Ahh they kept iso’s scuffed aimlabs mechanic. I’m just glad you no longer have to shoot orbs to get shield. They call it double tap bc you get shot in the head twice when you go to shoot the orb.
I dont think you can call Reyna one is a "buff", more like a "change", because she will be much weaker in lower ranks and I doubt that dismiss speed and longer ultimate will boost her winrate in higher ranks a lot...
How will she be weaker in lower ranks because of the health? If you're doing Reyna properly you hardly ever needed the full 100 and the infinite armor is far stronger lol. It doesn't affect the smurf issue at all
@@funkycrawler619 nah, as a low-rank Reyna main I would say that change will definitely make the Reyna weaker in low ranks. Now you can not just trade your HP and regen almost all of them as you will be weaker in your second 1:1 moment. You know, at lower ranks, it's not about positioning and headshots, it's about who will fire more bullets first. For example: WAS: Start with 100 HP and 50 Armor -> win 4:3 body shots of vandal 1:1 duel -> Regen 100 HP -> End with 100 HP 22 HP Overheal (still can take 4:3 trade with 2 HP left which result in 100 HP 2 HP Overheal after regen) NOW: Start with 100 HP and 50 Armor -> win 4:3 body shots of vandal 1:1 duel -> Regen 50 HP -> End with 72 HP All of these trades are twice as dangerous now.
@@art_gf My point being if you are playing Reyna like that I don't think you're optimizing how to play her and improving (which is the goal for rank to improve) lol and even to what you said "who fires more bullets first" the Ult being infinite alone just compensates a lot for the Heal change.
@@art_gfyea you get it/understand the real gameplay bro even brought receipts *chefs kiss* 🔥 the fact that people don’t understand all you need to win a 4:3 vandal body shot trade is 121 hp is astounding, that’s vital on Sage & even more min-max on Skye I play healers in every game & when I play Val I’m ALWAYS thinking about how many body shots I (or whoever I’m spectating) can take. It’s underrated in lower elo bc there’s more obvious body shot banditry than 1-tapping heads. So the Reyna “changes” are indeed much closer to nerfs than anything else. It’s like calling that 1 viper update a “change” & not a nerf bc they “buffed the molly & nerfed EVERYTHING ELSE” TLDR: the Reyna “changes” are an overall net-nerf. The movement speed buff is a welcome pleasant surprise but the healing really should’ve been tested at 75 before rolling out bc guarantee ppl are gonna be complaining that the new Reyna heal being comparable to Sage’s self heal is gonna feel & will feel awful. ACTUAL TLDR: Reyna changes make her better for high elo where playmakers need her move speed & infinite ult so they don’t feel rushed & she’s crippled in lower elo now that her healing has been cut in half & she can now only take two 4:3 body shot duels down from its original 3-4. So essentially a strict 2 < from 4-ish. Very yikes 💀
One thing I didn't see any content creators do with Iso is to ult WITHOUT casting E. Currently he gets a free double tap when he ults. Does he get a free shield when ulting post buff? Every early access creator REFUSES to naked ult so this question is never answered (despite spamming in their chat do try it...). Guess I'll have to find it out myself when patch drops...
For the Iso bullet tag clip I would have made sure to use the same gun since you walk faster with the classic than you do with the vandal. It makes it look like the old clip slows you down less than the new because you reach the wall sooner.
Iso main here, so fun little thing now is that you can ult decoys and essentially waste your ult now which I'm hoping is unintended. Just ulted a yoru clone and won from shooting it.
nerfing raze like that then buffing neon by a drastic amount is outrageous. truly a dark era for valorant, raze's satchels were a key part in her kit, and now even in lower elo's such as gold I get shot once in a while. now imagine with the current raze nerfs??? I move as fast as someone who's normally just walking.
While I do think they over-buffed neon, they still didn’t need to nerf raze by that much. However, I wouldn’t say that it’s the “dark era” of valorant by any means. The changes made to Reyna and Iso are great, the new map is fun and much more different from previous maps and the armory hud update gives the game a slight refresh. We’ll have to see how much raze is affected but they can always tweak numbers and make changes.
As someone who has a lot of issues with long load times and dc's, this severity increase is going to hit me hard. Already dealing with 1 hour+ timers at least every couple of days :(
I called it balance considering dealing with new meta strategy as neon were getting left out plus it would be fun to see a new changes in the meta, its a win-win ig
Her duels will be much better with her slide and run buffs But her enter will be way weaker with the wall and stun changes Her defense will also be way weaker with only 1 stun
In the old patch, if ISO ulted without casting double tap, he gets a free refreshed charge upon entering (but with no shield). With the new double tap, does he still get a free cast but now WITH shield (if you don't cast double tap prior to ulting)? Or if you want shield into ult you still have to cast double tap first then ult?
Is agent banning still not viable for the game rn? Like i love the buffs but sometimes the nerfs are kind of a cheap way to make players change strats and comps especially if ur only doing it mostly for the sake of character variety in pro play
that Iso buff is insane, basically not 1 hit headshot kill. When valorant was released they promised every character will be 1 hit headshot kill but seems like it is not anymore
I think Yoru's ult is now completely undetectable, when I had a Yoru against me and used his ult, I couldn't see the blue screen thing that shows up if he's near to you
This makes Reyna and Iso to be used more usefully and passively while encouraging clove to be more aggressive. Plus 50 meters is kind of too big (for mid ranks where people dont react to sound queues more often) its gonna result in iso being an unstoppable lurking force with 150 + infinte hp
The new Reyna gonna be crazy in high elo. The dismiss movement speed change is huge. She is gonna be moving from corner to corner really fast, making repositioning much easier for her.
I love the new radio wheel, but I want the radio menu to get the same updates. I really want to say the new voice lines but they simply aren't available on there, and I don't like to use the radio wheel at all.
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We gonna defo is alot of neon plays in Abyss and heaven, atleast in pro, this may also mean a return of the Breach neon comp with gekko as more modern twisr
So I’m playing the closed beta on console atm and I fell like I’m missing something or it’s bugged because when I slide on neon rather than her gun immediately readying I just get the equip animation and aren’t able to shoot during my slide
I like how with Clove they took their worst ability and made it even worse. When watching someone play them I feel like I rarely see them take advantage of Pick Me Up.
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The only thing i dislike about this patch is the raze satchel nerfs. Movement it almost is completely useless to attenpt to satchel now, its way to slow and it will be much easier to shoot a raze satcheling.
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Most of these changes are “Hm sounds fair” and then the few are like “what the actual fuque????!?!???” They are making it into less of a hero game and more of a shooting game.
Neon becomes the younger child of Riot
Cypher share the love with neon and now there both monster
@@jamesluong5299 man cyhper just got nerf like 2 patchs or something
+ fk neon man
And Raze the older 1 😢
@@jamesluong5299cypher was the neglected middle child for 3 years
Closeeeeee. They still didn't give her wall damage back
4:08 this makes me happy
because we can’t hs
we used to pray for times like this
Next target: Ice Box!
Haven my bbg I missed u 😩😩
Ahh they kept iso’s scuffed aimlabs mechanic. I’m just glad you no longer have to shoot orbs to get shield. They call it double tap bc you get shot in the head twice when you go to shoot the orb.
I mean you still have to shoot it for a refresh or a new one. Although I'm gonna have fun dry swinging the op mid
@@CantHandleThis6 Nuh uh, u can get two kills to reset the ability now. Only way I’m shooting orbs now is when I can wallbang them from cover.
@@t.w.o.3081 I know I mean you're still gonna have to shoot em if you don't have 2 kills.
they didn't say they would remove it tbh
@@bigchongus5140 In the past they’ve removed things without mentioning it in the notes, like fade bungee line ups.
4:50 bro got aim
I dont think you can call Reyna one is a "buff", more like a "change", because she will be much weaker in lower ranks and I doubt that dismiss speed and longer ultimate will boost her winrate in higher ranks a lot...
I thought that as well until I saw the movement speed buff and the possibilities it allows for
How will she be weaker in lower ranks because of the health? If you're doing Reyna properly you hardly ever needed the full 100 and the infinite armor is far stronger lol. It doesn't affect the smurf issue at all
@@funkycrawler619 nah, as a low-rank Reyna main I would say that change will definitely make the Reyna weaker in low ranks. Now you can not just trade your HP and regen almost all of them as you will be weaker in your second 1:1 moment. You know, at lower ranks, it's not about positioning and headshots, it's about who will fire more bullets first.
For example:
WAS: Start with 100 HP and 50 Armor -> win 4:3 body shots of vandal 1:1 duel -> Regen 100 HP -> End with 100 HP 22 HP Overheal (still can take 4:3 trade with 2 HP left which result in 100 HP 2 HP Overheal after regen)
NOW: Start with 100 HP and 50 Armor -> win 4:3 body shots of vandal 1:1 duel -> Regen 50 HP -> End with 72 HP
All of these trades are twice as dangerous now.
@@art_gf My point being if you are playing Reyna like that I don't think you're optimizing how to play her and improving (which is the goal for rank to improve) lol and even to what you said "who fires more bullets first" the Ult being infinite alone just compensates a lot for the Heal change.
@@art_gfyea you get it/understand the real gameplay bro even brought receipts *chefs kiss* 🔥 the fact that people don’t understand all you need to win a 4:3 vandal body shot trade is 121 hp is astounding, that’s vital on Sage & even more min-max on Skye I play healers in every game & when I play Val I’m ALWAYS thinking about how many body shots I (or whoever I’m spectating) can take. It’s underrated in lower elo bc there’s more obvious body shot banditry than 1-tapping heads. So the Reyna “changes” are indeed much closer to nerfs than anything else. It’s like calling that 1 viper update a “change” & not a nerf bc they “buffed the molly & nerfed EVERYTHING ELSE”
TLDR: the Reyna “changes” are an overall net-nerf. The movement speed buff is a welcome pleasant surprise but the healing really should’ve been tested at 75 before rolling out bc guarantee ppl are gonna be complaining that the new Reyna heal being comparable to Sage’s self heal is gonna feel & will feel awful.
ACTUAL TLDR: Reyna changes make her better for high elo where playmakers need her move speed & infinite ult so they don’t feel rushed & she’s crippled in lower elo now that her healing has been cut in half & she can now only take two 4:3 body shot duels down from its original 3-4. So essentially a strict 2 < from 4-ish. Very yikes 💀
ascent being in the game for 4 fucking years is criminal
at least now we can jump to unrated for less chance of getting ascent
so bored of ascent bro
split being removed already is criminal. breeze having a chance of coming back is also criminal.
It’s the only good map in the game
And what about Fracture and Pearl?
I really don’t get the point of doing so many maps and then have very short rotation in comp.
One thing I didn't see any content creators do with Iso is to ult WITHOUT casting E. Currently he gets a free double tap when he ults. Does he get a free shield when ulting post buff? Every early access creator REFUSES to naked ult so this question is never answered (despite spamming in their chat do try it...). Guess I'll have to find it out myself when patch drops...
if you ult someone without the doble tap you just 1v1.
if you get the kill it doesnt matter you are not getting the orb
I saw someone do it, and no it does not give you a free E after the changes
@@DisSabot thank you
Dude you are way too aggressive about this
@@guinea_hornno? hes just fed up nothing wrong with that
dismiss speed seems just as fast as raze satchel now
For the Iso bullet tag clip I would have made sure to use the same gun since you walk faster with the classic than you do with the vandal. It makes it look like the old clip slows you down less than the new because you reach the wall sooner.
Yeah I unfortunately didn't realise that until I was done with the video, it does look a little wrong bc of that
@@KangaValorant all good Kanga, keep making sick content o7
@@KangaValoranthow did u go to old patch tho? is there an option?
The neon sliding and shooting is insane. Doesn't belong in a slow paced game like valorant imo
should only get one charge imo or lower slide speed
"slow paced game" "like vralont"
bro i think ur in some fentanyl or something
@@gabgames2345 just because people run it down in your silver games doesnt mean valorant isnt a slow paced game
@@gabgames2345have you ever seen games like cod and apex?
Blud said slow paced 💀
Iso main here, so fun little thing now is that you can ult decoys and essentially waste your ult now which I'm hoping is unintended. Just ulted a yoru clone and won from shooting it.
hasn't this been in the game since iso came out? you can ult the clone and ult a downed kayo when he ults. idk what you're talking about.
Yoru players on their way to troll iso players now😅
And what about when you use kill contract on a phoenix who just ulted that moment before getting into contract.
One change I hope that they add is to allow us to choose which Menu Music we can listen to. (I loved the Previous Patches (8.05-8.08) a lot.
nerfing raze like that then buffing neon by a drastic amount is outrageous. truly a dark era for valorant, raze's satchels were a key part in her kit, and now even in lower elo's such as gold I get shot once in a while. now imagine with the current raze nerfs??? I move as fast as someone who's normally just walking.
Yeahh the whole point of duelists is their movement to take space. Her nade is what needed a nerf and not her satchel. That's what makes her a duelist
It's like they made it easier for enemies to shoot raze in mid air...😢
if you're skilled enough to go faster than the enemies can hit you then I think that's pretty fair
While I do think they over-buffed neon, they still didn’t need to nerf raze by that much. However, I wouldn’t say that it’s the “dark era” of valorant by any means. The changes made to Reyna and Iso are great, the new map is fun and much more different from previous maps and the armory hud update gives the game a slight refresh. We’ll have to see how much raze is affected but they can always tweak numbers and make changes.
@@DiitttooHe have the power of both a dash and an updraft in one skill I don't think how that is fair tbh. Jett spend 2 skill slot on that thing
Even though they decreased the healing time, the healing per second is lower than before, so it’s not like you’ll actually heal faster.
As someone who has a lot of issues with long load times and dc's, this severity increase is going to hit me hard. Already dealing with 1 hour+ timers at least every couple of days :(
Especially living in a tier2 city in india, blackouts are gunna be a problem
neon changes are waay too over powered imo
They would be if she didn't get checked by practically every sentinel lol
Nahh still pretty ridiculous@@funkycrawler619
Y'all are frothing over the sprint and slide but she has one stun and a 4s wall her entry is much weaker
I called it balance considering dealing with new meta strategy as neon were getting left out plus it would be fun to see a new changes in the meta, its a win-win ig
Her duels will be much better with her slide and run buffs
But her enter will be way weaker with the wall and stun changes
Her defense will also be way weaker with only 1 stun
But where the fuck are Pearl and fracture?! Are riot just forget them?
They've added all the maps back to unrated, swiftplay and such. They'e just not in Competitive for now.
They will most likely return once episode 9 releases.
@@Simpl_xityno… haven and abyss are getting rotated in. If you mean later in the episode, then yuh.
Fracture is horrible
Never put fracture back in the map pool
Noone mentioned the larger size of reyna's leer
I think even riot didnt mention it
Is that an actual thing? Definitely wasn’t in the patch notes so could even be unintentional if that’s the case
@@KangaValorant yea when u actually use leer after the patch it seems way bigger
In the old patch, if ISO ulted without casting double tap, he gets a free refreshed charge upon entering (but with no shield). With the new double tap, does he still get a free cast but now WITH shield (if you don't cast double tap prior to ulting)? Or if you want shield into ult you still have to cast double tap first then ult?
According to another another comment, he no longer gets a free shield
i like the ISO buff now he's actually a duelist and not some half ass initiator/duelist. brooo 8.11 is soo much better its a duelist update
fyi guys. the update should release anytime between now and 1pm est
Will there be downtime or is just whenever 🤔
4 hours downtime @@smithy3950
Thanks was wondering abt that
ty bro, i was waiting and i was gonna yell at riot for not dropping the update
@@Scorpyfr⚰️
when does the patch come out? Cause I still don't have it
If I had to guess probably the 14th because that's when the console beta releases
Surprisingly, they buffed them so much, yet it's still not surprising that they don't have the replay system yet.
Thankyou Kanga for literally showing us the differences of the changes, u did a great job explaining to us.
did they finally add a "you're welcome" voiceline ??
Has anything changed about haven?
Hey Kanga, Which software do you use to edit your videos?
Premiere Pro
@@KangaValorant Okay thanks man
New map got way too many hiding and falling spots 😢
get good tbh
@@illuminoeye_gaming bro i am ascendant 3
@@akshatjain4990only ? Amateur I’m silver 1
@@akshatjain4990 get better tbh i made it to plastic 2
@@akshatjain4990 then use that skill
how much more time for update???
any time from now to 1pm east
@@affectedpoet9762 why no update?
kinda hate what they did with the wheels, i keep pinging the wrong lines off muscle memory
Damn Neon eating GOOD on these patch notes, and now Reyna of all agents can dash jump IM INSTALLING THE GAME RIGHT NOW
LMAO
When is the approximate release of the update?
ok.. where is the replay system?
it's being worked on
Is agent banning still not viable for the game rn? Like i love the buffs but sometimes the nerfs are kind of a cheap way to make players change strats and comps especially if ur only doing it mostly for the sake of character variety in pro play
that Iso buff is insane, basically not 1 hit headshot kill. When valorant was released they promised every character will be 1 hit headshot kill but seems like it is not anymore
they need to give astra her fifth star back
I think Yoru's ult is now completely undetectable, when I had a Yoru against me and used his ult, I couldn't see the blue screen thing that shows up if he's near to you
my valorant says "couldn't update" and I cant access the site, are the servers down?
This makes Reyna and Iso to be used more usefully and passively
while encouraging clove to be more aggressive.
Plus 50 meters is kind of too big (for mid ranks where people dont react to sound queues more often) its gonna result in iso being an unstoppable lurking force with 150 + infinte hp
The new Reyna gonna be crazy in high elo. The dismiss movement speed change is huge. She is gonna be moving from corner to corner really fast, making repositioning much easier for her.
smoother buy menu=more lag
bro what about Haven? is it coming back without any changes??
Yeah it's back with no changes
@@KangaValorant why did they remove it then damn😭😭
@@KangaValorant they took my fave map for nothing 😭😭
@@srujanborkar1680i have nightmares of ascent removal
Ranked is now cooked with the Reyna buffs
I just noticed, do you have a lisp?
Don’t know how I feel about the Reyna change
what was the point in shortening reynas dismiss duration dude
Neon: 🐬🐬🐬
Reyna dismiss is just to map like haven , sunset , bind and like in all the map which has large choke points 💀
I love these chaneges! Mostly that you can play every map in unrated now but the agent changes are also very interesting.
I love the new radio wheel, but I want the radio menu to get the same updates. I really want to say the new voice lines but they simply aren't available on there, and I don't like to use the radio wheel at all.
the radio wheel is destroyed now ngl i mean why is sanks downscroll and then down???
Finally more communication options to not be forced into talking even if you are mute-
bro they nailed this update, feels like they have only made good changes and finaly listen about the map pool.
When will the changes be live?
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@@Fantasyia Asia?
@@sabharishrinivas4895 probably early June 12
We gonna defo is alot of neon plays in Abyss and heaven, atleast in pro, this may also mean a return of the Breach neon comp with gekko as more modern twisr
Wait so as a neon main does that mean we can triple slide out of spawn now
THERE OUT OR IS IT TESTING ? Servers
I'm just glad now that if I do 100 damage and die to reyna, I can say "reyna 50"
What did they even change about haven ? Did they just remove it and put it back or what ?
so haven has not changed at all?
how did you get the masters buddy
Removing accuracy error while sliding is absolutely ridiculous.
Agreed. Being able to shoot while sliding should only work with shotguns.
@@edriespinoza6361 dw they will nerf it if it gets too overpowered. They did the same with Yoru
@@FelixAcadia I hope so.
When is this update launching???
Is there any change in haven map?
nope.where u expecting anything?
when are we getting the update though?
Is this update live?
what map is at 2:35 i have ever seen it
it’s the new map abyss
Nah the subtle change in the buy UI is so clean
So I’m playing the closed beta on console atm and I fell like I’m missing something or it’s bugged because when I slide on neon rather than her gun immediately readying I just get the equip animation and aren’t able to shoot during my slide
Apparently that's a bug specific to console Neon and should be fixed by Patch 9.01
I love the new updates, except neon is slightly overkill now 😅
will haven and abyss be for champs??
Yeah seems like it
my game is still on the previous patch lol. you sure it's out yet?
I like how with Clove they took their worst ability and made it even worse. When watching someone play them I feel like I rarely see them take advantage of Pick Me Up.
I mean rest of her kit is fine tho?
@@sharequsman596 oh yeah it is fine for sure. Just interesting to take her weakest ability and make it weaker.
Love to see the buffs! From a throw pick now to decent picks!
wym slowed less on 0:38 it's slowed more cuz iso touches the wall later than the one before the update
Nah I just mucked up and used a classic on the left clip and vandal on the right clip (classic has faster move speed)
@@KangaValorant didnt know that mb
what time is patch 8.11 coming to the public? GMT +8 is my time
No haven changes??
When will it come in EU server?
what time is it supposed to be out?
North America: June 11, 6:00 AM PT - 10:00 AM PT
LATAM: June 11, 6:00 AM PT - 10:00 AM PT
Brazil: June 11, 6:00 AM PT - 10:00 AM PT
Europe: June 12, 4:00 AM BST - 8:00 AM BST
why cant i see or download 8.11
The only thing i dislike about this patch is the raze satchel nerfs. Movement it almost is completely useless to attenpt to satchel now, its way to slow and it will be much easier to shoot a raze satcheling.
i am so confused why they’d make her slide fully accurate
When it will release in india 😢 I am so exited for it
bro removing movement error off neon slide is actually way too broken shes already damn near impossible to hit moving that fast
great vid, thanks for explaining everything
The Neon inaccuracy buff while sprinting is outrageous. What were Riot thinking?
Iso just break the game.
what are they casting Neon for Arcane s2?
why isnt update out in EU yet?
no idea
North America: June 11, 6:00 AM PT - 10:00 AM PT
LATAM: June 11, 6:00 AM PT - 10:00 AM PT
Brazil: June 11, 6:00 AM PT - 10:00 AM PT
Europe: June 12, 4:00 AM BST - 8:00 AM BST
So.... Will Fracture and Pearl be available in Unrated or no?
Yes
The video I was waiting for. Is the update live now?
For Americas yes, Asia is still ~8 hours away and Europe another ~8 hours after that
@@KangaValorant15 seconds ago is crazy
Is using true stretched bannable
Most of these changes are “Hm sounds fair” and then the few are like “what the actual fuque????!?!???”
They are making it into less of a hero game and more of a shooting game.
any changes to haven map?
actually for deathmatch, i'd rather them only stick to the competitive map pool - it's just better for muscle memory and warming up
Yeah Deathmatch and Competitive will continue to share the same map pool
2:12 wtf seriously!? its like killing someone mid-dash
why is ASCENT STILL IN THE MAP POOL 😭😭😭😭
Is it alr out???
As a new player I just bought both Raze and Clove with kingdom credits(I missed her free unlock with xp) and now they’re both nerfed 😢
Somebody please explain the remake change?