MFJJ's Arrows For Tac!!!

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  • @ny-co3039
    @ny-co3039 3 місяці тому +1

    Thanks to content you put out, I made target arrows; RIP XV 390 gr TAW. 1.2 grains difference from heaviest to lightest. Weighed/ sorted each component. Shooting a G tape on my CBE sight at 75#. Was shooting an L tape for VAP TKO hunting arrows. "Laser beams" hitting 4" groups at 60 yd!
    This channel educated me quickly ramping up my learning curve

  • @warrengiller3615
    @warrengiller3615 2 роки тому +2

    One of the most knowledgeable videos in the fact that you show you doing it vs just talking the whole time. Really learned a ton from watching you do every step. I’m going to buy that arrow jig and stuff off your sight.

  • @juanrodriguez-mu7ko
    @juanrodriguez-mu7ko 9 місяців тому

    Wow awesome Josh! I’m learning so much off your videos. Thanks a million. These guys are the best, I’ve dealt with there pro shop they’ve taken care of me with everything I’ve purchased buy from them guys! They have helped me a ton on everything and is newbie and I’m learning a ton from them there the best guys really truly are. 🙏🏽

  • @Bamamike223
    @Bamamike223 2 роки тому +1

    What a FANTASTIC video! I could have watched you for another hour! Man I learned so much about this process. Every minute counted in this one. Thank you MFJJ. Purchased a true fletching jig! 🤜🤛

  • @mikestrong1378
    @mikestrong1378 2 роки тому +3

    I did a similar process with my hunting arrows this year, but with a couple of tweaks. My arrow setup included a separate insert and collar system, so I weighed the arrows, then the inserts, then the collars, then the points. I put the components into a fishing lure box that had 12 separate boxes to keep track of the "numbering" for each, then plugged them all into a spreadsheet on a computer so I could balance everything out as much as possible. It took a little time, but at the end I could grab arrow 4, insert 10, collar 3 and tip 9 (for example) and had everything end up within about .3 grains of each other. With using cheap field points, I was pretty happy with that, and I'm sure the arrows shoot better than I do.

  • @tylerbeasley311
    @tylerbeasley311 2 роки тому +2

    I love how real this video is! Keep hustling!

  • @jacobjohnson2737
    @jacobjohnson2737 2 роки тому +1

    Just got done building a new dozen RIP TKO's like this, finished w/ 4/10th of a grain split. Appreciate what you do.

  • @darrenlowry7477
    @darrenlowry7477 2 роки тому

    Thanks for showing us what you do and to help us all shoot our best.

  • @juanrodriguez-mu7ko
    @juanrodriguez-mu7ko 4 місяці тому

    Awesome thanks! I’ve bought everything you just used from you thank you.

  • @jacobbrazell8684
    @jacobbrazell8684 2 роки тому +14

    MFJJ, I really appreciate the time you put in for this video. I learned a lot. It would be greatly appreciated if you could do the same thing for your hunting set up this season. Also I have a quick question for you. How much of a difference have you seen it make between left versus right helical?

  • @raymondtapatu6869
    @raymondtapatu6869 2 роки тому +1

    Great video appreciate you for sharing your knowledge and expertise on building a perfect arrow it just makes sense appreciate all your content you share ❤

  • @jons7e
    @jons7e 2 роки тому +13

    I went with Easton Sonic 6.0 with 3 Bohning Heat vanes to maximize speed and minimize the effects of wind. The Victory RIP XV were even lighter, but more expensive. In the end, I went with the less expensive option because it hurts less to miss at TAC. Will a TAC specific setup make a huge difference, IDK, but that flatter trajectory is a requirement for the longer shots.
    I like using hot melt because you can't really make a mistake and you can always redo it. With super glues, you better be quick because it will bond quickly and it's nearly impossible to get it back out again without damaging the arrow or the insert.
    I weighed everything to attempt to get matching arrows. Even the vanes would vary and I was grouping them by weight. Am I good enough to tell downrange, not even close, but it can only help.

  • @BobBowers1967
    @BobBowers1967 2 роки тому +1

    Might have been a long video, but that's how long it takes to do the job right. I do the same thing and end up with arrows very close in weight. One thing I like to do as well is check all my shafts for spine consistency. I normally will get 3-4 dozen shafts, then run them through the RAM carbon spine tester and make sure I get 1-2 dozen that are exactly the same as each other. Then I move to what you did above. The only difference for me is I might sort by point weight and match them up, then glue the point in, then shoot the bareshaft through paper to verify weak plane, then mark that in case it is different than the spine alignment mark on the Victory shafts. Then I weigh my fletchings and batch them out per shaft and glue them up from there. So is it tedious? Absolutely, but putting together the absolute best shafts you can that you have 100% confidence in is key. When your arrow is off it's mark, if you have shafts like these then you know it was you. That feeling is priceless and worth the time it takes to make up super awesome arrows.

  • @bryanparryhunter
    @bryanparryhunter 2 роки тому

    Thank you for leaving in all the bits where you may not be talking but you're working. I have taught myself quite a bit through UA-cam, including rebuilding the 289 in my 65 mustang and replacing transmission. Research becomes a deep dive because content is cut out or "assumed we know that."
    You can tell me I need to glue the veins on, but how many strokes you use of the glue, at what angle and pressure you apply to the vein as you sintall it is important information i can get by watching.

  • @sthompson447
    @sthompson447 2 роки тому

    Thank you for taking the time to make such a thorough video. I learned a ton!

  • @dustinadams5374
    @dustinadams5374 4 місяці тому

    This was such an educational video thank you!

  • @steven_farmer89
    @steven_farmer89 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for putting this out with TAC being just around the corner. I might have to pick me up a dozen, i just picked up RIP TKOs, so maybe not. lol
    P.S. Happy Early Birthday!

  • @allanwalters7900
    @allanwalters7900 2 роки тому

    You explained everything when you make a video keep up the great work

  • @timbow50
    @timbow50 2 роки тому +7

    I've found that cleaning the carbon dust from inside the shafts with 91%+ alcohol and q-tips really improves the adhesion. I also wipe down the shafts and the base of every vane- no matter what vane company.

    • @rileymod6541
      @rileymod6541 2 роки тому +1

      use denatured alcohol or it will leave a residue

    • @rick31869
      @rick31869 2 роки тому

      @@rileymod6541 SO THE STUFF IN THE PAINTING SECTION ? , is better than the alcohol we use for cuts and stuff . wow , i never gave it more thoughts . same thing with acetone , i have seen people use the dollar tree version that has vitamin E added lol .

  • @bowtiethunder1
    @bowtiethunder1 2 роки тому +2

    Another awesome video!! I am curious if you have ever thought of selling “packages”? For instance putting everything you used in this video in a “MFJJ tac arrow package” or a Dan from Elk Shape tac arrow or Elk hunting arrow package? I would like to try this arrow setup and would have definitely purchase it in a package link from the video. I am purchasing them regardless, it would just make it a little easier. I’m putting a list together for other items I need to order and will be doing that soon. Anyway just a thought. Thanks again for the great videos and content.

  • @connordejac9554
    @connordejac9554 2 роки тому +4

    Your great! Can we get an arrow length video?! I'm shooting a v3x 33 with C mods (30.5dl) and want to know what length my arrows should be cut carbon to carbon, appreciate the help!!!

  • @pattowle4434
    @pattowle4434 2 роки тому

    Building arrows like this is similar to the way I build golf clubs. Nice job MFJJ.

  • @JS-ji5bl
    @JS-ji5bl 2 роки тому

    Great video very informative as usual.👍🏻✌🏻

  • @phillipwhittaker2389
    @phillipwhittaker2389 2 роки тому +3

    What will be your TAC setup your going with this year? For these arrows?

  • @CharlieNDaTree
    @CharlieNDaTree 2 роки тому +1

    New thumb nail @ 3:17. Be sure to pause it before going to it

  • @quackaddict2750
    @quackaddict2750 7 місяців тому

    Thanks for the video. Those arrows came from the factory spine tested, but wouldn't the spine change once the arrow is cut to length? This would require you to find the spine again, correct?

  • @robertmiller172
    @robertmiller172 2 місяці тому

    Thank you MFJJ.

  • @jeffrossi3645
    @jeffrossi3645 2 роки тому

    Hey Josh, just watched a vid with Dan, ranch fairy and iron will bill. They were taking about arrow weight and velocity down range at 60yds. The consensus was heavier arrow is better for kinetic energy and impact was does make sense. Bit do believe in lighter is good as well in certain applications. Would love to see a UA-cam vid by mfjj on his recommendation on arrow weight for elk hunting.

  • @robertmiller172
    @robertmiller172 2 місяці тому

    When installing veins, does the helical matter for performance, or is it just pure preference? Just curious if there is any science proving if one flies straighter, faster or longer with good flight.

  • @aaronhall765
    @aaronhall765 2 роки тому +2

    So you have found the static spine to be accurate for shooting? Static and dynamic can be different in a bow. I haven't tried victory arrows since there HV standard shafts. I wasn't impressed with durability.
    Thanks for showing your build.

    • @thomasstanworth
      @thomasstanworth 2 роки тому

      With 3DHV Sports, I find about 2-4 out of 12 need the nocks rotating during paper tuning as bare shafts so they all tear the same

  • @garrettwentz4518
    @garrettwentz4518 2 роки тому +2

    Hey Josh. Love the video. My friends and I watch all your stuff. Question. Do you try to cut your arrows as short as possible. I have a 30 inch draw length, 70 lb, VXR, Hamskee Epsilon. How short would you cut the arrow if clearance wasn’t an issue? Thanks again!

  • @Hubble-M
    @Hubble-M 2 роки тому

    I'm gonna be going through all this on the tko shafts I ordered from you yesterday once they come in

  • @kenwiltsie6920
    @kenwiltsie6920 5 місяців тому

    Would you really see that big of a change with accuracy or durability when it comes to arrow squaring?

  • @danielboulware2188
    @danielboulware2188 2 роки тому +1

    What arrows would you suggest for someone who's just really getting into archery and not trying to break the bank but not scared to spend money on quality? Looking to hunt this year or next whitetail in Texas. Still new but pretty accurate out to 50-60 yards 5 inch groups at 60 with trash arrows basically. Not losing arrows anymore and wanting to build my own. My brother and I have loved our journey over the last couple of months and you and the other guys have been a huge help and inspiration. 27inch draw 62lb currently shooting a pse drive nxt

  • @Raga985
    @Raga985 Рік тому

    On Victory arrows the line is supposed to represent the stiff side of the arrow not the weak side.

  • @sparrow808
    @sparrow808 2 роки тому

    Have you tried rubbing a very small amount of string wax to the shank of the nock to ease the insert into the bushing?

  • @juanrodriguez-mu7ko
    @juanrodriguez-mu7ko 9 місяців тому

    I gotta get these tools. So I can try this thanks. 🙏

  • @themessytriathlete
    @themessytriathlete 2 роки тому

    The one time I really wish there was a “spec” scene shot at the end of a video!!! Or at least links in the description for buying all these parts…

  • @sticks7971
    @sticks7971 Рік тому

    Do you have an arrow building kit put together that you sell . ? New to this . This looks like something I would really enjoy doing

  • @liamboyle9199
    @liamboyle9199 2 роки тому +3

    Why superglue your bushings?
    I then assume you're going to super glue your points too... why not hot melt?

    • @alpulley4894
      @alpulley4894 2 роки тому

      Same thoughts.
      I hot melt my bushings in. You will at one point get a bent pin nock and you will need to change it out. Much easier with hot melt

  • @jerrymclauchlin6471
    @jerrymclauchlin6471 Рік тому

    Josh. I realize these are target arrows but thought I would get a suggestion from you. I like Victory .166 arrows but cannot seem to build a light enough arrow. They come with 50 gr.. Inserts, I shoot 100 grain broadness and a 350 spine weight. My arrows are 27.5 inches with three TAC vanes. Most arrows are coming in just shy of 450 grains. I would love to find a combination that is 425 or less… any suggestions???

  • @Tony-tz8vv
    @Tony-tz8vv 2 роки тому +2

    Love you videos. You definitely put in the time and can tell you really love archery and are passionate about your job. I have one quick question. What glue do you use to glue in you SS insets on your carbon arrows.

  • @juanrodriguez-mu7ko
    @juanrodriguez-mu7ko 9 місяців тому

    I’m gonna purchase these arrows you said these are for targets yes?

  • @josephdipietro8367
    @josephdipietro8367 2 роки тому +1

    I literally do this same process but I also weight out my vanes, why not, but not good enough to tell the difference. Some day.....

  • @deserthunter5314
    @deserthunter5314 2 роки тому +1

    Mr MFJJ, you said you’re shooting a 350 spine? At 30 inches DL and 70-75 pounds I thought that sounded a little weak, but then again I’m not near as experienced. Love the content though!

  • @ksmith4884
    @ksmith4884 Рік тому

    I just want to confirm that you didn't add any glue or hot melt on the points to keep them in the arrow?

  • @howarddowe3752
    @howarddowe3752 Рік тому

    What draw weight and length are you using the 350

  • @pnolan67
    @pnolan67 Рік тому

    What specific nocks and nock adapters are you using?

  • @Not_Andrew_Huberman
    @Not_Andrew_Huberman Рік тому

    A complete tool list would be solid

  • @thomasstanworth
    @thomasstanworth Рік тому

    Always interested to see what people build, but may I suggest that’s far too much vane and too much helical for a long range arrow. 2” long and 0.35” approx vane with slight offset and the groups will be much better at long range. Better still, drop the 5mm XVs and shoot a 4mm with higher GPI for a better balanced (for target) arrows.

  • @MotoDUDEabides
    @MotoDUDEabides 7 місяців тому

    What was the total arrow weight and FOC? I think I missed it

  • @thomasehrhart4461
    @thomasehrhart4461 2 роки тому +10

    What was the total weight of the arrow and what poundage are you shooting at TAC?

    • @lilleyton12
      @lilleyton12 2 роки тому +1

      I’m no mathematician but ~207gr arrow with ~120gr point makes ~337gr total arrow weight

    • @Sneakyjoe69
      @Sneakyjoe69 Рік тому

      Yes at 5 grains per vane 5 grains for the nock 2 grains for the bushing maybe 3 grains in glue

  • @dannymoore2982
    @dannymoore2982 Рік тому

    Hey can you give me a suggestion for a arrow and broadleaf combo for southern whitetail deer my bow is a 29 draw and 60 lb of draw weight shooting 40 yards and under be specific,i have been a fan of gold tip arrows but open to anything thanks

  • @donpitopr787
    @donpitopr787 2 роки тому

    Great video. What is the helical you put on those arrows. Left or Right???

  • @kaelangerhardt5651
    @kaelangerhardt5651 2 роки тому

    That was a literal speed build

  • @thestees1617
    @thestees1617 2 роки тому

    VIDEO IDEA - how true or accurate is the "spine align" on the vaps? have a shop near me that says with their expensive spine checking tool (just a hunter here mind the inaccurate verbiage) that the spine align logo is or CAN be inaccurate......just a thought from a fan in south Florida. happy hunting

  • @Vanhamj1
    @Vanhamj1 Рік тому

    so I have what may seem like a silly question, but if you're using a nock insert, and you break off a nock having it get hit by another arrow, is there still enough left to pull the nock out and re-nock the arrow? Would a nock pin insert accomplish the same thing and be easier to re-nock the arrow? Or is there not any difference?

  • @justinwolf2720
    @justinwolf2720 2 роки тому

    Do you have a link to the inserts you used?

  • @CFIRST58
    @CFIRST58 2 роки тому

    Does it help to bare shaft tune target arrows before fletching? I have no experience building any arrows so I hope you don't mind if I asked a dumb question. Thank You!

  • @hoganfan2006
    @hoganfan2006 2 роки тому

    120gr out front with 6.4gpi in the XV 350… how’s he getting 15% or better FOC?

  • @wesmurer6884
    @wesmurer6884 Рік тому

    Hi Jason, I made up some of the same arrows, how do you over come the difficulty of getting them out of foam 3D targets? Thanks, Wes

  • @The-Gun-Show
    @The-Gun-Show Рік тому

    What helical do you do on 3 fletch?

  • @RMC2021
    @RMC2021 11 місяців тому

    I thought Victory marked the strongest part of the spine, not the weakest? I don’t quite understand why they would do it that way since the weakest part of the spine wouldn’t necessarily be 180° from the hardest part. It could be 90° or 32° from the hardest part. Can anyone explain this?

  • @cavemanprecision7589
    @cavemanprecision7589 2 роки тому

    How are you able to shoot up to a 100 and past while keeping the same anchor point and not having to either anchor lower or lift your head up and not have your nose touching the string? I can get to 90 but once it’s pasted that the bottom half of my sight is out of my peep. My bow is shooting a 285 FPS sigh tape from black gold. I also use a nose button and a hamskea peep 5/32.

    • @Blkhulk88
      @Blkhulk88 2 роки тому +1

      Set your peep at 40 when you setup your bow. Will keep you at the same anchor at 100 or more

  • @kylebailey8498
    @kylebailey8498 2 роки тому +1

    I thought that super glue dried when you have lack of air

  • @hoganfan2006
    @hoganfan2006 2 роки тому

    Sorry if I missed it, but which nocks did you use?

  • @bowhnt_az
    @bowhnt_az 2 роки тому

    A plastic reloading block/tray would tame those pesky points and inserts from rolling around

  • @rage9720
    @rage9720 2 роки тому

    Would you hunt with the same arrows? Or just for TAC

  • @MrBrandonPetersen
    @MrBrandonPetersen 2 роки тому

    Awesome video As usual.
    Which arrows were these again? The tko elites or ?

  • @sticks7971
    @sticks7971 Рік тому

    Why can’t i find a left helical jig?

  • @thistledewoutdoors3331
    @thistledewoutdoors3331 2 роки тому

    No way - Lightweight arrows !!!! Thought everyone shoots shovel handles these days ???

  • @hoganfan2006
    @hoganfan2006 2 роки тому

    Very helpful, thank you.

  • @Nick-sz6xb
    @Nick-sz6xb Рік тому

    I'm looking for arrow advice , I currently have RIP TKO 300, 50gr insert, 100 gr tip, I'm new to deer hunting but people are telling me I need to be heavier ? I shoot a phase 4 33, with a 31" draw at 70# .

    • @burksoutdoors8391
      @burksoutdoors8391 Рік тому +2

      Just giving you my experience on the subject. I'm 47 and have been shooting a bow since I was about six years old and bow hunted since I was about 14. I went down the rabbit hole with .166 and "adult arrows" weighing from 600 to 754 grains. I'm 30.5 draw at 70 lb. Practicing at known distances on stationary targets had me very confident. Ended up mis-judging my target Buck by a couple yards and gave him a shave. Absolutely no need for the extra arrow Mass especially at our DL and poundage on whitetail. My opinion is try to be between 425 and 525 grains and no more than 150 total up front. Also found out that micro diameter was not stabilizing nearly as well as 204 or 244 arrows even at extra-heavy spine. I'm back to 244 and 472 grain arrow.

  • @harrisonfloyd2411
    @harrisonfloyd2411 2 роки тому

    Put a swipe of string wax on the nicks they go in those bushings a lot easier

  • @michaelhinds974
    @michaelhinds974 2 роки тому

    What are those veins and specs plz?

  • @alvaropardo6994
    @alvaropardo6994 2 роки тому

    What vanes are those?

  • @letsgobrandon8375
    @letsgobrandon8375 2 роки тому

    What glue was that?

  • @ducatimidnight594
    @ducatimidnight594 2 роки тому

    What poundage did you shoot for tac ? Why did you go with the 350?

  • @perryknetter8577
    @perryknetter8577 Рік тому

    Great video Thank you

  • @alsmith7316
    @alsmith7316 2 роки тому

    Lots of good info, thank you. How are these going to handle cross wind? Will the lighter arrow be more susceptible to wind drift?

  • @michaelcolthart4006
    @michaelcolthart4006 2 роки тому

    Why do you glue in your nock bushings?

  • @denzerjeremy
    @denzerjeremy 2 роки тому

    Spine align or knock tune. If you knock tune there is no point in spine aligning other then a staring point. Inside out Precision does a video about this I think.

  • @jeffmckulsky7081
    @jeffmckulsky7081 2 роки тому

    I learned a ton thanks

  • @iiSkateboardPeteii
    @iiSkateboardPeteii 2 роки тому

    MFJJ how do you keep the insert from being pushed out, even a little, if you have already glued in the bushing? Wont the pressure inside the shaft push back against the insert? I always remove my nocks when putting in inserts for this reason. As meticulous as your arrow build is I cant see you making that mistake.

    • @Badger350
      @Badger350 2 роки тому

      Same question. It doesn’t always happen, but enough to make me comment here.

  • @spincast1974
    @spincast1974 Рік тому

    Wouldn't those 3 50s be under spined.... If you were shooting over 60 pounds.

  • @jakehollenbeck583
    @jakehollenbeck583 2 роки тому +2

    Headphone users beware at like 27:00 😂 bout lost my ear drums

  • @darnellwatkins4031
    @darnellwatkins4031 Рік тому

    You can’t shoot these into a bag, I just fletched these bad boys and now they are hanging out the backside. 😂😂 good and bad problem.

  • @aaronsteffey4353
    @aaronsteffey4353 Рік тому

    I’m guessing you hoard all the yellow nocks? Bought a dozen from Lancaster they came with yellow nocks, bought a dozen from you all at podium and they came orange 😂😂😂

  • @moneyking6659
    @moneyking6659 2 роки тому

    Now for hunting arrows :D

  • @Jeff-jj5tf
    @Jeff-jj5tf 2 роки тому

    Could you please write #TDD on all your tac arrows lol

  • @puckerbutton7025
    @puckerbutton7025 2 роки тому

    sitting here watching you fletch arrows while i break in a new shooting glove...i asked hows your day going expecting a response
    kinda rude of you to not respond

  • @TheFattalon
    @TheFattalon 2 роки тому +1

    I don’t get why people change their setup for TAC. Use what your going to hunt with. If you can’t hit a fake animal that’s not moving then. Don’t even think about trying to kill a real animal.

    • @iwtitan8377
      @iwtitan8377 2 роки тому +3

      because most peoples hunting setup is meant for 20-40yds not 60-120

    • @thomasstanworth
      @thomasstanworth 2 роки тому

      TAC isn’t the same as hunting and so people often want to shoot rigs that will perform better than a typical hunting set up might.

  • @ericzulick7480
    @ericzulick7480 2 роки тому

    MFJJ just want you to know someone is using your channel to scam people according to your channel I just won a new bow.

  • @jarred0301
    @jarred0301 2 роки тому

    .1s of gr are far less of a consideration than wind, and how you shoot shot from shot. That's not to mention the fact your using a scale that is accurate to +- .1 gr. That .1 is truly only a reflection of its accuracy in a specific temp and humidity range, and covered from any air flow in the room. That's not mentioning it being perfectly level is a concern. All that is to say that with some straight forward math you're chasing less than a .1% off total weight. That will not be measurable in any meaningful way. Getting better at reading wind conditions and overall shooting ability is far more of a concern than chasing that weight. It is quite literally an utter waste of time. Honestly the thing you spend the least amount of time and concern on (fletching the arrow) is 10+ times the importance of chasing those couple .1s your not truly capable of measuring in any meaningful way. If that process makes you feel better go for it, but to say it makes a measurable difference is just not true.
    Do you measure and adjust nock tension? That would be further still more important. When you set the arrows on the scale are they set on in the same way across all arrows on the same spot in the scale? No, that effects weight readings.

  • @Piotr-vn1hi
    @Piotr-vn1hi 2 роки тому

    Zwolnij kamerzystę i zatrudnij takiego, który potrafi operować zoom'em. Z takiej odległości nic nie widać co robisz. Łapa w dół 👎