length.
Thanks
I have the same DRO on my mill.. love it.
Good job. I am installing a 2 axis on my mill. Is coming in the mail. Hope the lengths work.
One of the best DRO videos I've watched so far. Thanks for the great show and sharing you experience with the set up. Best Wishes & Blessings. Keith Noneya
Thanks man
Nice work. Thanks for the installation and review.
Thanks, no problem
the only video I foundo about how to use that display. I am making the same upgrade. thanks
Great DRO video and great wall art. I have the same (I think) DRO to install very soon. Thanks, Craig
Thanks Craig, what you think about "wall art" the posters on the door? ;)
@@TinC33 Yes - that's what I was talking about :)
Nice one, a pleasure to watch.
Thanks
Nice video, well done. Very clever mounting solutions
Thanks
you are amazing... I love your videos..keep them coming !!
Thanks
This is the BEST explanation of installing a DRO on UA-cam ... lot of people talking WAY TOO much and not SHOWING any of the work! I’m installing mine right now and just had to stop and thank you for this video ... I bought 2 ... 1 for my lathe and the other for my mill ...I bought mine from AliExpress and got the LCD version
Thanks man, i wish they serve you good.
TinC33 unfortunately the scale I cut is not working ...
@@sonnytee what's the problem, number stay the same when moving or what, check the optical sensor so there is no dust and be sure that you turned the glass right, on top (out of aluminium groove) must to be grinded a bit radius side of a glass.
TinC33 yes the number stays the same and soMeTime change but only for a second
@@sonnytee strange, try to clean sensors with compressed air, and check if you mount the glass on right way.
Fantastic! I've had this same DRO for at least 10 years now (was running it on my lathe using only two of the axis). But I wanted to move it to one of my mills - which just happens to be... the same as yours! :O This will save me SO much re-inventing of the wheel. Oh, only thing I would do, is glue a sheet of thin felt (etc) under your Z bracket so it doesn't hit the scale.
Thanks man, and good idea. If there will be need i add some more shield, or wipers or whatever, but so far work good, they already "swim" into steel chips a few times.
Thanks for the detailed fitting instructions...........not all mills are the same as far as fitting position is concerned........I have a jig borer that is now a mill so fitting is a bit of a challenge in mounting position differences.
BTW.....I wholly applaud the fact that you dismantled the glass scale to cut the aluminium and lastly the glass scale.....that makes it super easy with the diamond cutter in the Dremel and is far more precise.......I cannot imagine how anyone could think of cutting through the scale with a bandsaw even though it worked for them.
True, my eyes bleeding when i saw entire scale clamped into band saw, but it worked, because there are a bit longer glass then actuall needed.
Man, you have some skill! I have unfortunately just bought the Igauging DRO like you had before. I would have bought this if I knew it worked so well, but for now I will live with the other one.
Ah it's not big deal but thanks, yrs this one is on another level, but it's quite big for small machine like mine, but everywhere lot of empty spaces, it could be made much smaller easily.
Igaging work good but it's just to slow for work smooth.
Cool work sir 👍👏
Best vdeo that I've seen on this topic.
Thanks
Very good video, thank you. 😎👍
Fantastic video. Thanks so much!
Excellent video. Thanks.
Nice video, thanks!
Brilliant!
Very well installed!
Thanks
Complimenti, bel lavoro!
Thanks
Great video - Thanks!!!
great video awesome explanations
Thanks man
This video is excellent, it never occurred to me that glass scales could be cut to length. Thank you. Oh, and I should say that 'Igaging' is pronounced 'eye-gay-jing'
Thanks, i see some video where guy just cut it in a saw, without take it apart, he muat get lock with a glass, thanks for correction, apriciate. Heave a nice day.
@@TinC33 I came across this video today and it's the first of your's I've seen. I like how meticulous you are and how clear your description of what you are doing is. I'm looking forward to watching your other videos. :-)
deaniweenie Thanks man, english is a pain in my ass, but somehow it going, hope you understand good, and the comment like yours, give me the inspiration (fuel) to make videos, that's just my hobby anyway, beside of real job and a small farm.
Very clean installation. Well done!
I think I would be afraid to cut that glass😅
you think i wasn't? :) but anyway it cut nice and easy
I just did this tonight ... the glass cut fast using the proxxon and diamond wheel ... it was easy .... putting the little rubber pieces is HARDER than you made it look 😂 it’s a tight fit ... I’m literally doing it right now.
Nice job. I’m sold
Thanks ;)
Great video! I really liked that you showed many of the little "gotchas" that you run into in mounting these things, the clearances, angles, adapters needed...great. when cutting the glass scale with diamond wheel, did you use any water? I made a water dripper from used medical infusion bag and line, which has a little roller to adjust the drip rate...you can maybe get these from a veterinarian?
Thanks...BTW, do you watch ski jumping? Beautiful country you have, sir!
Thanks, no i didn't use coolant, because i only mark the line than broke the glass with a bit of force, if we want to cut through we need to use water, actually i'm one of few slovenian who don't watch ski jumping, maybe here and there because ither watching on tv 😉 where are you from?
Bardzo dobry film. teraz wiem jak to działa, bałem się ile luzu zostawić dla czujnika. Dzięki Tobie już wiem jak czujnik działa. Pozdrawiam z Polski
Ja rowniez pozdrowiam. Polak na rowniku
Excellent!
Good job 👏 🙂
Very nice thank you
NICE JOB!!!
Thanks
nice video. thanks
It was good to see that the glass can be cut. Thanks for the vid.
Yea, someone didn't even dissasemvle them, just cut entire scale on bandsaw, because glass is 2-3cm longer then measuring distance, but i won't try my luck on that way
@@TinC33 Thank you for the response. I have been researching these DRO's all afternoon. It is not clear to me how to determine the size needed. I watched videos that show how to measure travel by marking the table and the mill base. However, shouldn't the length simply be the bed length for x and the bed width for y? And is that not why you cut them? What am I missing? Thanks.
@@GogebicYooper if you order 300mm rail it is working area, so entire leingt is longer than 300mm, so i cut to perfect leingt. You can see into video how much longer they come.
Great job and lots of information but is it that much better for a mini mill
nice clean setup Y axis cable might be bending a little bit tight you could probably give it a little more room by swapping X and Y cables in a clamps
Hello, firstly i try axactly as you say, but the cable constantly come out, this posittion is just great because cable hold under the scale itself, maybe look a bit tight, but it isn't.
Also not many time move table to the limit, and if i do i can just put cable out of (under the rail) and there's bunch of place, like on 15:36
Y axis reader could be flipped with cable pointing towards rear I did this on mine works great
No need to completely disassemble the scale to cut. Just take off one end cap and move reader to the other end. Shim the glass on both sides with wood or plastic at the cut location to keep the glass rigid. Cut with the band saw through aluminum, glass and wiper all at the same time. Just file the end square, clean up and retap for the end cap. Done!...I've done several this way.
I saw that but i don't know look so dangerous to broke the glass...
Pozdrav Tin dali je precizzniji i bolji od onog sto si prije imao?
Nice clean instalation, well done. I got the same set but on aliexpress and it cost me 174€ and posted from spain so i had no extra import/customs duties to pay. I always wondered about the glass scale and what it looked like as i have only seen it from the ends, and i git 1 scale slightly too long so i might shorten it now that i know how. I would like your opinion on your X axis autofeed, my machine is slightly bigger but not much and did not come with the autofeed so i'm trying to decide weather or not to buy the same one or build one. from the outside it looks the same as the one available for my machine and will fit directly. Thanks for sharing.
That's great to hear, i also got this from netherland EU so i don't need to pay any tax, that's great.
About x axis automatic feed, it's woth the gold bealive me, really great stuff i don't know it that one fit to your machine, here is the link to other brand than i got:
www.probois-machinoutils.com/en/mandrins-et-options-pour-perceuse-fraiseuse-metal/4091-automatic-feeding-for-milling-machine-holzmann-bf25vln.html
But you can get it gor about $300, it+s just a 90vdc motor with a reductor and knob for turn on or off the gear, but i got constantly turned on because you can easily move axis manualy also if it turned on.
Also i thinking to add another geared motor for the Y axis, if i work more i use drill to move Y axis, as you can see on 18:02
Like yor movies and smart thinking
thanks
Good video well explained. Could you please explain what the composition/ brand of that solder you used, thanks.
Thanks, I use Durafix Easyweld Aluminium Welding , Brazing & Soldering Kit but there are many brands, now also got them on banggood for 10$, i buy that one years ago, and that was the only i found, price for 4pcs of rod was about 40$ that time.
Heater is basic torch from a local shop, work better like rothenberger roxy, wich is more hot, but got too small fire, you need to heat entire part preatty goos so it can be soldered nicely.
i have the same dro on my mill at home ,i can tell you that it's accurate down to 0.006mm over 850mm of travel...if the dro at my work is correct,and it shoud be,sinse that entire machine cost more than i make in 5 years-i can however guess that it may vary from one set to another
Hi, thanks for this wonderfull video, congratulations for your both perfect technical an scientific approach. I've got the same machine and wonder about :
- due to it's drilling/milling design, did you find a real interest in use for the Z axis ?
- In the case I would invest later in the third rule, is it possible to buy a 3axis display, but use only the X and Y rule ? Will the "2 dimensions" functions accept to work in this condition ?
Thanks
Sure you can buy 3 axis display and only use two linear rails, i don't remember if i use Z axis but if i only use them once, because this mill already got a z axis dro on spindle and more or less i use this as z axis, real z only use for rough adjust...
Wish I had one but money is tight. Great video. Hope it lasts you a lifetime. What we wish was 800mm long, but isn't, skews our perspective ....as men. Measure twice, cut once, curse, repeat. Very nice work. Oh by the way, I thought your English was Good. If a hillbilly from the Hills of Tennessee, USA can understand every word, anyone can.
Želim si, da bi imel eno, ampak denar je tesen. Odličen video. Upam, da bo trajalo celo življenje. Kaj želimo je bilo 800mm dolgo, vendar ni, skews naše perspektive.... kot moški. Izmerite dvakrat, enkrat cut, prekletstvo, ponavljam. Zelo lepo delo. Oh mimogrede, mislil sem, da je tvoja angleščina dobra. Če hribovec iz Hills of Tennessee, lahko ZDA razumejo vsako besedo, lahko kdorkoli. -Prevedeno s programsko opremo za prevajanje linije.
Thanks man, i know for someone who don't use them that much, price is still high, but when you got them you forgot the money fast, because working with dro is so much easier and more precisier.
Banggood is expensive, I got the exact same one on aliexpress for 147€ free postage and from chech-republic so no customs to pay in europe, it also came with full length aluminium covers for each axis, its worth shoping around. Not as cheap as a gift for advertising but i cannot complain with what i paid,
Great video! Where did you buy your vise? I love it!
Great vise apsolutely great for the price about 100-120€ years ago, buy them on ebay.
@@TinC33 looks like it would be a really good one nice deep jaws. I’ll have to look around on eBay and see if I can find those.
Im about to follow your lead my friend
Hi,
after opening the read head, do you think it is possible to change the orientation of the cable outlet? In some configurations, the cable will collide with the attachment of the scale.
I suppose the thread of the cable outlet could be quite unusual…
I think you can drill another hole and put cables trough, but be carefull on chips (remove all electronics) and seal every hole before use
Nice video. Thanks. I assume you are in Slovenia? Love your country!
Thanks, me too, really nice place to live, i live on country so just a few houses and small farms and lot of nature, but politition is sucks like preatty much everywhere.
You are one of first in last few years who notice connection between my logo and country
@@TinC33 - I have spent some time (just a few weeks) working in Krsko. Made some good friends there and had some great times. It is a beautiful country.
I agree, we all have problems in our countries, and politicians have a lot to do with it.
@@duncanpotter5838 great, do you work in our only nuclear power plant krsko? I live about 150km from krsko, (Cerkno) but right now i'm really close to krsko, because i'm in therme (spa) on rehabilitation, i got spinal disk surgery 6weeks ago, now i'm without pain wich is great but very limited with "hard work" so far i'm limited to 3kg lifting max...
Where are you from?
@@TinC33 - Yes, I was working at NEK/Krsko. Great people to work with.
The mill looks like the equivalent of the Optimum BF20? I wonder if any choice of scale would have been right, and it's better to go longer and cut them down.
It is the same those mill can buy in many different brands and they are all quite the same, i advice to take longer and cut them down you can get exact perfect leinght, it's not a hard job.
Hi, was your X achsis motor included in your machine? Any idea where I can get one to add it to my machine? Thank you!
Yes it was already on it, google it for "holzmann auto feed" than try to contact your local dealer if that machine, bernardo, optimum, grizzly... Those machines are all the same.
Hi, was the power feed original or did you buy it separately? What is the designation (model) of the power feed? Thanks
hello, it was on machine when i buy used one. i saw holzmann sell separatly also and i'm sure it fit on every brend of this type machine, it got no special name just google for "Automatic feeding for milling machine Holzmann BF25VLN" it cost about 400-500€
very nice video and cool information. can you put a picture of the connection of the DRO power into the milling machine
thanks
How do you like your milling machine
@@can5projects563 very like, for the price, you can see more about that on my latest video where i replace the motor:
ua-cam.com/video/An07imxe4WM/v-deo.html
The plastic cover isn't just to prevent coolant from getting on the screen it's mainly there to stop the Oils that are naturally on your fingers that are acidic from dissolving the ink on the buttons. 🤦
Great video. Just installed my DRO (just like you, i mounted yours over the power switch) and i am still waiting for glas linears. When i saw you mentioned that you ordered the wrong ones, i paused the video and checked my order. I ALSO ordered the wrong size :) In panic i ordered another two (1 would still fit, the rest was too big) and asked the seller if i could return part of the order.. Then i pressed play your video again.. LMAO here.. I guess i could have cut mine aswell, but the glas part seemed sketchy so i am glad i didn't jump into that. Pretty sure i would break it. Does it matter what end you cut it on? Are they incremental?
thanks, no it doesn't metter, because you can set zero in any position :)
@@TinC33 Let's see. I might actually keep em, cut em and have 2 extra for something else.
Excellent instruction video - what solder are you using to fill up the bend point on Y axis bracket? - I tried with lead solder after removing oxide layer on aluminium, but solder will not adhere ... Please advise .. Many thanks!
I used some rods for welding aluminium. You can buy on ebay, banggood...
@@TinC33 OK great got it ... thanks!
Hello Tin, what kind of power feed do you use on the milling machine x axis?
I got same as this one, but it's same brand as mill (px-tools) but that mill and equipement is all the same but different brand, like holzmann, bernardo, optimum...
I got it original with a mill.
For Y axis i use battery drill, but planning to make automatic feed also on y axis, just instal one small dc motor with spees regulation and connect to a handle with a belt, but must to make also mechanism to plug off so still can be used manual.
That X Automatic feed is great, because you can turn manual also if the system connect, there is a knob to disconnect gear from feed but almost don't use it, just got conneczed all the time.
www.probois-machinoutils.com/en/amp/product/mandrins-et-options-pour-perceuse-fraiseuse-metal/4091-automatic-feeding-for-milling-machine-holzmann-bf25vln.amphtml
@@TinC33 Thanks for the quick reply! I want to buy from Aliexpress, an ALSGS like this: www.aliexpress.com/item/32705773254.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.540a3c00s1bBVl&mp=1
TinC33 I happened to look here.. I’m in France so this is perfect ... I have Bernardo KF20
Super ..:
Brilliant, just about to fit exactly the same DRO to my WARCO WM12Mill, what is your X axis power feed,looks like it would fit mine.
different brand, but tottaly same as this one:
www.probois-machinoutils.com/en/mandrins-et-options-pour-perceuse-fraiseuse-metal/4091-automatic-feeding-for-milling-machine-holzmann-bf25vln-9120039909288.html
Thanks that’s a great help.
Hello,
What name is your mill ? Also what is the box on the left of your mill table ? It seems It's to move the table with a motor . Any link to buy it ? Thanks a lot for the video.
My mill is PX tool 20 same as optimum or bernardo, grizzly size 20 or 25, that think is called power feed, there's a motor and switch for left and right and a pot to set speed, right cnob is clotch to turn on or off entire autofeed.
Search for powerfeed, there are many different version i use ona like here:
www.probois-machinoutils.com/en/mandrins-et-options-pour-perceuse-fraiseuse-metal/4091-automatic-feeding-for-milling-machine-holzmann-bf25vln-9120039909288.html
Where did you get the power feed for your mill?
i got them with a mill, but google it there are many different versions
thnx for video. i have clone bridgeport milling machine i'm looking DRO and have 2 option for precision 5µm or 1µm... i'm confused about this, I'd like to get your opinion....
Also this one is 1 or 5 um select in settings, i try to set to 1um resolution but its so impossible to get 0.000 so i quickly switch to 5um 😅
@@TinC33 tnx
Hello - super video!!! I have a similar mill from Paulimot and I also want to attache a DRO.
I saw that you have a drive installed for the x axel. Can you supply me with the name of the manufactorer? Thank you
Thanks, mine is some china brand PX-Tools, but it's same, as bernardo, oprtimum, paulimot...
so far i only see auto feed unit to buy separatly from holzmann, here is the link, look exactly same as mine.
www.holzmann-maschinen.at/EN/feeding-unit-201
@@TinC33 Thank's a lot for your answer
I send a video and they offer 25$ coupon, i refuse and ask to exchange or refond . After exchanging email they never give me anyting. So y bought à New 650 mm from Amazon
Interesting video. Quite well explained but too much fast forward has lost me. I have a Sieg SX2LF and and the first problem is, I can't find a power feeder for this type of mini mill. Secondly, I have exact type of linear scales as shown here. and they are longer than the ordered lengths. I have two, one for X axis (ordered as 400 mm but came as 520 mm) and the other for Y axis (ordered a 250 mm but came as 360 mm), I have no choice but to shorten them to fit the milling table (X) and the Y movement. Your video about how to shorten the scales is excellent, particularly the removal and shortening of the glass strip. Hadn't it been fast forwarded I would have had a better idea on how to do it because, I believe, the shortening of the scales is quite a delicate operation, meaning, stuff it up and you're done. So, up to the installation of the scales to the machine, I mostly understood, but the ending part where it is programmed or tuned, I am somewhat lost. I purchased the DRO from Banggood, less the linear scales, in October and have had a lot of bang but not good, as I have been trying to understand why the scales are sold over sized. And this video does explain it all. As for the third scale (Z). I will do that later, as I have to decide where to install it beside the machine. Your machine is quite a beauty, however, at the end of the video it looked like the machine was working like a CNC, like auto milling the work. Do you have that on your Mill? Also, do you know where to get an auto feeder for my Sieg milling machine? Mine is smaller, but packs quite a punch, quiet too. Once again, thanks for the video, I feel confident and happy to try to shorten the scales now. Cheers mate.
Thanks, i got this kind of power feed, it come with a machine, and it's not cnc just x axis got power feed
www.probois-machinoutils.com/en/mandrins-et-options-pour-perceuse-fraiseuse-metal/4091-automatic-feeding-for-milling-machine-holzmann-bf25vln-9120039909288.html
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I like it because it acts as an extended table.
I am just starting to shorten the scales (2). Does it matter which end of the scale should be shortened?
@@mickcarson8504 no
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Where is your vice from, the one I have like a Kurt I end up losing y travel
That vice is from ebay, and its amazing for the price, it was only about 120€
How did you ever figure out how to order the special and get the scales you needed?
There are not special leingh, you can choose leinght on every 50mm if you need special leinght buy longer and shorten them yourself.
@@TinC33 Every time I tried to get the deal it ended up being $289 - $320. Tanks for getting back to me so quickly.
Is that in USD or UKD, or AUD? My DRO is a digital screen and came without the 3 axis from Banggood. I have to find the matching axis, don't know where to get them from.
Usd, you can buy also the axis from same link, jist choose size and add to cart, then choose another size and add to cart...
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Thanks for responding. For a Sieg SX2LF Mini mill, what size should I buy, bro?
@@mickcarson8504 check your move on each axis and buy 5cm longer than total move you can stil cut them.
@@TinC33
I can't believe this. You say, check the full movement of each axis and buy the gratings one inch longer. Yet, the stupid Banggood, I've sent them 6 emails, asking for the correct size to go with the LCD DRO and they keep repeating the same thing about buying them separately. Of course, I keep telling them, of course I know about buying them separately, but what length, what is the size to go on a Sieg SX2LF? And they emailed again, same shit about "You have to find them..." yada yada yada, again and again. At this rate with Banggood, it will be Christmas soon, WTF?
So, do these axis devices plug on all DROs behind or are they only for selected DROs, e.g. your axis doesn't work on mine because yours is push button, while mine is touch screen LCD? Or, are they all the same? My DRO is a YIHAOGD LCD 3 Axis, but came without the axis gratings.
@@mickcarson8504 true it's a bit tricky to find right leinght, that's why i tell how long is each i order, but always better to order longer, because you can shorten ghem but not extend.
The dro display are different and i'm not 100% sure but i'm 98% that rails work with all kind of display, specialy if they'r from same manufacturer
Hello, are you willing to share the *stl files for the power feed limiter?
Give me your email and i send them to you, no problem
@@TinC33 great, thanks very much: fred {dot} smits {at} hccnet {dot} nl
It would have been nice to see the actual accuracy of the dro.
Where did you buy your desk pad?
I fund it in some fabric store, cost about 50€
@@TinC33 Could you please tell me the name on the desk pad?
@@Infinitesap mine is brand OLFA desk pad
kje si pa stroj kupu ce ni skrivnost ?
Kupu z druge roke kot nov, ceprav sem ze imel predračun za novega, ta je precej neznane znamke vendar ima nekaj predbosti recimo mk3 konus, ostali te velikosti majo vecina mk2, kupljen je bil v neki trgovini ki ne opstaja več depoles al nekaj les se mi zdi ;-) dobiš pa te stroje v avtriji bernardo.at ali nemciji optimum.de, nekaj ma tut wd tehnik, pa holzmann, malo morje je tega, ampak px-tools pa bisem se nikjer videl, sem pa zadovoljen super masinca, dovolj togo za kovino sam mal pamet treba met, tam 3mm komot šponaš z pravim orodjem.
Sarebbe stato molto interessante capire passo passo il funzionamento in dettaglio del DRO anziché così velocemente...
Maybe but need 30 min long video to explain all the functions, as i say who will buy them figured out all the function really soon, because it's somekind logic...
What about import taxes?
I don't got them, banggood start to ship via netherland, so last time i reaceived everithing from netherland (EU) so there's no tax, maybe thay payed before, and also banggod offer us insurance for tax, so if you must to pay tax banggod will give you back all the money till last cent you need to pay. I use that sometimes and it actually work.
Top, that must be ordered exactly in the link because there are several choices. Is it possible to put the cart type comment
cordially
Banggood sell 3 different dro's but i test this one and give you a link only for that dro, because i don't know others.
here in that product link is all you need, but need to make at least 3 orders with different "size" you need one digital read out 2 or 3 axis and 2 or 3 scales, choose the leinght you need.
TinC33 is it possible to put me the link cordially
@@speedfight49 you mean that:
www.banggood.com/custlink/GDDvelDz9C
Its a link to that product, than you firstly choose one reedout, put to cart, than choose scale leinght you need, put to cart and so on, than just go to cart and buy, is that what you think, because i don't understand perfectly
As TimC33 suggests, you need to add four items to your cart. The 3-axis readout is the very first option. After adding this to the cart, you add three of the linear scales. You can combine any sizes of scales you want.
I didn't know it was possible to shorten the scales until I saw this (very interesting) video.
TinC33 Or can I find the 3 axis machine to automate it with this material?
How in the world did you get this for under $200??? DRO Readout and 3 scales??
I get it for free but years ago when i filming this readout and 3 short scales cost about 200$ but every day everithing is more and more expencive also from china.
what kind of mill is that?
Chineese px tools px-25lv preatty much the same as other brand like bernardo / optimum /grizzly... Models 20-25
Build a Stepper motor on all axis - Problem solved
But than absolutly go to cnc conversion, but need to replace threading rod add lubrication of rails... And mill lose his ability... I like this mill because it's manual, so i can align some edge in a few second, meanwhile i can't eaven start a pc... If i go for the cnc i will make new smaller mill. This one will alwas stay manual, because use them toomuch to convert them. But i seriously thinking to add auto support like on x axis also on y axis
Plus if you got just 1/4 turn deadband on the trapezic thread all the information from motor is lie ;-) than mill grab something loose some step and you don't know where you are anymore.
I'm for the DRO ;-)
Have the same DRO from Bangood, One scale never work I ask them a replacemrnt and they never replace it. So i will never by someting from Bangood
Hmm strange, i got few years of experience with banggood and lot of orders, sometime some items, come demaged, not their fault, the'r just seller.... but always, really always we find good solution to solve the problem, basicly i send them a short video about non working stuff and they give me full refund or send me new item.
Did you try to send them videos or photo?
also you can chack if all the cables on socket and sensor are soldered good.
He lost me at 0.0:05 the unpacked packages.